SlingMods Can-AM Ryker 3 Piece SaddleBag: A Discovered Problem
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2020
- Hi,
This is a video about an issue I have discovered since owning the 3 Piece Luggage System for the Can-AM Ryker 900 ACE. I still enjoy the utility of the saddlebags, but tune into my video to discover the issue. Please consider subscribing too. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You. - บันเทิง
Very good video explaining the problem, which many are having. The Ryker is really a single person ride. It wasnt designed to carry passengers and cargo, without at least a shock/suspension upgrade, that should tell people something. Don't believe the salesman, he'll say anything to get your deposit on a unit. On one of the forums, someone even asked about towing a trailer with the Ryker, give me a break. The Ryker is more compact, lower, lighter, faster, and more agile and maneuverable than the Spyders. Therefor it had to trade off some of the heavier duty abilities that the Spyders have, to achieve its sportyness and handling characteristics that it has. All of which makes it such a fun machine. If people want to ride two up often, and or carry luggage while riding two up, or doing long distance touring, the Spyder is a much better and more suited machine for those duties. Lets face it, Americans are known as the fattest people in the world now. The 900 has a limit of 449 lbs, and the Rally edition I believe a little less. Add some luggage for solo (single rider) touring and you're good. Two people and some luggage, not so good without putting some money into upgrades and modifications.
So True. If my 13 year old desires to ride with me more often, I will definitely upgrade the shocks. If she's not interested, I'll keep the existing shocks.
The rally shock still not going to cut it. I had the same issue and the only thing that either is replacing the rear shock with ELKA shock. Call them and they will custom fabricate to your weight, passenger weight , and riding style. You can have a mechanic or dealer install for you. I installed myself but was a pain to do it. Check out also bill ramsyer channel he has an install video. The additional length of the rear makes it a longer “lever” and changes the fulcrum a bit so you will bottom out . Install that ELKA shock snd you will be good to go! But it’s a shame slingmods does not warn you because many people are having the same issue!
Thank you for the info.
What Elka stage shock did you get 3 or 4?
I have the stage 4
Loved the information 👍 I have a 2021 Ryker 600 ACE and I'm looking to make a few upgrades and modifications to my ryker as well.
Fit an elka stage 4 shock that will fix the problem
Late to the party but this was so helpful thank you
I have the same problem. I used a one sided sticky foam to cover the bars of the luggage rack...it helps
Thanks for sharing what happened.
Thank you for watching my video.
I didn't know that. That's useful information.
Thank you for watching my video.
The only real solution is a longer shock or a rear lift which simply adds a few inches to the top shock mount. People have made their own but I'm hoping someone puts one on the market asap.
I have a 2020 Ryker Rally edition and have my spring nut adjusted as far as it will go. Plus shock set on 4...I also have a slingmods rack with givi 47 liter case. An I still bottom out on some bumps/dips
I am looking to upgrade grade the rear shock to a Stage 4 or 5 Elka shock... They have a capacity of 485-500lbs and better travel to prevent bottoming out.
I will add that I weigh 279 pounds, the slingmods rack and case add 30lbs.. Problem is that 1" square steel support tube for rack (same as your rack) takes away from rear distance to fender. It just sucks.
Yes that square steel support is the problem. Please let me know if do upgrade to a Stage 4 or 5 Elka and if it works for your Rally.
Just to give you an idea of suspension setup I have M2 shocks on my F3s Daytona Spyder. My rear shock is setup to only lower 1" with me once I sit on the seat. Can Am missed the mark on spring setup on these bykes. You could get what you want from a higher rated spring from a company like HyperCo or Eibach and add it to your stock shot. M2 makes a shock for the ryker as well, but with covid there may be delays.
Slingmod has 3 inch lift for that.. Worth getting!
It's possible you need a more progressive Spring. That would be the 1st thing that I do and the cheapest before looking into a new shock...manufactures should make different Springs with different spring rates for their bikes but they usually ship them with what they consider be the average. Call the manufacturer and see if they have more progressive springs for their bikes.
Good heads up with that video.
I had the same issue. Actually wore a channel in my fender and tire! Bought an elka stage 4 and seems to be much better. Expensive though.
Yes, I'm looking at getting an elka stage 4 also. Did you install it yourself or let the dealership do it?
@@CeeDeeLight I’m NOT a mechanic so I had the dealership do it and even they said they struggled. Elka had (prob still does) a major backlog so it took me over 10 weeks just to get it after I ordered it directly from them.
Good info for the situation on two-up. If the rear shock is maxed out for tension, you may have to consider the shock that comes on the Rally. That shock is expensive in my opinion but it’s better for adjusting tension.
I asked the dealer about the 2up spring but they couldn’t give me a straight answer if the spring would work and I didn’t want to spend on the spring and install to only find out it doesn’t work so I went with Elka. The rally spring is more expensive than Elka and isn’t as good so Elka is the way to go from what everyone tells me.
You need to get the 2UP spring, which provides more lift and carrying capacity than the standard spring at maximum adjustment.
Is it in the can am website or on slingmods
Put a Strip of 2 inch Velcro tape the length of the middle of the fender. Looks OK and solves Your problem
Hi.. I bought the bags for my husband and I rode on the back. It burned all the way thrive the fender. He called the company and they are saying it's not an issue... If you get somewhere with this.. Can you please contact me. It was so bad that it was burning! They should've thought about this before selling it!
Dang! I had to upgrade my rear shock. The company was no help.
@@CeeDeeLight... Yes, we kindly showed a video of both of us on it ( less than 400 pounds) & on the highest level of 4. As soon as I sat on the bike, it went almost all the way down... I bounced on it a little and it hit the fender! They are trying to say its out fault!!!!! 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ Crazy. They didn't think about the design and for it to be almost $900 they need to FIX the issue!!!!!! I'm super upset about it.
I have a similar problem with 2up weight bottoming out the seat and damaging my fender. I’ve ordered an Elka stage 3 rear shock for my Ryker. They custom make it for you or your weight specifications. I can’t officially confirm that fixed the problem because I’m waiting to receive my shock. It’s like a 2 month waiting period and I should be receiving it any day now and will be happy to confirm if that stopped the bottoming out.
Yes, let me know if it works for you. I appreciate it.
Did you get your Elka stage 3 shock yet? if so, how did it work out for you. Did it stop the bottoming out?
@@CeeDeeLight Hi! Yes, I received my shock toward the beginning of November, but one thing has lead to another and I haven’t gotten around to installing it. I definitely plan to install it this month. And will let you know the results. I can say the shock has a great quality look and finish and the manufacturer assured me it will resolve my problem, but I do need to see it work with my own eyes before I can confirm. The shock actually looks different than the photos. When I ordered I expected the adjustment container to be attacked to the shock but i was pleasantly surprised to see that it comes like the stage 4/5 or rally shock with the container separate connected by the small hose. I will definitely message you once I install. I can send you photos/video if you’re curious and want to see the product.
@@greygow5984 Thank you.
Good info sis, new sub here
Thanks for subbing!
Not sure how much the Ella shocks costs but also look into the 2 up shocks I hear Can Am sells might be a bit cheaper and may work.
Ok Thx. I checked those stage 5 Elka shocks, which was suggested, They are $950. I'm good- I'll figure out another option. I have to try a diy first b/f spending that much $$.
@@CeeDeeLight 2 up rear springs from can am is $70 might do the trick. This is the one I was talking about.
@@RideAboutNow This I can do. Thx.
@@CeeDeeLight Stage 4 is all you need. If your going to ride with any weight in all in those bags regularly or another person, its well worth the upgrade. Since your going to have to to take the shock out to replace the spring anyway. The rear should be just under $700 and worth every penny.
That's right ... Jesus saves !!
Nice ride
You need that 3 inch lift kit
Can you show it without the rear bag. I want to use the side bags for speakers, but I want to see the look first
Yes, I will try to get a video up about this. If you do use the side bags for the speakers, you must do a video. I would love to see it :-)
@@CeeDeeLight will do
@@dabo1971 th-cam.com/video/w24TSGgbsF4/w-d-xo.html
From the look from the rear. Honestly, rubber padding or protection on your ryker
I ended up putting a rubber type padding up there and eventually upgraded the rear shock too.
Is the bracket adjustable.
No, it's not adjustable.
So if two people together weigh about 300,would this still be a problem you think?
Yes, if you have the saddle bags from sling mods.
@@CeeDeeLight thank you,hmm so they really don’t hold much at all without bottoming out on fender then…
May have to go with a spyder then..Don’t really want to,double the price lol.
I installed our GIVI Topcase "over" the maxmount because there is no space under it if you are full loaded - no chance if you use the closed fender of the 900 - we use the FOX on the back in the hardest possible position and we still bottoming out because of 2 nuts under the max mount .. but its easy to change for me now.. th-cam.com/video/yj5xzeyHToM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing. That is a brilliant idea.
stock shocks aren't meant for two up. why you need the upgrade shocks. the bags only add an additional 50lbs all together.
I ride my daughter with me and the bags have an install bar that adds about an inch in diameter and when I hit a bump with her and I on it, the shock compresses, causing the bar to hit in the rear fender and put dings in it.
@@CeeDeeLight yeah i saw that in video. too bad they didn't put that bar up top and used flat steel instead. or even used flat steel on bottom where that bar is now.
If you want clean that scratch..use a heat gun but slowly and not too close and its gonna come all black again !!
You need a bigger rear shock
Get a lighter husband 😂
My Ryker Rally has same problem too. 😥
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Get an ELKA Stage 3 and up shock..
Yes I'm looking into it. Just didn't know if I should go with stage 3 or 4. I just need something that will support about 400 lbs. Weight+things I carry in saddle bags. Do you know if a stage 3 will do that?
449lb weight limit with both riders and gear
Yes-agreed. My daughter and I don't exceed that weight limit. Part of the issue was the bar for the aftermarket saddle bags. It's about a 1'inch square diameter and that was hitting the fender when we ride. Sometimes if I rode by myself and hit a bump in the road, it would still hit the fender with the stock shock. It's not an issue now with the Elka Stage 4 rear shock installed. Also, the ride is so much smoother.
Stock shocks are bad 😞
I agree100 percent.
Too heavy for the shock
Yep, ended up getting an Elka. I have an install video too.