A5s, if your top pair is best you stand to win a small pot and it's easy to know when you are beat. You can make the stone cold nuts (A high flush) and near nuts (a wheel) enough and don't give up much in implied odds with either hand. And you can pull the GTO solver geek bet/4bet bluff if you have the heart. What's not to like?
This episode definitely confirmed some of my thoughts about medium strength hands and that folding them was the correct play even though it was difficult to do so because no one likes losing $.
@@PokerCoaching what do u think about the logic that KQ is the best hand that isn’t premium, I would argue anything better than KQ would be easy to spot. For example if they have AK AQ or better they would 3bet or raise when bet to them.
Today, I did a PokerTracker evaluation of small pocket pairs (22 to 66) and mid pocket pairs (77 to 99). I found that the best way to play these “Marginal Poker Hands” is to NOT PLAY THEM. They are negative bb/100, money losers and are no longer in my playing range. Perhaps, with great effort I could improve my winning rate with these hands. But why bother? Even with improvement, these hands would still be losers or VERY small winners. Also, Little’s advice to consider your opponents’ tendencies could not help me because I play anonymous Ignition poker.
I suspect that Doyle and Bobby Hoff and Unger were as dangerous as they were and lasted as long at the highest stakes because they instinctively were playing ranges before anyone else.
On the ATo example. Just today I was playing online MTT's. I had 2 hands with very similar results where villain was bluffing. 1st hand I opened UTG with QQ. I got 3 bet by a villain in MP. I called. Flop was K97. I check. Villain bets 3/4 pot. I call. Turn was a blank. I check Villain bet pot, I call. River another blank. I check, Villain goes all in. I'm going through what MP combos containing a K like to 3 bet. I'm coming up with KK, AK, KQs and maybe if they are a bit on the loose side KJs. I decide to put the tournament on the line and call. Villain had ATs. I win. Next example. I'm BB. A EP player opens. I defend my BB with ATo. Flop is AQ6. I check, they bet a bit under half pot, I call. Turn is a blank. Check, Bet 1/2, call. River is another blank. Check, bet 1/2, Call. Villain shows A9s and I win. So just because EP opens and continues to fire in tournaments. It doesn't mean they have it. That being said I wouldn't always hero call in these spots. In both instances if the villains were the kind of player who only plays like 1 out of every 25 hands or so. I'm folding if they keep putting in money. But both villains in these hands were fairly active. So on both hands I figured I'm probably good 50% of the time here. It turned out I was 100% on these 2 hands.
I would fold the flop with QJ on the final hand LJ and HJ either have better made hands that crush hero or draws with a bunch of equity against us and we’ll end up folding the turn most of the time and reverse implied odds when we hit and they have better.
@@ihavecrabs56 you certainly could. It depends. Dont know if you have a lot of fold equity against 4 opponents. And the originally raiser is UTG. So probably better to call.
🤔🤔🤔... Where I play my tournaments & sng's most everyone just shoves their pocket 2's through 10's all-in pre. Regardless of their position, stack size, or if there's anything more than just the blinds in the pot at 15/30 level
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What is your FAVORITE marginal preflop hand?🤔
76s
22...it is neeeeever seen!
A5s, if your top pair is best you stand to win a small pot and it's easy to know when you are beat. You can make the stone cold nuts (A high flush) and near nuts (a wheel) enough and don't give up much in implied odds with either hand. And you can pull the GTO solver geek bet/4bet bluff if you have the heart. What's not to like?
77❤
JcTc but only in a 4 color deck cuz it’s green 💚and a pretty hand.
This episode definitely confirmed some of my thoughts about medium strength hands and that folding them was the correct play even though it was difficult to do so because no one likes losing $.
This video felt super helpful and dense, love it thanks!
Thanks for the breakdown with examples on not so easy spots.
Pocket 10s is definitely my favorite marginal hand, because it’s just a psychologically easier version of pocket jacks lol
I see what you mean.
I never get why there is such a difference TT vs 99 in some itm spots 20 bbef 3way late pos TT gona win 0.55 bb and 99 loses 0.45
@@PokerCoaching what do u think about the logic that KQ is the best hand that isn’t premium, I would argue anything better than KQ would be easy to spot. For example if they have AK AQ or better they would 3bet or raise when bet to them.
Pocket tens are my favorite hand 👏.
Today, I did a PokerTracker evaluation of small pocket pairs (22 to 66) and mid pocket pairs (77 to 99). I found that the best way to play these “Marginal Poker Hands” is to NOT PLAY THEM. They are negative bb/100, money losers and are no longer in my playing range. Perhaps, with great effort I could improve my winning rate with these hands. But why bother? Even with improvement, these hands would still be losers or VERY small winners. Also, Little’s advice to consider your opponents’ tendencies could not help me because I play anonymous Ignition poker.
"Don't play high stakes if you can't call bluffs with marginal hands." Doyle Brunson
True! RIP to Doyle.
I suspect that Doyle and Bobby Hoff and Unger were as dangerous as they were and lasted as long at the highest stakes because they instinctively were playing ranges before anyone else.
On the ATo example. Just today I was playing online MTT's. I had 2 hands with very similar results where villain was bluffing. 1st hand I opened UTG with QQ. I got 3 bet by a villain in MP. I called. Flop was K97. I check. Villain bets 3/4 pot. I call. Turn was a blank. I check Villain bet pot, I call. River another blank. I check, Villain goes all in. I'm going through what MP combos containing a K like to 3 bet. I'm coming up with KK, AK, KQs and maybe if they are a bit on the loose side KJs. I decide to put the tournament on the line and call. Villain had ATs. I win.
Next example. I'm BB. A EP player opens. I defend my BB with ATo. Flop is AQ6. I check, they bet a bit under half pot, I call. Turn is a blank. Check, Bet 1/2, call. River is another blank. Check, bet 1/2, Call. Villain shows A9s and I win.
So just because EP opens and continues to fire in tournaments. It doesn't mean they have it. That being said I wouldn't always hero call in these spots. In both instances if the villains were the kind of player who only plays like 1 out of every 25 hands or so. I'm folding if they keep putting in money. But both villains in these hands were fairly active. So on both hands I figured I'm probably good 50% of the time here. It turned out I was 100% on these 2 hands.
18:44 i guess i would peel once and depending on the turn card and the bet size on the turn, either fold or call.
Awesome.
That KTs hand is sn example where in Stars Zoom.0.01/0.02 it is very rarely good and folding tp K kicker is the better play
I would fold the flop with QJ on the final hand LJ and HJ either have better made hands that crush hero or draws with a bunch of equity against us and we’ll end up folding the turn most of the time and reverse implied odds when we hit and they have better.
should i fold 52s in the BB against a 7.5x open?
Yes
3 bet all in, only way
Yes.
@@PokerCoaching But lets say we are +250bb deep and preflop raiser is well know for overplaying his hands Post flop? Still a fold?
Even if nobody raises and you get a free flop just fold that shit you aint gettin no straight flush and if you do your opponent will have a royal
18:44 While I would probably fold here, I would at least consider raising as a bluff. The 8 is a nice blocker.
is it bad to 3bet preflop in his example with the A8s? and can u explain why please
@@ihavecrabs56 you certainly could. It depends. Dont know if you have a lot of fold equity against 4 opponents. And the originally raiser is UTG. So probably better to call.
Why don't we raise on the flop? So we know where we are...? Maybe see the river , or if they reraise then it's easy to fold..
betting/raising to "see where I'm at" oh no please no do not ever use that phrase or logic again 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
🤔🤔🤔... Where I play my tournaments & sng's most everyone just shoves their pocket 2's through 10's all-in pre. Regardless of their position, stack size, or if there's anything more than just the blinds in the pot at 15/30 level
Amazing!
@corey192 , never ceases to amaze me every day
10-9 suited