28:43 Talk to the people you so loathe. RFK, Tulsi, Joe Rogan, Elon, JD Vance, Kasparian, even Trump - invite them on. Tell them why they're so bad, then let them respond. Have good-faith conversations and if you can make a solid case why they're bad for America (outside of the usual overzealous slurs), you will win a more diverse audience and voters.
People don’t agree to adversarial interviews. Lex Fridman has interviewed Elon Musk like 35 times and every time, Lex says, “I’ll never back away from asking the tough questions”, and yet somehow, it’s a three hour Elon hugbox.
Scott and Jessica are limousine liberals. Jessica married a rich man, Scott is rich and his wife is a CEO. They literally CANNOT relate to anyone in america.
From my perspective as a German, having worked in the US for a long time: This guy Scott Galloway is just describing himself exactly as the problem: "I'm highly educated and just speak for highly educated people." Guy, go out and speak with the craftsmen, with the server and so on. These are the folks keeping a country alive. I'm in a management position in one of the biggest German tech companies and also have a high education degree. But I feel as part of the working people. I'm chairman of a fishing club with more than 300 people, most being from the less educated parts of the society. But these folks are the first helping and supporting when something needs to be done. And they struggle with paying their bills and each year I align with a lot of them how to stretch the payments for the club so that they can continue to go fishing. These people currently suffer and these people are the mass and they finally decide an election. Wake up, dude!
So much this. Those whose prescribe themselves as highly educated ignore the needs of those that are the backbone of society yet lecture them how to think/vote.
Jon Favreau is a knowledgeable guest who has been involved with politics for many years.. I appreciate the conversation and getting to the fact of millions of Americans who just want to have food and shelter security.
Jon Favreau is a speechwriter. He can masquerade as a political operator all he wants, but he wrote pretty words that were well suited to Obama's oratorical style. He's not a serious political thinker. He's not someone who has ever made tough decisions at the top of a campaign. He's a pretty face who built a media company so he could go to work in t-shirts.
The problem with dems thinking podcasts will save them is that the "sea of red" as Scott called it is largely not political in nature. These are platforms that mostly talk about a variety of topics other than politics that appeal to young men (combat sports, comedy, working out, self-improvement, etc). Rogan, Theo Von, Lex Fridman, Logan Paul, Nelk Boys are all podcasts Trump and/or Vance went on that are not political shows. Creating a competitor to pod save america does nothing.
Yes. It needs to feel like common sense points. That’s what Elon and Trump and JD Vance did so well on these podcasts. They seemed like the obvious common sense people that are trying to make America as good as it can be. Not saying I agree or disagree. But it came off that way very well.
@ well yes you’re correct they weren’t being asked tough questions by journalists. But that’s basically my point. This is the new world. If you’re seen as down to earth and a common sense person on a popular laid back conversation, that comes off well. Very well. I get that you want hard hitting journalistic questions, but that’s wishing for something else from what I’m discussing. The republicans are winning that battle convincingly right now. And Democrats need to come off a lot better if they want to stand a chance. But they lost a key battle and now Elon and Rogan and company control a lot of the narratives.
They are not overtly political, but they are undoubtedly right leaning, a Democrat simply going on to those shows would not be well received as well as Trump and Vance are. Whatever the reason maybe they are all right leaning, Trump supporting, Democrat hating 'nonpolitical' ecosystems.
@@validatedclassified2564 You have it backwards. Democrats hate men and label masculinity as "toxic", so naturally these podcasts are right leaning. My point is that Dems have demonized men and the things they like, so they won't be able to just create their own version of the manosphere podcasts. The closest thing they have is Hasan Piker who is problematic for other reasons.
They can’t. They dug themselves into this hole and it is very difficult to get out of. In fact , this guy’s pod did a whole segment on the congress trans bathroom thing, when they should have not even mentioned it. They couldn’t resist
Tell that Jessica, she calls herself highly educated. Most blatantly toxic echo chamber she lives in and doesn't learn anything from it. She constantly talks about identity politics, saying she disagrees with Republicans. Yet that's why they lost the election; people are done with identity politics.
Still saying messaging? Working class feel poor because they are poor, struggling with increased cost of living. And improved messaging that's condescending won't get people back voting democrat
There's absolutely a huge messaging problem. Democrats don't communicate. Harris can and does give hour long economic policy speeches or more, without ever uttering the word "rural". Social media is full of Trump voters suddenly realizing for the first time the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing, and worried about losing their health insurance now. Biden did a bunch of stuff differently from Trump, EU governments and east Asia and did it well, and our inflation abated sooner and earlier than elsewhere as a result and our economy and wages recovered faster, and nobody knows. But there's also an administering problem. Biden brushed off civil service requests at the Dept of Education to staff up to make up for Trump's battery of that department to deal with the FAFSA form overhaul passed by Congress at the end of 2020 -- he said, no you'll have to make do, and the result is 300,000 being delayed from starting college in an election year. He brushed off requests at State to beef up intelligence positions Trump had run down, and the result is they got caught by surprise from the fallout from Trump's horrible deal with the Taliban. And those kinds of things were damaging.
@RoboticsJoe it's more than last 4 years or the next 4 years. I encourage you to follow economic trends of the last 40 years concerning the plight of America's working class. Since 1980 the stagnant wages, the increased cost of living. Has earning fallen below inflation? Globalization, deindustrialized economy. A financial economy. These are facts most are unwilling to acknowledge.
@RoboticsJoe the Clinton administration deregulation finance, setting the economy up to fail in 2007-08. Got rid of Glass-Stegal and resisted regulation of derivatives. Didn't enforce anti trust laws allowing DoD contractors to merge, including Boeing and Mcdonald Douglas, setting Boeing up for a failed company producing unsafe jets. Although Republicans wrote NAFTA and reorganized GATT to WTO with China most favorite status, Clinton passed those trade treaties "investors rights treaties" that off shored millions of good paying mfg jobs to mexico and China, creating post industrial waste lands, a despicable almost criminal decimation of America's working class. Clinton while cheating on his wife with a white house intern, deregulation media, creating only 4 major mega media corporations include FOX so called News. Ya tried to go there huh? Look, both parties are corporate parties bought by big donor money. Democrats walked from labor way back in 1968. Hilary calls us deplorable because they hate America's working class. Biden doesn't give a crap either. Biden has lost more union jobs in decades
Also if the intention truly is to protect trans people, making them a focal point of your politics literally accomplishes the opposite by potentially exposing them to blowback. Becasue of democratic messaging if people get angry at the government than trans spces become logical targets in the same way planned parenthoods used to be. In our current climate planting an explosive at a drag bar becomes a logically way to retaliate against a political force that you disagree with.
This is no better evidenced then by us electing a billionaire felon who setup a unaccountable bureaucracy, DOGE, put a couple of billionaire's in charge of it, and the goal is to fire a bunch people.....
Chapters (Powered by @danecjensen) - 00:00 - John Fevereaux, cohost of Pod Save America, joins Raging Moderates 00:34 - Recovering antiincumbent sentiment among white liberals 03:27 - Harris victory hinged on news consumption, minorities, cost of living 06:39 - Social media and family breakdown 07:25 - Young voters concerns about housing, homelessness, jobs, climate change, war, Gaza 10:00 - Millennials isolation, prioritization of finances over community 11:23 - Having all your relationships on your phone is not real 15:09 - North Carolina Republican Nancy Mays Introduces Transphobic Bill 17:09 - Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris refusal to play identity politics hurt her 18:23 - Democrats need to rebuild coalition, appeal to diverse voters 21:28 - Stand up for LGBT Americans, immigrants, Black Americans, Latinos 25:46 - Democratic presidential hopeful Kirsten Gillibrand discusses coalition, ontheground organizing 27:35 - Podcasts influence in election 32:11 - Democrats need goodlooking candidates
Everyone assumes this is about a single spike in tendies and not a 40 year inflation in housing prices. The largest cost is housing and healthcare. The gaslighting continues...they will nnever learn
yes we know that. And everytime Dems try to help this, they get cockblocked. The ACA was made a two legged stool by all the chipping away that was done to it by the other side. I remember what it was supposed to be and what passed. Tell me how do the Rep plan to fix the housing spike? They don't. Just pull up your bootstraps.
so lets keep voting in the Republicans who do nothing but deregulate so Bezos and other billionaires can keep buying up thousands of homes. Ya'll keep playing yourselves.
The spike in housing costs has been absolutely brutal. I always had a knack for sussing out cheap rentals that are were adequate to my needs & close enough to the places I needed to be. Those rentals don’t exist anymore. And rentals are critical for people who are trying to get started in life or re-start their lives.
It’s always the economy. Everything else is secondary. Income inequality is the key issue. 871 Billionaires own 50% of the wealth. That’s a huge problem.
Please stop talking to each other and talk to those people who have full time jobs but are still homeless! Then you’d find some answers to fix the Democrats!
How much are you making and where do you live/want to live??? Someone is building housing that someone is buying and renting. That is the capitalistic economy we live with AND the guy some of these young people voted for (who constantly screwed those he made deals with) claims to be the ultimate capitalist. Makes ZERO sense.
The word is listen to others. They refuse to listen. They refuse to accept Dems left because they lied to us about Biden for 3 years. They were supposed to be the good guys. It turned out both sides are the same.
These people who have full time jobs but are still homeless voted for a clown whose ONLY economic policy is "tariffs", which will increase prices for all clothing goods, some foods, all electronics, housing constructions material etc. The American EDUCATION SYSTEM failed its people. They don't have enough intellectual capacity NOT to vote against their own interests, falling prey to low-level misinformation propaganda.
@@ngwr922 Also even if their analysis is correct and most of the electorit is made up of morally bad people, that still changes nothing and your job in a democracy is to appeal to them. Its very annoying listening to democratic operatives, because they don't understand that politics is not about "better" or "worse" its simply about what is most popular.
I mean, in all honesty, eff the voter. They selected a convicted felon that tried to overthrow the country when he lost and is assembling a cadre of unqualified buffoons to run the country. Time for the voter to find out.
The people diagnosing the problem are the problem. Guys obsessed w the basement that’s like 10% of the overall cost of living crisis. And they won’t mention letting millions of immigrants in puts pressure on housing but if you bring that up u are called racist even if u are a black person 😂
Celebrity endorsements like that aren't to convince voters directly, they're to energize the crowd that is there and to get press for their political rallies, it's an optics thing - "Look how many people are there cheering and waving flags, we have momentum!"
@@MsShavone21 elon musk spent 44B to take over a media apparatus that allowed him to use algorithms to turn targeted political messaging on its head - all while you idiots sat there pretending he'd just screwed himself by "ruining" twitter. People like you are why Democrats are killing one another right now trying not to be responsible for the cumulative stupid that brought you all to now.
Scott, you're Jacques Necker asking Marie Antoinette how Louis could have prevented the French Revolution. This is the problem asking the problem how to solve the problem.
Housing. It's a supply issue, not a demand issue. Fix housing by: barring corporate ownership of single family homes; restricting single family home zoning; and ending all tax benefits for 2d/3d/4th homes - triple tax them -- we do not need the proliferation of short term rentals. Housing is an allocation/distribution problem, not a demand problem. A third of my neighborhood homes sit empty 6+ months - and my HOA bars short term rentals. Open these homes up to single and double family living and we'll have a community again.
During the downturn thats exactly what corporations did...bought up homes ...absolutely correct but Republicans don't seem to care or want to do anything about that...capitalism and all....Dems tried but could not break thru...
About 15 to 20 years ago, I knew lots of boomers who were happy that the housing market was going up. They were thrilled because they planned on selling their expensive houses one day to supplement their retirement. Politicians for the longest time have not wanted to upset that apple cart.
You got that right. Trying to psychoanalyze everything to justify all these degrees they have just make them move obnoxious to the rest of the country.
@ApexEater not hating them. Just tired of hearing all these analysis and conclusions that makes THEM feel good because we are deceived and they are virtuous.
When you grow up being constantly told you live in the "GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH" you never grow up and will always be susceptible to the candy man pushing unrealistic promises.
People also don’t remember, Kamala Harris ran for president in 2020. In the Iowa caucus on the democrat side, Harris was ranked like 5th or 6th of all dem candidates in Iowa. She shouldn’t have been the nominee in the first place. She got to “skip” the primary process and that’s on the party overall
Stoppppppp. Good grief, learn something about how elections work. In 2020, Biden, like all presidential candidates, chose someone that strengthened him where he was weak. In 2024, those calling for Biden to drop out failed to recognize that, legally,the $ in his war chest could only go to Harris (they were part of the same ticket). She HAD to be the candidate. Moreover, people voted for a guy that attempted a coup d' ETAT against the United States of America! That says more about the voters than the candidate.
@donaldjohnson-e8f They keep deleting comments on here. Don't say anything about her or you get your commented deleted. Remember, these people are snowflakes.
The only not credential-ing and highlighting their own elitness, was Scott. But let’s abandon identity politics. I believe this is going to take a while to recover…..
I have watched a few now and Galloway truly does not get it. Median income in the US is around $42,000 and he is preaching to the 1% and how WE should all be the 1% or just accept that WE should have much less. WE want there to be differences in wealth (communism=bad) but WE do not believe in Billionaires. Over 100 grand a year and your taxes will be steep and progressive and society will be more egalitarian.
The part where Favreau talks about what Crooked can do going forward really irked me. He talks about being an advocate for the "pro democracy coalition" and wanting to have "good faith conversations" with all the members of a big tent. Then immediately rolls his eyes at the existence of "lefty" podcasts.
Yeah, they really need to do more of what he's doing here...talk to as many people in as many places as possible. All of the guys from PSA are capable of talking like people instead of politicians, too, and that's a huge must at the moment. They need less eye rolling about anyone willing to talk to them and more of this type of conversation with as many people as possible.
Why does Jessica always call herself highly educated? And the tone she uses, in my opinion is like nails on a chalkboard! I wish Scott would have not chosen her as a co-host. With that said, I will still watch Scott's other podcasts! And, shout out to Jon Favreau! I love Pod Save America and always appreciate Jon's political analysis!
So a problem with the "Democrats need to get out of identity politics" argument is that Kamala didn't really run on that. Republicans are the ones focused on that. Also I don't think Democrats should abandon groups like black voters and trans people. They should help the working class more than they have been and do a better job of messaging that. Focusing on being too "woke" is missing the point completely.
The Democrats have been saying and doing woke stuff. They can't just not talk about it when they start running. Republicans just ran ads using Kamala's own words, powerful. People aren't dumb, they knew Kamala was for Defunding the Police and Trans surgeries for Illegals.
I believe you are missing the point. It was a sham to have 4 yrs of woke policies and the pretend it wasn't an issue for the majority of voters or ignore it during the champagne. Average voters are too aware of that lunacy to be fooled.
I am white, non- college educated, from a red state but a Lefty. I couldn't have given a less of a shit about trumps Anti-Trans ad. I was insulted that they thought i would be. But I'm just me. I was never voting for either of them.
you guys just cant READ the ROOM. 2/3 of america is not college educated or highly educated. These folks are LIVING daily life, SPENDING money, and evaluating inflation impacting them. The overall push of "alternative" living of a 1% of the population. Prof G is great but it just shocks me HOW out of touch the last couple videos have been. pay attention its the economy and folks DO NOT like what they are seeing. but thank you for addressing the MASCULITY issue.
@@blakesmith5198totally agree! The amount of times I heard prof talk about how great the economy is and how inflation is now under control with no understanding of the fact that the damage of high inflation had already been done and that wages have come nowhere near catching up literally had me shouting at the phone (and I love prof G!)….
They didn't address the masculinity issue AT ALL. Scott asked about it, but Favreau wouldn't engage with it. He's typical of the weak, feminist men who are the face of the Democratic Party. And therein lies the Democrat's problem with men.
@@blakesmith5198 They didn't address the masculinity issue AT ALL. Scott asked about it, but Favreau wouldn't engage with it. He's typical of the feminist men who are the face of the Democratic Party. And therein lies the Democrat's problem with men.
Favreau is soooooo avoidant about having to focus on men's issues for even 10 seconds. He refused to do it. He IMMEDIATELY ran away from that and talked about young "people" as a whole and so did the female guest. This is the whole problem. At best, media Democrats will ignore men, at worst vilify and demonize them. And they will continue to lose them.
Question: Is Medicare for All or Universal healthcare still a far left position, or is it time that the “radical moderates” accept it? What about a wealth tax or minimum wage increase to $18 an hour?
All of these would be the platform of the party that wins. Don't care what they call themselves - Democrat, Republican, Independent - they run on that platform, and that platform only, and they win. You have to show you can make the numbers work, but they *can* work. The political will just isn't there from either major party right now.
@ Well there’s a lot of campaign donations that might explain why. And a lot of people in the media, and a lot of podcasts…. that ignore the effects of the donors.
Scott promoted $25 an hour, and universal healthcare too. Wealth tax would go against the constitution. Let's just stick with transactional taxes, and jack up the tax on realized capital gains instead.
@@RickyWashington-pl1jo Yeah, loans should be taxed the same as income. When (if) you repay them you could deduct the taxes you paid from your next year's taxes.
I think it's ironic, not that Jon was endorsing this, but to say that Democratic bosses talk about reaching more people by appearing on MSNBC vs. Going on podcasts (which surely is a smaller market that no one pays attention to). But given that to gain access to MSNBC at least in Northern IL, you have to pay over $100 a month for a TV package if channels that includes MSNBC. I haven't had cable TV for over 10 years because of the absurd cost of cable TV programming. So I didn't care who you put on MSNBC, my eyes will never see those people, because i have chosen to spend my news and information dollar in more targeted ways than a $185/month TV&Internet subscription to my local cable TV provider. I think the 50 million sets of eyes that they think they're getting on MSNBC are already in the echo chamber of the people you think you're trying to reach. Because only people at a certain income level are going to be able to afford those kinds of costs, which are the gatekeeper for eyes on MSNBC.
AT 10:27 community has disappeared many years ago. My father bought a home on LI 37yrs ago, he never spoke with neighbors, no local friends. Asked him why and he said "everyone's too busy trying to pay their mortgage"...he still has some of the same neighbors from waaaay back, and they still dont communicate. That's just an example of suburban society - everyone's grinding. Anyhow, we have no community, and largely speaking we have no pride being Americans. In the 40's everyone pulled their weight to win WWII...Jimmy Doolittle mastered a plan to launch B25's from an aircraft carrier on a 1 way bombing mission. The Manhattan Project, building warships, bombers, tanks, munitions, etc. Folks took chances back then, large stakes, huge risk - whatever it takes. Today, if we had to fight a war on the scale of WWII, we don't stand a chance.
This podcast is a classic example of how what is important to the elite managerial class is irrelevant (and possibly harmful and alienating) to much of the electorate. Rob Henderson understands this and has explained better than anybody why this is such a conundrum for the Democrats.
Is the goal of forging more productive paths for the party of democrats ever at cross-purposes with the goal of retaining/building viewership on Pod Save America?
It is GOOD and HEALTHY that a large majority of people do not obsessively and chronically consume news and media. In decades past, people read a morning paper and watched the evening news, and the rest of the day, they spent living their life, working their jobs, and being a part of their local community. The people who you call “low information voters” are probably a heck of a lot more productive and hard working than those who are constantly online.
Jon, 13:17 “I think we’ve gotten away from that a little bit.” No, you’ve gotten away from that more than a little bit. Until that is accepted, loses will continue.
Dems are the party that stick up to protect the rights of the marginalized. Repubs will always make it their weapon every election cycle. Blacks in the 60s, gays in the 70s, "welfare queens" in the 80s, "Obama phones" in the 2000s , "Caravans coming across the border" etc.. Now it's trans who have been demonized. Dems only talk about it to the extent of trying to protect them and help them, because repubs have made them the new boogie-men. Because repubs know they can't run on policy because their policy is for the elite class. So they twist it, and demonize and create fear because people react to fear tactics. Name one repub policy that has actually been to help the middle and lower class.
Though she had no faith in herself lasting 60 seconds without autocue - on reflection maybe good call as the more people here from Kamala the less they like her
I disagree, some other TH-camr show mentioned the important things on those podcasts (Rogan, Theo Von ...) is AUTHENTICITY. Kamala comes off as a career opportunistic politician, I doubt she can sit and chill and truly be herself for 3 hours. If she came off awkward for 2-3 hours it would no way have helped her.
I do think she and TW should have gone on, but that said I don't think it would have helped at all. I dip in and out of watching Rogan and Theo. (white suburban mom here who loves KH but listens to a lot of pods you might not think I'd listen to) But I don't think their main audience would have been moved to run out and vote for her.
@@lisaz943 I agree that it may not have helped, although much of the criticism against her was that she was only prepared to do soft-ball interviews. Joe (and Lex) are about as easy as you get and she wasn't prepared to take the risk. That signalled that she wasn't even prepared to meet their audiences, which made her look either weak or rude. She didn't have to shine, she just needed to show up. The thing people really wanted to see was whether she could hold a 2-3 hour conversation without handlers & a teleprompter. This is going to be a major factor for future elections. Future candidates best be prepared because mainstream media alone can't save them anymore.
@@ChimpuruBlast Scott was implying that wasn't offered access to the Bro-Pods and was stuck with Call me Daddy, on condition they build a fake studio set to manage the environment. And Rogan did the right thing, refusing to cut the conversation to 1 hour on her turf. Inauthentic all the way... I agree, the word salad would have been the same (perhaps longer) but not showing up was even worse. Trump showed up everywhere, Harris needed to be within bluetooth range of her handlers.
Matt Gaetz is not the craziest pick out of all the cabinet choices. Health and Education is the backbone of progress. RFK and McMahon are death knell for helping children get out of loneliness and hatred spiral.
To me, that’s not a pleasant thing to admit about our politics as it’s so reductive, but in addition to having a first class character, Trump’s specialty was branding. Polishing the turd.
'Politician' is a poisonous brand right now. You win by being anything other than a politician right now. That could change - if Trump bungles things badly this time around, there may be a swing to *only* politicians - but at least at the moment, if people catch a whiff of politician, you're toast.
@@bobhoyng5915 Fair enough. His 2nd key to winning was by 'disrupting' or pretending to be a disruptor of Govt. What's sad to me though is that he is, and always has been, only a performer. So its surprising to me (or maybe not), that you and so many include ' this time around'. Sorry but that sounds like the battered gf who says: This time he promised..... Its a funny/sad thing.
@@chexcollects Is it. Can you point to 3 things as to how it is? But actually, be exact. And if that's the case and you like it, give Biden props, cause he's the one in office. But this tells me you're a culty.
As an ex leftist, watching the left wing media after the election has been interesting and without doubt the one person who understands why working class people have left them, was Ezra Klein.
If you and the DNC talked to focus groups and knew what their issues were then why the hell didn’t the Harris campaign mention these issues!?!! Why wait will end of election to mention it?!
I still don't get all the handwringing about "Democrats always push identity politics",. I can't remember a single time I felt like a Democrat was "pushing identity politics" on me in any overt way. I just always felt like Democrats were for a Democracy that respects and supports "plurality" (a diverse populace). The country over the past 100 years, has always benefited from diversity and immigrants and individuality. I'd hate to see Democrats shirk back from that. It's a central vein of what America is. I don't want to see us become a "white christian nation" (excluding everyone else). I want to see us become a vibrant, diverse nation that is strong because of celebrating (and supporting) everyone's individuality.
I honestly thought this as well...until I started looking for it. The entire Seth Moulton situation is a microcosm of what's wrong with the party right now. Purity testing people in your own party and pushing extreme edge cases as the party line.
@@bobhoyng5915 The Seth Moulton situation is that the dude who tried to run for president and nobody remembered his name, the only thing he's doing is trying to make a name for himself by being a piece of shit publicly. Dude sucks, end of story.
@@scruffopone3989 Ok, but even if you believe that, he's still predominantly on the right side of most issues. Let's not trash people that are, for the most part, on our side. That's what I'm illustrating here. It's a horrible habit on the left right now to tear down anyone that doesn't completely agree with every single progressive policy. To be clear, I don't feel he's being a piece of shit, but that doesn't matter. That's a matter of opinion. The point isn't whether he's right or wrong, earnest or opportunist. It's that we need to stop the friendly fire if we want people to be able to run successful campaigns outside of the most liberal districts. If you purity test every politician, then you can only win in heavily blue districts. And in addition, you'll never have Democrats like Joe Manchin. Not saying Manchin is great, or even good, but he's a hell of a lot better than the Republican that will end up replacing him. We need the Joe Manchin's to stave off the worse options, and to have those Joe Manchin's, we need to give Democrats the space to move right without getting killed politically by their own.
@@bobhoyng5915 I challenge you to come up with policy positions that Seth has organically that he is known for. Because that list is probably filled with one or two items at most. The man's rep within the party was neutral to nothing before but now his rep is "that dickhead that threw people under the bus to boost his own profile". And frankly the difference between a Manchin and a Republican is one will never vote for a child tax credit. And the other will kill it.
Democrats need to speak to the working class. Forget white collar. We know how they vote. As long as the working class has security and is valued, you'll get their vote.
@사이프레스-y5c you have a point. Middle class typically refers to all stripes across an income field. Working class, in this context, is manual labor. I consider myself a white middle-class person. Either way, the ones that turn the gears need respect and protection.
again, not even a peep about the income inequality that's the root cause of the discontent. 2/3rd of america hasn't seen a real wage increase since 1979. Promote a 21st century New Deal focused on FDR's new bill of rights. Address the obscene disparity ceo to line worker. It's not that hard. bernie's been trying to get you to listen for decades.
The fact that these people get paid whatever they do for being so full of shit, is proof that this world is so inherently fucked up, it's beyond saving. Imagine how large these peoples' bank accounts are, for just spouting shit off the top of their heads into a camera. Injustice incarnate.
Finding a candidate like that who actually knows how to get legislation done is very, very hard. Americans always vote for the cool kid over the smart kid. That’s a problem.
@@bensimpson9175 Right... this guy is acting like Republicans are entitled to be invited to a discussions of democrats self-reflecting about their own party
The resistance is gone because these three have been increasingly the archetypes of the Democratic party (center left con men who would rather pivot to the fascists they claim to hate rather than talk about real policy that helps everyday Americans sooner rather than later). The resistance movement is against the two party oligarchy that works for the capitalist system Galloway benefits from. The Democratic party needs less Bill Mahers representing them. It's worth noting that the people saying identity politics doesn't work were the first to create and join the White Men for Harris Zoom call.
I’m a predominantly right leaning voter. Figured I’d stop by to hear what was hopefully well thought out left wing critiques of their party. Instead we hear about how they are highly educated voters and the people who vote for Trump aren’t smart enough to vote for their candidate. Keep doubling down on that and see where it gets you.
Scott, I hate to break it to ya, but America’s decline started in the ‘70s & ‘80s. The decline started to pick up steam in the ‘90s. The parents of the some of the kids entering the workforce were already having to rely more on perfect decision making & good luck to keep their heads above water.
See, Scott thinking Rogan is red & not purple is the problem. I’ll never forget during The Spotify Cancellation of two years ago he & Kara pretty badly & clumsily mischaracterized him. For someone “obsessed” with young men & their problems, his ignorance of Rogan is baffling.
this is one thing that really gets me. Not putting Harris on Rogan was political malpractice of the highest order. It's 70 million ratings for something like that.
In comparison to Trump a potted plant is mentally sharp...even if he was literally in a memory care center Biden would have still been a reasonable choice versus Trump.
@17:19 The answer regarding trans athletes in sports is simple. Ban gender divisions in sports and require skill divisions. It is just that easy to eliminate this as an issue and make sports more enjoyable for all.
That's a good example of an insane proposal to appear "inclusive" to 0.05% of the population. Not simple at all, not workable and not necessary if people are willing to tell the truth that male and female are properties of nature and not ideas in people's head.
The condescending tone when talking about "dudes" and "finally, it's bros time" at 24:11 it's just not going to cut it. I don't think that any man that moved right that has supported women's rights or still supports it does it with tghe mentality that is being pushed forward of "future is female", or this is women's time at the sun, while we roll over to the side. It's either not a zero sum view of the issue, or even when it is it's more of "we can scotch over a little bit, and this seat can fit us both equally uncomfortably". All this condescension and that you have to preface every discussion about men recognizing that women have issues too makes it seems like the person not only believes it's zero sum, but that men should just accept being treated as the problem kid, take the loss and just roll over to the side. This is NOT going to be productive, nobody is going to take that standing.
I feel one problem, spoken by Jess Tarlov, was when she said "I am hopeful this is part, with this rebrand going forward." When cannot be successful with just a rebrand. We need REFORM. Being the party of Woke did not serve us well.
When you don't have an economy that young can say is getting better for them, then they don't have the luxury of concentrating on LGBTQ rights or Russia invading Ukraine or climate change. Arts and culture thrived in Europe during colonialism because of a strong economy. As our economy gets worse, we will go back to our basic human nature which is survival.
I think there were three major issues, in my opinion, in this election for Dems: 1- the educational divide is very, very real and it cuts across race. The educational divide is about class. Higher educated people mostly voted Harris, lower educated mostly voted Trump. 2- we have a major problem with a growing voter base that will vote on emotion and not valid information. They are also influenced by alternative forms of media that are by and large biased and unvetted. Uninformed voters are an issue. 2- Harris had an uphill battle distancing herself from Biden and Biden wasn’t popular. Ultimately, she never painted herself to those swing voters as a change from him.
Yes. Get government back in the business of governing -- infrastructure, clean food, clean water. We'll work out the culture war stuff out here in our real life villages.
I think to get the uninformed voters, you have to put someone in play not based on experience, but instead based on name recognition. You have to play The Rock against a Trump card.
Uninformed would be the audience that believes boys are girls, the border is fine, crime is down, use pretend pronouns, or that believed Joe was “sharp as a tack”? Exactly what are you going to share with your version of the uninformed voter?
Were those white women you label uninformed? Or do they prioritize their kids safety over “abortion as contraception”? If you spent less time talking down to people and more time listening you may learn a bit more than you think you know.
7:04 Did he even use the word “men” in his answer? Maybe I’m crazy At no point in this podcast does he talk about men in fact, now that I’ve listened to the whole thing. What a YUUUUUUGE blind spot. He was asked about 6 questions about men and dodged it every time.
I disagree with 19:54 that the ad would've been effective without the gender affirming care piece. I think most people would be OK if a prisoner was dying and they received healthcare. I think the issue is people assume getting puberty blockers or estrogen/testosterone injections to be a luxury similar to like lasik surgery or TRT treatment men get sometimes. It's the perceived luxury of the treatment in that they could easily survive without it that made it bad.
Everyone is just jumping at the opportunity to confirm their prior beliefs. 250,000 votes in a different direction in three states and this conversation is so different
Two questions I have: 1) What happened to the older swing state GOP and independent voter who was disgusted with Trump…especially after January 6, 2020, who might vote for a Democratic candidate who ran a campaign that stressed centrist positions and “not being crazy”? Were they just a mirage? 2) I saw a lot of Trump signs outside big houses in rural areas, on expensive new pickup trucks, and at boat marinas. Not exactly “starving masses”. Was the image of the “starving” Trump voter true? 3) As hokey as it might sound, I actually think the Democratic Party messaging needs an infusion of “prosperity gospel” and “small business chamber of commerce boosterism”. I suspect that many minority men voted for Trump and thought he “got them” because although they may have been “working poor” they are, in fact, hustling hard to get ahead and can somehow relate to a faux-billionaire who is constantly complaining about “getting the government off his back”.
What’s the difference between “doing much worse than your parents”…and…”having parents who did really well”? The reason I ask is that I am 70 and live in what I’ll just call the “upper middle class” and while I did better than my parents, in my wife’s family, most are “comfortable” but only on person has done better than her great grandparents who actually were quite wealthy in the 20s, 30s and 40s. Sometimes the wealthy parent simply helps children have reasonably comfortable middle-class lives. Sometimes it’s “poverty to wealth and then back to poverty in 2 generations. My point is that it’s “relative” betterment.
I'm going to guess none of these people have ever talked to a guy working at the Deere plant outside Davenport Iowa, yet they are surprised they can't connect with them
Nobody talked to me when I mowed lawns, worked the kitchen at Roy Roger's, pressed plastic containers on 12 hour shifts for 7.50 an hour, was a security guard or packed 14000 Kriss Kross cds at the Sony factory. Why does everyone think they deserve a profile piece because of where they work?
The cold reality is.... People don't seem to really like these liberals, including a growing number of long time democrat voters. It seems they only care about college educated women, black women, Hollywood/pop celebrities. People don't like trump.. but they don't like these kinda people either and are tired of being talked down to. "We may agree with some of your ideas... But we don't want you or the people around you to lead us" They just can't fathom that.
@MichaelBrashier I live in the sf bay area... About 8 million people. You'd think we're only tech workers and activists based on the media. Never mind most people aren't rich, are mostly moderate to center left. National Dems only visit us/the area to get $$$ from the ultra rich. You could see how resentment builds up over decades. But hey... Rich people on tv and celebrity say that we're all "fine" and need to vote for their candidate. Many if us have voted democrat for decades.. we hate trump.. but now we don't like liberals either 🤷♂️
28:43 Talk to the people you so loathe. RFK, Tulsi, Joe Rogan, Elon, JD Vance, Kasparian, even Trump - invite them on. Tell them why they're so bad, then let them respond. Have good-faith conversations and if you can make a solid case why they're bad for America (outside of the usual overzealous slurs), you will win a more diverse audience and voters.
Ask a liar what he thinks? What purpose does that serve?
You tell us. You must be lying to yourself every waking moment to get through the day.
People don’t agree to adversarial interviews. Lex Fridman has interviewed Elon Musk like 35 times and every time, Lex says, “I’ll never back away from asking the tough questions”, and yet somehow, it’s a three hour Elon hugbox.
question : why are they “Bad” just for having different political opinions? Maybe that attitude is the problem - our side needs to lighten up.
Scott and Jessica are limousine liberals. Jessica married a rich man, Scott is rich and his wife is a CEO. They literally CANNOT relate to anyone in america.
From my perspective as a German, having worked in the US for a long time: This guy Scott Galloway is just describing himself exactly as the problem: "I'm highly educated and just speak for highly educated people." Guy, go out and speak with the craftsmen, with the server and so on. These are the folks keeping a country alive. I'm in a management position in one of the biggest German tech companies and also have a high education degree. But I feel as part of the working people. I'm chairman of a fishing club with more than 300 people, most being from the less educated parts of the society. But these folks are the first helping and supporting when something needs to be done. And they struggle with paying their bills and each year I align with a lot of them how to stretch the payments for the club so that they can continue to go fishing. These people currently suffer and these people are the mass and they finally decide an election. Wake up, dude!
Bingo!
Well said!
Huh? Did you even watch this video? He mentions exactly what you said when he talked about how a lot of young men are struggling.
@@OldenPolyNate yeah, the trillionaire is worried about the working class. ok.
So much this. Those whose prescribe themselves as highly educated ignore the needs of those that are the backbone of society yet lecture them how to think/vote.
Jon Favreau is a knowledgeable guest who has been involved with politics for many years.. I appreciate the conversation and getting to the fact of millions of Americans who just want to have food and shelter security.
Found Jon Favreaus alt account. Hey Jon.
Jon Favreau is a speechwriter. He can masquerade as a political operator all he wants, but he wrote pretty words that were well suited to Obama's oratorical style. He's not a serious political thinker. He's not someone who has ever made tough decisions at the top of a campaign. He's a pretty face who built a media company so he could go to work in t-shirts.
Financial worries are a huge part of young men feeling disenfranchised.
Bingo. When you’re struggling to pay your rent, bills & car insurance getting laid is not the first item on your priorities list.
The problem with dems thinking podcasts will save them is that the "sea of red" as Scott called it is largely not political in nature. These are platforms that mostly talk about a variety of topics other than politics that appeal to young men (combat sports, comedy, working out, self-improvement, etc). Rogan, Theo Von, Lex Fridman, Logan Paul, Nelk Boys are all podcasts Trump and/or Vance went on that are not political shows. Creating a competitor to pod save america does nothing.
Yes. It needs to feel like common sense points. That’s what Elon and Trump and JD Vance did so well on these podcasts. They seemed like the obvious common sense people that are trying to make America as good as it can be. Not saying I agree or disagree. But it came off that way very well.
@@Ray-dl5mpThat's overstating things. They came across as normal politicians, because they weren't challenged on their incredible corruption.
@ well yes you’re correct they weren’t being asked tough questions by journalists. But that’s basically my point. This is the new world. If you’re seen as down to earth and a common sense person on a popular laid back conversation, that comes off well. Very well. I get that you want hard hitting journalistic questions, but that’s wishing for something else from what I’m discussing. The republicans are winning that battle convincingly right now. And Democrats need to come off a lot better if they want to stand a chance. But they lost a key battle and now Elon and Rogan and company control a lot of the narratives.
They are not overtly political, but they are undoubtedly right leaning, a Democrat simply going on to those shows would not be well received as well as Trump and Vance are. Whatever the reason maybe they are all right leaning, Trump supporting, Democrat hating 'nonpolitical' ecosystems.
@@validatedclassified2564 You have it backwards. Democrats hate men and label masculinity as "toxic", so naturally these podcasts are right leaning. My point is that Dems have demonized men and the things they like, so they won't be able to just create their own version of the manosphere podcasts. The closest thing they have is Hasan Piker who is problematic for other reasons.
"I believe the Democratic party should absolutely get out of identity politics." Spot on ✅
It works for Trump. He attacks literally every identity outside his own.
They can’t. They dug themselves into this hole and it is very difficult to get out of. In fact , this guy’s pod did a whole segment on the congress trans bathroom thing, when they should have not even mentioned it. They couldn’t resist
Republicans ENITIRE PLATFORM IS IDENTITY POLITICS.
Tell that Jessica, she calls herself highly educated. Most blatantly toxic echo chamber she lives in and doesn't learn anything from it. She constantly talks about identity politics, saying she disagrees with Republicans. Yet that's why they lost the election; people are done with identity politics.
@MichaelBrashier thank you!
Still saying messaging? Working class feel poor because they are poor, struggling with increased cost of living. And improved messaging that's condescending won't get people back voting democrat
I think the "improved" part of the messaging is also helping with condescending.
There's absolutely a huge messaging problem. Democrats don't communicate. Harris can and does give hour long economic policy speeches or more, without ever uttering the word "rural". Social media is full of Trump voters suddenly realizing for the first time the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing, and worried about losing their health insurance now. Biden did a bunch of stuff differently from Trump, EU governments and east Asia and did it well, and our inflation abated sooner and earlier than elsewhere as a result and our economy and wages recovered faster, and nobody knows. But there's also an administering problem. Biden brushed off civil service requests at the Dept of Education to staff up to make up for Trump's battery of that department to deal with the FAFSA form overhaul passed by Congress at the end of 2020 -- he said, no you'll have to make do, and the result is 300,000 being delayed from starting college in an election year. He brushed off requests at State to beef up intelligence positions Trump had run down, and the result is they got caught by surprise from the fallout from Trump's horrible deal with the Taliban. And those kinds of things were damaging.
@RoboticsJoe it's more than last 4 years or the next 4 years. I encourage you to follow economic trends of the last 40 years concerning the plight of America's working class. Since 1980 the stagnant wages, the increased cost of living. Has earning fallen below inflation? Globalization, deindustrialized economy. A financial economy. These are facts most are unwilling to acknowledge.
@RoboticsJoe the Clinton administration deregulation finance, setting the economy up to fail in 2007-08. Got rid of Glass-Stegal and resisted regulation of derivatives. Didn't enforce anti trust laws allowing DoD contractors to merge, including Boeing and Mcdonald Douglas, setting Boeing up for a failed company producing unsafe jets. Although Republicans wrote NAFTA and reorganized GATT to WTO with China most favorite status, Clinton passed those trade treaties "investors rights treaties" that off shored millions of good paying mfg jobs to mexico and China, creating post industrial waste lands, a despicable almost criminal decimation of America's working class. Clinton while cheating on his wife with a white house intern, deregulation media, creating only 4 major mega media corporations include FOX so called News. Ya tried to go there huh? Look, both parties are corporate parties bought by big donor money. Democrats walked from labor way back in 1968. Hilary calls us deplorable because they hate America's working class. Biden doesn't give a crap either. Biden has lost more union jobs in decades
Yeah. It's all they have to offer. The PSA boys have gotten away with this elitist fart-sniffing since 2016.
Democrats should literally never say trans. 0.5 percent of the population should not take so much time.
Please keeping think this way. Please keep claiming that trans bullshit isn’t a central tenet of Democrat values.
they wanna keep losing for the next 20 years.
Also if the intention truly is to protect trans people, making them a focal point of your politics literally accomplishes the opposite by potentially exposing them to blowback. Becasue of democratic messaging if people get angry at the government than trans spces become logical targets in the same way planned parenthoods used to be. In our current climate planting an explosive at a drag bar becomes a logically way to retaliate against a political force that you disagree with.
They can’t help themselves. They think “if Republicans disagree we must go all in”. They avoid biology and common sense far too often.
Republicans should literally stop breaking the laws or supporting those who do.
Until we deal with wealth inequality nothing will change. We don't have a democracy..we have an oligarchy
This is no better evidenced then by us electing a billionaire felon who setup a unaccountable bureaucracy, DOGE, put a couple of billionaire's in charge of it, and the goal is to fire a bunch people.....
PRO TIP - stop referring to yourselves as highly educated.
Highly Douchebagged
Its like asking a Tesla owner not saying he's a Tesla owner.
@@flaviosouza5709 It means your parents paid for all your liberal arts degrees.
If these people had the option to remove the franchise from people without college degrees they would.do it in a second
@@willpayne3647 bullshit
Chapters (Powered by @danecjensen) -
00:00 - John Fevereaux, cohost of Pod Save America, joins Raging Moderates
00:34 - Recovering antiincumbent sentiment among white liberals
03:27 - Harris victory hinged on news consumption, minorities, cost of living
06:39 - Social media and family breakdown
07:25 - Young voters concerns about housing, homelessness, jobs, climate change, war, Gaza
10:00 - Millennials isolation, prioritization of finances over community
11:23 - Having all your relationships on your phone is not real
15:09 - North Carolina Republican Nancy Mays Introduces Transphobic Bill
17:09 - Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris refusal to play identity politics hurt her
18:23 - Democrats need to rebuild coalition, appeal to diverse voters
21:28 - Stand up for LGBT Americans, immigrants, Black Americans, Latinos
25:46 - Democratic presidential hopeful Kirsten Gillibrand discusses coalition, ontheground organizing
27:35 - Podcasts influence in election
32:11 - Democrats need goodlooking candidates
thank you
Everyone assumes this is about a single spike in tendies and not a 40 year inflation in housing prices. The largest cost is housing and healthcare.
The gaslighting continues...they will nnever learn
This is not wrong, but also naive. Like yeah, things are shitty, but the people most responsible for that shitines got elected. So ....
exactly they keep misssing the point
yes we know that. And everytime Dems try to help this, they get cockblocked. The ACA was made a two legged stool by all the chipping away that was done to it by the other side. I remember what it was supposed to be and what passed. Tell me how do the Rep plan to fix the housing spike? They don't. Just pull up your bootstraps.
so lets keep voting in the Republicans who do nothing but deregulate so Bezos and other billionaires can keep buying up thousands of homes. Ya'll keep playing yourselves.
The spike in housing costs has been absolutely brutal. I always had a knack for sussing out cheap rentals that are were adequate to my needs & close enough to the places I needed to be. Those rentals don’t exist anymore. And rentals are critical for people who are trying to get started in life or re-start their lives.
It’s always the economy. Everything else is secondary.
Income inequality is the key issue. 871 Billionaires own 50% of the wealth.
That’s a huge problem.
Please stop talking to each other and talk to those people who have full time jobs but are still homeless! Then you’d find some answers to fix the Democrats!
How much are you making and where do you live/want to live??? Someone is building housing that someone is buying and renting. That is the capitalistic economy we live with AND the guy some of these young people voted for (who constantly screwed those he made deals with) claims to be the ultimate capitalist. Makes ZERO sense.
The word is listen to others.
They refuse to listen.
They refuse to accept Dems left because they lied to us about Biden for 3 years.
They were supposed to be the good guys. It turned out both sides are the same.
These people who have full time jobs but are still homeless voted for a clown whose ONLY economic policy is "tariffs", which will increase prices for all clothing goods, some foods, all electronics, housing constructions material etc. The American EDUCATION SYSTEM failed its people. They don't have enough intellectual capacity NOT to vote against their own interests, falling prey to low-level misinformation propaganda.
Blaming the voter is not going to work
@@ngwr922 Also even if their analysis is correct and most of the electorit is made up of morally bad people, that still changes nothing and your job in a democracy is to appeal to them. Its very annoying listening to democratic operatives, because they don't understand that politics is not about "better" or "worse" its simply about what is most popular.
They are formally educated but man they sure like to show-off their ignorance. And double down on it.
This is almost reaching the level of MSNBC comedy and elitism.
I mean, in all honesty, eff the voter. They selected a convicted felon that tried to overthrow the country when he lost and is assembling a cadre of unqualified buffoons to run the country. Time for the voter to find out.
The people diagnosing the problem are the problem. Guys obsessed w the basement that’s like 10% of the overall cost of living crisis.
And they won’t mention letting millions of immigrants in puts pressure on housing but if you bring that up u are called racist even if u are a black person 😂
Dems ran the best campaign…for 2004. Trotting out Oprah Winfrey and John Legend at political rallies means nothing to today’s voter.
Heard the DNC Chairwoman say the cost for Oprah to appear was not the 1 million originally stated. Receipts show it as 2.5 million.
Celebrity endorsements like that aren't to convince voters directly, they're to energize the crowd that is there and to get press for their political rallies, it's an optics thing - "Look how many people are there cheering and waving flags, we have momentum!"
You say this as if Trump didn’t trot out Elon Musk and Dana White.
@@MsShavone21 elon musk spent 44B to take over a media apparatus that allowed him to use algorithms to turn targeted political messaging on its head - all while you idiots sat there pretending he'd just screwed himself by "ruining" twitter.
People like you are why Democrats are killing one another right now trying not to be responsible for the cumulative stupid that brought you all to now.
@@MsShavone21 Good lord, you really don't understand do you.
I cant buy a house nor do i have a 6 figure job! Im just bitter so ive checked out😢
repubs would say you should pull yourself up by your bootstraps. And people in your position voted for them overwhelmingly. Reap what you sow.
Scott, you're Jacques Necker asking Marie Antoinette how Louis could have prevented the French Revolution. This is the problem asking the problem how to solve the problem.
People are blaming the “incumbent shift” on inflation but the reality is people are sick and tired of the world neoliberalism created
Neoliberalism is just neoimperialism.
Globalization only benefits mega corps.
Housing. It's a supply issue, not a demand issue. Fix housing by: barring corporate ownership of single family homes; restricting single family home zoning; and ending all tax benefits for 2d/3d/4th homes - triple tax them -- we do not need the proliferation of short term rentals. Housing is an allocation/distribution problem, not a demand problem. A third of my neighborhood homes sit empty 6+ months - and my HOA bars short term rentals. Open these homes up to single and double family living and we'll have a community again.
During the downturn thats exactly what corporations did...bought up homes ...absolutely correct but Republicans don't seem to care or want to do anything about that...capitalism and all....Dems tried but could not break thru...
Need to get the cost of new builds down without hurting quality. New builds can't be $350+ a sqft thats just insane.
Flooding the country with immigrants makes low income housing more expensive.
About 15 to 20 years ago, I knew lots of boomers who were happy that the housing market was going up. They were thrilled because they planned on selling their expensive houses one day to supplement their retirement. Politicians for the longest time have not wanted to upset that apple cart.
And don’t let rich a-holes from other countries buy up American real estate unless they plan on living in it!
You still dont get it.
You got that right. Trying to psychoanalyze everything to justify all these degrees they have just make them move obnoxious to the rest of the country.
Can you help us get it?
@@rctteensmaJust hating people because they have a degree is a dumb starting point for any further opinion about them.
@ApexEater not hating them. Just tired of hearing all these analysis and conclusions that makes THEM feel good because we are deceived and they are virtuous.
When you grow up being constantly told you live in the "GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH" you never grow up and will always be susceptible to the candy man pushing unrealistic promises.
People also don’t remember, Kamala Harris ran for president in 2020. In the Iowa caucus on the democrat side, Harris was ranked like 5th or 6th of all dem candidates in Iowa. She shouldn’t have been the nominee in the first place. She got to “skip” the primary process and that’s on the party overall
Stoppppppp. Good grief, learn something about how elections work. In 2020, Biden, like all presidential candidates, chose someone that strengthened him where he was weak. In 2024, those calling for Biden to drop out failed to recognize that, legally,the $ in his war chest could only go to Harris (they were part of the same ticket). She HAD to be the candidate. Moreover, people voted for a guy that attempted a coup d' ETAT against the United States of America! That says more about the voters than the candidate.
A big reason Kamala ran was because she was the only candidate who could use the huge amount of campaign money
Scott's so correct, the only 'identity' that matters is green, are you economically disadvantaged NOW. If so, here's a leg up.
Why does Jessica always need to validate herself by saying she's a highly educated woman?
Thank you, I said this exact same thing. Anyone who calls themselves highly educated is usually quite moot in the head.
@donaldjohnson-e8f They keep deleting comments on here. Don't say anything about her or you get your commented deleted. Remember, these people are snowflakes.
The only not credential-ing and highlighting their own elitness, was Scott. But let’s abandon identity politics. I believe this is going to take a while to recover…..
Because she hates herself.
Or is she pointing out she recognizes she's not a member of the social strata she's talking about. She's admitting she's on the outside looking in.
I have watched a few now and Galloway truly does not get it. Median income in the US is around $42,000 and he is preaching to the 1% and how WE should all be the 1% or just accept that WE should have much less. WE want there to be differences in wealth (communism=bad) but WE do not believe in Billionaires. Over 100 grand a year and your taxes will be steep and progressive and society will be more egalitarian.
Scott gets it. Jon sees it as a technical glitch in the matrix.
The part where Favreau talks about what Crooked can do going forward really irked me. He talks about being an advocate for the "pro democracy coalition" and wanting to have "good faith conversations" with all the members of a big tent. Then immediately rolls his eyes at the existence of "lefty" podcasts.
Yeah, they really need to do more of what he's doing here...talk to as many people in as many places as possible.
All of the guys from PSA are capable of talking like people instead of politicians, too, and that's a huge must at the moment. They need less eye rolling about anyone willing to talk to them and more of this type of conversation with as many people as possible.
Exactly. This is all talk honestly. Crooked media has no intention of changing their strategy.
they are never going to learn anything
exactly.
...Apart from how to lose even more in a variety of interesting & surprising ways :)
Maybe, but you’re never going to be anything other than a nihilistic bootlicker.
Why does Jessica always call herself highly educated? And the tone she uses, in my opinion is like nails on a chalkboard! I wish Scott would have not chosen her as a co-host. With that said, I will still watch Scott's other podcasts! And, shout out to Jon Favreau! I love Pod Save America and always appreciate Jon's political analysis!
So a problem with the "Democrats need to get out of identity politics" argument is that Kamala didn't really run on that. Republicans are the ones focused on that. Also I don't think Democrats should abandon groups like black voters and trans people. They should help the working class more than they have been and do a better job of messaging that. Focusing on being too "woke" is missing the point completely.
The Democrats have been saying and doing woke stuff. They can't just not talk about it when they start running. Republicans just ran ads using Kamala's own words, powerful. People aren't dumb, they knew Kamala was for Defunding the Police and Trans surgeries for Illegals.
I believe you are missing the point. It was a sham to have 4 yrs of woke policies and the pretend it wasn't an issue for the majority of voters or ignore it during the champagne. Average voters are too aware of that lunacy to be fooled.
I am white, non- college educated, from a red state but a Lefty. I couldn't have given a less of a shit about trumps Anti-Trans ad. I was insulted that they thought i would be. But I'm just me. I was never voting for either of them.
Need to bring on Tulsi and interview her.
Maybe more of Republicans.
you guys just cant READ the ROOM. 2/3 of america is not college educated or highly educated. These folks are LIVING daily life, SPENDING money, and evaluating inflation impacting them. The overall push of "alternative" living of a 1% of the population. Prof G is great but it just shocks me HOW out of touch the last couple videos have been. pay attention its the economy and folks DO NOT like what they are seeing. but thank you for addressing the MASCULITY issue.
He literally mentioned that if you paid attention. He said the economy was the biggest issue this election because of the high cost of living.
@@cyndikv28 It’s the high cost of living AND the LOW WAGES.
@@blakesmith5198totally agree! The amount of times I heard prof talk about how great the economy is and how inflation is now under control with no understanding of the fact that the damage of high inflation had already been done and that wages have come nowhere near catching up literally had me shouting at the phone (and I love prof G!)….
They didn't address the masculinity issue AT ALL. Scott asked about it, but Favreau wouldn't engage with it. He's typical of the weak, feminist men who are the face of the Democratic Party. And therein lies the Democrat's problem with men.
@@blakesmith5198 They didn't address the masculinity issue AT ALL. Scott asked about it, but Favreau wouldn't engage with it. He's typical of the feminist men who are the face of the Democratic Party. And therein lies the Democrat's problem with men.
Scotts thesis is spot on, why's the media and the Dems IGNORING this fact???
Favreau is soooooo avoidant about having to focus on men's issues for even 10 seconds. He refused to do it. He IMMEDIATELY ran away from that and talked about young "people" as a whole and so did the female guest. This is the whole problem. At best, media Democrats will ignore men, at worst vilify and demonize them. And they will continue to lose them.
Question: Is Medicare for All or Universal healthcare still a far left position, or is it time that the “radical moderates” accept it? What about a wealth tax or minimum wage increase to $18 an hour?
All of these would be the platform of the party that wins. Don't care what they call themselves - Democrat, Republican, Independent - they run on that platform, and that platform only, and they win. You have to show you can make the numbers work, but they *can* work. The political will just isn't there from either major party right now.
@ Well there’s a lot of campaign donations that might explain why. And a lot of people in the media, and a lot of podcasts…. that ignore the effects of the donors.
Scott promoted $25 an hour, and universal healthcare too. Wealth tax would go against the constitution. Let's just stick with transactional taxes, and jack up the tax on realized capital gains instead.
@ Yeah, but something has to be done about the whole “just borrowing against my stocks so I don’t have to sell them” thing.
@@RickyWashington-pl1jo Yeah, loans should be taxed the same as income. When (if) you repay them you could deduct the taxes you paid from your next year's taxes.
I think it's ironic, not that Jon was endorsing this, but to say that Democratic bosses talk about reaching more people by appearing on MSNBC vs. Going on podcasts (which surely is a smaller market that no one pays attention to). But given that to gain access to MSNBC at least in Northern IL, you have to pay over $100 a month for a TV package if channels that includes MSNBC. I haven't had cable TV for over 10 years because of the absurd cost of cable TV programming. So I didn't care who you put on MSNBC, my eyes will never see those people, because i have chosen to spend my news and information dollar in more targeted ways than a $185/month TV&Internet subscription to my local cable TV provider. I think the 50 million sets of eyes that they think they're getting on MSNBC are already in the echo chamber of the people you think you're trying to reach. Because only people at a certain income level are going to be able to afford those kinds of costs, which are the gatekeeper for eyes on MSNBC.
Jon and Jess are a dynamic duo! Love them both!
AT 10:27 community has disappeared many years ago. My father bought a home on LI 37yrs ago, he never spoke with neighbors, no local friends. Asked him why and he said "everyone's too busy trying to pay their mortgage"...he still has some of the same neighbors from waaaay back, and they still dont communicate. That's just an example of suburban society - everyone's grinding. Anyhow, we have no community, and largely speaking we have no pride being Americans. In the 40's everyone pulled their weight to win WWII...Jimmy Doolittle mastered a plan to launch B25's from an aircraft carrier on a 1 way bombing mission. The Manhattan Project, building warships, bombers, tanks, munitions, etc. Folks took chances back then, large stakes, huge risk - whatever it takes. Today, if we had to fight a war on the scale of WWII, we don't stand a chance.
Did I miss any discussion on immigration?!?
This podcast is a classic example of how what is important to the elite managerial class is irrelevant (and possibly harmful and alienating) to much of the electorate. Rob Henderson understands this and has explained better than anybody why this is such a conundrum for the Democrats.
Is the goal of forging more productive paths for the party of democrats ever at cross-purposes with the goal of retaining/building viewership on Pod Save America?
It is not identity politics it is human rights
It is GOOD and HEALTHY that a large majority of people do not obsessively and chronically consume news and media. In decades past, people read a morning paper and watched the evening news, and the rest of the day, they spent living their life, working their jobs, and being a part of their local community. The people who you call “low information voters” are probably a heck of a lot more productive and hard working than those who are constantly online.
100%
Jon, 13:17 “I think we’ve gotten away from that a little bit.” No, you’ve gotten away from that more than a little bit. Until that is accepted, loses will continue.
Dems are the party that stick up to protect the rights of the marginalized. Repubs will always make it their weapon every election cycle. Blacks in the 60s, gays in the 70s, "welfare queens" in the 80s, "Obama phones" in the 2000s , "Caravans coming across the border" etc.. Now it's trans who have been demonized. Dems only talk about it to the extent of trying to protect them and help them, because repubs have made them the new boogie-men. Because repubs know they can't run on policy because their policy is for the elite class. So they twist it, and demonize and create fear because people react to fear tactics. Name one repub policy that has actually been to help the middle and lower class.
Ahh yes, the people who lost telling you why they're right.
Kamala was invited onto Rogan and All-In (and I’m pretty sure Lex would have had her too). Big missed opportunity!
Though she had no faith in herself lasting 60 seconds without autocue - on reflection maybe good call as the more people here from Kamala the less they like her
I disagree, some other TH-camr show mentioned the important things on those podcasts (Rogan, Theo Von ...) is AUTHENTICITY. Kamala comes off as a career opportunistic politician, I doubt she can sit and chill and truly be herself for 3 hours. If she came off awkward for 2-3 hours it would no way have helped her.
I do think she and TW should have gone on, but that said I don't think it would have helped at all. I dip in and out of watching Rogan and Theo. (white suburban mom here who loves KH but listens to a lot of pods you might not think I'd listen to) But I don't think their main audience would have been moved to run out and vote for her.
@@lisaz943 I agree that it may not have helped, although much of the criticism against her was that she was only prepared to do soft-ball interviews. Joe (and Lex) are about as easy as you get and she wasn't prepared to take the risk. That signalled that she wasn't even prepared to meet their audiences, which made her look either weak or rude. She didn't have to shine, she just needed to show up. The thing people really wanted to see was whether she could hold a 2-3 hour conversation without handlers & a teleprompter. This is going to be a major factor for future elections. Future candidates best be prepared because mainstream media alone can't save them anymore.
@@ChimpuruBlast Scott was implying that wasn't offered access to the Bro-Pods and was stuck with Call me Daddy, on condition they build a fake studio set to manage the environment. And Rogan did the right thing, refusing to cut the conversation to 1 hour on her turf. Inauthentic all the way...
I agree, the word salad would have been the same (perhaps longer) but not showing up was even worse. Trump showed up everywhere, Harris needed to be within bluetooth range of her handlers.
Matt Gaetz is not the craziest pick out of all the cabinet choices. Health and Education is the backbone of progress. RFK and McMahon are death knell for helping children get out of loneliness and hatred spiral.
This is such a simple solution. This is fundamentally a brand issue.
To me, that’s not a pleasant thing to admit about our politics as it’s so reductive, but in addition to having a first class character, Trump’s specialty was branding. Polishing the turd.
'Politician' is a poisonous brand right now. You win by being anything other than a politician right now. That could change - if Trump bungles things badly this time around, there may be a swing to *only* politicians - but at least at the moment, if people catch a whiff of politician, you're toast.
@@bobhoyng5915 Fair enough. His 2nd key to winning was by 'disrupting' or pretending to be a disruptor of Govt. What's sad to me though is that he is, and always has been, only a performer. So its surprising to me (or maybe not), that you and so many include ' this time around'. Sorry but that sounds like the battered gf who says: This time he promised..... Its a funny/sad thing.
Pretending to be a disruptor? 😅 government is reshaping right before your eyes. Definitely not fake. You’re through.
@@chexcollects Is it. Can you point to 3 things as to how it is? But actually, be exact. And if that's the case and you like it, give Biden props, cause he's the one in office. But this tells me you're a culty.
As an ex leftist, watching the left wing media after the election has been interesting and without doubt the one person who understands why working class people have left them, was Ezra Klein.
If you and the DNC talked to focus groups and knew what their issues were then why the hell didn’t the Harris campaign mention these issues!?!! Why wait will end of election to mention it?!
Yt woman jen ran a stupid campaign.
18:24 OH GOD! DO NOT KEEP LIZ CHENEY IN THE COALITION
I still don't get all the handwringing about "Democrats always push identity politics",. I can't remember a single time I felt like a Democrat was "pushing identity politics" on me in any overt way. I just always felt like Democrats were for a Democracy that respects and supports "plurality" (a diverse populace). The country over the past 100 years, has always benefited from diversity and immigrants and individuality. I'd hate to see Democrats shirk back from that. It's a central vein of what America is. I don't want to see us become a "white christian nation" (excluding everyone else). I want to see us become a vibrant, diverse nation that is strong because of celebrating (and supporting) everyone's individuality.
I honestly thought this as well...until I started looking for it. The entire Seth Moulton situation is a microcosm of what's wrong with the party right now. Purity testing people in your own party and pushing extreme edge cases as the party line.
@ Thats a great example. I’ve never heard the name “Seth Moulton”, I’d have to go Google that to even know what you’re even referring to.
@@bobhoyng5915 The Seth Moulton situation is that the dude who tried to run for president and nobody remembered his name, the only thing he's doing is trying to make a name for himself by being a piece of shit publicly. Dude sucks, end of story.
@@scruffopone3989 Ok, but even if you believe that, he's still predominantly on the right side of most issues. Let's not trash people that are, for the most part, on our side. That's what I'm illustrating here. It's a horrible habit on the left right now to tear down anyone that doesn't completely agree with every single progressive policy.
To be clear, I don't feel he's being a piece of shit, but that doesn't matter. That's a matter of opinion. The point isn't whether he's right or wrong, earnest or opportunist. It's that we need to stop the friendly fire if we want people to be able to run successful campaigns outside of the most liberal districts. If you purity test every politician, then you can only win in heavily blue districts. And in addition, you'll never have Democrats like Joe Manchin. Not saying Manchin is great, or even good, but he's a hell of a lot better than the Republican that will end up replacing him. We need the Joe Manchin's to stave off the worse options, and to have those Joe Manchin's, we need to give Democrats the space to move right without getting killed politically by their own.
@@bobhoyng5915 I challenge you to come up with policy positions that Seth has organically that he is known for. Because that list is probably filled with one or two items at most. The man's rep within the party was neutral to nothing before but now his rep is "that dickhead that threw people under the bus to boost his own profile".
And frankly the difference between a Manchin and a Republican is one will never vote for a child tax credit. And the other will kill it.
Democrats need to speak to the working class. Forget white collar. We know how they vote.
As long as the working class has security and is valued, you'll get their vote.
I agree with what you say. But please remember. White collar workers are also working class.
Go beyond speaking & step up to the plate for working class.
@사이프레스-y5c you have a point. Middle class typically refers to all stripes across an income field.
Working class, in this context, is manual labor. I consider myself a white middle-class person. Either way, the ones that turn the gears need respect and protection.
Except that works against the elite progressive class that Scott and Jessica are in.
@jsnx9067 which is literally why democrats need to learn cultural humility
again, not even a peep about the income inequality that's the root cause of the discontent. 2/3rd of america hasn't seen a real wage increase since 1979. Promote a 21st century New Deal focused on FDR's new bill of rights. Address the obscene disparity ceo to line worker. It's not that hard. bernie's been trying to get you to listen for decades.
The fact that these people get paid whatever they do for being so full of shit, is proof that this world is so inherently fucked up, it's beyond saving. Imagine how large these peoples' bank accounts are, for just spouting shit off the top of their heads into a camera. Injustice incarnate.
I unsubscribed from PSA channels because they're so out of touch. The level of disdain he spoke about Hasan and the left "streamers" is primarily why.
He interviewed Hasan twice in the last year or two and the conversations were insightful
Hassan is a grifter.
Get a charismatic candidate who offers to help every American economically? Republican-light strategy is a disaster.
Finding a candidate like that who actually knows how to get legislation done is very, very hard. Americans always vote for the cool kid over the smart kid. That’s a problem.
Thx!
Oh wow 3 liberals, totally not an echo chamber!
Isnt that just like every conservative media outlet? Stop it...
Three liberals talking about their own party...so?
@@bensimpson9175 Right... this guy is acting like Republicans are entitled to be invited to a discussions of democrats self-reflecting about their own party
@@valetudo1569
Yeah, it’s called a circle jerk
They are NOT JFK LIBERALS, I am not sure what these 3 are.
Black voters were not demanding anything! That was a tiny segment that demanded that.
Jessica, are you implying Michael Bloombergs ban on large drinks was a bad thing?
Trying to micro manage the lives of adult people is the problem. Including prescribed speech.
The resistance is gone because these three have been increasingly the archetypes of the Democratic party (center left con men who would rather pivot to the fascists they claim to hate rather than talk about real policy that helps everyday Americans sooner rather than later). The resistance movement is against the two party oligarchy that works for the capitalist system Galloway benefits from. The Democratic party needs less Bill Mahers representing them. It's worth noting that the people saying identity politics doesn't work were the first to create and join the White Men for Harris Zoom call.
I’m a predominantly right leaning voter. Figured I’d stop by to hear what was hopefully well thought out left wing critiques of their party. Instead we hear about how they are highly educated voters and the people who vote for Trump aren’t smart enough to vote for their candidate. Keep doubling down on that and see where it gets you.
Scott, I hate to break it to ya, but America’s decline started in the ‘70s & ‘80s. The decline started to pick up steam in the ‘90s. The parents of the some of the kids entering the workforce were already having to rely more on perfect decision making & good luck to keep their heads above water.
See, Scott thinking Rogan is red & not purple is the problem. I’ll never forget during The Spotify Cancellation of two years ago he & Kara pretty badly & clumsily mischaracterized him. For someone “obsessed” with young men & their problems, his ignorance of Rogan is baffling.
this is one thing that really gets me. Not putting Harris on Rogan was political malpractice of the highest order. It's 70 million ratings for something like that.
you can't endorse Trump and claim to be purple. No way in hell. He literally wants to turn the USA into an oligarchy.
This is the guy that was saying Biden was sharp as a tack 5 months ago! These people have no credibility
this was also one of the guys who led the charge to get Biden out.
He didn't say 5 months ago. He said the last time he saw Biden, he was sharp.
Absolutely right
In comparison to Trump a potted plant is mentally sharp...even if he was literally in a memory care center Biden would have still been a reasonable choice versus Trump.
@@Cameronbic 1986?
I don’t think dems get it. Get off your high horse first
@17:19 The answer regarding trans athletes in sports is simple. Ban gender divisions in sports and require skill divisions. It is just that easy to eliminate this as an issue and make sports more enjoyable for all.
That's a good example of an insane proposal to appear "inclusive" to 0.05% of the population. Not simple at all, not workable and not necessary if people are willing to tell the truth that male and female are properties of nature and not ideas in people's head.
The condescending tone when talking about "dudes" and "finally, it's bros time" at 24:11 it's just not going to cut it. I don't think that any man that moved right that has supported women's rights or still supports it does it with tghe mentality that is being pushed forward of "future is female", or this is women's time at the sun, while we roll over to the side. It's either not a zero sum view of the issue, or even when it is it's more of "we can scotch over a little bit, and this seat can fit us both equally uncomfortably". All this condescension and that you have to preface every discussion about men recognizing that women have issues too makes it seems like the person not only believes it's zero sum, but that men should just accept being treated as the problem kid, take the loss and just roll over to the side. This is NOT going to be productive, nobody is going to take that standing.
coming from the Pod Save America guy, a podcast with 4 rich white bros, lol.
I feel one problem, spoken by Jess Tarlov, was when she said "I am hopeful this is part, with this rebrand going forward."
When cannot be successful with just a rebrand. We need REFORM.
Being the party of Woke did not serve us well.
When you don't have an economy that young can say is getting better for them, then they don't have the luxury of concentrating on LGBTQ rights or Russia invading Ukraine or climate change. Arts and culture thrived in Europe during colonialism because of a strong economy. As our economy gets worse, we will go back to our basic human nature which is survival.
I get all the affordability stuff but what do they think Trump is going to do about this? He does not care at all?
I think there were three major issues, in my opinion, in this election for Dems:
1- the educational divide is very, very real and it cuts across race. The educational divide is about class. Higher educated people mostly voted Harris, lower educated mostly voted Trump.
2- we have a major problem with a growing voter base that will vote on emotion and not valid information. They are also influenced by alternative forms of media that are by and large biased and unvetted. Uninformed voters are an issue.
2- Harris had an uphill battle distancing herself from Biden and Biden wasn’t popular. Ultimately, she never painted herself to those swing voters as a change from him.
People are hurting cant retire cant buy a house
BRILLIANT! Thanks all y'all!
Yes.
Get government back in the business of governing -- infrastructure, clean food, clean water.
We'll work out the culture war stuff out here in our real life villages.
I think to get the uninformed voters, you have to put someone in play not based on experience, but instead based on name recognition. You have to play The Rock against a Trump card.
And most importantly, they have to talk like a normal person, not a politician.
Uninformed would be the audience that believes boys are girls, the border is fine, crime is down, use pretend pronouns, or that believed Joe was “sharp as a tack”?
Exactly what are you going to share with your version of the uninformed voter?
Your uninformed voters saw a soft coup against Joe from the party “saving” Democracy. Enlighten the uninformed, please.
Were those white women you label uninformed? Or do they prioritize their kids safety over “abortion as contraception”? If you spent less time talking down to people and more time listening you may learn a bit more than you think you know.
15:40 Nancy Mace is from South Carolina not NC she was born in North Carolina
7:04
Did he even use the word “men” in his answer? Maybe I’m crazy
At no point in this podcast does he talk about men in fact, now that I’ve listened to the whole thing. What a YUUUUUUGE blind spot. He was asked about 6 questions about men and dodged it every time.
Podcasts are the new talk radio. Good luck
I disagree with 19:54 that the ad would've been effective without the gender affirming care piece. I think most people would be OK if a prisoner was dying and they received healthcare. I think the issue is people assume getting puberty blockers or estrogen/testosterone injections to be a luxury similar to like lasik surgery or TRT treatment men get sometimes. It's the perceived luxury of the treatment in that they could easily survive without it that made it bad.
How can a party choose Kamala Harris as the candidate and not understand how it lost with all this college educated titles 😅 red for rhe next 20 years
I’ve listened to twenty pundits and have heard twenty different reasons. Why don’t we just wait a couple years and see where the population is then.
Everyone is just jumping at the opportunity to confirm their prior beliefs. 250,000 votes in a different direction in three states and this conversation is so different
More "Raging Sour Grapes"- Jon hit it on the head when he said dems are for special people not for you.
you can always count on a guy who holds up fish in a pic to totally get sh*t wrong.
Two questions I have:
1) What happened to the older swing state GOP and independent voter who was disgusted with Trump…especially after January 6, 2020, who might vote for a Democratic candidate who ran a campaign that stressed centrist positions and “not being crazy”? Were they just a mirage?
2) I saw a lot of Trump signs outside big houses in rural areas, on expensive new pickup trucks, and at boat marinas. Not exactly “starving masses”. Was the image of the “starving” Trump voter true?
3) As hokey as it might sound, I actually think the Democratic Party messaging needs an infusion of “prosperity gospel” and “small business chamber of commerce boosterism”. I suspect that many minority men voted for Trump and thought he “got them” because although they may have been “working poor” they are, in fact, hustling hard to get ahead and can somehow relate to a faux-billionaire who is constantly complaining about “getting the government off his back”.
I love it. Prof G & Pod Save America together. Thank you!
Speaking for the people of North Carolina, please know that Nancy Mace is from SOUTH Carolina. We do not claim her. They can have her.
Why does Mace standing up to men in women's bathrooms so upsetting to you?
Incredibly good looking. One of the most misogynistic tells Prof. Scott says to close it out. Watch Jessica Tarlov's facial expressions.
interesting conversation
Day 57: Please bring on Gary Stevenson (Garys Economics)! Thanks!
The phones are the problem. Not just a problem with youth, probable at every age.
What’s the difference between “doing much worse than your parents”…and…”having parents who did really well”?
The reason I ask is that I am 70 and live in what I’ll just call the “upper middle class” and while I did better than my parents, in my wife’s family, most are “comfortable” but only on person has done better than her great grandparents who actually were quite wealthy in the 20s, 30s and 40s. Sometimes the wealthy parent simply helps children have reasonably comfortable middle-class lives. Sometimes it’s “poverty to wealth and then back to poverty in 2 generations.
My point is that it’s “relative” betterment.
You can't be the ONE and ONLY Jon Favreau, if you are the second most famous Jon Favreau,
people are horrible and society is f'd
I good job is dignity, self-respect and opportunity. Then throw in online outrage. It creates a ripe environment for scapegoating and demagoguery.
I’d like to ask Democrats do they think mothers - white women (which they demonized) care more about abortion or protecting their kids??????
14:30 Two Words... Bernie Sanders.
20:05 - 22:07 Spot on.
I'm going to guess none of these people have ever talked to a guy working at the Deere plant outside Davenport Iowa, yet they are surprised they can't connect with them
Nobody talked to me when I mowed lawns, worked the kitchen at Roy Roger's, pressed plastic containers on 12 hour shifts for 7.50 an hour, was a security guard or packed 14000 Kriss Kross cds at the Sony factory. Why does everyone think they deserve a profile piece because of where they work?
The cold reality is.... People don't seem to really like these liberals, including a growing number of long time democrat voters. It seems they only care about college educated women, black women, Hollywood/pop celebrities. People don't like trump.. but they don't like these kinda people either and are tired of being talked down to. "We may agree with some of your ideas... But we don't want you or the people around you to lead us"
They just can't fathom that.
Im so tired of hearing these "talk to the guy who lives in a town of 1000 people, but don't talk to anyone in the 5,000,000 person city"
@@arthurswanson3285 Okay so your point didn't make any sense. You honestly don't get what he just said?
@MichaelBrashier I live in the sf bay area... About 8 million people. You'd think we're only tech workers and activists based on the media. Never mind most people aren't rich, are mostly moderate to center left. National Dems only visit us/the area to get $$$ from the ultra rich. You could see how resentment builds up over decades. But hey... Rich people on tv and celebrity say that we're all "fine" and need to vote for their candidate. Many if us have voted democrat for decades.. we hate trump.. but now we don't like liberals either 🤷♂️