After Forever on De Muziekfabriek (2003) - My Choice, Beneath, & Monolith of Doubt

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  • After Forever performing their songs "My Choice," "Beneath," and "Monolith of Doubt" on the L1 program De Muziekfabriek at the Alfa Brewery in Schinnen, Netherlands, on November 23, 2003
    (Note: the broadcast only shows a minute or so of Monolith of Doubt)
    This content was produced by L1 Limburg and can be found on their website at this location: l1.nl/muziekfabriek-classic-m...

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  • @Nikkopagani
    @Nikkopagani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    After forever, the band that deserved a concert high quality DVD with an orchestra. Theres almost just fan footage on internet 😓

    • @GalaxyKauri2008Offtopic
      @GalaxyKauri2008Offtopic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, they didn't even had a DVD :(
      When they have concerts that deserved had it: Lowlands 2007, Wacken 2004, Pinkpop 2004 or Rio de Janeiro 2006

  • @pietkeizer5279
    @pietkeizer5279 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I discovered this performance in 2023. But…..what a jewel. A young Floor so good here. What a treasure.

    • @lillianekockritz2796
      @lillianekockritz2796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me in 2024 - really a jewel! There should have been a recording of the whole concert (if it was one). And Floor's proud parents in the crowd made an extra. They really must be proud to have two such highly talented daughters (Floor's younger sister Irene decided to prefer family life but sometimes joins for example Arjen Lucassen's Ayreon).

  • @giselameyer2814
    @giselameyer2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    FLOOR the best female Singer of our Times..

  • @The_Pony
    @The_Pony 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    awww her parents in the audience look so so proud

    • @maxmattt
      @maxmattt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And you gotta love the little boy throwing the horns 🤘

  • @DanasLilMakeup
    @DanasLilMakeup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh to be 15 again... these songs marked my youth and some of the best yet most darkest days. My Choice was one of those songs I used to listen in those bad days and I still reach out to it when I feel down.

  • @lmbergamini
    @lmbergamini 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    she has evolved so much! Her technique is much more developed now. But still, she was already great back in the days. :D

    • @jazzysugar3777
      @jazzysugar3777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      L Bergamini she started on a very high level already

  • @reddrummaster
    @reddrummaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    haha great to see her mom and dad front row!! so dedicated

    • @kjvail
      @kjvail 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      OK, maybe. I think of the AF album Invisible Circles, which Floor wrote. It's a concept album about a little girl raised by horrible, selfish and abusive parents. I wonder where the inspiration came from

  • @AriaMohtadiHaghighi
    @AriaMohtadiHaghighi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Basically fell in love with Floor upon watching her perform with After Forever and then ReVamp. And then she of course became the legend that we know. Thanks for this upload.

  • @laudatosiadastra1218
    @laudatosiadastra1218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Floor has the most beautiful voice I have ever heard. If there was ever such thing as perfection, she is it :)

  • @revamp2010
    @revamp2010 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the music! I have never seen this before. XD

  • @fabianmoralesgt
    @fabianmoralesgt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how it sounds as she gets winded a little bit but never fails to hit the notes and makes necessary adjustments to pull it off. Phenomenal!

  • @alexandraagudelo8007
    @alexandraagudelo8007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How I miss After Forever. I love Floor's voice! Of course now I listen to her in Nightwish, but I would prefer her in After Forever

    • @remagine
      @remagine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same!

  • @JuliaDark
    @JuliaDark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wonderful!🤟

  • @cahh_azevedo
    @cahh_azevedo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    floor sempre foi maior que todas as bandas que participou
    a voz dessa mulher é a coisa mais perfeita do mundo

    • @ramontravis5191
      @ramontravis5191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i guess Im asking randomly but does anybody know of a way to log back into an Instagram account??
      I was dumb lost the account password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

    • @alessandroweston4868
      @alessandroweston4868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ramon Travis Instablaster :)

  • @maxmattt
    @maxmattt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The band sounded amazing, Floor sounded ( And looked 😍 ) amazing, what a performance, she really knows how to play for the camera, and Floor's parents in the audience looking so proud of their daughter.
    Shame it cuts out part way through Monolith Of Doubt.

  • @fredericenjalbert7664
    @fredericenjalbert7664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw them in Montpellier south of france in 2005..great memories ..floor went in the audience to see playin Nightmare a french band before them for a few minutes and after the show of her band to dedicate and to talk on the merchandising place .i still have my ticket with her autograph :)...really a beautiful and good person..she is so fantastic with nightwish

  • @EvMusic94
    @EvMusic94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    ha sido la mejor vocalista desde los 90, desde la misma época de Tarja, Anneke, Liv o vivikke, pero nunca fue valorada ni reconocida hasta su llegada a Nightwish.

  • @laurensrulkens4185
    @laurensrulkens4185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Still amazing After (Forever) 15 Years....

  • @ayelenmarcial
    @ayelenmarcial ปีที่แล้ว +6

    La mejor cantante del género!!!

  • @vasylr1538
    @vasylr1538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Floor, you are before, now and AFTER FOREVER!!!!

  • @mikinhalingeron
    @mikinhalingeron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! OH MY I MISS AFTER FOREVER SO MUCH! FLOOR HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO TALENTED AND MORE PEOPLE ARE FINALLY HAVING A CHANCE TO SEE THAT THANKS TO NIGHTWISH!

  • @eversonassuncao9153
    @eversonassuncao9153 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Floor sempre foi a mais incrível!!!

  • @eduardopicapiedra9696
    @eduardopicapiedra9696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nunca había escuchado Beneath en vivo me encanto !! rayos esas rolas me hacen sentir mucha nostalgia

  • @ferdinandt2060
    @ferdinandt2060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Floor é incrível! Não há outra cantora que mais me surpreende como ela. A banda é espetacular.

  • @ralfmeyer9086
    @ralfmeyer9086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg FLOOR so great with After Forever🤣🤗😊

  • @ferrenberg
    @ferrenberg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Floor is simply the best female singer of all time. And I don't say as it as a Nightwish fan. Although I like Nightwish and find the old songs with her much better, I prefer and love After Forever and ReVamp. Sadly the album Nightwish released with her was incredibly boring, but the live performance at Wacken 2013 is one of the best ever.

    • @AnUnhingedMind
      @AnUnhingedMind 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I think a lot of people would find this blasphemous to say, but I've always enjoyed After Forever much more than Nightwish. I also enjoy Floor Jansen's voice much more than Tarja. Tarja and Nightwish are clearly very talented and have both respectively made incredible music over the years. However, there was something about After Forever's music that I found a lot more mature and versatile; versatile is a word I would use to sum up Floor's voice as well. I absolutely agree with you that Endless Forms Most Beautiful was nowhere near as powerful as it potentially could've been. It felt as if they played it way too safe with Floor's voice and focused too much on making her sound "pretty" than really letting loose like she clearly has the potential to do.

    • @ferrenberg
      @ferrenberg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      AnUnhingedMind it's not blasphemous at all. After Forever had its own fanbase since their first album, which they released the around the same time Nightwish released their debut.
      Both bands always shared significant part of their fans, although they were - in my opinion - different, mostly because they are/were different bands.
      Ever since I heard Follow in the Cry many years ago, they have been one of my favorite bands. After they broke up, most fans were happy with new Epica albums, the closest thing to After Forever for obvious reasons.
      And like you said, Floor is the best. Since the first After Forever album, and she only progressed to the best - in my opinion - female vocalist ever. She's much better than Tarja and Simone Simons (I like both too), and that's one of the reasons I found her album with Nightwish boring.
      The songs in that album are good, and would've been better with Floor being Floor. We as After Forever fans already knew what she could do, I think that's why most of us don't give a damn about Endless Forms.

    • @scw55
      @scw55 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AnUnhingedMind that said, personally Endless Forms Most Beautiful is my favourite album. I agree they could have given her more to do. At least their live shows give that.

    • @liricobarroco
      @liricobarroco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Vinícius Ferrenberg I prefer After forever too, because Tuomas can’t make songs for Floor voice, listen her singing AF she’s amazing! She goes high and beautiful low ❤️

    • @ralfmeyer9086
      @ralfmeyer9086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@liricobarroco yes i absoluy agree..

  • @addhoc256
    @addhoc256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The internet arrived just in time for symphonic rock. Within Tempation and After Forever were completely ignored on meanstream media: it was too far out of the box for them.( It must have taken a lot of guts to stay true to this quirky style.) Rock bands were the first to embrace youtube completely, and also rock magazines and interviews started as soon as everyone had some kind of internet connection. And this music was always lend out in the music library: there was a waitinglist. and people making copies because we didnt have money to buy it so 1 person would copy and that person had many more friend all of a suddon. If you were a guy and you wanted a date you would give her a copy of a 'girl metal' cd of symphonic metal. / I have never seen a band so full of the kind of talent that could so easily been turned into something commercial - and they just didnt. They could easily just record an easy listening song with 4x4 verse and hook chorus: but no they had to not follow any mold and make as many unlogical twists and tune changes as possible and have lyrics about morals and so. (But the thing was: after you had heard monolyth of doubt you couldnt go back to normal music anymore. I didnt like the unnessesary complexity, but it did produce the best songs and you got used to it. Its an acquired taste. Instead of punk (oversimplified songs ) this was overly complexified made so that you could never just repeat it after hearing it a few time : it was a kind of punk i guess into the other side of the spectrum: against mainstream.

    • @waltersauerwein8619
      @waltersauerwein8619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm on my husband's account and I'm a 55 year old woman. I've been listening to symphonic rock/metal opera since 2005 and have never understood why it's not more popular especially in the United States. None of my friends or family like it. I think it's absolutely perfect music and singing besides some songs having guys 'growling;' I can't stand that; they sound like Satan. Lol. This genre didn't have to grow on me in the least; I loved it from the very first time I heard it and that band happened to be Nightwish. Which of course Floor is now the lead singer of. I loved how she sang more operatic in her previous bands and so wish she would do that more in NW. I think Floor has the most beautiful voice ever of anyone, hands down.
      I've always loved orchestras, rock, metal, and opera so when it's all combined I'm in absolute heaven! I've discovered so many of these bands and buy new CDs which I know is old-fashioned but I love listening to music that way and I want to support the bands financially. Yes, thank goodness for the Internet or I may have never heard this genre before. Even though it's been in my head most of my life!

    • @jannezxzoerden5810
      @jannezxzoerden5810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Walter Sauerwein y

    • @jannezxzoerden5810
      @jannezxzoerden5810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes!!!

    • @jannezxzoerden5810
      @jannezxzoerden5810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Walter Sauerwein wrong!

    • @jannezxzoerden5810
      @jannezxzoerden5810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!!!

  • @liricobarroco
    @liricobarroco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They were amazing band doom gothic metal band, I hope Thomas make better vocal parts for Floor in the new cd, because the last it’s too easy to sing for her!
    Well it’s great to have After forever entire discography on Spotify

  • @celioazevedoofficial
    @celioazevedoofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Floor gorgeous!

  • @Catgirl6Poezebeest
    @Catgirl6Poezebeest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    @5:47 Hahaha, that's me! Great memories!!

    • @ddddenn5856
      @ddddenn5856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This girl is somewhat similar to the one from the video My Choice

    • @wagnerjunior6524
      @wagnerjunior6524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucky you.

  • @ciroheadbanger2008
    @ciroheadbanger2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brazil Netherlands 2021 someone?

  • @sporella
    @sporella 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    😭 thanks!!!!

  • @isaflechas
    @isaflechas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching in 2020. Is not just a floor fan since 2003... her hair flows that way naturally 🤣 🤘

  • @tonyelsom6382
    @tonyelsom6382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ahh..those Abba eyes...very 70's. Floor sounds amazing here....NW should really make use of that wonderful, flexible, not to mention powerful voice even more than they do currently...

  • @Jeremias-zq3um
    @Jeremias-zq3um 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it not the choosing that makes the life we live so intricate?
    Are the options we have too endless to control?
    Can we oversee the offers and their demands and their goals?
    Can we oversee our own needs if we do not know
    What it is we really want?
    Our minds, instead of our hearts
    What we feel confuses our thoughts
    Security, an ancient quest
    Standing alone, the ultimate test
    Still we search for warmth in the materialized luxuries in life
    The times have changed but we are still the same
    Another choice 'cause we still don't know
    Let me see where I belong
    Let me be a little part of it
    Can I choose my way in life?
    Can I dream, can I feel, could I know my choice?
    A choice without the illusion that luck is for sale
    'cause I have all that money can buy
    A choice means freedom
    And endless options
    Can we survey that?
    Can freedom be controlled?
    The option's bitter
    It leaves a part of you behind the borders of your choice
    Let me see where I belong
    Let me be a little part of it
    Can I choose my way in life?
    Can I dream, can I feel, could I know my choice?
    Let me see where I belong
    Let me be a little part of it
    Can I choose my way in life?
    Can I dream, can I feel, could I know my choice?

  • @gabbrielviera
    @gabbrielviera 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    that was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @remagine
    @remagine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Haha she was about to end My Choice a lil earlier... still amazing omg

    • @danyhimura
      @danyhimura 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha! nice one!

  • @leonardobalbino8482
    @leonardobalbino8482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Saudades dessa Floor ♥️

    • @anapaula.almeida
      @anapaula.almeida 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eu sempre digo que ela na After Forever e Revamp é espetacular.

    • @cahe151
      @cahe151 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sim, não gosto de nada dela no Nightwish.

  • @YkcirL
    @YkcirL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saudades

  • @carlaraiele2469
    @carlaraiele2469 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    perfeita bons tempos

  • @johnsoma6485
    @johnsoma6485 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ha Ha Ha and Floor's mom at 7:52!!!

  • @KalvinEllis
    @KalvinEllis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:12 The definition of "raising them right".

  • @FutileGrief
    @FutileGrief 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I FUCKING LOVE YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UPLOADING!!!!!

    • @pastelmetal8111
      @pastelmetal8111  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ThatOnePerson No problem! :) I love this performance so much - wish I could have gotten it to upload in 480p instead of 360p, but for some reason TH-cam refused.

  • @fabiorogers9817
    @fabiorogers9817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Floor Jansen.

  • @madddog6790
    @madddog6790 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah, the (in)famous catsuit :) wubba wubba

  • @remagine
    @remagine ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss this Floor

  • @spacepirate9882
    @spacepirate9882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:05 The smiling while the background lyrics are so serious is so weird lol

  • @yuribotello3170
    @yuribotello3170 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    PQ MATARAM MINHA FLOOR?

  • @monsieurclaudesac1545
    @monsieurclaudesac1545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:11 kleine baas

  • @roniboy
    @roniboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Como assim interromperam Monolith na melhor parte.... Broxante!!! Mas o vídeo é maravilhoso!!

  • @yenyfercarapiapuebla8450
    @yenyfercarapiapuebla8450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ese aire no le hace daño a su garganta al cantar ?

  • @ItaloErionn
    @ItaloErionn 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cortou na melhor parte? mds no

  • @johnsoma6485
    @johnsoma6485 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At 5:48 is that Floor's dad?

  • @powskier
    @powskier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never understood why these bands don't play in their native language. This concert is obviously in Europe.

    • @juyifan7933
      @juyifan7933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Metal is a niche community, but it is global. Many metal bands make more success outside their country than within. Making music in english is the standard for metal, with a few notable exceptions. The reason is obvious, you dont want to reach just the little metal audience in your country, you want to reach the entire global metal community.
      For instance After Forever wasn't very well known in the netherlands, where metal is not at all popular. They had however quite decent audience in Latin America. They also had some audience in Nordic countries, where the genre of Symphonic Metal is reasonably popular.

    • @powskier
      @powskier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juyifan7933 Makes sense.

  • @Dhaos620
    @Dhaos620 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guitarist went to Épica afterwards, didn't he?

    • @maxmattt
      @maxmattt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He had already left, I think.

  • @corneliusantonius3108
    @corneliusantonius3108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Insert Marcel Fisser Band = Succes

  • @barbatosmikazuki4250
    @barbatosmikazuki4250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I prefer Floor at Af and Revamp than at NW
    I never heard Nw album with floor as the vocalis

    • @pietkeizer5279
      @pietkeizer5279 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You should do, it’s great

  • @SASTORM
    @SASTORM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why da f*** did they edit the video in one of their best songs?
    great times, great band, Floor is too good for today´s NW

  • @mundoinformatica9796
    @mundoinformatica9796 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    unfortunately in live it does not have the same force as the subject of study expected those high register of voice but very weak voice

  • @JeanetteEvanFan
    @JeanetteEvanFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ¿Me parece o escucho la voz cansada de Floor?¿Alguien más escucha lo mismo?

  • @marchon2578
    @marchon2578 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    fLOOR BEFORE SHE JOINED NW AND BECAME POP DIVA

    • @maxmattt
      @maxmattt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ok troll

    • @marchon2578
      @marchon2578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxmattt ... i'd rather be a "troll " than a slavish Tuomas' s cult zombie...how do you like Floor's headbanging in the new mood setting/folk styling , flute toting , pop band formerly known as Nightcrap..oh sorry Nightwish ...the two names are so synonymous...its just sad

    • @giselameyer2814
      @giselameyer2814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      troll

    • @marchon2578
      @marchon2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @SteveNL ...Tarja used a very low, mezzo register until roughly 2003, at which time she assumed a higher timbre..yet when called for such as on kinslayer, end of all hope, 10th man down, pharaoh sails to orion, wishmaster, deep silent complete, sleeping sun etc...she came through beatifully...in 2005, GLS in Tarja era was calculated by Tuomas to be a softer, blending higher register delivery..check out Tarja in Kinslayer, wishmaster, planet hell, slaying the dreamer for much more punding delivery...Floor was a beast in AF and REvamp and to great extent in wacken 2013, but then she just became mainstream on most Tarja songs..and can you honestly tell me that on the last two albums her voice is even close to metallic?