when you look at the whole story, you understand the others was trying tell her who is responsible for this mess the carpenter tell alice to consider that she may have been misled, but by whom? And caterpillar tell Alice she's running away from reality then her confront with the red queen we get this You see the pattern of destruction, I know you do! The train is trying to destroy all evidence of your past and especially the fire. Now, who would want that ? “Who benefits from your madness? and the answer to that is Dr. Bumby
The way that crazy Scottish/Irish octopus (I can't really tell if he's supposed to be Scottish or Irish, but I think he's Scottish) gets so close to the camera when yelling at Alice really frightens me. I literally yelled "GET OUT OF MY FACE!" when watching that part. What makes him funny is that he has the same voice actor as the Dormouse. Also, I'm probably one of few girls who isn't attracted to the Carpenter. He's okay looking, I guess. My affections belong to the March Hare.
Ya but oddly, most of the fish killed in the slaughter (not shown in the cutscenes) weren't eaten but were strung up by hooks and gutted or tortured to death. Also, the mayor is still alive and hanging from a cross but Alice doesn't seem to take notice which is weird.
@Dinyang It's true that every other character is supposed to appear as little more than deformed caricatures of themselves, but translated into a realism-based style the Carpenter is not that unattractive. Besides, for all his faults, he's got his charming pleasantries going for him, and he also saved her from being struck by the oncoming train, probably at the cost of his own life. Trust me, I've seen less basis for forming a pair.
I prefer the Mock Turtle in this game the most, he talks and acts more like the Mock Turtle from the book (and other loyal adaptions) would. In the first game he not only looks silly but also has the wrong kind of voice and personality for the character. The Walrus and his hunger are the second most disturbing aspect of this game in my opinion
@AsianNerdify He pulls her away from the direction of the door and places himself in front of her-then puts his arm up as if to protect them both while making sure she's squarely behind him.
Yep also, Carpenter (along with Walrus) was originally going to be a boss that were supposed to fight. I think anyone who ships actually missed the point what Alice is actually about.
@LaDeathMachine And the Alice in this game isn't even busty! Plus her outfit never rise over her knees... I love Alice with every single re-invention of her in this game! :)
I think the 'just' in LaDeathMachine's comment suggests that they meant it as being 'big busted' and nothing more, that the fault with modern society is that female characters have large breasts and a minute personality - at least that is how I interpreted the comment. However, I do agree with your comment as well.
Yep, the point is Alice is lonely and perhaps always be (of course the entire series is about Alice not everyone else...as if there's solipsism going on)
I think she remembered what the Tweedles told her about Walrus and the Carpenter along the way which she went "wait...what!?" or more like there was a deleted scene where she faced the Crab King who told her or rather hinted Carpenter's intentions.
This might sound weird to some of you, but which Alice do you prefer? The Alice when she's in London? Or the Alice when she's in Wonderland? Personally, I like the Alice from London. lol.
@AmiraSparrow Not at all! I for one ship the hell out of them. It makes a world more sense than Alice/Bumby, anyway, which is like the only other thing I've seen (or I'm not looking hard enough). Seriously? Ew. Who ever thought up that mess? My brain twitches at the notion of it. Nah, Alice/Carpenter is definitely my OTP as far as this game goes. You can't help but love it ♥
13:20, y'know when playing this game I felt like i missed something when i got to this point... i mean i'm not quite sure how Alice concluded that Carpenter and Walrus were running a criminal enterprise. Up till that point the only nefarious thing I heard about them was the comments from the one oyster girl about the threat she was under, but those comments were a far cry from all the murder we saw later.
Although what disturbs me the most is that people ship Alice with Bumby which shows no matter how much of a character you created is so despicable people still going to pair them which shows how low fandom can get and it's increbibly disturbing.
I think it would make sense that this Wonderland takes place in a restored one than the first game was except it's getting corrupted by Bumby's hypnotherapy to turn her into prostitute.
Is Mrs. Ladybird like.....i dunno....that dude's bitch? BTW, does anyone notice the irony in her almost burning to death. Again?! LOVE how she falls as a comet, and how her hair moves. God thats AWESOME!
Use the Bunny Bomb (or whatever it's called) to get the job done faster. Throw the bomb at the crab then detonate it. It'll flip the crab over. Then use the Hobby Horse to smash it to bits. Repeat this step until it's no more.
When people start whining about how games now-a-days have no plot and are just about beautiful women or big men beating up things, I always point out AMA.
@Xr24manX Well, what can I say? It's not for everyone. To me it's a habit. It's not like I go out of my way to think of stuff like this--it just kinda comes to me. And STICKS. I don't mean any offense in it.
Sword and crown are worthless here. I invite everybody to dance. Laborers, lawyers, church and gown al make their little prance. This life is full of random deaths, heaps of grief and shame. So few are soothed by “accident,” You want someone to blame. Fire, plague and strange disease, drowned, murder, or - if you please - A long fall down the basement stairs. None are expected, no-one cares.
Trying not to spoil this, but... So... why is it we weren't allowed to kill the Walrus? If this is what happened, couldn't they at least allow us the satisfaction of wiping him off Wonderland's face ourselves?
No. It's a train of thought planted in her by an outside force. Revealing WHAT that force is, however, would mean major spoilers, so I'll leave it at that.
Never understood that. She said nothing about the fact that he's killing the lil' Oyster girls or the fact that the Carpenter just slaughtered all of Barrelbottom.
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Alice seems so upset that the Walrus is "feasting while Wonderland is destroyed." Yes, Alice, because that's the only thing wrong with that scene.
Clearly she has her priorities straight
"Everyone here has an excuse for doing nothing! Reminds me of the asylum."
Funny. It reminds me of the government.
Gotta love it that Alice is the only main character in any series to consistently ask, "...and why can't YOU do it?"
when you look at the whole story, you understand the others was trying tell her who is responsible for this mess the carpenter tell alice to consider that she may have been misled, but by whom? And caterpillar tell Alice she's running away from reality then her confront with the red queen we get this
You see the pattern of destruction, I know you do! The train is trying to destroy all evidence of your past and especially the fire. Now, who would want that ? “Who benefits from your madness? and the answer to that is Dr. Bumby
Basically Walrus bit off Carpenter's Leg and he retaliated by smashing him with a hammer breaking his tusk....That's what happened between them.
"Consider the prospect that you've been mislead Alice! Then ask by whom?" I love carpenters lines.
This Alice is way more interesting with all the madness and what not. plus this Alice is way prettier than the one from disney
I know I'm hella late but FINALLY someone agrees with me, I like this Alice MUCH more than the Disney one
I feel so bad for Mock Turtle.
He lost his friend, the Gryphon in Game 1, then he loses the ship based on his friend.
The walrus is more of a villain eating those innocent clams and the carpenter trying to hide that I feel bad that the carpenter goes through that
I never noticed it before now but Carpenter protected Alice! :D
Did you know that there was actually going to be a bossfight with Walrus & the Carpenter when you reached the theater at the end?
Yeah, I wish I could find the script where this was actually said, I would've love to have this fight :OO
watching the cutscenes of this game make me think..."this is way better than burton's movie"
I actually REALLY like Carpenter in this game. :)
Idk why maybe it's the clever sound of his speech or the jester-style red hair, but I also think the carpenter is kinda hot or just awesome
he and the walrus we're malicious but carpenter did have some redeeming qualitys.
LOL
"speaking of shows..."
Alice: "we weren't" hahaha! Funny stuff
I really wish I had my own wonderland....
The way that crazy Scottish/Irish octopus (I can't really tell if he's supposed to be Scottish or Irish, but I think he's Scottish) gets so close to the camera when yelling at Alice really frightens me. I literally yelled "GET OUT OF MY FACE!" when watching that part. What makes him funny is that he has the same voice actor as the Dormouse.
Also, I'm probably one of few girls who isn't attracted to the Carpenter. He's okay looking, I guess. My affections belong to the March Hare.
Really? Mine is with the Cheshire Cat.
I don't know why, but I had a crush on the Carpenter, and still do.
Deluded Depths is my favourite from the game
Deluded depths.
planet: earth🌎.
realm: dream realm💭.
element: water💧.
terrain: sea🌊.
type: ocean floor.
location: southern hemisphere, wonderland.
resident: mayor of barrelbottom, carpenter and the walrus (deceased), oyster starlets🦪 (deceased), music fish🐟 (deceased), fish couple🐟 (deceased), jellyfish🪼, mermaids🧜♀️, mock turtle🐢, lost souls👻.
visitor: alice liddell, chesire cat🐈, blax watterson, bayonetta, jeanne, kratos, atreus, rain.
enemies: ice snarks❄️, cannon crabs🦀 , drowned sailors👻, shipwreck sharks🦈, ruins (insidious, slithering, drifting, menacing, colossal), sirens🧜♀️, malefactors (slayer, fester, burrower).
boss: poseidon, sapientia, kraken.
rarity: rare.
role: area.
status: restored.
color: blue🔵.
"The essentiality of haste is essential."
-Bruno Carpentieri
5:56 - I don't know about you, but I'm not sure if I'd want to attend a show what's name translates to "Dance of Death".
I'm not sure why but I like the carpenter.
i love the beginning of this chapter. The Atmosphere is absolutely beautiful. love the moon.
Ya but oddly, most of the fish killed in the slaughter (not shown in the cutscenes) weren't eaten but were strung up by hooks and gutted or tortured to death.
Also, the mayor is still alive and hanging from a cross but Alice doesn't seem to take notice which is weird.
@Dinyang It's true that every other character is supposed to appear as little more than deformed caricatures of themselves, but translated into a realism-based style the Carpenter is not that unattractive. Besides, for all his faults, he's got his charming pleasantries going for him, and he also saved her from being struck by the oncoming train, probably at the cost of his own life.
Trust me, I've seen less basis for forming a pair.
I prefer the Mock Turtle in this game the most, he talks and acts more like the Mock Turtle from the book (and other loyal adaptions) would. In the first game he not only looks silly but also has the wrong kind of voice and personality for the character.
The Walrus and his hunger are the second most disturbing aspect of this game in my opinion
@AsianNerdify He pulls her away from the direction of the door and places himself in front of her-then puts his arm up as if to protect them both while making sure she's squarely behind him.
her memories are being destroyed one by one the farther she goes that madder she gets e_o
i never knew shows could get pregnant
1:27 that guy just punched Alice
But he was arrested for killing Long Tim and met Alice again at the police station.
Yep also, Carpenter (along with Walrus) was originally going to be a boss that were supposed to fight. I think anyone who ships actually missed the point what Alice is actually about.
First thought with the octopus "who put fat bastard into alice in wonderland?!"
I wonder what Alice would look like if she was wearing a modern hospital gown and had the medical equipment attached to her.
The dead fish part. Oh boy.
The Sun freaks me out, too. But that moon is just scary, specially when Medusa's on it.
hate those flying pirates! they are so hard to kill
You included all the introduction cutscenes of all the enemies in the Deluded Depths except for the Drowned Sailor enemy!
@LaDeathMachine And the Alice in this game isn't even busty! Plus her outfit never rise over her knees... I love Alice with every single re-invention of her in this game! :)
@kabuto310
It's the humanity. London Alice is real, approachable, if you will. She is also sympathisable.
I just love how she walks.
I think the 'just' in LaDeathMachine's comment suggests that they meant it as being 'big busted' and nothing more, that the fault with modern society is that female characters have large breasts and a minute personality - at least that is how I interpreted the comment. However, I do agree with your comment as well.
Yep, the point is Alice is lonely and perhaps always be (of course the entire series is about Alice not everyone else...as if there's solipsism going on)
I WILL :D
Lol, It'd be hilarious if I really did, though xD
I think she remembered what the Tweedles told her about Walrus and the Carpenter along the way which she went "wait...what!?" or more like there was a deleted scene where she faced the Crab King who told her or rather hinted Carpenter's intentions.
You know, I always thought that someone in Japan should make Lolita dresses inspired by the game!
i love the editing. it brings the story in gameplay together without going though tediousness.
Love Alice's character.
This might sound weird to some of you, but which Alice do you prefer? The Alice when she's in London? Or the Alice when she's in Wonderland? Personally, I like the Alice from London. lol.
Don't let your own opinion pull words out of my mouth that I've never said let alone thought.
Jealous I got top comment?
SHE HURTME FEELINGS *smashes lamp*
@AmiraSparrow Not at all! I for one ship the hell out of them. It makes a world more sense than Alice/Bumby, anyway, which is like the only other thing I've seen (or I'm not looking hard enough). Seriously? Ew. Who ever thought up that mess? My brain twitches at the notion of it.
Nah, Alice/Carpenter is definitely my OTP as far as this game goes. You can't help but love it ♥
19:13 infernal train
The Carpenter reminds me a lot of Tim Burton’s Mad Hatter
13:20, y'know when playing this game I felt like i missed something when i got to this point... i mean i'm not quite sure how Alice concluded that Carpenter and Walrus were running a criminal enterprise. Up till that point the only nefarious thing I heard about them was the comments from the one oyster girl about the threat she was under, but those comments were a far cry from all the murder we saw later.
@Sangofan4ever I say there should be more Carpenter x Alice... everything. ;p
I DID. reminds me of the moon from the anime soul eater, now THAT is one scary moon.
Although what disturbs me the most is that people ship Alice with Bumby which shows no matter how much of a character you created is so despicable people still going to pair them which shows how low fandom can get and it's increbibly disturbing.
Alice is me in the future .
Hahahahahah 'That's the smell of unrecognised talent, So piss off...' octopus is a good guy.
Did anyone else notice the moon smokeing
I think it would make sense that this Wonderland takes place in a restored one than the first game was except it's getting corrupted by Bumby's hypnotherapy to turn her into prostitute.
Is Mrs. Ladybird like.....i dunno....that dude's bitch?
BTW, does anyone notice the irony in her almost burning to death. Again?!
LOVE how she falls as a comet, and how her hair moves. God thats AWESOME!
That's Nanny Sharpe and the guy who hit Alice is Jack Splatter.
Hmmm...
Carpenter vs. Sander Cohen.
If anyone just wants to see the show, it starts at 7:14.
lost it at "bizarre shit." XD
Use the Bunny Bomb (or whatever it's called) to get the job done faster. Throw the bomb at the crab then detonate it. It'll flip the crab over. Then use the Hobby Horse to smash it to bits. Repeat this step until it's no more.
The carpenter guy look like from true blood or Vampire Diaries or some kinda teen drama from 90s or 2000s buffy or what Every
When people start whining about how games now-a-days have no plot and are just about beautiful women or big men beating up things, I always point out AMA.
What?! No way, hope is never lost!
I wish all rapists gave up that easily
Good for you.
@Xr24manX Well, what can I say? It's not for everyone. To me it's a habit. It's not like I go out of my way to think of stuff like this--it just kinda comes to me. And STICKS. I don't mean any offense in it.
Am I the only one who ships Alice/Carpenter?
No I ship them as well .
@@emilydawson2553 Same here!
"Aye! Them bloody pirates!" lol
I love the walrus in this game :D but nobody wants to be a walrus.....not even a walrus wants to be a walrus XD
For everyone who wants to see an Alice Madness Returns fanmade movie trailer here's the link /watch?v=yc63K7cVZXA&feature=g-upl
@Dinyang Well, I don't insist upon it. If you don't like it, simply don't think about it. To each their own and all that...
Sword and crown are worthless here. I invite everybody to dance.
Laborers, lawyers, church and gown al make their little prance.
This life is full of random deaths, heaps of grief and shame.
So few are soothed by “accident,” You want someone to blame.
Fire, plague and strange disease, drowned, murder, or - if you please -
A long fall down the basement stairs. None are expected, no-one cares.
Trying not to spoil this, but...
So... why is it we weren't allowed to kill the Walrus? If this is what happened, couldn't they at least allow us the satisfaction of wiping him off Wonderland's face ourselves?
hahaha the out-of-tuned bottlefish is funny XD
No. It's a train of thought planted in her by an outside force. Revealing WHAT that force is, however, would mean major spoilers, so I'll leave it at that.
*scottish accent* I WANT TO KNOW WHAT LOVE IS.
@jspinac1 LMAO. I see what you mean! I love Gorillaz!
@Blackemperess how :O. i mean i know he's not the bad guy but im really slow can u please point it out for me XO
@iCalintz wtf?
it's vocaloid, bro. so you check out every guys stuff for a top comment? JEALOUS?
you failed to offend me. :P
HERP DERP
@MsBananahsplit Especially when they give those horrifying little screams when he tosses them into his mouth.
Shame on you! It should be the first game American Mcgee's Alice you point to, not the second Alice game!
@kabuto310 honestly i dont see i difference between the two lol shes going mad in both worlds
pfffffttt I ship Alice/Cheshire xD even Alice/Bumby should be more acceptable than THAT xD
LOL. Chill the f*** out dude. Congratulations on your top comment! Put it on your resume.
@kabuto310 Haha sorry i thought you were referring to something else lmao my fault
Genuine question... What did the men do exactly? All they said was: "what comes natural."
This game is really messed up! But I like it.
the ending is going to give me nightmares now
@Aranel1200 I know xD I forgot to mention that they humanize him xD but still!
Also there was a deleted scene involving the Mayor but it was cut though but the dialogue texts are still in the game files.
Im sorry, but the Walrus eating the little clam dancers was really disturbing.
I think so too. Then he says he needs a drink in that irish brogue. funny.
@Katieisawesomesauce1 cause no one deserves her and her awesomness!!!
Mechanical sharks.... Where have I seen that before?
Never understood that. She said nothing about the fact that he's killing the lil' Oyster girls or the fact that the Carpenter just slaughtered all of Barrelbottom.