Do you think I missed something? I was close to adding NAMMO's production of artillery shells here too, but I'll likely cover it in my Norwegian episode as the company produces in both nations. I'd be honoured if you subscribed, and the best way to support me is to give the video a thumbs up! Stay safe folks, and happy summer holidays - hope it's mosquito-free for you Finns (I always get eaten alive!)
Nammo was a merger, that later also bought up some Swedish plants. Makes me kind of happy to see, Nordic countries shouldn't be competing but complementing each other to get the muscles for the international market. I do prefer the BAE way though, keeping the original name like Bofors with the BAE Systems attached to it.
Sidenote could be Patrias co-operation with Lockheed Martin and Pratt&Whitney when Finland starts to build total of 400 F-35 frames to international market and also engine assembly, as part of our HX-project. Also other maintenance, service and assembly projects are included for international F-35 market. Latest purely finnish project is Laykka AMPGV robot/land drone. Patria also just bought Nordic Drones Oy:n, to improve Patria Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS) -project. Land mine replacement "Jump mine" is on its test phase and going trough all the safety bureaucracy. Quite busy days actually in Finnish defence market, from latest startups to old companies.
I remember when i got my RK 62 service rifle. It was well maintained even tho it was old. (Dated 1973) Serial number 313757. When i took to the range and fired first 5 rounds from 150m i scored 88 out of 100. It was sighted even after being in storage.
Yes, there’s a reason why most mercenaries want the RK over the AK, you can essentially drag it through sand and all it needs is a dusting off and it’ll behave like normal. A great rifle.
Thanks for another great video about the Nordic defence capabilitys. The Finns got some really great weapons tecnology, i really like the amos system and the sako rifles. We choose the sako for our new infantery weapon i am not sure if it was 7/62 or 5/56 yet but its great assault rifles.
As far as i know the only thing that is certain is that it will use sako m23 platform. Caliber of r62/95 replacement hasnt been finalized yet atleast.@@peigeot9906
@@hansericsson7058 if you are refering to the new Swedish infantry weapons, it's both 5.56×45mm and 7.62×51mm with two different barrel lengths of the 5.56.
You should add the sako M23 family of rifles that are about to replace all rifles of both sweden and finland. So we will get to see what sako does with a ar 15 platform :)
@@johanmetreus1268 you might be right. info is really nifty on it still. Im getting my hands on the M23 reservist version in august. its semi auto but otherwise that same gun in 556
Probably smart booby traps were not included that jump above adversaries, launching cone of steel balls under them, or programmable anti armor mines that allow friendly forces to drive over them (IFF) and without IFF they say boom.
If Finland would use submarines, I think we could have good know how. The Mir 1 and 2 deep dive subs from the 80s were built in Finland. Ice breakers are nowadays among best in the world. Also fast patrol vessels are similar than Sweden have.
Person in 9.09 is not Häyhä. He is unkown swedish volunteer and he is using swedish mauser. Häyhä did not use bayonet and none of the finnish soldiers never used that winter mask.
Finland is slowly moving away from RK 62 and RK 95 TP rifles since they are chambered in 7.62x39 mm which isn't really in use in NATO, though the transition is going to be slow as USA is doing it's own experiments with calibers the Finnish army has decided not to rush the change but to see where things are going first
Finland ordered next generation assualt rifles from the Sako. Sako and FDS are currently finishing their field testing of several variations of different barrel lenghts (11.5", 14.5" and 16") of Sako 7,62х51 mm based on AR10 and Sako 5,56×45 mm based on AR15 to see which model will be next main infantry weapon. The Swedish Defence Materiel Administration has ordered 11.5" barrel variant of Sako 5,56×45 mm with 78 million euros worth.
By the way, name SAKO is shortened from "Suojeluskuntain Ase- ja Konepaja" (Finnish White Guards weapon- and machinery works). Those Guards were forbidden after WW2 but a bit surprisingly SAKO got to keep it's name.
Pretty sure NEMO is one tube version of AMOS not the other way arround. Finland uses AMOS on Patria AMV. Their conscript training started in my regiment during my conscript service. Had one parked on the backyard of the barracks a couple of times.
The RK62 is so robust that one evening after a 2 day march in winter I had rust in the barrell, in the morning the rust had cleaned itself up. No complaints on my gun from the instructors in our discharge check
Sounds pretty much right, except pronouncing impossible language. Only simple help I could offer is try replacing "j" in "Pohjanmaa" with "y" (like in "yes" or "you"). Pretty damn good overall. Of course this is about technology, but one should never forget the numbers, which you touched close to the end with "sisu". Thumbs up. The only threat we've faced didn't got balls before and now we're in Nato... Meteor strike is more likely to wipe us out and even still we're ready, or more ready than ever.
The Finnish armaments industry produces advanced and very good quality products (we can't afford to just shove out cheap and cheerful rubbish). But robust, that's another question. In peacetime we do just fine, but in an all out war the production capability would be soon be too little even for our own needs. Of course production can in an emergency be ramped up and NATO allies' gear would be available to us in short order.
These systems were great back in the day, but Finland have long since moved ahead, as my friend @rasehorn says. Remotely controlled containerised systems is the future.
@@MilitaryRated It might be the future but the company support weapons such as 81mm mortars and heavy 120mm mortars are still very much the back bone of infantry support. Each Finnish infantry company has mortar platoon 2-3 81mm tubes to organically support the company. Mortar companies (120mm) are the next level of support and then artillery. It is foolish to say they are not part of the future as you can't just replace 1000s mortars in storage with trucks(apc, what ever the Amos/nemo is mounted on) that require more logistics to support them. The NEMO and AMOS are and will definitely be used by the operative forces (Finnish mechanized infantry and armor units), but not every unit it the war time strength. The Finnish army is 280 000 men when mobilized, if you say 100 000 of these are combat units (as an example) that is enough men for 333 infantry companies, that means 1000 81mm mortars are needed for them. This also would roughly mean with that amount of companies that around 83 battalion / battlegroup formations would be formed which has the mortar company (120mm). I can't remember the amount of tubes in those companies but is is between 6-12 which at 6 would mean 500 tubes. It is not about the ease of replacing either, the strain it would put on the planned logistics chains would be too much. So in the future yes, but the regular mortars will stay at least for decades. And 120mm has gotten good feedback from Ukraine. (public information and educated guessing and estimation used)
While sisu as a word doesn't have a perfect or direct counterpart in other languages, I have to admit that I am getting second hand embarassment over the glorification of the word. In some circles it maybe is perceived as having a higher symbolic meaning, and those demographics seem to overlap a lot with military enthusiasts, but I don't really see the need to mention it so prominently on all sorts of Finland related videos.
@@henriikkak2091 if Finland is fighting an opponent with 25 times their population (Russia), we could assume that Finland is poor compared to their opponent (Russia), and therefore, we could say, that Finland is too poor to waste their money on low quality.
Do you think I missed something? I was close to adding NAMMO's production of artillery shells here too, but I'll likely cover it in my Norwegian episode as the company produces in both nations. I'd be honoured if you subscribed, and the best way to support me is to give the video a thumbs up! Stay safe folks, and happy summer holidays - hope it's mosquito-free for you Finns (I always get eaten alive!)
Nammo was a merger, that later also bought up some Swedish plants. Makes me kind of happy to see, Nordic countries shouldn't be competing but complementing each other to get the muscles for the international market.
I do prefer the BAE way though, keeping the original name like Bofors with the BAE Systems attached to it.
Sidenote could be Patrias co-operation with Lockheed Martin and Pratt&Whitney when Finland starts to build total of 400 F-35 frames to international market and also engine assembly, as part of our HX-project. Also other maintenance, service and assembly projects are included for international F-35 market. Latest purely finnish project is Laykka AMPGV robot/land drone. Patria also just bought Nordic Drones Oy:n, to improve Patria Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS) -project. Land mine replacement "Jump mine" is on its test phase and going trough all the safety bureaucracy. Quite busy days actually in Finnish defence market, from latest startups to old companies.
A shoutout to my brothers in arms in the Finnish army. You know who you are, and you'll always have my back as I have yours.
Thanks, right back at you. That's what allies are for, right..?
Two decades of service in the FDF talking here.
Thanks for your service, brother!
Thank You for an interesting video, from Sweden i am very happy that both we and our brothers and sisters in Finland could join the NATO!
We're all happy you joined. :)
You got your list right. 😊
Thank you!
I remember when i got my RK 62 service rifle. It was well maintained even tho it was old. (Dated 1973) Serial number 313757. When i took to the range and fired first 5 rounds from 150m i scored 88 out of 100. It was sighted even after being in storage.
Yes, there’s a reason why most mercenaries want the RK over the AK, you can essentially drag it through sand and all it needs is a dusting off and it’ll behave like normal. A great rifle.
Thanks for another great video about the Nordic defence capabilitys. The Finns got some really great weapons tecnology, i really like the amos system and the sako rifles. We choose the sako for our new infantery weapon i am not sure if it was 7/62 or 5/56 yet but its great assault rifles.
Thanks Hans, Yes Finland does have some extremely good rifles. Have a good (hot!) day!
@@MilitaryRated It sure is hot today, 28 celcius The same to you.
Did Finland decide that it'll be SAKO rifle or are they at the moment only ones who have submitted anything for trials?
As far as i know the only thing that is certain is that it will use sako m23 platform. Caliber of r62/95 replacement hasnt been finalized yet atleast.@@peigeot9906
@@hansericsson7058 if you are refering to the new Swedish infantry weapons, it's both 5.56×45mm and 7.62×51mm with two different barrel lengths of the 5.56.
You should add the sako M23 family of rifles that are about to replace all rifles of both sweden and finland. So we will get to see what sako does with a ar 15 platform :)
Agreed, I just don’t have much experience with it yet, looking forward to my next show and tell in either country 👍
Not AR-15, as it is a short stroke piston....supposedly. Heck knows who made the press releases.
@@johanmetreus1268 you might be right. info is really nifty on it still. Im getting my hands on the M23 reservist version in august. its semi auto but otherwise that same gun in 556
@@janizzkar When you do, please be back with a review!
Probably smart booby traps were not included that jump above adversaries, launching cone of steel balls under them, or programmable anti armor mines that allow friendly forces to drive over them (IFF) and without IFF they say boom.
Shhh; secret technology...
Your list is right.
You forgot Salmiakki, Koskenkorva and Perkele also Sauna. :D
Fond memories!
If Finland would use submarines, I think we could have good know how. The Mir 1 and 2 deep dive subs from the 80s were built in Finland. Ice breakers are nowadays among best in the world. Also fast patrol vessels are similar than Sweden have.
Person in 9.09 is not Häyhä. He is unkown swedish volunteer and he is using swedish mauser. Häyhä did not use bayonet and none of the finnish soldiers never used that winter mask.
I felt that this what professionally made and very educational! subscribe from now on! 😁👌
Thank you!
Finland is slowly moving away from RK 62 and RK 95 TP rifles since they are chambered in 7.62x39 mm which isn't really in use in NATO, though the transition is going to be slow as USA is doing it's own experiments with calibers the Finnish army has decided not to rush the change but to see where things are going first
Still excellent rifles though!
Finnish rifles have better penetration than NATO rifle.
Finland ordered next generation assualt rifles from the Sako. Sako and FDS are currently finishing their field testing of several variations of different barrel lenghts (11.5", 14.5" and 16") of Sako 7,62х51 mm based on AR10 and Sako 5,56×45 mm based on AR15 to see which model will be next main infantry weapon. The Swedish Defence Materiel Administration has ordered 11.5" barrel variant of Sako 5,56×45 mm with 78 million euros worth.
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Hello, drone balcony on one joystic, working perfectly. Mir1 and Mir2 maded Finland
By the way, name SAKO is shortened from "Suojeluskuntain Ase- ja Konepaja" (Finnish White Guards weapon- and machinery works). Those Guards were forbidden after WW2 but a bit surprisingly SAKO got to keep it's name.
The red ones had a point. But im glad whites won. My suku was white. But im not 100% proud of it.
You missed the skiis developed by Karhu.
Aye, everything you said before the fightning spirit is surely impressive...
But The SISU! is not something you mess around with.
Pretty sure NEMO is one tube version of AMOS not the other way arround. Finland uses AMOS on Patria AMV. Their conscript training started in my regiment during my conscript service. Had one parked on the backyard of the barracks a couple of times.
YEEEEAS! My salmiakki koskenkorva has been in the freezer for two days now and it, just like i am, ready for this video. Lets gooooo!
Enjoy! 🍺
Iceye granted acces to its satellite for Ukraine.
Yep, by all accounts a great company.
The RK62 is so robust that one evening after a 2 day march in winter I had rust in the barrell, in the morning the rust had cleaned itself up. No complaints on my gun from the instructors in our discharge check
You forgot, m1,m2,m3 variant of RK-62. So here is a demonstration of M2 variant: th-cam.com/video/DwuvNS-eZ9U/w-d-xo.html
Engine and gearbox for SISU e13 TPa? Have CV90 and PATRIA AMV the same engine and ZF gearbox?
Sounds pretty much right, except pronouncing impossible language. Only simple help I could offer is try replacing "j" in "Pohjanmaa" with "y" (like in "yes" or "you"). Pretty damn good overall. Of course this is about technology, but one should never forget the numbers, which you touched close to the end with "sisu". Thumbs up. The only threat we've faced didn't got balls before and now we're in Nato... Meteor strike is more likely to wipe us out and even still we're ready, or more ready than ever.
Thanks for the feedback, the language is just so darn hard! 👍
@@MilitaryRated I've heard that couple of times, so I kind of believe it. Overall, pretty damn good, as said, impressive even.
@@MilitaryRated finsk 'u' = o, 'o' = å, dobbel konsonant uttalas som sammansatt ord.
The Finnish armaments industry produces advanced and very good quality products (we can't afford to just shove out cheap and cheerful rubbish). But robust, that's another question. In peacetime we do just fine, but in an all out war the production capability would be soon be too little even for our own needs. Of course production can in an emergency be ramped up and NATO allies' gear would be available to us in short order.
Tampella 120 mm and 81 mm mortars.
Tampella doesn't exist anymore and those are phased out anyway. Moving towards Remotely controlled NEMO and AMOS for indirect squad support fire.
These systems were great back in the day, but Finland have long since moved ahead, as my friend @rasehorn says. Remotely controlled containerised systems is the future.
@@MilitaryRated It might be the future but the company support weapons such as 81mm mortars and heavy 120mm mortars are still very much the back bone of infantry support. Each Finnish infantry company has mortar platoon 2-3 81mm tubes to organically support the company. Mortar companies (120mm) are the next level of support and then artillery. It is foolish to say they are not part of the future as you can't just replace 1000s mortars in storage with trucks(apc, what ever the Amos/nemo is mounted on) that require more logistics to support them.
The NEMO and AMOS are and will definitely be used by the operative forces (Finnish mechanized infantry and armor units), but not every unit it the war time strength. The Finnish army is 280 000 men when mobilized, if you say 100 000 of these are combat units (as an example) that is enough men for 333 infantry companies, that means 1000 81mm mortars are needed for them. This also would roughly mean with that amount of companies that around 83 battalion / battlegroup formations would be formed which has the mortar company (120mm). I can't remember the amount of tubes in those companies but is is between 6-12 which at 6 would mean 500 tubes.
It is not about the ease of replacing either, the strain it would put on the planned logistics chains would be too much. So in the future yes, but the regular mortars will stay at least for decades. And 120mm has gotten good feedback from Ukraine.
(public information and educated guessing and estimation used)
I suppose you couldn't speak much about Insta
While sisu as a word doesn't have a perfect or direct counterpart in other languages, I have to admit that I am getting second hand embarassment over the glorification of the word. In some circles it maybe is perceived as having a higher symbolic meaning, and those demographics seem to overlap a lot with military enthusiasts, but I don't really see the need to mention it so prominently on all sorts of Finland related videos.
Same. Feels more like meme word now.
@@itsVilu still beats 'kalsarikännit' ;)
TORILLE!
Patria, Sako, Lapua, Sisu, Terva, Viina, Koskenkorva, Sauna, Mämmi, Sahti, Klimppisoppa, Mustamakkara, Valmet, Nokia, Salora, Parkano, Töysä, Jurva, Ähtäri, Vihta, Talkkuna, Ruikkutauti, Ripuli, Näkkileipä, Rössypottu, Kilju, Pontikka...
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@@SuperKamaki Klimppisoppa :D
@@EskoTeroPetteri Äetsä, Kälviä, Köyliö, Äitienpäivä, Ääliö älä lyö ööliä läikkyy, Kyykkypaska, Rouskun ryöppäys, Kääpä, Ryyppäys...
As the saying goes - if you're poor, you can't afford low quality.
Who are you talking about? The Russians?
@@henriikkak2091 if Finland is fighting an opponent with 25 times their population (Russia), we could assume that Finland is poor compared to their opponent (Russia), and therefore, we could say, that Finland is too poor to waste their money on low quality.
Couple things you forgot add.. Like where we get money
Meaning those multofunction drone machine