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- Hey what's going on everybody, it is GullYY here. Today, I will be showing you some common mistakes that new Polytopia players make, and what you can do to fix them. Fixing these mistakes is essential to improving your Polytopia skills. I hope you enjoy!
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Video Name: Polytopia - Common Beginner Mistakes (And How to Fix Them!)
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Hey guys! I made a follow-up video where I delve into even more common beginner mistakes I see new Polytopia players make! I recommend giving that one a watch after viewing this one!
Link: th-cam.com/video/3exsZ55QxOs/w-d-xo.html
love ur vids i love polytopia found the game when i was on my moms phone when i was 4 or 5 lol
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I use the one that starts with climbing and go strait for mind bender upgrade to make the tech tree less expensive, should I contine doing this?
I think another common mistake is to capture new city before learning a new technology. This is better done in the opposite order, since city capture increases technology costs
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Yeah I agree with this. The first 3 games I played I made this mistake but after that I learned why I always never had enough for navigation.
I Take 3 Cities Then Stick To Those Cities And Play Tall Till I Research All Techs For A Much Lower Price.
Then I Expand Like Crazy
it's pretty sad that all the crazy bots i fought in a creative infinity spam 10hp units (excluding daggers)
its a literal training mission for knights and my very expensive giant battleship armada
@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 thats still expensive 3 Cities?!
Another tip is to hold down on the enemy that you are about to attack.
Two numbers will appear above the attacker(you) and the defender(enemy's troop).
Those numbers of course mean how much damage each of them takes after you hit them and they retaliate. If you see a skull and dripping sweat that means your attack defeats them or you get defeated after attacking. Generally, dont attack defenders close range until the final hit.
Also, just an add on. I believe if you pick the recover option for any troop that is within any of your city borders, they heal for 4 but only heal for 2 outside the city borders.
Shhhh
good tips,
A bit late, but no, they heal progressively more as turns go, I've found
First heal does 2, second does 3 and third does 4
@@ocnarf40 wait really? that's a cool feature I never noticed. I guess people rarely bother to heal outside of border
I just realized that. It's prolly because they die because healing outside the border is slower but that could help on specific positional situations@@channelname7105
I played polytopia since it was called super tribes. Anyone who remember? This list is pretty good and covers much common beginner mistakes. One point I have to say is, it's sometimes bad to spend to much stars on Techs in the early game on medium and big maps. Over spending could hinder the expansion and the leveling of new cities.
About the last point you said, I still do this sometimes. It's really hard to choose if you should spend a lot on getting that one tech, or if you wanna focus on troups that turn. Sometimes I spend a lot to get like 2 techs, and end up with no turns to summon new troups.
@@BS-bd4xo Sometimes it's worth it to rush certain technologies, but this is really map depending and on relatively open maps it's often better to go for units. On archipelago a rush to a certain technology could be very important. It also depends on the tribe you are playing, for example Ai-mo where you want to this philosophy early in the game so you can start snowballing together with the temple of peace. In contrast to Ai-mo is Yadakk, as Yadakk it's way more important to spend stars in the early game on units and roads, cuz as Yadakk your strongest weapon is rapid early game expansion. The third group are tribes like Zebasi, they don't need to spend stars on Techs that are for economic growth in the early game, cuz they have farms wich gives two pop. So you can level up more lvl 1cities reliable since you need only one tech wich is farming and only one resource tile wich should be the farm, so they can go for a little bit more expensive expansion, with like riders.
I played polytopia since there were 4 tribes available. But I didn’t remember it calling super tribes 🧐
@@GoblinSlayer8009Polytopia was originaly released as Super Tribes in 2016. Also there always were at least 5 tribes to choose from.
@@masterboy3077 it was long time ago, I sure don’t remember much. I think I was in 5th grade at the time
i think this is pretty accurate. I started playing battle of polytopia around 7-10 months ago and i think ive had some of the mistakes here when i first started. keep up the good work GullYY
Thank you!
Me too, mostly the city-wall-one 😂
Yeah my friend has almost the full potential to beat me consistently. He just uses city walls and swordsmen instead of customs houses and battleships, kind of.
I DID NOT KNOW YOU COULD HOLD THE END TURN BUTTON TO SEE WHAT TROOPS STILL HAVEN’T MOVED, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT INFO!
Chopping forests excessively can also backfire. I usually keep forests around and only chop them if I necessarily need extra stars. If you're playing Bardur, Hoodrick or any tribe with lots of trees, lumber huts will bring you far. Lastly, forests act as speed bump for enemy units
Yes! Forests are especially helpful when the enemy is spaming knights
Maybe not so much a beginner tip, but don't discount healing and the "free" heal after you kill 3 enemies. Very often you can stretch your units much farther if you plan correctly
Sometimes players may want to get border growth as soon as possible and overlook uncaptured villages nearby. Border growthing near a village may steal its natural land and resources, giving the new city a smaller border and fewer resources than it should. I think this lines up with leveling up cities in the right order but it also encourages border growthing cities in the center of your territory to avoid this mistake.
this can also be used offensively. one time I was going to capture a city dangerously close to my opponent's capital so they expanded borders to prevent me from getting a giant
here's a common mistake: expanding your city's border when there is a unclaimed village nearby
Poor unclaimed villages with no tiles left...
Unless a opponent is claiming it
I think you need to address troup interactions. IE attacking and getting countered. It may be difficult for new players to understand
Ive ben playing this game for 5years now and ive learned from my mistakes (and from gullYY when i asked him for help) but when i just started playing I thought knights where OP because of their chain attack ability. Me and my friends just spammed them and the person with the best economy would win. This is a mistake I see a lot of new players make so my tip would be: knights arent OP so stop spamming them. Theyre easily countered by swordsmen and if your opponent knows you have knight he wont put his units next to each other which also renders them useless.
having one at the back of your army doesn't hurt, because then your opponent won't be able to detect it. I think the biggest advantage to knights is when you put them with roads, they have insane movement. This is useful when I'm trying to take out other quickly on perfection because i can bring them from all over my empire to bear on one walled city in one turn
I mostly mix knights with swordsmen and sometimes 1 or 2 catapults. Thry are still strong units but glass cannons. You should use them to kill their units while your swordsmen capture the cities
A horde of knights can be easily countered by a smaller horde of knights. Knights have also been nerfed in the recent update
_[laughs in 5 tile movement]_
I start by making as many treaty’s as possible. Then I can focus on only a few at a time. Before ending the treaty. I send as many cloaks behind enemy lines positioned to cause chaos once the fight starts.
Build up a defense line of giants shields and sword man. Place artillery right behind while leaving gaps in between them so if any knight breaks through it can’t chain attack.
Have several knights reserved in the back and on the flanks ready to sweep in on premade roads to take advantage of any existing chains. Prep chains of vulnerable enemies with artillery and selective attack before sending a knight in.
This strategy works great for mostly dry maps. Another note creating a solid wall across your boarder helps keep cloaks from getting behind your lines. Always keep 1-2 swordsman by every city to avoid cloaks taking the city while invisible
ayyy im glad you’re uploading again! I binge watched all your videos when I found your channel a couple months ago lol :D keep up the good work!
Hey will do, thanks for watching!
This is why I like this guy! He’s one of the few TH-camrs who plays with their fans (often) I had fun playing with him. (Even tho I got completely destroyed)
I think the fourth point ( City Wall ) is kinda debated, as in Water World map, the Shield and Swordman would get a lot defense. You would need three battleships to just kill a single of them, and thus it is pretty useful when you're facing against naval superiority ( Enemy dominates the water ). Also not to mention a boat can't deal a damage to a full-health Shield with a city wall.
This is just an opinion of mine who played a lot in the Water World map. Feel free to commentates my opinion, and I might reply too.
As a long playing Polytopian, I must advise the early access to meditation and the pacifist monument. As the game progresses, it becomes harder to play 5 turns without attacking. Therefore tribes like Xin-Xi and Ai-Mo should get a head start as they can get it within a turn. Additionally, getting climbing can be a good way to scout out your surroundings in early game.
I really think the riding and roads point just wasn't emphasized enough. It really is a must-have tech that you need in just about every situation. Riders should be the bread and butter of your army, and roads are just a must for effective attacking. Without roads, your opponent will have no problem outflanking you and winning a battle of efficiency. Additionally, roads let you get an earlier giant by getting tons of population on your capital.
Also kickoo drylands good smh >:(
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are you from discord lol
@@RedOctober_ quite possibly
Drylands and lakes are the only map types where Kickoo sucks, whereas they dominate on continents, archipelago and waterworld. On the latter, the one who spams the most battleships wins
@@miliba kickoo is just fine on both drylands and lakes. Keep in mind they can upgrade their capital on turn 0 so they just simply have an eco advantage compared to those who can't. This, combined with their solid terrain, offsets their need for extra techs in the early game.
This is so accurate and so good.
I have been playing polytopia for like half a decade or so, but never I heard anyone concisely bringing out beginner mistakes and lay it out like this video. Hopefully these tips can improve my gameplay which even though I can be called a veteran of this game, I dont really improve that much since I first played this years ago.
Kudos Gully 👍
#8 using wrong troops in specific situations. Polytopia is like rock paper scissors. Swordsmen counter knights but die to catapults. Knights counter catapults but die to swordsmen. Catapults counter swordsmen but die to knights. This is a general rule which applies to other troops which are similar to one of these three. Of course there are some exceptions but it mostly works. Please don't spam raiders aganst vengir.
Haha yeah that actually makes sense.
Btw, you can knight chain knights now...
if you have all three units its the best
Raider spam against Vengir is pretty effective early game
I just downloaded Polytopia a couple of weeks ago, I used to have a while back but never got into it. This time I've really gotten into it and am pretty good at early game but I get a little stressed out in mid game. I searched for videos on it and you're channel is basically the only one covering I appreciate the hell out of the commitment and effort you put into these videos, they are incredibly helpful.
Say my warrior meets an enemy warrior as i move. Logic says i should attack right? Wrong!
If i attack, me and the enemy will go down to 5 hp each. And on their next turn they will ko my unit.
By letting the enemy attack first, we'll both drop to 5 hp and i can kill their warrior on next turn
elon made me got here, like
the Biggest mistake is not watching this Gamer
Trueeeee
great video! i already send this to one of my friends who is a beginner, this will help her a lot.
only i think one more common mistake beginners make is attacking an enemy unit as soon as they see it regardless if they can finish killing that unit at the same turn(this is mostly common mistake early game) it is better to not attack the enemy unit and let them attack you so you can kill that unit next turn.
Also a common mistake beginners make is ignoring the defence bonus stats on mountains and in forests( if enemy has them)
Pls explain I see why not to always rush attacking a unit. But why let it attack you. Especially if three are no other need by units
Bro I wish I knew about the unmoved unit finder the amount of time I’ve wasted scrolling around my 900-tile map is unbelievable
Top 10 anime mistakes
#1: Denying Yădakk's Peace Treaty
@@GullYYGamer 😳
@@GullYYGamer good luck! (I added one bot) shouldn’t be much of a difference
@@epikdoge1322 good luck!
@@GullYYGamer not with the highest hopes
Hey it's my favorite polytopia TH-camr! Keep it up man!
Will do, thank you gamer
Loving the tips! I’m ready to try this out in polytopia, but I wonder how this new update will affect gameplay?
Basically, he had to hold himself back from saying "Chop your forests!!" Cuz that is now totally nerfed.
@@BS-bd4xo Now It's Burn Them Down, *Turn Them To Ashes* So That You Can Make Many Farms
I've played around 4 years and was still making a few of these mistakes, thanks :D
Tip for polaris players: prioritise roads and giants over basivally anything else, the trading tech with the ice bank can land you +30 the moment you get it if you habe enoughfrozen tiles
I had no idea other people actually played this game! I have been playing mostly offline since around the time illyrion or however you actually type it was added. This is really cool!
Damn, diplomacy update is out! Amazing!
Wooooo!!
Hey everybody! I am new at poly. I bought one vengir to play online with a friend and some day I realize I use the free Google pass 1 month to buy all tribus. Now I am trying to learn with them all but it's a bit too much hahaha, really enjoy ai mo (rush the upgrade that discount everything 33%) and elrion, dragon are OP, unless it's a shib battle I realize. Tnx for made this video for begginers, it really helps me ^^
You have raised alot of valid points. Although I do question hardly getting the city wall tho. It's true, choosing resources definitely helps you expand faster, but what I notice is that when a tribe doesn't have many city walls, it actually makes them a hell lot easier to invade. My guess is that with the resources strategy, you're going for more aggressive gameplay and I'd like to think it really depends on you and your tribes playstyle. However, that advice is still worth noting as again, you have raised strategic points as to picking resources. Just wanted to bring up my point as well.
Even as a mediocre player, these tips are really helpful! Awesome video! 👌
Hey, glad I could help!
I had a start on an island with only 2 villages, one of them being my starting one. By the time I finally got off, the rest of the world was having WWII sized conflicts with dozens of boats across the water.
LMAO
Hey gullYY,this game bring me memory.I play this game in 2016-2022
I've been looking for a new guide on getting highscore with Bardur, or any tribe tbh, but there's so many updates, I presume fundamentals are the same, but the updates have changed dynamics of some things a decent bit, a run through for a top 100 tribe score would be nice to see a video on :)
Gully has been really helpful, I've been playing Polytopia for 2 years and discovered many expansion techniques because of him, and keeping in mind that 2 level 3 cities is better than 1 level 6 city.
I mean GULLYY, sorry for the wrong name.
Happy I can help out 😄
Love Polytopia, never thought there could be a TH-camr making these vids! Keep it up :D
I've started using walls on 3rd city upgrades a lot more now, since the diplomacy upgrade as it's really the best way to resist the pesky riot mini troops
I think this is the first time I have found something useful in a tips and tricks video.
imma add a thing from my gameplay, so my favorite tribe is xin xi, and i start with moving my troops to get the nearest town/tribe then research mining, then capture the town, and train troops, so the idea is that, in xin xi, if you get a mountain near you, you can just wait for 3 or 4 turns then you can get a mine that will give you two population instantly. Therefore, you can have troops beforehand and will be ready for the swordsman
Honestly, the most surprising thing to me is that people don't research riding and roads. They are such evidently good perks, as they move you toward getting knights once you have the stars of it, roads provide great support to slow units and riders can be a great unit early game, with their 2 movement and decent attack power, as well as dash.
Nice.
Good to see this become so popular.
Ok so basically I've been playing this game for like since 2019,when the Polaris update came. It was a fun game and it's just too unfair there aren't many popular TH-camrs making a video about this. I fought countless battles, matches and years of experience. I agree with your tips, also another strategy tip for people, this one's simple but when your city is under siege, if possible as a last resort, upgrade your city to spawn a super unit.
These were helpful, cheers!
How to get the highest possible score in Perfection ..
Wooden temples. Turns 19, 22, 25, 28 are essential to build temples, how many enemies to choose, and which difficulty to play.
i just find this video and your chanell and its really helpful, i have been play like 2 years already in Mobile version, and this video actually help me a lot LOL
Very nice and clear video, keep it up!
i remember playing this game a while ago, never new it was still growing. cool
I didnt know about polytopia youtubers, cool
New sub 🧐🤙
I thought i would more heavily relate to this video but apparently i am better then I thought. Also welcome back
at about 2:15, you never mentioned that you had lumber huts, so any new or inexperienced people would only know to hunt the game in . kinda confused me a bit there and i've been playing for years lol
ROADS CAN BE BUILT ON UNCAPTURED LANDS AS WELL. Great for flanking enemies, reaching ruins quicker, and escape routes.
Capturing cities is crucial in the beginning, I would argue to make a second unit, otherwise a rider opponent can load up on cities early and just overwhelm you with greater unit count.
Hey gullyy good to see you back! Do you think you will ever play minecraft survival again on the channel?
This is solid advice and good tips. Good job man.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the advice this video is really helpful! 👍
Just what i needed for the new update!
Another useful tip is that you can bump an enemy out of your city by recruiting a giant/dragon/etc there (upgrading to level 5 or higher and choosing super unit).
1:49 this might have a misconception of "upgrade your big cities first", i think. It should be emphasised to upgrade whichever gives you the most impact. Usually, this would mean levelling a city to level 3, as this is one of the ways to earn stars after your turn has begun, which might net extra possibilities that were not there before.
Great game and great channel ! Thanks !
Having fun on this game. Found out about it because Elon Musk shouted it out as the best strategy game out right now.
I think the tip about turn one is a bit more subtle. I agree that the capitol should be upgraded, if there are only one or two edges that you can send a unit to. If you have 3 or 4 traversable edges, you should create a second unit and upgrade on turn 2. This costs you 2 stars, but it is super valuable for finding cities and relics quickly in the early game.
No, always get the capital upgraded first turn if you can, this means you get more stars in the long run, and those 2 extra can snowball a long way!
Yeah I try to capture a city when I can unless I'm focusing on some tech or something else. But having a good army combined with even a few cloaks can do so well.
i also surround my enemy with ships and usually plan my attacks before declaring war but i conclude that the meditation tech i always get first cause of cheaper tech upgrades i reaserch next is the strategy and the other one so i can declare peace on everyone
and not attacking immediately i will improve my economy to increase my chances of taking huge upgrades..
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Wow!Very good!When can I get a new cashed version of polytopia?)😅
i have done all the those mistakes... THANKS!
It's important to know when to puck population growth over border growth. I dont exactly know how to explain it properly other than to say "do the math" but its good to know
I use a strategy when I'm in late game if a city of mine is about to be captured and theres no way to kill the enemy I upgrade the city and spawn the giant which automatically kicks the enemy out
i now good strategy for xin-xi
go to the mountain. explore more territories, and use the second character to capture territories. train a total of 5 characters and then philosophy
I played polytopia because I was recommended by a friend who wanted additional games, when I asked if there were any mobile legends, he said there weren't any (neither did I) then I answered "we are one team" then he recommended this, after I tried it, at first it was difficult, when he explained , I know, thanks my friend, anyway, he also recommended "that level again" but it's easier to play this wkwk
I agree with most of the tips here but I think having walls in cornerstone cities (near enemy borders) is essential because it helps stall against attacks
Hi Gully, I wanted to ask, I am really struggling late game (I have all tribes but Luxidoor). Despite playing for a while, I'm pretty bad so any tips would be appreciated. I originally played when there was only aquarion as the only special tribe and recently came back and bought the 3 other special tribes.
1 Get a good navi with giants in battleships. Shields in boats is the cheapest with 15 health.
2 Costume houses. Expensive to set up, but will give you as much stars as a freaking city! They are essential in late game (and perfection btw).
You should keep your army numbers large and steady once you reach late game. It gets easy after you defeat a few tribes and have conquered a corner region because then you can use those freed up units to outflank the remaining tribes
What are costume houses?
I have played the game in only 1 way peacefully so riding self doesn't help that mutch but the stuff you can unlock after you unlock riding plus you need it for genuis taskbtw how do I get the 6th task?
Dang why didn’t this video exist 4 years ago 😆.
This just made me want to say something. As Kickoo, you can make around 200 per turn and on a good day and a massive map, 350.
Disagree, regardless of tribe first turn produce a second unit, takes at least 3 turns to get 2nd city. Upgrade 2nd turn
Ay yo gullyy q&a question, can u do another q&a?
Getting extra stars or city wall depends on how your opponent plays.
If your opponent rushes through, it is best to get city wall to buy some time.
I always pick city walls as an upgrade since I mostly go late game with lots of battleships and a lot of stars.
Good to know.
What’s the intern button
I have no more tribes haha, but I will work to buy them and follow their advice.
Btw I have a technique in polytopia.
If a enemy is capturing my base I will upgrade the city if it is lvl 5 and become lvl 6 and it will summon A giant to stop the enemy to capture the base
Я играю в Политопию с тех пор, когда в ней был минимум племён, и это видео не оказалось для меня полезным, но я рад, что по этой замечательной игре вообще делают видео. Для меня стала интересна новая, а на самом деле улучшенная механика дипломатии, новые посольства позволяют делать быстрые звёзды и быструю разведку в начале игры для Quetzali, потому в первых ходах можно пренебречь развитием столицы.
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i found this game when i went on vacation to the philippines back in like 2016 because i can play with no connection and i redownloaded it last month and im addicted again lol. i play so much i can easily beat 5 opponents on hard mode i usually play as vengir or bardur, im gonna try playing on crazy mode
3:36 What I do is upgrade the city then get the philosophy tech and get all techs before capturing any city
number 8 never decline cymantis peace treaty
Thanks
I tend to buy the technolgy that make everything cheaper first ( and you can spawn the preacher( sorry dont know the names ) ) with the preacher i turn for my side the enemys that aproach at the beggining ( more advance units can killme , and even capture a few cities turning the protector units ) and using them at the beggining then upgrading as a priotiry all cities to expand. After i have philosofy everything is cheaper and it costs you 2 or 3 turns at the beggining
Mind bender is meh. They're really weak and can easily be avoided by simply not going near it
As someone who has put way too many hours on polytopia I can give you what I personally think is the only rule you should follow. If you follow this one simple trick you will rule literally any game. Don't waste stars by participating in wars. Just get the tech to grow trees, burn forests, and make farms. Literally. Like that's all you have to do. Placing farms on every tile of your empire, planning the perfect setup for windmills, adding mines and smithy's where needed, any empty mountains with temples, all coast tiles with ports and any ocean tiles with temples. That's how you min max the stars you get. Farms are the most efficient way to upgrade. I don't go for roads and riders first ever. I go for chivalry cus knights are op ASF, farms, and then the tech to grow forests.
I like setting up two or three cities at level 2 and 2/3. Then the next turn you can upgrade all of them just using two stars and then getting 5 stars each. It's a nice way to generate a huge bank roll in one shot early in the game. It's sometimes difficult to do. It's usually easy to do if you are expanding to an empty corner. You can leave them at 2 and 2/3 until you need the stars.
that has no benefit because you don't lose stars each turn. getting 5 stars now vs later is no different so always upgrade fully for getting stars per turn.
@@d.l.7416 It works well to buy tech at cheaper prices. If a surprise invasion shows up you can cash them in and defend/counter-attack.
tech prices are irrelevant, you aren't buying tech its just a choice of upgrade city now, or upgrade it later. If a suprise invasion shows up you can have the stars from levelling up already. you don't lose stars at the end of a turn so there's no reason not to upgrade.
there are two scenarios:
upgrade now:
+ gain one star per turn
+ gain 5 stars
upgrade later:
- miss out on the stars per turn
+ gain 5 stars
so you should always upgrade immediately
For me, shields are S-tier in the early game, they're durable as fuck and can, if speed with archers, prove lethal.
I also remember one game where I captured a city next to a one block wide river, only to have enemies on the otherside of said river. For 8 turns I repeatedly respawned defenders while selecting city wall for once, it was a tough fight to hold that river while I built a bigger navy to combat enemy boats, it was basically a large rush of endless boats vs 6-8 of battleships on my side: I could easily kill, but I had to select carefully who to shoot
I didnt even know this community had youtubers wowza :D
I partially disagree with 5. In contested areas I like to keep the city (if it's at least lvl 4) one population away because if they take that city I can kick them out with the giant I summon
I agree with most of the tips except the wall, you get more use out of it than 5 stars with the 4x defence
Oumaji gang✊🏻
Can’t wait to use these against the 3 other people that play this game
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