@@AndrewNewton which liions is this with. I have picked up a couple of 3500mah 20700. There good for 30A though which is way overkill for this app. Weight is 25g light than 3s 18650. That 20g could easily add a reasonable amount of current draw to the 3s saving. Might just have to try both haha
Nice one Andrew. I recall you did a similar thing with the Ranger 1600. You have done another great job of going through all the small things that will trip up us less experienced pilots. Great stuff !!
Thanks Andrew for the series of the ZOHD drift and Kopilot videos, very helpful and enjoyable, see if can set it up correctly, just waiting for Santa to deliver it via Aus post. Merry Christmas. Cheers Jason.
wow, very low amp draw, you bet on a calm day it will cruise about on 1amp, i think i may just have to get one of these.......at some point and Andrew, thanks for all your great video content
Got to be near 30 min flight time on a 1300mah cruising. Add some thermals and you're laughing. Nice and agile too, if your other review is anything to go by. Perfect info for the foam nerds. Thx, Andrew.
@@Shreyam_io 2s2p 18650 liion would be max 7000mah capacity. Highest capacity cells are around 3400-3500mah. Two series two parallel - doubles voltage and doubles capacity once. 7.2v nominal and 7000mah capacity. Probably too heavy for this plane though.
Andrew: What is the advantage to turning on the motor brake at different settings in this model? Thanks for the list of weights with different batteries at the end! Hope your search for a new home is going well. Can't wait for your new videos to resume. Cheers! - Jim
@@AndrewNewton hi Andy, my kopilot is already installed and I can't seem to suss out how to do the esc brake whilst the kopilot is there. I assume I need the sbus disconnected and the throttle lead connected to the rx instead?
Hi Andrew, do you think this plane will have wing flutter like the ZOHD nano talon did? The full wing dihedral was the cause previously, I hope it isn't the case with this plane.
Dear Andrew, could you recommend Servos ? Think these 2 different sizes in use? and Motor for people that order a KIT Version - want to go to f411 wse. Thanks
Sorry for posting on an order video, what rx have you got installed to communicate with the esc in order to calibrate? I plan on using crossfire in mine but I have an frsky xm kicking around. Could I justbuse that to quickly do this calibration before installing crossfire and matek with inav?
How many times have been surprised by heat shrink I ordered! I think it's circular diameter not pressed flat width but not sure which one you need for 18650s sorry
In the beginning you mentioned to put it in programming mode. How do you do that? Did not see it in the manual. I’ve tried calibrating in manual mode but don’t get the it is beeps.
it also won't go into programming mode. When I turn on the battery, the thing just starts beeping slowly for GPS then proceeds to beep very fast. The manual says "The throttle range is not calibrated, please switch to manual mode, process the throttle range calibration according to the ESC manual. " but I don't think I can even talk to my flight controller.
@@AndrewNewton With the drift i managed to fly my very first time After destroying a dart 635 and the esky1100. I also have a skysurfer But it won‘t fly so well. I think the Motor is to small with 2450kv and 5x5prop. What you think.?installing an 1400kv and 7x4 Ore bying bixler2 or Ranger 1600?
Anybody care to do a video of the full set up of this (or the Dart 250g since they seem to use similar drive components) including a calibration of the ESC with Kopilot in line? I believe someone quoted that the ESC should be calibrated after installing the Kopilot. Can anyone contradict this? The ZOHD site gives a written explanation of the above procedure with a bare ESC as here and it is helpful to hear those written diddly-ping-pings in reality. However there is no mention or video of the complete process with the Kopilot.
@@AndrewNewton Thanks, Andrew. And yep, I finally got the G2 rolling after replacing the stock ESC with a Turnigy Plush as you did. Wouldn't work without it.
@@kazarbizar7892 Olivier_C (not Oliver-c) does some really great videos but with iNav usually. Don't know if he's ever done one showing full stock Kopilot set-up as requested. Plenty of others (even the official ZOHD stuff) but not yet found 1 showing ESC calibration with Kopilot installed. If you know of 1 a link would be appreciated.
Just recorded a video on the complete Kopilot setup yesterday, will upload when my 2nd (oh yes) Drift arrives. Basically the same ESC calibration as normal, throttle high, connect battery, wait for the double beep then throttle low, but there are many single beeps before the double beep, have to be in Manual mode.
@@AndrewNewton ah ok. Is it possible to reverse the prop at full speed via a switch, my thinking is reverse thrust breaking for landing in tight spaces or if your about to accidently over shoot the landing area?
I would love to see some empirical data on this drag issue. I would think there would be circumstances where a free-wheeling prop would cause increased drag but I also strongly suspect there would be certain dynamic conditions where it would produce less drag. Any University students studying engineering want to have a crack? 😀
Thanks for doing the brake. I will put a small folding prop on mine too. Also a streamlined nosecone for when not fpv ing.
chrisj800 I also want to put a folding prop on. If you find anything good, please let us know.
Yes let us know if you find a good little folding prop. It is a 5mm threaded prop shaft
would love to see a real-life endurance test on the li-ion pack
At least 72 min by my calculations but I'll do a proper flight test
@@AndrewNewton which liions is this with.
I have picked up a couple of 3500mah 20700. There good for 30A though which is way overkill for this app.
Weight is 25g light than 3s 18650. That 20g could easily add a reasonable amount of current draw to the 3s saving.
Might just have to try both haha
Nice one Andrew. I recall you did a similar thing with the Ranger 1600. You have done another great job of going through all the small things that will trip up us less experienced pilots. Great stuff !!
Thanks Pat, I did get lots of questions about this stuff
Thanks Andrew for the series of the ZOHD drift and Kopilot videos, very helpful and enjoyable, see if can set it up correctly, just waiting for Santa to deliver it via Aus post. Merry Christmas.
Cheers Jason.
And to you, great present
Great information, thanks Andrew. I’m about to order one shortly and see how she handles the Irish weather/winds..
Someone in the fb inav group mentioned flying in 15mph winds with good results.
Very low drag so it will handle wind OK
Used this video more than once. Thank you
Glad it's still useful
G'day Andrew, I always wondered how to setup the ESC break. Thanks for explaining ! Clear and concise; as always 👍
No problem 👍
Thank you Andrew, very helpful
Thanks for nice explanation 👍
wow, very low amp draw, you bet on a calm day it will cruise about on 1amp, i think i may just have to get one of these.......at some point and Andrew, thanks for all your great video content
Thanks for this video!! Exactly what I was looking for.
Excellent. Play those beeps man
Very good info....
Got to be near 30 min flight time on a 1300mah cruising. Add some thermals and you're laughing. Nice and agile too, if your other review is anything to go by.
Perfect info for the foam nerds. Thx, Andrew.
Yep 30 min easily on 2A continuous
@@Shreyam_io 2s2p 18650 liion would be max 7000mah capacity. Highest capacity cells are around 3400-3500mah. Two series two parallel - doubles voltage and doubles capacity once. 7.2v nominal and 7000mah capacity. Probably too heavy for this plane though.
Andrew:
What is the advantage to turning on the motor brake at different settings in this model?
Thanks for the list of weights with different batteries at the end!
Hope your search for a new home is going well. Can't wait for your new videos to resume.
Cheers! - Jim
Good question Jim. I only ever use the full hard brake.
Please tell me you're doing folding prop next :)
Not me, but others are looking for a good folder
Thanks Andrew. I’m looking into folding prop options. Is the motor shaft 5mm? Cheers.
Yes 5mm threaded prop shaft
With the kopilot installed do you need to do the esc brake setting before connecting the Kopilot?
That's the easiest way. Some escs dont like the longer start up caused by Kopilot.
@@AndrewNewton hi Andy, my kopilot is already installed and I can't seem to suss out how to do the esc brake whilst the kopilot is there. I assume I need the sbus disconnected and the throttle lead connected to the rx instead?
Hi Andrew, do you think this plane will have wing flutter like the ZOHD nano talon did? The full wing dihedral was the cause previously, I hope it isn't the case with this plane.
Flutter or wobble? No this plane is low drag and flies properly. Not like the little piglet Nano Talon
@@AndrewNewton That's great to hear, and thanks for the reply.
I betcha can’t remember where ya got that screwdriver Andrew. 😁
Ha, just about every model comes with one
Dear Andrew, could you recommend Servos ? Think these 2 different sizes in use? and Motor for people that order a KIT Version - want to go to f411 wse. Thanks
I would look at the recommended sizes and find something similar. I don't have any specific suggestions.
Sorry for posting on an order video, what rx have you got installed to communicate with the esc in order to calibrate?
I plan on using crossfire in mine but I have an frsky xm kicking around.
Could I justbuse that to quickly do this calibration before installing crossfire and matek with inav?
I'm using an RX6R. Might need to redo the calibration when you're connected to the Matek.
@@AndrewNewton Ah ok. So I might as well just wire the matek and crossfire then and just calibrate the once. Thanks for the response.
Is there a manual somewhere to change some settings in the esc like low voltage cutoff and soft cutoff or hard cutoff
Did I forget to include that link in the description?
@@AndrewNewton i just saw it, i must have glanced by it and didnt notice it! I already found all the manuals on their website, thanks though!
Can you tell me what size heat shrink I need to join 2 18650 batteries. I don't really know how heat shrink is measured.
Thanks.
How many times have been surprised by heat shrink I ordered! I think it's circular diameter not pressed flat width but not sure which one you need for 18650s sorry
@@AndrewNewton Thanks for the speedy reply, I'll just have to guess and hope.
When doing this do I need to unplug kopilot I followed exactly but it wont go into programming mode or make any other beeps other than from the gps
You have missed something. Just have to start again and find what you have done differently
How could I get this done if already connected to FC matek f405?
Ask on the INAV fixed wing Facebook group
In the beginning you mentioned to put it in programming mode. How do you do that? Did not see it in the manual. I’ve tried calibrating in manual mode but don’t get the it is beeps.
Watch the video again, the very first thing I say
Got it, the throttle up is the programming mode. Thank you sir
How can I calculate my Drift flight time fitted with 1 cell li-ion cell and reset cut off ESC voltage Thank you aged 82
Yes - newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2020/06/calculate-maximum-flight-time.html
Stupid question, but what's the point of ESC brake on a little plane like this?
Less drag for slope soaring when the prop is not freewheeling
my receiver is connected but when I try to even change the modes, the lights on the zohd don't change. Do you know a solution to this? Thanks
it also won't go into programming mode. When I turn on the battery, the thing just starts beeping slowly for GPS then proceeds to beep very fast. The manual says "The throttle range is not calibrated, please switch to manual mode, process the throttle range calibration according to the ESC manual. " but I don't think I can even talk to my flight controller.
If you cant change modes then either the receiver is not actually bound or connected correctly to the Kopilot, or you haven't setup the mode switch.
Hello
Someone an idea to repare an broken Carbon Tube of the tail?
Epoxy resin and carbon tow or fibreglass
@@AndrewNewton
Thank you
Bixler 2 and Ranger 1600 are available on hobbyking for Amazing prices of round 85€ and free shipping in europe.
@@AndrewNewton
With the drift i managed to fly my very first time After destroying a dart 635 and the esky1100.
I also have a skysurfer But it won‘t fly so well. I think the Motor is to small with 2450kv and 5x5prop.
What you think.?installing an 1400kv and 7x4 Ore bying bixler2 or Ranger 1600?
2450kv and 5x5 prop should work well. Is the prop on the right way? Skysurfer and Bixler 2 are very similar. Keep learning with the Sky surfer
Anybody care to do a video of the full set up of this (or the Dart 250g since they seem to use similar drive components) including a calibration of the ESC with Kopilot in line? I believe someone quoted that the ESC should be calibrated after installing the Kopilot. Can anyone contradict this? The ZOHD site gives a written explanation of the above procedure with a bare ESC as here and it is helpful to hear those written diddly-ping-pings in reality. However there is no mention or video of the complete process with the Kopilot.
There are quite a few build vids of the dart 250g. If you're not bothered about weight, Oliver c, is good.
I will do a detailed Kopilot and VC400 setup on this eventually. Have done one on the Ranger G2 previously
@@AndrewNewton Thanks, Andrew. And yep, I finally got the G2 rolling after replacing the stock ESC with a Turnigy Plush as you did. Wouldn't work without it.
@@kazarbizar7892 Olivier_C (not Oliver-c) does some really great videos but with iNav usually. Don't know if he's ever done one showing full stock Kopilot set-up as requested. Plenty of others (even the official ZOHD stuff) but not yet found 1 showing ESC calibration with Kopilot installed. If you know of 1 a link would be appreciated.
Just recorded a video on the complete Kopilot setup yesterday, will upload when my 2nd (oh yes) Drift arrives. Basically the same ESC calibration as normal, throttle high, connect battery, wait for the double beep then throttle low, but there are many single beeps before the double beep, have to be in Manual mode.
I am betting there will be a rudder version of this really soon and they can ditch the auto pilot..
Rudder, cut the motor off, go sloping. Maybe the on my second one
What are the benefits of prop breaking
Breaking or braking? Stopped prop = less drag
@@AndrewNewton ah ok. Is it possible to reverse the prop at full speed via a switch, my thinking is reverse thrust breaking for landing in tight spaces or if your about to accidently over shoot the landing area?
Since it’s not a folding prop, why use BRAKE?
A stationary prop creates less drag than a windmilling one in most cases.
As Paul said, less drag and better for video
I would love to see some empirical data on this drag issue. I would think there would be circumstances where a free-wheeling prop would cause increased drag but I also strongly suspect there would be certain dynamic conditions where it would produce less drag. Any University students studying engineering want to have a crack? 😀
Simon of Oz 🤦♂️
D.B. Cooper I’m sorry you’re offended by my desire for science and hard data. Happy flying.