Thank you for this. David is a hero to so many of us nerds. I'm glad to hear from the man himself. Lots of good questions were asked, much appreciated.
You all prolly dont care at all but does anyone know a way to get back into an Instagram account? I was stupid lost the password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me.
@Jasiah Maverick thanks so much for your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process now. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@@slobrat3556 Grey and gray are two different spellings of the same word. Gray is more common in the U.S., while grey is more common in other English-speaking countries. In proper names-like Earl Grey tea and the unit Gray, among others-the spelling stays the same, and they need to be memorized.
@@robertgreen2518 he literally took the time in the video to say how he spells it dude :( nobody's asking for a lecture on regional spelling variations
@@seedmole I did not have time to watch the entire video. My response was simply a cut and paste of google to show other countries spell things differently to the States.
@@robertgreen2518 and what do you think Graybeard is if not a proper noun? Pro tip, if you're going to be pedantic, it helps a lot to make sure you're correct first.
This was an amazing interview. I didn't even realize that 2 hours went by because I was so into the Q&A. Thank you to David and you Ziz for being able to coordinate this.
David, you are a living legend. Im thankful every day for the work you have done, and 20 years later my children play your games. True True talent and thank you for the memories and moments.
I think this is my first TH-cam comment? Excellent work Ziz. You did a great job listening when he was speaking and not talking over him. As for David..... The dude is so insanely cool. His marriage went south because of D2, but in the greater scheme of things, that game is what helped so many people throughout their lives, even to this day. Great job again, thanks David if you read this (you rock, keep rocking on) and I look forward to the future!
Honestly it was fixed a few months in, but the press (wich had more power back then) and the public never gave a 2nd chance to hellgate, sad story indeed
@@johnmerritt5351 It was busted even after that. I continued to play it for about a year out of sheer fun, but it was a choppy mess and a bugfest the entire time. Also, Marvel Heroes was great and I loved the selection, but let's be honest, Brevik hasn't released anything that's stood the test of time since D2.
damn yes i really liked the base idea of the game and kinda had fun. but yes the bugs ruined it for me and i think i never went back to it. but its a game i am still thinking of all those years later.
at around 28:00 when David talks about how development teams can impact a product really hit home for me. I'm glad that he clarified that many of the original developers did not work on D3, and it really shows. Putting constraints on people really hinders them from being more creative.
Such a great video, I've watched his GDC talk about the first Diablo. Super fun to get to hear a lot more, both about that and his takes on topics of the industry etc.
I loved this interview, David is super chill and super easy to approach. Just a dude loving games. Their twitch streams are also always super fun to watch and chat with them.
I grew up on Mount Diablo St. named after the same mountain. Prolly played 5000+ hours of diablo on that street lol. Basically just made that house 1000x cooler.
I struggle to watch a lot of 20 minute youtube videos but I sat through all of this (while playing Last Epoch on my other screen) but that says a lot about how engaged I was. And probably how much of a loot addiction I have too. Please do this again sometime. :p
This was a great interview! David was amazing, taking even the difficult questions head-on. There was a refreshing lack of sugar-coating when he lined out what it means to make your own game and the issue of crunch. He really is one of the greats and I wish him the best for his current and future projects! Well done Ziz, even if you didn't come up with most of the questions it's palpable that your interviewees are comfortable talking to you.
@@tec5412 To be fair, it'd be extremely hard to top Diablo 2. That game literally printed (and still prints) money for the developers. It's kind of like Psy's Gangnum Style, that song will most likely be his most famous track of his entire career. Plus, if he's still getting any sort of royalties from Diablo 2 sales, then he wouldn't need to do anything else for the rest of his life. He's pretty much set financially.
Playing Nioh 2 over here while watching this, and I love how much the different topics apply in that game. Great interview, props to David Brevik for all he's done for RPGs and whatnot.
Wow Ziz, to interview THE legend that is David Brevik !!! I would have been nerding out and probably stuttering over my words. Total fanboi of this godly dev.
holy shit NBA Jam? That game was so fun and way outside the RPG arena. This guy knows how to make good ass games. really interesting stuff, it sounds like his start is similar to Richard Garriott's. Basically, he made a game and printed a label for a disc selling it in local computer shops. What a time to be alive
I would give my left ass cheek to have David Brevik come back to work on a prequel to D1 where Acts 1-4 take place just before the events of D1, and as you progress in the game you get closer and closer to Tristram...The expansion would be Act 5 and would be a 100% remake of D1... I'm a little tired of sequels...I want them to take the series back to its roots where you play a more "realistic" and humanized character instead of an OP descendant of angels/demons. I liked it way better when you were just a person fighting the minions of hell.
i had really top good moments on my life playing D1 on PS1 with my friend and killing vaal with my tri-element sorcerer during hours on D2. You made lot of people to have really good times. Thank you David!! :3
@@TheCooderix So? He said it was difficult not impossible, and if he said that, that doesn't change anything, they can ask hey what do you think of this change or how can we adapt this feature to a 2021 or what do you think people will react to this change, bla bla bla, it's not about him developing the actual remaster, it's just a consultant role.
@@miguelfg93 He has been terrible critical of Blizzard for a long time now. He's basically the embodiment of the "Don't you guys have phones" quote. I don't think he wants anything to do with blizz, nor do I think he should. What's next? we should consult Max Schaefer? Ye, bet he can bring a lot to the project considering he made the masterpiece that was "Torchlight 3" /s.
One of the best ones yet. I personally would have liked to have heard more on his thoughts about modern arpg's. Just means I was well entertained to be asking for more.
1:42:16 - That whole idea is amazing. Maybe not bloody body parts, but having item from monsters that you salvage or use. Grim Dawn has a sorta similar system with monster infrequents. Such as a Dermapteran Slicer. You only get it from killing these certain bugs and it's basically a sword fashion from their stinger. Also I'd say a thrilling and on the end of your seat turn based game that might live up to Turn based D1 is Darkest Dungeon. I don't think I've ever been on the edge of my seat as much playing any other game. Losing a lvl 4 or 5 char I've grown attached to if I play this turn wrong... or losing all the loot and trinkets if they all die. I wonder if David has ever played that game
Really solid interview with so many good questions. In light of recent events, I would love to ask David, if the Diablo IP suddenly came up for sale, would he be interested in buying them?
"There are 4,000 games released every week across all platforms. The odds of a big breakout game are like winning the lottery." How are we not seeing an industry crash?
This man had a hand in 7 of my top 10 fav games when I was a kid. If only he had helped with Final Fantasy, and secret of mana... huge respect for his body if work!
That was great. I've heard his Diablo creation story a few times. From interviews and with him lecturing. It's a cool story. It was also interesting to hear his take on crunch time. Never knew it played a toll on his marriage during Diablo 2 - with him working 16 hour days, every day for how many months? It's unclear if he's still married to her, or on his 2nd wife. I must have missed what he said. Not that it's any of my business. But I think that aspect of it is an important warning about doing too much crunch time and how damaging it can be to people. Anyways, thank you!
The more open immersive world for Diablo 2 "battle net town" sounds amazing. He really should consult with D2 remastered team to make that happen!! Also he should consult with Diablo 2 remastered to make New content for the remaster. An act 6 and 7 maybe. A couple of more characters and some new features and items etc. Do it Brevik!!! :-) It's your baby!
Hey Ziz, do you still have the source for this Tyrian 2000 remake lying around? Could be fun to put it on Github on a public repo and see if people will do anything interesting with it. Tyrian was a legendary game!
"Diablo fills a neglected niche in the computer game market. As games today substitude gameplay with multimedia extravaganzas, and strive towards needless scale and complexity, [...]" from the original Diablo pitch document. So true still today.
David Breviks transfer of the Alternate Advancement system in everquest to Marvel Heros Omega levels.... i wish he would add that aspect to an actual major player rpg of the future
i prefer these type of games on controller now ;p ever since i tried poe on xbox series lol i think imma stick to console for my arpg fix its so fun to move around with analog instead of click to move ,also great interview just wanted to say this hahaha
Hellgate London's flop was a very sad moment from my childhood. I remember often hearing that it was the next big thing beside Diablo. I believe there was an early demo that I enjoyed. I eventually got the full game, and online play was unsupported almost immediately. You could see a ton of potential in the game, but can also see how stale the game was the longer it went on. You can really tell that the companies involved ran out of money to support the game. I would have loved to see a Hellagate London that was fully supported.
I have a question guys im pretty new to poe and i followed a build from path of exile builds (the youtube channel) and a lot of people told me that theyre pretty trash is that true ? Or are they viable and my friends just werent right ... im kinda confused because it is sich a big channel which wouldnt makes snese to me if the builds are bs Have a nice day ^^
Their base builds are decent but they're rushed and often overlook a lot of things that you'd find from someone who spends hours and hours on a single build
The game he created? He should be giving credit to his team too. Because let's be honest, without Chris Metzen and others, Diablo 2 wouldn't be the legend it is.
actually in the first iteration of lod those ' enslaved' that could be transformed into suicide bombs(worldstone kep act 5) actually did insane dmg but for some reason they nerfed them in the following patches. I guess they were too unfair or something ( just like iron maiden in chaos sanctuary)
Where to find David Brevik at:
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/thejunglequeen
Website: www.graybeardgames.com/
Twitter: twitter.com/davidbrevik
Thank you for this. David is a hero to so many of us nerds. I'm glad to hear from the man himself. Lots of good questions were asked, much appreciated.
You all prolly dont care at all but does anyone know a way to get back into an Instagram account?
I was stupid lost the password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me.
@Rylan Kody Instablaster :)
@Jasiah Maverick thanks so much for your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process now.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@Jasiah Maverick It worked and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thank you so much you saved my ass!
Really happy for you Ziz, that's a career landmark, interviewing the legend himself. Love it!
Mad Respect for Greybeard
Gray with an A lol.
@@slobrat3556 Grey and gray are two different spellings of the same word. Gray is more common in the U.S., while grey is more common in other English-speaking countries. In proper names-like Earl Grey tea and the unit Gray, among others-the spelling stays the same, and they need to be memorized.
@@robertgreen2518 he literally took the time in the video to say how he spells it dude :( nobody's asking for a lecture on regional spelling variations
@@seedmole I did not have time to watch the entire video. My response was simply a cut and paste of google to show other countries spell things differently to the States.
@@robertgreen2518 and what do you think Graybeard is if not a proper noun? Pro tip, if you're going to be pedantic, it helps a lot to make sure you're correct first.
This was an amazing interview. I didn't even realize that 2 hours went by because I was so into the Q&A. Thank you to David and you Ziz for being able to coordinate this.
David, you are a living legend. Im thankful every day for the work you have done, and 20 years later my children play your games. True True talent and thank you for the memories and moments.
I think this is my first TH-cam comment? Excellent work Ziz. You did a great job listening when he was speaking and not talking over him. As for David..... The dude is so insanely cool. His marriage went south because of D2, but in the greater scheme of things, that game is what helped so many people throughout their lives, even to this day. Great job again, thanks David if you read this (you rock, keep rocking on) and I look forward to the future!
The hellgate london story is sad. I really enjoyed that game even though it was buggy as hell. It had a lot of potential.
Honestly it was fixed a few months in, but the press (wich had more power back then) and the public never gave a 2nd chance to hellgate, sad story indeed
@@johnmerritt5351 It was busted even after that. I continued to play it for about a year out of sheer fun, but it was a choppy mess and a bugfest the entire time. Also, Marvel Heroes was great and I loved the selection, but let's be honest, Brevik hasn't released anything that's stood the test of time since D2.
damn yes i really liked the base idea of the game and kinda had fun. but yes the bugs ruined it for me and i think i never went back to it. but its a game i am still thinking of all those years later.
@@AvatarOfPerdition Agreed, but to be fair, that's an insanely hard standard to meet.
@@AvatarOfPerdition I don't know how on earth he could be the GOAT of pc Games... def would be an insane feat
at around 28:00 when David talks about how development teams can impact a product really hit home for me. I'm glad that he clarified that many of the original developers did not work on D3, and it really shows. Putting constraints on people really hinders them from being more creative.
This guys just mentioned 4 masterpieces he worked on in the first seconds of the interview, thanks for all the work you have done.
dude has made some of my most favourite games ever
had no idea he worked on nba jam and justice league back on genesis, that's freakin cool
Thanks for the video Zizaran and David. It was great catching up and seeing this legendary interview
Such a great video, I've watched his GDC talk about the first Diablo. Super fun to get to hear a lot more, both about that and his takes on topics of the industry etc.
I loved this interview, David is super chill and super easy to approach.
Just a dude loving games.
Their twitch streams are also always super fun to watch and chat with them.
1:01:08
The moment we've all waiting for hahaha.
Thanks for the amazing interview! :)
I grew up on Mount Diablo St. named after the same mountain. Prolly played 5000+ hours of diablo on that street lol. Basically just made that house 1000x cooler.
Ziz, this is so awesome. Almost 2 hours! Brevik is one of my favorite people ever outside of family and close friends.
Hell yeah, the interview went well and David seems like a behemoth in the community. Great job to both of you!
I struggle to watch a lot of 20 minute youtube videos but I sat through all of this (while playing Last Epoch on my other screen) but that says a lot about how engaged I was. And probably how much of a loot addiction I have too. Please do this again sometime. :p
I love this! I love David really down to earth dude. Thank you for doing this ziz!
This was a great interview! David was amazing, taking even the difficult questions head-on. There was a refreshing lack of sugar-coating when he lined out what it means to make your own game and the issue of crunch. He really is one of the greats and I wish him the best for his current and future projects!
Well done Ziz, even if you didn't come up with most of the questions it's palpable that your interviewees are comfortable talking to you.
dude is literally a living legend
He's an alcoholic has been. Has done nothing note worthy since diablo 2. 20 years ago.
@@tec5412 no need to be so toxic bro.
@@tec5412
To be fair, it'd be extremely hard to top Diablo 2. That game literally printed (and still prints) money for the developers. It's kind of like Psy's Gangnum Style, that song will most likely be his most famous track of his entire career.
Plus, if he's still getting any sort of royalties from Diablo 2 sales, then he wouldn't need to do anything else for the rest of his life. He's pretty much set financially.
@@tec5412 So drinking once or twice a week makes you an alcoholic? Are you a fucking Mormon? lol...
@@tec5412 how do you know what he is doing in his free time?
Playing Nioh 2 over here while watching this, and I love how much the different topics apply in that game. Great interview, props to David Brevik for all he's done for RPGs and whatnot.
Just the prospect of David making a new RPG makes me moist. Love you and Dave creator of one of my favorite video games of all time!
This was a well done and insightful interview. Good job Ziz and Chat with the questions! :D
Wow Ziz, to interview THE legend that is David Brevik !!! I would have been nerding out and probably stuttering over my words. Total fanboi of this godly dev.
awesome interview. enjoyed 100% of it.
First Krip now David, stop Ziz youre spoiling me nothing but admiration for the legends.
@zizaran what a cool guy to interview :) bet it felt cool. Was awesome to meet you and him at Exilecon feels so long ago now we need another one :)
holy shit NBA Jam? That game was so fun and way outside the RPG arena. This guy knows how to make good ass games.
really interesting stuff, it sounds like his start is similar to Richard Garriott's. Basically, he made a game and printed a label for a disc selling it in local computer shops. What a time to be alive
hell ya NBA jam is one of the best genesis games period.
BOOOMSHAKALAKA
Oh my God, David Brevik sent me into a full winter soldier flashback with that pirates of the dark waters throwback.
I never stopped wishing David Brevik back to work with Blizzard making future Diablo games since Blizzard North was defunct in 2005.
I would give my left ass cheek to have David Brevik come back to work on a prequel to D1 where Acts 1-4 take place just before the events of D1, and as you progress in the game you get closer and closer to Tristram...The expansion would be Act 5 and would be a 100% remake of D1...
I'm a little tired of sequels...I want them to take the series back to its roots where you play a more "realistic" and humanized character instead of an OP descendant of angels/demons. I liked it way better when you were just a person fighting the minions of hell.
Blizzard North must have had a great working climate during David's tenure.
They had their own office. It was pretty cozy until the last 4-6 months before release deadlines.
What a fantastic interview Ziz!! you have a knack for this .. hope to see more such sessions in future !!
Cant wait for d2 remasteeer!!!! Ty for that great game, David!
Wow, I learned a lot from this. Really amazing interview!
What a legend! The grandfather of all modern ARPGs. Diablo 2 is still my favorite game 20 years later!
i had really top good moments on my life playing D1 on PS1 with my friend and killing vaal with my tri-element sorcerer during hours on D2.
You made lot of people to have really good times.
Thank you David!! :3
i was listening to the podcast for 20 minutes, fully expecting it to end soon but thankfully its almost 2 hours XD Really interesting so far.
David Brevik is a legend.
yeah
still missing marvel heroes, one of my all time favo games to played, had like 40+ maxed out chars.
Zizaran is enjoyable to listen. He cares for the interviewee and the audience.
Kinda dissapointing that Blizzard didn't approach him even as a consultant for the remake.
Why? He was the one who said it wasn't possible to remake.
It's not a remake.
Vicarious is doing really well so far with it so it doesn't matter. Just need to fix some of the class's faces, like Amazon.
@@TheCooderix So? He said it was difficult not impossible, and if he said that, that doesn't change anything, they can ask hey what do you think of this change or how can we adapt this feature to a 2021 or what do you think people will react to this change, bla bla bla, it's not about him developing the actual remaster, it's just a consultant role.
@@miguelfg93 He has been terrible critical of Blizzard for a long time now. He's basically the embodiment of the "Don't you guys have phones" quote. I don't think he wants anything to do with blizz, nor do I think he should.
What's next? we should consult Max Schaefer? Ye, bet he can bring a lot to the project considering he made the masterpiece that was "Torchlight 3" /s.
this is golden, thanks to both ziz and david
One of the best ones yet. I personally would have liked to have heard more on his thoughts about modern arpg's. Just means I was well entertained to be asking for more.
1:42:16 - That whole idea is amazing. Maybe not bloody body parts, but having item from monsters that you salvage or use. Grim Dawn has a sorta similar system with monster infrequents. Such as a Dermapteran Slicer. You only get it from killing these certain bugs and it's basically a sword fashion from their stinger. Also I'd say a thrilling and on the end of your seat turn based game that might live up to Turn based D1 is Darkest Dungeon. I don't think I've ever been on the edge of my seat as much playing any other game. Losing a lvl 4 or 5 char I've grown attached to if I play this turn wrong... or losing all the loot and trinkets if they all die. I wonder if David has ever played that game
Great stuff!
Amazing! Thanks to both of you for this great interview/talk!
Really solid interview with so many good questions.
In light of recent events, I would love to ask David, if the Diablo IP suddenly came up for sale, would he be interested in buying them?
"There are 4,000 games released every week across all platforms. The odds of a big breakout game are like winning the lottery."
How are we not seeing an industry crash?
Because probably 99% of those are sole-proprietorship indie devs.
@@cannonpalms4249 Many are 1 man regurgitated asset garbage. Not 4000 quality games.
Can you make another guide to How to craft perfect weapons for Blade Blast Chieftain?
What a nice surprise this was. ty ziz, ty david!
This man had a hand in 7 of my top 10 fav games when I was a kid. If only he had helped with Final Fantasy, and secret of mana... huge respect for his body if work!
Are you my brother?
Hm, what games? I was under the impression his only claim the fame was Diablo 2.
@@Fitsuuu u also forgot theres the first one and his football game that started it all. Fuck my age is showing. Lmao
@@Fitsuuu Diablo, NBA Jam.
This guy is a God for gamin! wow! I played a lot of his game!
This is so impressive! thank for such a cool interview!!
great questions by chat ! good job guys
That was great. I've heard his Diablo creation story a few times. From interviews and with him lecturing. It's a cool story. It was also interesting to hear his take on crunch time. Never knew it played a toll on his marriage during Diablo 2 - with him working 16 hour days, every day for how many months? It's unclear if he's still married to her, or on his 2nd wife. I must have missed what he said. Not that it's any of my business. But I think that aspect of it is an important warning about doing too much crunch time and how damaging it can be to people. Anyways, thank you!
that was awesome. ziz, you are the man! currently playing a SSFHC character in poe thanks to you.
The more open immersive world for Diablo 2 "battle net town" sounds amazing. He really should consult with D2 remastered team to make that happen!!
Also he should consult with Diablo 2 remastered to make New content for the remaster. An act 6 and 7 maybe. A couple of more characters and some new features and items etc.
Do it Brevik!!! :-) It's your baby!
Oh man, Hellgate London, what a blast from the past to even hear the name of it.
Great AMA session!
GGG needs to hire this dude. Hellgate, Lotro, ddo, and of course diablo are all games I've played that really impacted my life - loved them all!
Thats awesome! Thanks Ziz for the content
My pleasure!
This guy is just a legend!! Mad Respect
Amazing developer. Really puts into perspective how much work goes into these projects. I doubt activison-blizzard has people like him around anymore.
Whoa. The arrows stick to monsters?
Still remember playing Hellgate:London back in the days!
It Lurks Below is actually an incredible game. i've played it previously and im doing another playthrough right now waiting for PoEs new league.
Super enjoyable AMA. great work ZIZ.
Hey Ziz, do you still have the source for this Tyrian 2000 remake lying around? Could be fun to put it on Github on a public repo and see if people will do anything interesting with it. Tyrian was a legendary game!
Anyone else thought this was Adam Savage in the Thumbnail?
My favorite pizza is Peperoni and Pineapple so I love David even more now!
Mr Brevik diablo and diablo 2 are for me the games of my life. Thanks
2h ama with Legend?
> daaamn Ziz thats all you need to say!
marvel heroes was awesome. I'm sad that it went down.
some ones got to bring it back with a private server like old expacs for wow
@@dusty_reaper96 I would pay a large amount of money to be able to play Marvel Heroes before they nerfed the game for consoles again.
I enjoyed playing it more than POE because it was so relaxing with no death penalty.
@@dusty_reaper96 Where can I find that?
@@buffydaslaya There isnt one yet sadly :(
Absolute Legend!
Find Matt Uelmen and interview him next! It would be the PERFECT compliment to this interview.
"Diablo fills a neglected niche in the computer game market. As games today substitude gameplay with multimedia extravaganzas, and strive towards needless scale and complexity, [...]"
from the original Diablo pitch document. So true still today.
love that u did this, he is a great dude
I enjoyed Hellgate London. Still have my copy.
Hellgate London.... I LOVED this game!
Timestaps Would be great (:
He mentioned roguelikes! Nethack and Adom
holy shit this took forever to air
So what do you think about crunch?
I am Crunch.
Lily episode when?
25:25 At least this nickname is better than current Half-Expansion Mike xD Although I hope ManaWorks
would do some awesome games.
Is he working on a game that we can look forward to?
This turned out really well. Good questions, we got a lot out of him. 👍
What do you mean by “randomness” that is Diablo
This was awesome, thanks =)
As many have said, great interview! The time flew by, I didn't realize it was 2 hours until it was almost over. Lets see more of this!
David Breviks transfer of the Alternate Advancement system in everquest to Marvel Heros Omega levels.... i wish he would add that aspect to an actual major player rpg of the future
i prefer these type of games on controller now ;p ever since i tried poe on xbox series lol i think imma stick to console for my arpg fix its so fun to move around with analog instead of click to move ,also great interview just wanted to say this hahaha
Hellgate London's flop was a very sad moment from my childhood. I remember often hearing that it was the next big thing beside Diablo. I believe there was an early demo that I enjoyed. I eventually got the full game, and online play was unsupported almost immediately. You could see a ton of potential in the game, but can also see how stale the game was the longer it went on. You can really tell that the companies involved ran out of money to support the game. I would have loved to see a Hellagate London that was fully supported.
I wonder how many coders my age started out with game listings in home computer magazines.
The bitter 1 hit wonder legend! Wonder if he'll ever make something good again
I have a question guys im pretty new to poe and i followed a build from path of exile builds (the youtube channel) and a lot of people told me that theyre pretty trash is that true ? Or are they viable and my friends just werent right ... im kinda confused because it is sich a big channel which wouldnt makes snese to me if the builds are bs
Have a nice day ^^
Their base builds are decent but they're rushed and often overlook a lot of things that you'd find from someone who spends hours and hours on a single build
39:11 makes me sad too... marvel heroes was one of my favourite games, annoying that you can't even play it anymore even offline or without updates.
Man I tried to teach myself how to program via Python since ppl say it's easier to start out. LOL i find it actually really hard alone
The game he created? He should be giving credit to his team too. Because let's be honest, without Chris Metzen and others, Diablo 2 wouldn't be the legend it is.
Stygian Dolls: the *OG* volatile bloods XD
actually in the first iteration of lod those ' enslaved' that could be transformed into suicide bombs(worldstone kep act 5) actually did insane dmg but for some reason they nerfed them in the following patches. I guess they were too unfair or something ( just like iron maiden in chaos sanctuary)
@@jeanninedemaeseneer1060 I noticed that they barely do damage anymore. Was wondering if I just remembered the game wrong but I guess not.
DAVID IS A LEGEND WOOOOOOOHOOO