Why Basecamp is still beating Komoot, AllTrails, Fatmap...

When talking about apps that help us plan trips, we usually end up with phone based apps like Komoot, AllTrails, Fatmap and many others. Great apps, but they are failing miserably at some very basic features.
This is where good (bad) old Garmin Basecamp comes in. Why is Basecamp still my go to trip planning software even though it's not particularly great?
What do you guys want in planning software?
Dieter Van Holder
UIMLA International Mountain Leader

[@skinnie88]

I just arrived here from reddit. I am not an heavy basecamp user, but it never crashed me using search, both on windows and mac. The only thing it happens to me is that sometimes he doesn't find things that I know they are on the map.
Regarding POIs I share your opinion also. Some POIs start to get introduced in those apps but I believe it's not possible to select which ones you want to see.
The only things I miss in basecamp are: weather forecast along a route (like komoot pro), sync to garmin explore automatically.

[@Cyclingismywholelife]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[@sssennaw]

+1 for the POI’s and having a large (paper) map for multiday overview.
Zooming in/out all the time, and you have no idea of the total distance or distance to next dinner/sleep

[@JeroenCoelen]

One of the key features I miss in komoot is a decent height visualisation that catches my eyes, like Google Map's terrain layer. When in new areas I would like to see where the elevation is, contour lines (isopleten/isolijnen voor de Dutchies) are very weak in the Komoot default map.

[@DieterVanHolder]

I agree 100%. The contour lines in Komoot are more or less useless at the moment.

[@christophemaertens9433]

Ik denk dat dit kan met de app Osmand. Het is wel wat prutsen om de POI in groepen te krijgen en aan te passen maar het is mogelijk.

[@tobiasvanhecke982]

Mapmagic is a very recent software. Still in development, but has the layer functionality, multiple route viewing and adding POIs. No folders though.

[@DieterVanHolder]

Link?

[@nicor4980]

I have no experience with the software in terms of planning trails, but have you ever looked at QGIS? I once did a school project (no hiking involved) in ArcGIS and I think there might be more possibilities compared to Basecamp. QGIS is one of the opensource (end free) variants that provides possibilities as good as ArcGIS

[@DieterVanHolder]

Any good sources you can recommend on how to get started with this

[@ray076NL]

@@DieterVanHolder Qgis is much to difficult. basecamp is a GIS package, but it's just poorly developped and was almost there. id like to have layers i can turn on and off, like campsites and water points. garmin doesnt provide it so i now have to use 4 apps, komoot (for inspiration), basecamp (openfietsmap), openstreetmap waterpoint website and some campsites app to be able to make a route properly.

[@ellengoose9406]

Did you have to add all the points the Basecamp map yourself?

[@DieterVanHolder]

Yep. They are on the open source base map. But by clicking you can give them a larger custom icon and custom name. This is an example of one area that I've studied in depth. I tend to do this for whole regions I'm interested in.

[@outhera-outandabout]

Mapsource is the shit!