Why are players booked for taking off their shirts?

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    Scoring a goal is the apex of football. Described by many professional players as the best feeling ever. So scoring a goal should be rightly celebrated. And the more important the goal, the bigger the celebration.
    Why do referees want to spoil that moment? Why are players booked for certain celebrations? Why are players booked for taking off their shirts in celebration?
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  • @tobbogun9420
    @tobbogun9420 ปีที่แล้ว +4509

    Tifo always answer questions you always had but didn’t care enough to ask or look up. They the real mvps

    • @thierryhenry9474
      @thierryhenry9474 ปีที่แล้ว +15

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    • @bozitrapboy
      @bozitrapboy ปีที่แล้ว +8

      facts 😂

    • @phoenix-king779
      @phoenix-king779 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I swear 😂. I found them because I wanted to know why teams switch sides after half time

    • @ChrisMDi
      @ChrisMDi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@phoenix-king779 do they already have a video on it or am i still lacking their video views

    • @Toronteaux
      @Toronteaux ปีที่แล้ว +1

      big facts

  • @Gubs2
    @Gubs2 ปีที่แล้ว +2328

    If I was a player who scored an important game winning goal, I’d break every rule in the book while celebrating

    • @stewie4467
      @stewie4467 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      and you'd get booked, simple as that

    • @RedRaptor7
      @RedRaptor7 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      Aguero who scored the winner and won the title for Man City in 2012 took his shirt off and was ultimately booked after just winning the league.

    • @billfarley9015
      @billfarley9015 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why?

    • @clarenceonyekwere5428
      @clarenceonyekwere5428 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      It depends. If you score a key goal in a semi-final and are already on a yellow card, you’d know not to do such

    • @wthwasthat8884
      @wthwasthat8884 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@stewie4467 thanks for stating the obvious

  • @akulmalhotra5305
    @akulmalhotra5305 ปีที่แล้ว +1498

    The best one was in the World Cup, when taking off the shirt got Vincent Aboubakar a red card xD

    • @cabra500
      @cabra500 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      I’m Brazilian and even I admit that this was an epic move by aboubakar

    • @rahmatramadhan9874
      @rahmatramadhan9874 ปีที่แล้ว +295

      Takes shirt off, celebrates, shakes the ref's then walks off the field. Epic.

    • @shivanshsaini1
      @shivanshsaini1 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      the ref was also like, " I admit this is epic af but sorry for the yellow card."

    • @NitinGupta-qm6hj
      @NitinGupta-qm6hj ปีที่แล้ว +74

      They were the first African nation to beat Brazil in world cup.
      This year has lot of twist Japan winning against Germany, Korea winning against Portugal, SA winning Argentina.
      This underdogs performed really well,
      Happy to see this year world cup.
      🔥

    • @BajaToxic
      @BajaToxic ปีที่แล้ว +7

      and then get fired by Ronaldo 😥

  • @clutchcobra2729
    @clutchcobra2729 ปีที่แล้ว +1487

    I’m not a Man City fan, but the Balotelli “Why Always Me?” And the last minute “Aguerrooooooo” goal to win the prem shirt off celebrations are some of my favourite sporting moments ever.

    • @arunashamal
      @arunashamal ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Brandi Chastain's winning penalty is the ultimate shirt off moment in history of football

    • @mmw4990
      @mmw4990 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Aguero actually should have been sent off for that as he was already and a yellow but the ref decided not to and got fined

    • @chadultrapromax1735
      @chadultrapromax1735 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Messi's el Classico winner in stoppage time while being bullied throughout the match by RMA defenders is also up there.

    • @chinortega3
      @chinortega3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Iconic shirt off moments lol

    • @johnnyvisera3939
      @johnnyvisera3939 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Good call, Aguerooooo was an excellent shirt off moment.

  • @TheFMVids
    @TheFMVids ปีที่แล้ว +2591

    None of those seem like good enough reasons and seem petty. I guess the one that might hold most water is the one about them not being able to put the shirt back on time to continue play. But then you just make them leave the pitch and let them return once they've sorted out their equipment. Seems simple enough and I doubt "putting your shirt back on" is that complicated of a problem to consistently cause problems.

    • @amazingkook143
      @amazingkook143 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      These aren't "football" jerseys that are also worn with tight fighter pads and arm sleeves. If you can't put a T-Shirt back on after taking it off, you have too tight a shirt my guy.

    • @jonathan13co
      @jonathan13co ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Players often throw their shirts to the fans. What then? Pretty sure that's what is mostly implied. not physically taking the time to put it back on.

    • @amazingkook143
      @amazingkook143 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@jonathan13co I'm ok with giving a book if you throw it into the stands. You've taken a celebration your doing on the field to one taking off the field. Also, it might happen where a fan keeps the jersey and the game is delayed.

    • @les_crow
      @les_crow ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm not sure anything will be good enough for you.

    • @gordon1545
      @gordon1545 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      I begrudgingly accept the point about sponsors, but maybe the sanction should be a fine rather than a booking. The player taking their top off is usually paid a lot of money by the company with their logo on that shirt, and they're paying to have it in pictures and footage of goals, so that's fair enough. But it's nothing to do with the game, it's purely a financial thing and yellow cards are sporting sanctions.

  • @snekarmy6198
    @snekarmy6198 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    I remember a couple of years ago when the Chapecoense-disaster had just happened, Brazilian Vitesse-player (Dutch Eredivisie) Nathan had taken his shirt off revealing a Chapecoense-shirt with the text Forza Chape. He knew a couple of the players that died and the ref decided not to book Nathan! Truly a heartwarming moment

    • @marco3391
      @marco3391 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A couple of years ago? I swear that happened in like 2016

    • @connoryoung8951
      @connoryoung8951 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That’s neglecting rules due to emotional reasons- he should have still been booked

    • @memetown4369
      @memetown4369 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@connoryoung8951 you must be fun

    • @snekarmy6198
      @snekarmy6198 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@marco3391 Yea a couple of years, it isn't decades ago or anything

    • @snekarmy6198
      @snekarmy6198 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@connoryoung8951 Referees can still show their human side. I am sure if Nathan was booked he would have gladly accepted the yellow card. Of course there are rules for a reason, but this is larger than that yellow card

  • @hb3393
    @hb3393 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    I personally think the naughtiness of doing it now with the threat of a card actually makes it more impactful than before, kinda like a tactical foul but more fun

  • @tgmartin
    @tgmartin ปีที่แล้ว +649

    None of these rules justify it being a yellow card offence. Imagine introducing yourself at social gatherings as being one of the petty little killjoys who introduced this rule. People aren't going to forget a sponsor just because a player took their shirt off for 20 seconds and if Forlan failed at such a simple task as putting his shirt back on (something that most 6-year-olds are more or less capable of doing) then that's on him.

    • @ianmacfarlane1241
      @ianmacfarlane1241 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      👆this

    • @nabell2032
      @nabell2032 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      fr who tf care bout those sponsors😂

    • @zacweston-edwards8849
      @zacweston-edwards8849 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Tbf it’s not about forgetting the sponsors, it’s more about the fact that players celebrating are popular photographical moments and the sponsors want to be visible on these photos

    • @1queijocas
      @1queijocas ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@nabell2032 FIFA, they are the ones writing the rules

    • @notsaying7018
      @notsaying7018 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nabell2032 they do pay

  • @d13g0922
    @d13g0922 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    In 2010 Chile and Real Zaragoza's striker, Humberto Suazo, scored twice and in both times lifted his shirt to show a message of support to Chile after an 8.8 earthquake and the referee didn't booked him

    • @falsemcnuggethope
      @falsemcnuggethope ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He wasn't booked because he didn't break the rule. He neither took the shirt off nor covered his face with it.

  • @saoirsedeltufo7436
    @saoirsedeltufo7436 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Arkadiusz Milik getting a second yellow after scoring the 'winning' goal for Juventus (which was then disallowed by VAR, but his red still stood) is my second favourite stupid celebration moment after in the 2014 rugby English Premiership final, Owen Farrell scored a try to bring his side level (with the chance to go ahead), kicked the ball away in celebration and did his hammie, needing to be substituted. The try was disallowed, and he watched on from the bench as his side lost in extra time...

    • @aldobonaso3481
      @aldobonaso3481 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      haha it was a disaster, but you failed to mention that Milik's goal being disallowed by the VAR was a massive blunder, as there was a player by the corner flag clearly playing everybody onside, thus Milik's goal should have stood. But that camera angle was apparently not available to the VAR team, and so the goal was incorrectly disallowed, and Milik's red card for removing his shirt in celebration stood. Double whammy.

    • @saoirsedeltufo7436
      @saoirsedeltufo7436 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aldobonaso3481 Oh I didn't realise that! That's incredibly tough luck for him then

    • @aldobonaso3481
      @aldobonaso3481 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@saoirsedeltufo7436 haha yes it must have been really hard for him to accept 🤣 I imagine he was sitting at home the next week, thinking to himself, I scored a perfectly legitimate winning goal in the last second of a crazy match...and here I am with no goal and a suspension 😅

    • @JimTheFly
      @JimTheFly ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is no better "stupid celebration" than Bill Grammatica in the NFL, who kicked a first-quarter field goal, jumped up in celebration... and immediately tore his ACL upon landing.

    • @RankinMsP
      @RankinMsP ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Farrell story is quality.

  • @rezhaadriantanuharja3389
    @rezhaadriantanuharja3389 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    I don’t mind the rule. I think the rule actually give the gesture more weight, something like “I am okay getting a yellow card because my message is bigger then myself”

    • @anotherhappylanding4746
      @anotherhappylanding4746 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeah exactly and most players still do it if it's a important goal or last minute winner, messi did it against Madrid, ronaldos done it plenty there's nothing wrong with it

    • @falsemcnuggethope
      @falsemcnuggethope ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And you could still raise your shirt as long as it doesn't cover your head. That's just not as provocative so I don't think I've seen anyone do it.

    • @MrCollewet
      @MrCollewet ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@falsemcnuggethope to me taking off a shirt isn't provocative at all

    • @Ralelugo
      @Ralelugo ปีที่แล้ว

      You are absolutely correct, but still the rule affects some players. A smart center back or any defensive player would never condition their game with a yellow card by taking their shirt off, so I doubt you'll ever see a defensive player (again, a smart one) taking their shirt off to celebrate a goal.

    • @hi-ls6lt
      @hi-ls6lt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrCollewet To me and you yes, but there’s definitely some bitter people who get angry at seeing the briefest of glances at anyone’s body and thinking disgusting things.

  • @NostalgiNorden
    @NostalgiNorden ปีที่แล้ว +261

    These can all be fixed tough.
    1. Allow people to take their shirts off but keep the ban against messages.
    2. Time wasting can be fixed by adding more time like shows in the world cup or even better(I know you listening FIFA!) by having effective time like any other real sport.
    3. Sponsors can go fornicate themselves with an iron fork.

    • @VineetBhombore
      @VineetBhombore ปีที่แล้ว +45

      3) makes sense

    • @AlbRomano
      @AlbRomano ปีที่แล้ว +45

      3) Hard agree

    • @elr492
      @elr492 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      3. Allow the player to take off the shirt if he has a tattoo of the sponsor below. I am sure they will be fine with it then. Nothing screams more that they own you than stamping their name on you.

    • @reikenkayzer
      @reikenkayzer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Time wasting is time wasting and is a seperate offense regardless if shirts are on or off. It would be easy to book players for it and people would understand time wasting being the reason. And if it is such an issue getting the shirts on, have the player leave the pitch to do it.

    • @ArturoSubutex
      @ArturoSubutex ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why would you ban messages though? Why shouldn't freedom of expression apply to football players? A general rule against hate speech should be enough.

  • @penzlic
    @penzlic ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There is just one reason and you put it really good: to protect sponsors and therefore money, everything else revolve around that.

  • @alexkrycek3359
    @alexkrycek3359 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    What about The FA - Law 4: The Players’ Equipment?
    2. Compulsory equipment
    The compulsory equipment of a player comprises the following separate items:
    a shirt with sleeves
    shorts
    socks - tape or any material applied or worn externally must be the same colour as that part of the sock it is applied to or covers
    shinguards - these must be made of a suitable material to provide reasonable protection and covered by the socks
    footwear

    • @GTAVictor9128
      @GTAVictor9128 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I always thought it had something to do with dress code violation.

    • @davidjpeacock
      @davidjpeacock ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GTAVictor9128 this and it's just incredibly unprofessional, and these are professionals.

    • @happyknife8785
      @happyknife8785 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Compulsory equipment..... a shirt....they still have a shirt, they are just waving it over the head.

    • @ShinjiGetsGrounded
      @ShinjiGetsGrounded ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I always figured this was reason enough

    • @falsemcnuggethope
      @falsemcnuggethope ปีที่แล้ว

      What if you play with two shirts, one constantly covering your head?

  • @Thotbusters
    @Thotbusters ปีที่แล้ว +72

    My two absolute favourite shirt off moments will forever be Andres Iniesta's tribute to Daniel Jarque and Billy Sharp's tribute for his deceased son Luey Jacob Sharp.

    • @cheifwhat
      @cheifwhat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bit morbid

  • @Yali_
    @Yali_ ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Craig Beattie did something similar to the Hannover player in the Scottish Cup semi-final in 2012. He scored a 92min penalty to give Hearts the lead, took his top off, and started twirling it in the air as he ran around the racetrack that circled the pitch. He only got a booking for it, but imagine potentially missing a cup final against your club's biggest rivals because of a celebration for a last minute winner 😳

  • @RedRaptor7
    @RedRaptor7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sergio Aguero who scored the winner and won the title for Man City was booked for taking his shirt off after just bagging the winner.

  • @nurrr897
    @nurrr897 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This was interesting! Was expecting something like a John Arne Riise inspired spate of shirt removals to be the cause, but all of this made sense.

    • @Chiyenworkout
      @Chiyenworkout ปีที่แล้ว

      This regulation was only made because FIFA hates free speech

  • @zardsire2012
    @zardsire2012 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    There is no law against taking off your shorts. CR7 take notes.

    • @joepiekl
      @joepiekl ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There is. Ask Stephen Ireland.

    • @bradnotbread
      @bradnotbread ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _Harry Kane was booked after celebrating his goal by removing his shorts and performing a windmill._

  • @tyanaichigovera7308
    @tyanaichigovera7308 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Forlan narrative with the hint of sarcasm as the ref can't miss him on the pitch got me in stitches 😆.

  • @Abdulnajib
    @Abdulnajib ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don’t remember Aubameyang getting yellows for the mask celebrations

  • @MikeMadari
    @MikeMadari ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So, could a player remove their shorts in celebration, or would that also be considered “provocative?”

  • @nathanngumi8467
    @nathanngumi8467 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative!

  • @BFG_10G
    @BFG_10G ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wondered the history of this! Great video!

  • @jonathan13co
    @jonathan13co ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I always figured it's an extension of the law regarding the player's equipment, where it explicitly states what a player can/cannot equip and what is mandatory about his outfit. Obviously taking your shirt off at any part of the game violates that rule, goal celebrations are no different. If players begin exploiting a rule that has no actual punishments, it's only natural that rule will be changed to also warrant a ticket. Some players can use it to their advantage, however, just like iago aspas did 😅

    • @t1lt252525
      @t1lt252525 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe but then wouldn’t that mean players should get booked when they change their boots? I dunno, still seems like a bit of a petty interpretation of the rule

    • @Jungfrun1
      @Jungfrun1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@t1lt252525 would depend in where you do it and why. If you are doing ut because your shoes broke you are following the rule by replacing them as they are mandatory equipment. If you are doing it off the pitch and out off play the rules does not yet apply to you, like with substitutes wearing jackets that they take of before going onto the field. If you suddenly kick off your shoes and continue playing you've broken the rule, as it would force the ref to stop the game in order to tell the player to put his shoes back on.

    • @eljanrimsa5843
      @eljanrimsa5843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@t1lt252525 If you change your boots to celebrate a goal you will be booked.

  • @lwazihlatshwayo4785
    @lwazihlatshwayo4785 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you please do a video on Back Passes
    I don't really understand those

  • @cpthegenius
    @cpthegenius ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for clarifying

  • @SGTStubble
    @SGTStubble ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, thanks!

  • @stevphen
    @stevphen ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Is there any evidence that the rule change was in any way influenced by sponsors being upset about their logos / marketing messages being obscured by shirt removal? Honestly I would not doubt at all that was a factor, but was wondering what concrete evidence there is of that (and if any sponsors pushed to introduce the rule changes).

    • @pogonarugeorge3504
      @pogonarugeorge3504 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would love to find that out, the last part. So I know to never ever buy their products again :))

    • @TheSlySight
      @TheSlySight ปีที่แล้ว

      I can remember the news reporting on sponsors being annoyed by it and complaining to Footballing bodies back before it was banned.

  • @lonestarr1490
    @lonestarr1490 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What would happen if a player takes off his shirt to reveal the exact same shirt underneath?

  • @pedestrian2530
    @pedestrian2530 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Video: ends.
    Everyone: frantically searches for videos of shirtless Diego Forlan playing football.

  • @sehu1291
    @sehu1291 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paulo Diogo once got his ring finger wedged in the fence during a match when he climbed up to cheer and tore half his finger off when he jumped back down.

  • @MickeyThomas408
    @MickeyThomas408 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    2 of the best moments of players celebrating this way that I can remember was Messi’s last second winner of the 17’ El Classico when he held his shirt up towards the section of Barca supporters, while the rest of the Bernabéu was stunned in silence. After crossing himself, the ref showed him the inevitable yellow, and Messi gave him the old 😉
    The second has to be Mario Balotelli after scoring against Germany in the 2012 Euro

    • @ugenthiraagerrard2840
      @ugenthiraagerrard2840 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah just like a few months later Ronaldo scored a stunner and Silenced the whole Camp Nou in Supercopa Final. He also held his shirt high before getting a yellow.

    • @fastenedcarrot9570
      @fastenedcarrot9570 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Messi one a camerman managed to get a shot where Messi had let go of one side of the shirt butnit still hung in the air too. Which is such a great picture.

    • @stefankatsarov5806
      @stefankatsarov5806 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wasnt that also his 500th goal.

    • @surojitbhattacharyya8428
      @surojitbhattacharyya8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ugenthiraagerrard2840 And later got another yellow and a red card for diving 🤣

    • @ugenthiraagerrard2840
      @ugenthiraagerrard2840 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@surojitbhattacharyya8428 still butchered barka, silenced camp nou and floored pique. Anything you wanna add?

  • @jkbuckeye1
    @jkbuckeye1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yeah, I think it’s mostly the overcelebration thing, which probably ties in a bit w/ time wasting in general

    • @falsemcnuggethope
      @falsemcnuggethope ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Time wasting and provocation. You can still reveal a message from the shirt underneath while hiding the sponsors.

  • @elPedroGuerreiro
    @elPedroGuerreiro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jardel when he was playing in Sporting used to take off his shirt to publicize Guaraná. Yellow cards started after. Then he stated taking his shirt and using the slogan, but change the name of the brand to something else. After yellow cards started to come as well. Nezt season, some players in the Portuguese league started taking off the shirt, but instead of having a shirt bellow, they wpuld show a temporary tatoo. So after a while, every player that took hia shirt got booked.
    So i think Jardel and the Portuguese league were key in this rule

  • @TranCeFORM3R
    @TranCeFORM3R ปีที่แล้ว

    love this channel because of videos like this

  • @customch33s32
    @customch33s32 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think getting a yellow card sends more of a statement when you do take of your shirt.
    The goal was so impressive, the written message was so important that it was worth a yellow card

  • @Lukas_CG
    @Lukas_CG ปีที่แล้ว

    Joe that was beautifully narrated, thanks

  • @gromcom
    @gromcom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I remember correctly there was a player in Italy who severed his finger off when climbing the fencing while celebrating so the no climbing the fence seems like a sensible rule to have.

  • @kwazilucas
    @kwazilucas ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tifo is the greatest football channel ever on TH-cam. I never thought about why are players penalized for taking off their shirts but I did need to know. 😂

    • @johnoloo9527
      @johnoloo9527 ปีที่แล้ว

      The reasons are puerile

  • @willyum3920
    @willyum3920 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    so in conclusion, they want to protect the sponsors.

  • @the_luggage
    @the_luggage ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember the Forlan incident; it seemed his shirt had a complicated inner layer which had turned inside out and he just couldn't figure it out 🤣

  • @Truthsaayr
    @Truthsaayr ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow wow do you know in my life I haven't even bother to look this up but you guys just gives me the answer

  • @omadduxo
    @omadduxo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's mostly because of time wasting and over celebration. In the years before the rule was changed it was really unbearable how players celebrated goals with taking the shirt off, running to the fans, waiving their shirts and taking forever to get back on the pitch. This is also the reason why players now can be booked for jumping over billboards and/or jumping in the stand to celebrate with the fans.
    A little side note about climbing fences. It's not just punishable because of time wasting but also because of security reasons. A player in germany (i think it was at a third division game) climbed up the fence to celebrate, got his wedding ring stuck in the fence while jumping down and ripped his ring finger off. Idk if climbing the fence was already forbidden at that time but because of this incident the IFAB implemented the rule that all jewelery has to be taken off or has to be tapped over.

    • @Rassalcon
      @Rassalcon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So book them for time wasting...

    • @TheEyeball37
      @TheEyeball37 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why not just tweak the rule to give players a yellow for jumping into the stands (because of time wasting) but not for taking off their shirt? Those are two separate things.

  • @SomeonePreet
    @SomeonePreet ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This rule led to one of the most iconic moments from Ronaldo and Messi…

  • @coopaloopmex
    @coopaloopmex ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic. I know this rule, but I never knew that I did actually care for such in depth investigation until today

  • @nimroddormin9844
    @nimroddormin9844 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I remember correctly, a player of the German 2. Bundesliga lost his ring finger after climbing the fence in celebration and then jumping back down after the ring on his finger got accidentally stuck between the fence's metal fixtures...

  • @goldust3212
    @goldust3212 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I believe it made it more special for those very special moments, Aguero, Deeney's celebrations would never be more special if there was no yellow card for it and it was also commonplace in football

  • @Yeaahh2
    @Yeaahh2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It is not fair at all certainly in knockout tournaments.

  • @DimmyV
    @DimmyV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Identification problem 😂 this is definitely something I disprove of. I want to see passion in the game and if its a meaningful goal, late winner etc then year I want to see the players enjoy that goal with their teammates.

  • @Brunix7000
    @Brunix7000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in the VAR era where no one knows what a penalti is, or what a handball is, it’s sort of reassuring to have a clearly specified rule (like goal-line tech)

  • @lordbotato7175
    @lordbotato7175 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    We all know the real reason is because of the sponsors in the shirts.

  • @FrankB69
    @FrankB69 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I can’t remember his name or the team I think it was in the championship, but there was a player who’s sun had died not long after being born. When he came back to playing in the 1st game back he scored a goal then took his jersey off where he had a T-shirt that said “ for you sun” and the ref didn’t book him
    It was good to see common sense some times in life

  • @andreacaprotti7544
    @andreacaprotti7544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the Totti celebration with the "6 mitica" shirt for Ilary is considered unanimously in Italy as the single-most romantic in our collective memory

  • @FloatingOnAZephyr
    @FloatingOnAZephyr ปีที่แล้ว

    Much respect to Diego Forlan's 'distinguished' hair! These sorts of errors happen quite often in otherwise excellent videos.

  • @ryan5752
    @ryan5752 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    While i am of the opinion that the mentioned reasons seem fair enough, i think a middle ground can still be struck imo. For example, as mentioned, tribute related celebrations, such as the one with Iniesta, should be allowed in my view. I think in this case, the context , and the intended message of the celebration should be taken into account, and if it isnt inflamatory in nature, then it should not be carded imo

    • @jacksonmcquade7888
      @jacksonmcquade7888 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But what is "inflammatory in nature"? If a Ukrainian player takes off his shirt in celebration to reveal a heartfelt message to his home country, most of the world might think of it as a positive, but the Russian owned sponsor on the jersey might not. It's too vague for a ref to make that decision

    • @Jungfrun1
      @Jungfrun1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Better to make a rule absolute so that we don't have to rely on the refs. If we don't football will end up like NA hockey where as long as you don't hit a player with your stick to many times or to high your fine even if its against the rules. Who decides what to many or to high? The refs.

    • @ryan5752
      @ryan5752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacksonmcquade7888 i get your point, although judging by the current climate one could reasonably intepret that as a political message and thus it warrants a card for sure. Im just thinking like for example, birthday messages, tributes to legends or friends etc, those should be excused imo

    • @Darwinek
      @Darwinek ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacksonmcquade7888 Then the decision should be left with disciplinary committee post-game.

    • @anonymousperson3023
      @anonymousperson3023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jungfrun1 High sticking is an absolute rule though. You can't hit a player with your own stick in the face with the exception of the stuck being a follow through

  • @Cha0sMaster
    @Cha0sMaster ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So basically, this rule is for sponsors to not miss out on pretty pictures.

  • @muhammedgamal5871
    @muhammedgamal5871 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this one so much

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did not know about the Forlan incident, that's hilarious 😂.

  • @clarencedhege1
    @clarencedhege1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    After watching this , the no shirt rule is actually quite stupid. How will putting on a shirt take time ? Some messages under shirts are nice. Such a nonsense rule.

    • @billfarley9015
      @billfarley9015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're entitled to your opinion. I think taking off your shirt during a game is actually quite stupid and childish too. Football got along for decades without it.

  • @djbowen76
    @djbowen76 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Aubameyang had quite a few different masks in his time at Arsenal, including Black Panther /Wakanda celebration following the passing of Chadwick Boseman.

  • @Michael-tk9mx
    @Michael-tk9mx ปีที่แล้ว

    From my understanding, I haven't watched this video fully. Was that it blocks view of the sponsor during the most important moments, eg scoring a goal

  • @seanfetta
    @seanfetta ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like the card almost makes the celebration better or more impactful especially when it comes to messages underneath because your showing that it’s more important to you than the booking.

  • @bilderberg2418
    @bilderberg2418 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine being told your message is provocative probably saying "Stop War." Yet deciding not to wear a LGBTQ arm band or shirt with numbers coloured in the LGBTQ flag because of your beliefs is provocative.

  • @usedsweatpants799
    @usedsweatpants799 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The player should be booked if they display political , religion or provocative message. Scoring a goal and taking the shirt off to show a message " Happy Birthday son " or simply take it off in the heat of the moment and get booked for it is nothing short but absurd. The real reason they can't take off the shirt is because of the sponsors and nothing else. As usual , money comes first and the show second

    • @Chiyenworkout
      @Chiyenworkout ปีที่แล้ว

      This regulation was only made because FIFA hates free speech

    • @falsemcnuggethope
      @falsemcnuggethope ปีที่แล้ว

      You can still show messages you have underneath without getting booked. That's not the problem. And hiding sponsors is also ok. It's the provocation and killing the flow of the game that the rule successfully reduces.

  • @bongs_esc
    @bongs_esc ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m surprised that Manuel Benson of Burnley wasn’t booked this past weekend after celebrating on 2 separate occasions by lifting his shirt up to show a message (vs Bornemouth in the FA Cup)

  • @apexwaggish4829
    @apexwaggish4829 ปีที่แล้ว

    I forgot who did it but, some player took of his jersey to reveal a Identical jersey, I think he still got carded though.

  • @jetlifari
    @jetlifari ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always thought they made it a yellow card offence for men because when the female players started taking their shirts off in celebration there was an uproar against that behaviour and the justification back then was that the guys were doing it so FIFA then made it an offence for everyone...

    • @tobiathon80
      @tobiathon80 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it's fine for women to take theirs tops off at times of celebration.

  • @Google_Does_Evil_Now
    @Google_Does_Evil_Now ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Growing up in England in the 1970s and 1980s it was normal for guys and boys to not wear a top when it was warm in summer. It changed during the 1990s.
    Why?
    Foreign culture influence? People getting fatter?
    I was in Spain in the summertime on holiday and I had a lady in the street ask me to put my top back on. On a street in a seaside resort. It was over 30°C. :-) :-)

    • @OzyMandias13
      @OzyMandias13 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are still proud fattys displaying English beef at Newcastle matches.

  • @abuibu
    @abuibu ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently a player scored a late goal, took his shirt off in celebration, received a second yellow because of it and was sent off... VAR then disallowed the goal.

  • @18yearoldboy38
    @18yearoldboy38 ปีที่แล้ว

    A player for the Cameroon international football team did the same in the WC 2022 and got a second yellow and set off but won the game against I can’t remember which country

    • @opinionatortv6457
      @opinionatortv6457 ปีที่แล้ว

      Against Brazil and his name is Vincent Aboubakar

  • @emptiness018
    @emptiness018 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    its simple. money. they want the shirt with sponsor to be visible on tv when celebrating

  • @Shad0w5carab
    @Shad0w5carab ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My biggest pet peeve in football. Absolutely ridiculous rule, but as with most things in modern football money is the only thing that matters 🤷‍♂️

  • @DynoKea
    @DynoKea ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. Sponsors - The obviously suspected reasons. They paid for a billboard, not to be tossed on the grass
    2. Over Celebration - I mean, I kind of get it but this isn't going to do anything. You score the big winner you just take the booking
    3. Messages - I mean this feels unnecessarily harsh and also like it's covered elsewhere
    4. Time Wasting
    5. Shirt Replacement - 4 & 5 feel the same, but if the shirt isn't on quick enough, you've got to do it from off the pitch.

  • @catdaily5727
    @catdaily5727 ปีที่แล้ว

    First of all sorry for my english :P
    It was sunday league quarter final, some district football tournament, when i scored last minute goal against the opponent. It was an easy goal, corner, crowded with players, just tuck the ball and it's in! I ran, took my shirt off, threw it to the air and screaming like a madman with my team mates.
    Taking off shirt like the ultimate celebration! You should know how it feels! :)

  • @DavidMrKidcolombia
    @DavidMrKidcolombia ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What if fifa just had a mode where you have to unlock the shirtless celebrations on fifa when you score a late gaming mode where the game was intense and you still get a yellow because that would be dope. I'd buy it just for that. I'm also very baked rn

  • @tredaviousbowser7931
    @tredaviousbowser7931 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It’s excess celebration warranted a yellow card. Why is that hard to understand

    • @darlingboyMMA
      @darlingboyMMA ปีที่แล้ว +17

      because it's a stupid rule

    • @tredaviousbowser7931
      @tredaviousbowser7931 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@darlingboyMMA you clearly missed the “excess” part

    • @iisquared77
      @iisquared77 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      because a) most fans disagree, and b) this goes into further detail as to why

    • @bungaIowbill
      @bungaIowbill ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's say you score, and calmly jog back to your half while taking your shirt off to wipe some sweat from your forehead and putting it back on. Is this excessive compared to keeping the shirt while doing a back flip, knee sliding, running around screaming, dancing, kissing cameras and posing?

    • @NostalgiNorden
      @NostalgiNorden ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tredaviousbowser7931 You clearly missed school

  • @JDRusse11
    @JDRusse11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, Tifo never fails to answer my most pressing questions regarding football! ⚽️

  • @borisjerkunica4442
    @borisjerkunica4442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My understanding is once Brandi Chastain took her shirt off in the 1998 world cup a debate was initiated. FIFA didn't want women doing that (since some countries in the world would find that offensive) so the women pointed out that the men were doing it and thus the law came about for both men and women.

  • @garthvader9916
    @garthvader9916 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:43 typo on 'separate'.

  • @hermansantoso5479
    @hermansantoso5479 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about Eric Hassli's double jerseys?

  • @abdirazaqhussein3262
    @abdirazaqhussein3262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Senegal winning goal vs France for the opening game for WC 2002 was one of the best memories as 16yr old as it was unfathomable to me that the team I seen win the 98 WC and the Euro 00 would be beaten and thus the birth of the cup holders curse. France 22 is different as they imploded and families fought at the Euros.

  • @Krissdafish
    @Krissdafish ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised tattoos weren't mentioned. While tattoos are often personal, it could also promote brands if they spoof the design of a populare brand or contains an image of any character.
    As they are mainly personal, they could also contain messages that provoke the oppoqition if it's a symbol of an ongoing or historocal conflict between two parts.

  • @jeffxcool5106
    @jeffxcool5106 ปีที่แล้ว

    Work done by the new editor?

  • @benjasine3472
    @benjasine3472 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 2.19 you say the wrong name for the club, its SK Brann not Brann Bergen. But other then that its a great video

  • @maba1503
    @maba1503 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I only listened I wouldnt even know that Huszti was mentioned in the video :D

  • @mind76
    @mind76 ปีที่แล้ว

    There should be another video explaining why this is a form of celebration in the first place.

  • @twizla3575
    @twizla3575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Because when they score and all the cameras are on the goalscorer, you can't see the companys logo if he takes the shirt off. That's a big commercial loss and the real reason behind it

  • @cnsandiford
    @cnsandiford ปีที่แล้ว

    When the vid said players have trouble getting their shirt back on, I felt sure we were headed towards a Ballotelli story

  • @AmoMoloko
    @AmoMoloko ปีที่แล้ว

    Can y’all do a video on legends in other continental competitions besides UEFA?

  • @gwinter93
    @gwinter93 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happened to Demari Gray when he revealed a sentimental message in honour of Vichai, the Leicester owner, who just days before had died in a helicopter crash.

  • @DonPasquale_
    @DonPasquale_ ปีที่แล้ว

    1:38 misspelled separate lol

  • @willmurrill3572
    @willmurrill3572 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is players started to cover the kid sponsor when they scored? Would they then make as rule against that or hugging teammates?

  • @tvgcmma9215
    @tvgcmma9215 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the Robbie fowler one the dockers did a whip round to pay the fine - he obviously didn’t accept and paid it - Jimmy McGovern tv series in it

  • @mustafaabdulsahib9317
    @mustafaabdulsahib9317 ปีที่แล้ว

    so if a player scores, takes off his shirt in celebration and gets a yellow card, the goal then is disallowed by var, does that cancel the yellow card?

  • @tonnyronoh1870
    @tonnyronoh1870 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would have been better if you had added the videos while explaining

  • @18yearoldboy38
    @18yearoldboy38 ปีที่แล้ว

    He plays for the Cameroon men’s football team and al nassr

  • @edwardmikus7556
    @edwardmikus7556 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve also heard that the rule was intended for parts of the world where such would be seen as offensive to certain people’s sensibilities.

  • @dubbaphatt3368
    @dubbaphatt3368 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t understand the compulsion to take off your shirt when you’re excited.
    I won 10 grand on a scratch card yesterday, shirt remained on. Wasn’t even tempted.

  • @jay3365
    @jay3365 ปีที่แล้ว

    !!!!!!!!!!PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON THE (NOT) OFFSIDES EQUALIZER IN THE GAME BETWEEN CITY AND UNITED!!!!!!!!