You know I work in a foundry. Across the four shifts and well over a hundred people on the shop floor involved in production there is only one female. It's definitely cultural because when a job vacancy arises it's as open to a female as it is a male and it isn't a job that a female cannot do although it's heavy work. No females apply. They just don't seem to want that kind of work but in other countries they do. Putting aside career women we seem to be a nation of dog walkers and nail technicians in the UK. Having said that I don't think that the Soviet model where there were large teams of females doing hard physical graft was good for women, men or society.
I think that the thing I was trying to get across in the video is that we were both brought up in Britain, and Britain has a very definite culture, which seems to affect the type of expectations & decisions that men and women make. To be honest, your experiences from the foundry, Lee, don't surprise me at all - it's definitely a thing
I think the pigeon holing and social class system in Britain is suffocating and depressing. I have found each time I go back that it is more and more obvious. The people are depressed. They feel there's no future. I recognised in the 1980's when I left school that I wanted something different out of life so flew. There are problems and hurdles wherever you go in life but the constant put downs and you can't do that drove me nuts. I was always the square peg in the round hole and refused to conform.
I think of how absolutely horrified the Muslim immigrants would have been seeing topless women in the tabloids and drunken half-clad females out “on the razz” in our high streets at the weekend. No wonder they don’t want to mix and strive to keep themselves separate. Our culture has become so very degraded.
USA pushed women into workplace in the 1920's. Idea was to double the 'tax base'. Another objective was to have more government control over the education of children.
@@cropduster8798 True, there are many depressed here in the UK, but not us. My husband of 58 years is nearly 80 and suffers multiple health issues, but we are positive people head on in life tackling major projects and enjoying our hillside garden. He is all I have left, all I have shared since I was 14 years old, and we are not dwelling on the cloudy parts of life, but using every moment to the best encouraging young locals who are building their own homes the way we did.
I'm Finnish but used to live in Northern Ireland in the late 80s and early 90s. I remember once mentioning at a ladies' coffee meeting that I had had some problems with my power drill. All women looked at me and asked WHAT I had needed a power drill for, couldn't my husband do that job 😂!
My mother's air conditioner broke. Two women in work clothes came to fix it and they were still feminine and very efficient. 12 points 10, easily. Greetings, 58-year-old man from Finland
I'm a Finnish guy who's lived in the UK for 16 years, and I agree with all your observations. My biggest culture shock here has been the class system and how important "status" is for people. Having grown up in Finland it's really hard to wrap my head around all the intricacies of a class system, but here it's so ingrained into the culture.
Less so in the countryside, but it's true that my late cousins were sent for elocution lessons to rid himself of any hint of Suffolk dialect. Newcomers to Suffolk have objected to locals 'lowering the tone of the area' but thankfully Suffolk and especially Norfolk Councils recognise the need to keep our old country ways alive on their websites as part of our history. We both speak it over breakfast because we have moved away and like to feel at home!😄
My daughter loves cute 'girly' things and she hopes to become a builder one day. I'm all for it! Bring back woodwork and metal work back in the schools too!
We had both woodwork and textile work in school for one year and then chose one or other for the next two. Like we made wooden forks and aprons -- before they started cooking lessons. Life skills you know.
I see quite a lot of young women doing manual jobs in the UK, some of them very attractive. That aside, it is quite obvious that Finnish society is much healthier and more rational than British society.
There is no British society, that would imply that most of us can be called British, but that's not the case! The people who have chosen to exploit predominantly England can't be called British, which is a very loose term, there's even a politician whose mother came here to give birth and then went immediately back home, this politician has spent most of her life in her mother country and America, but she's allowed to call herself British, what a joke, and she is probably one of millions.
I live in a farming area in the UK, women here fearlessly drive machinery and quads, and continue to run farms and smallholdings after becoming widowed. A few youngsters are attending agricultural college, but many aspire to higher paid work in computing or law.
@@jennywren8937 I wouldn't dispute that Jenny, however the natural desire for women to want children will mean this is only a temporary thing. As you say, there are far easier ways for a lady to make a living, thanks.
@@andrewlilley3660 Temporary? They are all past child bearing age! That's why farms are going on the market, better paying work for youngsters elsewhere.
I worked for an Architect in Forssa and she only employed Women and older men like me. The painters and carpenters were as good as I've ever seen. Yes it was a culture shock but a very rewarding one. We as a group always enjoyed a drink together on a Friday and I was usually the butt of the jokes and I accepted that as a male and earned their respect.
I'm a Finnish guy and I really appreciate Finnish women for the reasons you've mentioned, especially the mentality of not caring too much about appearing (overly) feminine. I am much more attracted to more natural look.
Hear hear! I'm finnish. Lately I have been awakening to realize that there is no better woman than Finnish woman. If I could live thousands of lives I wouldn't choose any other than my kind. My dear finnish woman. You are in the fact the sexiest, the most beautiful, capable and smartest females I could ever want. I'm married one and I don't have thousands of lives but if I had I would marry almost all of you precious ones
@@KveeniSuomalaiset naiset ovat enimmäkseen läskejä feministilehmiä tatuointeineen ja kissoineen, mielenterveyshäiriöisiä lesboja. Käy päiväkin thaimaassa tai muualla South-East Asiassa niin tajuat millaisia maatiaislehmiä suomalaiset ämmät on. 🙂👍
Finnish women showed what hey was all about already back in the winter war. They showed that we men could ABSOLUTELY count on our women in every occasion there is...even in war time and battlefields.. 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
My dad was a perfectionist.. pattern maker by trade. He taught us all (4 children) how to do stuff in the house.. decorating repairs ..garden work all sorts.. iv renovated 2 houses transformed a few gardens..l love it..l live in Turkey now..l live in an apartment ground floor..2 years ago l painted the outside of my apartment. Up the ladder, no problem.The Turkish women were shocked 😮.. My daughter, who speaks fluent Turkey, said she could hear a few neighbour having a go at their husbands for not doing their paint work, lol 😂
Hi! Swedish woman here. I have the impression that we are much more handy in the north in general. I think if you take 50 random Nordic women, gen x or older and 50 random English men (who don't work in the construction sector) to compete in driving a nail, I'd put my money on the Nordic women. In my 20s, I spent a whole summer in Surrey cutting up and burning down an entire birch that an Englishman wanted to get rid of. He had tried himself before I got there, but couldn't get a fire going. When the neighbors came by and asked what was going on, he told them: - This is a Swedish fire - What is Swedish about it, the neighbors asked - It burnes Finally I asked if I wasn't going to let his rotten shed that had collapsed go the same way? Then he said "no, because the prices of timber are so high in England that it has value". It was one of those cheap sheds built out of thin pieces of some fast growing Asian wood that had no value when new, and I had just burned down a whole fresh birch tree!!
You come up with the most interesting topics! Love your channel. My Daddy brought this little girl up doing anything and everything she had a mind to, with the admonition, "You can do anything you want to do." So, I trained my own horses, became a born again Christian, ran several businesses including a custom slaughter/locker plant and a weekly newspaper. Now retired living on the road 17 years as a fulltime Nomad without hindrance of the nervous Nellie fearful inner whinings of so many citified, dependent, professionally helpless females like, aren't you afraid!!!??? No, I'm not. And that translated over my 70 yr so far lifetime into going at it challenging the establishment cabal and beating them because we refused to knuckle under and be quiet. We helped defeat their attempt to license all Private, Home, and Christian schools in Nebraska back in 1983. Boy did they come roaring into town to take us down after that! But it was worth it just to beat them. Later I got smart, quit feeding the beast and enjoyably hit the road with no plans but to continue living and traveling and speaking up for God's glory.
Since I woke up to reality and more especially at the onset of the BS, I so wished that I had qualified in something more practical, like my old dad who was an electrician. I trained as a massage therapist, but having the ability to wire a house, mend a car, erect a fence, build a house, etc, etc, is way more practical and 'clever' in my eyes. However, as I'm a woman of a similar age to you Nigel, with all those mobility issues and aching limbs you talk about (affecting me for a number of years now), I could definitely do with a good massage therapist in-house to have my issues tended to exactly when I need it. So my kind are not without their uses I guess...
There's a vocational track in the Finnish education system. Arts and crafts, for instance, remain popular career choices. You don't have to go to university to become a respected professional in your craft. Parents of academically gifted students sure hope that their children will go to university but they aren't going to force them. Their expectations in that sense are lower. They want their children to be happy above everything else, and if painting or welding is what makes their offspring happy, so be it. I, for one, had full freedom making my own career choices. It just so happened that I went from having a vocational qualification to having a Master's degree in technology. That's another thing that Finland has: Relatively high social mobility.
I am of Nordic descent! I am a woman who enjoys physical labor like mowing and working on things around the house. All my neighbors are so worried about me doing manual labor. They just think its so strange. My husband works all day and commutes and it just makes sense for me to get the chores done. Other women say things like, there is no way Im going to do yard work, etc., yet they go to the gym and workout. Im getting a workout in the great outdoors. Maybe this is why Im wired like this. Im from hearty stock😂!
Our women are pretty tough, but so are ladies around the world. I love that it's acceptable here for women to do what they want to. 😊 We literally have no concept of bringing up our daughters any different from ours sons- certain tasks need to be learned, male or female.
@@nigelwatson2750 It's a shame. I'm sure British ladies are quite capable, seeing their actions during the war (even Her Majesty herself!). But yeah upbringing plays a big part in this, and we too have helpless kids who cannot even boil water. 😅
@@nigelwatson2750 No we weren't Nigel. Born in the 40s our childhood consisted of an expectation that we would all do our share. At six years old I would be given a wood chopper and told to fetch faggots for the fire. I still enjoy all my old fashioned ways. Treats during the 50s were few and far between, and we had to earn them. Everything we wore had to be serviceable like liberty bodices and lace up shoes.
You did not have enough work to be done - lol. Maybe you should start needing new and different color from different painters on each side of the house.
I spoke to a Spanish girl at college 20 years ago and she said that the British are obsessed with pubs and their life revolves around pub life and that British people have just one main focus of interest, and I was more .. I think it was European because I had diverse interests.
Women still come up against opposition to doing "men's" work in UK, only recently accepted driving HGV's. Women did all these jobs during the war but the government and society very quickly brushed those times under the carpet. Office jobs that previously carried respect and a good wage became womens jobs and lowered paid 🤷
Ironically one of the biggest drivers of this post war regression were the unions. These so called progressive organisations wanted to keep their closed shop. The Lost Victory by Corelli Barnett is a good read on this subject
One of the biggest drivers of the post war regression you mention were the unions. The so called progressive movements wanted to keep their closed shop so they were happy to put things back to pre war conditions. Corelli Barnetts book The Lost Victory deals with this.
Ironically one of the biggest contributors to the post war regression were the unions. These so called progressive organisations wanted to keep their closed shop and made sure things went back to the pre war working conditions. In his great book The Lost Victory, Corelli Barnett touches on this.
Great video as a FINNISH WOMAN I DO EVERY JOB MEN CAN TOO I GREW WITH ME FATHERS QUIDANDE WITH EVERY JOB HE DID IN HOUSE AND REPAIRING LIKE LOTS OF OUR WOMEN IN YEARS SURELY TILL DECADE 80'S ZO WE ARE UP TO EVERYTHING LIKE OPENING SUFFED KITCHEN PIPE LAMPS CHANGING ON THE CEILING SCREWDRIVER WORKS PUTTING HOLES ON THE WALLS FOR OUR PAINTINGS AND SILICICONE KITTING WORKS AND ZO ON ...THANKS TO OUR FATHERS AND MOM'S WHO WERE US😊 INCOURAGING HERE WHEN DONE THE JOB PRAISING US TOO.. GREAT PARENTHOOD...NO DOOR OPENING OF PRINCESS LIKE TREATMENTS TO ME WE ARE EGUAL WITH MEN HERE 😂❤AND LIKE IT
It's amazing how you said people who come from other countries don't only bring g their bodies but also their minds and cultures. That's exactly the problem we are suffering from in relation to our new residents coming to our Western countries from you know where, it won't work out at all.
My dad is a contractor and I help him sometimes on small jobs ..the builders are always asking me what I'm doing on a building site lol I laugh and say " I'm helping my dad on the job " keep in mind my dad always checks my work he doesn't usually let me use nail guns or a miter saw but I can paint , plaster , fix or build cabinets , put in door knobs and locks , carry doors ( If they're hollow ) and distrubute materials 🙂 I would never start a company myself but I can't help but critiquing other carpenters' workmanship
@@pureblood8307 What did the British captain, sailing Shakespeare to Denmark, say when his ship encountered a severe emergency, sighting Denmark but far from his final destination? To beach or not to beach! That are the question!
I lived in Germany back in the seventies, one day when travelling by tram three attractive young women boarded. They all wore the same dungaree type overalls and were splattered by paint streaks. I remember thinking they had obviously just finished a hard days work and i was trying to remember if I had ever seen a British female doing a similar traditional male job.
@nigelwatson2750 Never learn.. 40m doses are being brought by the EU..They are coming for my chickens..cats also have to be chipped now in UK, so them next..masks and goggles next...
I believe ALL chickens will have to be registered in the UK, even where there is just one on the premises. Meanwhile we are so pleased to have an increase in nesting swallows this year.
Thank you, that was an interesting topic. I am a Finnish woman who has worked in England for six months and I am married to Indonesian and have lived in Indonesia too. I think in England, the family that I worked for was used to hard working women (I worked as an au pair) but when I have been in Indonesia, many people are looking me weird when I painted walls, tried to start a basket business and a photography business. Vlogging and going around the town by myself of with 2 kids. Everyone always asked me do I know how to cook. And when I told that in Finland we have to do everything by ourselves - thus we know how to do many things, they are just amazed. We have less people so everyone has to learn to be independent 🙂
English here, never went to Uni, married at 18, buying first house in my 20s. Despite health problems obtained fair jobs, sold everything to buy a field, lived without services, started successful businesses, worked 18 hour days, 7 days a week, nursed all family members and together we built a house which took us twenty years. Never had a passport or iPhone, never watch tv, 77 now and still doing manual. 5ft high, 8stone, same as when I was 20😊 Still looking feminine.
I worked in construction in many countries. Just to give you an example: when I worked on a large infrastructure project in the UK, there were Women on the same job as me. I worked down a trench and out in the Scottish winter, the women chose jobs where they could sit in a warm dump truck all day. That's their choice, but there is no way they should earn the same money as a person who risks injury or life and has to do a much harder job.
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Just realized i needed some painting work done myself too
In Finnish schools they also encourage individual talents and interests, because we feel like a motivated individual will do better in both their studies and when entering the their future career. This is also made easier with the lack of standardized testing, because it doesn't push parents and schools to focus purely on academics. We teach art and practical skills in out schools and if someone is talented, motivated and seems to thrive in those subjects we try to build that up. I also think that's why Finland, despite being such a small country has so many talented artists and athletes for our population size. Maybe that's part of our happiness factor here, freedom to choose and follow our passions, with our friends, family and teachers cheering us on.
Compared to England, Finland is an infinitely free country to live in terms of mindless rules & order following. Finns live their lives and have less social pressure to conform. I love living here, and I think Finns are the best!
This was very interesting observation! I’m a Finnish woman with three sisters, and our dad (and mom) always has told us we can become whatever we want to be and that we are capable and strong. He has tought us to change car tires etc, everything he has tought to our brother as well. Our parents brought us up in similar way and into similar expectations. I think it has had a humongous effect on us! I never had to concider my gender while choosing occupation or hobbies. In addition my husband has very similar mindset. His masculinity is in no way threatened by me renovating our house or equally contributing into our finances.
I am a female Finn and lived in London in the 70' and 80's. I am now in my mid 50's and 100% agree. My Finnish mum showed by example in UK what a tough woman she is. It is a genes thing as I follow her example.
I don't disagree with anything you've said Nigel. In the early 1970's I witnessed the first female apprentice mechanic in the town I lived in at the time. Later I remember her fixing an issue on my car and I thought nothing of it as she'd had the same training as the male mechanics,. Up to present times. Our window cleaner is female and the local taxi service is run and operated by a female. The local pub is also run by a female and our Royal Mail service is a female postie. I never had a problem with it apart from none of them would accept my marriage proposals. 😅
Thinking about the women my extended family, you really do have all kinds; from the typical kindergarten teacher to doctor to security guard/bouncer and engineer.
My father taught me everything since I was a little girl. I learnt to do everything myself. I always thought if someone can do it, I can do it. And I do it all. I don't expect anyone else to do anything for me. I own my own house, car, business and I'm quite proud of it. I am loan free, I paid my loans within 5 years, because why not? It's wrong to expect others do what you can do and if you can't do it, learn it. Why complain your husband about doing anything when you can do it yourself. Oh and I live and was born in Finland.
Equality between the genders (and otherwise) in Finland is partially a result of harsh conditions (long, cold, dark winters, long distances, geographically separated from the Europe by the seas on the long border). Back in the days we didn't really have different classes of citizens formed because everyone just worked equally hard to get by. Basically every family had their own farm and fields to feed themselves with. The number of people in the cities were a small minority compared to the people living this way. The only "upper class" was our colonizers, Swedish or Soviet union people and people working under them, such as the people of the church, who either came from the colonizer country or worked under them as crusaders to our country. So, the equality has been a condition to survive. Everyone worked equally on the fields, everyone did whatever they could to make themselves and their families to survive with little to no help from the outside. There has been jobs that were considered more a women's/men's job, but whenever the times asked for it, anyone would do whatever they could to survive. I have an interesting historical example of lack of classes in the Finnish society. There's no private schools in Finland, as well as no school uniforms. Schools were formed as a public service to begin with, and every child regardless of their family or sex went to the same town school geographically most close to their home. The reason we never ended up having school uniforms was that going to school was legally obligatory for every child, and they wanted to ensure that every family was able to afford to send all of thrir children to the school by not having anything obligatory you'd have to buy in order to attempt to school. The school lunch at our school system was formed for the same reason: to encourage every family to send their children to the school as they'd get a warm meal every day. So, our society really doesn't know anything about societal hierarchies, compared to many other countries. This can be seen by many ways, starting with it being socially acceptable (and expected) to call your teacher with their first name, ending with the fact that there's no services or stores having a customer profile of any kind, let it be poorer or richer people. As a Finn myself, I actually struggled to come up with examples, because I really have no first hand experience of living in a hierarchical and sexist society like that.
This is factually correct information, which will shock many of my British subscribers whose view of Finland is incorrect, and based on BBC and MSM cliches. Thanks for your comment.
@@Kotifilosofi Most Brits think that Finland is some sort of authoritarian country where there is snow in the summer, and there are polar bears, and people still live like peasants. The truth is that Britain is now the ugliest, sickest, crime-ridden hell hole in Europe
@@nigelwatson2750 interesting how differently people see other countries 😄 Finland has never been an authoritarian country far as I know. Even though we once were close to get a king & monarchy (search for "Kingdom of Finland 1918" on wikipedia). We don't have snow in the summer, even though we only have actual summer season for a short period of time (May, June, July) when the temperature gets commonly above +20°C, and the dark time is long (feels even longer if we do not get the snow in the winter!). We don't have polar bears :D but we do have some other arctic species, such as arctic fox, snowy owl, reindeer. I think the definition of "living like a pheasant" depends on the person and how the society they live in views things. We still do and value many things our ancestors did, such as sauna bathing (naked and throwing water to the stove is the proper way!), berry and mushroom picking, fishing, hunting, hiking, growing some edible plants (even on a balcony on a block of flats) etc. But these are done not so much out of the necessity anymore, but since we find it relaxing and healing. Especially the connection with the nature is even today crucial to many Finns, regardless of if they live in a city or in the countryside. In general, I feel like Finns don't care that much about the appearance and social status, but rather focus on things they genuinely like, no matter what they look like while doing the things they like 🤔 we even proudly/half-jokingly call ourselves "tuulipukukansa" (the shellsuit nation). Another thing to note about us is our sense of humor, which often appears ironic (especially self-ironic) ;) I feel like Britain suffers from the same thing many countries which have been the focal point over the centuries does: they get surprised that there's life and culture and people different from themselves out there. Of course a country that has been popular for a long time suffers from the excessive tourism and people coming in the country and boiling the pot. I'd like to visit Britain one day, there's so much historical architecture and cultural things we as a relatively young nation lack :)
@@nigelwatson2750 btw, if you want to get to the proper Finnish summer mood, watch the music video Always been right by von Hertzen Brothers! The lyrics are also thought-provoking imo 👌
In the UK there was a recent ruling that council school dinner cooks were an equivalent pay level to refuse collectors. The council almost went broke with the cost of back pay for the dinner operatives. I know which job is more appealing in the UK on the same pay irrespective of gender. Hows the birth rate in Finland, should be OK if its a socialist utopia!
@@nigelwatson2750 I presume Finland is still family based and with traditional values. Hopefully the career women wont exclude themselves from the gene pool. That would be a shame.
I think the birth rate in Finland is 1.4, ie below replacement level, like most of Scandinavia, and Europe generally. Once a woman has given birth she does get weaker, regarding lifting etc. Even if she's done pelvic floor exercises. Just saying.
I've been thinking about this lately, as there are people who say that the traditional roles were better, when men did men jobs and women did women jobs, everyone knew their place, and now people are lost. I think that men should regain their healthy masculinity back, and take their responsibility again, and all women should not be forced to work like men. All in all, it is not about this duality, you folks, it is about individual freedom. Regardless your sex. The mold that says you should behave this and this because you are this and this. Embrace your masculinity and femininity and whatever, but keep it separate from what you are supposed to do in this world and your job, and express yourself in your job and what you do, that is true freedom.
Couldn't agree more, people are lost . My mother was a housewife and mother , so was my sister, sister in law, cousin etc . The men go to work, everyone is happy with their role .
I work at a open pit mine in Finland. We have lots of very beautiful women driving the huge rigid dump trucks. It sometimes blows my mind even as a Finn, as generally women aren't held as very good drivers. Driving those dump trucks holds a huge responsibility of the equipment and everyone's safety.
Funny you say that, I am Swedish and my daughter is studying to be an electrician and she is very outnumbered since they are only two girls doing this program at her high school. But she loves it!!!!❤
Nordic countries have worked on equallity for decades and for me it is natural that i as a women have the freedom of choosing what i want to do without feeling limited. I think it starts with the parents tbh. If you raise your kids with no genderroles expecation they wont feel limited to what they can do when they grow up. I remember my girl at 5 years of age told me she wanted to be lumberjack who drive those big vehickles in the forrest when she grows up. Back then we lived in a small village out in the country and she saw those things frequently and thought it was exciting. Well she didn't become a lumberjack in the end, but i think that if you as parents let your children know that all jobs are avaiable for them regardless of what gender they are, they will never feel that limitation and can explore their needs and wants and wishes for the future much further.
I would have loved to of been a brickie when I was younger but being the 80s it would have been hell also other girls think you are weird not to do a 'girly job'. The culture of tartyness appears to come from America and also blame parents for not parenting.
My friend is Finnish and he moved out of Finland because he can't find a good Finnish woman for himself. I'm also Finnish myself and I've also thought about whether I should go somewhere else where there are better women
I can definitely relate. Most women around me are extremely capable people and really like physical work. My sister especially comes to mind. A couple of years ago she started a project where we tore down an old log house and now she's restoring another one. (Actually, there are a few videos of the log house we tore down, if someone is interested: th-cam.com/play/PLUFdoP4GI5BU_b9617-7DcdR9xhpEozCe.html&si=wiLIU1IMZkQW_fUu)
8:28 Why can't young girls dresd how they want and women doing a painting job dress appropriately at the same time?? You're comparing completely different contexts? It's literally the same as comparing good looking male painters as teenage/young adult men going to a dance
Just as well it is summer otherwise your tongue would have stuck to the window watching those painters, and the next time you post a video dribbling about the trades being supermodels in Finland at least take a couple of photos. Perhaps your attitude to trades people was different in the uk viewing them all through the lens of an urban academic ?
I doubt he would’ve posted such a gushing video had the three female painters been the big butch types with multiple piercings that he assumed the British equivalents to be.
I always had respect for people who worked with their hands. When I was a kid, me, my brother and my dad, bought sold our house to buy some land. We lived in a caravan and built a house ourselves. Safe to say that my education was somewhat disrupted - probably a positive!
@@nigelwatson2750 Ok Nigel fair play 👍 What a fantastic achievement building a house with your dad and living in a caravan whilst doing it. This was another important part of your education.
In Britain these days you wouldn't get anyone turning up to paint a house, most young people are playing computer games on the dole. Then there are the cowboys who would either not turn up or do a terrible job. Anyone good would be in their 50's and booked up for 3 years.
The wimmen was surprised that the man didnt paint the house by himself to, im quite sure. As a swede it sounds weird a man hire wimen to paint hes house.
I found your video very interesting and insightfull. As a Finnish woman who has been working in construction for over two decades I have also given this a lot of thought. Our society, as well as many others, has changed rapidly during the last century. Most of us used to be farmers and even if there were a separation of duties, everybody did what they needed to do and all labour was hard labour. During the last century people moved into cities and started working in factories, and work was still hard for everybody. Then the wars took out a lot of men, and women had to do men's work too, in addition to their own. There was a period of men's and women's work being clearly separated after the wars, but that was just a couple of decades. As we get more technologically advanced, there is not much need for physical strengt anymore, even in construction or logistics. I've never been particularly strong or fit and I've managed just fine. The labour laws actually don't allow stupidly/dangerously hard labour (even though I still see some stubborn specimens insisting on lifting heavy loads without aid or sticking their heads into running machinery... But that's on them). There are still many girls who don't even think about a career in construction or other male dominated fields, just because they don't have many role models to look up to. And because schools tend to steer girls towards more academic careers. What I personally find confusing is, why we still talk about those fields being "hard" or "though", but somehow disregard nursing being unfairly demanding, physical and underpaid. None of the guys I have worked with would have swallowed the crappy pay and subbar leadership the nurses undergo. Sure, construction work is physical labour, and the weather may be harsh sometimes, but that's all it is. What I consider "though" in construction is mostly the way people there tend to treat each other sometimes, belittling newcomers and disregarding safety precautions and their own health, and the fact that you need to travel far to work and stay away from home for long periods. And as I have talked about it with my male colleagues, they find it taxing too, being away from their children, their partner and their home. What I wish to see in the future is everybody having the opportunity to consider any career they want to. And having the opportunity to switch fields if they want to. Life is too short to waste on arbitary separation of work by gender, and we miss a lot of ideas and innovation if we don't consider everybody's thoughts. We need more women in construction and logistics and peace negotiations, we need more men in teaching, healthcare and at home. It's important to utilize everyone's strenghts. It would be also rewarding and healthy for society to enable more people to make things with their hands, and to farm and grow food, but that's a different topic.
@@nigelwatson2750 I agree wholeheartedly with the comments raised. English is spoken so fluently worldwide these days, but not so much in the UK in my opinion. One of my many past occupations was preparing manuscripts for publication but these days I frequently find myself having to refer to modern dictionaries.
@@nigelwatson2750 I was in awe, too. The text is not only fluent, it is well structured , has a good rhythm and she describes the subject drom different angles. - Another female Finn.
Suomessa on edelleen vastustusta naisia kohtaan miesvaltaisilla aloilla, siksi niin moni nainen aloittaa oman yrityksen kommenttiketjussa mainitut ovat suurimmaksi osaksi yrittäjiä. Naisia on myös palokunnissa ja uutisiin on päätynyt infoa inhottavasta käytöksestä naisia kohtaan. Minä mietin pikkutyttönä poliisiksi ryhtymistä, totesin että olen liian lyhyt. Sittemmin mietin automekaanikkoa tai hitsaria. Perheen miesten mielestä olivat paskaisia ja huonosti palkattuja ammatteja. Nykyään olen sairaanhoitaja 😂
Yes. I live england two years 20 years a go. In chester. Many People understand me better than other english. I havent use english in 20 years but i still can do it. Like germany, sweden, russia, spain and thai, and i work in factory Basic level not high school or so... its normal now days that young children speak two, three language here
Excellent 😊 I’m a painter myself and I’ve worked in Iceland Denmark Norway and USA. You see a lot of this in the last 10 - 15 years or so, lots of young females doing this kind of work. It’s actually quite a high paying job and it’s creative and fun and it keeps you in shape if you do it right. Enjoy! 😉
Born in the 40s, I was put into commerce, but I took up building and other interests. At 70 I bought my first keyboard, but I'm still building and landscaping, as well as growing my own food. 😁 Isn't life great when we make it that way. Best to you from UK
I´m Finnish and for about 20 years we´we had these two girls doing all the interior painting. They started their business right after trade school and now both married with families ,continuing to do a exellent job.
I went to Halfords for new windscreen wipers. The guy who served me asked if i needed them fitted i said no i would manage .30min later i gave up and went back in the shop to get help. The assistant he called was a very attractive girl about 18yrs old, she had the wipers on in 2 minutes. Of course i expected a guy would sent to do the job. My excuse is old age as well.😃
In Britain you'd normally get Dangerous Dave arriving half an hour late, asking you for a cuppa, blocking your toilet with a big jobbie, taking two hours for lunch and leaving in the afternoon with his job unfinished.
Speaking as someone who has built an extension with their husband alone & also laid a huge block paved drive, I think it's brilliant that Finnish women can have these occupations so easily. There is something very satisfying about completing any kind of construction work & building maintenance. Many uk women love craft.....this is the same thing, just on a much bigger scale. 😊
English here. We not only built a house, but buildings for businesses as well. On retirement, I moved along with farm animals, husband on chemo, 90year old disabled mother to begin renovation of our present farmhouse. Twenty years on I'm still logging, fencing, mixing concrete in the old Parker mixer, and enjoyinying every waking hour. I rise at 5.30, same as I always did, and at nearly 77 I'm still making plans.
Thank you for your kind words about finnish women! I happen to be a finnish female which has worked all her life in jobs which are traditionally labeled as mens' work. I am a builder, a painter, a carpenter and a wood crafter also I have got some mechanics background. Atm I'm working at a logistics center driving a forklift and carrying heavy packages. When I first started my career path 30 years ago the attitude towards women in jobs like these were traditional just like what's happening in UK still nowadays. Sometimes in the past it was very hard to get recognised as a valid productive worker because of my gender. I look very feminine I'm short only 165 cm tall and have got very long golden hair and my face is childlike even this age. But I never complained about anything and I did my work the best I could with extra precision and execution. My employers soon noticed that this girl does much better job than those lazy boys and men and said damn that girl/woman is strong and very good at her job. Hey, money talks even more for entrepreneurs than musty gender roles. You have to be worthy for your salary. I'm so very glad for younger women that they have got their career choices more open nowadays.
I am a woman and in IT. I get to do software and hardware stuff, and physical installing with powertools. I consider myself feminine. It's usually not a problem for anyone but on occasion there's the one's who doubt your skills, but luckily it's rare. I enjoy my job very much 🎉
@@lamppuu1 It's strange that women are belittled in computing history and IT technology when the very first programmer was a woman (Ada Lovelace) and the first person to design a compiler was also a woman (Grace Hopper). Operators were mostly women too. Women dominated the field of IT especially programming until second world war ending. It changed when it was realised this could make a lot of money so men took over the jobs telling women haven't got brain or logical ability for this stuff 😵 In my field physical and crafty labor it's true that you need muscles and you need to be fit. But with modern tools and auxiliary and knowledge of ergonomy makes it easier to access many women and less fit men!
Funny story: My son when aged around 20 was with 3 mates dressed in Leaderhousen at the german xmas market in Leeds had too many steins and met some girls from Helsinki. They were so taken with them that they decided to fly to Finland straight away. Idea scuppered by 2 not able to find their passports. The other 2 actually got to the airport only to find their intended flight was full. It was december! The girls must have impressed them!
Must be rough to be a trophy husband Nigel! Funny story though, I took some car wheels to be blasted and painted a few days back. Turns out that the guy has three daughters who do work for him also and they paint houses among other things. I bet this stuff exists only in the sticks though...
I lived in Italy and China. In Italy, the way women were treated was crazy - almost like another species! In China I looked so different, that the local limitations for women didn't mostly apply to me. Less disrespect, rules, derision, violence, lucky for me.
Thank you very much for this video ❤ This is what women do here in Finland 🇫🇮 I’m a happy Finnish woman and I’m proud of Finnish men that they allow us the freedom to fullfill ourselves 🙏🥰 In Finland, men know that it is to everyone’s benefit when women are equal with men in society and working life 👍🏼
Your video was refreshingly honest in what you have noticed about culture and about yourself. As a Finnish female i couldnt help but smile a bit when you spoke about Finnish women getting pride on doing things themselves, as I recognized myself (my mother and sisters) from that :D
In the north, you would marry a woman that could be your partner and take care of your house, children and properties together with you. It is a partnership.
Yeah, in the north we do not have any use for female just doodling around in pretty dresses and baking cup cakes. Here the husband goes and digs a ditch, meanwhile the wife goes do something that requires less physical strength like fixing the fence.
Being from Rochdale (it was somebody from Rochdale that taught me this expression) I am sure you are familiar with the term, "Bingo blouse" to describe a shirt - a chemise, if you will, generously unbuttoned at the neck adorning a voluptuous female form. As in, "She's wearing a bingo blouse." EYES DOWN FOR A FULL HOUSE Boom! BOOM! In a Basil Brush fashion.
Haha you’re lucky my old school friend isn’t watching this. Nearly 6 ft, blonde, blue eyed and gorgeous, she threw in a successful career in the City to start her own painting and decorating business in London. She’d be after you with her with a pot of creosote for calling her a lazza 😂😂😂😂
Interesting. I worked with a guy from Finland, Juuso Miguel, in aviation. On the surface, he acted rather dorky but was a big guy 6’2” and some 270 lbs .. but he was so much smarter than many of my American counterparts .. I was giving him a lift to eastern Washington state for work the day “bin Laden” the hyped scary phantom from that Sept day in 2002 and we stopped at a gas station and in big bold letters on the paper “ world is safer” was there . We both started laughing our butts off as we both knew it was all bs .. he just had to get the paper as it was so ridiculous . I was glad to have Juuso with me in Mexico for work as he spoke Finnish, English and Spanish quite well however he was totally unaware how dangerous it was in Mexico City and started making a scene at a restaurant about a flimsy chair and I had to scurry him out of there before a cartel member did something to both of us
Yes, the climate selective very heavily for intelligence and self-discipline in Finland, so it is no surprise that there's lots of small people about. You didn't get to survive in the 19th Century in Finland if you were dumb enough to eat your seed potatoes in March because you were hungry. Finns live in a high trust society that is very safe, and many DO make the mistake of assuming that other countries are as civilised as their koti maa
I am the one who always paints our house and the daughters have joined in over the years. I don't know of anyone else around here who does their painting. I'm the only one who looks after their garden as well.
Assumption is the mother of presumption Change your space change your mind Equity is not equality of opportunity Sounds like I need to learn Finnish and move to Finland bud lol Ain't too flexible meself! Bless your heart Nigel
Thanks, Robert. I was thinking about doing the job myself, but when I saw them doing it, and what was involved, I knew that I had made the right decision.
@@nigelwatson2750 I'm getting my patio done I used to love workin up a sweat in the sun but lookin at what is involved The graft would have knocked me flat on me bum which would not be fun
Nigel I am beginning to see more women in the building industry Where I live there is a lot of new flats going up and I see few women on there Anyway did the women make a good job painting your house?
You know I work in a foundry.
Across the four shifts and well over a hundred people on the shop floor involved in production there is only one female.
It's definitely cultural because when a job vacancy arises it's as open to a female as it is a male and it isn't a job that a female cannot do although it's heavy work.
No females apply.
They just don't seem to want that kind of work but in other countries they do.
Putting aside career women we seem to be a nation of dog walkers and nail technicians in the UK.
Having said that I don't think that the Soviet model where there were large teams of females doing hard physical graft was good for women, men or society.
I think that the thing I was trying to get across in the video is that we were both brought up in Britain, and Britain has a very definite culture, which seems to affect the type of expectations & decisions that men and women make. To be honest, your experiences from the foundry, Lee, don't surprise me at all - it's definitely a thing
I think the pigeon holing and social class system in Britain is suffocating and depressing. I have found each time I go back that it is more and more obvious. The people are depressed. They feel there's no future. I recognised in the 1980's when I left school that I wanted something different out of life so flew. There are problems and hurdles wherever you go in life but the constant put downs and you can't do that drove me nuts. I was always the square peg in the round hole and refused to conform.
I think of how absolutely horrified the Muslim immigrants would have been seeing topless women in the tabloids and drunken half-clad females out “on the razz” in our high streets at the weekend. No wonder they don’t want to mix and strive to keep themselves separate.
Our culture has become so very degraded.
USA pushed women into workplace in the 1920's. Idea was to double the 'tax base'. Another objective was to have more government control over the education of children.
@@cropduster8798 True, there are many depressed here in the UK, but not us. My husband of 58 years is nearly 80 and suffers multiple health issues, but we are positive people head on in life tackling major projects and enjoying our hillside garden. He is all I have left, all I have shared since I was 14 years old, and we are not dwelling on the cloudy parts of life, but using every moment to the best encouraging young locals who are building their own homes the way we did.
I'm Finnish but used to live in Northern Ireland in the late 80s and early 90s. I remember once mentioning at a ladies' coffee meeting that I had had some problems with my power drill. All women looked at me and asked WHAT I had needed a power drill for, couldn't my husband do that job 😂!
I'm not surprised - hilarious!
My mother's air conditioner broke.
Two women in work clothes came to fix it and they were still feminine and very efficient. 12 points 10, easily. Greetings, 58-year-old man from Finland
Yes, I can imagine: calm Finnish efficiency
Here locksmith visit and same experience.💯
I'm a Finnish guy who's lived in the UK for 16 years, and I agree with all your observations. My biggest culture shock here has been the class system and how important "status" is for people. Having grown up in Finland it's really hard to wrap my head around all the intricacies of a class system, but here it's so ingrained into the culture.
Thanks for your comment. The longer you stay in England, the more you will be aware of it. The class system defines Britain.
Less so in the countryside, but it's true that my late cousins were sent for elocution lessons to rid himself of any hint of Suffolk dialect. Newcomers to Suffolk have objected to locals 'lowering the tone of the area' but thankfully Suffolk and especially Norfolk Councils recognise the need to keep our old country ways alive on their websites as part of our history. We both speak it over breakfast because we have moved away and like to feel at home!😄
My daughter loves cute 'girly' things and she hopes to become a builder one day. I'm all for it! Bring back woodwork and metal work back in the schools too!
We did metalwork and woodwork at school and all the girls loved it, me included! We made a cracking letter rack, keyring, and egg holder!
We had both woodwork and textile work in school for one year and then chose one or other for the next two. Like we made wooden forks and aprons -- before they started cooking lessons. Life skills you know.
I see quite a lot of young women doing manual jobs in the UK, some of them very attractive. That aside, it is quite obvious that Finnish society is much healthier and more rational than British society.
There is no British society, that would imply that most of us can be called British, but that's not the case! The people who have chosen to exploit predominantly England can't be called British, which is a very loose term, there's even a politician whose mother came here to give birth and then went immediately back home, this politician has spent most of her life in her mother country and America, but she's allowed to call herself British, what a joke, and she is probably one of millions.
I live in a farming area in the UK, women here fearlessly drive machinery and quads, and continue to run farms and smallholdings after becoming widowed. A few youngsters are attending agricultural college, but many aspire to higher paid work in computing or law.
@@jennywren8937 I wouldn't dispute that Jenny, however the natural desire for women to want children will mean this is only a temporary thing.
As you say, there are far easier ways for a lady to make a living, thanks.
@@andrewlilley3660 Temporary? They are all past child bearing age! That's why farms are going on the market, better paying work for youngsters elsewhere.
" It was like Bananarama" 😂 brilliant! Love it.
I worked for an Architect in Forssa and she only employed Women and older men like me. The painters and carpenters were as good as I've ever seen. Yes it was a culture shock but a very rewarding one. We as a group always enjoyed a drink together on a Friday and I was usually the butt of the jokes and I accepted that as a male and earned their respect.
I'm a Finnish guy and I really appreciate Finnish women for the reasons you've mentioned, especially the mentality of not caring too much about appearing (overly) feminine. I am much more attracted to more natural look.
Hear hear! I'm finnish. Lately I have been awakening to realize that there is no better woman than Finnish woman. If I could live thousands of lives I wouldn't choose any other than my kind. My dear finnish woman. You are in the fact the sexiest, the most beautiful, capable and smartest females I could ever want. I'm married one and I don't have thousands of lives but if I had I would marry almost all of you precious ones
Maatiaislehmiä.
@@KveeniSorry, but my husband of 58 years disagrees. I'm mostly English, but it wasn't a prerequisite for marriage.
Haha you like a man looking, non-make up wearing masculine potato shaped finnish girl. Onnea näiden rumien haahkojen kanssa. 😂
@@KveeniSuomalaiset naiset ovat enimmäkseen läskejä feministilehmiä tatuointeineen ja kissoineen, mielenterveyshäiriöisiä lesboja. Käy päiväkin thaimaassa tai muualla South-East Asiassa niin tajuat millaisia maatiaislehmiä suomalaiset ämmät on. 🙂👍
Finnish women showed what hey was all about already back in the winter war. They showed that we men could ABSOLUTELY count on our women in every occasion there is...even in war time and battlefields.. 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
My dad was a perfectionist.. pattern maker by trade. He taught us all (4 children) how to do stuff in the house.. decorating repairs ..garden work all sorts.. iv renovated 2 houses transformed a few gardens..l love it..l live in Turkey now..l live in an apartment ground floor..2 years ago l painted the outside of my apartment. Up the ladder, no problem.The Turkish women were shocked 😮.. My daughter, who speaks fluent Turkey, said she could hear a few neighbour having a go at their husbands for not doing their paint work, lol 😂
Brilliant!
In Switzerland there is many female painters too.
That's good to hear
Hi! Swedish woman here. I have the impression that we are much more handy in the north in general. I think if you take 50 random Nordic women, gen x or older and 50 random English men (who don't work in the construction sector) to compete in driving a nail, I'd put my money on the Nordic women.
In my 20s, I spent a whole summer in Surrey cutting up and burning down an entire birch that an Englishman wanted to get rid of. He had tried himself before I got there, but couldn't get a fire going. When the neighbors came by and asked what was going on, he told them:
- This is a Swedish fire
- What is Swedish about it, the neighbors asked
- It burnes
Finally I asked if I wasn't going to let his rotten shed that had collapsed go the same way? Then he said "no, because the prices of timber are so high in England that it has value". It was one of those cheap sheds built out of thin pieces of some fast growing Asian wood that had no value when new, and I had just burned down a whole fresh birch tree!!
Great stories - I'm sure that other people will enjoy reading about your experiences
You come up with the most interesting topics! Love your channel. My Daddy brought this little girl up doing anything and everything she had a mind to, with the admonition, "You can do anything you want to do." So, I trained my own horses, became a born again Christian, ran several businesses including a custom slaughter/locker plant and a weekly newspaper. Now retired living on the road 17 years as a fulltime Nomad without hindrance of the nervous Nellie fearful inner whinings of so many citified, dependent, professionally helpless females like, aren't you afraid!!!??? No, I'm not. And that translated over my 70 yr so far lifetime into going at it challenging the establishment cabal and beating them because we refused to knuckle under and be quiet. We helped defeat their attempt to license all Private, Home, and Christian schools in Nebraska back in 1983. Boy did they come roaring into town to take us down after that! But it was worth it just to beat them. Later I got smart, quit feeding the beast and enjoyably hit the road with no plans but to continue living and traveling and speaking up for God's glory.
Well done, some seriously impressive stuff here!
@@nigelwatson2750 Thanks for the kind words, brother. The glory, if there is some though, is all the Lord's. God bless you.
Since I woke up to reality and more especially at the onset of the BS, I so wished that I had qualified in something more practical, like my old dad who was an electrician. I trained as a massage therapist, but having the ability to wire a house, mend a car, erect a fence, build a house, etc, etc, is way more practical and 'clever' in my eyes. However, as I'm a woman of a similar age to you Nigel, with all those mobility issues and aching limbs you talk about (affecting me for a number of years now), I could definitely do with a good massage therapist in-house to have my issues tended to exactly when I need it. So my kind are not without their uses I guess...
@@jennywren8937 ???
@@angelatateclownreality869Deleting immediately! Just had my NHS appointment to get my eyes fixed. Sorry😊
There's a vocational track in the Finnish education system. Arts and crafts, for instance, remain popular career choices. You don't have to go to university to become a respected professional in your craft.
Parents of academically gifted students sure hope that their children will go to university but they aren't going to force them. Their expectations in that sense are lower. They want their children to be happy above everything else, and if painting or welding is what makes their offspring happy, so be it.
I, for one, had full freedom making my own career choices. It just so happened that I went from having a vocational qualification to having a Master's degree in technology.
That's another thing that Finland has: Relatively high social mobility.
All true. England has a very rigid class system
UK is actually sunny 🔆😎
Still a shithole 😂👍🏻
No trails in the sky.....have you noticed?
He's actually not in the UK.
I am of Nordic descent! I am a woman who enjoys physical labor like mowing and working on things around the house. All my neighbors are so worried about me doing manual labor. They just think its so strange. My husband works all day and commutes and it just makes sense for me to get the chores done. Other women say things like, there is no way Im going to do yard work, etc., yet they go to the gym and workout. Im getting a workout in the great outdoors. Maybe this is why Im wired like this. Im from hearty stock😂!
There's a phrase for it in Finnish - doing general maintenance work around the house is better than going to the gym.
Our women are pretty tough, but so are ladies around the world. I love that it's acceptable here for women to do what they want to. 😊 We literally have no concept of bringing up our daughters any different from ours sons- certain tasks need to be learned, male or female.
And you don't realise how different this makes you to the Brits - their daughters are brought up to be useless princesses.
@@nigelwatson2750 It's a shame. I'm sure British ladies are quite capable, seeing their actions during the war (even Her Majesty herself!). But yeah upbringing plays a big part in this, and we too have helpless kids who cannot even boil water. 😅
@@nigelwatson2750 No we weren't Nigel. Born in the 40s our childhood consisted of an expectation that we would all do our share. At six years old I would be given a wood chopper and told to fetch faggots for the fire. I still enjoy all my old fashioned ways. Treats during the 50s were few and far between, and we had to earn them. Everything we wore had to be serviceable like liberty bodices and lace up shoes.
@@nigelwatson2750 I think your real princesses are not useless and didn't you just have a remarkable female monarch who served in WWII?
That's completely unfair. I've lived in Finland my whole life and not once has a supermodel turned up to do any kind of work.
Just a whole bunch of 10/10 plain Jaana's
You did not have enough work to be done - lol. Maybe you should start needing new and different color from different painters on each side of the house.
I agree lots of big girls in small clothes in the uk ! I’m envious of the blue sky something we don’t see anymore here in Devon always a grey haze 😢
I spoke to a Spanish girl at college 20 years ago and she said that the British are obsessed with pubs and their life revolves around pub life and that British people have just one main focus of interest, and I was more .. I think it was European because I had diverse interests.
Women still come up against opposition to doing "men's" work in UK, only recently accepted driving HGV's. Women did all these jobs during the war but the government and society very quickly brushed those times under the carpet. Office jobs that previously carried respect and a good wage became womens jobs and lowered paid 🤷
Ironically one of the biggest drivers of this post war regression were the unions. These so called progressive organisations wanted to keep their closed shop. The Lost Victory by Corelli Barnett is a good read on this subject
Sadly employing women in such roles helps keep wages down.
Don't shoot the messenger 😊.
One of the biggest drivers of the post war regression you mention were the unions. The so called progressive movements wanted to keep their closed shop so they were happy to put things back to pre war conditions. Corelli Barnetts book The Lost Victory deals with this.
There was one woman HGV driver in the 60's..they did a TV piece on her as it was rare..
Ironically one of the biggest contributors to the post war regression were the unions. These so called progressive organisations wanted to keep their closed shop and made sure things went back to the pre war working conditions. In his great book The Lost Victory, Corelli Barnett touches on this.
Great video as a FINNISH WOMAN I DO EVERY JOB MEN CAN TOO I GREW WITH ME FATHERS QUIDANDE WITH EVERY JOB HE DID IN HOUSE AND REPAIRING LIKE LOTS OF OUR WOMEN IN YEARS SURELY TILL DECADE 80'S ZO WE ARE UP TO EVERYTHING LIKE OPENING SUFFED KITCHEN PIPE LAMPS CHANGING ON THE CEILING SCREWDRIVER WORKS PUTTING HOLES ON THE WALLS FOR OUR PAINTINGS AND SILICICONE
KITTING WORKS AND ZO ON ...THANKS TO OUR FATHERS AND MOM'S WHO WERE US😊 INCOURAGING HERE WHEN DONE THE JOB PRAISING US TOO.. GREAT PARENTHOOD...NO DOOR OPENING OF PRINCESS LIKE TREATMENTS TO ME WE ARE EGUAL WITH MEN HERE 😂❤AND LIKE IT
Brilliant, and maximum respect to your family!
It's amazing how you said people who come from other countries don't only bring g their bodies but also their minds and cultures. That's exactly the problem we are suffering from in relation to our new residents coming to our Western countries from you know where, it won't work out at all.
True.
I think it's the numbers which are unacceptable. So unfair for those who have worked all their lives to bear this burden.
Thanks for the video. I agree with everything you've said. I found the Finns to be lovely people when I was there in 2000 for a few months.
My dad is a contractor and I help him sometimes on small jobs ..the builders are always asking me what I'm doing on a building site lol I laugh and say " I'm helping my dad on the job " keep in mind my dad always checks my work he doesn't usually let me use nail guns or a miter saw but I can paint , plaster , fix or build cabinets , put in door knobs and locks , carry doors ( If they're hollow ) and distrubute materials 🙂 I would never start a company myself but I can't help but critiquing other carpenters' workmanship
Impressive!
My fully jabbed neighbour likes to paint peas in a bird cage, he tells me he's a Trapped Peas Artist 👍
Wow, dad joke alert🚨
@@pureblood8307 What did the British captain, sailing Shakespeare to Denmark, say when his ship encountered a severe emergency, sighting Denmark but far from his final destination?
To beach or not to beach! That are the question!
@@Mike-zx1kx🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
I lived in Germany back in the seventies, one day when travelling by tram three attractive young women boarded. They all wore the same dungaree type overalls and were splattered by paint streaks. I remember thinking they had obviously just finished a hard days work and i was trying to remember if I had ever seen a British female doing a similar traditional male job.
German girls are also great
Finland is the first country to offer the new bird flu vax..starting next week...
Yeah, it's an offer that will be taken up by some lunatics, probably in the Uusimaa region
@nigelwatson2750 Never learn..
40m doses are being brought by the EU..They are coming for my chickens..cats also have to be chipped now in UK, so them next..masks and goggles next...
Round two
I believe ALL chickens will have to be registered in the UK, even where there is just one on the premises. Meanwhile we are so pleased to have an increase in nesting swallows this year.
It’s kind of upsetting watching this video from Balearics where we’ve been chemsprayed like crazy and it’s cloudy all day long :(
Didn't you offer to 'foot' the ladder for them, Nigel, i'm sure you could have been of some help?
No, I'm not a pervert!
I would assume they weren't wearing short skirts 😂😂
Thank you, that was an interesting topic. I am a Finnish woman who has worked in England for six months and I am married to Indonesian and have lived in Indonesia too.
I think in England, the family that I worked for was used to hard working women (I worked as an au pair) but when I have been in Indonesia, many people are looking me weird when I painted walls, tried to start a basket business and a photography business. Vlogging and going around the town by myself of with 2 kids. Everyone always asked me do I know how to cook. And when I told that in Finland we have to do everything by ourselves - thus we know how to do many things, they are just amazed.
We have less people so everyone has to learn to be independent 🙂
This is true - in Finland, everybody is expected to contribute
English here, never went to Uni, married at 18, buying first house in my 20s. Despite health problems obtained fair jobs, sold everything to buy a field, lived without services, started successful businesses, worked 18 hour days, 7 days a week, nursed all family members and together we built a house which took us twenty years. Never had a passport or iPhone, never watch tv, 77 now and still doing manual. 5ft high, 8stone, same as when I was 20😊 Still looking feminine.
Respect!
I worked in construction in many countries. Just to give you an example: when I worked on a large infrastructure project in the UK, there were Women on the same job as me. I worked down a trench and out in the Scottish winter, the women chose jobs where they could sit in a warm dump truck all day. That's their choice, but there is no way they should earn the same money as a person who risks injury or life and has to do a much harder job.
Just realized i needed some painting work done myself too
In Finnish schools they also encourage individual talents and interests, because we feel like a motivated individual will do better in both their studies and when entering the their future career. This is also made easier with the lack of standardized testing, because it doesn't push parents and schools to focus purely on academics. We teach art and practical skills in out schools and if someone is talented, motivated and seems to thrive in those subjects we try to build that up. I also think that's why Finland, despite being such a small country has so many talented artists and athletes for our population size. Maybe that's part of our happiness factor here, freedom to choose and follow our passions, with our friends, family and teachers cheering us on.
Compared to England, Finland is an infinitely free country to live in terms of mindless rules & order following. Finns live their lives and have less social pressure to conform. I love living here, and I think Finns are the best!
This was very interesting observation! I’m a Finnish woman with three sisters, and our dad (and mom) always has told us we can become whatever we want to be and that we are capable and strong. He has tought us to change car tires etc, everything he has tought to our brother as well. Our parents brought us up in similar way and into similar expectations. I think it has had a humongous effect on us! I never had to concider my gender while choosing occupation or hobbies. In addition my husband has very similar mindset. His masculinity is in no way threatened by me renovating our house or equally contributing into our finances.
I am a female Finn and lived in London in the 70' and 80's. I am now in my mid 50's and 100% agree. My Finnish mum showed by example in UK what a tough woman she is. It is a genes thing as I follow her example.
Great - more power to you and your mum
A younger Bannanarama turning up at your house , enough to get the ole ticker racing eh mate 😂
There were three of them, and they were way prettier than Bananarama, even in their prime
@@nigelwatson2750 superb 😉
Probably better that women are doing the decorating, I offered to emulsion my neighbour's back passage, and she hasn't spoken to me since?!
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Ooohhh Matron!!! 😱😱
I don't disagree with anything you've said Nigel. In the early 1970's I witnessed the first female apprentice mechanic in the town I lived in at the time. Later I remember her fixing an issue on my car and I thought nothing of it as she'd had the same training as the male mechanics,. Up to present times. Our window cleaner is female and the local taxi service is run and operated by a female. The local pub is also run by a female and our Royal Mail service is a female postie. I never had a problem with it apart from none of them would accept my marriage proposals. 😅
You've got to speculate to accumulate.
@@nigelwatson2750 😅😅😅
Thinking about the women my extended family, you really do have all kinds; from the typical kindergarten teacher to doctor to security guard/bouncer and engineer.
Oletko sinä suomalainen?
My father taught me everything since I was a little girl. I learnt to do everything myself. I always thought if someone can do it, I can do it. And I do it all. I don't expect anyone else to do anything for me. I own my own house, car, business and I'm quite proud of it. I am loan free, I paid my loans within 5 years, because why not? It's wrong to expect others do what you can do and if you can't do it, learn it. Why complain your husband about doing anything when you can do it yourself. Oh and I live and was born in Finland.
It is an honour for me to live in your country - Finns are the best!
In Ireland my brother works in construction and he said many women work on the sites and are excellent at what they do.
Equality between the genders (and otherwise) in Finland is partially a result of harsh conditions (long, cold, dark winters, long distances, geographically separated from the Europe by the seas on the long border). Back in the days we didn't really have different classes of citizens formed because everyone just worked equally hard to get by. Basically every family had their own farm and fields to feed themselves with. The number of people in the cities were a small minority compared to the people living this way. The only "upper class" was our colonizers, Swedish or Soviet union people and people working under them, such as the people of the church, who either came from the colonizer country or worked under them as crusaders to our country.
So, the equality has been a condition to survive. Everyone worked equally on the fields, everyone did whatever they could to make themselves and their families to survive with little to no help from the outside. There has been jobs that were considered more a women's/men's job, but whenever the times asked for it, anyone would do whatever they could to survive.
I have an interesting historical example of lack of classes in the Finnish society. There's no private schools in Finland, as well as no school uniforms. Schools were formed as a public service to begin with, and every child regardless of their family or sex went to the same town school geographically most close to their home. The reason we never ended up having school uniforms was that going to school was legally obligatory for every child, and they wanted to ensure that every family was able to afford to send all of thrir children to the school by not having anything obligatory you'd have to buy in order to attempt to school. The school lunch at our school system was formed for the same reason: to encourage every family to send their children to the school as they'd get a warm meal every day.
So, our society really doesn't know anything about societal hierarchies, compared to many other countries. This can be seen by many ways, starting with it being socially acceptable (and expected) to call your teacher with their first name, ending with the fact that there's no services or stores having a customer profile of any kind, let it be poorer or richer people. As a Finn myself, I actually struggled to come up with examples, because I really have no first hand experience of living in a hierarchical and sexist society like that.
This is factually correct information, which will shock many of my British subscribers whose view of Finland is incorrect, and based on BBC and MSM cliches. Thanks for your comment.
@@nigelwatson2750 what incorrect views of Finnish people they have out there? I got curious :D
@@Kotifilosofi Most Brits think that Finland is some sort of authoritarian country where there is snow in the summer, and there are polar bears, and people still live like peasants. The truth is that Britain is now the ugliest, sickest, crime-ridden hell hole in Europe
@@nigelwatson2750 interesting how differently people see other countries 😄 Finland has never been an authoritarian country far as I know. Even though we once were close to get a king & monarchy (search for "Kingdom of Finland 1918" on wikipedia). We don't have snow in the summer, even though we only have actual summer season for a short period of time (May, June, July) when the temperature gets commonly above +20°C, and the dark time is long (feels even longer if we do not get the snow in the winter!). We don't have polar bears :D but we do have some other arctic species, such as arctic fox, snowy owl, reindeer. I think the definition of "living like a pheasant" depends on the person and how the society they live in views things. We still do and value many things our ancestors did, such as sauna bathing (naked and throwing water to the stove is the proper way!), berry and mushroom picking, fishing, hunting, hiking, growing some edible plants (even on a balcony on a block of flats) etc. But these are done not so much out of the necessity anymore, but since we find it relaxing and healing. Especially the connection with the nature is even today crucial to many Finns, regardless of if they live in a city or in the countryside. In general, I feel like Finns don't care that much about the appearance and social status, but rather focus on things they genuinely like, no matter what they look like while doing the things they like 🤔 we even proudly/half-jokingly call ourselves "tuulipukukansa" (the shellsuit nation). Another thing to note about us is our sense of humor, which often appears ironic (especially self-ironic) ;)
I feel like Britain suffers from the same thing many countries which have been the focal point over the centuries does: they get surprised that there's life and culture and people different from themselves out there. Of course a country that has been popular for a long time suffers from the excessive tourism and people coming in the country and boiling the pot. I'd like to visit Britain one day, there's so much historical architecture and cultural things we as a relatively young nation lack :)
@@nigelwatson2750 btw, if you want to get to the proper Finnish summer mood, watch the music video Always been right by von Hertzen Brothers! The lyrics are also thought-provoking imo 👌
I would have loved to have seen your face Nigel.
Happy.
In the UK there was a recent ruling that council school dinner cooks were an equivalent pay level to refuse collectors. The council almost went broke with the cost of back pay for the dinner operatives. I know which job is more appealing in the UK on the same pay irrespective of gender. Hows the birth rate in Finland, should be OK if its a socialist utopia!
Finland isn't a socialist utopia. No tax credits here, and you pay to see your GP, and even for your medication
@@nigelwatson2750 I presume Finland is still family based and with traditional values. Hopefully the career women wont exclude themselves from the gene pool. That would be a shame.
I think the birth rate in Finland is 1.4, ie below replacement level, like most of Scandinavia, and Europe generally. Once a woman has given birth she does get weaker, regarding lifting etc. Even if she's done pelvic floor exercises. Just saying.
Socialist countries tend to have less children, look at Russia
We should call the painting team "Nigel's Angels"
I've been thinking about this lately, as there are people who say that the traditional roles were better, when men did men jobs and women did women jobs, everyone knew their place, and now people are lost. I think that men should regain their healthy masculinity back, and take their responsibility again, and all women should not be forced to work like men. All in all, it is not about this duality, you folks, it is about individual freedom. Regardless your sex. The mold that says you should behave this and this because you are this and this. Embrace your masculinity and femininity and whatever, but keep it separate from what you are supposed to do in this world and your job, and express yourself in your job and what you do, that is true freedom.
Couldn't agree more, people are lost . My mother was a housewife and mother , so was my sister, sister in law, cousin etc . The men go to work, everyone is happy with their role .
People should be free to do what they want with their lives, so long as they don't physically harm other people or their property.
I work at a open pit mine in Finland. We have lots of very beautiful women driving the huge rigid dump trucks. It sometimes blows my mind even as a Finn, as generally women aren't held as very good drivers. Driving those dump trucks holds a huge responsibility of the equipment and everyone's safety.
Funny you say that, I am Swedish and my daughter is studying to be an electrician and she is very outnumbered since they are only two girls doing this program at her high school. But she loves it!!!!❤
The Finnish fertility rate must be low as more women doing traditional male jobs mean both female and male can’t earn a family wage
No, the opposite is the case - outside the Uusimaa region
Nordic countries have worked on equallity for decades and for me it is natural that i as a women have the freedom of choosing what i want to do without feeling limited. I think it starts with the parents tbh. If you raise your kids with no genderroles expecation they wont feel limited to what they can do when they grow up.
I remember my girl at 5 years of age told me she wanted to be lumberjack who drive those big vehickles in the forrest when she grows up. Back then we lived in a small village out in the country and she saw those things frequently and thought it was exciting. Well she didn't become a lumberjack in the end, but i think that if you as parents let your children know that all jobs are avaiable for them regardless of what gender they are, they will never feel that limitation and can explore their needs and wants and wishes for the future much further.
In England snobbery & status anxiety are terrible
Interesting. Each culture has its ups and downs. In Nordic countries we have less stereotypes to follow, but they still exist. Like the army, etc.
It's too cold in Finland.
In the US, that wouldn't have been a big deal to me. I'm still waiting to see a group of women to show up and put a roof on a house.
I would have loved to of been a brickie when I was younger but being the 80s it would have been hell also other girls think you are weird not to do a 'girly job'. The culture of tartyness appears to come from America and also blame parents for not parenting.
Being pigeon holed from being young is very limiting. It happened to all kiss in the 80s. I experienced it myself.
My friend is Finnish and he moved out of Finland because he can't find a good Finnish woman for himself. I'm also Finnish myself and I've also thought about whether I should go somewhere else where there are better women
I like women who finnish too.
😂 same here! Top comment mate!
Wonder how many don't see what you did there..👍
The decorating?
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Classic!😆
Great video and everything you said was spot on
I can definitely relate. Most women around me are extremely capable people and really like physical work.
My sister especially comes to mind. A couple of years ago she started a project where we tore down an old log house and now she's restoring another one.
(Actually, there are a few videos of the log house we tore down, if someone is interested: th-cam.com/play/PLUFdoP4GI5BU_b9617-7DcdR9xhpEozCe.html&si=wiLIU1IMZkQW_fUu)
Brilliant!
Thanks so much for posting a link to your videos - important that Brits can see the reality of Finland and the Finnish people: kiitos paljon.
8:28 Why can't young girls dresd how they want and women doing a painting job dress appropriately at the same time?? You're comparing completely different contexts? It's literally the same as comparing good looking male painters as teenage/young adult men going to a dance
In Finland "status anxiety" and achieving status that's related to that is mocked, at least in my experience
Just as well it is summer otherwise your tongue would have stuck to the window watching those painters, and the next time you post a video dribbling about the trades being supermodels in Finland at least take a couple of photos.
Perhaps your attitude to trades people was different in the uk viewing them all through the lens of an urban academic ?
I doubt he would’ve posted such a gushing video had the three female painters been the big butch types with multiple piercings that he assumed the British equivalents to be.
I always had respect for people who worked with their hands. When I was a kid, me, my brother and my dad, bought sold our house to buy some land. We lived in a caravan and built a house ourselves. Safe to say that my education was somewhat disrupted - probably a positive!
@@nigelwatson2750 Ok Nigel fair play 👍
What a fantastic achievement building a house with your dad and living in a caravan whilst doing it. This was another important part of your education.
In Britain these days you wouldn't get anyone turning up to paint a house, most young people are playing computer games on the dole. Then there are the cowboys who would either not turn up or do a terrible job. Anyone good would be in their 50's and booked up for 3 years.
The wimmen was surprised that the man didnt paint the house by himself to, im quite sure. As a swede it sounds weird a man hire wimen to paint hes house.
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Interesting thoughts
You didn't learn a lot being in finland,
ask them to cook for you 😂😂😂
Vaimo has that base covered.
I found your video very interesting and insightfull. As a Finnish woman who has been working in construction for over two decades I have also given this a lot of thought.
Our society, as well as many others, has changed rapidly during the last century. Most of us used to be farmers and even if there were a separation of duties, everybody did what they needed to do and all labour was hard labour. During the last century people moved into cities and started working in factories, and work was still hard for everybody. Then the wars took out a lot of men, and women had to do men's work too, in addition to their own. There was a period of men's and women's work being clearly separated after the wars, but that was just a couple of decades.
As we get more technologically advanced, there is not much need for physical strengt anymore, even in construction or logistics. I've never been particularly strong or fit and I've managed just fine. The labour laws actually don't allow stupidly/dangerously hard labour (even though I still see some stubborn specimens insisting on lifting heavy loads without aid or sticking their heads into running machinery... But that's on them). There are still many girls who don't even think about a career in construction or other male dominated fields, just because they don't have many role models to look up to. And because schools tend to steer girls towards more academic careers.
What I personally find confusing is, why we still talk about those fields being "hard" or "though", but somehow disregard nursing being unfairly demanding, physical and underpaid. None of the guys I have worked with would have swallowed the crappy pay and subbar leadership the nurses undergo. Sure, construction work is physical labour, and the weather may be harsh sometimes, but that's all it is. What I consider "though" in construction is mostly the way people there tend to treat each other sometimes, belittling newcomers and disregarding safety precautions and their own health, and the fact that you need to travel far to work and stay away from home for long periods. And as I have talked about it with my male colleagues, they find it taxing too, being away from their children, their partner and their home.
What I wish to see in the future is everybody having the opportunity to consider any career they want to. And having the opportunity to switch fields if they want to. Life is too short to waste on arbitary separation of work by gender, and we miss a lot of ideas and innovation if we don't consider everybody's thoughts. We need more women in construction and logistics and peace negotiations, we need more men in teaching, healthcare and at home. It's important to utilize everyone's strenghts. It would be also rewarding and healthy for society to enable more people to make things with their hands, and to farm and grow food, but that's a different topic.
Brits take note: this is a perfect example of a high IQ Finn writing fluently and intelligently in their 2nd or 3rd language
@@nigelwatson2750 I agree wholeheartedly with the comments raised. English is spoken so fluently worldwide these days, but not so much in the UK in my opinion. One of my many past occupations was preparing manuscripts for publication but these days I frequently find myself having to refer to modern dictionaries.
@@nigelwatson2750 I was in awe, too. The text is not only fluent, it is well structured , has a good rhythm and she describes the subject drom different angles. - Another female Finn.
Suomessa on edelleen vastustusta naisia kohtaan miesvaltaisilla aloilla, siksi niin moni nainen aloittaa oman yrityksen kommenttiketjussa mainitut ovat suurimmaksi osaksi yrittäjiä. Naisia on myös palokunnissa ja uutisiin on päätynyt infoa inhottavasta käytöksestä naisia kohtaan. Minä mietin pikkutyttönä poliisiksi ryhtymistä, totesin että olen liian lyhyt. Sittemmin mietin automekaanikkoa tai hitsaria. Perheen miesten mielestä olivat paskaisia ja huonosti palkattuja ammatteja. Nykyään olen sairaanhoitaja 😂
Yes. I live england two years 20 years a go. In chester. Many People understand me better than other english. I havent use english in 20 years but i still can do it. Like germany, sweden, russia, spain and thai, and i work in factory Basic level not high school or so... its normal now days that young children speak two, three language here
Excellent 😊 I’m a painter myself and I’ve worked in Iceland Denmark Norway and USA. You see a lot of this in the last 10 - 15 years or so, lots of young females doing this kind of work. It’s actually quite a high paying job and it’s creative and fun and it keeps you in shape if you do it right. Enjoy! 😉
I am a Finnish woman and one of my professions is a carpenter. I did that job for over 20 years. I don't find it strange at all.
Great - it's us Brits who are weird, not you!
Born in the 40s, I was put into commerce, but I took up building and other interests. At 70 I bought my first keyboard, but I'm still building and landscaping, as well as growing my own food. 😁 Isn't life great when we make it that way. Best to you from UK
And I'm a blacksmith and don't think it's strange at all.
I´m Finnish and for about 20 years we´we had these two girls doing all the interior painting. They started their business right after trade school and now both married with families ,continuing to do a exellent job.
Brilliant. Well done.
There are also husband and wife teams in the UK
Bananarama😂
I went to Halfords for new windscreen wipers. The guy who served me asked if i needed them fitted i said no i would manage .30min later i gave up and went back in the shop to get help. The assistant he called was a very attractive girl about 18yrs old, she had the wipers on in 2 minutes. Of course i expected a guy would sent to do the job. My excuse is old age as well.😃
My mates wife was Britain's first official lady plumber! Lorna Wright a Little borough Lass! From the dale!
Is The Rake still going in Littleborough?
@@nigelwatson2750 yes it is!
@@nigelwatson2750 yes it is! Did you ever go to the moor cock club further up?
In Britain you'd normally get Dangerous Dave arriving half an hour late, asking you for a cuppa, blocking your toilet with a big jobbie, taking two hours for lunch and leaving in the afternoon with his job unfinished.
And paint on your new wool carpet
"Big jobbie"!😂😂😂
Speaking as someone who has built an extension with their husband alone & also laid a huge block paved drive, I think it's brilliant that Finnish women can have these occupations so easily. There is something very satisfying about completing any kind of construction work & building maintenance. Many uk women love craft.....this is the same thing, just on a much bigger scale. 😊
English here. We not only built a house, but buildings for businesses as well. On retirement, I moved along with farm animals, husband on chemo, 90year old disabled mother to begin renovation of our present farmhouse. Twenty years on I'm still logging, fencing, mixing concrete in the old Parker mixer, and enjoyinying every waking hour. I rise at 5.30, same as I always did, and at nearly 77 I'm still making plans.
Forgot to say, I can also do dressmaking, crafts, and cook everything we eat.
There are many reasons why women shouldn't engage in heavy construction work, the female anatomy can be damaged irreversibly by heavy work.
@@andrewlilley3660 That also applies to fellas, my husband has hiatus hernia.
Thank you for your kind words about finnish women! I happen to be a finnish female which has worked all her life in jobs which are traditionally labeled as mens' work. I am a builder, a painter, a carpenter and a wood crafter also I have got some mechanics background. Atm I'm working at a logistics center driving a forklift and carrying heavy packages. When I first started my career path 30 years ago the attitude towards women in jobs like these were traditional just like what's happening in UK still nowadays.
Sometimes in the past it was very hard to get recognised as a valid productive worker because of my gender. I look very feminine I'm short only 165 cm tall and have got very long golden hair and my face is childlike even this age. But I never complained about anything and I did my work the best I could with extra precision and execution. My employers soon noticed that this girl does much better job than those lazy boys and men and said damn that girl/woman is strong and very good at her job. Hey, money talks even more for entrepreneurs than musty gender roles. You have to be worthy for your salary.
I'm so very glad for younger women that they have got their career choices more open nowadays.
I am a woman and in IT. I get to do software and hardware stuff, and physical installing with powertools. I consider myself feminine. It's usually not a problem for anyone but on occasion there's the one's who doubt your skills, but luckily it's rare. I enjoy my job very much 🎉
@@lamppuu1 It's strange that women are belittled in computing history and IT technology when the very first programmer was a woman (Ada Lovelace) and the first person to design a compiler was also a woman (Grace Hopper). Operators were mostly women too. Women dominated the field of IT especially programming until second world war ending. It changed when it was realised this could make a lot of money so men took over the jobs telling women haven't got brain or logical ability for this stuff 😵
In my field physical and crafty labor it's true that you need muscles and you need to be fit. But with modern tools and auxiliary and knowledge of ergonomy makes it easier to access many women and less fit men!
Funny story: My son when aged around 20 was with 3 mates dressed in Leaderhousen at the german xmas market in Leeds had too many steins and met some girls from Helsinki. They were so taken with them that they decided to fly to Finland straight away. Idea scuppered by 2 not able to find their passports. The other 2 actually got to the airport only to find their intended flight was full. It was december! The girls must have impressed them!
Were the two wearing Lederhosen at the airport as well ? Were they going to wear it in Finland ?
@@k.avilla8061 100% - in december!
Where is the funny part?
It looks so beautiful there.
It is
Must be rough to be a trophy husband Nigel! Funny story though, I took some car wheels to be blasted and painted a few days back. Turns out that the guy has three daughters who do work for him also and they paint houses among other things. I bet this stuff exists only in the sticks though...
Yes we treasure both months of the year when the weather is like this :D
I lived in Italy and China. In Italy, the way women were treated was crazy - almost like another species!
In China I looked so different, that the local limitations for women didn't mostly apply to me. Less disrespect, rules, derision, violence, lucky for me.
Thank you very much for this video ❤
This is what women do here in Finland 🇫🇮
I’m a happy Finnish woman and I’m proud of Finnish men that they allow us the freedom to fullfill ourselves 🙏🥰
In Finland, men know that it is to everyone’s benefit when women are equal with men in society and working life 👍🏼
Your video was refreshingly honest in what you have noticed about culture and about yourself.
As a Finnish female i couldnt help but smile a bit when you spoke about Finnish women getting pride on doing things themselves, as I recognized myself (my mother and sisters) from that :D
Hyvää Suomi!
In the north, you would marry a woman that could be your partner and take care of your house, children and properties together with you. It is a partnership.
Yeah, in the north we do not have any use for female just doodling around in pretty dresses and baking cup cakes. Here the husband goes and digs a ditch, meanwhile the wife goes do something that requires less physical strength like fixing the fence.
Being from Rochdale (it was somebody from Rochdale that taught me this expression) I am sure you are familiar with the term, "Bingo blouse" to describe a shirt - a chemise, if you will, generously unbuttoned at the neck adorning a voluptuous female form.
As in, "She's wearing a bingo blouse."
EYES DOWN FOR A FULL HOUSE
Boom! BOOM! In a Basil Brush fashion.
Very good, I enjoyed that
Do Rochdale women also have 'Bingo wings' ? 🤔
In finland painting is seen as quite feminine. The butch ones are in construction
Love it.
Haha you’re lucky my old school friend isn’t watching this. Nearly 6 ft, blonde, blue eyed and gorgeous, she threw in a successful career in the City to start her own painting and decorating business in London. She’d be after you with her with a pot of creosote for calling her a lazza 😂😂😂😂
There are exceptions, and hats off to your mate, but...........is she a real blond?
@@nigelwatson2750she was indeed. A bit grey now and still knocking it out the park and beating the men at their own decorating game
@@kaycee625 More power to you!
Interesting. I worked with a guy from Finland, Juuso Miguel, in aviation. On the surface, he acted rather dorky but was a big guy 6’2” and some 270 lbs .. but he was so much smarter than many of my American counterparts .. I was giving him a lift to eastern Washington state for work the day “bin Laden” the hyped scary phantom from that Sept day in 2002 and we stopped at a gas station and in big bold letters on the paper “ world is safer” was there . We both started laughing our butts off as we both knew it was all bs .. he just had to get the paper as it was so ridiculous . I was glad to have Juuso with me in Mexico for work as he spoke Finnish, English and Spanish quite well however he was totally unaware how dangerous it was in Mexico City and started making a scene at a restaurant about a flimsy chair and I had to scurry him out of there before a cartel member did something to both of us
Yes, the climate selective very heavily for intelligence and self-discipline in Finland, so it is no surprise that there's lots of small people about. You didn't get to survive in the 19th Century in Finland if you were dumb enough to eat your seed potatoes in March because you were hungry. Finns live in a high trust society that is very safe, and many DO make the mistake of assuming that other countries are as civilised as their koti maa
I´m pretty sure Nigel that back in the 80`s I fantasised about Bananarama painting my house.......
And why not?
In England if a girl expressed an interest in painting and decorating their teacher would persuade them to have gender reassignment
Yes, probably.
Proof?
Really? I find that hard to believe, if its true though that makes me really fucking mad , fuckin hell
My Wife's niece is one of those "treat me as a princess" types, so I no where you are coming from Nigel.
There are some in Finland, but they tend to be woke i*iots from the Uusimaa region
I am the one who always paints our house and the daughters have joined in over the years. I don't know of anyone else around here who does their painting. I'm the only one who looks after their garden as well.
Israeli women are also very empowered in the same way that Finnish women are. That's what I noticed when I lived there 40 years ago.
Always painted my own house. Large hillside garden, designed and landscaped by us, stone walls, everything.
@@jennywren8937 It's a job of love isn't it. So many have gardeners and cleaners. Status symbol.
@@jennywren8937 Good effort, now I feel guilty about having the 2nd floor of the house painted by the girls
@@nigelwatson2750 😊 Not at all Nigel, it's so good to hear they do it.
We do have women painters in UK 😂
Is it Spray tan then! 😅
Assumption is the mother of presumption Change your space change your mind Equity is not equality of opportunity Sounds like I need to learn Finnish and move to Finland bud lol Ain't too flexible meself! Bless your heart Nigel
Thanks, Robert. I was thinking about doing the job myself, but when I saw them doing it, and what was involved, I knew that I had made the right decision.
@@nigelwatson2750 I'm getting my patio done I used to love workin up a sweat in the sun but lookin at what is involved The graft would have knocked me flat on me bum which would not be fun
British are very conservative and old fashioned from our perspective.
Oletko sinä suomalainen?
@@nigelwatson2750 joo. Olen. Obviously 😁
For flexibility, try Yoga. It's Amazing! I've been practicing it for almost 17 years. It's knocked years off me as I'm not stressed or agitated 👏
Nigel
I am beginning to see more women in the building industry
Where I live there is a lot of new flats going up and I see few women on there
Anyway did the women make a good job painting your house?
They've been superb.
That's good to hear