@@yolyprog2561 It was a follow up to Rays joke claiming OP spelt moron wrong in response to OP stating narcissist. Unfortunately it seems to have fallen flat. I meant no offence or criticism towards Ray, as his spelling was actually correct
@@daftwod extremist: a person who holds extreme political or religious views, one who advocates illegal, violent, or other extreme actions Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods Lmao you thought you were doing something you clown 🤡
@@daftwod yes I would respect your beliefs cause not everyone is an extremist for eg. Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr., Malala Yousafzai are all examples of people who have faith in their religions and would you say there are extremists? No cause I would be uneducated if Nelson Mandela didn't free my country from racial segregation and I do agree every religion has people who are extremists but my point is that not everyone who is believes in a certain religion is an extremist. If every person who is religious were to be an extremist trust me mate you'd be dead by now and the civilization would be destroyed already so get your head out of the idea that religious people are bad and go ahead and give me more examples of your pov so continue to live in your glorified bubble too
Wait. So let me understand this. She's willing to follow the rules and wear a mask to get INTO the store, but not once inside. Does anyone else see the problem here?
Dear Genevieve, if wearing a mask is unhealthy, don't you think DOCTORS who wear them for multiple hours in surgeries would have figured that out? Sheesh.
@@humblehalfacre8464 my brother is a doctor and they wear mask. I'm tired of idiots putting people's lives in jeopardy. Put the mask and shut up you don't like it there are services that deliver
@@humblehalfacre8464 I watch army and air force service members run miles with weights, do push-up, and various other excersises IN MASKS. If they can do ALL of that in a mask there is no excuse to not wear a mask.
I wonder how she would feel if she’s ever in surgery if her doctors and nurses don’t wear masks while they’re operating. Hey, they’re perfectly healthy! There are no germs in an operating room, right?
@@beequinn5204 so if you love Darwin....isnt this exactly what your science teaches you is inevitable? Survival of the fittest after all. Your opinion is the equivalent to the tides of the ocean. Back and forth, to and fro. No firm foundation. Just willy nilliness.
@@zj2707 A bit too far fetched to blame the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation when the virus originated in China. The Western Elites have no hand on China.
Total rubbish the amount of oxygen exhaled is more than the co2 exhaled (16% oxygen 4% CO2) This woman needs to do her research or get some more education!! This is why mouth to mouth resuscitation is so effective in an emergency!
Daniel Vance exactly, Trader Joe’s is private property. If you don’t like the rules, do everyone a favor and boycott the place. That would make all sides happy
@@hugojack2005 Rights or not, if one has a condition that makes them a potential vector for everyone they come into contact with, they should be a responsible adult, self-quarantine, and make other arrangements to buy whatever they might need.
@@DanielVance heres something if u walk into a hospital and I have ebola deadly but not easily transmitable, they will quarantine and continue me till I am dead of recovered. I have no ability to leave on my own volition. If I try I will be arrested. Now with covid-19, the death rate is over 15 %. HOLY SHIT. Granted 30-40 are 60+ years. That leaves a huge segment of the population at risk. 1 spreader = 3 infected. Average. We let the fools out and last I read 74 "protesters" on Michigan have tested positive already and they can see the cell phone tracking they have infected thousands. Anyway, the deal is, when ones excercising of right infringes on my basic, foundational rights of LIFE, but Liberty, and happiness those harming me must be restrained.
Making an international health concern a political troll point is bonkers. But hey, with a name like heat o nic what do you expect? Somebody cool? No, a blowhard looking to get sombody hot under the collar. Doo doo heads abound
Commontary flipflops indicates HeatO probably doesnt even beleive what he says. He is just poking buttons like a kindergarden brat trying to figure out what he can get away with
This is a major reason why the infection and death rate in America is so much higher than the rest of the world. Too many Americans are confusing freedom with thinking they don't have a responsibility to protect the common good in a crisis. Can you imagine what would have happened to our country if Americans acted like that during World War 1 or 2? I love my freedom and there are many benefits of our individualistic culture over collectivistic ones, but this is not one of those times.
@Dimas Putra Here you are-- Education, Fun & for FREE: I can only post the facts for you... I can't 'understand them' for you too. That is ALL on YOU. Feel free to make your argument with the Medical Specialists who've been listed below. Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia. An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask. "More to the point, indoor airborne virus concentrations have been shown to exist (in day-care facilities, health centres, and onboard airplanes) primarily as aerosol particles of diameters smaller than 2.5 μm, such as in the work of Yang et al. (2011): If his view of the mechanism is correct (ie. "physical loss"), then Shaman's work further necessarily implies that the dryness-driven high transmissibility (large R0) arises from small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in the air; as opposed to larger droplets, which are quickly gravitationally removed from the air. Such small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in air, of biological origin, are of every variety and are everywhere, including down to virion-sizes (Depres, 2012). As a matter of fact Brooke et al. (2013) showed that, "contrary to prior modeling assumptions, although not all influenza-A-infected cells in the human body produce infectious progeny (virions), nonetheless, 90% of infected cell are significantly impacted, rather than simply surviving unharmed. All of that to say that: if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application. Therefore, the studies that show partial stopping power of masks, or that show that masks can capture many large droplets produced by a sneezing or coughing mask-wearer, in light of the above -described features of the problem, are IRRELEVANT." Baccam et al. (2006), Lowen et al. (2007), Zwart et al. (2009), Shaman et al. (2010), Viboud (2010), Yelzi and Otter (2011), bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the science evidence", Influenza, and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257-267. There were 17 eligible studies. (...) None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask / respirator use and protection against influenza infection." Brooke et al. (2013), Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934-1942, Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) "N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial", JAMA. 2019; 322(9):824-833. doing:10.1001/jama.2019. 11645, Paules and Subbaro (2017), Offeddu, V. et al. (2017)"Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis", CMAJ Mar 2016, Long, Y. et al. (2020) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis, J Evid Based Med. 2020 The W.H.O. has recently also come out against lockdowns and together w/ the medical evidence re: the efficacy of masks and how they DO NOT prevent the transmission, there is NO justification for mask mandates nor locking down the economy. I hope that clears it up for you.There's a lot of disinformation out there, causing people to panic and there's no need for panic, so B R E A T H E
As a former Canadian nurse, when I read what was happening overseas, I made a 3 layer mask and started wearing it in February 2020. People asked me if I was sick since I was the only one wearing one, and my response was “no, and I am not going to either”. Soon people were buying masks from me. If the CO2 in my mask is dangerous, then I must have died ages ago.
Such BS!!! I'm a Registered Nurse and I can wear a mask for my entire 12 hr shift feeling just fine! And surgeons/OR staff can operate on a person for 10+ hours without any issues but Karen can't breathe and she's afraid of her own CO2 intake while in the grocery store for 10 min???? UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!
Not tough BUT I will ALWAYS wear a mask when I'm asked to...Not to protect me but wearing it protects others from what I may expose them to from sneezing, talking, coughing etc.... Thank you though...I luv my profession :) It gives me so much satisfaction to go to work knowing that I might help someone feel better that day
If a mask is so bad for you, why have doctors worn them for literally centuries to prevent themselves from falling ill when treating sick people? Wearing a mask is such a small thing you can do to help people like me (as an asthmatic cancer patient) be able to go get groceries and not be terrified to leave my house. It is so sad that humanity has lost the decency to treat people with respect especially in regards to health. Please wear a mask.
@@beatasosinska4894 America, the dumb and the dead. It's no wonder even other developing countries are laughing at Americans and it's starting to have some serious brain drain issue because of people like you.
Did you wear masks while having an attack? And so would then no asthmatics have any issues? All asthmatic severity is the same? That's RIDICULOUS, and IF you're actually a nurse, shame on you for being so narrow in your analytical scope
@@zachman5150 Lol. Who keeps their mask on while having an attack. That's stupid. She's just making a point. I'd like to make one too. I have breathing difficulties. I wear a mask. I'm fine. You need some serious breathing issues to have a problem wearing one. Those people should be shielding.
@@amandah5478 Someone who's refilling a prescription, is out-- and needs it now because they're having an attack/episode, would make wearing a mask for them-- a problem, now wouldn't it? You asked... That sidesteps the macro issue that they (masks) don't stop the spread of viruses like covid, AND... In the history of infectious disease study-- asymptomatic carriers have never been the sources of outbreaks much less-- rise to the level of an epidemic or pandemic... EVER. It is ALWAYS a symptomatic carrier as the cause of an outbreak, epidemic and pandemic-- so there's ZERO justification for mask mandates nor lockdowns in the 1st place, is the only relevant focus-- and it's being missed by those who are reacting emotionally. Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia. An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask.
@@zachman5150 It is absolutely crucial that anyone who has asthma, wears a mask. Your scenario of a person. Who just happens to have asthma, who just happens to be having an attack, who just so happens to be getting their prescription at that moment, is just silly. Nobody is saying masks on their own stop covid. They help. A lot!. Along with hand washing, social distancing and staying home. A symptomatic people DO pass on the virus. So they can be the source of an outbreak. So there is every need to wear a mask!. In many places there are hospitals that have reached maximum capacity or ran out of oxygen. So lockdown is very much needed. People are stupid. As soon as things started looking good again, they got wreckless and you have the situation we're all in now. There is no evidence that you get bacterial pneumonia by wearing a mask. Unless you have an unwashed dirty mask. However there's loads of evidence that people are dying from Corona virus. So a normal person weighs up those odds. Hmmm. Millions dying of covid. No evidence of dying from bacterial pneumonia caused by masks. I know what I'm going to do. Wear a mask. I'm not a mask expert. I doubt you are either. But I know this. The virus particles are small. But. Crucially. They are bonded to much bigger particles that do not fit. Also. Masks are not like a sieve. Catching big stuff and the smaller stuff falls through the gaps. This isn't how they work. So your sizing logic is useless. Look it up.
Soooo true. I had a woman come up to me in a Science debate where I was arguing with flat earth era tell me that I have no right to comment on the topic and that I’m not a professional. She was a flat earthier herself. I’m a blooody ASTROPHYSICIST. I have a PhD in it and this woman tells me that IIII DONT HAVE A RIGHT OR THE KNOWLEDGE TO COMMENT ON THE TOPIC. Anyway. The debate was hysterical and I found the most idiotic person ever that day.
@@iamaghost7971 what does that have to do with masks .It's funny how doctors are saying exactly what she is saying and there information gets pulled off any Media platform immediately. And I do believe if you cut your percentage of oxygen intake levels a few hours a day for months on end probably not going to be any positve results common sense 101
@@jojowildman6377 Then why not exercise a few hours a week to increase your body's efficiency. Also: Nobody is spending "Hours a day for months on end" in Trader Joe's or any other shopping situation. Mask Deny all you want but don't make up phony scenarios.
@@DaysOfSnow Covid cannot pass through a mask? So you wear a proper fitted N95, of which the majority does not. Anything less than an N95 is like a pacifier next to a bottle. It may occupy you, and feel comforting, but it’s a dummy; substitute;. Read the recent CDC report on mask effectiveness. Yet still they recommend them. I have worn masks since 2012 due to auto immune illness and severe lung disease, and know more than I wish I did. I worry people are so easily fooled.
ludwigvanification lmfao the reason why your country is failing is because of people like you 🤣🤣🤣 Not a surprise at all.. Your country let Trump win. Oh americans 😂😂😂😂😂😂 RIP “United” states
The one thing historically that people need to realize is that even if there is some asymptomatic transmission; in ALL the history of respiratory airborne viruses of ANY type, asymptomatic transmission has NEVER been the driver of outbreaks. The driver of Outbreaks is ALWAYS a symptomatic person. Even if there is a rare asymptomatic person that 'might' transmit, and epidemic is NOT driven by asymptomatic carriers.
So let me see if I am understanding this correctly.... - “Karen” goes to Trader Joe’s WITH a mask - She is told that she cannot enter the store unless she puts the mask on - She puts the mask on - She goes into the store and then takes the mask off - The staff ask her to put the mask back on (“It puts the lotion on it’s skin, or else it gets the hose again”) because THEIR policy is that staff and customers must wear a mask inside the store - She refuses and after putting on her metaphorical science hat begins to spew out some nonsense about not wanting to breathe in her own CO2 by wearing the mask (at which point my mind wanders to a surgery room where doctors and nurses wear masks for hours on end without passing out from breathing in too much of their own CO2 🤔) - the manager calls the police to have Karen escorted out of the store for not following store procedure - Karen is astonished by the manager’s actions because OBVIOUSLY she is in the right here - Karen records much of their interaction and then gives us a demonstration of how she puts her mask on and how she takes her mask off (which many of us are grateful for because those masks sure can be confusing...oh wait, this is mostly TYT subscribers watching this, not trump cult members, so no demo needed here Karen So to summarize..... Karen planned to create a controversy Karen went out & created a controversy Karen does not want to breathe in CO2, but coronavirus flying into her nasal passageways, or ours? No problem! Karen is egocentric Don’t. Be. A. Karen.
If it later turns out that wearing a mask was useless, I won't be embarrassed. I'll be happy that I was willing to undergo a minor inconvenience to help keep those around me safe.
Surgeons performed surgeries that can last 8 to 10 hours or longer and they have to wear a mask the whole time. You don't see them getting CO2 poisoning.
As a nurse...with asthma...I have spent 45 plus years in the workforce wearing a mask for hours at a time many, many times without having problems 're-breathing' my CO2. How much actual CO2 you 're-breathe' is minimal at worst for crying out loud.
This woman is funny when she said "I don't want to breathe my own CO2". The clerk should have said "what makes you think other people want to breathe your goddamn CO2" ?
You can't go into there store without a mask period. Find another store, or shop online for your food. It's actually not that bad, it keeps your family safer and others safe.
@ludwigvanification This is about public safety period! This has nothing to do with human rights😂😂😂😂 it's called company policy during a global pandemic.
If the store requires a mask, wear one or stay out. It is their property. They have the right to make stipulations no matter what you think. Stay home with your rhetoric. Poor employees have enough to deal with without these self-entitled idiots.
Donna Day Are you kidding? That and lying about how great he is are quite literally the only things the worthless bastard has done in nearly four years.
You said it my coworker was assaulted and she's pregnant, by a man over that.first he hit her in the face with a pop can and then he threw a germ X bottle and broke it on her belly.
Through masks, we can't get enough oxygen which causes breathing problems and headache. You must have heard about bacteria in your ears getting 700x after wearing headphones. Can imagine how much bacteria are inside masks and due to our warm exhale, it gives boost for more production of bacteria and we keep breathing toxic bacterias. During 1918, there was flu pandemiC. Everyone had to wear masks social distancing etc. But after many year after pandemic got over, many doctors like Anthony fauci stated that "Mask wearers were the real killers in 1981. The more we investigated, the more we found that bacterias were the cause for most of the deaths, not flu". Moreover many scientists are being banned, censored and some like Professor Danis Ran- court who were working for big organization like Researchgate were banned for just showing evidence of how masks are real factors causing harm. www.newscientist.com/article/dn14458-bacteria-were-the-real-killers-in-1918-flu-pandemic#ixzz6cgajgm2o
Here you are-- Education, Fun & for FREE: I can only post the facts for you... I can't 'understand them' for you too. That is ALL on YOU. Feel free to make your argument with the Medical Specialists who've been listed below. Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia. An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask. "More to the point, indoor airborne virus concentrations have been shown to exist (in day-care facilities, health centres, and onboard airplanes) primarily as aerosol particles of diameters smaller than 2.5 μm, such as in the work of Yang et al. (2011): If his view of the mechanism is correct (ie. "physical loss"), then Shaman's work further necessarily implies that the dryness-driven high transmissibility (large R0) arises from small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in the air; as opposed to larger droplets, which are quickly gravitationally removed from the air. Such small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in air, of biological origin, are of every variety and are everywhere, including down to virion-sizes (Depres, 2012). As a matter of fact Brooke et al. (2013) showed that, "contrary to prior modeling assumptions, although not all influenza-A-infected cells in the human body produce infectious progeny (virions), nonetheless, 90% of infected cell are significantly impacted, rather than simply surviving unharmed. All of that to say that: if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application. Therefore, the studies that show partial stopping power of masks, or that show that masks can capture many large droplets produced by a sneezing or coughing mask-wearer, in light of the above -described features of the problem, are IRRELEVANT." Baccam et al. (2006), Lowen et al. (2007), Zwart et al. (2009), Shaman et al. (2010), Viboud (2010), Yelzi and Otter (2011), bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the science evidence", Influenza, and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257-267. There were 17 eligible studies. (...) None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask / respirator use and protection against influenza infection." Brooke et al. (2013), Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934-1942, Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) "N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial", JAMA. 2019; 322(9):824-833. doing:10.1001/jama.2019. 11645, Paules and Subbaro (2017), Offeddu, V. et al. (2017)"Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis", CMAJ Mar 2016, Long, Y. et al. (2020) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis, J Evid Based Med. 2020 I hope that clears it up for you.There's a lot of disinformation out there, causing people to panic and there's no need for panic, so B R E A T H E
The mask is not to prevent acquiring the virus, but in reducing transmission to others. Wearing a mask is out of consideration to others. That says a lot about refuseniks.
I just walk in maskless because science is on my side. As well as the law. Can you show me random controlled trials showing masks work wonders against any virus?
@@nicholaspeterurgero1675 it’s very simple wear the mask. Science is on your side? So if you catch carona then you shouldn’t be able to admitted to the hospital. It’s a simple ask. No one said give blood put on a darn mask. It’s not about you. Have lost to many people to this virus to have another dumb mask debate.
Respiratory therapist here..wearing a mask DOES NOT raise your CO2 levels..I’ve been wearing a mask for practically 12 hrs per day at work lately and I’m still alive!
Still alive for now! I wear a mask for my shifts at a nursing home and everyone has done so for a couple months now. People's throats are sore, dry noses, hard to breathe. Everyone complains about the mask! You are a lier if you say its fine to wear them constantly. Masks should NOT be continuous. Idk what kind you wear but we have N95 w/o respirators, they suck and are not fitted.
@Christopher Brown I would enjoy medical staff stop lying. You do not wear them constantly for 12 hrs. None of us do. In the hall we lower them and take a breath, go to bathroom to take a breath, go to break room to take a breath. Stop lying they are miserable. Should we use them when in patients rooms? Yes. Continuously? No.
@@christinamotz6290 i didnt see him saying that he wears the mask constantly for 12 hours a day. Also n95s are only used on airbourne diseases like tuberculosis and doctors can only use it for 15 minutes at most, at least here in our country
@@belagu4517 right so you made my point! There is no point in everyone running around in cloth masks. And I did see him saying he wears one for 12 hrs a day, that is misleading especially to those who never worked in health care. I am strongly encouraging people like him to be honest about what they are seeing, stop lying, and stop misleading. Our government is doing enough of that already!
Well even if you are the picture of health one day, doesn’t mean she won’t join the almost 500,000 others who have died from it the next. Viruses can attack anyone it comes in contact with.
Um, how exactly is she a threat to anyone, being a healthy person-- since in the entire history of airborne viruses, asymptomatic people have NEVER been the drivers of Outbreaks, and definitely not rising to the level of epidemic or pandemic, which are ALWAYS driven by symptomatic individuals? That is some hysterical nonsense you are promoting
@@zachman5150 it has ALWAYS been known, even with the flu, that you can be contagious BEFORE you start showing symptoms, the epidemiologists have been saying from the beginning of this you can be contagious with COVID for like up to 7 days before you start showing symptoms
Trader Joe’s is private property, they can require masks, not illegal. Karen has to wear shoes and a shirt to go in, what’s the big deal? If she doesn’t want to wear a mask fine, but she can’t enter private property when they require it. So sick of these selfish people. How people remain ignorant to the benefit of a mask is beyond me.
Wear a mask, don't wear a mask, you're free to do whatever you choose. Retail stores, organizations, schools, churches, etc. are also free to set their own rules and regulations. Don't want to follow their rules? Don't go there. I don't let people come into my house with their shoes on. Are you going to protest my no shoes in the house policy?
Your personal rights end where they infringe on mine! Your right to get sick and infect those who agree with you does not include a right to infect me. If you don't like Trader Joe's policy don't shop there, period.
Sky You said that beautifully, the problem is is that there are far to many people in these comments that believe people should be forced into wearing masks even if it’s not required.
My name is Karen and I absolutely hate it. The name bashing is everywhere on social media and if we real Karen's speak up, our name is used against us. I feel like I've lost my voice. I have been bullied, laughed at and ridiculed when i stood up for myself. It's hard on my mental health.
@@daftwod That was just a reference to something that bimbo Jenny McCarthy said years ago when someone challenged her antivaxx horseshit.. They asked what college she was educated at, she says "The University of Google!"
If breathing Co2 is deadly, I would have died a long time ago from wearing one in my 8-32 hour duty as a nurse. Lmaooo........ People, wear your damn mask!!!
Only those with weak compromised immunes will suffer. Its a big hoax, we've had Sars, Ebola etc much more learhal yet the world wasn't locked down. Whatever the sheep think, as long as noone challenges the "elite" we are heading for disaster! In fact we are nearly there! We will be forced to sit at home - this hasn't happened overnight, its been in the making for over five decades. They've pulled the biggest hoax and will get away!
She wondered why a store that made her wear a mask to go inside kicked her out because she went inside and took it off. Then, she made an update about how she's sick and will be okay. Well, that's nice. You just breathed all over that store that had other people in it.
THIS. This is what bothers me the most: if the mask isnt for you because you're SoOOoOo healthy, then it's for other people who aren't. Why is that so hard to understand!?
What about being a carrier? If you believe masks work and you're wearing one, why does it matter if someone else is wearing one or not? If they're healthy and asymptomatic, they're likely not contagious either, so again... What about being a carrier?
@@zachman5150 It’s been proven masks HELP, but don’t protect 100%. It helps not having other peoples spit, snot, and a bonus bad breath being ingested into others noses or mouths. You sound new to this party, where have ya been? I think anti-maskers are helping C19 along. It’s in the air ANYWHERE there is recirculating air, that has been proven! So being a carrier IS a actual fact. People who try to take care of themselves, yes even wearing masks, that get sick and might DIE, is a HUGE problem for their loved ones. I have a family member, who is also a health worker, and she has been VERY careful. But, because of some loser who doesn’t give a shit, probably a Trump supporter, is being a spoiled brat spewing their germs all around, she got sick! So Karen, I mean Zachary, that is what I mean by being a carrier!
@@unfailingcolt8928 Here you are-- Education, Fun & for FREE: I can only post the facts for you... I can't 'understand them' for you too. That is ALL on YOU. Feel free to make your argument with the Medical Specialists who've been listed below. Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia. An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask. "More to the point, indoor airborne virus concentrations have been shown to exist (in day-care facilities, health centres, and onboard airplanes) primarily as aerosol particles of diameters smaller than 2.5 μm, such as in the work of Yang et al. (2011): If his view of the mechanism is correct (ie. "physical loss"), then Shaman's work further necessarily implies that the dryness-driven high transmissibility (large R0) arises from small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in the air; as opposed to larger droplets, which are quickly gravitationally removed from the air. Such small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in air, of biological origin, are of every variety and are everywhere, including down to virion-sizes (Depres, 2012). As a matter of fact Brooke et al. (2013) showed that, "contrary to prior modeling assumptions, although not all influenza-A-infected cells in the human body produce infectious progeny (virions), nonetheless, 90% of infected cell are significantly impacted, rather than simply surviving unharmed. All of that to say that: if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application. Therefore, the studies that show partial stopping power of masks, or that show that masks can capture many large droplets produced by a sneezing or coughing mask-wearer, in light of the above -described features of the problem, are IRRELEVANT." Baccam et al. (2006), Lowen et al. (2007), Zwart et al. (2009), Shaman et al. (2010), Viboud (2010), Yelzi and Otter (2011), bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the science evidence", Influenza, and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257-267. There were 17 eligible studies. (...) None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask / respirator use and protection against influenza infection." Brooke et al. (2013), Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934-1942, Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) "N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial", JAMA. 2019; 322(9):824-833. doing:10.1001/jama.2019. 11645, Paules and Subbaro (2017), Offeddu, V. et al. (2017)"Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis", CMAJ Mar 2016, Long, Y. et al. (2020) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis, J Evid Based Med. 2020 The W.H.O. has recently also come out against lockdowns and together w/ the medical evidence re: the efficacy of masks and how they DO NOT prevent the transmission, there is NO justification for mask mandates nor locking down the economy. I hope that clears it up for you.There's a lot of disinformation out there, causing people to panic and there's no need for panic, so B R E A T H E
@@zachman5150 you are a ignorant and brainwashed IDIOT !! The reason why ,and they recently admitted to lying, why they told people not to wear a mask in the beginning ,was to preserve the mask for the Healthcare workers !!!!!thanks to your Trump who was selling our masks to china ,we had a shortage of masks !!!! Don't go to the hospital when you get covid and take the bed away from a more deserving person !!!!
@@ursulakele6670 I posted the peer-reviewed medical studies on the efficacy of masks at preventing the transmission of viruses and they all conclude that they do not, and failing to comprehend that makes YOU 'the idiot' in this conversation. I can only post the facts for you, I can't 'understand' them FOR you too.-- That's all on you babe and you're failing. If you don't take comfort from knowing that there's a 99%+ success rate with currently available treatment, then you are emotionally unhinged and remind me that Thomas Sowell is correct in his assessment of those like you when he said, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance"-- So-- You're Dismissed
"I have an immune system..." Are you suggesting that 146,000+ didn't have one? You can't argue with a stupid person, ignorance will beat learning every time.
@Benny Jet So there was never one single healthy person that died? Not one. Nope they've all gotta be 80 years old, or Asian or high risk. Must be nice to live forever.
@@Itosalix It's all about genetics, who has the best immune system on earth? People with weak immune systems are most likely to get sick from your 5g cell phone tower network. They figured out how to amplify the same flu virus and aim it at people. We have groups here in New York City who are taking down those cell phone towers, and all of a sudden no one is getting sick. People here in NYC are gathering in mass numbers and having a party as a protest. These party people are proving covid 19 is nothing but a hoax!
All these Karen's should be forced to stand in front of the over 500,000 families that have lost a loved one to covid and explain to them how covid is nothing
@@vtoday2010 u have no idea about whats going on in germany, right now our numbers are lower than they were at the beginning of 2020. Masks work, 2 people in my 35 people class had the corona virus and none of the rest were infected, i know that because we all got tested immediately
So all the doctors and nurses in the hospitals taking care of you everyday wearing masks have been endangering themselves for years? Yet they're still alive working for you!
Surgeons & nurses have been wearing masks forever and for hours at a time. Never heard of any of them getting ill from breathing in their own microorganisms.
Dr. Russell Blaylock well known neurosurgeon wrote this article; "Face Masks Pose Serious Risks to the Healthy." Some people cannot wear a mask for medical disability reasons; I am one such person. Even with a doctor's note, people feel the need to be rude and employees call police. If masks work than thats great, a person is free to wear one but someone who puts so little faith in their own mask that they feel the need to force me to wear one to my paral is just wrong.
Republicans: we want less government regulations !!! Republicans 2 hours after GameStop Robbinhood scheme: We demand more government oversight ... notice I’ll just keep commenting these hypocrisy with the more y’all reply.
You are correct sir. And this will be the biggest problem going forward. Ironically she also seems like the same person that wants to legislate morality to the rest of us "to protect our children" but is conspicuously absent on a real threat.
ludwigvanification But the lady in the video isn’t doing aerobics. And as for the surgeon sitting down, please provide a source that says that doing surgery while sitting down is possible. Also, a surgery’s time depends on what is being operated and what problems/complications may arise during surgery so saying that “they remain in surgery for a limited period of time” is a stretch since there is no time limit on the surgery itself. Now, a surgeon does wear a mask because they are in front of an open body and it’s sanitary, but the medical professionals have told us to wear a mask because when we breathe we breathe out bacteria. In a science daily article, it says “A person's mere presence in a room can add 37 million bacteria to the air every hour -- material largely left behind by previous occupants and stirred up from the floor -- according to new research.” And that bacteria is just from your presence, now imagine if you don’t have a mask and your breathing, that bacteria that you have inside of you will eventually come out and infect another person. Please read a book or at least get your head out of your ass. And next time provide sources like I did so you don’t look like an uneducated idiot.
@ludwigvanification I'm sure Karen wasn't planning to do cartwheels in the store. Nor was she likely to be in there longer than a doctor performing surgery. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make.....
Christopher Murillo sadly ... someone convinced of his/her opinion, isn’t openminded enough to a change of mind because of logical arguments. Every time you argue, they come up with counter arguments. That is what conspiracy theorists do. Finding ad hoc solutions to back themselves up.
@ludwigvanification That's not even the argument here. She's going into a store that requires a mask. She needs to get over it. Period. We are not talking about what she does or what other people do outside of this store. Just this store policy and her behavior in this moment.
You may have COVID and your immune system is working very well, but you can spread it and that someone may well have a weakened immune system, maybe from cancer (just one example). These people who only think of themselves are extremely selfish, are not nice people and very ignorant. I don't want to live in a world full of these type people.
Some of us don't have good immune systems. I have TWO autoimmune diseases. One is quite rare. Getting sick could literally be the end of me. Neither of my conditions are contagious but I wear a mask (with asthma and allergies to the fabics) because I have elderly parents AND because I could die if I get sick. I'm soooo happy for her that she's "healthy" but not everyone is soooo lucky or selfish. You're simply selfish if you refuse to wear a mask. Selfish...not right...not wrong...selfish and if you ever said "all lives matter"...you're also a liar and a hypocrite.
This is what self absorbed people do. They don’t think or care about some of us, who are more susceptible to catching things. But there the first ones rushing to the hospital/
This "Coronavirus Karen" is like the textbook example of someone with the Dunning-Krueger effect. She truly thinks she knows more than everyone else with minimal research
"I'm not going to breathe my own CO2. There are many researchers. " LMAO... Hahaha. Good god, if brains were dynamite, Karen wouldn't have enough to blow her nose.
Here you are-- Education, Fun & for FREE: I can only post the facts for you... I can't 'understand them' for you too. That is ALL on YOU. Feel free to make your argument with the Medical Specialists who've been listed below. Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia. An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask. "More to the point, indoor airborne virus concentrations have been shown to exist (in day-care facilities, health centres, and onboard airplanes) primarily as aerosol particles of diameters smaller than 2.5 μm, such as in the work of Yang et al. (2011): If his view of the mechanism is correct (ie. "physical loss"), then Shaman's work further necessarily implies that the dryness-driven high transmissibility (large R0) arises from small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in the air; as opposed to larger droplets, which are quickly gravitationally removed from the air. Such small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in air, of biological origin, are of every variety and are everywhere, including down to virion-sizes (Depres, 2012). As a matter of fact Brooke et al. (2013) showed that, "contrary to prior modeling assumptions, although not all influenza-A-infected cells in the human body produce infectious progeny (virions), nonetheless, 90% of infected cell are significantly impacted, rather than simply surviving unharmed. All of that to say that: if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application. Therefore, the studies that show partial stopping power of masks, or that show that masks can capture many large droplets produced by a sneezing or coughing mask-wearer, in light of the above -described features of the problem, are IRRELEVANT." Baccam et al. (2006), Lowen et al. (2007), Zwart et al. (2009), Shaman et al. (2010), Viboud (2010), Yelzi and Otter (2011), bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the science evidence", Influenza, and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257-267. There were 17 eligible studies. (...) None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask / respirator use and protection against influenza infection." Brooke et al. (2013), Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934-1942, Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) "N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial", JAMA. 2019; 322(9):824-833. doing:10.1001/jama.2019. 11645, Paules and Subbaro (2017), Offeddu, V. et al. (2017)"Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis", CMAJ Mar 2016, Long, Y. et al. (2020) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis, J Evid Based Med. 2020 I hope that clears it up for you.There's a lot of disinformation out there, causing people to panic and there's no need for panic, so B R E A T H E
@@zachman5150 You've gone from being nothing more than an arrogant idiot, and a nuisance, to making an average troll seem somehow engaging and credible. Bravo!
If it was true that wearing a mask was dangerous, then surgeons and medical staff would be sick. I’ve been wearing a mask for 10-12 hours a day...5 days a week. I’m fine
It's like the placebo effect. If you think that wearing a mask is dangerous than you will feel pain when wearing a mask. Most people are lucky because stupidity does not hurt.
@alien absolushun we are talking about masks. It's a simple question: is wearing a mask dangerous? Yes or No? That's no ideology, it's a simple question which can be answered with science. Science!! And by the way I'm working in healthcare facilities forever. I studied medical engineering. I was planning hospitals. I was working in hospitals. I am doing this my whole life. And like the original poster said: I know from my own experience how it is to wear a mask.
@Ben Siener Because there's so much else to talk about nowadays, COVID-19 is old news. But with all the protests and lack of social distancing, the United States is sure to see a sharp rise in COVID-19 cases and deaths soon enough
In 1918 flu pandemic, mask wearers were responsible for making flu worse as bacteria was kil*ing more people than flu itself. www.newscientist.com/article/dn14458-bacteria-were-the-real-killers-in-1918-flu-pandemic#ixzz6cgajgm2o
@@The_unexplained yep, I guess in that case medicine is medicine, and never changed. Food is food, and never changed. Cars never changed, buildings never changed... of course things since 1918 such as masks haven't changed 🤣
@@5p33dy777777 I was explaining that bacteria caused due to masks were responsible for making people sick and also resulted into fatal respiratory problems in 1918. Wearing masks in past and wearing masks in present both are same. Comparing them is foolish.
Lol. And those people need to stay home! You should also stay home until you can carry on normally! I have every right to choose not to wear a mask and I have no obligation to your health. This is a nation ruled by law. Not by health risk moron. People with weak immune systems usually made themselves that way due to their poor choices! Should we close down the beaches because people drown? Should we demand sunblock is enforced everywhere because the sun causes cancer? Should we outlaw foods that cause heart problems and lead to death and weakened immune systems? Or alcohol and cigarettes which also cause this? Nope so we aren’t going to tell normal people to wear masks. If you have a health problem you need to take care of yourself, no one is obligated to do this for you. This type of talk is harassment and anti American. We can’t even prove covid exists by isolating it. We can however prove cancer is caused by alcohol, cigarettes, and poor diet… yet you want to go after an unproven sickness that didn’t kill people because it doesn’t technically exist? Go regulate a fat mans diet, follow him around the store and force him to buy greens and health foods…. Lol 😂 seriously just stay home and mind your own business. Stay out of mine
@@hippiegypsygirl no you said people with health issues should stay home that makes you a selfish bratt. This moron as you called me is happy to wear a mask if it makes others feel safer.
@@humblehalfacre8464 wow. Hit a nerve did it? Answer is everyone who is not wearing a mask is selfish. If both of you are not wearing a mask, then both of you are selfish and deserve whatever you get.
She also had the option to not be there - she WAS trying to give the guy a hard time by deliberately walking into the store and refusing to wear a mask. And then she wants to give us an update, like we care.
Imagine harassing somebody for 20 minutes.. She could have just put the mask on for 5 minutes or walked away.. Imagine being such a narcissist.
If she simply put the mask on, she couldnt then feel superior..
@Ray Thomas You spelt *narcissistic moron wrong.
Or *moronic narcissist. . . Take your pick ;D
Exactly!!
ColinIngus1
You did understand what was said right? Why would someone care how ppl misspell anyhow!
@@yolyprog2561 It was a follow up to Rays joke claiming OP spelt moron wrong in response to OP stating narcissist.
Unfortunately it seems to have fallen flat.
I meant no offence or criticism towards Ray, as his spelling was actually correct
This lady acts like she was the first person to discover the “immune system” 😂
Haha
Haha. I don’t know how stupid people make it to the age they are! 🙄
😂😂😂
That's why shes Karen duh 🤣
Some say she has a square peg, that fits a round hole...
The worst thing about her is how smart and educated she thinks she is
It's called the Dunning-Kruger theory. Check it out
@@charlottewilson3031i look it up, it's an interesting theory
@@charlottewilson3031 and your post is called "projection."
Look it up.
Key word thinks
Maybe the worst thing is,,, there are millions just like her.
what she meant to say was , she couldnt stand to smell her own breath lol
Which makes her a mouth-breather.
Yes, that would be a killer. And I bet she's single. 👍))
@@daveman5860 grumbler...arrogant...maybe thats why there's an influx of mixed relationships (asian female/white male courtship)
@Cosmic Brownie every breath you take in is about 20% oxygen and whatever you breathe out is about 15% oxygen, so your body only needs 5%.
She is just giving a worker a hard time. What an annoying person. Stupid people don’t know they are stupid.
It's called the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
That is so true. In fact, some of them think they are geniuses!
Truth
She's so proud of her ignorance.
@@daftwod it not the religious. It the way they are brought up.
@@daftwod you need to differentiate between religious people and extremists
@@daftwod awwww how adorable someone who doesn't respect other people's beliefs
@@daftwod extremist: a person who holds extreme political or religious views, one who advocates illegal, violent, or other extreme actions
Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods
Lmao you thought you were doing something you clown 🤡
@@daftwod yes I would respect your beliefs cause not everyone is an extremist for eg. Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr., Malala Yousafzai are all examples of people who have faith in their religions and would you say there are extremists? No cause I would be uneducated if Nelson Mandela didn't free my country from racial segregation and I do agree every religion has people who are extremists but my point is that not everyone who is believes in a certain religion is an extremist. If every person who is religious were to be an extremist trust me mate you'd be dead by now and the civilization would be destroyed already so get your head out of the idea that religious people are bad and go ahead and give me more examples of your pov so continue to live in your glorified bubble too
I can’t handle ignorant people. It is exhausting.
Hey Follow the yellow brick road an stop doing drugs 😂 😂
So true 👍
Welp, my friend .... welcome and brace yourself for the joys of the right-wing trolls of the TH-cam comment section.
CONGRATS!! YOUVE FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THE INTERNET
come here baby...I got something you can handle.....lol
Wait. So let me understand this. She's willing to follow the rules and wear a mask to get INTO the store, but not once inside. Does anyone else see the problem here?
Dear Genevieve, if wearing a mask is unhealthy, don't you think DOCTORS who wear them for multiple hours in surgeries would have figured that out? Sheesh.
Doctors wear medical masks... not those cute ones sold at every check out stand. You've been conned! SHEESE!
@@humblehalfacre8464 my brother is a doctor and they wear mask. I'm tired of idiots putting people's lives in jeopardy. Put the mask and shut up you don't like it there are services that deliver
@@humblehalfacre8464 I watch army and air force service members run miles with weights, do push-up, and various other excersises IN MASKS. If they can do ALL of that in a mask there is no excuse to not wear a mask.
@@humblehalfacre8464 yup. And the medical masks are harder to breathe in than those cute ones sold at checkout stands.
I wonder how she would feel if she’s ever in surgery if her doctors and nurses don’t wear masks while they’re operating. Hey, they’re perfectly healthy! There are no germs in an operating room, right?
They should be the last people to get a hospital bed in these shortages.
And the vaccine.
Yes fully agree, guess you can't excuse stupidity. They should also get Darwin awards given to those too stupid to be allowed to pass on genes
Shaheen...you must be one of those who push for Sharia law. Makes sense why you want everyone's face coveres.
@@beequinn5204 so if you love Darwin....isnt this exactly what your science teaches you is inevitable? Survival of the fittest after all.
Your opinion is the equivalent to the tides of the ocean. Back and forth, to and fro. No firm foundation.
Just willy nilliness.
@@daftwod gotta love the blatant racism.
Sorry Karen coronavirus doesn’t have a manager.
Well if it did the Manager would be nothing to sneeze at....
🤣
Ya actually she does, it's Bill Gates. The guy trying to murder you.
@@zj2707 A bit too far fetched to blame the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation when the virus originated in China. The Western Elites have no hand on China.
Z J Don’t let the tin foil get the better of you
Total rubbish the amount of oxygen exhaled is more than the co2 exhaled (16% oxygen 4% CO2) This woman needs to do her research or get some more education!! This is why mouth to mouth resuscitation is so effective in an emergency!
No shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service. Management reserves the right to refuse service.
Daniel Vance exactly, Trader Joe’s is private property. If you don’t like the rules, do everyone a favor and boycott the place. That would make all sides happy
“It’s only private until your rules affect me” -Right wingers
A lot of these rights they claim are afforded to them by and are protecting them from the federal government.
@@hugojack2005 Rights or not, if one has a condition that makes them a potential vector for everyone they come into contact with, they should be a responsible adult, self-quarantine, and make other arrangements to buy whatever they might need.
@@DanielVance heres something if u walk into a hospital and I have ebola deadly but not easily transmitable, they will quarantine and continue me till I am dead of recovered. I have no ability to leave on my own volition. If I try I will be arrested. Now with covid-19, the death rate is over 15 %. HOLY SHIT. Granted 30-40 are 60+ years. That leaves a huge segment of the population at risk. 1 spreader = 3 infected. Average. We let the fools out and last I read 74 "protesters" on Michigan have tested positive already and they can see the cell phone tracking they have infected thousands. Anyway, the deal is, when ones excercising of right infringes on my basic, foundational rights of LIFE, but Liberty, and happiness those harming me must be restrained.
Do people not realize Doctors and Nurse and other health care workers wear masks constantly? Her argument was so faulty it hurt my brain
It's absolutely a inconvenience yes. But my comfort level is less important than people's lives
Making an international health concern a political troll point is bonkers. But hey, with a name like heat o nic what do you expect? Somebody cool? No, a blowhard looking to get sombody hot under the collar. Doo doo heads abound
Commontary flipflops indicates HeatO probably doesnt even beleive what he says. He is just poking buttons like a kindergarden brat trying to figure out what he can get away with
This is a major reason why the infection and death rate in America is so much higher than the rest of the world. Too many Americans are confusing freedom with thinking they don't have a responsibility to protect the common good in a crisis. Can you imagine what would have happened to our country if Americans acted like that during World War 1 or 2? I love my freedom and there are many benefits of our individualistic culture over collectivistic ones, but this is not one of those times.
The 3,500 Americans who died today from COVID had immune systems, too.
Don’t like the mask, 😂 I am positive she will not like a ventilator!
Nah just let her do as she like and took off the ventilator..if shes struggling to breath, just remind her that "masks and ventilators arent safe uwu"
Masks don't protect you nor anyone else
@Dimas Putra the dumb ones yeah, not the smart ones
@Dimas Putra NEVER wah, NEVER will 😎
@Dimas Putra Here you are-- Education, Fun & for FREE: I can only post the facts for you... I can't 'understand them' for you too. That is ALL on YOU. Feel free to make your argument with the Medical Specialists who've been listed below.
Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia.
An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask.
"More to the point, indoor airborne virus concentrations have been shown to exist (in day-care facilities, health centres, and onboard airplanes) primarily as aerosol particles of diameters smaller than 2.5 μm, such as in the work of Yang et al. (2011): If his view of the mechanism is correct (ie. "physical loss"), then Shaman's work further necessarily implies that the dryness-driven high transmissibility (large R0) arises from small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in the air; as opposed to larger droplets, which are quickly gravitationally removed from the air. Such small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in air, of biological origin, are of every variety and are everywhere, including down to virion-sizes (Depres, 2012).
As a matter of fact Brooke et al. (2013) showed that, "contrary to prior modeling assumptions, although not all influenza-A-infected cells in the human body produce infectious progeny (virions), nonetheless, 90% of infected cell are significantly impacted, rather than simply surviving unharmed.
All of that to say that: if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application.
Therefore, the studies that show partial stopping power of masks, or that show that masks can capture many large droplets produced by a sneezing or coughing mask-wearer, in light of the above -described features of the problem, are IRRELEVANT."
Baccam et al. (2006), Lowen et al. (2007), Zwart et al. (2009), Shaman et al. (2010), Viboud (2010), Yelzi and Otter (2011), bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the science evidence", Influenza, and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257-267. There were 17 eligible studies. (...) None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask / respirator use and protection against influenza infection." Brooke et al. (2013), Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934-1942, Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) "N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial", JAMA. 2019; 322(9):824-833. doing:10.1001/jama.2019. 11645, Paules and Subbaro (2017), Offeddu, V. et al. (2017)"Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis", CMAJ Mar 2016, Long, Y. et al. (2020) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis, J Evid Based Med. 2020
The W.H.O. has recently also come out against lockdowns and together w/ the medical evidence re: the efficacy of masks and how they DO NOT prevent the transmission, there is NO justification for mask mandates nor locking down the economy.
I hope that clears it up for you.There's a lot of disinformation out there, causing people to panic and there's no need for panic, so
B R E A T H E
I wear an n95 mask at work for 12 hours. These people are out of their minds
@ShadowKnight8 here we go. If you don’t want to wear a mask don’t. I’ll let natural selection do its job 😂
There is no way to deal with someone like this. Reality and facts mean nothing!
I got a buddy like that, it's both horrifying and frustrating cause they think they are the smartest people in the room
As a former Canadian nurse, when I read what was happening overseas, I made a 3 layer mask and started wearing it in February 2020. People asked me if I was sick since I was the only one wearing one, and my response was “no, and I am not going to either”. Soon people were buying masks from me.
If the CO2 in my mask is dangerous, then I must have died ages ago.
No shirt no shoes no mask no service. That simple.
She is completely healthy but doesnt want to breathe her Co2. So she wants everyone else to beathe her Co2.
Such BS!!! I'm a Registered Nurse and I can wear a mask for my entire 12 hr shift feeling just fine! And surgeons/OR staff can operate on a person for 10+ hours without any issues but Karen can't breathe and she's afraid of her own CO2 intake while in the grocery store for 10 min???? UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!
You sound like one tough cookie. Unfortunately not everyone is as tough as you are.
Not tough BUT I will ALWAYS wear a mask when I'm asked to...Not to protect me but wearing it protects others from what I may expose them to from sneezing, talking, coughing etc.... Thank you though...I luv my profession :) It gives me so much satisfaction to go to work knowing that I might help someone feel better that day
Gianna's Mom Im happy you love it, I know there’s a lot of people in the healthcare field that are in it for the wrong reasons.
@@ji1072 Thank you for clarifying that and more importantly thank you for your service!!
Thank you so much for risking your life to protect us, have a great day!
"There's many researchers"
- Karen, 2020
She’s talking about the immune system like she discovered it
She read about it at the Flat Earth website! 🤣
Lol
deycallmemari she is not talking about it: she is lecturing us ( she has gotten a PhD from the Reader’s Digest University of Bullshitery)
She is old 😋
@@anthonysmith394 old doesn't necessarely mean senile! let say she is senile! poor thing!
Karen gets no ventilator. No sympathy. No bailouts.
If a mask is so bad for you, why have doctors worn them for literally centuries to prevent themselves from falling ill when treating sick people? Wearing a mask is such a small thing you can do to help people like me (as an asthmatic cancer patient) be able to go get groceries and not be terrified to leave my house. It is so sad that humanity has lost the decency to treat people with respect especially in regards to health. Please wear a mask.
Go and look for the lost brain
@@beatasosinska4894 nah i think youre the one who lost it
@@beatasosinska4894 you lost yours? Let me help you.
@@beatasosinska4894 America, the dumb and the dead. It's no wonder even other developing countries are laughing at Americans and it's starting to have some serious brain drain issue because of people like you.
Karen : "We have these things called immune systems."
Other People : "And we have these things called a brain which you don't have."
other poeple(again): oh and also midset and common sense, oh wait u dont have a brain
karen: .......
She speaks about breathing in her own carbon dioxide...is she breathing into a balloon?
I am a RN and wore masks for years with asthma. No issues!
Did you wear masks while having an attack? And so would then no asthmatics have any issues? All asthmatic severity is the same? That's RIDICULOUS, and IF you're actually a nurse, shame on you for being so narrow in your analytical scope
@@zachman5150 Lol. Who keeps their mask on while having an attack. That's stupid.
She's just making a point.
I'd like to make one too. I have breathing difficulties. I wear a mask. I'm fine. You need some serious breathing issues to have a problem wearing one. Those people should be shielding.
@@amandah5478 Someone who's refilling a prescription, is out-- and needs it now because they're having an attack/episode, would make wearing a mask for them-- a problem, now wouldn't it? You asked...
That sidesteps the macro issue that they (masks) don't stop the spread of viruses like covid,
AND...
In the history of infectious disease study-- asymptomatic carriers have never been the sources of outbreaks much less-- rise to the level of an epidemic or pandemic... EVER.
It is ALWAYS a symptomatic carrier as the cause of an outbreak, epidemic and pandemic-- so there's ZERO justification for mask mandates nor lockdowns in the 1st place, is the only relevant focus-- and it's being missed by those who are reacting emotionally.
Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia.
An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask.
@@zachman5150 It is absolutely crucial that anyone who has asthma, wears a mask. Your scenario of a person. Who just happens to have asthma, who just happens to be having an attack, who just so happens to be getting their prescription at that moment, is just silly.
Nobody is saying masks on their own stop covid. They help. A lot!. Along with hand washing, social distancing and staying home.
A symptomatic people DO pass on the virus. So they can be the source of an outbreak. So there is every need to wear a mask!. In many places there are hospitals that have reached maximum capacity or ran out of oxygen. So lockdown is very much needed. People are stupid. As soon as things started looking good again, they got wreckless and you have the situation we're all in now.
There is no evidence that you get bacterial pneumonia by wearing a mask. Unless you have an unwashed dirty mask. However there's loads of evidence that people are dying from Corona virus. So a normal person weighs up those odds. Hmmm. Millions dying of covid. No evidence of dying from bacterial pneumonia caused by masks. I know what I'm going to do. Wear a mask.
I'm not a mask expert. I doubt you are either. But I know this. The virus particles are small. But. Crucially. They are bonded to much bigger particles that do not fit. Also. Masks are not like a sieve. Catching big stuff and the smaller stuff falls through the gaps. This isn't how they work. So your sizing logic is useless. Look it up.
@@zachman5150 karen alert
Why do people who barely passed high school science classes want to pretend that they are doctors??
Ask all Trump supporters. A lot of them use facebook post from fellow supporters.
Soooo true. I had a woman come up to me in a Science debate where I was arguing with flat earth era tell me that I have no right to comment on the topic and that I’m not a professional. She was a flat earthier herself. I’m a blooody ASTROPHYSICIST. I have a PhD in it and this woman tells me that IIII DONT HAVE A RIGHT OR THE KNOWLEDGE TO COMMENT ON THE TOPIC. Anyway. The debate was hysterical and I found the most idiotic person ever that day.
@@iamaghost7971 what does that have to do with masks .It's funny how doctors are saying exactly what she is saying and there information gets pulled off any Media platform immediately. And I do believe if you cut your percentage of oxygen intake levels a few hours a day for months on end probably not going to be any positve results common sense 101
Because they barely passed HS biology LOL
@@jojowildman6377 Then why not exercise a few hours a week to increase your body's efficiency.
Also: Nobody is spending "Hours a day for months on end" in Trader Joe's or any other shopping situation.
Mask Deny all you want but don't make up phony scenarios.
I am a former OR Nurse, we all wore masks with every single case. None of us complained or suffered any effects from (CO2) breathing our own air.
exactly bc oxygen and carbon dioxide are small enough to be able to pass through the masks and COVID isnt. ppl dont get it
@@DaysOfSnow Covid cannot pass through a mask? So you wear a proper fitted N95, of which the majority does not. Anything less than an N95 is like a pacifier next to a bottle. It may occupy you, and feel comforting, but it’s a dummy; substitute;. Read the recent CDC report on mask effectiveness. Yet still they recommend them. I have worn masks since 2012 due to auto immune illness and severe lung disease, and know more than I wish I did. I worry people are so easily fooled.
The dude at Trader Joe’s could be at risk. Who gives two shits about her immune system, it’s that worker that’s my concern.
ludwigvanification lmfao the reason why your country is failing is because of people like you 🤣🤣🤣
Not a surprise at all.. Your country let Trump win. Oh americans 😂😂😂😂😂😂
RIP “United” states
The one thing historically that people need to realize is that even if there is some asymptomatic transmission; in ALL the history of respiratory airborne viruses of ANY type, asymptomatic transmission has NEVER been the driver of outbreaks.
The driver of Outbreaks is ALWAYS a symptomatic person.
Even if there is a rare asymptomatic person that 'might' transmit, and epidemic is NOT driven by asymptomatic carriers.
This lady is wrong CO2 is not the problem here it’s the oxygen that’s wasted on her....
LOL!!!
So let me see if I am understanding this correctly....
- “Karen” goes to Trader Joe’s WITH a mask
- She is told that she cannot enter the store unless she puts the mask on
- She puts the mask on
- She goes into the store and then takes the mask off
- The staff ask her to put the mask back on (“It puts the lotion on it’s skin, or else it gets the hose again”) because THEIR policy is that staff and customers must wear a mask inside the store
- She refuses and after putting on her metaphorical science hat begins to spew out some nonsense about not wanting to breathe in her own CO2 by wearing the mask (at which point my mind wanders to a surgery room where doctors and nurses wear masks for hours on end without passing out from breathing in too much of their own CO2 🤔)
- the manager calls the police to have Karen escorted out of the store for not following store procedure
- Karen is astonished by the manager’s actions because OBVIOUSLY she is in the right here
- Karen records much of their interaction and then gives us a demonstration of how she puts her mask on and how she takes her mask off (which many of us are grateful for because those masks sure can be confusing...oh wait, this is mostly TYT subscribers watching this, not trump cult members, so no demo needed here Karen
So to summarize.....
Karen planned to create a controversy
Karen went out & created a controversy
Karen does not want to breathe in CO2,
but coronavirus flying into her nasal passageways, or ours? No problem!
Karen is egocentric
Don’t. Be. A. Karen.
✓
If it later turns out that wearing a mask was useless, I won't be embarrassed. I'll be happy that I was willing to undergo a minor inconvenience to help keep those around me safe.
Thank you from those of us who are compromised. Bless you I am so grateful
A big thumbs up! 👍👏👏
Surgeons performed surgeries that can last 8 to 10 hours or longer and they have to wear a mask the whole time. You don't see them getting CO2 poisoning.
But there are many researchers!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@staciesheppard2048 Karen's researchers include Alex Jones and fringe websites that have glaring spelling and grammatical mistakes
Nurse been wearing a mask 25 years at work. Goodbye crazy 🇨🇦
thank you! it's crazy that I know fellow nurses who believe some of this crap!
@@hotchocnini08 my mothers a nurse but knows better lmao
"It's harmful because you are breathing your own C02." Yeah tell that to Japan who has been wearing masks for YEARS with absolutely no problems.
As a nurse...with asthma...I have spent 45 plus years in the workforce wearing a mask for hours at a time many, many times without having problems 're-breathing' my CO2. How much actual CO2 you 're-breathe' is minimal at worst for crying out loud.
...and these people continue to insist they only want to breathe in pure oxygen. So, I think we should let them...and see how things will turn out.
This woman is funny when she said "I don't want to breathe my own CO2". The clerk should have said "what makes you think other people want to breathe your goddamn CO2" ?
That was a solid response
You can't go into there store without a mask period. Find another store, or shop online for your food. It's actually not that bad, it keeps your family safer and others safe.
@ludwigvanification This is about public safety period! This has nothing to do with human rights😂😂😂😂 it's called company policy during a global pandemic.
Just a thought, if you're so worried about breathing your own CO2, then stop talking so effin' much.
You can write a whole essay about not wearing a mask.Im gonna still wear mine.
If the store requires a mask, wear one or stay out. It is their property. They have the right to make stipulations no matter what you think. Stay home with your rhetoric. Poor employees have enough to deal with without these self-entitled idiots.
Yes. Had one today at work complaining about wearing a mask. Private property rules or go home.
@goodolgirlz don't think trump goes around picking on people.
Donna Day Are you kidding? That and lying about how great he is are quite literally the only things the worthless bastard has done in nearly four years.
Donna Day stop thinking... it’s clearly not helping you.
You said it my coworker was assaulted and she's pregnant, by a man over that.first he hit her in the face with a pop can and then he threw a germ X bottle and broke it on her belly.
Breathing your own co2 is safer than believing your own BS
Then, Global warming is now a non-issue? Awesome! Thanks for clearing that up
🤣
@@zachman5150 I stand in awe of your total idiocy!
Through masks, we
can't get enough oxygen which
causes breathing problems
and headache. You must have
heard about bacteria in your
ears getting 700x after wearing
headphones. Can imagine how
much bacteria are inside masks
and due to our warm exhale, it
gives boost for more production
of bacteria and we keep
breathing toxic bacterias. During
1918, there was flu pandemiC.
Everyone had to wear masks
social distancing etc. But after
many year after pandemic got
over, many doctors like Anthony
fauci stated that "Mask wearers
were the real killers in 1981. The
more we investigated, the more
we found that bacterias were the
cause for most of the deaths, not
flu". Moreover many scientists
are being banned, censored and
some like Professor Danis Ran-
court who were working for big
organization like Researchgate
were banned for just showing
evidence of how masks are real
factors causing harm.
www.newscientist.com/article/dn14458-bacteria-were-the-real-killers-in-1918-flu-pandemic#ixzz6cgajgm2o
Ugh so she wants us to breathe her CO2? No thanks keep it in your mask lady lol
I'm so sick of the Covidiots!
Use self defense laws and use a gun and shoot them.
does she think she’s teaching anyone anything about anything other than the white privilege that she has enjoyed for FAR too long
Here you are-- Education, Fun & for FREE: I can only post the facts for you... I can't 'understand them' for you too. That is ALL on YOU. Feel free to make your argument with the Medical Specialists who've been listed below.
Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia.
An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask.
"More to the point, indoor airborne virus concentrations have been shown to exist (in day-care facilities, health centres, and onboard airplanes) primarily as aerosol particles of diameters smaller than 2.5 μm, such as in the work of Yang et al. (2011): If his view of the mechanism is correct (ie. "physical loss"), then Shaman's work further necessarily implies that the dryness-driven high transmissibility (large R0) arises from small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in the air; as opposed to larger droplets, which are quickly gravitationally removed from the air. Such small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in air, of biological origin, are of every variety and are everywhere, including down to virion-sizes (Depres, 2012).
As a matter of fact Brooke et al. (2013) showed that, "contrary to prior modeling assumptions, although not all influenza-A-infected cells in the human body produce infectious progeny (virions), nonetheless, 90% of infected cell are significantly impacted, rather than simply surviving unharmed.
All of that to say that: if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application.
Therefore, the studies that show partial stopping power of masks, or that show that masks can capture many large droplets produced by a sneezing or coughing mask-wearer, in light of the above -described features of the problem, are IRRELEVANT."
Baccam et al. (2006), Lowen et al. (2007), Zwart et al. (2009), Shaman et al. (2010), Viboud (2010), Yelzi and Otter (2011), bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the science evidence", Influenza, and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257-267. There were 17 eligible studies. (...) None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask / respirator use and protection against influenza infection." Brooke et al. (2013), Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934-1942, Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) "N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial", JAMA. 2019; 322(9):824-833. doing:10.1001/jama.2019. 11645, Paules and Subbaro (2017), Offeddu, V. et al. (2017)"Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis", CMAJ Mar 2016, Long, Y. et al. (2020) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis, J Evid Based Med. 2020
I hope that clears it up for you.There's a lot of disinformation out there, causing people to panic and there's no need for panic, so
B R E A T H E
Store policy of a privately owned company.
Wear a mask or leave.
Its literally that simple.
Unless you are the President
The mask is not to prevent acquiring the virus, but in reducing transmission to others. Wearing a mask is out of consideration to others. That says a lot about refuseniks.
If you don’t wanna wear it. Order your groceries online, have it delivered.
I just walk in maskless because science is on my side. As well as the law. Can you show me random controlled trials showing masks work wonders against any virus?
@@nicholaspeterurgero1675 it’s very simple wear the mask. Science is on your side? So if you catch carona then you shouldn’t be able to admitted to the hospital. It’s a simple ask. No one said give blood put on a darn mask. It’s not about you. Have lost to many people to this virus to have another dumb mask debate.
@Gregor Constance that’s your opinion that’s for sharing. You have yours I have mine. Have a wonderful Tuesday.
@@OneBDennis i come first i will not wear one and that's finial
Don’t you Just hate these Karen’s.
She’s going to learn what uncomfortable really feels like.
I think she already knows what uncomfortable is, to the highest degree. Cuz she has to look at herself in the mirror everyday.
Respiratory therapist here..wearing a mask DOES NOT raise your CO2 levels..I’ve been wearing a mask for practically 12 hrs per day at work lately and I’m still alive!
Logic dont work against them
Still alive for now! I wear a mask for my shifts at a nursing home and everyone has done so for a couple months now. People's throats are sore, dry noses, hard to breathe. Everyone complains about the mask! You are a lier if you say its fine to wear them constantly. Masks should NOT be continuous. Idk what kind you wear but we have N95 w/o respirators, they suck and are not fitted.
@Christopher Brown I would enjoy medical staff stop lying. You do not wear them constantly for 12 hrs. None of us do. In the hall we lower them and take a breath, go to bathroom to take a breath, go to break room to take a breath. Stop lying they are miserable. Should we use them when in patients rooms? Yes. Continuously? No.
@@christinamotz6290 i didnt see him saying that he wears the mask constantly for 12 hours a day. Also n95s are only used on airbourne diseases like tuberculosis and doctors can only use it for 15 minutes at most, at least here in our country
@@belagu4517 right so you made my point! There is no point in everyone running around in cloth masks. And I did see him saying he wears one for 12 hrs a day, that is misleading especially to those who never worked in health care. I am strongly encouraging people like him to be honest about what they are seeing, stop lying, and stop misleading. Our government is doing enough of that already!
She might be healthy but other people might not be. She doesn't care for anyone but herself.
Well even if you are the picture of health one day, doesn’t mean she won’t join the almost 500,000 others who have died from it the next. Viruses can attack anyone it comes in contact with.
Um, how exactly is she a threat to anyone, being a healthy person-- since in the entire history of airborne viruses, asymptomatic people have NEVER been the drivers of Outbreaks, and definitely not rising to the level of epidemic or pandemic, which are ALWAYS driven by symptomatic individuals?
That is some hysterical nonsense you are promoting
@@zachman5150 you cannot be this fuckin stupid
@@zachman5150 it has ALWAYS been known, even with the flu, that you can be contagious BEFORE you start showing symptoms, the epidemiologists have been saying from the beginning of this you can be contagious with COVID for like up to 7 days before you start showing symptoms
All Republicans only think of themselves! It's in their DNA. It's called "Poorly educated". 😂
I wonder if a surgeon about to do surgery said to her that he needed to not wear a mask because of CO2.
Trader Joe’s is private property, they can require masks, not illegal. Karen has to wear shoes and a shirt to go in, what’s the big deal? If she doesn’t want to wear a mask fine, but she can’t enter private property when they require it. So sick of these selfish people. How people remain ignorant to the benefit of a mask is beyond me.
“I don’t want to breath my own CO2!” It’s more like “I don’t want to smell the shit coming out of my mouth.”
Wear a mask, don't wear a mask, you're free to do whatever you choose. Retail stores, organizations, schools, churches, etc. are also free to set their own rules and regulations. Don't want to follow their rules? Don't go there. I don't let people come into my house with their shoes on. Are you going to protest my no shoes in the house policy?
amen
Well said! Exactly! We have a no shoes in the house rule as well. If you can’t abide by my rules...then you’re not welcome in my home. PERIOD!
Your personal rights end where they infringe on mine! Your right to get sick and infect those who agree with you does not include a right to infect me. If you don't like Trader Joe's policy don't shop there, period.
Sky You said that beautifully, the problem is is that there are far to many people in these comments that believe people should be forced into wearing masks even if it’s not required.
@@KLeigh-ts2ih can you tell me more about what you mean?
I wear a mask for 6 hours straight and I have no problems with it
Super Karen don’t care about everyone else. Just herself. What a surprise *rolls eyes*
I truly feel bad for the perfectly normal ladies with the name Karen...
Isn't it ridiculous how people have latched onto that name?
My boss's name is Karen. She's super sweet! I def feel for her!
The haircut is more important than the name.
My name is Karen and I absolutely hate it. The name bashing is everywhere on social media and if we real Karen's speak up, our name is used against us. I feel like I've lost my voice. I have been bullied, laughed at and ridiculed when i stood up for myself. It's hard on my mental health.
@@daftwod for some reason I fail to see how that makes it better
Dont worry, Karen has a PHD in Google, and besides she can just pray it away
@@daftwod That was just a reference to something that bimbo Jenny McCarthy said years ago when someone challenged her antivaxx horseshit.. They asked what college she was educated at, she says "The University of Google!"
If breathing Co2 is deadly, I would have died a long time ago from wearing one in my 8-32 hour duty as a nurse. Lmaooo........
People, wear your damn mask!!!
@yo mama what about the millions of nurses and surgeons wearing masks most time of the day their whole lives huh what about them
"If I put my mask I breathe my own CO2"
You are breathing CO2 since you were born. Like these days you should not underestimate anyone's stupidity😑
The point is not whether you’re healthy and can fight the virus, the point is to not spread this virus and infect weaker, elderly people
Only those with weak compromised immunes will suffer. Its a big hoax, we've had Sars, Ebola etc much more learhal yet the world wasn't locked down. Whatever the sheep think, as long as noone challenges the "elite" we are heading for disaster! In fact we are nearly there! We will be forced to sit at home - this hasn't happened overnight, its been in the making for over five decades. They've pulled the biggest hoax and will get away!
If you're healthy means you don't have it so how can you spread it.
@@shpservices Yesss someone that isn't a zombie glad to see it 😁
@@jojowildman6377 lmao you're so dumb 😂
@@shpservices ik people who passed away from covid personally stop spreading this false information
She wondered why a store that made her wear a mask to go inside kicked her out because she went inside and took it off. Then, she made an update about how she's sick and will be okay. Well, that's nice. You just breathed all over that store that had other people in it.
THIS. This is what bothers me the most: if the mask isnt for you because you're SoOOoOo healthy, then it's for other people who aren't. Why is that so hard to understand!?
It is about her fellow humans. She does not seem to care about them.
And what about being a carrier! How SELFISH these non-maskers are! To me this shows their character!!!
What about being a carrier? If you believe masks work and you're wearing one, why does it matter if someone else is wearing one or not? If they're healthy and asymptomatic, they're likely not contagious either, so again... What about being a carrier?
@@zachman5150 It’s been proven masks HELP, but don’t protect 100%. It helps not having other peoples spit, snot, and a bonus bad breath being ingested into others noses or mouths. You sound new to this party, where have ya been? I think anti-maskers are helping C19 along. It’s in the air ANYWHERE there is recirculating air, that has been proven! So being a carrier IS a actual fact. People who try to take care of themselves, yes even wearing masks, that get sick and might DIE, is a HUGE problem for their loved ones. I have a family member, who is also a health worker, and she has been VERY careful. But, because of some loser who doesn’t give a shit, probably a Trump supporter, is being a spoiled brat spewing their germs all around, she got sick! So Karen, I mean Zachary, that is what I mean by being a carrier!
@@unfailingcolt8928 Here you are-- Education, Fun & for FREE: I can only post the facts for you... I can't 'understand them' for you too. That is ALL on YOU. Feel free to make your argument with the Medical Specialists who've been listed below.
Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia.
An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask.
"More to the point, indoor airborne virus concentrations have been shown to exist (in day-care facilities, health centres, and onboard airplanes) primarily as aerosol particles of diameters smaller than 2.5 μm, such as in the work of Yang et al. (2011): If his view of the mechanism is correct (ie. "physical loss"), then Shaman's work further necessarily implies that the dryness-driven high transmissibility (large R0) arises from small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in the air; as opposed to larger droplets, which are quickly gravitationally removed from the air. Such small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in air, of biological origin, are of every variety and are everywhere, including down to virion-sizes (Depres, 2012).
As a matter of fact Brooke et al. (2013) showed that, "contrary to prior modeling assumptions, although not all influenza-A-infected cells in the human body produce infectious progeny (virions), nonetheless, 90% of infected cell are significantly impacted, rather than simply surviving unharmed.
All of that to say that: if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application.
Therefore, the studies that show partial stopping power of masks, or that show that masks can capture many large droplets produced by a sneezing or coughing mask-wearer, in light of the above -described features of the problem, are IRRELEVANT."
Baccam et al. (2006), Lowen et al. (2007), Zwart et al. (2009), Shaman et al. (2010), Viboud (2010), Yelzi and Otter (2011), bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the science evidence", Influenza, and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257-267. There were 17 eligible studies. (...) None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask / respirator use and protection against influenza infection." Brooke et al. (2013), Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934-1942, Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) "N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial", JAMA. 2019; 322(9):824-833. doing:10.1001/jama.2019. 11645, Paules and Subbaro (2017), Offeddu, V. et al. (2017)"Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis", CMAJ Mar 2016, Long, Y. et al. (2020) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis, J Evid Based Med. 2020
The W.H.O. has recently also come out against lockdowns and together w/ the medical evidence re: the efficacy of masks and how they DO NOT prevent the transmission, there is NO justification for mask mandates nor locking down the economy.
I hope that clears it up for you.There's a lot of disinformation out there, causing people to panic and there's no need for panic, so
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@@zachman5150 you are a ignorant and brainwashed IDIOT !! The reason why ,and they recently admitted to lying, why they told people not to wear a mask in the beginning ,was to preserve the mask for the Healthcare workers !!!!!thanks to your Trump who was selling our masks to china ,we had a shortage of masks !!!! Don't go to the hospital when you get covid and take the bed away from a more deserving person !!!!
@@ursulakele6670 I posted the peer-reviewed medical studies on the efficacy of masks at preventing the transmission of viruses and they all conclude that they do not, and failing to comprehend that makes YOU 'the idiot' in this conversation.
I can only post the facts for you, I can't 'understand' them FOR you too.-- That's all on you babe and you're failing.
If you don't take comfort from knowing that there's a 99%+ success rate with currently available treatment, then you are emotionally unhinged and remind me that Thomas Sowell is correct in his assessment of those like you when he said, "It's usually futile to talk Facts and Analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance"-- So-- You're Dismissed
"I have an immune system..." Are you suggesting that 146,000+ didn't have one?
You can't argue with a stupid person, ignorance will beat learning every time.
Some people are just born with a weak immune system aka Asians
She obviously knows she is healthy. Those 146,000 had one but perhaps they were weak and high risk.
@@seekingexcellence3236 Not sure if troll or sarcasm...
@Benny Jet So there was never one single healthy person that died? Not one. Nope they've all gotta be 80 years old, or Asian or high risk.
Must be nice to live forever.
@@Itosalix It's all about genetics, who has the best immune system on earth? People with weak immune systems are most likely to get sick from your 5g cell phone tower network. They figured out how to amplify the same flu virus and aim it at people. We have groups here in New York City who are taking down those cell phone towers, and all of a sudden no one is getting sick. People here in NYC are gathering in mass numbers and having a party as a protest. These party people are proving covid 19 is nothing but a hoax!
Her body might be healthy. But the mind is completely off the track.
OK Doctor. What is wrong with you? HEAL THY SELF!!!!!
All these Karen's should be forced to stand in front of the over 500,000 families that have lost a loved one to covid and explain to them how covid is nothing
Covid exists. Me and my wife got Covid and were sick for about a week. We recovered. Masks still don't work though. It's about control.
Are you aware that they still have not isolated covid-19 virus? Lab in Germany waiting to give 1.5 million euro to anyone who will isolate it..
@@conker206 LEAVE U ANTI MASKER AND GET HELP
@@brookebennett8963 No.
@@vtoday2010 u have no idea about whats going on in germany, right now our numbers are lower than they were at the beginning of 2020. Masks work, 2 people in my 35 people class had the corona virus and none of the rest were infected, i know that because we all got tested immediately
those poor employees don’t get paid enough to deal with karens like that on a daily basis 🤦🏼♂️
@Aliscans Then those employees don’t have to. At my job I don’t bother telling anyone to wear a mask if they don’t want to. I look the other way.
So all the doctors and nurses in the hospitals taking care of you everyday wearing masks have been endangering themselves for years? Yet they're still alive working for you!
Surgeons & nurses have been wearing masks forever and for hours at a time. Never heard of any of them getting ill from breathing in their own microorganisms.
Dr. Russell Blaylock well known neurosurgeon wrote this article; "Face Masks Pose Serious Risks to the Healthy." Some people cannot wear a mask for medical disability reasons; I am one such person. Even with a doctor's note, people feel the need to be rude and employees call police.
If masks work than thats great, a person is free to wear one but someone who puts so little faith in their own mask that they feel the need to force me to wear one to my paral is just wrong.
No I think the sheep(maskers) need to stay at home scared and let the rest of us try to get America going again.
Jason Thomas period !
@Jonathon Contreras you brainwashed pro-maskers are really the ones with North Korea worship syndrome .
@Connie G why should Paul stay home ? He's not SICK .
"PUT THE MASK ON OR GO HOME AND GET SOMEONE ELSE TO SHOP FOR YOU".
On a positive note, I’m no longer the dumbest person I know... feeling smarter and smarter when I see trump supporters!!!!
Brilliant you made my day in every wet West Coast of Ireland today
Too funny!! Sad but true!! Keep on being you.
Proud of you darling! Lol 😂
How smart ya feeling now ?
Republicans: I’m a rebel
Also republicans: imma listen to some crack head on 4chan named q
Republicans: we want less government regulations !!!
Republicans 2 hours after GameStop Robbinhood scheme: We demand more government oversight ...
notice I’ll just keep commenting these hypocrisy with the more y’all reply.
She is selfish and ignorant and doesn't care what happens to other people
You are correct sir. And this will be the biggest problem going forward. Ironically she also seems like the same person that wants to legislate morality to the rest of us "to protect our children" but is conspicuously absent on a real threat.
“I don’t want to breathe my own CO2” then I guess doctors must drop like flies during surgery because they’re breathing their own CO2
Exactly. That's why there is a shortage of doctors. 😂
ludwigvanification But the lady in the video isn’t doing aerobics. And as for the surgeon sitting down, please provide a source that says that doing surgery while sitting down is possible. Also, a surgery’s time depends on what is being operated and what problems/complications may arise during surgery so saying that “they remain in surgery for a limited period of time” is a stretch since there is no time limit on the surgery itself. Now, a surgeon does wear a mask because they are in front of an open body and it’s sanitary, but the medical professionals have told us to wear a mask because when we breathe we breathe out bacteria. In a science daily article, it says “A person's mere presence in a room can add 37 million bacteria to the air every hour -- material largely left behind by previous occupants and stirred up from the floor -- according to new research.” And that bacteria is just from your presence, now imagine if you don’t have a mask and your breathing, that bacteria that you have inside of you will eventually come out and infect another person. Please read a book or at least get your head out of your ass. And next time provide sources like I did so you don’t look like an uneducated idiot.
@ludwigvanification I'm sure Karen wasn't planning to do cartwheels in the store. Nor was she likely to be in there longer than a doctor performing surgery. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make.....
Christopher Murillo sadly ... someone convinced of his/her opinion, isn’t openminded enough to a change of mind because of logical arguments. Every time you argue, they come up with counter arguments. That is what conspiracy theorists do. Finding ad hoc solutions to back themselves up.
@ludwigvanification That's not even the argument here. She's going into a store that requires a mask. She needs to get over it. Period. We are not talking about what she does or what other people do outside of this store. Just this store policy and her behavior in this moment.
You may have COVID and your immune system is working very well, but you can spread it and that someone may well have a weakened immune system, maybe from cancer (just one example). These people who only think of themselves are extremely selfish, are not nice people and very ignorant. I don't want to live in a world full of these type people.
Some of us don't have good immune systems. I have TWO autoimmune diseases. One is quite rare. Getting sick could literally be the end of me. Neither of my conditions are contagious but I wear a mask (with asthma and allergies to the fabics) because I have elderly parents AND because I could die if I get sick. I'm soooo happy for her that she's "healthy" but not everyone is soooo lucky or selfish. You're simply selfish if you refuse to wear a mask. Selfish...not right...not wrong...selfish and if you ever said "all lives matter"...you're also a liar and a hypocrite.
AMEN DOC!
This is what self absorbed people do. They don’t think or care about some of us, who are more susceptible to catching things. But there the first ones rushing to the hospital/
Her body isn't immune to stupidity though
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Mark Twain
Mobetter ha ha ha ha ... I like ,”when you stare in the mirror and don’t know who’s staring back “
Wise words to live by.
@tiffany solinski A year or two I guess based on what happened during the killer 1918 Spanish Flu. (It was a lot worse than this pandemic.)
OH... this is why 50% of marriage ends in divorce. Her poor family... they have to LIVE with it.
This "Coronavirus Karen" is like the textbook example of someone with the Dunning-Krueger effect. She truly thinks she knows more than everyone else with minimal research
Karens are the mothers of 90% TYT supporters, watch your mouth.
@@karensheep7141
Well I hope all the Karens die then x
Trump has that also. He told us himself.
@@hb-fc3jj Without Karens then TYT would sink!
@@JuggaloSupreme Then stop calling her Karen. Karen's are strong independent women and mothers to strong independent TYT supporters.
She doesn't understand that Trader Joe's is a private business and not a public right. So much entitlement!
I would just say, "mam, I just work here. This is our policy. If you don't like it, go somewhere else." ...done.
You’re so polite 😊
You think that stops a wild Karen? Lol
"I'm not going to breathe my own CO2. There are many researchers. " LMAO... Hahaha. Good god, if brains were dynamite, Karen wouldn't have enough to blow her nose.
Here you are-- Education, Fun & for FREE: I can only post the facts for you... I can't 'understand them' for you too. That is ALL on YOU. Feel free to make your argument with the Medical Specialists who've been listed below.
Masks have been proven to be ineffective at preventing the transmission of viruses-- evidenced by the numbers peer-reviewed medical studies, but there are also studies showing negative affects of wearing masks, such as causing Bacterial Pneumonia.
An N-95 mask still lets 5% of anything smaller than 3 microns thru all the time. At 10% relative humidity to lets particles up to 8 microns thru. The Wuhan corona virus is 1.25 Nano microns big, that's : 0.00125 microns. That's 2400 times smaller than what an N-95 mask can filter. Yes, you can catch the flu while wearing an N-95 mask.
"More to the point, indoor airborne virus concentrations have been shown to exist (in day-care facilities, health centres, and onboard airplanes) primarily as aerosol particles of diameters smaller than 2.5 μm, such as in the work of Yang et al. (2011): If his view of the mechanism is correct (ie. "physical loss"), then Shaman's work further necessarily implies that the dryness-driven high transmissibility (large R0) arises from small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in the air; as opposed to larger droplets, which are quickly gravitationally removed from the air. Such small aerosol particles fluidly suspended in air, of biological origin, are of every variety and are everywhere, including down to virion-sizes (Depres, 2012).
As a matter of fact Brooke et al. (2013) showed that, "contrary to prior modeling assumptions, although not all influenza-A-infected cells in the human body produce infectious progeny (virions), nonetheless, 90% of infected cell are significantly impacted, rather than simply surviving unharmed.
All of that to say that: if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application.
Therefore, the studies that show partial stopping power of masks, or that show that masks can capture many large droplets produced by a sneezing or coughing mask-wearer, in light of the above -described features of the problem, are IRRELEVANT."
Baccam et al. (2006), Lowen et al. (2007), Zwart et al. (2009), Shaman et al. (2010), Viboud (2010), Yelzi and Otter (2011), bin-Reza et al. (2012) "The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the science evidence", Influenza, and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257-267. There were 17 eligible studies. (...) None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask / respirator use and protection against influenza infection." Brooke et al. (2013), Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934-1942, Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) "N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial", JAMA. 2019; 322(9):824-833. doing:10.1001/jama.2019. 11645, Paules and Subbaro (2017), Offeddu, V. et al. (2017)"Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers Smith, J.D. et al. (2016) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis", CMAJ Mar 2016, Long, Y. et al. (2020) "Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis, J Evid Based Med. 2020
I hope that clears it up for you.There's a lot of disinformation out there, causing people to panic and there's no need for panic, so
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@@zachman5150 You've gone from being nothing more than an arrogant idiot, and a nuisance, to making an average troll seem somehow engaging and credible. Bravo!
If it was true that wearing a mask was dangerous, then surgeons and medical staff would be sick. I’ve been wearing a mask for 10-12 hours a day...5 days a week. I’m fine
Yup
It's like the placebo effect. If you think that wearing a mask is dangerous than you will feel pain when wearing a mask.
Most people are lucky because stupidity does not hurt.
@alien absolushun we are talking about masks. It's a simple question: is wearing a mask dangerous? Yes or No? That's no ideology, it's a simple question which can be answered with science. Science!! And by the way I'm working in healthcare facilities forever. I studied medical engineering. I was planning hospitals. I was working in hospitals. I am doing this my whole life. And like the original poster said: I know from my own experience how it is to wear a mask.
Surgeons wouldn't survive long shifts if those masks were harmful.
Where did she get her medical degree, Trump University?
i just laughing 😅
She graduated suma maga com.
Good one - 😂🤣😂🤣
Joe Verna
😂😂😂
And she was top of the class...
My name is Karen and I wear a mask. Even though I don't want to. I wear it because I don't want to be like those Karen's
"I'm a healthy person". (Later:) "I'm sick, but I'm healthy. I have an immune system". Everyone has an immune system Karen, they're still dying.
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@Ben Siener Because there's so much else to talk about nowadays, COVID-19 is old news. But with all the protests and lack of social distancing, the United States is sure to see a sharp rise in COVID-19 cases and deaths soon enough
Notice the people who say covid is not a big deal are the people who claim the protesters are going to get everyone sick
People like her, are the reason why society is failing.
In 1918 flu pandemic, mask wearers were responsible for making flu worse as bacteria was kil*ing more people than flu itself. www.newscientist.com/article/dn14458-bacteria-were-the-real-killers-in-1918-flu-pandemic#ixzz6cgajgm2o
@@The_unexplained you sound like an idiot. 1918 vs now, realize that times were vastly different during the beginning of the 20th century.
@@staywavyfriends Masks are masks. They never changed.
@@The_unexplained yep, I guess in that case medicine is medicine, and never changed. Food is food, and never changed. Cars never changed, buildings never changed... of course things since 1918 such as masks haven't changed 🤣
@@5p33dy777777 I was explaining that bacteria caused due to masks were responsible for making people sick and also resulted into fatal respiratory problems in 1918. Wearing masks in past and wearing masks in present both are same. Comparing them is foolish.
Breathing her own C02? Doctors and nurses must be dying left and right.
Exactly.
Apparently her immune system can deal with COVID but can’t deal with her own CO2.
🤣🤣🤣
People like her is why America had such high number of cases, whe proprobably that same lady who went to that memorial pool party
Some people don’t have a healthy immune system Karen. So wear that mask.
Lol. And those people need to stay home! You should also stay home until you can carry on normally! I have every right to choose not to wear a mask and I have no obligation to your health. This is a nation ruled by law. Not by health risk moron. People with weak immune systems usually made themselves that way due to their poor choices! Should we close down the beaches because people drown? Should we demand sunblock is enforced everywhere because the sun causes cancer? Should we outlaw foods that cause heart problems and lead to death and weakened immune systems? Or alcohol and cigarettes which also cause this? Nope so we aren’t going to tell normal people to wear masks. If you have a health problem you need to take care of yourself, no one is obligated to do this for you. This type of talk is harassment and anti American. We can’t even prove covid exists by isolating it. We can however prove cancer is caused by alcohol, cigarettes, and poor diet… yet you want to go after an unproven sickness that didn’t kill people because it doesn’t technically exist? Go regulate a fat mans diet, follow him around the store and force him to buy greens and health foods…. Lol 😂 seriously just stay home and mind your own business. Stay out of mine
@@hippiegypsygirl I see you got out of nursery school early. Imbecile.
@@lizzie511958 I see you are mad that I explained what you should do if you are scared. All you can do is insult, no reasoning with ignorance
@@hippiegypsygirl no you said people with health issues should stay home that makes you a selfish bratt. This moron as you called me is happy to wear a mask if it makes others feel safer.
Sure you may be healthy but the person you pass it to may die. But I guess being selfish that doesn't bother you..
Any you can have it and not show symptoms for a few days and are spreading it.
SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS... THE PERSON I PASS IT ALONG TO IS ALSO NOT WEARING A MASK RIGHT? So who is the selfish one?
@@humblehalfacre8464 My you excel at missing the point.
@@humblehalfacre8464 wow. Hit a nerve did it? Answer is everyone who is not wearing a mask is selfish. If both of you are not wearing a mask, then both of you are selfish and deserve whatever you get.
You realize that healthy people don't actually pass on Bad health right?
She also had the option to not be there - she WAS trying to give the guy a hard time by deliberately walking into the store and refusing to wear a mask. And then she wants to give us an update, like we care.
Yup. I don't think she was there to buy anything. She was just there to make a stupid political statement. What a jerk these Trumptards are!! 😡😡