Outstanding video and great work by your truck guys and all department to stop this fire. Not sure where the safety officer is that should be there making sure firefighters are being safe and wearing gear and things like that but I’m glad you stepped up to the plate and told the guy to put on his coat everyone goes home that’s a goal for all of us to remember.
this has got to be the most inefficient and poorly trained career depts I have ever seen. A guy on the ladder with no coat on! Guy off the truck no pack on! People in the house without masks! Unbelievable. Glad I don't work or live there. Surprised they don't have More LODD than they do.
These arent highlight videos. These videos are for training purposes, not to show off. Mistakes can and do happen on the fireground and being able to watch these videos afterwards, and see what we would or could have done differently or better is more helpful than just talking about it. We are a highly trained engine and ladder company and firegrounds almost always go smoothly with no issues. Very rarely though, a million things do go wrong and it turns into a complete shitshow. Especially if you have a bunch of extra guys on the truck because it's a change of shift job and everybody wants to help and get involved. Guys learn from their mistakes and anyone watching this video can Monday Morning Quarterback and hopefully not make similar mistakes.
Funny how so many paid firefighter are in such bad shape they don't wear gear on fire scene.. I am sure there Union will sue when they get hurt or dead
100% agree. Every fire scene is chaotic but change of shift jobs with extra guys jumping on the truck are even worse. It can be a help or a hindrance. Everyone's roles are diminished and there can be communication and equipment issues but you do have the benefit of extra manpower. Portable ladder out front was put up for egress short of the window so it didn't burn, ladder on the side was for ventilation, and ladder to the roof in the rear was for roof operations. The front door was reinforced with 2×4s behind it so it took longer to force while the side door was unlocked so that was the one that was used.
@@Steve-cu1ye Not making excuses. Just giving an explanation. These videos are for training purposes, not to show off. Mistakes can and do happen on the fireground whether paid or volunteer. We need to improvise and adapt in order to overcome these mistakes. We get to watch these videos afterwards, Monday Morning Quarterback and talk about what we would or could have done differently or better and why. "I mean, they complained day and night because things don't run smooth. Well, in my line of work, things don't run so smooth, I'm sorry." - Casino
@Jesse Osada Exactly its amazing how many armchair or career fire fighters that were not on scene say how you should have done it. Fact is we are all human. After every incident a review is done to see what went right/wrong, what better could have been done, or reinforced etc. Having spent over a decade in law enforcement and military and various emergency services, I would never watch a video and be critical of another persons choices made in the heat of the moment. One of the main things they taught us in the academy is hindsight is always 20/20 and its real easy to go frame by frame with a video and disect it piece by piece. But the heat of the moment you don't have that luxury. The videos we used for training always came with context and were throughly researced. We were never critical of the choices made, only to learn from them. Learn what worked and what didn't, and what could we do better going forward. That's why it literally irks me to see people that claim to be career firefighters jump on and blast another department from a short video with only one perspective and no context.
Hopefully your fire chief implements a new policy not allowing previous shift guys to jump on a rig when a fire comes in. These guys that jumped on a rig because it was a change of shift didn’t really seem to help that much. They should have just stayed at the fire station and went home.
The last time I took the Fire test was 19-20 years ago so it has changed dramatically since. I'm not really sure what would be on it if you took it today
Nobody should be criticizing these guys. You have no idea what they put up with in these neighborhoods. The volleys get all hyped up about packs and gear. Then I watch your vids and Chiefs are on the knob and a little job turns into a parking lot.
Really? I come from a large paid department and if we were caught with our pants down like these guys we would get roasted by our Chief. No packs on, even after seeing fire on arrival, dude up a ladder with no coat or SCBA, camera guy ditched the radio (let’s hope he doesn’t have to call a mayday). We are called professional for a reason. We deal with inner city shit all the time, doesn’t mean we aren’t ready to go aggressive when we get on a job. Demand better from ourselves, don’t defend or reward complacency.
@@shanestamball1886these boys fight more fire then you could ever dream off. Armature hour?! These boys will take you to the deep waters and make you wish you never put on that helmet. All the vollys only complaints are lack of packs, If y’all fought 4 fires a shift, yall would keep them off as much as you can too.
This was a change of shift fire, so there were extra guys from the off going platoon that jumped on the truck just to help. The front door was reinforced with 2x4's behind it so it took a saw to get through it and it was eventually opened but wasn't really needed as the side door was unlocked.
Career guys getting off apparatus not packed up, no coats on, apparently they're not allowed to put over a few gallons of water through a window to slow the fire growth. 🤦♂️ Pretty sad Philly FD
there were extra guys on the truck because it was at change of shift there are no extra packs on the ladder there's only 5 so if there's 8-10 people on the truck there's not enough packs for everyone like Jesse said earlier change of shift jobs can be chaos I'm a Ladder Officer in the PFD and I once had a similar job with the extra guys I didn't really like it because it made keeping track of what's going on and who's doing what difficult
I guess Phila don't believe in using their aerials and the F/F on the ground ladder didn't even have his turnout coat on, someone had to throw it up to him. What a shit show No one even had a chock to keep the door open 🤔 very poor leadership
That was disappointing to see. It’s a shame. Someone will get hurt. I am glad I was not your officer or chief. I rarely if ever comment but this isn’t the south Bronx in 72. I hope your admin doesn’t get wind of this. Try harder to stay safe
I think this criticism is a little unfair until you fight fires in the kind of neighbor hoods we fight these fires in with the condition the dwellings are in you probably can't relate I'm a Ladder officer in Philly in a area not far from where they are and deal with the same kind of condition. Where is it normal to have a fully occupied dwelling and have one of the fully functional doors sealed from the inside with 2X4's that had to sawed open or have so much clutter piled up in a house that a 5' 10" guy(me) while crawling to find the steps for a fire in the upstairs rear bedroom I leaned up on my knees and hit my head on the living room ceiling this stuff is not normal the only city that compares is Baltimore, should they be safer? Sure but everyone in the fire service should strive to be safer on every call
@@ericscott430 all I am saying is it takes little time to get dressed and at least pretend to care about yourself. When things go bad will the city deny workers comp because you’re not dressed in minimally appropriate PPE …. It’s just a bad example of how things could be better. You can see videos and other examples of many major metropolitan fire departments and every member is dressed in full PPE even cities with more urban blight than Philly. Bosses shouldn’t accept poor performance and noncompliance it shows poorly on the managers. Either way, I don’t work in Philly. Sorry if I offended but I actually care about perception and people and if you can’t keep your people safe then what’s the point of being a lieutenant/captain/battalion chief or even senior man. Stay safe brother
@@moemedicpa no Chief you’re correct and you did not offend guys should definitely be dressed when they exit the apparatus with their full PPE it’s a constant battle for me with guys to get them to wear their scbas like they should but as far as blight I know they have it in NYC and Chicago and Boston and most older cities but ours is just different we just lost a great LT in a building collapse during the over haul/ fire investigation phase at least an hour or more after the fire had been extinguished and I was just at a fire a couple of weeks after that where we had a rear of the row home collapse during the fire fight and another great LT got burned really bad from the debris who may not make it back to the job but my frustration was not meant for you it’s just that on here I see a lot of criticism from people who probably haven’t been to many fires if any at all or had the pressure of trying to contain a house with heavy fire throughout to keep it from extending and affecting the whole block of houses and not just the one house that’s all I took it a little personal so my apologies for that you also stay safe out there
I don't know! Maybe it's just me but, I would pull up in an Engine with 1000 gallons of onboard water, pull a 1-3/4" line while the engineer activates the pump, and I would put maybe 20-30 gallons into that room and soak all the burning material. Call me crazy but I would think those flames would be a hazard to the victims, entering firefighters and the structure itself. I thought they were called, "Firefighters!" No wonder these guys chose this profession over one that required you to have a strong and responsible Work Ethic! Like, sweeping floors!
Tell me you're a volley without telling me youre a volley. 1000 gallons, really? No engine in any urban area in America carries more than 500 gallons. You MAY find one with 750 if they have rural areas, but come on. Why carry that much water when hydrants exist every 500-1000ft
@@danielr3933 I was making a point. Obviously it went over your head. I bet you're one of those people that believes stats equals firefighting knowledge. Oh and, where is it written that every hydrant will be working?
@@danielr3933 this guy has been trolling for literally 10+ years on every major department video posted. Don’t feed the troll. He has clear mental issues
Damn, who made that security door? I want one of those. PFD used to carry two man battering rams on trucks. I guess that's no more.
Outstanding video and great work by your truck guys and all department to stop this fire. Not sure where the safety officer is that should be there making sure firefighters are being safe and wearing gear and things like that but I’m glad you stepped up to the plate and told the guy to put on his coat everyone goes home that’s a goal for all of us to remember.
Are you serious? This fire should have been OUT within the first minute of arrival!
Getting it done 👍🏼
Yeah, eventually!
this has got to be the most inefficient and poorly trained career depts I have ever seen. A guy on the ladder with no coat on! Guy off the truck no pack on! People in the house without masks! Unbelievable. Glad I don't work or live there. Surprised they don't have More LODD than they do.
How about a guy with a CHARGED LINE and he doesn't know what to do with it?
Just sounds like these dudes balls are a whole lot bigger then yours, these boys see more fire in a month then you will in your entire career
Why would you upload this smh
These arent highlight videos. These videos are for training purposes, not to show off. Mistakes can and do happen on the fireground and being able to watch these videos afterwards, and see what we would or could have done differently or better is more helpful than just talking about it. We are a highly trained engine and ladder company and firegrounds almost always go smoothly with no issues. Very rarely though, a million things do go wrong and it turns into a complete shitshow. Especially if you have a bunch of extra guys on the truck because it's a change of shift job and everybody wants to help and get involved. Guys learn from their mistakes and anyone watching this video can Monday Morning Quarterback and hopefully not make similar mistakes.
Good work Philly
Funny how so many paid firefighter are in such bad shape they don't wear gear on fire scene.. I am sure there Union will sue when they get hurt or dead
This is a cluster fuck. Half the guys are dressed, portables to nowhere and can’t force the door.
100% agree. Every fire scene is chaotic but change of shift jobs with extra guys jumping on the truck are even worse. It can be a help or a hindrance. Everyone's roles are diminished and there can be communication and equipment issues but you do have the benefit of extra manpower. Portable ladder out front was put up for egress short of the window so it didn't burn, ladder on the side was for ventilation, and ladder to the roof in the rear was for roof operations. The front door was reinforced with 2×4s behind it so it took longer to force while the side door was unlocked so that was the one that was used.
@@jesseosada4690 Um, how about squirting some water through the windows to stop that stuff from burning?
@@jesseosada4690 stop making excuses no reason paid firefighter shouldn't be ready to go
@@Steve-cu1ye Not making excuses. Just giving an explanation. These videos are for training purposes, not to show off. Mistakes can and do happen on the fireground whether paid or volunteer. We need to improvise and adapt in order to overcome these mistakes. We get to watch these videos afterwards, Monday Morning Quarterback and talk about what we would or could have done differently or better and why.
"I mean, they complained day and night because things don't run smooth. Well, in my line of work, things don't run so smooth, I'm sorry." - Casino
@Jesse Osada Exactly its amazing how many armchair or career fire fighters that were not on scene say how you should have done it. Fact is we are all human. After every incident a review is done to see what went right/wrong, what better could have been done, or reinforced etc. Having spent over a decade in law enforcement and military and various emergency services, I would never watch a video and be critical of another persons choices made in the heat of the moment. One of the main things they taught us in the academy is hindsight is always 20/20 and its real easy to go frame by frame with a video and disect it piece by piece. But the heat of the moment you don't have that luxury. The videos we used for training always came with context and were throughly researced. We were never critical of the choices made, only to learn from them. Learn what worked and what didn't, and what could we do better going forward. That's why it literally irks me to see people that claim to be career firefighters jump on and blast another department from a short video with only one perspective and no context.
Great job
looks like near indiana ave up in north philly
Nice work guys keep it up 👨🚒🚒🚨🇺🇸
Hopefully your fire chief implements a new policy not allowing previous shift guys to jump on a rig when a fire comes in. These guys that jumped on a rig because it was a change of shift didn’t really seem to help that much. They should have just stayed at the fire station and went home.
The low light pickup from that camera is pretty amazing. Great video Awesome job.
In the UK that fire would have been out with in an hour miles to slow
Why just let the fire get worse and spread when you have a charged line and guys are still trying to gain entry. Very poor.
Fountain Statues can't think on their feet. Can you imagine the kind of training officers they have?
@@JB91710better training then you will ever get you old fart
hey jesse is the civil test hard ??? can you give a input what would be on it ??
The last time I took the Fire test was 19-20 years ago so it has changed dramatically since. I'm not really sure what would be on it if you took it today
Very basic test 50+50=100 style questions if your gonna practice anything practice behavioral testing thats whats important.
Lots of "experts" commenting on here
Yeah, and you are obviously not one of them. Jealousy is a bitch, huh Joey?
Nobody should be criticizing these guys. You have no idea what they put up with in these neighborhoods. The volleys get all hyped up about packs and gear. Then I watch your vids and Chiefs are on the knob and a little job turns into a parking lot.
All I can think is hopefully these guys aren't a fully paid department, because this is clearly ameture hour.
Really? I come from a large paid department and if we were caught with our pants down like these guys we would get roasted by our Chief. No packs on, even after seeing fire on arrival, dude up a ladder with no coat or SCBA, camera guy ditched the radio (let’s hope he doesn’t have to call a mayday). We are called professional for a reason. We deal with inner city shit all the time, doesn’t mean we aren’t ready to go aggressive when we get on a job. Demand better from ourselves, don’t defend or reward complacency.
@@shanestamball1886these boys fight more fire then you could ever dream off. Armature hour?! These boys will take you to the deep waters and make you wish you never put on that helmet. All the vollys only complaints are lack of packs, If y’all fought 4 fires a shift, yall would keep them off as much as you can too.
Get off my ladder 👴🏼
Wow! WTF?!?!? Why are there random guys with no gear on running around? Did they ever get through the front door? Embarrassing. LMAO
This was a change of shift fire, so there were extra guys from the off going platoon that jumped on the truck just to help. The front door was reinforced with 2x4's behind it so it took a saw to get through it and it was eventually opened but wasn't really needed as the side door was unlocked.
Thank you. That explains a lot. God Bless you all. True heroes. Stay safe! Love your videos. I stand corrected.
@@jesseosada4690 what you need to do is put water on the fire.
@@nubbyg9096 Correct, that's the Engines job. Ladder opens up, searches
Is this vacant? Put water on the fire. Ask Baltimore about interior attacks on vacant buildings.
Career guys getting off apparatus not packed up, no coats on, apparently they're not allowed to put over a few gallons of water through a window to slow the fire growth. 🤦♂️ Pretty sad Philly FD
there were extra guys on the truck because it was at change of shift there are no extra packs on the ladder there's only 5 so if there's 8-10 people on the truck there's not enough packs for everyone like Jesse said earlier change of shift jobs can be chaos I'm a Ladder Officer in the PFD and I once had a similar job with the extra guys I didn't really like it because it made keeping track of what's going on and who's doing what difficult
@@ericscott430 Water, on the burning stuff!
@@JB91710 legendary JB😂 in the comment section lol good see ya still
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I guess Phila don't believe in using their aerials and the F/F on the ground ladder didn't even have his turnout coat on, someone had to throw it up to him. What a shit show No one even had a chock to keep the door open 🤔 very poor leadership
What the F
That was disappointing to see. It’s a shame. Someone will get hurt. I am glad I was not your officer or chief. I rarely if ever comment but this isn’t the south Bronx in 72. I hope your admin doesn’t get wind of this. Try harder to stay safe
I think this criticism is a little unfair until you fight fires in the kind of neighbor hoods we fight these fires in with the condition the dwellings are in you probably can't relate I'm a Ladder officer in Philly in a area not far from where they are and deal with the same kind of condition. Where is it normal to have a fully occupied dwelling and have one of the fully functional doors sealed from the inside with 2X4's that had to sawed open or have so much clutter piled up in a house that a 5' 10" guy(me) while crawling to find the steps for a fire in the upstairs rear bedroom I leaned up on my knees and hit my head on the living room ceiling this stuff is not normal the only city that compares is Baltimore, should they be safer? Sure but everyone in the fire service should strive to be safer on every call
@@ericscott430 all I am saying is it takes little time to get dressed and at least pretend to care about yourself. When things go bad will the city deny workers comp because you’re not dressed in minimally appropriate PPE …. It’s just a bad example of how things could be better. You can see videos and other examples of many major metropolitan fire departments and every member is dressed in full PPE even cities with more urban blight than Philly. Bosses shouldn’t accept poor performance and noncompliance it shows poorly on the managers. Either way, I don’t work in Philly. Sorry if I offended but I actually care about perception and people and if you can’t keep your people safe then what’s the point of being a lieutenant/captain/battalion chief or even senior man. Stay safe brother
@@moemedicpa no Chief you’re correct and you did not offend guys should definitely be dressed when they exit the apparatus with their full PPE it’s a constant battle for me with guys to get them to wear their scbas like they should but as far as blight I know they have it in NYC and Chicago and Boston and most older cities but ours is just different we just lost a great LT in a building collapse during the over haul/ fire investigation phase at least an hour or more after the fire had been extinguished and I was just at a fire a couple of weeks after that where we had a rear of the row home collapse during the fire fight and another great LT got burned really bad from the debris who may not make it back to the job but my frustration was not meant for you it’s just that on here I see a lot of criticism from people who probably haven’t been to many fires if any at all or had the pressure of trying to contain a house with heavy fire throughout to keep it from extending and affecting the whole block of houses and not just the one house that’s all I took it a little personal so my apologies for that you also stay safe out there
72? Try, 2023! The FDNY is the worst department in the word!
JB has never been in a fire
I don't know! Maybe it's just me but, I would pull up in an Engine with 1000 gallons of onboard water, pull a 1-3/4" line while the engineer activates the pump, and I would put maybe 20-30 gallons into that room and soak all the burning material. Call me crazy but I would think those flames would be a hazard to the victims, entering firefighters and the structure itself. I thought they were called, "Firefighters!" No wonder these guys chose this profession over one that required you to have a strong and responsible Work Ethic! Like, sweeping floors!
Tell me you're a volley without telling me youre a volley. 1000 gallons, really? No engine in any urban area in America carries more than 500 gallons. You MAY find one with 750 if they have rural areas, but come on. Why carry that much water when hydrants exist every 500-1000ft
@@danielr3933 I was making a point. Obviously it went over your head. I bet you're one of those people that believes stats equals firefighting knowledge. Oh and, where is it written that every hydrant will be working?
@@danielr3933
He's never even set foot inside a firestation let alone worked a fire
He's been outing himself as a phony here for years
"I don't know! Maybe it's just me but..."
-Its never been you... and it never will be you... 😆😅😂🤣
@@danielr3933 this guy has been trolling for literally 10+ years on every major department video posted. Don’t feed the troll. He has clear mental issues