Speaking as a detransitioner- I HATE how my experience is always being weaponized against trans people. I never got on hormones because guess what? The therapy that was part of my affirmation WORKED and we were able to pinpoint that my hatred for my body came from my extreme period symptoms. The process can be life saving for both trans AND non trans people.
@@WinstonSealPhD The actual child abuse is still allowing trans children to commit suicide when we’ve found a way that drastically reduces this. What do you propose be done instead? Because decades of study have shown that conversion therapy *doesn’t work* and actually worsens these children’s conditions. So yeah, if you can somehow tell me the magic, scientifically proven cure-all for gender dysphoria that I’ve never heard of before, I’d love to hear it. Because as far as I and the vast majority of studies show, transition is the only way that’s been found to alleviate this. Also, I feel like you didn’t even read my comment because I said that the medical system helped me recognize transitioning wasn’t right for me and didn’t just put me on hormones, even though I was an adult at the time. Doctors don’t just put you on puberty blockers or hormones just because you ask for them- there’s a really in depth process they go through to figure out whether you’re actually dysphoric or not and all of the factors of your past are considered in whether or not you get diagnosed.
@@ThatFont Sad that you have to lie but then you live a life meant to deceive mostly yourself. Your agenda is littered with abuses. More pseudoscience from the trans bullies. This agenda is littered with ABUSE. Pediatric clinics across the globe have noted exponentially higher rates of preexisting mental health and neurodevelopmental diagnoses among young people requesting gender identity services. Yet it was found that for parents who knew the content of their child’s evaluation, 71.6% reported that the clinician did NOT explore issues of mental health, previous trauma, or any alternative causes of gender dysphoria before proceeding and 70.0% report that the clinician did not request any medical records before proceeding.
Met a detrans person a while ago. She were invited to speak at our LGBT history month dinner. She expressed that she was on testosterone for a couple months and realized she didn’t like the degree of masculinity that it was bringing, and she felt more comfortable in a fem/nb state. She didn’t regret taking T and was ok with the masculinized voice she got, since she didn’t want to stop until other things started. She expressed that she had been told trans people would hate her and reject her. She said that didn’t happen at all. She got just as much applause as everyone else at the end of her speech.
@@Gdr5928The difference between trans people and a cult is 1. There isn't one person who defines how everyone thinks 2. Debate is allowed and encouraged 3. Transness isn't the only thing a trans person can be 4. Being trans doesn't mean you can't talk to Cis people Christianity is closer to a cult than trans people are. Being against trans people is closer to a cult than supporting trans people. Even then we should support people on their beliefs if it doesn't hurt anyone or themselves. And continue to question everything rather than trusting old data that had bias from the beginning. Question even current research. Just, be kind to everyone. Even cult members. They're as much of victims as people who go to conversion therapy.
@@Gdr5928 this isint a great comparison, and is also false. Bigots always ALWAYS ask the opposite of the minority the want to study. ALWAYS. If you say "nuh uh they don't" you're just as bad as them or worse.
@@Gdr5928also it's not "trans identifying" they ARE trans. They aren't "identifying" as anything. They are what they say they are, end of story. You wouldn't call someone who has schizophrenia "schizophrenia identifying" would you? 1. That's sounds stupid, as well as "trans identifying" 2. You should never reduce anyone to what they seem to be, even if it it's apart of themselves, 3. Stop being abelist and a bigot.
I find the "If they say they're a dog..." line of argument so funny because as kid I did once decide to be a dog called Peter, no idea why because I didn't even like dogs as a kid, but my parents' response was to let me eat from a bowl on the floor, let me curl up under a dog house made from cardboard and even got the nursery school staff to call me Peter and play along. Obviously nobody acted like this was a permanent thing or expected it to be, and it wasn't, but it was harmless to play along and let me use a different name. I see no reason to fear letting a child use a name and try out social transition because it'll either be play and they'll stop long before any medical treatment would happen, or it's not play and they get to live as themself sooner.
If a female can pretend to be a male or vice versa, why can’t she also claim to be non-human? Such a relativistic conclusion is regretfully here: it's called trans-species -- also know as furries or otherkins. People with Species Identity Disorder consider themselves non-human and are featured at homosexual parades. The arguments used by the trans-species movement to question their human status are essentially the same as those of the transgender movement.
@@WinstonSealPhD Because there's no recognised social and health benefit to acknowledging people as non-human. There is when we acknowledge that a person might not be the gender you'd assume they are. Cut the false equivalences.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l Your psychobabble is typical. Conditioning children to believe the absurdity that they or anyone could be “born into the wrong body,” and that a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse. Affirming gender dysphoria via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to “gender clinics” where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs. This, in turn, virtually ensures that they will “choose” a lifetime of sterility, toxic cross-sex hormones, and likely consider unnecessary surgical mutilation of their healthy body parts as young adults.
@@WinstonSealPhD Interesting that people have to tell kids for kids ro want something. I was never told about mastectomys as a child but before I grew breasts I knew I wanted it, still do, I hate having these useless fat bags. Don't even claim that they're healthy, they're not, not when they make me hate myself.
"My child clearly states she's a girl, perceives herself as a girl, and is most comfortable in this world presenting as a girl. So this is about me, right? Has to be about me. It's all about me".
"I was faced with the unthinkable: treating my child with basic respect and decency. And like hell was I going to do that! So I devoted my entire life to promoting conversion therapy!"
@Gdr5928 For the last time - the existence of similar-appearing phenomena doesn't invalidate the other. This isn't even remotely Munchausen - no one is pretending to be unsettled with their gender.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9lMisusing terms they don't properly understand seems to be @Gdr5928's entire shtick unfortunately, they've been doing it all over the comments on this video.
Mumbling “themself” underneath him saying “himself or herself” is such a mood man. I had a teacher that wouldn’t accept a singular they/them and it was the most annoying thing ever. He got fired 3/4 of the way through the year for being a god awful teacher and I couldn’t have been happier :)
I had a teacher who had a relationship with a teenager, all the way up to when she turned 18 starting at 14. He was like....27. He still works there, everyone is fine with this. Like...wtf?
A teacher not accepting proper grammar is crazy! I had a biology teacher tell us that intersex people didn’t exist, but a good amount of my classmates were my close friends who knew I was an intersex man. We called him out on being factually incorrect and he went “okay, well, tell me when you’ve ever seen a REAL intersex person”. Half of the class pointed to me, and he went white and never brought it up again.
the lefthanded graph is so important and so many people just write it off. It explains the rise in queer people, but also in people with adhd, autism, chronic illnesses, and more.
the rise in chronic illness can also be explained by our society being such a miserable soul-destroying shit slog. good luck getting out of this WITHOUT a chronic illness of some kind.
It's like if someone was doing an investigation on a crime scene and came to the conclusion that the stab wounds were caused by the victim's death. There is correlation and there is causation, but it's been pieced together the wrong way.
Very true. A few weeks ago I talked with a therapist specialized in trans identity for the first time and she told me that I need to be in a mentally stable state to start all that. I'm frustrated that I'll never be able to get a mastectomy...
@@tami7992so if I’m depressed and have bad anxiety which is made worse by my body, they will just say I have to be mentally stable first? Because I feel like the surgery would make me closer to being mentally stable
I was born in 1956, Female at birth. My entire life I felt totally off, not liking anything about being a girl, not liking anything about me, and had no idea why. by the time I was a teen I felt totally like a boy and wondered if God had made a mistake making my body a girl's. I did grow up in a very strict home and would have never been able to Transition even if I knew what Transitioning was. After both my parents died I started my medical transition. I am now 66.75 and when I see me in the mirror I am elated. I have been a Happy Trans Man since 2018 (at 61). I have never been Gay, no longer depressed, did not desist, absolutely love my new name, and am enjoying living as the man I was BORN AS.
I am so incredibly happy that you’re finally living as yourself!! I could not imagine the amount of stress feeling stuck for so long, and it’s truly wonderful that you’ve made it to where you are today 💖💖💖
I have a good friend of mine that is like my dad, he is also a trans man of 54 years old and he help me as that person i never had for telling me i am okey just the away i am and i am a real man and teaching me how to get better and start my transition ,he also have your experience, that's why is so important for us to still fighting, because you should deserve to look and be just the away you always have been since the beginning ♥️, and not pretend and have a bad and sad life, a life you never enjoy, I appreciate you because thanks to strong and brave mans as you boys like me maybe can have a better life, and i hope the ones that will come have one even better than our ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ (And sorry for my bad english)
Thank you for sharing. This makes me so happy! I suspect a cousin born in 1916 may have wanted to live as a woman (based on some of our conversations and his cross dressing) , but never did. I wish I'd known more about the trans community when he was still alive as I would have supported him if he wanted to more fully explore that identity. I DID offer to make him some dresses, but since we lived on opposite sides of the country, that never happened.
@@chrisbfreelance This is like saying that black people have all the same rights as white people and thus racism doesn’t exist. Trans people are a special group facing targeted discrimination that often isn’t protected by law, you can’t lose your job for being cis or heterosexual, but it can certainly happen for gay or trans people.
@@chrisbfreelance I had to leave my job after that because I was asked by my superiors to "keep being a boy" which resulted in months of psychological distress (pretending I was something I’m not), I also personally know a trans woman who’s been fired for being trans, trying to sue those companies often result in nothing, workplace discrimination on a trans basis is very much real, the same way that workplace discrimination also affects black people, gay people, etc, it’s very much still a thing experienced by a lot of people
@@chrisbfreelanceno they don't. They can't get affirming care, they get murdered for being LGBTQ, they can't do what makes them comfortable without being harassed, I could go on and on. If you say "nu-uh" you're dense and a bigot.
@@chrisbfreelance I've been fired for being trans. I live in an at-will employment state and it's very difficult to dispute wrongful termination of any kind here, especially without thorough documentation. So yeah, there are clear cut examples of trans people losing out on basic rights. Especially in the US
I went through conversion therapy. It changed me on a fundamental level, but didn't "cure" my trans identity....it just shoved me in a closet for 30 years before I found the strength to come out. Luckily, I've built a family of people who are kind, amazing and supportive. I still deal with the things I was taught back then, but I'm getting better. PLEASE don't do this to your children. Just listen to them and talk to a professional who follows the prescribed and accepted standards of care.
A comment that a mother of a trans child made recently on tik tok and it is a shining example of how parents should be with Trans kids. "I would rather my child change their name 100 times than have to write my child's obituary" like does more need saying than that.
@@Gdr5928 "Yes, it’s a false claim that a trans identifying child will almost certainly commit suicide if not affirmed. It’s just a lie." Here's the reality: After adjusting for demographic and potential confounding variables, childhood social transition was associated with lower odds of lifetime marijuana use (adjusted odds ratio .7, 95% confidence interval = .5-.8, p < .0001) when compared with adult social transition. Before adjusting for K-12 harassment based on gender identity, adolescent social transition was associated with adverse mental health outcomes, including greater odds of lifetime suicide attempts when compared with adult social transition (adjusted odds ratio 1.3, 95% confidence interval = 1.1-1.7, p = .004). These associations were no longer significant after further adjusting for K-12 harassment. Source: Timing of Social Transition for Transgender and Gender Diverse Youth, K-12 Harassment, and Adult Mental Health Outcomes
I just can’t understand why if we accept a child saying they’re cisgender or heterosexual, we can’t do the same for a child saying they’re transgender or gay
Because that would undercut the parent's ownership of their children... You clearly see it in that one parent who was so angry with his kid that he really does think of the child as property... What a lovely society
They need kids to grow up to be cishet, so they can have children of their own who can be sent off to war, or to work themselves to the bone. In their minds, LGBTQ+ people don't reproduce, so we're a threat to that paradigm.
@insu_na something I thought of based on Jamie's recent react on Boy!Moms is how much of an overlap there seems to be between them and TERFs. So much of their identity is tied up in being the mother of boys that it terrifies that could be taken away from them.
It’s just a lack of education or a refusal to acknowledge fact. I think that may be why there’s such an overlap in this sort of rhetoric and certain religions. Utah is a good example- a lot of people here are very racist, transphobic and homophobic. They’re usually also very mormon and anti-science. I can’t even count the amount of times I’ve heard them claim that teaching science, history and biology in schools is “indoctrination into the liberal agenda”. No, Karen, it’s just how the world is outside of your church. Soooo sorry that facts back up the existence and equalities of LGBT people and POC.
if i had known about trans kids (or even trans people in general) growing up, i wouldn't have spent so many years wondering what was "wrong" with me or why i felt so horrible about my gender. the idea of other young trans people being forced to go through that same experience upsets me to the core.
@ville2_ looking at your channel, i can see that you're one of those uttp kids. i also noticed that your only video is titled "Woman Crying Over Her Dog Being Put Down [TRY NOT TO LAUGH]." i can see why your parents disowned you, now reply to me you expired milk
Transphobic parents are acting like it’s a threat, but it’s more like a warning. Trans kids who are not supported by their parents are much more likely to either cut off all connection from said parents or cut their own life short. It is a fact and it is a warning. We don’t control your children’s emotional well-being. We only take notes on it and inform you of what could happen if you continue down this abusive path.
What’s annoying is how politicians and conservatives acknowledge that trans kids either thing about or go through with self harm, yet they block off gender affirming care, the only way dysphoria can be overcome, and wonder why self harm is such a problem.
@@bobaoriley1912 Because it suits their goals. They don't respect any of us, and it would be so much more convenient for them if we all stopped existing. Binding us with bad legislation and boosting the frequency of self harm is a stepping stone to what they really want. There are no creatures on earth more wretched and less human than the right wing.
My favorite schadenfreude is I have a friend who had kids before he transitioned. His dad in particular is ahem an asshole. Friend has been as cool as he could be about this- letting the kids have geandparrnt time while managing his boundaries (he has better relationships with hus sibs and his mom). His kids all on their own have pretty much cut nearly all contact with friend's dad because of the phobia. Friend never said word one, just let his father dig his own hole.
My daughter went thru a questioning phase when she was around 10. She knew she didn't feel straight, but wasn't sure what she was comfortable identifying as. At one point she she went thru a period of time where she tried dressing more as a boy, wearing her older brother's hand-me-downs & she even picked out a name she wanted to be called when she wore those clothes. She even asked me if she could have boys clothes. I supported her, I made myself available for her to talk to, we looked things up together. That period didn't last long, she realized she liked being a girl & liked dressing like a girl sometimes, but she also liked boys clothes - fair, they have better pockets lol. A few yrs later she came out as Bi, and a few yrs after that she decided she really doesn't fit any label so she identifies as Queer. But as her parent it was so easy for me to just keep loving her as I always had, and to support her so she felt safe learning who she was. Yeah I had to devote some time to learning more about the different groups in the LGBTQIA+ community, but that just made me a better ally and a better Mom for her.
@@tobyatlas6480 When I read the notification showing your comment my 1st reaction was: Why? What did I do? So thank you for seeing value in what I consider to be natural. And I agree, I wish there were more parents who could remember their child is still their child no matter how they identify, and that child is still deserving of all the love and support in the world. I don't understand how ppl can tell others that they should conform to antiquated societal norms and be miserably unhappy just to make the ppl who hold those beliefs feel more comfortable. While progress on LGBTQIA+ issues/rights has been painfully slow, when I compare now to 30 yrs ago I can see so much improvement & that gives me hope that someday trans ppl won't have to live in fear, and that when ppl say they are gay, or bi, or aro/ace, or trans or NB, etc it is accepted as naturally as when ppl say they are cis- hetero.
Exactly smh. They act like we're force fully making them someone they're not, when it's just us trying to help them feel more themselves and be more comfortable in their skin.
its so weird to me that people always talk about 4 year olds and 6 year olds that don’t know anything. i guess i’m a trans kid, i’m still a minor. im 16. i’m supposed to start dating, decide on my career, i work, i drive, i’m seen as a young adult in every other way except my gender, of which i clearly must know nothing about
True. So many people simply refuse to view children as autonomous people, whether it's malicious or unintentional. Hence this overarching phenomenon of even well-meaning parents treating children like property.
I find it weird they think that 4 year olds and 6 year olds don't know anything. When I was 4 I used to say that I was a dog named Max, and even at four there was a clear difference in my mind between me and max the dog. I knew it was pretend, I knew I wasn't actually a dog, I knew Buddy the bee was an imaginary friend. I was 4 and was keenly aware of all of these things, but still found it fun to act out the scenarios and loudly express like I was talking to a real bee, (I was actually terrified of bees as a kid so idk why my best friend was one😖) because even at 4 years old I knew that bees couldn't literally talk. I guess from the outside looking in you could make the conclusion that me saying, "I am max the dog," could be me believing I was max the dog. But from the inside looking out, even as a 4 year old I would have probably been really upset to be talked down to like I actually believed I was a dog named Max. Also I would have been confused on why an adult was so stupid as to actually believe I was a dog, when EVEN I knew I was just playing pretend. I was 4 not stupid.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l I mean most people can't see other people as autonomous, that non-recognition just becomes the most acceptable and harmful with young people because they can't do many things by themselves yet. A good example of the non-recognition of people as autonomous human beings is I would say the way some, and even a lot of people exist, and comment about online creators. The difference between how kids and adults are categorized in people's minds, isn't about age, or genetics, the difference is in control. I mean a big part of redpill isn't seeing women as autonomous beings, they see women as objects that need to be controlled or else they get out of hand. (Per their view)
I especially hate when you hear that argument from other queer people. Like c'mon, you're telling me a teenager isn't old enough to process their own identity when we all had the very clear understanding that Halle Berry should be our wife in third grade despite being told we were supposed to like boys? Get real
I felt the same way about my gender at age 5 as I did at age 47. The only thing that changed in the intervening 42 years is that I learned the language to express how I felt, and I found the self-confidence to take how I felt seriously.
I’m a cisgender, heterosexual woman. I think that cisgender folks “figuring out” and trying to “cure” transgender people, and making laws to control them is wrong. I equate it to conservative white men making laws to control female bodies. Let people be who they are and support them for who they are.
In a way it has also reminded me of AutismSpeaks with a board not having autistic people on it deciding on some of the most horrible ways in campaigns and what not.
The section with Alex was the hardest part for me, because it was very similar to what I went through. I was 16 when my family brought me into the doctor because they were concerned the first thing I bought when I got my first job was a binder. When they learned any medical intervention had the possibility to make me unable to breastfeed (not have kids just breastfeeding) the conversation switched to "there are so many ways to be a girl. You just have low self esteem because you're a teenage girl. It will pass." The constant arguing drained me. I remember putting on a pink shirt one day and my mom was so happy she took photos and put them online explaining I was "done with being called young man". I went along with it, telling myself I was "just a different kind of girl". And I believed it...until I moved out at 23. Within 2 months of living on my own, I was out to friends. Within 5, I went to the doctor to get hrt. Within 8 months of moving out, I started hrt. I feel lucky I was able to move away and have the space I needed to realize I'd been lied to/was lying to myself. When I see Alex, I see someone who never got the opportunity to distance themselves far enough to get that crucial space. Alex may be a woman, but it doesn't feel like she really got to choose. She was pushed into it by everyone in her life and was never able to break away.
I’m so sorry your mother put her own feelings and desires ahead of her child, mine did as well. I’m glad you got out as I did - it doesn’t get easier, but it does get better 🩷
Alex's father is driving me crazy. Obviously, he would never accept having a trans kid, and you can't tell me that that didn't affect her. What would the harm have been for allowing Alex to cut her hair as short as she wanted and to go by male pronouns? If she's really a cisgender girl, then this would not have been right for her, and she would have stopped. I cannot tell Alex what her gender is. I would be interested to revisit her in the future to see. Her testimony in this movie sounds like the testimony of those "formerly gay men" who went through conversion therapy, and swore that they were heterosexual now.
@@Gdr59281. You can still have kids after getting bottom surgery 2. The detransition rate is under 0.5% 3. It wnt matter in four years, because they'll still be trans. It's been three years since I came out, and I'm still Nonbinary. Explain why in not writing in agony regretting my life and decisions? Also from your other comments, I can tell you'd rather have a dead child than a happy child. Hopefully you never have kids and don't subject them to your abuse. 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈❤️
@@Gdr5928 Statistically, they almost certainly would not. If a cisgender child explores their gender and even takes puberty blockers, then comes to the conclusion that they are actually cis, that's fine. Withholding this treatment to trans kids causes more harm than subjecting this treatment to kids who turn out to be cis.
I plan on writing my speech next quarter on anti-trans legislation and rhetoric explored through the five pillars of a certain G word I most likely cannot say - at least, assuming the school doesn’t flag me for doing so
Because they lost the fight against gays and lesbians and needed a new target. Prior to that, they lost the fight against African Americans and went to gays and lesbians as their new target. Prior to that, they lost the fight against various immigrants being accepted (especially concerning what groups are considered ‘white’) into society and went against African Americans as their new target. Etc, etc, etc… At least in the US, there has always been someone willing to say ‘Those people are different and it’s ruining your life!’ but they always lose the fight and have to find smaller and smaller groups to target. It’s an easy way into power, so long as you can scare enough people into handing you power without them realizing you’ve always been the monster in the room.
I wonder from the "80%" detransition kids were actually non-binary and just because they weren't a boy or girl they got counted as detransitioner - growing up I thought I was the opposite gender but then didn't feel comfortable like that but still didn't feel fully comfortable as my agab - I didn't know about non-binary identities until I was 30 because it wasn't something that was widely taught
There's a very good chance of that. That or they counted any kids who didn't follow up as detransitioners. Like nope, discontinuing care at a specific clinic doesn't mean they've detransitioned, they might have just moved. I saw a "study" once that counted anything less than a "full medical transition" as detransitioning. Can't afford surgery? Detransitioner. Didn't get breast implants because HRT did enough? Detransitioner. Had to stop hormones for health reasons? Detransitioner. Non-binary? Detransitioner.
It's actually simpler and more dishonest than that. Back in the day any form of gender non-comformity was interpreted as "gender confusion" or "gender distress" . This included being gay, liking the wrong colors, having opposite sex playmates etc.. A lot of parents took their kids to doctors over "Not being normal" and then - becuase a lot of those kids were just non comforming or gay- they grew up to be non comforming or gay adults. But some of the doctors clapped themselves on the back and claimed that they had saved a large portion of the the gender confused youth from going too far down the path of transness. It is a blatant category error that constantly gets weaponized against us.
Not an expert, but for what I could check, many people stop the progress of transition because they only need social or hormonal transition. Anything except full surgery transformation is normally considered detransition in many studies.
@@waffles3629The second one is the biggest methodological flaw in all of those "studies" Anyone that doesn't answer must have obviously detransitioned, and you know sometimes you just don't send them the follow up letters at all ;)
If my daughter wanted to call herself a cat, hissing and all, I'd let her. She's six. Why does it matter how she identifies as? My job is to love her and raise her. Like why are people who hell bent on not allowing their kids to be their most happy? They say nothing when girls reaffirm their girlhood or when boys reaffirm their boyhood but when a child expresses anything different than cishet parents act like the world is ending.
@@-enigma-8218 I heard about why thats the case, back in the great depression people ended up eating pet food and were getting ill from it, thats why now there are standards for human safety. Thats why you could eat it.
@vvitch-mist20 well *_their_* world is ending... They had this notion of getting an offspring that would be "just so" and fit in and look the part, and that's not happening anymore. Old-age plans/expectations came crashing down on their head, now they are trying to cope, and sadly they don't know any better. :-
@@neon17.08that's because they dump crap into pet food to be cheap. It was making the pets ill too, just nobody cared. Even in toys. There is no lead allowed to be used to make tennis balls...When sold for use by humans. Sell it for dogs and they have been found to contains large amounts that were found to be poisoning many dogs and making them ill. People didn't care about the animals health. It still happens, I remember when all those brands back in 2011 got recalled because they tried to dump shot into their foods and were making dogs doe of kidney failure after just one feeding. Then they tried to claim it was the factory fault. But this really doesn't have anything to do with the topic of conversation or even that person saying they ate pet food and was fine. The fact is, letting your kid pretend to be a pet isn't as bad as people like to make it seem. And that isn't even including that this still has zero to do with trans people.
Serious question: have you ever seen one of the Alpha Male dudes ever say anything positive? Usually they're tediously explaining why everyone's wrong and thumping their chests. I'm not sure if they fear joy or just like squashing it, but it's definitely a fixation.
Seeing the little girl, assumedly, in the beginning spinning around in her dresses and smiling made my heart feel so warm, she just seemed so happy. And she isn't on hormones or anything, and yet still seems to be so happy, I don't see why people want to prevent little kids from expressing themselves.
A trans girl in a spinny dress is one of the most pure forms of happiness that can ever be felt or witnessed 💜 I’ve seen my sister and my toddler both have the same level of joy in their dresses, and I’m not ashamed to say that it brings me to happy tears every time because of how absolutely euphoric the moment is for them. Any parent who can see their kid that happy and still make the conscious decision to stop their happiness because of “social expectations” and “gender norms” is disgustingly selfish and needs therapy.
It is vitally important that the child not be able to do that and be conformed into clothing an expectation expected of them simply because they had a penis when they popped out of their Mother..... otherwise, god forbid... they may grow up to have independent thought and feelings rather than enslaved to a series of societal standards.
I was a kid that loved "girlie" things: makeup, high heels, attracted to boys. I wasn't a tomboy at all. But I knew I was a boy. Because I wasn't gnc or a lesbian it took forever to realize my feelings of being a boy were legitimate and not just a mental illness. It literally took until I was an adult to realize I was a gay trans man. Gender identity, gender expression and sexual attraction are not necessarily tied together and so many of the people in this doc argue they are and because that reasoning so many kids claiming to be trans "are just incorrect about themselves". It's so frustrating.
Yeah, been there too, I remember one of the first things my dad asked me when I came out was "so you like boys? Because I don’t see the point of being a woman if you don’t" and I was like "lesbians?" and it was literally the first time I saw him accepting an error he made, it’s insane how often gender identity and sexuality are mixed up for no reason
Yep, it took me forever to realize I was trans, because I like women. For years, my feeling about my gender was, "I don't really feel like a man, but I know for sure that I like women, so... I guess I'm a man?" Trans lesbians didn't get much representation until really recently.
@@quisait5794 Almost the same thing happened with my dad. After I came out to him, the first thing he said was, "Wow, I had always thought that you liked women." And I said, "I do like women, Dad. I'm a lesbian!"
9:49 - Dude, it's not a new gender - they've been that gender the whole time, you're only hearing about it now that they know how to articulate it. It's not new, it's just new to you! I do love that even with all the misgendering in the film, Warner's mom still genders her correctly.
Yep. I'm non-binary, I've always been non-binary. But instead of knowing that as a kid, I just felt broken. Especially because whenever I tried to express my discomfort with my body I made fun of and mocked by the adults in my life.
@@waffles3629same!!! I've always felt like there was something wrong with me, because I never had the words to tell others how I was feeling. I was always nb, and I'm pretty sure I was also ND for most of not all of my childhood as well. I have been diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and I always knew that I was different because I was bullied. Some abuse I went through as a kid at home even worsen the bullying, and some of it even started the bullying. I had my head completely shaved as a kid for a "punishment" by my abusive father, and everyone asked about my gender. It never felt right saying I was a girl, and it felt horrible saying I was a boy. I knew I was neither, and never had the words to express myself until my late highschool years. I WISH I had figured this out sooner. It would've saved me so much confusion and pain.
@@Gdr5928 where'd you get small children? Oh right, your ass. I said kid, as in under 18. Are you telling me a 12 year old is too young to know they feel uncomfortable?
@stoplgbtmovement So sorry that the rising costs of energy have forced you to resort to flag burning in order to stay warm. Hope your situation gets better soon, honey.
Not only does it save syllables, it also affirms non-binary people and just works to refer to everybody. We already use singular they to refer to someone whose gender we don't know, it's well established. Just say they! It's SO much easier. Saying "he or she" instead is just cumbersome.
Some people say that if the gender is known about a person who is non-binary, using "They" in the singular sense is still gramatically incorrect. Then again, language evolves. @@DrTssha
Ms. Jamie, a female that suffers from multiple mental disorders, has mutilated breasts and an enlarged, deformed clitoris from taking cross-sex hormones she calls a penis. She has sex with her lesbian wife. OK to be gay but she is NOT a man. She is a female with facial hair. This is an echo chamber of dysfunction. So sad that kids get caught up in this and ruin their physical and mental health. Body mutilation is the trans Holy Grail.
Transphobe: I have only heard about this child from twentieth hand information, but i know more about who they are than themselves, their parents, and medical professionals.
Yeah it's such BS. Someone in the comments here is trying to insinuate that someone's OCS is making them obsess about gender. Like SMH y'all are stupid AF.
@stoplgbtmovement oh no I'm so triggered by your copypaste response that you still haven't bothered to fix the misspelling in despite spamming it everywhere you can.
When not even half an hour in Ray freaking Blanchard showed up I was readying myself that if they keep going in this direction with this speed the last interview will be with Josef Mengele's ghost or something
As a young child I channeled my dysphoria into jealousy by pretty much just telling myself that it wasn't fair that girls could wear dresses, shorts, pants, and skirts while boys could only wear shorts and pants. It wasn't until I got older around maybe like ten that I became aware of the term transgender and I was like, "Oh. So there are other people like me."
I was the opposite basically, hated pink, hated girly stuff, hated the body I had (didn't and still don't want the other binary option though), lived in the most androgynous clothes I could find like jeans and skate shoes. Only as I got older, stopped caring what others thought, I started embracing the entirety of who I am, which ironically now includes some pink and lots of dresses (and a LOT of androgynous clothing lol)
@@lwolfstar7618 I'm cis, but it took me at least 2 decades to realize that i can be tomboy-ish and still like pink and dolls. Going all-out on gender expectations is harmful to trans and cis people.
@@LittleMamaFeline fwiw I'm nonbinary, and couldn't understand why I had periods of body dysphoria until in my 20s when I learned trans men exist, but still discounted my own exp because mine was intermittent and I never wanted the other binary option so in my mind clearly wasnt the same and needed to just "deal with it" and keep living as though I was cis. I can only imagine the extra hell Id have gone through if Id come out to my family (they were extremely bigoted)
just something to say about the autism/gender disphoria thing - a lot of autistic people dont feel like the concept of binary gender makes sense for one reason or another, so they are much more likely than allistic people who do make sense of binary gender to be non comforming. i happen to be one of those autistics. autism could just be a somewhat explanation (i use that loosely, because just "autism" cannot be an exclusive argument) as to why some autistics are very confused by or against binary gender and then proceed to identify as something other than their gender assigned by that system.
As somebody who is autistic and not straight, it’s annoying to see people infantilize autistic people in terms of what we understand about ourselves. What’s also annoying is that it’s *new* research and said research has only a corollary relationship (while I do believe something similar to what you said, like maybe also being due to a higher amount of introspection and reflection in autistics).
@@bobaoriley1912 yep. Some places even use autism to deny people gender affirming care. Like "Oh, you're autistic? Well then you can't know if you're trans so screw you, no treatment".
Yep! I'm ND and nonbinary (anxiety and depression, professionally diagnosed) and I hate how they think it must be my depression or anxiety that makes me nonbinary, instead of me just being nonbinary all along, and depression and anxiety stemming from the abuse and bullying I had when I was a kid, and manifested in more extreme ways when i hit my highschool years. After I got help, I realized I was nonbinary, and I'm now living happier than I was when I thought I was cis.
How can they name it this and not see how it instantly ruins their own argument? "Transgender kids: who knows best?" Transgender kids. They just answered their own question before you even watch the video...
Literally. "Who knows what's best for trans youth? We side-eyed countless actual trans youth and asked 15 random parents and a struck-off practitioner..."
Transphobes argue way to much that "oh kids shouldn't know anything about trans without parents brainwashing them, they barely knows maths or know what career they want, how can a kid know what trans is?!" Like idk why they're making it so complicated on how a kid just knows who they are, transphobes just assume kids don't have a brain, transphobes don't either so I guess its a reflection mostly. Kids don't need to be thinking about what career they want until at least high school, and maths is mostly difficult cause its useless to most careers. Also kids don't need to know the word trans to understand that their identity is not inline with the one that their being raised with.
@@OfficerZlockLame. You wouldn't have to brag so much if it was true. Just make good content and let your viewers promote it. No need to beg if you are good.
I met a trans girl a few days ago. She has barley transitioned (literally just her pronouns and name with her friends) and she kept getting misgendered by a kid from her school so the kid had actually known her and me and one of my friends who had just met her there had managed to never misgender her Once you learn someone's pronouns just use them it's not hard I'm not expecting people to know if you see them on the street but if they tell you that you got them wrong just ask for the correct pronouns and name
To play devil's advocate, I'd imagine it's easy to slip up if you'd been interacting with and existing alongside the trans individual for a long time before they visibly affirmed their gender.
Like, yeah, absolutely. Adapting your language and using someone's pronouns isn't this monumental task Rightoids try to make it out to be -- It CAN be confusing and you might slip up from time to time, but 99% of people are gonna brush it off if it's obvious you're not intentionally being a prick.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l Yeah I know multiple people that did change their pronouns and names, and despite being trans myself I did occasionally slip up. Really it's not about never making a mistake (tho that is the ultimate goal), but it's about how you react when you realise your blunder/get corrected.
Bc bigots don’t want anyone to have nice things, that would make them realize how miserable they are. And then they might have to confront the idea that they might need to….. change themselves in some way 😬😬😬
I'm 24 and have been in the Boston Children's hospital gender clinic since I was 17. They refused to give me hormones until I was of legal age, but supported my social transition with mental healthcare. I think it's incredibly important to highlight that these doctors are doing everything they can to support us, and documentaries like this which leave out the facts are disheartening.
The way trans kids are talked about often reminds me very much of how autistic kids are talked about. I'm a cis autistic woman, and I see the parallels all the time. Autistic kids aren't trusted to know what they want either, there's a heavy focus on trying to get them to appear as "normal" as possible, and self-identity is largely frowned upon by allistic people. Autistic kids aren't allowed to say they're autistic, they have to say they "have autism" bc they're "not their disability" or w.e. The same stuff is spouted at us autistic adults as well. And if an autistic person identifies as autistic without a professional diagnosis, that's bad bc apparently, autistic people can't know ourselves and autism is seen as a bad thing so no-one can understand why on Earth we'd want to identify with it. The way trans people are constantly policed on how they express being trans just makes me think so much of how us autistic people are constantly being policed on how we express being autistic. And then, if trans kids want to do things typically associated with their assigned sex at birth, then that is suddenly viewed as a sign of them "desisting" and in a similar way, if an autistic person doesn't "act autistic enough," they can't possibly be autistic and are just lying for attention. Autism is also viewed as a mental illness when it isn't, same with being trans. The parallels are so, so striking to me. I also find it very interesting how autistic people are more likely to be trans. I would love to know why, but I don't want them to find a cause for autism bc it will inevitably lead to cures and aborting autistic foetuses, and I understand that a lot of trans people also are uninterested in finding a cause of being trans due to similar reasons. But purely just bc I find science fascinating, I would like to know what relates the two groups. I just wish knowing wouldn't come with consequences. Transphobes and ableists use the correlation to be more transphobic and ableist, and infantilise both autistic and trans people, including autistic and trans adults, to hell. We autistic people are not just oh so impressionable, the same goes for trans people. There's clearly smth that goes on in the brain's development to make both autistic and trans brains happen, but these people only care about using the correlation to further their bigotry. Me personally, I'm just a cis bi woman but many of my autistic friends are trans and I did question my gender once briefly when I was 15 bc of a silly dream where I had a p**** (trying to get past YT comment filters lol) but nothing else about me had changed in the dream, I still identified as a girl. I freaked out for a bit after waking up, but I quickly realised I am a woman, I love my body, I love people calling me she/her and my name. I wouldn't change it for the world. It was just a weird dream is all. This is in contrast to my parent, who is trans but has not transitioned (they have not transitioned at all, even with pronouns, so when discussing their situation online, I use they/them bc I don't know if they'd fully be comfortable with he/him but I also wants transmascs online to know I respect the community and people's identities) and is only out as a lesbian to most people (they don't mind me talking abt them anonymously online though, I did ask before), they have told me that they have dreamt from the POV of a man all their life. Like, fully a man, masc body, identity, everything. They've always known in their heart they were a man but they were born in 1958 and grew up poor af with no TV or anything. They didn't know what trans was until the 90s, and now they feel like they're too old to transition (I've tried to tell them abt the many older trans people I've seen who transitioned middle age or older but they still don't feel like they can, which I respect that, it's their choice and I don't wanna push). But yeah, my point is: I am autistic and yet fully cisgender and I know a lot abt the trans community, and yet, I have not been "swayed" lmao. Like they act like every autistic person just immediately identifies as trans the moment they see a trans person. I literally was raised by a trans person and I'm not trans lol. Autistic people are not just influenced by everything we see. They treat us like we're not even human with our own thoughts and feelings and I'm sick of it. And they treat trans kids the same too. Just awful "beliefs" all round. 😒 EDIT: Also forgot to add that the way autistic self-advocacy is talked about has striking similarities with the way trans self-advocacy is talked about as well. If we autistics self-advocate online, then we're "influencing teenagers to self-diagnose as autistic." If trans people self-advocate online, then they're "brainwashing children to think they're trans." It's so similar, it's honestly wild sometimes
@@Matty-man "For example, we dont allow children to drink alcohol, vote, join the military etc but we expect them to be able to consent to being sterilised?" You're right. Transphobes hate that kids have a saying it their sterilisation. That's why most of the transphobic laws have a clausure that allows parents to sterilise their kids if the kids are incapable of consent.
"If a child claims they are a dog, do you go out and get them dog food?" No but I might get them a cute dog ear headband because creativity is beautiful
When I was a preteen and questioning and pretty much still an egg, I used to stumble across these types of documentaries and videos and I would eat them all up, despite how terrible and unvalidating they felt, they made me really depressed. I was sure I could "bully" myself into being cis by watching people who didn't think I was real. Seeing someone like you go through this content in this day makes me feel so relieved and I wish the kid I was would've stumbled upon someone like you
Your comment made me cry because reading it out loud and seeing that I'm not the only one who did this makes me feel like I'm less alone in the world I just went to a mental health specialist today and said "I'm ready to live as myself now" It's scary and exhilirating and thank you for sharing your story here too
I’m at 10:00 and I genuinely am so BAFFLED at how anybody can see anything like this, kids living joyfully and authentically and safely, and think that has to stop. Like it breaks my brain and my heart.
@@Gdr5928you do know gender dysphoria dowsnt just "go away" if the actually have it, right? It's like how some people's depression doesn't just "go away". Also it's not gender distress, it's gender dysphoria, and it's a very serious diagnosis, kinda like suicidal thoughts and tendencies, which bigots like you so love to throw around out of context
@Gdr5928 I can fully understand and respect parents not wanting their children to have to deal with bigotry and hatred, honestly. But as the previous commenter, @ArtsyKnox25 says, it's not likely to just go away when they grow up, and dysphoria is super distressing to the point *children* have taken their lives due to it and due to not being able to live authentically. So which is worse, experiencing some bullies and bigots while living as your authentic among people who love you for that, or having to constantly suppress who you are in order to feel accepted and valued by anyone at all? I know which I'd choose.
@@Gdr5928 no, it didn’t. It was suppressed and hidden and people suffered in silence or ended their lives. It may have been marked down as “depression” instead of dysphoria because they didn’t feel safe to say so back then (see left handedness graph for example of this) but it very much *was* still a thing back then and didn’t, doesn’t, just go away. This has been proven by psychologists over years and years of trying to find the best way to manage this so *please* do not come here and pretend like you know better.
@Gdr5928 No, it didn't go away. People were just forced to hide it and suppress their emotions. Trans people don't grow out of anything - that's a lie that you've made up. Why do you think LGBT people have a horrible history with both physical and mental health outcomes despite affirmation being proven to do the opposite?
It hasn’t happened yet, but I just wanted to share that it’s a possibility that I could start T before 18 even though my parents are extremely transphobic. Basically, I came out to my doctor almost a year ago during a mental health thing I had, and I recently went back for an appointment for something else. Turns out, I might have endometriosis (very high change, my mom and my grandma both had it) and one of the treatments for it just happens to be testosterone. My doctor said that it was possible that I could start T soon for that, and although it would be a very low dose, it would make it significantly easier to get on a higher dose before I turn 18 depending on other things from my therapist and the gender clinician, who she offered to let me talk to at my next appointment in about a month. Very excited for that, it’s a long shot, but it’s not impossible.
@@duncanhewitt6557 Or maybe you should just trust op who is their child and not assume that the parents aren't being transphobic when you don't know them ❤
The "hypothetical" at 13:30 is so similar to the way my mother teased my cis brother about wanting a girl cause she had two "sons"; meanwhile, I knew it was a joke and didn't want her teasing coming my way if I voiced being trans, so I often played along with her teasing to get her approval despite knowing how my brother felt in an opposite manner when she took me shopping for boys clothing. She once teased him so hard at a department store forcing him to go down little girls aisles commenting how pretty he'd be, he was crying when we got to the car and felt safe to not breakdown in public. It was an awful memory for both of us.
Learning about trans people existing saved my life and I'm not exaggerating. If I hadn't learned about being nonbinary when I did, I would have ended it all. I never felt at home in my body and would cry because I knew my voice wouldn't sound the way I wanted it to once puberty hit. Puberty, of course, made my dysphoria so much worse, leading to me wanting to stop existing. Trans kids are real and a lot of us don't feel right in our bodies from a young age. Believe your kids when they say something feels wrong with their body. You wouldn't tell someone who's in physical pain to shut up and suppress it, right? Why is emotional pain any different?
@@quisait5794 Sad that trans folks behave in a cult-like way telling people they are going to kill themselves if the world does not accept their delusions. It is just a ploy to bully others.
@@Gdr5928 most PEOPLE generally feel pretty bad during puberty, but not every person who feels bad during puberty is trans, and not every trans person felt bad during puberty, logic leaps is what allows transphobia to strive, gender dysphoria is a really unique feeling that is vastly different from just the general stress coming from puberty, I can assure you
I grew up thinking i failed as a girl. That i was less then what i was supposed to be and strived to be something my mom wanted. I was always told to "be a better girl". I hated makeup, hated dresses, didnt like girly things. Years later i am fuming my parents forced me into a roll that caused me so much anxiety and depression for not "acting my gender".
@@ArtsyKnox25 Both are true. If my mom wasn't so hard on me being feminine, I would have been much happier and more comfortable. Trans or not, she didn't like the fact I was more masculine. Even when I was a kid or before I was trans. When I did eventually come out later in life. She couldn't understand and said "I'm a tomboy too but I never thought I was a guy." Not only was it rude but it completely missed the point. She even pushed my feminine sister to be her vision of a female which angered my sister as well. Some of what we encountered was sexual in nature too as a lot of importance was put on our bodies. The "we know our kids better" is a really dumb statement from people.
@@Gdr5928 And yet here you are, all over these comments telling trans people that they're doing their gender incorrectly. The hypocrisy is tangible with you.
I'm a white cis hetero man in a reletionship with a trans woman and she is The light of my life. I wish all these kids get The help they deserve and that their parents love them and support them enough to help Them find it.
This sounds similar to putting autistics in ABA "therapy", which is essentially attempting to "convert" neurodivergent kids into neurotypicals. It has only caused even more trauma in autistic kids, which is tragic as few autistics, diagnosed or undiagnosed the same, will be able to reach adulthood without cPTSD. Many adult autistics are advocating for autistic children that are not ours, when their parents refuse to listen to their children, claiming they dont know their own interests. Current autistic adults understand the consequences of maltreatment including ABA or refusing to discipline, how to treat others, or teach life skills, often setting them up to be targeted by incel groups, codependence on parent/enmeshment, &/or inability to function as an independent adult. We live it. Autistics also have a rather high suicide/homelessness rate 2/3 & many autistics are LGBTQIA, increasing their risk even more! It's already so hopeless for millennials & younger western society. I'm guessing trans have a decreased life expectation like autistics, where it's unlikely to live to see middle age, let alone a full life past retirement. As a chronic pain disabled person limited to opioids ( 2/3 autistic women have chronic pain & medication intolerance is common), its a similar issue with those who have developed OUD on opioids, blown out of proportion when less than 1% of chronic pain disabled on opioids ever develop OUD. Those who do can be easily predictable too, as 94.6% have previous substance abuse that has increased their addiction risks. They just as likely could have become addicted to gambling or shopping. Healthcare needs to stop being politicized. My body, my choice should apply to agreeing to extremely low risks of certain medications, so long as providers are transparent about potential risks. As for the trans autistic overlap, this guy, the psych dr, can go fuck himself. Autistics are more likely to be trans because we don't notice/absorb social pressures unless they are targeted (like the incel community targets autistic boys/men). Its also much easier to come out as LGBTQIA+ when you are already outcasted from society & have less to lose. Autistics generally are more authentically ourselves, more introspective than extrospective, leading us to explore different expressions of ourselves. We are also gonna get bullied one way or another, might as well feel more comfortable in our own bodies when we are. 🫤
You're correct about the life expectancy, (im only going on US statistics) based on recent studies its about a twice as likely suicide rate as cisgender individuals with the highest amount of deaths coming from teenagers or young adults. Though these numbers are much better than they used to be and have decreased with time due to the majority of people being either supportive or neutral about trans people in general, particularly in the newer generations.
YES to everything about how autism intersects with being trans / GNC / NB etc. There are plenty of logical explanations for the intersection if you just bother to understand autism.
Every time someone said they were uncomfortable giving their child the right medical care, I just wanted to ask. "Well when we you feel comfortable with the child? When their an adult and able to do it themselves and have no contact with you?" It's just making an experience that the child is having all about the parent. Why is a parents love always conditional.
Bc they selfishly assumed that their child would be exactly what they wanted when they had them, and had children for the express purpose of fulfilling their own desires. Just a bunch of shitty, miserable people passing on their garbage and misery to somebody else 😞 I still don’t get how my parents did that to me, or why any parents would bring a child into the world for that purpose.
@@Gdr5928it's hard to watch a parent encourage self harm instead of encouraging their child to get the medical health they need and transition rather then kill themselves. You're very contradictory. Do you want children to end their lives or do you want them to transition and live past 16?
@@Gdr5928 also, my parents abused me. Would you say they loved me unconditionally while they beat me with a belt and yelled and screamed at me for being in the way and pushing me away when I wanted to be close to them? I would say no, but I bet you'd say yes just because you think they'd be doing it "out of love", when it was out of malice and hatred.
@@electronics-girlI'm happy you had parents who supported you and loved you, but most of us aren't that lucky. I hope one day you can recognize that love isn't always unconditional and there will always be parents whose love is based on how many chores you do or how much you praise and care for them because they're too busy getting high on drugs, or leaving you in a super arkey alone because they were fighting with your other parent and would rather leave both of you there than not fight.
1:26:54 I never understood this thinking because its so much harder to come out as trans than to gay, esp nowadays. Samantha Lux even mentioned in a video a while ago that when she came out her mom said "can't you just be gay?" because she was worried about how difficult things would be for Samantha as a transwoman
It might take years for a parent to know how a child feels deep down, but thats only because it takes a kid that long to learn the language they need to express themselves. Also the really funny part is they keep going “there’s 40 clinics” like that’s a big number for 50 states.
@@Gdr5928 it’s not a social contagion because that’s not how social contagions work. Contagions are things like mob mentality, or group rehabilitation. Depression *might* be contagious, maybe, but the chemical changes in the brain are there, regardless of the cause. As for the growth in number of clinics, we’re just actually treating it now. The reason there are so few elder queer people is because they’re all dead, from murder, suicide or AIDS. The most effective treatment for gender dysphoria is transition. End of.
@@Gdr5928did you know shark attacks increase along with ice cream sales, are you gonna suggest ice creams cause shark attacks? And do I need to explain why your question is dumb as well?
@@Gdr5928because it's not a social contagion, and that is just wrong classification. You do know they took being LGBTQ off of the diagnosis in the 1970's, right?
@Gdr5928 There was also a period in relatively recent history where the use of seatbelts shot through the roof? Was that also a social contagion? What is it with you and mindlessly linking unrelated phenomena together?
@@Gdr5928You’re obviously wrong. You say wearing seatbelts isn’t hospitalizing kids, it’s *not* wearing seatbelts, and you’re metaphorically trying to stop people from getting seatbelts…
IMO if you don't agree with the gender affirming approach, you're saying that you're ok with transgender people being miserable and suicidal. Because there is no other approach that actually helps.
@@Gdr5928 I've known I was different in terms of gender since I was at least 4, and I came out three almost four years ago. I'm still nb. Before I came out, I planned to end my life. S tell me again how it's wrong?
Funny how these parents never stop to think "What have I done wrong that my child would rather tell their WHOLE school who they are but panic at the thought of telling me?" No. It is always "The school must be forced to tell me!" I know what kind of parents they are and the children should not be outed against their will. Btw, the phrasing of the one mother was interesting, too. It was something like "this is my child and I decide what it does". But yeah, trans people are only for children to be free to find out who they are while the "other side" wants to force them into boxes...
Yeah, my parents tried to force me to be a girl, when I told them at 5 years old that I was a boy. Ex- I wasn’t allowed to cut my hair shorter than my shoulders or pick clothes from the boys section. All it did was make it so I didn’t transition until I was 35. I’m not going to speculate at how it effected my mental health. Depression and anxiety disorders run in my family. We’re a pretty neurotic bunch without this adding to it.
Wow, are you me? That is verbatim what I went through, oh how fun :') it took a complete breakdown at 35 and lots of therapy for me to finally start coming out and, despite all the shit with my family, I've never been happier
This entire video has me about to slam my phone into the floor. Hearing the same debunked transphobic lies is so infuriating. Edit: alright I actually have to stop. I can't do it. When that one person's dad came on and starting talking about how uncomfortable _he_ was, and then his child acting obviously brainwashed... and then them citing the false desistance rates, and clearing being pro conversion therapy... I'm crying. I'm can't watch this anymore.
I’m so sorry, good on you for taking care of yourself. This stuff is incredibly difficult, please don’t force yourself. Truly wishing you the best in life 🩷
Yeah, that guy gave me the WORST feeling every time he showed up. He's so hostile towards his child's gender identity, and his child looks so uncomfortable.
You do understand that science proceeds through a process of discussing competing research and theories. I seriously doubt that anyone can speak with certainty about desistance rate given the increase in people identifying as trans. Also, theories aren't "debunked" because other investigators find different results. Had you continued to watch, you would have seen that the "brainwashed" woman turned out not to be trans.
One thing I want to bring attention to that Jamie hasn't mentioned yet as of 1:40:32 into the video is that the narrator is using a particular dog-whistle, saying that children are being transitioned rather than that they are transitioning. It is a subtle difference, yet a very important one that makes it seem as if the parents and medical and mental health care providers are driving the child's transition rather than it being child-driven. We see this a lot in the anti-trans discourse that often also dtaws in the "gr00mer" narrative. It is a tool they use to take away the child's autonomy and to frame supporting a trans child as being a form of abuse, when of course it's lack of support that is much more harmful to a trans child's mental health.
"I completely reject the allegation that I've ever practiced conversion therapy. I practice what I would call developmentally informed therapy." This sounds exactly like when mayor Eric Adams of NYC said he doesn't use solitary confinement, but rather "punitive segregation." You can give it whatever Orwellian rebranding you like, it's still the same exact thing. Studies have found both conversion therapy and solitary confinement to be tantamount to torture, so that should tell you where this quack is coming from.
Thank you for showing this video and for taking the time to explain the aspects of it. I've been to seminars hosted by Cheri Dinovo on behalf of my Pride Board to help the youth in my community cope with their identity and to show them that they are supported and we're there for them. Thank you for being you, and I've shared your video with my board members to view.
The same people who insist that a child can't know who they are at a young age are the same ones who will insist they ALWAYS knew they themselves were a boy/girl. They can't seem to get it through their heads that they didn't decide to be their AGAB when they were, say, five, so why do they think someone who knows their own gender at the same age is somehow confused or wrong? It's not quite the same, but I always knew I was a boy, and I was always fascinated by men since I was old enough to be notice. I didn't know what gay was but it was always there. Nobody "indoctrinated" me. In fact the indoctrination was all towards being straight. Your sexuality is built in. It's not that hard to figure out.
For real, I read that Blaire White (a "pick-me" conservative trans woman) said that she herself knew from childhood, and yet she still wants to stop kids from getting treatment.
First, the 98+% of the population that are cis people don't insist that we "ALWAYS knew they themselves were a boy/girl." We simply live our lives and develop sexually without experiencing any dysphoria. Trans people are claiming a "gender identity" that should be socially and legally accepted above their biological sex; moreover, many are claiming that their "gender identity" entitles them to any and all privileges and immunities accorded to people based on their biological sex. Trans people, such as Buck Angel and Blaire White , who simply live according to their gender identity, experience very little opposition from society at large. Dysphoria is a , more or less, private medical problem that an adult can resolve however he or she chooses. What has happened over the past few year is that the "trans community" has come to insist that society at large re-shapre itshelf to accommodate the self-identitfication of any trans peron, and all that that entails, as a politically signifIcant right. It is disingenuous to "insist" that debate of these social changes amount to transphobia whenever some one challenges or disagrees with the "lived experience" of any trans person.
Jamie sat through this entire video? Twice? I'm cis and tapped out within a couple of minutes. You can sense the overall bias in the opening sequence. Brexit was almost the exact opposite of what was promised, the Tories are actively trying to extract what little wealth the working classes have to give it to the already obscenely wealthy, and the country is generally going to sh-t. But never mind that, **you** should be concerned your kid might not conform to outdated societal norms. oh, no! What will the neighbors think?
Me seriously watching the video... Jamie "I think there is a big difference to being like 'Oh if I said yes to everything my child wanted, we'd have 5 puppies and 3 guinea pigs'..." That had me laughing because as kids my sister and I got three guinea pigs because we wanted them...been through a couple of generations now, even had 5 at some point...10 years later we still got three guinea pigs... Jamie's example being very specific 🤣
It needs to be said, learning about trans people isn't going to turn kids trans if they aren't already. If anything, it will make them more educated, and accepting of those who are different. The same is true for letting people question and explore their gender identity. Most of them will turn out to be cis all along, just based on statistics. They also tend to become the strongest trans allies, because they have a better idea of what trans people go through, and a better understanding of trans issues. This education, acceptance, and allyship, that's what the transphobes are actually opposing when they say we can't teach kids about trans people.
9:21 this person sounds like the old mentor thats kind of high all the time, gives cryptic lessons, but ends up being the reason the hero wins in the end despite the riddles
If my nonexistent kid wants to dress up as a dog, you know I'm supporting them in their endeavors. I might just introduce them to the concept of furries, people who like to dress up as anthropromorphic animals, and get them handpaws, tail, and ears to play with until they get bored, or not. There's no harm in letting them explore and experiment safely, but some people are not ready for that.
While the whole “I wanted to be [animal] when I was a kid…” argument is so much of a strawman that it could moonlight as a scarecrow, the funny thing is there is a lot crossover between being LGBTQIA+ and being a furry. So like a kid wanting to be an animal could be a precursor to being a furry.
therian here. ive wanted to be an animal since i was a young young kid. my parents supported me and let me buy some cheap partial fursuits after years of nagging and i grew up a little more.. and i still have them today, and ive since gotten much more which i wear regularly. my identity as an animal hasnt wavered but instead strengthened. i feel like my community needs much more positive attention and acceptance, since i hear a lot of people, even other trans people!! treating us the same way they were treated by transphobes... its very disheartening when my experience as transgender feels so similar and so real to my experience as a therian. also fyi since i learnt what the internet was i knew i was a furry, but after a little more digging and years of coming to terms with my own identity is when i figured out i was trans, and later figured out i was a therian... just like being trans, ive ALWAYS been a therian. just didnt always have the resources or terminology to understand i identify as such and now that i do im so much happier and more comfortable with myself (: now i hope to find allies everywhere i go
Re: autism and gender disphoria- high correlation, but it's because those of us with autism can often see societal rules and call them on their BS. We're more likely to be queer in our gender and sexuality, because we see through the veneer of what you're "supposed" to be. Autism doesn't CAUSE our queerness, autism causes us to RECOGNIZE our queerness. We were born autistic, and we were born queer. (And proud of both!!)
Agreed. I'm autigender, so i believe that my autism influences my gender. I didn't start questioning my gender until i began suspecting I'm autistic, and came out as non-binary shortly before i was diagnosed with ASD.
I didn't hear about the term transgender until I was in high school, maybe about year 10. I had a huge power struggle with my mother in year 9 when I did the World's Greatest Shave (fundraiser for Leukaemia Foundation) and suddenly found an intense joy in passing male. It continued for a full 6 months until one day, my mother had enough of it, took me to the hairdresser and told the lady "she wants to grow it out". Needless to say, we all knew I didn't want to, and while I theoretically could've kicked up a fuss, I was also all of 15 and would've been slapped silly before we even got home. It was probably the only time I ever cried while getting a haircut. Poor lady was stunned by a sobbing teenager asked me if I was okay. Fast forward 6 years and I did the Shave again, then also secretly got myself binders. Next year after that, started using the name Jamie as a safe trial name with some people. November that year, my mother sat me down and got really stuck into me about how I was presenting not even androgynous any more, but as masculine as I could. I felt forced to come out, so I did, but her reaction was a scoffed "no you're not" and threatening to report me to the police for using male toilets (I was regularly getting stares by then and almost got the cops called on me in Dubai). I don't know what she expected. A year later, my younger brother came out gay after constantly going to sleep over at a "friend's" place. My mother apparently wasn't surprised. I mean, I personally couldn't actually imagine him being with a girl. I'm 26, I've been living in my current house for around 23 years, and my only housemate is my biggest trigger. I also still look anywhere between the ages of 16 and 21.
Hate the possessive language and tone of "Parents rights" activists. "My Child" "My Child" "My Child" JFC, would it kill them to acknowledge their kids as human beings and not pets?
I get it that a grifter, or some other random psychopath would say something like "If a child identifies as a dog, would you buy them dogfood?", but for someone who claims to be an authority in the field of child psychology? I'm sorry, but did you get your degree in the university of Kellog's Rice Crispies one morning, or something? That's literally just a modified Apache attack helicopter joke, no difference between the two. How on Earth is this guy a licensed psychiatrist? His license should be shelved similarily like with Jordan Peterson. Just a freaking John Money 2.0, absolutely demonic. Every single time ANY form of conversion therapy has been attempted, it has failed 100% of the time. I'm happy Zucker got fired, but honestly his entire license to practice should've been also revoked.
Growing up my habits and behaviours were explained away in a number of ways. I grew up amongst a great number of male cousins. My sister and I were the only two "females" in the group for a good 10 years before younger girl cousins, so my always wanting to play with my male cousins was seen as par for the course because there WAS no one else at our family gatherings. Second my sister (the oldest of my two siblings and I, we had a brother between us and I am the youngest) was extremely girly and family dynamics encouraged me to veer as far from my sister's behaviour as I could. I was also very much a tomboy and had to be taught be friends how to behave in a feminine manner in my 20s! I also grew up fairly sheltered in a Catholic family, so imagine my surprise to find out that Trans people exist, and that I wasn't "a girl missing some parts" but an Intersex individual and more firmly aligned to the masculine side of the gender spectrum. Was an interesting year that one.
Jamie, thank you so much for your channel and videos, I came out as a trans guy in April and without your videos I probably wouldn't have had the strength to accept my self as trans, let alone tell my family and friends. you really helped me and most likely so many others feel comfortable about who they are and I cant thank you enough. I'm 19 and waiting for my first appointment and hoping to start T in a few months, love you and your videos! Stay strong and true to yourselves everyone! ❤❤❤
@@OfficerZlock Sick that people want young people to suffer from mental disorders, spend a lifetime taking cross-sex hormones to maintain an impersonation and worse having their bodies mutilated under the delusion that they can change their sex. Miss Jamdoger is an example of what NOT to do.
I'm 30 and finally able to start going through transition. I wish I was able to do more sooner and I hate how difficult it is made even for adults. Even now I'm fighting to get top surgery and its horrible how many doctors are against treating people even for just being trans
The enlightened centrist: "A person mad at something they made up in their own mind and a person who obviously exists... I can't tell which is right!!!"
35:19 Made me tear up, in a good way. That's exactly how it is. I'm a trans man, and it always felt performative trying to be a girl when I was a kid. It just felt like too much, even when I was a preteen and gave up trying to be a girly girl and considered myself a tomboy, it still felt like work. THAT'S what felt like passing - not trying to "pass" as a man once I figured myself out. (Though these days having a beard helps!)
@@Gdr5928 Not at all! Everyone thinks about how they're perceived; I don't imagine me deciding on a haircut or what shirt I want to wear out today is any different from how a cis man might make those decisions. I don't have to think about how I talk or act because it's just how I am. Edit: Ok so from other replies I see now that this person is just being a dick in a ton of other replies, so this was not a genuine question. My point still stands, though.
@@Gdr5928are you actually trying to learn from us, or just trying to use whatever we tell you as a weapon t further your hatred? I genuinely cannot tell. Someone of your comments are transphobic, them there are some that are supportive. Which one is it now?
@@Gdr5928 Believe it or not, but the biggest burden of doing those things fall on trans people who are being forced to mask Don't pretend like you care about LGBT people
@@Arcane_Archerthat's exactly how you should respond to comments like that. Be polite, genuine and provide a thoughtful reply. If they're just being misunderstood then they've received a proper reply instead of attitude, but if they're trolling then you've refused to take the bait. Perfect 👌
i dream of having accepting parents cuz i dont feel safe to come out and it is unfortunately taking a bigger and bigger toll on me and my mental health and im, to put it really the only way i can, slowly loosing myself and im having to literally write down how i feel, what i like, etc cuz i feel like if i didn't i would forget who i am idk how to say it but i hate my 'family', need a new family, and just need help and support in general but i haven't the slightest clue on what to do....
I can’t believe a psychologist just compared a trans kid to a hypothetical fictional kid saying he’s a dog, I really can’t 🫥 I expect to psychologist to know better. And thinking that he had more than 100 kid patients… I feel so bad for them. The governments should take the licenses of these people and I’m glad they did with him.
Right? And the idea that a kid feeling for years that they're the wrong gender is in any way equivalent to a kid who wants to play puppies for an afternoon is wild to me!
@ville2_if you have to brag about how good you are, you aren't as good as you think you are. If you truly were as good as you said you were, your subs and viewers would do it for you. But it's clear your just trying to belittle someone you're jealous of. This behaviour isn't going to get you views or subs, its only going to make people think youre a jealous asshole.
I have always wondered why is it that they always see and treat trans men as CHILDREN when they are well into their 20s and 30s and then see and treat trans girls as GROWN MEN when they are 13 barely a teenager.
That's because transphobes see trans men as misguided brainwashed women that need saving and they see trans women as predators who willingly chose transition to conceal themselves from cis women It's both misogyny and misandry at the same time combined with a willful ignorance of what being transgender actually is
it’s textbook sexism, you see. they see trans men as “silly girls” because they’re misogynistic clowns, and they see trans women as “perverts and threats” because they believe that’s not how “men” should act.
I was awestruck by that parent who was "terrified" of a red dress. Cis-het people, especially transphobes, are the ones reinforcing gender stereotypes. It's my trans and non-binary friends who give me (cis-lesbian) gender euphoria - there are an infinite number of ways to express gender. One point about the statistic (sources?) mentioned in passing by the documentary narration - about a huge uptake in accessing gender-affirming care for kids in the UK: Ireland passed the self-identity law in 2015, but our young trans citizens have been travelling abroad for gender-affirming care, particularly to the UK. Many trans people here have had to go further afield since the Tavestock centre closed. So it's highly likely that a lot of people accessing those services in the UK are forced to travel to get the right care. Another thought - I know, three in one day! - the pathologisation of gender dysphoria as a mental health condition is precisely what gives the non-trans medical professionals license to decide what's best for trans people. It's the same when you're disabled or chronically ill - something our communities share, and an area of huge intersection too. Thank you as ever, Jamie!
The whole “kids say they’re dogs” thing irritates me to no end. I was a kid with a very vivid and active imagination. I pretended to be many things but if my parents told me “you’re not a dog” my response was something along the line of “I know I’m just playing jeez”. However, I have clear, distinct, awful memories that still cause a visceral response in me to the times people directly or indirectly told me I wasn’t a boy. I knew the difference between pretending/imagination and who I WAS as a person. To say children don’t know the difference is to underestimate them in a horrible way and can cause real harm. Yes a person’s sense of self will change and become more complex with age but that does not negate the fact that kids DO have a sense of who they are and a lot of that sticks into adulthood. People just don’t question it when all of those aspects are what society deems “normal”. It’s only questioned when the kid is saying they are something that goes against those societal expectations.
That story about the childs drawing reminds me of something that happened when I was about 8 or 9. We had to draw our future self in school and I drew a person with long hair and no boobs. My teacher tried to convince me to draw boobs cause "I'm gonna be a woman and well I'm gonna have boobs" (it's kinda weird that she was so fixated on me drawing the boobs but ok). And when I refused multiple times cause I just didn't want to, she called my parents. (I was super shy and I'm surprised I didn't just do what she wanted) My parents were just confused why the teacher made such a big deal out of it. It's not that deep. Well I'm a trans man but I didn't know that back then. It was just a drawing and I felt so bad and ashamed because of my teacher's reaction, I didn't understand what I did wrong and why she got mad about my drawing. My parents were fine when I just told them I didn't feel like drawing the damn boobs on myself.
Way back in the early-70s in the US, there was a special called "Free to Be You and Me" and there was a story called "William's Doll." They didn't say he was transgender or even gay, but a boy wanting a doll in the early 70s was "GASP! THE HORROR!" Kids at school and his big brother made fun of him "A doll! A doll! William wants a doll!" and his parents got him traditional "boy toys" for his birthday. He liked them, but still wanted a doll. Grandma came over and gave him a doll, which he loved. Dad wasn't happy, but grandma said it would teach him to be a good dad someday. So the ending could have been stronger but for 1973 it was great. That's it. THAT was the controversial thing. A cis boy wanted a doll - so a bit of gender non-conformity in William's desire for a toy that was "for girls" - 50 years ago. Back then, when it was made into a TV special, ABC wanted Marlo Thomas (the creator) to cut that segment, fearing it would "turn boys homosexual." She refused, and it went into the special. It used to play every year on TV, when that was still a thing, and I saw it in school even through junior high (12 - 13 year old kids). I loved the whole show and always cried for William until he got his doll. Weird the things you still remember when you're old. I just found out that they showed it in schools partly as a way to see if teachers could unlearn their internalized sexism in teaching, and expectations about what girls and boys were supposed to want and to be "good at." So if you want to come right down to it, a boy wanting a doll and that being okay *IS* traditional values. P.S. Progress report: At age 55, as someone who "just discovered" she's a cis bi-romantic Ace, I've started having dreams with romantic feelings about women. They're not sexual, but they feel very natural and they make me happy.
I saw a live version of that show as a child! I think little things like this helped a generation of parents to better accept their children. That’s part of what the backlash is about-a number of parents refusing to enforce the old toxic ways.
Gotta love seeing people constantly complaining about parents helping their children by giving them the care they need. Especially since this process takes a LONG time to get approved for, you have to see a psychiatrist, physicians, endocrinologists just to start hormones. processes that are long and costly (especially in the US). Surgeries that require you to be 18+ with approval from doctors. Something thats so heavily regulated by countless requirements, something that posseses proven psychological benefits, instead of complaining about an ACTUAL problem.... Like Vaping and Smoking, those have no benefits... not even for pain and yet they're everywhere and teens can get them anywhere from gas stations to Walmart easy peasy not to mention those cause irreversible damage to a persons lungs, yet people dont complain about that as much as they do the existence of people that has been proven by science. Trans people aren't grooming children, hell the Catholic Church has done that infinitely more in multiple ways. Trans people just want to live their lives, that includes trans kids who want to be who they are, stop the cycle of prejudice and go through the proper impartial channels for this kind of care if they get that care they'll be less likely to make an uniformed decision on their own in the future.
Just an FYI- Kenneth Zucker has lost his job, been disciplined by the College, and is no longer counselling clients. He is not welcomed into any but the most extreme Christian national stuff.
Sucker(what autocorrect wanted to call Zucker) is literally saying “I tried to make them not be trans” which is exactly what torture…erhm…conversion therapy is, so while he may not want to admit it(perfectly understandable), that’s what he did
I always felt something off as a kid. I legit thought every girl goes through a phase. where they want body hair and a beard. Iv also always hated my chest even when i was little i tried not to wear a shirt. Also remember feeling like a gay man when i felt feminine never like a women. I knew just didn't have the vocabulary for it at the time.
@@Gdr5928not to the point where they want to be a different gender and want surgery. It's called being trans, and it's very normal it be trans. Stop insinuating it to being a phase when it's not.
As a minor underneath the GNC/trans umbrella, this terrified and angered me all at once. I live in a more conservative state and may be moving to an even more conservative state soon and this kind of misinformation terrifies me and i find it so fucked up that a minor needs to worry about their safety for just existing
I’m so sorry, it breaks my heart that you may very well experience that bc people are the worst. Please keep trying to be yourself in whatever way you can 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷
In the US puberty blockers are also often used for disabled children who need full care assistance because it’s easier to get those approved by insurance then it is to get lifts and equipment or in-home help approved. This is extremely unethical, and they are often kept on them long enough to damage their bones entirely, and then females are often put on the Depo shot directly after that, which then causes more damage, especially for someone who is nonweightbearing. If people wanna be upset about puberty blockers, they should be upset about this not people using them appropriately and safely to treat a medical need.
A lot of this video is "They're not following the stereotype, le gasp, they must be infected with the trans! How do we fix this?" Thank you for the long video, Jamie. I would never have enjoyed watching this myself, but with you here, it's far more tolerable! And really helped me get through the morning without excessive boredom!
I think my mom (who is a lil transphobic at times) says it best. "I would have you change who you are a thousand times to make sure you are happy, than to write a thousand words at your funeral for ignoring it." And hearing that from her. Just kinda made me cry knowing that she can be insensitive sometimes, but way down she wants me to be happy with who i am.
"If I let my kids do everything they wanted, there would be Pokemon posters everywhere!" Yeah, but does not hanging up those Pokemon posters stop them from liking Pokemon? No? They still love the games and ask for the new ones for Christmas and birthdays? They still watch the show and the movies? Huh... its almost like stifling your child doesn't actually change who they are. Which means not accepting your trans child and forcing them to pretend to be their assigned gender doesn't stop them being trans 🤯
Not hanging up Pokeman posters everywhere might help the child to learn to respect other people's needs and desires. It might lead a child to recognize that his or her "internal reality" alone doesn't create a "right".
by a quick google search, nose jobs have a 20%ish regret rate, knee replacement has somewhere within 6-30%, gender afferming has a regret rate of 1%. How is this not talked about more.
I'm so happy for that girl who transitioned in the most ideal way, they STILL won't let me talk about bottom surgery here in Cali and I'm damn near 17- but I have top surgery refered! Still no date, I have my consultation this next spring
I LOVED this length of video, Jamie. The in depth talks, I just love it when you get more serious like this. You’re very good at explaining facts in a respectful way
When I was 4, I made up this cat character I roleplayed as in my head. He was male, while I was assigned female at birth. This character helped me understand that I'm a boy actually. Yes, I did want to live as this cat, or more so as this character, because I didn't have any other idea on how to express my identity. There is no such thing as transgender care for children in my country, there is and was no such thing as affirmative care. And transgender people were always just seen as a joke. Even though we have a transgender woman in our parlament, people still joke about her and misgender her and teach their kids that "hey, look, this dude dresses up as a woman lol isn't this hilarious?"
I think I’ve heard this referred to as a coping mechanism for the mind when it knows it is adverse with its surroundings. It’s a natural phenomenon, but right wing radicalizes kids to leverage their conformity agenda.
Speaking as a detransitioner- I HATE how my experience is always being weaponized against trans people. I never got on hormones because guess what? The therapy that was part of my affirmation WORKED and we were able to pinpoint that my hatred for my body came from my extreme period symptoms. The process can be life saving for both trans AND non trans people.
@@WinstonSealPhD The actual child abuse is still allowing trans children to commit suicide when we’ve found a way that drastically reduces this. What do you propose be done instead? Because decades of study have shown that conversion therapy *doesn’t work* and actually worsens these children’s conditions. So yeah, if you can somehow tell me the magic, scientifically proven cure-all for gender dysphoria that I’ve never heard of before, I’d love to hear it. Because as far as I and the vast majority of studies show, transition is the only way that’s been found to alleviate this.
Also, I feel like you didn’t even read my comment because I said that the medical system helped me recognize transitioning wasn’t right for me and didn’t just put me on hormones, even though I was an adult at the time. Doctors don’t just put you on puberty blockers or hormones just because you ask for them- there’s a really in depth process they go through to figure out whether you’re actually dysphoric or not and all of the factors of your past are considered in whether or not you get diagnosed.
@@WinstonSealPhDNo ones being conditioned, whoever you’re referring to already felt that way and you’re in denial.
@@ThatFont 100%! The evidence speaks for itself.
@@ThatFont Sad that you have to lie but then you live a life meant to deceive mostly yourself. Your agenda is littered with abuses. More pseudoscience from the trans bullies. This agenda is littered with ABUSE. Pediatric clinics across the globe have noted exponentially higher rates of preexisting mental health and neurodevelopmental diagnoses among young people requesting gender identity services. Yet it was found that for parents who knew the content of their child’s evaluation, 71.6% reported that the clinician did NOT explore issues of mental health, previous trauma, or any alternative causes of gender dysphoria before proceeding and 70.0% report that the clinician did not request any medical records before proceeding.
Met a detrans person a while ago. She were invited to speak at our LGBT history month dinner. She expressed that she was on testosterone for a couple months and realized she didn’t like the degree of masculinity that it was bringing, and she felt more comfortable in a fem/nb state. She didn’t regret taking T and was ok with the masculinized voice she got, since she didn’t want to stop until other things started.
She expressed that she had been told trans people would hate her and reject her. She said that didn’t happen at all. She got just as much applause as everyone else at the end of her speech.
"who knows what's best for trans people? we asked a bunch of cis people"
- pretty much every transphobe ever
Yeah I’m pretty sure that history told us that one group deciding for a minority never ended well
@@Gdr5928The difference between trans people and a cult is
1. There isn't one person who defines how everyone thinks
2. Debate is allowed and encouraged
3. Transness isn't the only thing a trans person can be
4. Being trans doesn't mean you can't talk to Cis people
Christianity is closer to a cult than trans people are. Being against trans people is closer to a cult than supporting trans people. Even then we should support people on their beliefs if it doesn't hurt anyone or themselves. And continue to question everything rather than trusting old data that had bias from the beginning. Question even current research. Just, be kind to everyone. Even cult members. They're as much of victims as people who go to conversion therapy.
@@Gdr5928 this isint a great comparison, and is also false. Bigots always ALWAYS ask the opposite of the minority the want to study. ALWAYS. If you say "nuh uh they don't" you're just as bad as them or worse.
@@Gdr5928also it's not "trans identifying" they ARE trans. They aren't "identifying" as anything. They are what they say they are, end of story. You wouldn't call someone who has schizophrenia "schizophrenia identifying" would you? 1. That's sounds stupid, as well as "trans identifying" 2. You should never reduce anyone to what they seem to be, even if it it's apart of themselves, 3. Stop being abelist and a bigot.
@@Gdr5928 false
I find the "If they say they're a dog..." line of argument so funny because as kid I did once decide to be a dog called Peter, no idea why because I didn't even like dogs as a kid, but my parents' response was to let me eat from a bowl on the floor, let me curl up under a dog house made from cardboard and even got the nursery school staff to call me Peter and play along. Obviously nobody acted like this was a permanent thing or expected it to be, and it wasn't, but it was harmless to play along and let me use a different name. I see no reason to fear letting a child use a name and try out social transition because it'll either be play and they'll stop long before any medical treatment would happen, or it's not play and they get to live as themself sooner.
You're telling me you didn't die instantly after being allowed to play? Nah, I heard from someone who got fired from their job that that kills kids.
If a female can pretend to be a male or vice versa, why can’t she also claim to be non-human? Such a relativistic conclusion is regretfully here: it's called trans-species -- also know as furries or otherkins. People with Species Identity Disorder consider themselves non-human and are featured at homosexual parades. The arguments used by the trans-species movement to question their human status are essentially the same as those of the transgender movement.
@@WinstonSealPhD Because there's no recognised social and health benefit to acknowledging people as non-human. There is when we acknowledge that a person might not be the gender you'd assume they are. Cut the false equivalences.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l Your psychobabble is typical. Conditioning children to believe the absurdity that they or anyone could be “born into the wrong body,” and that a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse. Affirming gender dysphoria via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to “gender clinics” where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs. This, in turn, virtually ensures that they will “choose” a lifetime of sterility, toxic cross-sex hormones, and likely consider unnecessary surgical mutilation of their healthy body parts as young adults.
@@WinstonSealPhD
Interesting that people have to tell kids for kids ro want something.
I was never told about mastectomys as a child but before I grew breasts I knew I wanted it, still do, I hate having these useless fat bags.
Don't even claim that they're healthy, they're not, not when they make me hate myself.
"My child clearly states she's a girl, perceives herself as a girl, and is most comfortable in this world presenting as a girl. So this is about me, right? Has to be about me. It's all about me".
"I was faced with the unthinkable: treating my child with basic respect and decency. And like hell was I going to do that! So I devoted my entire life to promoting conversion therapy!"
@Gdr5928 For the last time - the existence of similar-appearing phenomena doesn't invalidate the other. This isn't even remotely Munchausen - no one is pretending to be unsettled with their gender.
Literally, Münchhausen Syndrome by proxy.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9lMisusing terms they don't properly understand seems to be @Gdr5928's entire shtick unfortunately, they've been doing it all over the comments on this video.
@stoplgbtmovement congrats to a 7y,o, who learned to type (you)
Mumbling “themself” underneath him saying “himself or herself” is such a mood man. I had a teacher that wouldn’t accept a singular they/them and it was the most annoying thing ever. He got fired 3/4 of the way through the year for being a god awful teacher and I couldn’t have been happier :)
In my head I can hear One Topic responding to this ‘Lol. Get wrecked.’
I had a teacher who had a relationship with a teenager, all the way up to when she turned 18 starting at 14. He was like....27. He still works there, everyone is fine with this. Like...wtf?
@@FuzzyGeckosee its okay because it's considered straight. And even more so because the adult in the situation is a man.
A teacher not accepting proper grammar is crazy! I had a biology teacher tell us that intersex people didn’t exist, but a good amount of my classmates were my close friends who knew I was an intersex man. We called him out on being factually incorrect and he went “okay, well, tell me when you’ve ever seen a REAL intersex person”. Half of the class pointed to me, and he went white and never brought it up again.
@insertianameia2224 ya but usually you only hear people being ok with older ladys messing with underage boys. The whole thing confuses me
the lefthanded graph is so important and so many people just write it off. It explains the rise in queer people, but also in people with adhd, autism, chronic illnesses, and more.
Shocking how once we stop stigmatising and abusing people, there are more of them in public.
Its not new, its just getting diagnosed.
the rise in chronic illness can also be explained by our society being such a miserable soul-destroying shit slog. good luck getting out of this WITHOUT a chronic illness of some kind.
I'm honestly amazed these kinds of hateful prats haven't brought back hatred for left-handedness.
@@dietotakuIndeed.
Saying depression causes gender dysphoria is like saying cancer causes smoking.
It's like if someone was doing an investigation on a crime scene and came to the conclusion that the stab wounds were caused by the victim's death. There is correlation and there is causation, but it's been pieced together the wrong way.
im taking this lol
Very true. A few weeks ago I talked with a therapist specialized in trans identity for the first time and she told me that I need to be in a mentally stable state to start all that. I'm frustrated that I'll never be able to get a mastectomy...
@@tami7992so if I’m depressed and have bad anxiety which is made worse by my body, they will just say I have to be mentally stable first? Because I feel like the surgery would make me closer to being mentally stable
I am stealing this one lol
I was born in 1956, Female at birth. My entire life I felt totally off, not liking anything about being a girl, not liking anything about me, and had no idea why. by the time I was a teen I felt totally like a boy and wondered if God had made a mistake making my body a girl's. I did grow up in a very strict home and would have never been able to Transition even if I knew what Transitioning was. After both my parents died I started my medical transition. I am now 66.75 and when I see me in the mirror I am elated. I have been a Happy Trans Man since 2018 (at 61). I have never been Gay, no longer depressed, did not desist, absolutely love my new name, and am enjoying living as the man I was BORN AS.
I am so incredibly happy that you’re finally living as yourself!! I could not imagine the amount of stress feeling stuck for so long, and it’s truly wonderful that you’ve made it to where you are today 💖💖💖
As another trans male, I am so happy you got what you needed, even if it was later in your life. ♥︎
I have a good friend of mine that is like my dad, he is also a trans man of 54 years old and he help me as that person i never had for telling me i am okey just the away i am and i am a real man and teaching me how to get better and start my transition ,he also have your experience, that's why is so important for us to still fighting, because you should deserve to look and be just the away you always have been since the beginning ♥️, and not pretend and have a bad and sad life, a life you never enjoy, I appreciate you because thanks to strong and brave mans as you boys like me maybe can have a better life, and i hope the ones that will come have one even better than our ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
(And sorry for my bad english)
Thank you for sharing. This makes me so happy! I suspect a cousin born in 1916 may have wanted to live as a woman (based on some of our conversations and his cross dressing) , but never did. I wish I'd known more about the trans community when he was still alive as I would have supported him if he wanted to more fully explore that identity. I DID offer to make him some dresses, but since we lived on opposite sides of the country, that never happened.
Love that for you! It's never too late to live as the person you are!
I love how the nice Canadian lady is like "So this is just some basic human rights stuff for trans people" and they could have just... Stopped there.
@@chrisbfreelance On which part of planet Earth is that???
@@chrisbfreelance This is like saying that black people have all the same rights as white people and thus racism doesn’t exist. Trans people are a special group facing targeted discrimination that often isn’t protected by law, you can’t lose your job for being cis or heterosexual, but it can certainly happen for gay or trans people.
@@chrisbfreelance I had to leave my job after that because I was asked by my superiors to "keep being a boy" which resulted in months of psychological distress (pretending I was something I’m not), I also personally know a trans woman who’s been fired for being trans, trying to sue those companies often result in nothing, workplace discrimination on a trans basis is very much real, the same way that workplace discrimination also affects black people, gay people, etc, it’s very much still a thing experienced by a lot of people
@@chrisbfreelanceno they don't. They can't get affirming care, they get murdered for being LGBTQ, they can't do what makes them comfortable without being harassed, I could go on and on. If you say "nu-uh" you're dense and a bigot.
@@chrisbfreelance I've been fired for being trans. I live in an at-will employment state and it's very difficult to dispute wrongful termination of any kind here, especially without thorough documentation. So yeah, there are clear cut examples of trans people losing out on basic rights. Especially in the US
I went through conversion therapy. It changed me on a fundamental level, but didn't "cure" my trans identity....it just shoved me in a closet for 30 years before I found the strength to come out.
Luckily, I've built a family of people who are kind, amazing and supportive. I still deal with the things I was taught back then, but I'm getting better.
PLEASE don't do this to your children. Just listen to them and talk to a professional who follows the prescribed and accepted standards of care.
Glad you made it this far
So glad you were able to finally come out despite your hurdles. Welcome friend! ❤️🏳️⚧️❤
Even the guy who invented it has come out as gay and said that his “therapy” was abuse
I’m so sorry, friend. I’m glad you found yourself and I’m glad you found a family to support you.
A comment that a mother of a trans child made recently on tik tok and it is a shining example of how parents should be with Trans kids. "I would rather my child change their name 100 times than have to write my child's obituary" like does more need saying than that.
Yep, like it's a name, aka the collection of sounds you use to get someone's attention. It's not the end of the world.
@@Gdr5928actually, suicide rates are directly increased by people like you. We have studies in this, Karen.
@@Gdr5928 Funny how the apparent stat goes from 41% to about 0.1% whenever it's convenient to the nonsense you wish to parrot in the moment.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l yep, apparently we either commit at the drop of a hat, or we never do. Just flip a coin to see which one they'll do this time.
@@Gdr5928 "Yes, it’s a false claim that a trans identifying child will almost certainly commit suicide if not affirmed. It’s just a lie."
Here's the reality:
After adjusting for demographic and potential confounding variables, childhood social transition was associated with lower odds of lifetime marijuana use (adjusted odds ratio .7, 95% confidence interval = .5-.8, p < .0001) when compared with adult social transition. Before adjusting for K-12 harassment based on gender identity, adolescent social transition was associated with adverse mental health outcomes, including greater odds of lifetime suicide attempts when compared with adult social transition (adjusted odds ratio 1.3, 95% confidence interval = 1.1-1.7, p = .004). These associations were no longer significant after further adjusting for K-12 harassment.
Source: Timing of Social Transition for Transgender and Gender Diverse Youth, K-12 Harassment, and Adult Mental Health Outcomes
I just can’t understand why if we accept a child saying they’re cisgender or heterosexual, we can’t do the same for a child saying they’re transgender or gay
Because that would undercut the parent's ownership of their children...
You clearly see it in that one parent who was so angry with his kid that he really does think of the child as property... What a lovely society
They need kids to grow up to be cishet, so they can have children of their own who can be sent off to war, or to work themselves to the bone. In their minds, LGBTQ+ people don't reproduce, so we're a threat to that paradigm.
@@ajitadonismanilal9105 I mean, some are, but some are not. Speaking as a heteroromantic asexual (aka straight ace) cis man.
@insu_na something I thought of based on Jamie's recent react on Boy!Moms is how much of an overlap there seems to be between them and TERFs. So much of their identity is tied up in being the mother of boys that it terrifies that could be taken away from them.
It’s just a lack of education or a refusal to acknowledge fact. I think that may be why there’s such an overlap in this sort of rhetoric and certain religions. Utah is a good example- a lot of people here are very racist, transphobic and homophobic. They’re usually also very mormon and anti-science. I can’t even count the amount of times I’ve heard them claim that teaching science, history and biology in schools is “indoctrination into the liberal agenda”. No, Karen, it’s just how the world is outside of your church. Soooo sorry that facts back up the existence and equalities of LGBT people and POC.
if i had known about trans kids (or even trans people in general) growing up, i wouldn't have spent so many years wondering what was "wrong" with me or why i felt so horrible about my gender.
the idea of other young trans people being forced to go through that same experience upsets me to the core.
Same❤ I wasn't able to figure myself out until I was thirty and a lot of trauma comes with that.
@@OfficerZlock dude LET US COMMENT IN FREAKING PEACE
@@OfficerZlockpost autoroblox I'll subscribe
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@ville2_ looking at your channel, i can see that you're one of those uttp kids. i also noticed that your only video is titled "Woman Crying Over Her Dog Being Put Down [TRY NOT TO LAUGH]." i can see why your parents disowned you, now reply to me you expired milk
Transphobic parents are acting like it’s a threat, but it’s more like a warning. Trans kids who are not supported by their parents are much more likely to either cut off all connection from said parents or cut their own life short. It is a fact and it is a warning. We don’t control your children’s emotional well-being. We only take notes on it and inform you of what could happen if you continue down this abusive path.
@@OfficerZlockno it's not
What’s annoying is how politicians and conservatives acknowledge that trans kids either thing about or go through with self harm, yet they block off gender affirming care, the only way dysphoria can be overcome, and wonder why self harm is such a problem.
@@bobaoriley1912 yeah it’s like that person slowly turning into a clown meme lol
@@bobaoriley1912 Because it suits their goals. They don't respect any of us, and it would be so much more convenient for them if we all stopped existing. Binding us with bad legislation and boosting the frequency of self harm is a stepping stone to what they really want. There are no creatures on earth more wretched and less human than the right wing.
My favorite schadenfreude is I have a friend who had kids before he transitioned. His dad in particular is ahem an asshole. Friend has been as cool as he could be about this- letting the kids have geandparrnt time while managing his boundaries (he has better relationships with hus sibs and his mom). His kids all on their own have pretty much cut nearly all contact with friend's dad because of the phobia. Friend never said word one, just let his father dig his own hole.
My daughter went thru a questioning phase when she was around 10. She knew she didn't feel straight, but wasn't sure what she was comfortable identifying as. At one point she she went thru a period of time where she tried dressing more as a boy, wearing her older brother's hand-me-downs & she even picked out a name she wanted to be called when she wore those clothes. She even asked me if she could have boys clothes. I supported her, I made myself available for her to talk to, we looked things up together. That period didn't last long, she realized she liked being a girl & liked dressing like a girl sometimes, but she also liked boys clothes - fair, they have better pockets lol.
A few yrs later she came out as Bi, and a few yrs after that she decided she really doesn't fit any label so she identifies as Queer. But as her parent it was so easy for me to just keep loving her as I always had, and to support her so she felt safe learning who she was. Yeah I had to devote some time to learning more about the different groups in the LGBTQIA+ community, but that just made me a better ally and a better Mom for her.
I wish there were more parents like you
@@tobyatlas6480 When I read the notification showing your comment my 1st reaction was: Why? What did I do? So thank you for seeing value in what I consider to be natural.
And I agree, I wish there were more parents who could remember their child is still their child no matter how they identify, and that child is still deserving of all the love and support in the world.
I don't understand how ppl can tell others that they should conform to antiquated societal norms and be miserably unhappy just to make the ppl who hold those beliefs feel more comfortable.
While progress on LGBTQIA+ issues/rights has been painfully slow, when I compare now to 30 yrs ago I can see so much improvement & that gives me hope that someday trans ppl won't have to live in fear, and that when ppl say they are gay, or bi, or aro/ace, or trans or NB, etc it is accepted as naturally as when ppl say they are cis-
hetero.
Well that’s fine… as long you don’t give a sex change at age of 4 to 18!
@@bigheadedm NO ONE IS DOING THAT FFS get out of your hate bubble and talk to trans people
based mom
It's not "make them a girl" she is a girl. She just needs help expressing that and feeling like herself.
so true 👍
Exactly smh. They act like we're force fully making them someone they're not, when it's just us trying to help them feel more themselves and be more comfortable in their skin.
@stoplgbtmovement womp womp
I think they don't exactly know how to term it
@stoplgbtmovement cool. anyways
its so weird to me that people always talk about 4 year olds and 6 year olds that don’t know anything. i guess i’m a trans kid, i’m still a minor. im 16. i’m supposed to start dating, decide on my career, i work, i drive, i’m seen as a young adult in every other way except my gender, of which i clearly must know nothing about
True. So many people simply refuse to view children as autonomous people, whether it's malicious or unintentional. Hence this overarching phenomenon of even well-meaning parents treating children like property.
I find it weird they think that 4 year olds and 6 year olds don't know anything.
When I was 4 I used to say that I was a dog named Max, and even at four there was a clear difference in my mind between me and max the dog. I knew it was pretend, I knew I wasn't actually a dog, I knew Buddy the bee was an imaginary friend. I was 4 and was keenly aware of all of these things, but still found it fun to act out the scenarios and loudly express like I was talking to a real bee, (I was actually terrified of bees as a kid so idk why my best friend was one😖) because even at 4 years old I knew that bees couldn't literally talk.
I guess from the outside looking in you could make the conclusion that me saying, "I am max the dog," could be me believing I was max the dog. But from the inside looking out, even as a 4 year old I would have probably been really upset to be talked down to like I actually believed I was a dog named Max. Also I would have been confused on why an adult was so stupid as to actually believe I was a dog, when EVEN I knew I was just playing pretend. I was 4 not stupid.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l I mean most people can't see other people as autonomous, that non-recognition just becomes the most acceptable and harmful with young people because they can't do many things by themselves yet.
A good example of the non-recognition of people as autonomous human beings is I would say the way some, and even a lot of people exist, and comment about online creators.
The difference between how kids and adults are categorized in people's minds, isn't about age, or genetics, the difference is in control.
I mean a big part of redpill isn't seeing women as autonomous beings, they see women as objects that need to be controlled or else they get out of hand. (Per their view)
I especially hate when you hear that argument from other queer people. Like c'mon, you're telling me a teenager isn't old enough to process their own identity when we all had the very clear understanding that Halle Berry should be our wife in third grade despite being told we were supposed to like boys? Get real
I felt the same way about my gender at age 5 as I did at age 47. The only thing that changed in the intervening 42 years is that I learned the language to express how I felt, and I found the self-confidence to take how I felt seriously.
I’m a cisgender, heterosexual woman.
I think that cisgender folks “figuring out” and trying to “cure” transgender people, and making laws to control them is wrong. I equate it to conservative white men making laws to control female bodies.
Let people be who they are and support them for who they are.
In a way it has also reminded me of AutismSpeaks with a board not having autistic people on it deciding on some of the most horrible ways in campaigns and what not.
Haters like FARTs don't want to understand transgender is just an adjective and trans women are real women, and obviously fight for women rights
The section with Alex was the hardest part for me, because it was very similar to what I went through. I was 16 when my family brought me into the doctor because they were concerned the first thing I bought when I got my first job was a binder. When they learned any medical intervention had the possibility to make me unable to breastfeed (not have kids just breastfeeding) the conversation switched to "there are so many ways to be a girl. You just have low self esteem because you're a teenage girl. It will pass." The constant arguing drained me. I remember putting on a pink shirt one day and my mom was so happy she took photos and put them online explaining I was "done with being called young man". I went along with it, telling myself I was "just a different kind of girl". And I believed it...until I moved out at 23. Within 2 months of living on my own, I was out to friends. Within 5, I went to the doctor to get hrt. Within 8 months of moving out, I started hrt. I feel lucky I was able to move away and have the space I needed to realize I'd been lied to/was lying to myself. When I see Alex, I see someone who never got the opportunity to distance themselves far enough to get that crucial space. Alex may be a woman, but it doesn't feel like she really got to choose. She was pushed into it by everyone in her life and was never able to break away.
I’m so sorry your mother put her own feelings and desires ahead of her child, mine did as well. I’m glad you got out as I did - it doesn’t get easier, but it does get better 🩷
Alex's father is driving me crazy. Obviously, he would never accept having a trans kid, and you can't tell me that that didn't affect her.
What would the harm have been for allowing Alex to cut her hair as short as she wanted and to go by male pronouns? If she's really a cisgender girl, then this would not have been right for her, and she would have stopped.
I cannot tell Alex what her gender is. I would be interested to revisit her in the future to see. Her testimony in this movie sounds like the testimony of those "formerly gay men" who went through conversion therapy, and swore that they were heterosexual now.
@@Gdr59281. You can still have kids after getting bottom surgery
2. The detransition rate is under 0.5%
3. It wnt matter in four years, because they'll still be trans.
It's been three years since I came out, and I'm still Nonbinary. Explain why in not writing in agony regretting my life and decisions?
Also from your other comments, I can tell you'd rather have a dead child than a happy child. Hopefully you never have kids and don't subject them to your abuse. 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈❤️
@@Gdr5928 Statistically, they almost certainly would not.
If a cisgender child explores their gender and even takes puberty blockers, then comes to the conclusion that they are actually cis, that's fine. Withholding this treatment to trans kids causes more harm than subjecting this treatment to kids who turn out to be cis.
@@Gdr5928weirdo
this literally came at the best time cause im literally writing a paper about why are trans kids are getting targeted by transphobes
You're gonna write a whole paper that says "'think of the children' is a thought-terminating cliche"?
That's great! We need more articles like this :)
you're definitely gonna do well on the paper
I plan on writing my speech next quarter on anti-trans legislation and rhetoric explored through the five pillars of a certain G word I most likely cannot say - at least, assuming the school doesn’t flag me for doing so
Because they lost the fight against gays and lesbians and needed a new target. Prior to that, they lost the fight against African Americans and went to gays and lesbians as their new target. Prior to that, they lost the fight against various immigrants being accepted (especially concerning what groups are considered ‘white’) into society and went against African Americans as their new target. Etc, etc, etc…
At least in the US, there has always been someone willing to say ‘Those people are different and it’s ruining your life!’ but they always lose the fight and have to find smaller and smaller groups to target. It’s an easy way into power, so long as you can scare enough people into handing you power without them realizing you’ve always been the monster in the room.
I wonder from the "80%" detransition kids were actually non-binary and just because they weren't a boy or girl they got counted as detransitioner - growing up I thought I was the opposite gender but then didn't feel comfortable like that but still didn't feel fully comfortable as my agab - I didn't know about non-binary identities until I was 30 because it wasn't something that was widely taught
There's a very good chance of that. That or they counted any kids who didn't follow up as detransitioners. Like nope, discontinuing care at a specific clinic doesn't mean they've detransitioned, they might have just moved. I saw a "study" once that counted anything less than a "full medical transition" as detransitioning. Can't afford surgery? Detransitioner. Didn't get breast implants because HRT did enough? Detransitioner. Had to stop hormones for health reasons? Detransitioner. Non-binary? Detransitioner.
@@Gdr5928I'm non binary, b*tch
It's actually simpler and more dishonest than that.
Back in the day any form of gender non-comformity was interpreted as "gender confusion" or "gender distress" .
This included being gay, liking the wrong colors, having opposite sex playmates etc..
A lot of parents took their kids to doctors over "Not being normal" and then - becuase a lot of those kids were just non comforming or gay- they grew up to be non comforming or gay adults. But some of the doctors clapped themselves on the back and claimed that they had saved a large portion of the the gender confused youth from going too far down the path of transness.
It is a blatant category error that constantly gets weaponized against us.
Not an expert, but for what I could check, many people stop the progress of transition because they only need social or hormonal transition.
Anything except full surgery transformation is normally considered detransition in many studies.
@@waffles3629The second one is the biggest methodological flaw in all of those "studies"
Anyone that doesn't answer must have obviously detransitioned, and you know sometimes you just don't send them the follow up letters at all ;)
If my daughter wanted to call herself a cat, hissing and all, I'd let her. She's six. Why does it matter how she identifies as? My job is to love her and raise her.
Like why are people who hell bent on not allowing their kids to be their most happy? They say nothing when girls reaffirm their girlhood or when boys reaffirm their boyhood but when a child expresses anything different than cishet parents act like the world is ending.
i ate cat food when i was little and it didn't do me any harm lol
@@-enigma-8218
I heard about why thats the case, back in the great depression people ended up eating pet food and were getting ill from it, thats why now there are standards for human safety.
Thats why you could eat it.
@vvitch-mist20 well *_their_* world is ending... They had this notion of getting an offspring that would be "just so" and fit in and look the part, and that's not happening anymore. Old-age plans/expectations came crashing down on their head, now they are trying to cope, and sadly they don't know any better. :-
@@neon17.08that's because they dump crap into pet food to be cheap. It was making the pets ill too, just nobody cared. Even in toys. There is no lead allowed to be used to make tennis balls...When sold for use by humans. Sell it for dogs and they have been found to contains large amounts that were found to be poisoning many dogs and making them ill. People didn't care about the animals health. It still happens, I remember when all those brands back in 2011 got recalled because they tried to dump shot into their foods and were making dogs doe of kidney failure after just one feeding. Then they tried to claim it was the factory fault.
But this really doesn't have anything to do with the topic of conversation or even that person saying they ate pet food and was fine. The fact is, letting your kid pretend to be a pet isn't as bad as people like to make it seem. And that isn't even including that this still has zero to do with trans people.
Serious question: have you ever seen one of the Alpha Male dudes ever say anything positive? Usually they're tediously explaining why everyone's wrong and thumping their chests. I'm not sure if they fear joy or just like squashing it, but it's definitely a fixation.
Seeing the little girl, assumedly, in the beginning spinning around in her dresses and smiling made my heart feel so warm, she just seemed so happy. And she isn't on hormones or anything, and yet still seems to be so happy, I don't see why people want to prevent little kids from expressing themselves.
A trans girl in a spinny dress is one of the most pure forms of happiness that can ever be felt or witnessed 💜
I’ve seen my sister and my toddler both have the same level of joy in their dresses, and I’m not ashamed to say that it brings me to happy tears every time because of how absolutely euphoric the moment is for them.
Any parent who can see their kid that happy and still make the conscious decision to stop their happiness because of “social expectations” and “gender norms” is disgustingly selfish and needs therapy.
as a non-binary/questioning, spinny dresses/skirts are heavenly regardless.
It is vitally important that the child not be able to do that and be conformed into clothing an expectation expected of them simply because they had a penis when they popped out of their Mother..... otherwise, god forbid... they may grow up to have independent thought and feelings rather than enslaved to a series of societal standards.
@@CraftyVegan lol as a trans man i also love spinny skirts, what can i say except "skirt go spinny"
I was a kid that loved "girlie" things: makeup, high heels, attracted to boys. I wasn't a tomboy at all. But I knew I was a boy. Because I wasn't gnc or a lesbian it took forever to realize my feelings of being a boy were legitimate and not just a mental illness. It literally took until I was an adult to realize I was a gay trans man. Gender identity, gender expression and sexual attraction are not necessarily tied together and so many of the people in this doc argue they are and because that reasoning so many kids claiming to be trans "are just incorrect about themselves". It's so frustrating.
As an asexual, I've found people often confuse/tie together different forms of attraction, and romantic and sexual preferences especially.
Yeah, been there too, I remember one of the first things my dad asked me when I came out was "so you like boys? Because I don’t see the point of being a woman if you don’t" and I was like "lesbians?" and it was literally the first time I saw him accepting an error he made, it’s insane how often gender identity and sexuality are mixed up for no reason
Yep, it took me forever to realize I was trans, because I like women. For years, my feeling about my gender was, "I don't really feel like a man, but I know for sure that I like women, so... I guess I'm a man?" Trans lesbians didn't get much representation until really recently.
@@quisait5794 Almost the same thing happened with my dad. After I came out to him, the first thing he said was, "Wow, I had always thought that you liked women." And I said, "I do like women, Dad. I'm a lesbian!"
@@Gdr5928they don't owe you any explanation. All you'll do is use it against them. They know themselves better than some random on he internet. (You)
9:49 - Dude, it's not a new gender - they've been that gender the whole time, you're only hearing about it now that they know how to articulate it. It's not new, it's just new to you!
I do love that even with all the misgendering in the film, Warner's mom still genders her correctly.
I hit "like" so violently that for a second I thought my screen might crack
Yep. I'm non-binary, I've always been non-binary. But instead of knowing that as a kid, I just felt broken. Especially because whenever I tried to express my discomfort with my body I made fun of and mocked by the adults in my life.
@@waffles3629same!!! I've always felt like there was something wrong with me, because I never had the words to tell others how I was feeling. I was always nb, and I'm pretty sure I was also ND for most of not all of my childhood as well. I have been diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and I always knew that I was different because I was bullied. Some abuse I went through as a kid at home even worsen the bullying, and some of it even started the bullying. I had my head completely shaved as a kid for a "punishment" by my abusive father, and everyone asked about my gender. It never felt right saying I was a girl, and it felt horrible saying I was a boy. I knew I was neither, and never had the words to express myself until my late highschool years. I WISH I had figured this out sooner. It would've saved me so much confusion and pain.
@@Gdr5928 where'd you get small children? Oh right, your ass. I said kid, as in under 18. Are you telling me a 12 year old is too young to know they feel uncomfortable?
@stoplgbtmovement So sorry that the rising costs of energy have forced you to resort to flag burning in order to stay warm. Hope your situation gets better soon, honey.
It was very affirming when the doctor said himself or herself and Jamie and I both muttered at the same time “themself.” 🎉❤🌈
I did that too!!
Not only does it save syllables, it also affirms non-binary people and just works to refer to everybody.
We already use singular they to refer to someone whose gender we don't know, it's well established. Just say they! It's SO much easier. Saying "he or she" instead is just cumbersome.
@@DrTssha Just more trans foolishness.
Some people say that if the gender is known about a person who is non-binary, using "They" in the singular sense is still gramatically incorrect. Then again, language evolves. @@DrTssha
Ms. Jamie, a female that suffers from multiple mental disorders, has mutilated breasts and an enlarged, deformed clitoris from taking cross-sex hormones she calls a penis. She has sex with her lesbian wife. OK to be gay but she is NOT a man. She is a female with facial hair. This is an echo chamber of dysfunction. So sad that kids get caught up in this and ruin their physical and mental health. Body mutilation is the trans Holy Grail.
Transphobe: I have only heard about this child from twentieth hand information, but i know more about who they are than themselves, their parents, and medical professionals.
Yeah it's such BS. Someone in the comments here is trying to insinuate that someone's OCS is making them obsess about gender. Like SMH y'all are stupid AF.
@stoplgbtmovement oh no I'm so triggered by your copypaste response that you still haven't bothered to fix the misspelling in despite spamming it everywhere you can.
@@incineroar9933ikr the j's were bothering me 😭😭😭
Idk who commissioned the documentary but telling us about a rando doctor whining about being called out for their s**tty worldview is not it.
It’s very clear where the documentary makers stand
It's the mental health equivalent to approaching a disqualified driver for road safety advice. Absolute insanity dressing up as journalism.
When not even half an hour in Ray freaking Blanchard showed up I was readying myself that if they keep going in this direction with this speed the last interview will be with Josef Mengele's ghost or something
As a young child I channeled my dysphoria into jealousy by pretty much just telling myself that it wasn't fair that girls could wear dresses, shorts, pants, and skirts while boys could only wear shorts and pants. It wasn't until I got older around maybe like ten that I became aware of the term transgender and I was like, "Oh. So there are other people like me."
I was the opposite basically, hated pink, hated girly stuff, hated the body I had (didn't and still don't want the other binary option though), lived in the most androgynous clothes I could find like jeans and skate shoes. Only as I got older, stopped caring what others thought, I started embracing the entirety of who I am, which ironically now includes some pink and lots of dresses (and a LOT of androgynous clothing lol)
@@lwolfstar7618 I'm cis, but it took me at least 2 decades to realize that i can be tomboy-ish and still like pink and dolls. Going all-out on gender expectations is harmful to trans and cis people.
You're smart that you figured it out when you were ten. I channeled my dysphoria into jealousy for decades, and it got pretty toxic.
@@LittleMamaFeline fwiw I'm nonbinary, and couldn't understand why I had periods of body dysphoria until in my 20s when I learned trans men exist, but still discounted my own exp because mine was intermittent and I never wanted the other binary option so in my mind clearly wasnt the same and needed to just "deal with it" and keep living as though I was cis. I can only imagine the extra hell Id have gone through if Id come out to my family (they were extremely bigoted)
@@LittleMamaFeline "Going all-out on gender expectations is harmful to trans and cis people." say it louder for those in the back !
just something to say about the autism/gender disphoria thing - a lot of autistic people dont feel like the concept of binary gender makes sense for one reason or another, so they are much more likely than allistic people who do make sense of binary gender to be non comforming. i happen to be one of those autistics. autism could just be a somewhat explanation (i use that loosely, because just "autism" cannot be an exclusive argument) as to why some autistics are very confused by or against binary gender and then proceed to identify as something other than their gender assigned by that system.
As somebody who is autistic and not straight, it’s annoying to see people infantilize autistic people in terms of what we understand about ourselves. What’s also annoying is that it’s *new* research and said research has only a corollary relationship (while I do believe something similar to what you said, like maybe also being due to a higher amount of introspection and reflection in autistics).
@@bobaoriley1912 well said!
@@bobobaa Thanks
@@bobaoriley1912 yep. Some places even use autism to deny people gender affirming care. Like "Oh, you're autistic? Well then you can't know if you're trans so screw you, no treatment".
Yep! I'm ND and nonbinary (anxiety and depression, professionally diagnosed) and I hate how they think it must be my depression or anxiety that makes me nonbinary, instead of me just being nonbinary all along, and depression and anxiety stemming from the abuse and bullying I had when I was a kid, and manifested in more extreme ways when i hit my highschool years. After I got help, I realized I was nonbinary, and I'm now living happier than I was when I thought I was cis.
How can they name it this and not see how it instantly ruins their own argument?
"Transgender kids: who knows best?" Transgender kids.
They just answered their own question before you even watch the video...
Literally. "Who knows what's best for trans youth? We side-eyed countless actual trans youth and asked 15 random parents and a struck-off practitioner..."
Transphobes argue way to much that "oh kids shouldn't know anything about trans without parents brainwashing them, they barely knows maths or know what career they want, how can a kid know what trans is?!"
Like idk why they're making it so complicated on how a kid just knows who they are, transphobes just assume kids don't have a brain, transphobes don't either so I guess its a reflection mostly.
Kids don't need to be thinking about what career they want until at least high school, and maths is mostly difficult cause its useless to most careers.
Also kids don't need to know the word trans to understand that their identity is not inline with the one that their being raised with.
@@OfficerZlock begone weird spambot
@@OfficerZlockLame. You wouldn't have to brag so much if it was true. Just make good content and let your viewers promote it. No need to beg if you are good.
@@Gdr5928 False equivalence.
I met a trans girl a few days ago. She has barley transitioned (literally just her pronouns and name with her friends) and she kept getting misgendered by a kid from her school so the kid had actually known her and me and one of my friends who had just met her there had managed to never misgender her
Once you learn someone's pronouns just use them it's not hard I'm not expecting people to know if you see them on the street but if they tell you that you got them wrong just ask for the correct pronouns and name
@@OfficerZlockno it's not
@ithoughtiwascishet13316 can I comment in peace also you joined 4 days ago and have no content so I doubt he looked at your non-existent channel
To play devil's advocate, I'd imagine it's easy to slip up if you'd been interacting with and existing alongside the trans individual for a long time before they visibly affirmed their gender.
Like, yeah, absolutely. Adapting your language and using someone's pronouns isn't this monumental task Rightoids try to make it out to be -- It CAN be confusing and you might slip up from time to time, but 99% of people are gonna brush it off if it's obvious you're not intentionally being a prick.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l Yeah I know multiple people that did change their pronouns and names, and despite being trans myself I did occasionally slip up. Really it's not about never making a mistake (tho that is the ultimate goal), but it's about how you react when you realise your blunder/get corrected.
Why can’t I just exist as a trans person and not get hated on
Bc bigots don’t want anyone to have nice things, that would make them realize how miserable they are. And then they might have to confront the idea that they might need to….. change themselves in some way 😬😬😬
Everyone gets hated on
@@AlexBrovoyeah and everyone gets the flu but some people die of it
@@me_n_the_boys_lookin_for_beans k
Wishing you get some peace and acceptance ❤ ☮️
I'm 24 and have been in the Boston Children's hospital gender clinic since I was 17. They refused to give me hormones until I was of legal age, but supported my social transition with mental healthcare. I think it's incredibly important to highlight that these doctors are doing everything they can to support us, and documentaries like this which leave out the facts are disheartening.
The way trans kids are talked about often reminds me very much of how autistic kids are talked about. I'm a cis autistic woman, and I see the parallels all the time. Autistic kids aren't trusted to know what they want either, there's a heavy focus on trying to get them to appear as "normal" as possible, and self-identity is largely frowned upon by allistic people. Autistic kids aren't allowed to say they're autistic, they have to say they "have autism" bc they're "not their disability" or w.e. The same stuff is spouted at us autistic adults as well. And if an autistic person identifies as autistic without a professional diagnosis, that's bad bc apparently, autistic people can't know ourselves and autism is seen as a bad thing so no-one can understand why on Earth we'd want to identify with it. The way trans people are constantly policed on how they express being trans just makes me think so much of how us autistic people are constantly being policed on how we express being autistic. And then, if trans kids want to do things typically associated with their assigned sex at birth, then that is suddenly viewed as a sign of them "desisting" and in a similar way, if an autistic person doesn't "act autistic enough," they can't possibly be autistic and are just lying for attention. Autism is also viewed as a mental illness when it isn't, same with being trans. The parallels are so, so striking to me. I also find it very interesting how autistic people are more likely to be trans. I would love to know why, but I don't want them to find a cause for autism bc it will inevitably lead to cures and aborting autistic foetuses, and I understand that a lot of trans people also are uninterested in finding a cause of being trans due to similar reasons. But purely just bc I find science fascinating, I would like to know what relates the two groups. I just wish knowing wouldn't come with consequences. Transphobes and ableists use the correlation to be more transphobic and ableist, and infantilise both autistic and trans people, including autistic and trans adults, to hell. We autistic people are not just oh so impressionable, the same goes for trans people. There's clearly smth that goes on in the brain's development to make both autistic and trans brains happen, but these people only care about using the correlation to further their bigotry. Me personally, I'm just a cis bi woman but many of my autistic friends are trans and I did question my gender once briefly when I was 15 bc of a silly dream where I had a p**** (trying to get past YT comment filters lol) but nothing else about me had changed in the dream, I still identified as a girl. I freaked out for a bit after waking up, but I quickly realised I am a woman, I love my body, I love people calling me she/her and my name. I wouldn't change it for the world. It was just a weird dream is all. This is in contrast to my parent, who is trans but has not transitioned (they have not transitioned at all, even with pronouns, so when discussing their situation online, I use they/them bc I don't know if they'd fully be comfortable with he/him but I also wants transmascs online to know I respect the community and people's identities) and is only out as a lesbian to most people (they don't mind me talking abt them anonymously online though, I did ask before), they have told me that they have dreamt from the POV of a man all their life. Like, fully a man, masc body, identity, everything. They've always known in their heart they were a man but they were born in 1958 and grew up poor af with no TV or anything. They didn't know what trans was until the 90s, and now they feel like they're too old to transition (I've tried to tell them abt the many older trans people I've seen who transitioned middle age or older but they still don't feel like they can, which I respect that, it's their choice and I don't wanna push). But yeah, my point is: I am autistic and yet fully cisgender and I know a lot abt the trans community, and yet, I have not been "swayed" lmao. Like they act like every autistic person just immediately identifies as trans the moment they see a trans person. I literally was raised by a trans person and I'm not trans lol. Autistic people are not just influenced by everything we see. They treat us like we're not even human with our own thoughts and feelings and I'm sick of it. And they treat trans kids the same too. Just awful "beliefs" all round. 😒
EDIT: Also forgot to add that the way autistic self-advocacy is talked about has striking similarities with the way trans self-advocacy is talked about as well. If we autistics self-advocate online, then we're "influencing teenagers to self-diagnose as autistic." If trans people self-advocate online, then they're "brainwashing children to think they're trans." It's so similar, it's honestly wild sometimes
@@Gdr5928and it's normal to be that way. Stop being abelist, bigot.
@@Gdr5928weirdo
I absolutley agree with you take and thank you for your support, but good lord that was diffcult to read in one paragraph lmao
@@Matty-man "For example, we dont allow children to drink alcohol, vote, join the military etc but we expect them to be able to consent to being sterilised?"
You're right. Transphobes hate that kids have a saying it their sterilisation. That's why most of the transphobic laws have a clausure that allows parents to sterilise their kids if the kids are incapable of consent.
@@Matty-man "Why would you send your own flesh and blood down a path with a 40% chance of suicide?"
We've been asking that to transphobes for years.
"If a child claims they are a dog, do you go out and get them dog food?" No but I might get them a cute dog ear headband because creativity is beautiful
If your kid wants to eat dog food and it's safe to eat... why would that be an issue?
@PlatinumAltaria cause I don't have kids and I feel like it is not my place
@@WerstoftheWorst Having a kid doesn't grant you any secret wisdom or qualifications, just look at the parents in this documentary xD
@PlatinumAltaria fair but I'm not gonna just pull up to a child and start messing with their diet
@@WerstoftheWorst Wait yeah... don't feed someone else's kid!
When I was a preteen and questioning and pretty much still an egg, I used to stumble across these types of documentaries and videos and I would eat them all up, despite how terrible and unvalidating they felt, they made me really depressed. I was sure I could "bully" myself into being cis by watching people who didn't think I was real. Seeing someone like you go through this content in this day makes me feel so relieved and I wish the kid I was would've stumbled upon someone like you
Your comment made me cry because reading it out loud and seeing that I'm not the only one who did this makes me feel like I'm less alone in the world
I just went to a mental health specialist today and said "I'm ready to live as myself now"
It's scary and exhilirating and thank you for sharing your story here too
Oh my God I did this too but with homophobic documentaries
I’m at 10:00 and I genuinely am so BAFFLED at how anybody can see anything like this, kids living joyfully and authentically and safely, and think that has to stop. Like it breaks my brain and my heart.
They seriously rather have dead "hetero normative" kids than happy gay or trans kids, (they as in most extreme conservatives.)
@@Gdr5928you do know gender dysphoria dowsnt just "go away" if the actually have it, right? It's like how some people's depression doesn't just "go away". Also it's not gender distress, it's gender dysphoria, and it's a very serious diagnosis, kinda like suicidal thoughts and tendencies, which bigots like you so love to throw around out of context
@Gdr5928 I can fully understand and respect parents not wanting their children to have to deal with bigotry and hatred, honestly. But as the previous commenter, @ArtsyKnox25 says, it's not likely to just go away when they grow up, and dysphoria is super distressing to the point *children* have taken their lives due to it and due to not being able to live authentically. So which is worse, experiencing some bullies and bigots while living as your authentic among people who love you for that, or having to constantly suppress who you are in order to feel accepted and valued by anyone at all? I know which I'd choose.
@@Gdr5928 no, it didn’t. It was suppressed and hidden and people suffered in silence or ended their lives. It may have been marked down as “depression” instead of dysphoria because they didn’t feel safe to say so back then (see left handedness graph for example of this) but it very much *was* still a thing back then and didn’t, doesn’t, just go away. This has been proven by psychologists over years and years of trying to find the best way to manage this so *please* do not come here and pretend like you know better.
@Gdr5928 No, it didn't go away. People were just forced to hide it and suppress their emotions. Trans people don't grow out of anything - that's a lie that you've made up.
Why do you think LGBT people have a horrible history with both physical and mental health outcomes despite affirmation being proven to do the opposite?
It hasn’t happened yet, but I just wanted to share that it’s a possibility that I could start T before 18 even though my parents are extremely transphobic. Basically, I came out to my doctor almost a year ago during a mental health thing I had, and I recently went back for an appointment for something else. Turns out, I might have endometriosis (very high change, my mom and my grandma both had it) and one of the treatments for it just happens to be testosterone. My doctor said that it was possible that I could start T soon for that, and although it would be a very low dose, it would make it significantly easier to get on a higher dose before I turn 18 depending on other things from my therapist and the gender clinician, who she offered to let me talk to at my next appointment in about a month. Very excited for that, it’s a long shot, but it’s not impossible.
Good luck on both your medical health and on being able to start T!
Good luck
@@orangutantapioca1530 Thanks!
Maybe your parents are just concerned about you.
@@duncanhewitt6557 Or maybe you should just trust op who is their child and not assume that the parents aren't being transphobic when you don't know them ❤
It’s not “making kids a different gender” it’s letting kids be the gender they are.
The "hypothetical" at 13:30 is so similar to the way my mother teased my cis brother about wanting a girl cause she had two "sons"; meanwhile, I knew it was a joke and didn't want her teasing coming my way if I voiced being trans, so I often played along with her teasing to get her approval despite knowing how my brother felt in an opposite manner when she took me shopping for boys clothing. She once teased him so hard at a department store forcing him to go down little girls aisles commenting how pretty he'd be, he was crying when we got to the car and felt safe to not breakdown in public. It was an awful memory for both of us.
"Trans Guy Reacts" is an incredibly modest way of saying "PhD psychologist debunks using actual evidence"
Learning about trans people existing saved my life and I'm not exaggerating. If I hadn't learned about being nonbinary when I did, I would have ended it all. I never felt at home in my body and would cry because I knew my voice wouldn't sound the way I wanted it to once puberty hit. Puberty, of course, made my dysphoria so much worse, leading to me wanting to stop existing. Trans kids are real and a lot of us don't feel right in our bodies from a young age. Believe your kids when they say something feels wrong with their body. You wouldn't tell someone who's in physical pain to shut up and suppress it, right? Why is emotional pain any different?
Yes, mental illness has always existed. Get help rather than saturate yourself in this toxic channel.
I’m so sorry that happened to you, and ignore Gdr, obvious transphobic trying to rain on the parade. I hope things are better for you now! Stay strong
@@Gdr5928 Fallacy of composition, AND fallacy of division, impressive
@@quisait5794 Sad that trans folks behave in a cult-like way telling people they are going to kill themselves if the world does not accept their delusions. It is just a ploy to bully others.
@@Gdr5928 most PEOPLE generally feel pretty bad during puberty, but not every person who feels bad during puberty is trans, and not every trans person felt bad during puberty, logic leaps is what allows transphobia to strive, gender dysphoria is a really unique feeling that is vastly different from just the general stress coming from puberty, I can assure you
I grew up thinking i failed as a girl. That i was less then what i was supposed to be and strived to be something my mom wanted. I was always told to "be a better girl". I hated makeup, hated dresses, didnt like girly things. Years later i am fuming my parents forced me into a roll that caused me so much anxiety and depression for not "acting my gender".
@@Gdr5928you're right, but also if someone is trans, telling them that wont change their transness.
@@ArtsyKnox25 Both are true. If my mom wasn't so hard on me being feminine, I would have been much happier and more comfortable. Trans or not, she didn't like the fact I was more masculine. Even when I was a kid or before I was trans. When I did eventually come out later in life. She couldn't understand and said "I'm a tomboy too but I never thought I was a guy." Not only was it rude but it completely missed the point. She even pushed my feminine sister to be her vision of a female which angered my sister as well. Some of what we encountered was sexual in nature too as a lot of importance was put on our bodies. The "we know our kids better" is a really dumb statement from people.
@@Gdr5928 And yet here you are, all over these comments telling trans people that they're doing their gender incorrectly.
The hypocrisy is tangible with you.
I'm a white cis hetero man in a reletionship with a trans woman and she is The light of my life. I wish all these kids get The help they deserve and that their parents love them and support them enough to help Them find it.
Trans kid here hi I've been summoned?
Same!
Same!
Hooray fellow summoned people
Same!!
*WHO HAS SUMMONED ME?!*
This sounds similar to putting autistics in ABA "therapy", which is essentially attempting to "convert" neurodivergent kids into neurotypicals. It has only caused even more trauma in autistic kids, which is tragic as few autistics, diagnosed or undiagnosed the same, will be able to reach adulthood without cPTSD. Many adult autistics are advocating for autistic children that are not ours, when their parents refuse to listen to their children, claiming they dont know their own interests. Current autistic adults understand the consequences of maltreatment including ABA or refusing to discipline, how to treat others, or teach life skills, often setting them up to be targeted by incel groups, codependence on parent/enmeshment, &/or inability to function as an independent adult. We live it. Autistics also have a rather high suicide/homelessness rate 2/3 & many autistics are LGBTQIA, increasing their risk even more!
It's already so hopeless for millennials & younger western society. I'm guessing trans have a decreased life expectation like autistics, where it's unlikely to live to see middle age, let alone a full life past retirement.
As a chronic pain disabled person limited to opioids ( 2/3 autistic women have chronic pain & medication intolerance is common), its a similar issue with those who have developed OUD on opioids, blown out of proportion when less than 1% of chronic pain disabled on opioids ever develop OUD. Those who do can be easily predictable too, as 94.6% have previous substance abuse that has increased their addiction risks. They just as likely could have become addicted to gambling or shopping. Healthcare needs to stop being politicized. My body, my choice should apply to agreeing to extremely low risks of certain medications, so long as providers are transparent about potential risks.
As for the trans autistic overlap, this guy, the psych dr, can go fuck himself. Autistics are more likely to be trans because we don't notice/absorb social pressures unless they are targeted (like the incel community targets autistic boys/men). Its also much easier to come out as LGBTQIA+ when you are already outcasted from society & have less to lose. Autistics generally are more authentically ourselves, more introspective than extrospective, leading us to explore different expressions of ourselves. We are also gonna get bullied one way or another, might as well feel more comfortable in our own bodies when we are. 🫤
You're correct about the life expectancy, (im only going on US statistics) based on recent studies its about a twice as likely suicide rate as cisgender individuals with the highest amount of deaths coming from teenagers or young adults. Though these numbers are much better than they used to be and have decreased with time due to the majority of people being either supportive or neutral about trans people in general, particularly in the newer generations.
@@OfficerZlockno it's not
YES to everything about how autism intersects with being trans / GNC / NB etc. There are plenty of logical explanations for the intersection if you just bother to understand autism.
Every time someone said they were uncomfortable giving their child the right medical care, I just wanted to ask. "Well when we you feel comfortable with the child? When their an adult and able to do it themselves and have no contact with you?" It's just making an experience that the child is having all about the parent. Why is a parents love always conditional.
Bc they selfishly assumed that their child would be exactly what they wanted when they had them, and had children for the express purpose of fulfilling their own desires. Just a bunch of shitty, miserable people passing on their garbage and misery to somebody else 😞
I still don’t get how my parents did that to me, or why any parents would bring a child into the world for that purpose.
It's not always conditional. My parents were surprised as heck when I told them, but they didn't waver for a second.
@@Gdr5928it's hard to watch a parent encourage self harm instead of encouraging their child to get the medical health they need and transition rather then kill themselves. You're very contradictory. Do you want children to end their lives or do you want them to transition and live past 16?
@@Gdr5928 also, my parents abused me. Would you say they loved me unconditionally while they beat me with a belt and yelled and screamed at me for being in the way and pushing me away when I wanted to be close to them?
I would say no, but I bet you'd say yes just because you think they'd be doing it "out of love", when it was out of malice and hatred.
@@electronics-girlI'm happy you had parents who supported you and loved you, but most of us aren't that lucky. I hope one day you can recognize that love isn't always unconditional and there will always be parents whose love is based on how many chores you do or how much you praise and care for them because they're too busy getting high on drugs, or leaving you in a super arkey alone because they were fighting with your other parent and would rather leave both of you there than not fight.
Protect trans kids
And trans adults, don't forget them too!
@@OfficerZlockno it's not
@@PlatinumAltaria Correct!
Protect cis kids
1:26:54 I never understood this thinking because its so much harder to come out as trans than to gay, esp nowadays. Samantha Lux even mentioned in a video a while ago that when she came out her mom said "can't you just be gay?" because she was worried about how difficult things would be for Samantha as a transwoman
It might take years for a parent to know how a child feels deep down, but thats only because it takes a kid that long to learn the language they need to express themselves. Also the really funny part is they keep going “there’s 40 clinics” like that’s a big number for 50 states.
@@Gdr5928 it’s not a social contagion because that’s not how social contagions work. Contagions are things like mob mentality, or group rehabilitation. Depression *might* be contagious, maybe, but the chemical changes in the brain are there, regardless of the cause.
As for the growth in number of clinics, we’re just actually treating it now. The reason there are so few elder queer people is because they’re all dead, from murder, suicide or AIDS.
The most effective treatment for gender dysphoria is transition. End of.
@@Gdr5928did you know shark attacks increase along with ice cream sales, are you gonna suggest ice creams cause shark attacks? And do I need to explain why your question is dumb as well?
@@Gdr5928because it's not a social contagion, and that is just wrong classification. You do know they took being LGBTQ off of the diagnosis in the 1970's, right?
@Gdr5928 There was also a period in relatively recent history where the use of seatbelts shot through the roof? Was that also a social contagion?
What is it with you and mindlessly linking unrelated phenomena together?
@@Gdr5928You’re obviously wrong. You say wearing seatbelts isn’t hospitalizing kids, it’s *not* wearing seatbelts, and you’re metaphorically trying to stop people from getting seatbelts…
IMO if you don't agree with the gender affirming approach, you're saying that you're ok with transgender people being miserable and suicidal. Because there is no other approach that actually helps.
Calling it an "approach" is silly, it's simply medicine. There are no alternatives. There is healthcare, and there is torture and abuse.
@@Gdr5928 I've known I was different in terms of gender since I was at least 4, and I came out three almost four years ago. I'm still nb. Before I came out, I planned to end my life. S tell me again how it's wrong?
@@Gdr5928also thanks for being an ally saying that trans people should transition with surgery.
@@Gdr5928false.
Funny how these parents never stop to think "What have I done wrong that my child would rather tell their WHOLE school who they are but panic at the thought of telling me?" No. It is always "The school must be forced to tell me!" I know what kind of parents they are and the children should not be outed against their will.
Btw, the phrasing of the one mother was interesting, too. It was something like "this is my child and I decide what it does".
But yeah, trans people are only for children to be free to find out who they are while the "other side" wants to force them into boxes...
@@Gdr5928 but I do. Don't know what this has to do with being liberal or not.
@@Gdr5928 So now we're just openly making shit up and peddling assumptions in the guise of arguments?
Yeah, my parents tried to force me to be a girl, when I told them at 5 years old that I was a boy. Ex- I wasn’t allowed to cut my hair shorter than my shoulders or pick clothes from the boys section. All it did was make it so I didn’t transition until I was 35. I’m not going to speculate at how it effected my mental health. Depression and anxiety disorders run in my family. We’re a pretty neurotic bunch without this adding to it.
Wow, are you me? That is verbatim what I went through, oh how fun :') it took a complete breakdown at 35 and lots of therapy for me to finally start coming out and, despite all the shit with my family, I've never been happier
This entire video has me about to slam my phone into the floor. Hearing the same debunked transphobic lies is so infuriating.
Edit: alright I actually have to stop. I can't do it. When that one person's dad came on and starting talking about how uncomfortable _he_ was, and then his child acting obviously brainwashed... and then them citing the false desistance rates, and clearing being pro conversion therapy... I'm crying. I'm can't watch this anymore.
I’m so sorry, good on you for taking care of yourself. This stuff is incredibly difficult, please don’t force yourself. Truly wishing you the best in life 🩷
@@high-bi-passwordComforting, but I have a hard time agreeing with “ignorance is bliss.” Was never really my favourite mantra.
Haven't watched the video yet, but the way you describe the dad sounds too similar to my ableist and transphobic dad. Hits really close to home.
Yeah, that guy gave me the WORST feeling every time he showed up. He's so hostile towards his child's gender identity, and his child looks so uncomfortable.
You do understand that science proceeds through a process of discussing competing research and theories. I seriously doubt that anyone can speak with certainty about desistance rate given the increase in people identifying as trans. Also, theories aren't "debunked" because other investigators find different results. Had you continued to watch, you would have seen that the "brainwashed" woman turned out not to be trans.
One thing I want to bring attention to that Jamie hasn't mentioned yet as of 1:40:32 into the video is that the narrator is using a particular dog-whistle, saying that children are being transitioned rather than that they are transitioning. It is a subtle difference, yet a very important one that makes it seem as if the parents and medical and mental health care providers are driving the child's transition rather than it being child-driven. We see this a lot in the anti-trans discourse that often also dtaws in the "gr00mer" narrative. It is a tool they use to take away the child's autonomy and to frame supporting a trans child as being a form of abuse, when of course it's lack of support that is much more harmful to a trans child's mental health.
*draws in
"I completely reject the allegation that I've ever practiced conversion therapy. I practice what I would call developmentally informed therapy."
This sounds exactly like when mayor Eric Adams of NYC said he doesn't use solitary confinement, but rather "punitive segregation." You can give it whatever Orwellian rebranding you like, it's still the same exact thing. Studies have found both conversion therapy and solitary confinement to be tantamount to torture, so that should tell you where this quack is coming from.
Thank you for showing this video and for taking the time to explain the aspects of it. I've been to seminars hosted by Cheri Dinovo on behalf of my Pride Board to help the youth in my community cope with their identity and to show them that they are supported and we're there for them. Thank you for being you, and I've shared your video with my board members to view.
The same people who insist that a child can't know who they are at a young age are the same ones who will insist they ALWAYS knew they themselves were a boy/girl. They can't seem to get it through their heads that they didn't decide to be their AGAB when they were, say, five, so why do they think someone who knows their own gender at the same age is somehow confused or wrong? It's not quite the same, but I always knew I was a boy, and I was always fascinated by men since I was old enough to be notice. I didn't know what gay was but it was always there. Nobody "indoctrinated" me. In fact the indoctrination was all towards being straight. Your sexuality is built in. It's not that hard to figure out.
For real, I read that Blaire White (a "pick-me" conservative trans woman) said that she herself knew from childhood, and yet she still wants to stop kids from getting treatment.
First, the 98+% of the population that are cis people don't insist that we "ALWAYS knew they themselves were a boy/girl." We simply live our lives and develop sexually without experiencing any dysphoria. Trans people are claiming a "gender identity" that should be socially and legally accepted above their biological sex; moreover, many are claiming that their "gender identity" entitles them to any and all privileges and immunities accorded to people based on their biological sex. Trans people, such as Buck Angel and Blaire White , who simply live according to their gender identity, experience very little opposition from society at large. Dysphoria is a , more or less, private medical problem that an adult can resolve however he or she chooses. What has happened over the past few year is that the "trans community" has come to insist that society at large re-shapre itshelf to accommodate the self-identitfication of any trans peron, and all that that entails, as a politically signifIcant right. It is disingenuous to "insist" that debate of these social changes amount to transphobia whenever some one challenges or disagrees with the "lived experience" of any trans person.
Jamie sat through this entire video? Twice? I'm cis and tapped out within a couple of minutes. You can sense the overall bias in the opening sequence. Brexit was almost the exact opposite of what was promised, the Tories are actively trying to extract what little wealth the working classes have to give it to the already obscenely wealthy, and the country is generally going to sh-t. But never mind that, **you** should be concerned your kid might not conform to outdated societal norms. oh, no! What will the neighbors think?
Me seriously watching the video...
Jamie "I think there is a big difference to being like 'Oh if I said yes to everything my child wanted, we'd have 5 puppies and 3 guinea pigs'..."
That had me laughing because as kids my sister and I got three guinea pigs because we wanted them...been through a couple of generations now, even had 5 at some point...10 years later we still got three guinea pigs...
Jamie's example being very specific 🤣
But what about the 5 puppies? 🙂😁
@@barrylangille3523 Well, no dogs were allowed in our flat...my oldest sister got one puppy when moving out though :)
It needs to be said, learning about trans people isn't going to turn kids trans if they aren't already. If anything, it will make them more educated, and accepting of those who are different. The same is true for letting people question and explore their gender identity. Most of them will turn out to be cis all along, just based on statistics. They also tend to become the strongest trans allies, because they have a better idea of what trans people go through, and a better understanding of trans issues. This education, acceptance, and allyship, that's what the transphobes are actually opposing when they say we can't teach kids about trans people.
9:21 this person sounds like the old mentor thats kind of high all the time, gives cryptic lessons, but ends up being the reason the hero wins in the end despite the riddles
If my nonexistent kid wants to dress up as a dog, you know I'm supporting them in their endeavors. I might just introduce them to the concept of furries, people who like to dress up as anthropromorphic animals, and get them handpaws, tail, and ears to play with until they get bored, or not. There's no harm in letting them explore and experiment safely, but some people are not ready for that.
While the whole “I wanted to be [animal] when I was a kid…” argument is so much of a strawman that it could moonlight as a scarecrow, the funny thing is there is a lot crossover between being LGBTQIA+ and being a furry. So like a kid wanting to be an animal could be a precursor to being a furry.
therian here. ive wanted to be an animal since i was a young young kid. my parents supported me and let me buy some cheap partial fursuits after years of nagging and i grew up a little more.. and i still have them today, and ive since gotten much more which i wear regularly. my identity as an animal hasnt wavered but instead strengthened. i feel like my community needs much more positive attention and acceptance, since i hear a lot of people, even other trans people!! treating us the same way they were treated by transphobes... its very disheartening when my experience as transgender feels so similar and so real to my experience as a therian.
also fyi since i learnt what the internet was i knew i was a furry, but after a little more digging and years of coming to terms with my own identity is when i figured out i was trans, and later figured out i was a therian... just like being trans, ive ALWAYS been a therian. just didnt always have the resources or terminology to understand i identify as such and now that i do im so much happier and more comfortable with myself (: now i hope to find allies everywhere i go
Re: autism and gender disphoria- high correlation, but it's because those of us with autism can often see societal rules and call them on their BS. We're more likely to be queer in our gender and sexuality, because we see through the veneer of what you're "supposed" to be. Autism doesn't CAUSE our queerness, autism causes us to RECOGNIZE our queerness. We were born autistic, and we were born queer. (And proud of both!!)
Agreed. I'm autigender, so i believe that my autism influences my gender.
I didn't start questioning my gender until i began suspecting I'm autistic, and came out as non-binary shortly before i was diagnosed with ASD.
I didn't hear about the term transgender until I was in high school, maybe about year 10. I had a huge power struggle with my mother in year 9 when I did the World's Greatest Shave (fundraiser for Leukaemia Foundation) and suddenly found an intense joy in passing male. It continued for a full 6 months until one day, my mother had enough of it, took me to the hairdresser and told the lady "she wants to grow it out". Needless to say, we all knew I didn't want to, and while I theoretically could've kicked up a fuss, I was also all of 15 and would've been slapped silly before we even got home. It was probably the only time I ever cried while getting a haircut. Poor lady was stunned by a sobbing teenager asked me if I was okay.
Fast forward 6 years and I did the Shave again, then also secretly got myself binders. Next year after that, started using the name Jamie as a safe trial name with some people. November that year, my mother sat me down and got really stuck into me about how I was presenting not even androgynous any more, but as masculine as I could. I felt forced to come out, so I did, but her reaction was a scoffed "no you're not" and threatening to report me to the police for using male toilets (I was regularly getting stares by then and almost got the cops called on me in Dubai). I don't know what she expected.
A year later, my younger brother came out gay after constantly going to sleep over at a "friend's" place. My mother apparently wasn't surprised. I mean, I personally couldn't actually imagine him being with a girl.
I'm 26, I've been living in my current house for around 23 years, and my only housemate is my biggest trigger. I also still look anywhere between the ages of 16 and 21.
Hate the possessive language and tone of "Parents rights" activists. "My Child" "My Child" "My Child" JFC, would it kill them to acknowledge their kids as human beings and not pets?
I get it that a grifter, or some other random psychopath would say something like "If a child identifies as a dog, would you buy them dogfood?", but for someone who claims to be an authority in the field of child psychology? I'm sorry, but did you get your degree in the university of Kellog's Rice Crispies one morning, or something? That's literally just a modified Apache attack helicopter joke, no difference between the two.
How on Earth is this guy a licensed psychiatrist? His license should be shelved similarily like with Jordan Peterson. Just a freaking John Money 2.0, absolutely demonic.
Every single time ANY form of conversion therapy has been attempted, it has failed 100% of the time. I'm happy Zucker got fired, but honestly his entire license to practice should've been also revoked.
I would hope that having his licence revoked would be a part of his office being shut down for actively harming patients.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9l I sure would hope so!!
Growing up my habits and behaviours were explained away in a number of ways. I grew up amongst a great number of male cousins. My sister and I were the only two "females" in the group for a good 10 years before younger girl cousins, so my always wanting to play with my male cousins was seen as par for the course because there WAS no one else at our family gatherings. Second my sister (the oldest of my two siblings and I, we had a brother between us and I am the youngest) was extremely girly and family dynamics encouraged me to veer as far from my sister's behaviour as I could. I was also very much a tomboy and had to be taught be friends how to behave in a feminine manner in my 20s!
I also grew up fairly sheltered in a Catholic family, so imagine my surprise to find out that Trans people exist, and that I wasn't "a girl missing some parts" but an Intersex individual and more firmly aligned to the masculine side of the gender spectrum. Was an interesting year that one.
Jamie, thank you so much for your channel and videos, I came out as a trans guy in April and without your videos I probably wouldn't have had the strength to accept my self as trans, let alone tell my family and friends. you really helped me and most likely so many others feel comfortable about who they are and I cant thank you enough. I'm 19 and waiting for my first appointment and hoping to start T in a few months, love you and your videos!
Stay strong and true to yourselves everyone! ❤❤❤
Oh my god, people are getting more widely accepted for who they are? *gasp* Outrageous!
Child abuse and body mutilation have become celebrated ... sad.
@@OfficerZlock Sick that people want young people to suffer from mental disorders, spend a lifetime taking cross-sex hormones to maintain an impersonation and worse having their bodies mutilated under the delusion that they can change their sex. Miss Jamdoger is an example of what NOT to do.
@@WinstonSealPhDcan you like, shut up? also it'd be "Mr Jamdoger".
Funny ... folks that cannot accept their biology demanding to be accepted ... LOL
I'm 30 and finally able to start going through transition. I wish I was able to do more sooner and I hate how difficult it is made even for adults. Even now I'm fighting to get top surgery and its horrible how many doctors are against treating people even for just being trans
The enlightened centrist: "A person mad at something they made up in their own mind and a person who obviously exists... I can't tell which is right!!!"
Like literally
Centrists are just right-wing lite bruh
@omgrawrr7161no y’ ain’t.
35:19 Made me tear up, in a good way. That's exactly how it is. I'm a trans man, and it always felt performative trying to be a girl when I was a kid. It just felt like too much, even when I was a preteen and gave up trying to be a girly girl and considered myself a tomboy, it still felt like work. THAT'S what felt like passing - not trying to "pass" as a man once I figured myself out. (Though these days having a beard helps!)
@@Gdr5928 Not at all! Everyone thinks about how they're perceived; I don't imagine me deciding on a haircut or what shirt I want to wear out today is any different from how a cis man might make those decisions. I don't have to think about how I talk or act because it's just how I am.
Edit: Ok so from other replies I see now that this person is just being a dick in a ton of other replies, so this was not a genuine question. My point still stands, though.
@@Gdr5928are you actually trying to learn from us, or just trying to use whatever we tell you as a weapon t further your hatred? I genuinely cannot tell. Someone of your comments are transphobic, them there are some that are supportive. Which one is it now?
@@Gdr5928weirdo
@@Gdr5928 Believe it or not, but the biggest burden of doing those things fall on trans people who are being forced to mask
Don't pretend like you care about LGBT people
@@Arcane_Archerthat's exactly how you should respond to comments like that. Be polite, genuine and provide a thoughtful reply.
If they're just being misunderstood then they've received a proper reply instead of attitude, but if they're trolling then you've refused to take the bait. Perfect 👌
i dream of having accepting parents cuz i dont feel safe to come out and it is unfortunately taking a bigger and bigger toll on me and my mental health and im, to put it really the only way i can, slowly loosing myself and im having to literally write down how i feel, what i like, etc cuz i feel like if i didn't i would forget who i am idk how to say it but i hate my 'family', need a new family, and just need help and support in general but i haven't the slightest clue on what to do....
Trans mom here. I’m here if you need a hug.
@stoplgbtmovement okay. what were you expecting me to say? also by the way there's 3 typos, just wanted to let you know :3
I can’t believe a psychologist just compared a trans kid to a hypothetical fictional kid saying he’s a dog, I really can’t 🫥 I expect to psychologist to know better. And thinking that he had more than 100 kid patients… I feel so bad for them. The governments should take the licenses of these people and I’m glad they did with him.
Right? And the idea that a kid feeling for years that they're the wrong gender is in any way equivalent to a kid who wants to play puppies for an afternoon is wild to me!
@stoplgbtmovement im burning all the religions in the world
2 hours of Jammidodger in the morning? Thank the gods
@@OfficerZlock wrong 😽✌️💚💫
@ville2_if you have to brag about how good you are, you aren't as good as you think you are. If you truly were as good as you said you were, your subs and viewers would do it for you. But it's clear your just trying to belittle someone you're jealous of. This behaviour isn't going to get you views or subs, its only going to make people think youre a jealous asshole.
I have always wondered why is it that they always see and treat trans men as CHILDREN when they are well into their 20s and 30s and then see and treat trans girls as GROWN MEN when they are 13 barely a teenager.
That's because transphobes see trans men as misguided brainwashed women that need saving and they see trans women as predators who willingly chose transition to conceal themselves from cis women
It's both misogyny and misandry at the same time combined with a willful ignorance of what being transgender actually is
it’s textbook sexism, you see. they see trans men as “silly girls” because they’re misogynistic clowns, and they see trans women as “perverts and threats” because they believe that’s not how “men” should act.
I was awestruck by that parent who was "terrified" of a red dress. Cis-het people, especially transphobes, are the ones reinforcing gender stereotypes. It's my trans and non-binary friends who give me (cis-lesbian) gender euphoria - there are an infinite number of ways to express gender.
One point about the statistic (sources?) mentioned in passing by the documentary narration - about a huge uptake in accessing gender-affirming care for kids in the UK: Ireland passed the self-identity law in 2015, but our young trans citizens have been travelling abroad for gender-affirming care, particularly to the UK. Many trans people here have had to go further afield since the Tavestock centre closed. So it's highly likely that a lot of people accessing those services in the UK are forced to travel to get the right care.
Another thought - I know, three in one day! - the pathologisation of gender dysphoria as a mental health condition is precisely what gives the non-trans medical professionals license to decide what's best for trans people. It's the same when you're disabled or chronically ill - something our communities share, and an area of huge intersection too.
Thank you as ever, Jamie!
The whole “kids say they’re dogs” thing irritates me to no end. I was a kid with a very vivid and active imagination. I pretended to be many things but if my parents told me “you’re not a dog” my response was something along the line of “I know I’m just playing jeez”. However, I have clear, distinct, awful memories that still cause a visceral response in me to the times people directly or indirectly told me I wasn’t a boy. I knew the difference between pretending/imagination and who I WAS as a person. To say children don’t know the difference is to underestimate them in a horrible way and can cause real harm.
Yes a person’s sense of self will change and become more complex with age but that does not negate the fact that kids DO have a sense of who they are and a lot of that sticks into adulthood. People just don’t question it when all of those aspects are what society deems “normal”. It’s only questioned when the kid is saying they are something that goes against those societal expectations.
That story about the childs drawing reminds me of something that happened when I was about 8 or 9.
We had to draw our future self in school and I drew a person with long hair and no boobs. My teacher tried to convince me to draw boobs cause "I'm gonna be a woman and well I'm gonna have boobs" (it's kinda weird that she was so fixated on me drawing the boobs but ok). And when I refused multiple times cause I just didn't want to, she called my parents. (I was super shy and I'm surprised I didn't just do what she wanted) My parents were just confused why the teacher made such a big deal out of it. It's not that deep.
Well I'm a trans man but I didn't know that back then. It was just a drawing and I felt so bad and ashamed because of my teacher's reaction, I didn't understand what I did wrong and why she got mad about my drawing. My parents were fine when I just told them I didn't feel like drawing the damn boobs on myself.
Cis women dont always get boobs.
Way back in the early-70s in the US, there was a special called "Free to Be You and Me" and there was a story called "William's Doll." They didn't say he was transgender or even gay, but a boy wanting a doll in the early 70s was "GASP! THE HORROR!" Kids at school and his big brother made fun of him "A doll! A doll! William wants a doll!" and his parents got him traditional "boy toys" for his birthday. He liked them, but still wanted a doll. Grandma came over and gave him a doll, which he loved. Dad wasn't happy, but grandma said it would teach him to be a good dad someday. So the ending could have been stronger but for 1973 it was great.
That's it. THAT was the controversial thing. A cis boy wanted a doll - so a bit of gender non-conformity in William's desire for a toy that was "for girls" - 50 years ago. Back then, when it was made into a TV special, ABC wanted Marlo Thomas (the creator) to cut that segment, fearing it would "turn boys homosexual." She refused, and it went into the special. It used to play every year on TV, when that was still a thing, and I saw it in school even through junior high (12 - 13 year old kids). I loved the whole show and always cried for William until he got his doll. Weird the things you still remember when you're old.
I just found out that they showed it in schools partly as a way to see if teachers could unlearn their internalized sexism in teaching, and expectations about what girls and boys were supposed to want and to be "good at."
So if you want to come right down to it, a boy wanting a doll and that being okay *IS* traditional values.
P.S. Progress report: At age 55, as someone who "just discovered" she's a cis bi-romantic Ace, I've started having dreams with romantic feelings about women. They're not sexual, but they feel very natural and they make me happy.
I saw a live version of that show as a child! I think little things like this helped a generation of parents to better accept their children. That’s part of what the backlash is about-a number of parents refusing to enforce the old toxic ways.
I work with homeless youth. I can echo the comment about watching people blossom when they get gender-affirming care.
The hard work you put into this comes across. I recall watching it when first aired on the BBC and your summary at 1:54 is spot on. Well done.
Gotta love seeing people constantly complaining about parents helping their children by giving them the care they need.
Especially since this process takes a LONG time to get approved for, you have to see a psychiatrist, physicians, endocrinologists just to start hormones. processes that are long and costly (especially in the US). Surgeries that require you to be 18+ with approval from doctors. Something thats so heavily regulated by countless requirements, something that posseses proven psychological benefits, instead of complaining about an ACTUAL problem.... Like Vaping and Smoking, those have no benefits... not even for pain and yet they're everywhere and teens can get them anywhere from gas stations to Walmart easy peasy not to mention those cause irreversible damage to a persons lungs, yet people dont complain about that as much as they do the existence of people that has been proven by science.
Trans people aren't grooming children, hell the Catholic Church has done that infinitely more in multiple ways.
Trans people just want to live their lives, that includes trans kids who want to be who they are, stop the cycle of prejudice and go through the proper impartial channels for this kind of care if they get that care they'll be less likely to make an uniformed decision on their own in the future.
Just an FYI- Kenneth Zucker has lost his job, been disciplined by the College, and is no longer counselling clients. He is not welcomed into any but the most extreme Christian national stuff.
Sucker(what autocorrect wanted to call Zucker) is literally saying “I tried to make them not be trans” which is exactly what torture…erhm…conversion therapy is, so while he may not want to admit it(perfectly understandable), that’s what he did
I always felt something off as a kid. I legit thought every girl goes through a phase. where they want body hair and a beard. Iv also always hated my chest even when i was little i tried not to wear a shirt. Also remember feeling like a gay man when i felt feminine never like a women. I knew just didn't have the vocabulary for it at the time.
Ah yes, the goatee phase.
@@Gdr5928not to the point where they want to be a different gender and want surgery. It's called being trans, and it's very normal it be trans. Stop insinuating it to being a phase when it's not.
@@Gdr5928weirdo
@Gdr5928 "Similar phenomena exist, so LGBT people are clearly made up" is a wild and nonsensical take
As a minor underneath the GNC/trans umbrella, this terrified and angered me all at once. I live in a more conservative state and may be moving to an even more conservative state soon and this kind of misinformation terrifies me and i find it so fucked up that a minor needs to worry about their safety for just existing
I’m so sorry, it breaks my heart that you may very well experience that bc people are the worst. Please keep trying to be yourself in whatever way you can 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷
One Topic At A Time (on youtube) has some sweetly affirming videos about LGBT+ people. Take care of yourself please.
@@LittleMamaFeline I watch his content religiously 🥲 he is way too wholesome
In the US puberty blockers are also often used for disabled children who need full care assistance because it’s easier to get those approved by insurance then it is to get lifts and equipment or in-home help approved.
This is extremely unethical, and they are often kept on them long enough to damage their bones entirely, and then females are often put on the Depo shot directly after that, which then causes more damage, especially for someone who is nonweightbearing.
If people wanna be upset about puberty blockers, they should be upset about this not people using them appropriately and safely to treat a medical need.
A lot of this video is "They're not following the stereotype, le gasp, they must be infected with the trans! How do we fix this?"
Thank you for the long video, Jamie. I would never have enjoyed watching this myself, but with you here, it's far more tolerable! And really helped me get through the morning without excessive boredom!
I would rather have a loved trans kid, than a dead kid, 100%. I don't understand why other parents can't get that.
I think my mom (who is a lil transphobic at times) says it best.
"I would have you change who you are a thousand times to make sure you are happy, than to write a thousand words at your funeral for ignoring it."
And hearing that from her. Just kinda made me cry knowing that she can be insensitive sometimes, but way down she wants me to be happy with who i am.
"If I let my kids do everything they wanted, there would be Pokemon posters everywhere!" Yeah, but does not hanging up those Pokemon posters stop them from liking Pokemon? No? They still love the games and ask for the new ones for Christmas and birthdays? They still watch the show and the movies? Huh... its almost like stifling your child doesn't actually change who they are. Which means not accepting your trans child and forcing them to pretend to be their assigned gender doesn't stop them being trans 🤯
Not hanging up Pokeman posters everywhere might help the child to learn to respect other people's needs and desires. It might lead a child to recognize that his or her "internal reality" alone doesn't create a "right".
@@theodavis3752 Imagine being pro child suicide because you think your "needs and desires" gives you control over other people. Pretty gross.
by a quick google search, nose jobs have a 20%ish regret rate, knee replacement has somewhere within 6-30%, gender afferming has a regret rate of 1%. How is this not talked about more.
I'm so happy for that girl who transitioned in the most ideal way, they STILL won't let me talk about bottom surgery here in Cali and I'm damn near 17- but I have top surgery refered! Still no date, I have my consultation this next spring
I LOVED this length of video, Jamie. The in depth talks, I just love it when you get more serious like this. You’re very good at explaining facts in a respectful way
3:59 This is giving ‘If you’re not a boy, you are a girl’ Energy. Like wtf.
When I was 4, I made up this cat character I roleplayed as in my head. He was male, while I was assigned female at birth. This character helped me understand that I'm a boy actually. Yes, I did want to live as this cat, or more so as this character, because I didn't have any other idea on how to express my identity. There is no such thing as transgender care for children in my country, there is and was no such thing as affirmative care. And transgender people were always just seen as a joke. Even though we have a transgender woman in our parlament, people still joke about her and misgender her and teach their kids that "hey, look, this dude dresses up as a woman lol isn't this hilarious?"
I think I’ve heard this referred to as a coping mechanism for the mind when it knows it is adverse with its surroundings. It’s a natural phenomenon, but right wing radicalizes kids to leverage their conformity agenda.