She is such a wise woman! I hope that she and her work gets widely known, not only among professionals and clients but in the general public as well. We could use more of her wisdom in our society.
You asked for three books every mental health professional should read. On the ground, I would go so much further. The books she recommends focus on the clinical world, but the wisest therapists have wide ranging life experience, more than a passing awareness of global spiritual traditions, a decent grasp of sociological and legal systems, a strong respect for the strengths and weaknesses of socio-political stratification. The world is the book everyone needs to read and be immersed in.
Janina 😢 why didn’t you narrate your own audio book version of Healing the Fragmented Selves of Trauma Survivors 😭 Your voice is so calming and reassuring and safe. I was about to buy it, and I want to buy it. I know I will struggle with the very ‘professional’ narrator though 😔
This is very interesting, thank you! Could someone explain the difference she mentions in 41 min between IFS and her approach? I am not getting it. What's the "based on science" bit that IFS misses? Thank you!
She compliments IFS's approach by saying mindful compassion and curiosity is a must when interacting with the different "parts" and that it's good IFS includes this. She might not have answered that one question the way Niall was expecting, but in other parts of this Q&A she mentions how her approach to the parts is a bit different from Dick's because she incorporates his IFS model with a neurobiological understanding of the literal different parts of the brain. I believe this is called the structural dissociation model. Hope this helps!
@@c.t.7428 Ah, thank you! So, if I get it, in the IFS model the parts are more of an abstract/spiritual concept to help us understand the inner workings of our complex personality whereas she bases it on the findings of neuroscience that confirm that different parts of the brain are actually responsible for the various parts. Is that right? Fascinating! This whole model is very helpful in my self-discovery. :-) Thanks again for responding!
@@agatakjoy actually it’s not that “different parts of the brain are actually responsible for the different parts“. There’s a simplicity embedded in IFS, but more complex to explain. If you’re interested in learning more, besides many books on the topic, you could watch interviews on TH-cam of Richard Schwartz (and so many others now). Another person that does a nice job of explaining IFS in layman’s neurobiological way is Dr. Tori Olds. All the best.
Both Dr. Fisher and Dr. McGilchrist understand the function of the left and right hemispheres and they also know that both are used when functioning under normal circumstances. Dr. McGilchrist's riveting research talks about the evolution of the brain, the continual decrease in the ratio of the corpus collosum (the "inhibitor") to the volume of the hemispheres and how this supports a literal ever-growing divide between the two halves of the brain in a world that continuously values things that are concrete/distinct that fit neatly into categories that support rationale and devalues intuition and the more intangible aspects of our world. As the Dr. McGilchrist said himself, " The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We live in a society that honours the servant but has forgotten the gift." Both Fisher and McGilchrist see a inhibition in the parts of the brain, but McGhilchrist talks about this divide manifesting from an evolutionary basis mainly due to societal values and Dr. Fisher talks about the dissociation between hemispheres highlighted in the structural dissociation model and explained as the left hemisphere/"brain" as being the going on with normal life self that primarily takes over in those who experience trauma (especially CPTSD). Hence why people who experience this type of trauma usually have a hard time mindfully noticing/observing tough emotions, accompanying body sensations and practicing the these 8 “C” traits towards themselves/others: Curiosity, Calm, Creativity, Courageousness, Compassion, Clarity, Confidence, and Connectedness. I don't see the beliefs of these two professionals clashing on this matter (I know you weren't implying they were). Their beliefs about the hemispheres/parts only add support to the idea that the interconnectedness and availability of different parts of the brain is a malleable and evolving thing. Thanks for mentioning Dr. Iain McGilchrist! I've never heard of him before as my descent down this fabulous rabbit hole has only recently begun. I recommend watching this 11 minute animated video of his discussion of the divided brain. barriebramley.com/the-theory-of-left-brain-and-right-brain-isnt-what-you-think-it-is/
Are you able to provide a timestamp to provide context to what you are commenting on? I’m not sure if you’re quoting her or making your own statement. It isn’t clear. I don’t know why you’re bringing athletes into it but we are talking about dissociation in the context of trauma survivors.
She is such a wise woman! I hope that she and her work gets widely known, not only among professionals and clients but in the general public as well. We could use more of her wisdom in our society.
We're using it! It's the cutting edge in trauma treatment.
You asked for three books every mental health professional should read. On the ground, I would go so much further. The books she recommends focus on the clinical world, but the wisest therapists have wide ranging life experience, more than a passing awareness of global spiritual traditions, a decent grasp of sociological and legal systems, a strong respect for the strengths and weaknesses of socio-political stratification. The world is the book everyone needs to read and be immersed in.
WOW, life-changing. Thank you for this wonderful interview - and Janina Fisher for the work and research.
Thank you Dr Janina ❤
Thank you for this wonderful interview and Dr. Fisher for your healing wisdom and guidance.
Thank you for this interview! ❤️
Janina 😢 why didn’t you narrate your own audio book version of Healing the Fragmented Selves of Trauma Survivors 😭
Your voice is so calming and reassuring and safe.
I was about to buy it, and I want to buy it. I know I will struggle with the very ‘professional’ narrator though 😔
I may just buy a hard copy version and add it to my list of books to read 😏
Definitely looking into those book recommendations! Thank you for this lovely Q&A! ❤
Thank you for sharing this valuable information ❤
This is very interesting, thank you!
Could someone explain the difference she mentions in 41 min between IFS and her approach? I am not getting it. What's the "based on science" bit that IFS misses? Thank you!
She compliments IFS's approach by saying mindful compassion and curiosity is a must when interacting with the different "parts" and that it's good IFS includes this. She might not have answered that one question the way Niall was expecting, but in other parts of this Q&A she mentions how her approach to the parts is a bit different from Dick's because she incorporates his IFS model with a neurobiological understanding of the literal different parts of the brain. I believe this is called the structural dissociation model. Hope this helps!
@@c.t.7428 Ah, thank you! So, if I get it, in the IFS model the parts are more of an abstract/spiritual concept to help us understand the inner workings of our complex personality whereas she bases it on the findings of neuroscience that confirm that different parts of the brain are actually responsible for the various parts. Is that right? Fascinating! This whole model is very helpful in my self-discovery. :-) Thanks again for responding!
@@agatakjoy actually it’s not that “different parts of the brain are actually responsible for the different parts“. There’s a simplicity embedded in IFS, but more complex to explain. If you’re interested in learning more, besides many books on the topic, you could watch interviews on TH-cam of Richard Schwartz (and so many others now). Another person that does a nice job of explaining IFS in layman’s neurobiological way is Dr. Tori Olds. All the best.
@@jennifernowicki7657 Thank you for replying! I have listened to Schwartz, but I will check Olds. Thanks for the recommendations. :)
We absolutely know the answer to Trauma - it's called mutually reciprocal respectful relations with compassionate others.
It's not Rocket 🚀 Science.
Sorry about the trauma dump - me has cptsd - over sharing - again with my imaginary youtube support group.
I would be curious if she is speaking “right brain left brain” in the same model as Iain McGilchrist
Both Dr. Fisher and Dr. McGilchrist understand the function of the left and right hemispheres and they also know that both are used when functioning under normal circumstances. Dr. McGilchrist's riveting research talks about the evolution of the brain, the continual decrease in the ratio of the corpus collosum (the "inhibitor") to the volume of the hemispheres and how this supports a literal ever-growing divide between the two halves of the brain in a world that continuously values things that are concrete/distinct that fit neatly into categories that support rationale and devalues intuition and the more intangible aspects of our world. As the Dr. McGilchrist said himself,
" The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We live in a society that honours the servant but has forgotten the gift."
Both Fisher and McGilchrist see a inhibition in the parts of the brain, but McGhilchrist talks about this divide manifesting from an evolutionary basis mainly due to societal values and Dr. Fisher talks about the dissociation between hemispheres highlighted in the structural dissociation model and explained as the left hemisphere/"brain" as being the going on with normal life self that primarily takes over in those who experience trauma (especially CPTSD). Hence why people who experience this type of trauma usually have a hard time mindfully noticing/observing tough emotions, accompanying body sensations and practicing the these 8 “C” traits towards themselves/others: Curiosity, Calm, Creativity, Courageousness, Compassion, Clarity, Confidence, and Connectedness.
I don't see the beliefs of these two professionals clashing on this matter (I know you weren't implying they were). Their beliefs about the hemispheres/parts only add support to the idea that the interconnectedness and availability of different parts of the brain is a malleable and evolving thing.
Thanks for mentioning Dr. Iain McGilchrist! I've never heard of him before as my descent down this fabulous rabbit hole has only recently begun. I recommend watching this 11 minute animated video of his discussion of the divided brain.
barriebramley.com/the-theory-of-left-brain-and-right-brain-isnt-what-you-think-it-is/
Memory reconsolidation Bruce Ecker
I recommend this as well
How do I forgive myself for hurting my own children and regretting my divorce? I’m suicidal 😢😢😢
Performance dissociation is totally connected to executive functioning- this women is silly. Ask any real athletes - omg
Are you able to provide a timestamp to provide context to what you are commenting on? I’m not sure if you’re quoting her or making your own statement. It isn’t clear.
I don’t know why you’re bringing athletes into it but we are talking about dissociation in the context of trauma survivors.