in the same vein, they call social security an "entitlement." Give me my 6% of salary back and I will invest it and grow it much better than this black hole of the federal government is doing.
It’s literally not necessarily criminal. You want the law to be changed. That is fine. But we must recognize that there will never be a system public or private that will provide unlimited, unqualified coverage for all.
Jia Torentino has hit the nail directly on the head. The reason Mangione has become a hero to many people in this country is because they see him as the agent of Karmic Justice. She brilliantly summarizes the entire situation.
Summarizing the situation is not all she did. She defended the immorality that is vigilante justice, and the justifications for why he had to die. It's immoral, and yet everyone is cheering.
@@Google_Censored_Commenter be that as it may, Luigi Mangione has plenty of people like myself, with a very strong moral compass, understanding how and why this happened. That's not an easy thing to do. It's way past time for change, and the 1% are starting to fear the 99%, which is as it should be.
Remember Hillary tried to give us universal healthcare? She was absolutely destroyed by Big Money because of that. And we all bought into Big Money lies. Private insurers got emboldened, and our healthcare really gone downhill from there.
They like to say broken because it implies it will be fixed. It is not broken. It is a manifestation of the same problem that has reared its filthy nasty gargoyle head for a thousand years. It is the misuse and abuses of power. In this case they are using power for profits and determining who gets HealthCare coverage who does not, who lives and who dies. If they can arrogate to themselves the power to do that, how do you say others should determine the same for them. One out of the millions came forward with the moral courage and rectitude to do that. That was Luigi mangione.The rich pigs kill thousands and they are called CEO. He executes one of those killers and they say he is a terrorist. Do you see how grossly lopsided and monomaniacal this is and how strained the perspectives are in determining these matters.
It's not broken. It's working perfectly well, but only for the Elites. Their carnivorous cannibalistic greed seems to think there will always be someone else there to pick up the tab while they keep all the profits. American should declare bankruptcy. The only people we owe money to are the Billionaires. Screw 'em. Just stop paying our slavers. Every country is in debt to itself. Why should we pay? What have we gotten? What will be get? NOTHING. So that's what they should get right back.
She said "the American Appetite for violence" What about Americans appetite for justice? Tens of thousands of Americans die needlessly every year as the result of these healthcare insurance companies. The government collectively twiddle their thumbs, musing "If only we could do sonething!"
By calling it violence she shows a deep disrespect for the public well being. Has she no recollection of the ethical concepts taught to young English children by the Robin Hood stories?
Isn't it amazing how the masses just accept injustice and being used and abused by the corporations. Even the 1 million people killed and aided by Trumps incompetence during Covid is some how forgotten and seemingly forgiven. When will the general population find a line in the sand where enough is enough.
What a breath of fresh air! It's so nice to get some honest reporting. This was brilliantly and comprehensively explained. That's the kind of quality journalism I like to see.
My patient has UHC, and he literally told me that his boss and president of the company was actually complaining and was looking to switch out to another insurance with better coverage after realizing that getting an appointment and approvals was the most time consuming and discouraging process he’s ever experienced. I was so happy to hear it ..
My Medicare Advantage health insurance plan was very recently discontinued by the company I had been with for many years. Because my wife has a UHC Medicare Advantage plan, I thought I'd just get UHC Medicare Advantage plan too. I called and the rep who sold me the plan lied to me about the coverage. I guess they will do anything to make a sale. Now for the next year all my healthcare needs are in jeopardy. At least I know I will never use UHC again after 2025 is up. I was (and am) in a state of shock.
Luigi unified the country. That is the fact. We all are being screwed up by Insurance companies, not only health insurance, but also auto and home insurance.
All insurance should be managed on a non-profit basis by independent trustees, with their treasuries occasionally supplemented by one-off disbursements of funds raised through taxation as needed when there are shortfalls due to major catastrophes. The for-profit model is ridiculous on its face, a teenager could tell you how that was going to work out.
Bernie Sanders has been screaming from the rafters for years about this but the last plea the commentator made was that this is a political moment and “if only some one would take this up”. The problem is that no one has been listening…
The problem is that the political system is rotten to the core, both parties are bought by lobbyists of big money. The Americans are living in a corporatocracy, voting is just meaningless at this point. That's why young, brilliant Ivy League grads with a Master’s degree in Computer Science like Luigi, who had the whole world ahead of them, feel so helpless they see no other solution than to sacrifice their own life.
Most people in the real world don't approve of the murderer. Talk to people face to face, not online. You will get entirely different perspective. Nobody actually supports the murderer except in online rage bait. So much of what you read online is completely fake and written by chat bots. Meanwhile in the real world the first person to recognize him immediately called the police. The Mangione fan club isn't real. A scientific poll was conducted by Emerson showed a majority of adults (68%) think the actions of the killer of the United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, are unacceptable. Seventeen percent find the actions acceptable, while 16% are unsure. Mangione supporters set up a defense fund that raised $150,000 but consider that Daniel Penny had a defense fund that raised over $3 million. Twenty times as much. Daniel Penny has 20 times the supporters of Mangione. Endorsing murder is a fringe lunatic position. His actual support is minuscule. When this goes to court he is going to spend the rest of his life behind bars.
Jia Tolentino is the first "real" journalist that I've heard, who has succinctly brought all the variables together, and explained our status as a country, regarding Healthcare. Im going to be following her.
I hope she takes on the Politicians, Jails and Prisons, Legal and Judiciary System, 1% and Billionaires. She is a force of nature. I wonder how hard they will try to silence her.
She’s an alum of Gawker Media, which was taken out by Peter Thiel (tech billionaire). Gawker was a loud counterculture voice that was critical of the ruling class, and Thiel silenced it through a court case that bankrupted Gawker.
First: These ‘insurance’ companies DO NOT PROVIDE HEALTHCARE! We go to a doctor or a hospital for our care. Second: When these ‘insurance’ companies deny payment for a service THEY KNOWINGLY ATTEMPT TO SAVE MONEY! Third: These ‘insurance’ companies KNOW that some of their denials WILL LEAD TO INJURY AND DEATH. They simply don’t know which denial will do that. Fourth: When these ‘insurance’ companies deny 30% of claims the CEOs absolutely know that deaths are involved - that is PREMEDITATED MURDER. Fifth: A real insurance company is a company which contracts with citizens to provide payment for health care when it receives an appropriate claim FROM A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. A real insurance company collects from everyone who contracts with them and charges them based on an actuarial table of predicted need and takes the predicted profit. An insurance company is NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF DENYING PAYMENT!! Sixth: THESE ARE NOT INSURANCE COMPANIES - THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING INSURANCE. THEY ARE FRAUDULENTLY OPERATING AS ‘INSURANCE COMPANIES’.
It's kind of a sophiscated organized crime racket. Luigi took out a defacto Mafia Don who was brazenly killing a lot people and then going to these investor conferences to brag about the profits.
Exactly! As an Indian who has lived both in India and the US, the "insurance" companies in the US are a complete scam! Even developing countries like India have much better private health insurance, besides having public health insurance for economically weaker sections.
thank you. Helps us to point to the judge how the insurance company is grossly Negligent in its duty of care, breaches its duty, causes further harm, insult to injury, and causes life harming damage to the claimant.
If a woman is abused for years and finally kills her partner in an act of self-defense, no one questions her motives. The American public has been abused by this predatory industry for decades, so the question should not be why Luigi did what he did, but rather why no one did it sooner. The fact that every CEO in America is looking over their shoulder now is as it should be, and we have Luigi to thank for that.
Well then it is up to the millions to make the millionaires impossible to proceed in that manner. If there are not enough people with the moral courage to do that you will have to be a doormat to be stamped on and trapped on along with your children and grandchildren, mother's fathers aunts uncles sisters and brothers. They will continue killing you for prophet and you will just have to lie down and take it. If you think there is any other way except violence to dislodge them from power you better think again. I'm not advocating it but I am saying that these are the lessons of History. That's why you're supposed to nip it in the bud when power monopolizes keep asking for more and more and more power.
That’s somewhat fair. However, it’s not just millionaires who make healthcare impossible. Healthcare is necessarily a business which in any form will necessarily come with limits to coverage. How should those limits be drawn?
True statement. But it needs to begin with diabolical food corporations and lobbyists who push and market unhealthy foodstuffs knowingly. This results in an American society that is overly obese and 'bloating' the health system to the extreme. A healthier society would reduce healthcare needs by more than half the current state.
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If Luigi had written a sternly worded letter, or even a signed petition, to this CEO about his company's shady practices, nothing would have happened. Our representatives in Congress are also do-nothings. This is really their fault because they made it legal for him to do this to us by forming the laws that govern healthcare. How do we get change in this country?
1st, get more progressive open-minded fighters in politics every election we have--including locally! We need to expand SCOTUS. Then, we can get rid of Citizens United. Know this: +85 MLLION Americans refused to even vote in November. Fascists, corruption only exist when citizens remain apathetic and ignorant.
I'm sorry, but one party HAS been trying to do something. As long as people keep sending greater numbers of the other party to congress, the other party can completely block or water down any human oriented legislation. And accuse the first party of never accomplishing anything. And that is what has been happening for DECADES! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this, but too few voters are making any effort to research or apply basic critical thinking skills. Democracy doesn't work when people don't make an effort.
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@@andreah6379 Apathetic & ignorant, huh. I've been hearing this rah-rah jazz you spouted for 40 years. I write my rep. I call, I vote. NOTHING CHANGES. Your rep will not meet with you if you don't own a business that employs at least x amount of employees. If you go down to their offices & protest--the cops come & tell you they will arrest you if you don't leave. Is it worth getting arrested when nothing will change? We protested in the 70s, we got hosed, got dogs put on us, got shoved around, & threatened with arrest. What have YOU done, sweetie? I have walked the walk. I don't just talk the talk. Apathetic & ignorant, my arse.
@@andreah6379 You can depend on the majority to remain apathetic & ignorant. Only 5% of people in each voting district write letters & send messages to their representatives in Congress. They can ignore 5% of their constituents. It needs to be 35% or 50% even, to get the representatives to tell their rich donors--hey look--if I continue to vote your way I can't get re-elected. But most voters such as the MAGAs, don't even know what the President or Congress has done, other than trump built part of the wall--they have no clue what he did. If they did, they wouldn't have voted for him. They'll remain ignorant.
Jia Tolentino. I have ben closely following this story. You are the most eloquent and honest person I've seen speak on this. Thank you. We need people like you.
Jia Tolentino is absolutely brilliant. The New Yorker article nailed it: structural violence, social murder. The lady writer doesn't dumb it down. thank you Ms. Tolentino!
Since we're passing around kudos, I'd like to point out that the term "social murder" was coined by Frederich Engels, who considered a death at the hands of a bureaucrat to be just as wicked a crime as a cold-blooded killing with one's own hands. The virulent anti-communism fostered in the US since the end of WW2 has set this country back by at least a century.
This is the best interview I've seen discussing the Mangione case. Thanks Jia for assenting that the Health Insurance Companies are immoral and evil and that is why there is so much support for Mangione.
Luigi needs to be free as the health insurance system will continue to deny delay and kill their consumers in order to make profit. Those who have died because of the abuse of the healthcare system cannot and must not die in vain
Americans have tried protests and letter writing campaigns and rallies... We have Occupied Wall Street, held campus sit-ins and walks to end police violence... none of it had any real impact. There are limits to "polite society" and a citizenry pushed to the brink, sometimes pushes back...
Hahaha i wouldn't call it lionizing. It's more like a spark of hope in the dark. This was a unifying moment while we're being divided by corporate media, social media, and the rich.
Yeah, I was playing the Ed Sullivan version of "Walk Him Up the Stairs" on repeat, singing along, watching everyone dance. What a funeral! :) It is probably fleeting, alas.
Former health insurance employees have declared that they were required to meet a QUOTA FOR DENIALS. That's the way a business operates. Their job is to make money for their investors. THIS IS WHY HEALTH INSURANCE SHOULD NOT BE FOR PROFIT.
The journalist from New Yorker was fantastic, very articulate and very direct. Great journalism is about conveying stories from grassroots level and do it honestly. She absolutely excelled in her craft.
@@presence5426 include "upper middle class." We need to get rid of health insurance completely. They have a great system in Cuba, England, France and Germany. People have free medical care and doctors are well compensated.
@@Renata-s4f Right. A company like United Health will try to extract money from just about anyone. You could be rich and they'd probably deny your claim regardless.
This kind of journalism will become even more rare starting Jan 2025. We all must demand and SUPPORT great unbiased reporters and the media they work for now and fight to keep it alive. Fascism, corruption grows in darkness & ignorance.
@@a.s.2426 before Reagan, we had capitalism. Now we have murderous, cut-throat blatant capitalism. Some call it vulture capitalism. UHC is particularly adept at the practice.
Capitalism is built upon competition. When anti-trust is suppressed, it produces monopolies, which isn't capitalism. This is corruption, not capitalism.
Luigi sacrificed his life to bring awareness to the greed and corruption of the health care industry. Sad that this was the way it had to be done. He is a modern day John Brown.
Amanpour and Co is the very best news media outlet. Michel Martin is so respectful of Jia Tolentino and lets her explain thoroughly rather than interrupting and talking over them like other news casters on other outlets do. Thank you for such refreshing coverage.
The point is that what these companies do is so heinous that it makes the murder of this man look like nothing in comparison. I think that’s how we got here.
Well, it's probably that Luigi didn't kill his target for money -- whereas the CEO made ALL of his money PURELY off of the death and suffering of people he deemed that he could profit from.
Very important point. We all try not to think about the likes of Brian Thompson, but with every new brain cell that gets involved, his departure looks like even more of a good thing.
Andrew Witty's article was just further proof how out of touch the company is. Work together to improve health insurance transparency? Sir that is literally YOUR JOB. You could change it in a second without any government oversight or votes.
U.S. Media: What could POSSIBLY be the reason for this reaction? *** sweeping the two ton elephant, America's ruthless sick-for-profit healthcare system under the carpet ***
With Luigi, it’s a catch 22. Even if you look him up, he will become a martyr to many people since he gave some power back to all the people who have been screwed over by the healthcare system.
With the terrorism charge they added, he will be subject to the death penalty. Luckily, one of his defense lawyers is Karen Friedman Agnifico (KFA), who was the Deputy AG in NY, so knows all the rules, system, and players. She's on Meidas Touch Network LegalAF. She also went to school with Jack Smith.
Years of peaceful remonstrance have done nothing to change this situation. Unfortunately one act of violence has started this conversation and that is a fact
There will be many more of these conversations and acts of violence and protest. People have had it! Health Insurance Reform, Jail/Prison System Reform, Legal/Judiciary reform, Political/Politician Reform, 1%/Billionaires.
AARP carries so much United Healthcare advertising you'd think that AARP endorses United Healthcare as America's premiere health insurer, and by such endorsement AARP is actually complicit in the healthcare fraud perpetrated by United Healthcare.
AARP hasn't really advocated for the essential needs of seniors since the 90s. They did advocate for prescription pricing competition but it doesn't go into effect until next year. It will likely get overturned due to the new administration.
AARP are always bombarding me with junk mail. When I go on their website, it is basically full of ads and old information. I'll keep my money, thank you.
Listen to Bill Moyers chat w Paul Krugman in 2014 . We are being squashed by an oligarchy that remains largely out of view, a select mob that orders Hochul to call this an act of terrorism. On par w 911 or Boston Mararhon?
Killed more than Bin Laden. Far more. And few of us have any moral qualms about Bin Laden's "extrajudicial police action" that included invading a foreign country.
Sadly this was inevitable and this anger has been breeding for decades, so it doesn’t surprise me. Luigi is a representation of people’s frustrations of the American healthcare system. I don’t condone murder but I understood the anger the pushed Luigi to do what he did. As a result I believe this is just the beginning of more incidents like this until there is real change in not only on healthcare but other issues affecting the quality of life of most Americans of middle and lower classes
"t I understood the anger the pushed Luigi to do what he did"....I don't think you do. Examining this case closely, you'll find his anger had nothing to do with a broken healthcare system. Luigi had chronic back trouble that was preventing him from being "the perfect person" ......a life of entitlement and a brilliant mind had created a young man who couldn't tolerate imperfection within himself, so he became increasingly-frustrated. He never once suffered due to a broken healthcare system, but needed a scapegoat for his intense anger, which happened to be UHC. It could have been anything.....e.g., the young man who shot at DJT....same thing. The important point is that anger gets misdirected, often. Where does our anger belong? Simple.....there's one political party that has consistently fought better healthcare and better health insurance reforms, the GOP. That's the "rightful target".
No one is going to have sympathy for a multimillionaire CEO that runs a company that makes money denying people, sometimes life saving medical treatment, because they need to hit quotas for shareholders and end of year bonuses.
12:20 She's absolutely right! The PR team is just gas-lighting us now about the UHC "mission". Bottom line is Brian Thompson and his ilk could offer a compassionate approach to healthcare that proves customers with the coverage they need AND... be very very wealthy and comfortable. They CHOOSE to be greedy scum.
NOT The Atlantic !!! It is just long form of NYT / NPR Centrist propaganda . Unabashed support for Wall St And US military empire with a fig leaf of support for the “ left “ Side of social issues .
Starting January 2025, this issue--competent, thorough, true journalism will be of the UTMOST importance!! Fascism gains power only in countries where media is captured by the greedy corrupted big business CEOs and the politicians they own. We all need to suppport great reporting! Now.
I work for a therapy facility. As of 9/1/24 UHC Medicare patients and providers were required to obtain authorization from Optum a UHC auth facilitator. Denials have sky rocketed after this. If you missed obtaining this authorization, the insurance will only let you go back a week anything after that is denied. I feel bad for these elderly patients. The system was designed to make things harder for them to get treatment. Optum will also lessen the approved visits, if the therapist request for 8 visits, Optum will cut that in half and cite that is not medically necessary. Someone on their desk who is not treating the patient in person gets to decide that a patient does not need therapy anymore. If the patient only stayed with Medicare and not pick a medicare replacement, this would not be an issue.
The fear of getting sick and having to use the current system, despite carrying an expensive health insurance policy, is palpable. The policy is expensive, the deductible is high, the coverage is often denied, and we have NO IDEA what the total costs will be until AFTER the services are provided. It’s insane. We wouldn’t buy a refrigerator that way.
If Saint Luigi had been arrested just a couple months earlier, Americans could all be writing him in on the presidential ballot. Better than the big-party options for sure.
A hospice chaplain explained this is the american system. kick grandma out of assisted living, and take all her assets in exchange for long-term care 3 yrs max.
The public thinks that man was taking NINE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR DENYING claims he KNEW they should have paid. GLUTTONY off the backs of people’s health is a moral atrocity.
True….hundreds, if not thousands of people are denied of healthcare under CEO’s so they can amass fortune & wealth, live in a very affluent lifestyle at the expense of people losing their life and families suffering the pain and agony of loss. This must loudly resonate and should stop!!!
Jia Tolentino and Michel Martin fantastic conversation. Media needs to spotlight more of this kind of talk instead of -- insulting our intelligence -- with "perp walks"
Hey the drugs cartels delivery theirs service 100% of the time UHC only delivery 70% of the time. They are not the same the drugs cartels are more consumer friendly.
One would have to be profoundly naive to be surprised by normal people's reaction to this guy's assassination. The only thing that it is surprising is that it took this long for something like this to happen.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” Why are the remaining United Healthcare executives getting a free pass? Where were all these "Good Men and Women"? Which of them stood up when seeing the care denials, the resulting deaths and said, "we can't do this, this is immoral". No, they kept cashing those checks. People should be in jail!
If Mr. Mangione had not sacrificed his life for the benefit of everyone who lives subjected to this unbelievably cruel system, we would not be having this crucial conversation in a serious way (finally!). Bernie and a few others have been trying for years and years, but they of course did not do anything this dramatic, so the conversation never got the widespread attention it needed. People who were not personally negatively impacted by the health insurance industry's insatiable greed refused to accept the premise that no civilized society should allow the unjust treatment that we enable and reward in the US. Mainstream media did not have the courage to push back against the monstrous corporations that get obscenely rich via blood money -- by literally causing tens of thousands of deaths per year. But in the end I bet this will amount to zero reform, because a large enough number of those in power never have and never will give a shit about the general public. Most representatives will say whatever they need to in order to get elected, but then do the bidding of the monied interests once they are in power. If we ever want to see meaningful positive change, WE NEED TO GET BIG DONOR MONEY OUT OF OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM AND OUTLAW THE BLATANT CORRUPTION WE HAVE LEGALIZED!!!
Of course “Thou shall not kill” but then… Presidents cannot do anything. Senators can only complain. In the meantime Insurance company like United Health gets richer by the month, American citizens keep writing the premium check, the elderly keep filing bankruptcy, families keep agonizing on how to get medical help for their loved one… Of course I do not agree with Luigi’s act. His action is not condoned by my religious, social, and personal precept. But oh, how I do understand him. His action cannot be mine but his frustration is. Yes I so understand Luigi. Very well truly.
You do not agree with Luigi's act? Then perhaps you are also opposed to the people who took out Osama bin Laden. He killed fewer people than Brian Thompson.
Yes. Personally $25k in debt because of a congenital condition that is not my choice or my fault, and I am understandably angry. Think of all I could have done with that money.
@@MS-1917 Oh, me too. 2016 or 2020. So completely sad how Warren accused Bernie of sexism. They should have joined forces. Sanders/Ventura 2016 would have been wild as well.
So much of the problem with housing costs is decided at the local level where single family zoning dominates, mandates for setbacks and parking minimums make building townhouses and apartments so much more expensive, not to mention people in every town, conservative or liberal, will show up to the city council meeting to block ANY new housing or apartments. See: San Francisco (all of California basically), and basically everywhere else. Minneapolis and Austin TX are two cities where good policies have been enacted that have brought prices down. As to the topic of this video: The US for-profit health system is violent and immoral.
Paying for something year after year and then to be denied when it's needed is criminal.
SHOULD be criminal. Wrong, stupid & immoral, but legal in the U.S.
You can say that about most government services when you need them.
in the same vein, they call social security an "entitlement." Give me my 6% of salary back and I will invest it and grow it much better than this black hole of the federal government is doing.
It’s literally not necessarily criminal. You want the law to be changed. That is fine. But we must recognize that there will never be a system public or private that will provide unlimited, unqualified coverage for all.
What would make it better? Tax funded healthcare in the public sector is a scam
Yes, "the American healthcare system is profoundly immoral".
At this point you can drop the 'healthcare' part and it remains equally true.
"LUIGI ISNT THE MURDERER HERE" should be a new slogan.
So is European one also btw
@@crypticsailor Exactly. Luigi isnt the murderer here 😔
and profoundry murderous
Jia Torentino has hit the nail directly on the head. The reason Mangione has become a hero to many people in this country is because they see him as the agent of Karmic Justice. She brilliantly summarizes the entire situation.
She's very intelligent
Agent of Karmic Justice, yes, that's it!
Summarizing the situation is not all she did. She defended the immorality that is vigilante justice, and the justifications for why he had to die. It's immoral, and yet everyone is cheering.
@@Google_Censored_Commenter be that as it may, Luigi Mangione has plenty of people like myself, with a very strong moral compass, understanding how and why this happened. That's not an easy thing to do. It's way past time for change, and the 1% are starting to fear the 99%, which is as it should be.
she's very well spoken.. articulated a lot of my feelings very eloquently
Luigi has done one thing no politician can do.
He brought American's Together.
The most incredible thing I’ve read is that healthcare CEOs were SURPRISED by how deeply they are despised
Healthcare should not be for profit
Remember Hillary tried to give us universal healthcare? She was absolutely destroyed by Big Money because of that. And we all bought into Big Money lies. Private insurers got emboldened, and our healthcare really gone downhill from there.
Nor should water
Let's create a non-profit healthcare system!
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@@KOKAYI69 We have one: Medicare & Medicaid. It just needs to get expanded.
Nonprofits can be just as greedy. It has been that way for decades. The problem is the bribed regulators don't regulate. Welcome to Obamacare.
"Profoundly immoral.." Well said. Most commentators and journalists love the word "broken." It is indeed profoundly immoral.
If it was human error we wouldn’t be this angry.
They like to say broken because it implies it will be fixed. It is not broken. It is a manifestation of the same problem that has reared its filthy nasty gargoyle head for a thousand years. It is the misuse and abuses of power. In this case they are using power for profits and determining who gets HealthCare coverage who does not, who lives and who dies. If they can arrogate to themselves the power to do that, how do you say others should determine the same for them. One out of the millions came forward with the moral courage and rectitude to do that. That was Luigi mangione.The rich pigs kill thousands and they are called CEO. He executes one of those killers and they say he is a terrorist. Do you see how grossly lopsided and monomaniacal this is and how strained the perspectives are in determining these matters.
Corporate executives are profoundly greedy and power hungry.
And it's not even broken. It's "fixed."
It's not broken. It's working perfectly well, but only for the Elites. Their carnivorous cannibalistic greed seems to think there will always be someone else there to pick up the tab while they keep all the profits. American should declare bankruptcy. The only people we owe money to are the Billionaires. Screw 'em. Just stop paying our slavers. Every country is in debt to itself. Why should we pay? What have we gotten? What will be get? NOTHING. So that's what they should get right back.
She said "the American Appetite for violence"
What about Americans appetite for justice?
Tens of thousands of Americans die needlessly every year as the result of these healthcare insurance companies.
The government collectively twiddle their thumbs, musing "If only we could do sonething!"
By calling it violence she shows a deep disrespect for the public well being. Has she no recollection of the ethical concepts taught to young English children by the Robin Hood stories?
Isn't it amazing how the masses just accept injustice and being used and abused by the corporations. Even the 1 million people killed and aided by Trumps incompetence during Covid is some how forgotten and seemingly forgiven. When will the general population find a line in the sand where enough is enough.
“America’s appetite for justice” 😂😂😂 they have none. Only greed and personal self interest.
Our politicians look like twisting thumbs, but just counting bribes.
Which makes you wonder why they keep buying healthcare insurance. They don't really need it.
What a breath of fresh air! It's so nice to get some honest reporting. This was brilliantly and comprehensively explained. That's the kind of quality journalism I like to see.
My patient has UHC, and he literally told me that his boss and president of the company was actually complaining and was looking to switch out to another insurance with better coverage after realizing that getting an appointment and approvals was the most time consuming and discouraging process he’s ever experienced. I was so happy to hear it ..
Ya, sounds good on paper but be careful, there is far worse out there, like anything called HMO.
My Medicare Advantage health insurance plan was very recently discontinued by the company I had been with for many years. Because my wife has a UHC Medicare Advantage plan, I thought I'd just get UHC Medicare Advantage plan too. I called and the rep who sold me the plan lied to me about the coverage.
I guess they will do anything to make a sale. Now for the next year all my healthcare needs are in jeopardy. At least I know I will never use UHC again after 2025 is up. I was (and am) in a state of shock.
Luigi unified the country. That is the fact. We all are being screwed up by Insurance companies, not only health insurance, but also auto and home insurance.
Allstate is one of the worst
Luigi unifies us and that terrifies the bourgeois media. Class consciousness will free us from the tyranny of the rich.
WAR is coming. The rich better be scared
All insurance should be managed on a non-profit basis by independent trustees, with their treasuries occasionally supplemented by one-off disbursements of funds raised through taxation as needed when there are shortfalls due to major catastrophes. The for-profit model is ridiculous on its face, a teenager could tell you how that was going to work out.
They can't cope with how popular he is , without comments section the publics voice would go inheard
Bernie Sanders has been screaming from the rafters for years about this but the last plea the commentator made was that this is a political moment and “if only some one would take this up”. The problem is that no one has been listening…
The republicans shout "socialism!" every time universal health care is brought up. It works.
The Dem establishment hacks were listening.. and promptly suppressed him.
The problem is that the political system is rotten to the core, both parties are bought by lobbyists of big money. The Americans are living in a corporatocracy, voting is just meaningless at this point. That's why young, brilliant Ivy League grads with a Master’s degree in Computer Science like Luigi, who had the whole world ahead of them, feel so helpless they see no other solution than to sacrifice their own life.
Like or not (I’ve seen 0 “nots” on here) Luigi achieved in one action what Sanders hasn’t been able to talking for years.
People listened. Those with power just listened to the donors & lobbyists more.
I don't see division, I see full support to Mangione.
A few rich people find it outrageous that the hoi polloi don't like billionaire scammers. Thus, "controversy".
Same same!!
Yes!
Most people in the real world don't approve of the murderer. Talk to people face to face, not online. You will get entirely different perspective.
Nobody actually supports the murderer except in online rage bait. So much of what you read online is completely fake and written by chat bots.
Meanwhile in the real world the first person to recognize him immediately called the police. The Mangione fan club isn't real. A scientific poll was conducted by Emerson showed a majority of adults (68%) think the actions of the killer of the United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, are unacceptable. Seventeen percent find the actions acceptable, while 16% are unsure. Mangione supporters set up a defense fund that raised $150,000 but consider that Daniel Penny had a defense fund that raised over $3 million. Twenty times as much. Daniel Penny has 20 times the supporters of Mangione. Endorsing murder is a fringe lunatic position. His actual support is minuscule. When this goes to court he is going to spend the rest of his life behind bars.
Even my ~80 year old parents get it.
Jia Tolentino is the first "real" journalist that I've heard, who has succinctly brought all the variables together, and explained our status as a country, regarding Healthcare. Im going to be following her.
I hope she takes on the Politicians, Jails and Prisons, Legal and Judiciary System, 1% and Billionaires. She is a force of nature. I wonder how hard they will try to silence her.
She’s an alum of Gawker Media, which was taken out by Peter Thiel (tech billionaire). Gawker was a loud counterculture voice that was critical of the ruling class, and Thiel silenced it through a court case that bankrupted Gawker.
where is she working. i'm a fan.
very eloquent and articulates what the people are feeling rn
There are lots of real journalists, you want find them on mainstream media too often, though.
Her book Trick Mirror was very interesting, highly recommend!
THANK YOU, LUIGI! I NEVER HAD ANY IDEA THIS CRIME WAS GOING ON UNTIL YOU MADE US ALL AWARE.
First: These ‘insurance’ companies DO NOT PROVIDE HEALTHCARE! We go to a doctor or a hospital for our care. Second: When these ‘insurance’ companies deny payment for a service THEY KNOWINGLY ATTEMPT TO SAVE MONEY! Third: These ‘insurance’ companies KNOW that some of their denials WILL LEAD TO INJURY AND DEATH. They simply don’t know which denial will do that. Fourth: When these ‘insurance’ companies deny 30% of claims the CEOs absolutely know that deaths are involved - that is PREMEDITATED MURDER. Fifth: A real insurance company is a company which contracts with citizens to provide payment for health care when it receives an appropriate claim FROM A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. A real insurance company collects from everyone who contracts with them and charges them based on an actuarial table of predicted need and takes the predicted profit. An insurance company is NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF DENYING PAYMENT!! Sixth: THESE ARE NOT INSURANCE COMPANIES - THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING INSURANCE. THEY ARE FRAUDULENTLY OPERATING AS ‘INSURANCE COMPANIES’.
United Health Care is a health care denial company.
It's kind of a sophiscated organized crime racket. Luigi took out a defacto Mafia Don who was brazenly killing a lot people and then going to these investor conferences to brag about the profits.
Louder!! For the people in the back!
Exactly! As an Indian who has lived both in India and the US, the "insurance" companies in the US are a complete scam! Even developing countries like India have much better private health insurance, besides having public health insurance for economically weaker sections.
thank you. Helps us to point to the judge how the insurance company is grossly Negligent in its duty of care, breaches its duty, causes further harm, insult to injury, and causes life harming damage to the claimant.
If a woman is abused for years and finally kills her partner in an act of self-defense, no one questions her motives. The American public has been abused by this predatory industry for decades, so the question should not be why Luigi did what he did, but rather why no one did it sooner. The fact that every CEO in America is looking over their shoulder now is as it should be, and we have Luigi to thank for that.
Some sort of do, actually. "Why didn't you just leave/go to the police/_____".
I think a lot of people would question their motive. They would certainly go to court. Was that really the best option?
Interesting analogy. 🤔
"PREDATORY..... Perfect description of our healthcare system.
CEO’s walking scared in public! I love it! 😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This has been on a slow boil for years . Regular Folks are sick of millionaires making healthcare impossible.
Well then it is up to the millions to make the millionaires impossible to proceed in that manner. If there are not enough people with the moral courage to do that you will have to be a doormat to be stamped on and trapped on along with your children and grandchildren, mother's fathers aunts uncles sisters and brothers. They will continue killing you for prophet and you will just have to lie down and take it. If you think there is any other way except violence to dislodge them from power you better think again. I'm not advocating it but I am saying that these are the lessons of History. That's why you're supposed to nip it in the bud when power monopolizes keep asking for more and more and more power.
That’s somewhat fair. However, it’s not just millionaires who make healthcare impossible. Healthcare is necessarily a business which in any form will necessarily come with limits to coverage. How should those limits be drawn?
@@a.s.2426What system do you want? Who has a better one and how do you know so?
I just want healthcare
True statement. But it needs to begin with diabolical food corporations and lobbyists who push and market unhealthy foodstuffs knowingly. This results in an American society that is overly obese and 'bloating' the health system to the extreme. A healthier society would reduce healthcare needs by more than half the current state.
If Luigi had written a sternly worded letter, or even a signed petition, to this CEO about his company's shady practices, nothing would have happened. Our representatives in Congress are also do-nothings. This is really their fault because they made it legal for him to do this to us by forming the laws that govern healthcare. How do we get change in this country?
1st, get more progressive open-minded fighters in politics every election we have--including locally!
We need to expand SCOTUS.
Then, we can get rid of Citizens United.
Know this: +85 MLLION Americans refused to even vote in November.
Fascists, corruption only exist when citizens remain apathetic and ignorant.
I'm sorry, but one party HAS been trying to do something. As long as people keep sending greater numbers of the other party to congress, the other party can completely block or water down any human oriented legislation. And accuse the first party of never accomplishing anything. And that is what has been happening for DECADES! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this, but too few voters are making any effort to research or apply basic critical thinking skills. Democracy doesn't work when people don't make an effort.
@@andreah6379 Apathetic & ignorant, huh. I've been hearing this rah-rah jazz you spouted for 40 years. I write my rep. I call, I vote. NOTHING CHANGES. Your rep will not meet with you if you don't own a business that employs at least x amount of employees. If you go down to their offices & protest--the cops come & tell you they will arrest you if you don't leave. Is it worth getting arrested when nothing will change? We protested in the 70s, we got hosed, got dogs put on us, got shoved around, & threatened with arrest. What have YOU done, sweetie? I have walked the walk. I don't just talk the talk. Apathetic & ignorant, my arse.
restrict lobbyists
@@andreah6379 You can depend on the majority to remain apathetic & ignorant. Only 5% of people in each voting district write letters & send messages to their representatives in Congress. They can ignore 5% of their constituents. It needs to be 35% or 50% even, to get the representatives to tell their rich donors--hey look--if I continue to vote your way I can't get re-elected. But most voters such as the MAGAs, don't even know what the President or Congress has done, other than trump built part of the wall--they have no clue what he did. If they did, they wouldn't have voted for him. They'll remain ignorant.
Jia Tolentino. I have ben closely following this story. You are the most eloquent and honest person I've seen speak on this. Thank you. We need people like you.
Jia Tolentino is absolutely brilliant. The New Yorker article nailed it: structural violence, social murder. The lady writer doesn't dumb it down. thank you Ms. Tolentino!
@@vivlive5239 I totally agree.
Shes just another self hating asian whose parents made money by exploiting her fellow filipinos
+1
Excellent! Really hoping to hear more from her.
Since we're passing around kudos, I'd like to point out that the term "social murder" was coined by Frederich Engels, who considered a death at the hands of a bureaucrat to be just as wicked a crime as a cold-blooded killing with one's own hands. The virulent anti-communism fostered in the US since the end of WW2 has set this country back by at least a century.
This is the best interview I've seen discussing the Mangione case. Thanks Jia for assenting that the Health Insurance Companies are immoral and evil and that is why there is so much support for Mangione.
Luigi needs to be free as the health insurance system will continue to deny delay and kill their consumers in order to make profit. Those who have died because of the abuse of the healthcare system cannot and must not die in vain
pleasantly surprised at my first exposure to this speaker.
articulates what a lot are feeling and she seems to have a good moral core
Americans have tried protests and letter writing campaigns and rallies...
We have Occupied Wall Street, held campus sit-ins and walks to end police violence... none of it had any real impact.
There are limits to "polite society" and a citizenry pushed to the brink, sometimes pushes back...
Preach, preach!
My view precisely. There are limits to playing by the rules. This is the dynamic that foments revolution.
That is exactly what Elizabeth Warren said, before retracting her comment.
Universal health care has literally been talked about since FDR in the 1930's!!! Medicare For All was part of Ted Kennedy's campaign in 1980!
well put
THANK YOU for this piece. The critically fraying patience of the PEOPLE with BRUTAL corporate abuse MUST be recognized and addressed!!
This is truly one of the best interviews I’ve seen in a long time. This writer broke down the situation, such a clear and factual way excellent.
Hahaha i wouldn't call it lionizing. It's more like a spark of hope in the dark. This was a unifying moment while we're being divided by corporate media, social media, and the rich.
Yeah, I was playing the Ed Sullivan version of "Walk Him Up the Stairs" on repeat, singing along, watching everyone dance. What a funeral! :) It is probably fleeting, alas.
Its easy to see the doublespeak on display in this story.
he made a sacrifice, that's honorable, he deserves the support. He IS in fact, a hero. His deeds speak to his character
Bravo Jia Tolentino and Amanpour and Michel Martin for this conversation- social murder/structural violence embodied in our corporate health industry.
Former health insurance employees have declared that they were required to meet a QUOTA FOR DENIALS. That's the way a business operates. Their job is to make money for their investors. THIS IS WHY HEALTH INSURANCE SHOULD NOT BE FOR PROFIT.
The journalist from New Yorker was fantastic, very articulate and very direct. Great journalism is about conveying stories from grassroots level and do it honestly. She absolutely excelled in her craft.
Such a wonderful interview. This guest explained our situation clearly and I appreciate her.
Thank you so much Amanpour for inviting a great guest(Jia Tolentino) & speak for us!
Finally an interview that talks about why!
If you want to know anything, it is always MONDY.
MONEY, MONEY, MONEY
It is a sophisticated systematic fleecing of poor people.
And not only poor, but middle class too.
this is how the world works bud
Spoken like a true Luddite.
@@presence5426 include "upper middle class." We need to get rid of health insurance completely. They have a great system in Cuba, England, France and Germany. People have free medical care and doctors are well compensated.
@@Renata-s4f Right. A company like United Health will try to extract money from just about anyone. You could be rich and they'd probably deny your claim regardless.
Yes. Thank you as well for being our voice.
Thank you for presenting this unbiased and responsible journalism!
This kind of journalism will become even more rare starting Jan 2025.
We all must demand and SUPPORT great unbiased reporters and the media they work for now and fight to keep it alive.
Fascism, corruption grows in darkness & ignorance.
Amanpour show is a head above the rest. Thoughtful interviewer and excellent guests.
I love to listen to Michelle Martin because she always brings in great intelligent individuals to speak about important topics.
I completely agree, the show has excellent interviews.
Eh, she shilled for IZ for months as it bombed children
Brilliant young woman, this writer. Whatever she says resonates with my deep and abiding outrage over blatant capitalism.
Yes, it helps that she's Canadian born to Filipino parents -- sometimes you need an outside-looking-in perspective.
What is “blatant capitalism”? That doesn’t make sense.
@@denniszenanywhereher parents must be proud of her😊
@@a.s.2426 before Reagan, we had capitalism. Now we have murderous, cut-throat blatant capitalism. Some call it vulture capitalism. UHC is particularly adept at the practice.
Capitalism is built upon competition. When anti-trust is suppressed, it produces monopolies, which isn't capitalism. This is corruption, not capitalism.
Luigi sacrificed his life to bring awareness to the greed and corruption of the health care industry. Sad that this was the way it had to be done. He is a modern day John Brown.
I think you are right. He sacrificed his life for a moral cause. Attention should be paid.
He did this for his ego. He had the means to help people in need and didn't do anything.
@@JujuTricks absurd and false - he had the means to pay everyone's medical bills? nope
Fuah!
Very troubled by these developments. When you're only you have troubled mind.
Amanpour and Co is the very best news media outlet. Michel Martin is so respectful of Jia Tolentino and lets her explain thoroughly rather than interrupting and talking over them like other news casters on other outlets do. Thank you for such refreshing coverage.
The point is that what these companies do is so heinous that it makes the murder of this man look like nothing in comparison. I think that’s how we got here.
Well, it's probably that Luigi didn't kill his target for money -- whereas the CEO made ALL of his money PURELY off of the death and suffering of people he deemed that he could profit from.
Very important point. We all try not to think about the likes of Brian Thompson, but with every new brain cell that gets involved, his departure looks like even more of a good thing.
Andrew Witty's article was just further proof how out of touch the company is. Work together to improve health insurance transparency? Sir that is literally YOUR JOB. You could change it in a second without any government oversight or votes.
When I saw that article, my first reaction was it’s like putting lipstick on a pig.
Yes. Andrew Witty was doing his best to imply that we’re all complicit in his company’s decisions.
Thanks for having this lady in this interview!❤❤❤❤❤
she's a star
U.S. Media: What could POSSIBLY be the reason for this reaction?
*** sweeping the two ton elephant, America's ruthless sick-for-profit healthcare system under the carpet ***
Beautiful interview. "Social murder" stands out. So much to consider here. Will read New Yorker article. Jia Tolentino. Thank you!
Health insurance is based on greed and not humanity. Greed is a form of hate like a murder is.
With Luigi, it’s a catch 22. Even if you look him up, he will become a martyr to many people since he gave some power back to all the people who have been screwed over by the healthcare system.
The people who see themselves as “screwed over by the system” also vote Republican. So I don’t feel any sympathy for them.
With the terrorism charge they added, he will be subject to the death penalty. Luckily, one of his defense lawyers is Karen Friedman Agnifico (KFA), who was the Deputy AG in NY, so knows all the rules, system, and players. She's on Meidas Touch Network LegalAF. She also went to school with Jack Smith.
Years of peaceful remonstrance have done nothing to change this situation. Unfortunately one act of violence has started this conversation and that is a fact
U.S. democracy filtered by Lobbist.
There will be many more of these conversations and acts of violence and protest. People have had it! Health Insurance Reform, Jail/Prison System Reform, Legal/Judiciary reform, Political/Politician Reform, 1%/Billionaires.
Preach Jia Torentino! You clearly articulate the injustice of our system.
Protesting against genocide in GAZA got us scolded and changed NOTHING!
AARP carries so much United Healthcare advertising you'd think that AARP endorses United Healthcare as America's premiere health insurer, and by such endorsement AARP is actually complicit in the healthcare fraud perpetrated by United Healthcare.
AARP hasn't really advocated for the essential needs of seniors since the 90s. They did advocate for prescription pricing competition but it doesn't go into effect until next year. It will likely get overturned due to the new administration.
AARP are always bombarding me with junk mail. When I go on their website, it is basically full of ads and old information. I'll keep my money, thank you.
This 73 year old Agrees.
AARP UHC is one of the top 3 that I process for MedAdvantage dental claims in my office.
Yep one corporation supports another!
mark the fact - Rich are becoming richer and poor stay poor & helpless, & no moral accountability
Listen to Bill Moyers chat w Paul Krugman in 2014 . We are being squashed by an oligarchy that remains largely out of view, a select mob that orders Hochul to call this an act of terrorism. On par w 911 or Boston Mararhon?
Our health care system is violent = 💯. We have to rise up and get our government to fix it. 1/3 of coverage declined is unreal and concerning.
It's not left versus right. It's a fight against corporate greed.
Best coverage on the topic I've seen yet! Your guest said everything perfectly!
How many people have United Healthcare killed/murdered, deliberatly? How many Brian Thompson?
Killed more than Bin Laden. Far more. And few of us have any moral qualms about Bin Laden's "extrajudicial police action" that included invading a foreign country.
Their decisions to deny health care coverage for the sake of their own financial profit are quite deliberate.
Sadly this was inevitable and this anger has been breeding for decades, so it doesn’t surprise me. Luigi is a representation of people’s frustrations of the American healthcare system. I don’t condone murder but I understood the anger the pushed Luigi to do what he did. As a result I believe this is just the beginning of more incidents like this until there is real change in not only on healthcare but other issues affecting the quality of life of most Americans of middle and lower classes
I really feel sorry for all average American citizens. Your people are going through unnecessary pain and suffering.
"t I understood the anger the pushed Luigi to do what he did"....I don't think you do. Examining this case closely, you'll find his anger had nothing to do with a broken healthcare system. Luigi had chronic back trouble that was preventing him from being "the perfect person" ......a life of entitlement and a brilliant mind had created a young man who couldn't tolerate imperfection within himself, so he became increasingly-frustrated. He never once suffered due to a broken healthcare system, but needed a scapegoat for his intense anger, which happened to be UHC. It could have been anything.....e.g., the young man who shot at DJT....same thing. The important point is that anger gets misdirected, often. Where does our anger belong? Simple.....there's one political party that has consistently fought better healthcare and better health insurance reforms, the GOP. That's the "rightful target".
The media and politicians have been proudly glorifying chaos, greed and violence for years and they pretend to wonder why this happened????
@@jlvandat69
Hearsay... inadmissible.
"Weather Underground" is resonating in my head. I wonder why?
Jia is soooooo spot on, yes!
No one is going to have sympathy for a multimillionaire CEO that runs a company that makes money denying people, sometimes life saving medical treatment, because they need to hit quotas for shareholders and end of year bonuses.
12:20 She's absolutely right! The PR team is just gas-lighting us now about the UHC "mission". Bottom line is Brian Thompson and his ilk could offer a compassionate approach to healthcare that proves customers with the coverage they need AND... be very very wealthy and comfortable. They CHOOSE to be greedy scum.
Free Luigi Mangione
I for one volunteer for the jury duty. And I promise to be completely gullible and say whatever the judge tells me to. Fingers crossed.
The New Yorker & The Atlantic. Thank god for written journalism .
NOT The Atlantic !!!
It is just long form of NYT / NPR
Centrist propaganda .
Unabashed support for Wall St
And US military empire with a fig leaf of support for the “ left “
Side of social issues .
Starting January 2025, this issue--competent, thorough, true journalism will be of the UTMOST importance!!
Fascism gains power only in countries where media is captured by the greedy corrupted big business CEOs and the politicians they own.
We all need to suppport great reporting! Now.
Thanks for having Jia Tolentino here. This channel shows intelligence and empathy.
Eat the rich.
I work for a therapy facility. As of 9/1/24 UHC Medicare patients and providers were required to obtain authorization from Optum a UHC auth facilitator. Denials have sky rocketed after this. If you missed obtaining this authorization, the insurance will only let you go back a week anything after that is denied. I feel bad for these elderly patients. The system was designed to make things harder for them to get treatment. Optum will also lessen the approved visits, if the therapist request for 8 visits, Optum will cut that in half and cite that is not medically necessary. Someone on their desk who is not treating the patient in person gets to decide that a patient does not need therapy anymore. If the patient only stayed with Medicare and not pick a medicare replacement, this would not be an issue.
And yet, Dr Oz wants to privatize all Medicare. So, the elderly will prob just die off earlier
Outstanding. Let's talk about social murder. Thank you!
The fear of getting sick and having to use the current system, despite carrying an expensive health insurance policy, is palpable. The policy is expensive, the deductible is high, the coverage is often denied, and we have NO IDEA what the total costs will be until AFTER the services are provided. It’s insane. We wouldn’t buy a refrigerator that way.
Well said and tragically accurate.
And hospitals send you to collections in a snap, especially the ones like mine that have the same name as my insurance company.
Spectacular coverage. Thank you for doing better than the mainstream media outlets. 👏🏼
best interview on this case so far
profoundly immoral. finally we can talk openly about it
Deny, Defend, Distract
I really appreciate how you let the guest speak! This is another sad story actual interview! Excellent work. Thank you.
For all those innocent people who died in brian Thompson care now can rest in peace justice has been served.
💯💯💯
That's right! Can't spend $10 mil from a pine box!!!
We who are oppressed love those who fight against oppression and the oppressors.
Luigi is a modern day hero.
If Saint Luigi had been arrested just a couple months earlier, Americans could all be writing him in on the presidential ballot. Better than the big-party options for sure.
Flawed as everyone is
✝️
You mean Saint Luigi.
Respectable people don’t have to say what Luigi did is wrong. In fact the truly respectable position is supporting Luigi. We all know it.
A hospice chaplain explained this is the american system. kick grandma out of assisted living, and take all her assets in exchange for long-term care 3 yrs max.
Profoundly immoral indeed
American people are suffocating and suffering.
Thank you to you all for covering this painful topic so sensitively
He is definitely not a terrorist.
The public thinks that man was taking NINE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR DENYING claims he KNEW they should have paid. GLUTTONY off the backs of people’s health is a moral atrocity.
Fantastic interview. Well done ladies!
Luigi Mangione? You mean the real american hero?
The REAL One!!!!!!!!☝️
Luigi Mangione is a real hero
True….hundreds, if not thousands of people are denied of healthcare under CEO’s so they can amass fortune & wealth, live in a very affluent lifestyle at the expense of people losing their life and families suffering the pain and agony of loss. This must loudly resonate and should stop!!!
Jia Tolentino and Michel Martin fantastic conversation. Media needs to spotlight more of this kind of talk instead of -- insulting our intelligence -- with "perp walks"
The riches laughs, the poors suffers. This sick society
The only difference between health insurance companies and drug cartels is the rubber stamp of the system. Both profit from suffering and death.
Hey the drugs cartels delivery theirs service 100% of the time UHC only delivery 70% of the time.
They are not the same the drugs cartels are more consumer friendly.
One would have to be profoundly naive to be surprised by normal people's reaction to this guy's assassination. The only thing that it is surprising is that it took this long for something like this to happen.
But I was surprised that the overwhelming majority of people reacted like us.
This is the best interview I've seen in a long time. Great questions asked and really makes you think
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” Why are the remaining United Healthcare executives getting a free pass? Where were all these "Good Men and Women"? Which of them stood up when seeing the care denials, the resulting deaths and said, "we can't do this, this is immoral". No, they kept cashing those checks. People should be in jail!
If Mr. Mangione had not sacrificed his life for the benefit of everyone who lives subjected to this unbelievably cruel system, we would not be having this crucial conversation in a serious way (finally!). Bernie and a few others have been trying for years and years, but they of course did not do anything this dramatic, so the conversation never got the widespread attention it needed. People who were not personally negatively impacted by the health insurance industry's insatiable greed refused to accept the premise that no civilized society should allow the unjust treatment that we enable and reward in the US. Mainstream media did not have the courage to push back against the monstrous corporations that get obscenely rich via blood money -- by literally causing tens of thousands of deaths per year.
But in the end I bet this will amount to zero reform, because a large enough number of those in power never have and never will give a shit about the general public. Most representatives will say whatever they need to in order to get elected, but then do the bidding of the monied interests once they are in power. If we ever want to see meaningful positive change, WE NEED TO GET BIG DONOR MONEY OUT OF OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM AND OUTLAW THE BLATANT CORRUPTION WE HAVE LEGALIZED!!!
Awesome interview many ways of unliving people. Greed and lack of empathy would destroy a country.
Of course “Thou shall not kill” but then…
Presidents cannot do anything. Senators can only complain. In the meantime Insurance company like United Health gets richer by the month, American citizens keep writing the premium check, the elderly keep filing bankruptcy, families keep agonizing on how to get medical help for their loved one…
Of course I do not agree with Luigi’s act. His action is not condoned by my religious, social, and personal precept. But oh, how I do understand him. His action cannot be mine but his frustration is. Yes I so understand Luigi. Very well truly.
You do not agree with Luigi's act? Then perhaps you are also opposed to the people who took out Osama bin Laden. He killed fewer people than Brian Thompson.
All the politicians uphold this blood sucking for-profit system death-sentencing people who pay them money for healthcare.
You’re is good company.
You’re in good company.
Jia communicated her ideas fantastically! Very direct, I love it.
The fact that you have t ask says it all.
LOVE THIS VIEW! It’s 100% factual. FINALLY!
We are not celebrating the murder! We feel hopeful that now congress will address the insurances’ corruption.
No they will not. Trump didn’t even mention health care when addressing this situation.
@ I am afraid neither president care
Celebrate justice.
Congress will never act to stop corruption, because politicians THRIVE on corruption.
@@marioguelbenzu2348 well, Biden did just pass the insulin capped at $30, and a yearly prescription cap for seniors at about $2000.
The money that goes to shareholders is funneled away from what could be healthcare
Yes. Personally $25k in debt because of a congenital condition that is not my choice or my fault, and I am understandably angry. Think of all I could have done with that money.
I want to know why the United States has allowed this to go on for so long?!!! DISGUSTING AND REPREHENSIBLE.
Luigi did a mighty thing. A thing the American people LOVE. It's simple. Nothing complex about it.
What about housing costs? This country needs a real reset.
Voters had the chance to nominate Bernie Sanders... TWICE! They chose Clinton & Biden.
@@presence5426 I wanted a Sanders and Warren ticket.
@@MS-1917 Oh, me too. 2016 or 2020. So completely sad how Warren accused Bernie of sexism. They should have joined forces. Sanders/Ventura 2016 would have been wild as well.
@@presence5426 Biden was the worst pic. Clinton was likewise awful.
So much of the problem with housing costs is decided at the local level where single family zoning dominates, mandates for setbacks and parking minimums make building townhouses and apartments so much more expensive, not to mention people in every town, conservative or liberal, will show up to the city council meeting to block ANY new housing or apartments.
See: San Francisco (all of California basically), and basically everywhere else. Minneapolis and Austin TX are two cities where good policies have been enacted that have brought prices down.
As to the topic of this video: The US for-profit health system is violent and immoral.