Great video Paul. Like you I wouldn’t include my time in any comparison because making is what we love to do so the savings were HUGE. They look fantastic too mate, I love the green 👍🏼
Thanks Vic. To be honest, I didn't want to talk about time costs, but I knew if I didn't somebody would complain about it. Honestly I'm just surprised nobody has pointed out I haven't included "other business costs" like marketing, insurance, work christmas party, etc :D
And I dare say the quality of the workmanship things like the edging was superior too. Plus you hopefully had fun and learnt some new things so win win win
Thanks for sharing this. I always laugh when people talk about pricing out and adding their labor costs. If my husband watched this video he would say…. “You also have to add in the price of your pin nails that you used. And how much electric you used.. and… and… and…. So on. LOL. I’m not that person. To me… the cost of the materials vs the cost to buy is all I look at. Works for me.
Great work Paul. End result looks excellent. A note on Kaboodle stuff - I recently did a whole new laundry with them - large cuplboard, large box of drawers, couple of wall cabinets and some other bits etc. I think it was about $3300 with a few custom sizes but mostly stock. Firstly Kaboodle is NOT IKEA. You’re not getting away with just an allen key on these babies. You need a good set of clamps to hold things together while you assemble, a drill / driver, and other bits. Yeah I had most of it - had to chase down a couple of Irwin 600 / 1270 mm clamps to hold things together. Luckily I already had 4-6 smaller ones for others things. Probably needed $400-600 ish in tools. Yes I have them now but still, would be a shock for a more simpler DIY’er. BUT still - the same thing from a couple of local tradies for them to do it? $8k-$10k. So for me it was a good comprimise of getting the cabinets we needed, in the colours wifey wanted,, a weekend of my time, and we saved $4-5k ish and I look like a legend lol.
Good for you for taking the time to lay out the costs in such a detailed manner. The final job looks great, and you have saved a bunch of money. Obviously the savings will continue on the next cupboard you build.
Great video Paul, thats an excellent detailed description. I feel that no matter what you do in Australia its still all crazy expensive. You have shown much more affordable ways for people with a desire and prupose to have a better result. TY, I will be making my own cabinets soon.
Thanks! Haha, yep, everything is horribly expensive. I'm not sure if I'm glad I did the price comparison or not because it made me look at how much I ended up spending on the cabinets and I'll admit I winced a bit then! Far away island, widely dispersed 'low' population - half the markup is just going to be from transport costs at least.
Interesting comparison- I'm with you in not imputing your time as a cost. I have a question which is totally unrelated to the video so apologies for that. We are planning on visiting Australia towards the back end of next year and want to make a gift for our newly-born granddaughter. I have a small rocking chair in mind which I would do all the joinery on in the UK then look to do the assembly when we get there. Are there such things as workshops which hire facilities and equipment on a daily rate?
I think another important point is that when you do the inside cabinets, the cost of the tools that you invested in for this build won't be included in the next build cost. It's already been covered by the savings here. The next cabinets will be HUGELY cheaper to produce.
Thanks for that. Sometimes I get requests for cheap tables or whatever and I usually say I can't compete with online prices for certain items. Bunnings make a big margin on the kaboodle range. It's more for diyers trying to save paying for a professional kitchen co. But someone like yourself can design and build using raw materials which is where woodworking skills and equipment can pay off.
Oh absolutely I don't think I would do this comparison if I was trying to *make* money making cabinets. Labour costs factor in, but the overheads would add up pretty quickly - very much looking at it from the hobbyist woodworker/DIYers perspective.
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Great video Paul. Like you I wouldn’t include my time in any comparison because making is what we love to do so the savings were HUGE. They look fantastic too mate, I love the green 👍🏼
Thanks Vic. To be honest, I didn't want to talk about time costs, but I knew if I didn't somebody would complain about it. Honestly I'm just surprised nobody has pointed out I haven't included "other business costs" like marketing, insurance, work christmas party, etc :D
@@TheWoodKnight 🤣🤣
And I dare say the quality of the workmanship things like the edging was superior too. Plus you hopefully had fun and learnt some new things so win win win
Thanks for sharing this.
I always laugh when people talk about pricing out and adding their labor costs. If my husband watched this video he would say…. “You also have to add in the price of your pin nails that you used. And how much electric you used.. and… and… and…. So on. LOL. I’m not that person. To me… the cost of the materials vs the cost to buy is all I look at. Works for me.
Nice work, don't forget to include your satisfaction in doing it and the confidence you get in your cabinet making for future projects.
Great work Paul. End result looks excellent. A note on Kaboodle stuff - I recently did a whole new laundry with them - large cuplboard, large box of drawers, couple of wall cabinets and some other bits etc. I think it was about $3300 with a few custom sizes but mostly stock.
Firstly Kaboodle is NOT IKEA. You’re not getting away with just an allen key on these babies. You need a good set of clamps to hold things together while you assemble, a drill / driver, and other bits. Yeah I had most of it - had to chase down a couple of Irwin 600 / 1270 mm clamps to hold things together. Luckily I already had 4-6 smaller ones for others things. Probably needed $400-600 ish in tools. Yes I have them now but still, would be a shock for a more simpler DIY’er.
BUT still - the same thing from a couple of local tradies for them to do it? $8k-$10k. So for me it was a good comprimise of getting the cabinets we needed, in the colours wifey wanted,, a weekend of my time, and we saved $4-5k ish and I look like a legend lol.
Good for you for taking the time to lay out the costs in such a detailed manner. The final job looks great, and you have saved a bunch of money. Obviously the savings will continue on the next cupboard you build.
Great video Paul, thats an excellent detailed description. I feel that no matter what you do in Australia its still all crazy expensive. You have shown much more affordable ways for people with a desire and prupose to have a better result. TY, I will be making my own cabinets soon.
Thanks! Haha, yep, everything is horribly expensive. I'm not sure if I'm glad I did the price comparison or not because it made me look at how much I ended up spending on the cabinets and I'll admit I winced a bit then!
Far away island, widely dispersed 'low' population - half the markup is just going to be from transport costs at least.
Fantastic break down and comparison Paul!
Interesting comparison- I'm with you in not imputing your time as a cost.
I have a question which is totally unrelated to the video so apologies for that. We are planning on visiting Australia towards the back end of next year and want to make a gift for our newly-born granddaughter. I have a small rocking chair in mind which I would do all the joinery on in the UK then look to do the assembly when we get there. Are there such things as workshops which hire facilities and equipment on a daily rate?
I think another important point is that when you do the inside cabinets, the cost of the tools that you invested in for this build won't be included in the next build cost. It's already been covered by the savings here. The next cabinets will be HUGELY cheaper to produce.
While I agree, it can be a dangerous line of thought that almost ended up with me buying a sliding table saw to make the cabinets faster 🤣
@@TheWoodKnight I know an accountant that could fudge the numbers for you.
Brilliant timing because I am just planning something very similar and need to know how much to save up.
Thanks for that. Sometimes I get requests for cheap tables or whatever and I usually say I can't compete with online prices for certain items. Bunnings make a big margin on the kaboodle range. It's more for diyers trying to save paying for a professional kitchen co. But someone like yourself can design and build using raw materials which is where woodworking skills and equipment can pay off.
Oh absolutely I don't think I would do this comparison if I was trying to *make* money making cabinets. Labour costs factor in, but the overheads would add up pretty quickly - very much looking at it from the hobbyist woodworker/DIYers perspective.
"I can make it at home for nothing" - great job.