It also explained why she knew so much in the force without much training but now she'll have to train much harder because she doesn't have access to the skywalker bloodline power
i enjoyed the movies...i dont get what the fuck people are complaining about....these are good movies. i was highly entertained. i cared about the characters....the first and third were much better than the second but they were all good movies. I've enjoyed myself, and am happy with all the new canon content we get to play with now. the warp maneuver makes complete sense to me....you move in relative space for a while before you dip into subspace. so if you time it just right you can jump into ships BUT to be able to time it properly is randomly variabled....the same location might take anywhere from 35 seconds to enter subspace or much much less...we dont really know how their drives worked and never did....but it is theoretically possible. especially without a dumbass AI doing it for you....we all know how C-3P0 felt about going through an asteroid field....and that was hardly an inconvenience.
So Rey has a channel to the power of the cosmic Force through Ben solo, while Ben solo has a channel to corporeal existence through Rey. Essentially, neither one can really die while the other one lives. I think this means that the Skywalker saga, as Disney likes to call it, is nowhere near finished. This leaves open way too many possibilities. I think all it means is that the storyline seeded from the original trilogy, is over.
I question if JJ/CT really thought that deep though. Because looking at their recent interviews, it seems to me like they didn't know or understand half the shit they were pulling off.
So then Snoke did lie about bridging their minds? Because I always thought (1) that's not how the Force works and (2) he/Palps didn't seem to know shit about the testament of Rey & Ben's bond considering they've consistently used it to their advantage against him. If anything, I think it was the Force itself that allowed the connection/bond/dyad to happen in its attempt to create balance. Similar to how it was arguably the Force that created Anakin in its attempt to fight back against Plagueis' meddling.
@@MYSTICKNIGHT23 the abilities have to be trained, but she was always force sensitive(anakin and ezra being properly realized on how untrained live without knowing they are FS, while luke shows little on that front, though TNH was going to be a single film if it didnt make it big), her survival instincts probably went into overdrive and the force responded in this disney wackado
Very superficial way of explaining dyad in the force. According to you both are acting out of self interest and not out of compassion or because they care for each other. Their connection goes deeper than just sharing great power. Its intimate and deep. They are soulmates basically. Also, we dont see Kylo Ren struggle with the dark side in first two movies? Its seems like we watched completely different movies. Kylo Ren was always conflicted and never truly loyal to the dark side. His struggle is present since the force awakens.
@@HarryG98 I don't think Kylo Ren was ever fully committed to the Dark side. Committment to the dark side affects your appearance, degrading your body like Palpatine and Anakin and possibly leading to yellow eyes. We see In TFA, Kylo Ren's face looks fresh, young and healthy. In TLJ, his face notably looks dull and unhealthy, demonstrating his conflict with the dark/light. But he does not yet have the look of a fully committed dark side force user. In TROS, his face looks amazing after Rey heals him - he looks the healthiest we've ever seen him. But never does he show any sign of full commitment to the dark side like when Anakin's eyes turned yellow. He was always struggling with the light and that's why it was ultimately by Ben's own power does he forsake Kylo Ren and reclaim his identity as Ben Solo after his final fight with Rey.
I agree, both felt a connection with each other, both felt isolated in their situations and both wanted to be understood. Kylo wanted rey to join, not for the siths campaign, but because then he could help her become strong instead of fighting against her.
Idea I got is both bound into one when balance was restored, and by healing Rey, Ben ran out of energy to become one with the force. Since Ben was the “Last Skywalker”, the adoptrd name “Rey Skywalker” has an extra literal meaning
Every time I hear the words force dyad I think of the yin and yang which was correct as you explained. One can’t exist without the other like the dark and light or in this case Rey and Kylo.
Thus confirmation from Disney to have Revan (and Bastilia) as next Star Wars legend put in canon storyline. To explained the meaning and discovery of term "dyad of the Force".
It’s an interesting theory but it’s obvious they added this just to justify Rey’s sudden OP force powers. They also ended up killing off one of the few liked characters in the new movies lol
If Smoke and Palps took advantage of the dyad between Ren and Rey ...could Leia and Luke have also used the dyad to their advantage...training Rey to get to Kylo
@@tarar297 no I don't mean Luke and Leia were a dyad. I meant that they used Rey's Dyad connection to Ben to try and bring him back to the light . . the reason they were open to train a Palpatine.
I’m pretty sure them being a dyad in the force means they are in love with each other cause for someone to give there life for another’s is considered the highest level of respect and love towards someone in the force (also would like to add the only way you give your life for another’s is when your sole is pure and your heart and that persons heart are truely one) So when Rey died ben Truly loved her and gave his life in order to save hers the love they have for each other is shown through the films. Ben solo was able to do this when he was reedemed as a Jedi Rey saw this and her love to awards him was shown If anyone can help finish off what I’m saying then. I think it’s important to see that Rey really did love Ben it’s clear to see this when she said she says the last Jedi you will not bow before snoke you will turn I’ll help you I swear it. Rey wanted to take his hand bens hand the person she knows he is inside the person who’s sole is split to the bone kylo REN died when Rey stabbed him and healed him. All those times ren said that Rey would stand with him he was just missing the point that it would be him standing with her as the last relative of a skywalker and her a palptine. They where ment to be together and jj arbhams thought fuck it let’s ruin the best love story in Star Wars. Ben was living in fear his whole life and in the Star Wars universe we all know where that leads Luke tells Rey fear kept him on the island and master yoda before fear leads to anger anger leads to pain pain leads to suffering. Failure is the biggest teacher and it’s present in all the movies. Poor Ben solo did suffer he was searching for the person he desired to be like but was getting tormented by his feelings for Rey that’s why he could never hurt her. Thank you for reading X
I just rewatched TLJ, too, after seeing it two years ago. I like it a lot more now than I did then, not that I hated it. Time sometimes can change one's perspective and opinion. But then I was just 22 when the saga started, and I've been a fan through thick and thin and the good and not so good since then. It's been a great ride.
Yeah, in retrospect, especially after seeing RoS - with some stupid choices, Rian Johnson sabotaged an otherwise decent film in TLJ - a film the fans might have liked.
Justin Reilly - What is? The reason for Reys unexplained power is satisfied by an unexplained power? The only person confused/annoyed about Rey’s abilities is Kylo and that’s because she is thwarting his efforts. She never questions it, no one else questions it. She doesn’t struggle with understanding why she is able to do these things with literally no training. Someone came up with this force dyad shit, wrote it down and shoved it up abrams ass for him to pull out. I’m so mad at what these movies did to the force. It use to be subtle and now it makes you a superhero.
Does that mean then that when Ben died/became a force ghost, he like...lives on in her? Because at the end when Rey is back on tattooine, she says she’s a skywalker, only Luke & Leia are there, and no Ben. If it’s a whole ‘skywalker’ family thing, it wouldn’t make sense that he isn’t there. Since they’re a force dyad (kinda similar to Harry Potter and Voldemort if you think about it) and they will always be a part of each other, maybe Ben can’t die while Rey is alive, so he’s a force ghost within her, and that’s why she’s a skywalker now? Idk, I’m kinda spitballing here but I think it’s plausible
If Ben was really dead then we would’ve seen him with Luke and Leia’s force ghost (as he is also a Skywalker and she cares about him deeply) at the end of tros. Just like we saw Anakin’s in return of the jedi. I believe he’s alive somehow because one dyad cannot live without the other and i wholeheartedly believe that. Ben Solo deserves better than what he got.
Popular opinion: I liked ROS. Only 42 movies (out of all time) have grossed $1B mark and ROS will definitely join that club. So any claim that ROS is a failure and is the popular opinion is simply ridiculous.
How many of those 42 have came in the last decade? Could you explain the rise in sales with an increased population size? Perhaps fewer poor people? Or more access to theaters?
The apparent sudden obsession with the Chinese market? But all that aside, a financial success is not the same thing as a creative success, and the same goes for failure. A movie can make a billion dollars at the box office and still suck. (Disclaimer: I haven't seen the movie and haven't passed judgement on it one way or the other.)
So more importantly, Anakin's lightsaber is still never Rey's lightsaber in the end. It could be argued that it's now Luke's but I kinda want to see Rey's lightsaber explored a bit more. It's very unique
He didn't know until Palps told him, then when he touched Vader's helmet to show her he knew is when she realized. You can tell her expressions thereafter change to shame when Leia says don't be afraid of who you are.
@@tarar297 May have been rushed, but I personally enjoyed the film. Based on what he was given i think JJ Abrams made a solid ending to the Skywalker Saga
I know I'll probably get torn up for saying this, but this just makes me really want to see more. Of course if there is more to ever be seen, I hope it is written by better storytellers and directed by much better directors, but the raw idea, in and of itself, is just great, in my opinion. It is certainly a welcome change from how I felt after watching The Last Jedi.
It's a shame that the writers didn't focus on that bond between Rey and Kylo/Ben from the beginning and thought it through. Instead of this boring Casino plot in TLJ they could take the time to explore this bond/dyad in detail. Missed opportunity.
Just like the force Dyad on Mortis a conduit where the force was channeled through in the animated series clone wars. Where the Father(maintaining balance ) and Son(dark side ) and Daughter (light side )
MoonLight , my big question is 'why, oh why did Rey not disappear and become one with Ben in the Force when she died?' She died, nothing happened. He died, and his body ceased to exist. WTH??
Okay I wanted to give this the benefit of the doubt but when you said that Rey saved Ren because of SELF INTEREST, I lost interest. How are you blind to love? Why do people have to find other reasons for their bond aside from the obvious one that's right in front of you. It's baffling
Spoiler! The first scene of Episode X is Rey in Tatooine all by herself when suddenly you see a black gloved hand placed on her shoulder and a small smile run through her as she reaches up to take Ben’s hand. He’s alive and well because his mother gave up any last bit of life force in her to revive her son, essentially forcing his life force back into existence. Rey helped him out of Exegol and they’ve been hunkered down on Tatooine for a few months. When in that opening scene, the camera pans out to reveal Finn with a look of absolute horror at the fact that (to him) “Kylo Ren” is alive and she has potentially joined him. Finn has no idea that Kylo Ren is dead and this is Light-Bound Ben Solo. And that Rey has married him and that together they will bring balance to the galaxy through complete knowledge of both dark and light and using it for good. The balance that Qui-Gon Jinn had been talking about all along was THIS. No Jedi can be complete without knowing the dark side that is in their nature. This is the fundamental teachings of the entire Star Wars universe. We are ALL fundamentally flawed and we have to take the good and the bad. Master Yoda said it best, “The greatest teacher, failure is.”
Should’ve been a two part movie to explain everything and have enough time to be the BIG Star Wars movie. Also Ben shouldn’t have gotten that garbage treatment
Maybe, since the force is pretty much all-knowing and exists outside of normal spacetime, they are a dyad in the force BECAUSE eventually Kylo would give his life force to Rey and become one with her. The force doesn't know about time and space so since that eventually was going to happen they were always connected.
Anyway I don't think at all we can talk about egoism. For one in the dark side, maybe also, but it works like love. You wanna give it as you want to receive it. The two fell in love, and Kylo even said "why is the force connecting us". Most likely a mixture of happenings, but definitely the force decided for them to be connected in every way, as we know the force acts to keep balance
Didn't snoke say he initiated the connection between Rey and Kylo? But if now we know Palpatine created/controlled snoke, then how did he not know of the force dyad thing between the two?
I like your videos a lot but one thing i would say is try and mix your vocals on the video bc sometimes you get to loud in the decibels and i gotta turn the volume down in the middle of video just a thought but fr keep doing your thing love the vids
My guess... Rey's force presence/power died at the end when she died and she was brought back by the last of Kylo's force presence/power. So when Kylo died, she just returned to her normal self but probably less powerful than when she and Kylo were at their peak. She and Kylo had been drain of their life force and Kylo having given her what little of it that remained of his. A god level Rey really serves no further narrative exploration for her continuing story in the universe. Granted, with all the changes they made to the force in this latest movie, it's kinda difficult already to go anywhere from this point.
He gave her all of his essence thus two become one. Ben dies after, this was destined to happen. Choices have consequences and he could not go and live a normal life after being the Supreme Leader of the First Order.
@@amber1234love unless somehow Ben use the force bond to slip in Rey and have sex in doing so have gotten her pregnant before searching for The Emperor on Exegol then at the ending scene on Tatoonie with old lady saying who are you speech. Then that would be canon to me.
I wish we'd had some of this explanation in the movies instead of left to speculation . I like this. I've been writing something similar for the past year and a half, so of course I like this idea.
Great post! I think it is time however to let Generation Tech to take over the Star Wars reigns again. C'mon American Ben, y'know you wanna talk about films that don't have lightsabres in them. 😁
I would imagine it would be a pyrrhic victory either way, if one does win, they will be badly beaten from the fight, both are the apex tech-warriors of their respective universes.
Perhaps minorly. While old cannon, KOTOR 2 explains that it occurs often between the master and the apprentice, while the bond in that game and in this movie were some of the strongest possible.
No mention of Luke & Leia in your Force Dyad Theory? They share DNA and are twins. I heard that Leia was not originally supposed to be Luke's twin and episodes 7-9 were supposed to be about Luke's search and discovery of his twin sister. Possibly Lucas planned a Force Dyad around that.
There should have been at been at least one historical event that a dyad already happened. It's just weird that out of nowhere there is this new term happening in their timeline. A piece of history could have made it more elaborate.
Dec 20, 2015 Sunday 1 $60,553,189 -11.3% - 4,134 $14,647 $247,966,675 Dec 17, 2017 Sunday 1 $51,331,888 -19.8% - 4,232 $12,129 $220,009,584 Dec 22, 2019 Sunday 1 $38,000,000 -20% - 4,406 $8,624 $175,500,000 Non inflation nor population growth adjusted dollars. The force is DEAD, not Dyad.
You realise that this video has a better story foundation than the sequel trilogy, right? The Dyad thing probably came about through an "ass-pull" by JJ in trying to explain why they're drawn to each other yet if it was the actual point of the trilogy...well, we'd actually have a decent trilogy on our hands.
@@splashnskillz37 this guy managed to defeat vitati, when vitati was valkorium, who is way more powerfulthan vitati himself. also, when he was valkorium, he tried to take control of the jedi knoght boddy, but with the help of 2 of valkorion children, he managed to win.
@@splashnskillz37 pra mim tanto faz XD eu sou ruim nos 2 pq eu sou dislexo hahaha escrevo tudo errado. mas sim, o "jedi knight" é uma classe do jogo "SWTOR" q é 300 anos depois de KOTOR
the force dyad does this for me for the sequeals but i do have a critimize for the sequeals, it’s the story telling for me, if they keep the same characters for the sequeals and remake them with good story telling i think the sequeals will be great
I found it odd the way that Rey reacted to kylo's death. She was so invested in bringing him back to the light, had a very clear tension between them and loooads of feelings and then, as he RETURNS AS BEN SOLO, FIGHTS ON HER SIDE, KISSES HER, AND DIES TO SAVE HER she goes on JUST FINE. How come??? It's a part of her,one half of a dyad that just passed. I really got annoyed by this. It even feels as she could as well be manipulating him for the sole purpose of getting her victory
Yeah it kind of just seemed like JJ was like, "Hey, let's have them kiss because that'd be cool," and didn't think more of it. The only think I can think of is that because they're a dyad, somehow a part of Ben lives on with her. But yeah, she moved on real quick.
This could explain why this strength with the Force was so weak before the Sequels, too : The Sith wouldn’t want to procreate a contender to their power; and the Jedi didn’t want to have children either; while the Old Republic seemed ti have much stronger (although still rare for their time) Jedi & other unbridled and uncorrupted Force-users; they were all probably descendants of powerful Force-users themselves, and got their genes & midichlorians or smth
I like the video but I don't agree with 7:59 because I thought that the redeemed Ben Solo was awesome while he lasted, I liked his heroic sacrifice to save Rey, and may I remind you that Ben Kenobi's death served a purpose for buying Luke and the gang enough time to escape the Death Star.
But Luke felt the good in Vader, he states it over and over again, and yet they didn't have a 'dryad'. To be honest I feel the one up'ing of the Force in each of the new trilogy movies is ridiculous. It's as if they thought 'we have the Force in these movies and can do ANYTHING!!'.
Very interesting. I too think Rey is the strongest jedi every existed as of now, anyway starting with the fact that she is or can connect to all of the jedi's power, and that it was enough to defeat Palpatine, which was stronger and with the same ability, after that he took the force dyad energy too, so that probably means that with that ability she is the strongest force user ever too
So, why doesn’t anyone remove midichlorians from one person and inject them into another? I mean, they have to have the technology, right? I mean, you could (as the Emperor maybe?) take Midichlorians from Jedi and inject them into all your stormtroopers, train them to use the force and BAM, Sith army. Anyways, just a question I was wondering about
Midichlorians are only a way of measuring how much living force someone has in they're body if you inject a bunch of them into someone they would just starve from the lack of living force that person has to maintain them.
Of course, Kylo's death will strengthen Rey in the Force, because Star Wars is now 'Highlander 2020 ABY' and whatever stray mystical sci-fi concept Disney can shovel into the merchandise.
i enjoyed the movies...i dont get what the fuck people are complaining about....these are good movies. i was highly entertained. i cared about the characters....the first and third were much better than the second but they were all good movies. I've enjoyed myself, and am happy with all the new canon content we get to play with now. the warp maneuver makes complete sense to me....you move in relative space for a while before you dip into subspace. so if you time it just right you can jump into ships BUT to be able to time it properly is randomly variabled....the same location might take anywhere from 35 seconds to enter subspace or much much less...we dont really know how their drives worked and never did....but it is theoretically possible. especially without a dumbass AI doing it for you....we all know how C-3P0 felt about going through an asteroid field....and that was hardly an inconvenience.
i mean... do we realy have to continue talking about the sequel trilogy? :v cant we just ignore it? like, it is bound to be rebooted at some point right?
The main reason that I care about this Force Dyad thing is that I like to think that this makes Rey Ben's wife, which is why her last name is now Skywalker.
@@dugclrk ...dang. Then only other way to claim that she's a Skywalker is to call herself Luke's adopted daughter (which I guess is about as plausible as the Force Dyad Marriage Sacrament Hypothesis).
@@johnhooyer3101 At this point Rey can do or say whatever she wants. She has ALL the Force, or at least the power, or did she suck all the knowledge out of Luck and Yoda too? .
I would speculate they've been latched onto each other in some way ever since he tried to read her mind and she flipped it around on him. Shame they cut all significant mention of this from Episode 9 as it does actually help make some sense of the previous 2 Movies and even justifies the Mary Suedom of Rey. It might also explain to some degree why Kylo looses every fight he gets in too. Or even why Rey heals him - she felt compelled to do so & didn't simply do it as she felt guilty about stabbing him. The downside is it does diminish the Reylo a bit. It also make Kylo seem like a different person up to the point he gets Mentally glued to Rey.
The idea of Rey wandering around the galaxy without her other half is so sad
It also explained why she knew so much in the force without much training but now she'll have to train much harder because she doesn't have access to the skywalker bloodline power
Kylo Ren giving the classic Han Solo "what r u gomna do" gesture when Rey teleported that lightsaber was great.
i enjoyed the movies...i dont get what the fuck people are complaining about....these are good movies. i was highly entertained. i cared about the characters....the first and third were much better than the second but they were all good movies. I've enjoyed myself, and am happy with all the new canon content we get to play with now. the warp maneuver makes complete sense to me....you move in relative space for a while before you dip into subspace. so if you time it just right you can jump into ships BUT to be able to time it properly is randomly variabled....the same location might take anywhere from 35 seconds to enter subspace or much much less...we dont really know how their drives worked and never did....but it is theoretically possible. especially without a dumbass AI doing it for you....we all know how C-3P0 felt about going through an asteroid field....and that was hardly an inconvenience.
So Rey has a channel to the power of the cosmic Force through Ben solo, while Ben solo has a channel to corporeal existence through Rey. Essentially, neither one can really die while the other one lives. I think this means that the Skywalker saga, as Disney likes to call it, is nowhere near finished. This leaves open way too many possibilities. I think all it means is that the storyline seeded from the original trilogy, is over.
Harold White I am gonna hope this true so I can sleep at night lol
I question if JJ/CT really thought that deep though. Because looking at their recent interviews, it seems to me like they didn't know or understand half the shit they were pulling off.
@@NaomiTCOOKIES yup, they pulled alot of shit out of their asses
if this is true, ben is still alive
@@_apsis once a force ghost always a force ghost
I know one thing Google dyad searches have gone up a thousand percent over the last several days since rise of Skywalker came out LOL
Maurice St.Pierre 😂😂
99%, few people cared before star wars did... and i deny its canonity
I think the bond was initiated when kylo went into her mind and she his on tfa
dronetown yeah I think so too. From that point it activated the force in rey and from then rey started using the force
So then Snoke did lie about bridging their minds? Because I always thought (1) that's not how the Force works and (2) he/Palps didn't seem to know shit about the testament of Rey & Ben's bond considering they've consistently used it to their advantage against him. If anything, I think it was the Force itself that allowed the connection/bond/dyad to happen in its attempt to create balance. Similar to how it was arguably the Force that created Anakin in its attempt to fight back against Plagueis' meddling.
@@NaomiTCOOKIES that's so trueeee
@@MYSTICKNIGHT23 the abilities have to be trained, but she was always force sensitive(anakin and ezra being properly realized on how untrained live without knowing they are FS, while luke shows little on that front, though TNH was going to be a single film if it didnt make it big), her survival instincts probably went into overdrive and the force responded in this disney wackado
Very superficial way of explaining dyad in the force. According to you both are acting out of self interest and not out of compassion or because they care for each other. Their connection goes deeper than just sharing great power. Its intimate and deep. They are soulmates basically. Also, we dont see Kylo Ren struggle with the dark side in first two movies? Its seems like we watched completely different movies. Kylo Ren was always conflicted and never truly loyal to the dark side. His struggle is present since the force awakens.
because he was fully committed to the dark side in tros, until ray injured him and healed him which started the path back to the light.
@@HarryG98 I don't think Kylo Ren was ever fully committed to the Dark side. Committment to the dark side affects your appearance, degrading your body like Palpatine and Anakin and possibly leading to yellow eyes. We see In TFA, Kylo Ren's face looks fresh, young and healthy. In TLJ, his face notably looks dull and unhealthy, demonstrating his conflict with the dark/light. But he does not yet have the look of a fully committed dark side force user. In TROS, his face looks amazing after Rey heals him - he looks the healthiest we've ever seen him. But never does he show any sign of full commitment to the dark side like when Anakin's eyes turned yellow. He was always struggling with the light and that's why it was ultimately by Ben's own power does he forsake Kylo Ren and reclaim his identity as Ben Solo after his final fight with Rey.
I agree with you. This explanation totally ignored their love for each other.
I agree, both felt a connection with each other, both felt isolated in their situations and both wanted to be understood. Kylo wanted rey to join, not for the siths campaign, but because then he could help her become strong instead of fighting against her.
100snowy that’s how I understood it also. That they were basically the same soul split into two beings.
Now I’m convinced the force shipped reylo
Yh Snoke,Pelps and the force were the no.1 shippers lol
Hahha
Idea I got is both bound into one when balance was restored, and by healing Rey, Ben ran out of energy to become one with the force. Since Ben was the “Last Skywalker”, the adoptrd name “Rey Skywalker” has an extra literal meaning
That meaning is they will have a word that is starting in B Ending in Y
Every time I hear the words force dyad I think of the yin and yang which was correct as you explained. One can’t exist without the other like the dark and light or in this case Rey and Kylo.
I love the idea behind it because in THE OLD REPUBLIC we will be able to explore one of the most *ancient dyads* ....
*Revan and Bastilla Shan.*
Agustín Baletti yeah buddy!!
Meetra Surik too... Dyad master haha... battle meditation and Force persuasion her party into battle and train them as jedi
Thus confirmation from Disney to have Revan (and Bastilia) as next Star Wars legend put in canon storyline.
To explained the meaning and discovery of term "dyad of the Force".
Or Kreia and Exile
Rey & Kylo = Inverse Romeo & Juliet?
Yes please ............
Yes. Also reverse Anidala. They were always meant to be
So basically they're soul mates / Force mates
Basically its bs. LMAO
@@joseandembow5032 still canon 😏
Lol. For a special few
@@joseandembow5032 Visual dictionary, and the writers/directors of the film say otherwise. Maybe it's not canon for a special few.
@@NaomiTCOOKIES ok fan girl. Move on
It’s an interesting theory but it’s obvious they added this just to justify Rey’s sudden OP force powers. They also ended up killing off one of the few liked characters in the new movies lol
If Smoke and Palps took advantage of the dyad between Ren and Rey ...could Leia and Luke have also used the dyad to their advantage...training Rey to get to Kylo
I guess that's what happened, but it was mostly Leia
Luke & Leia weren't a dyad. "Unseen for generations" -Palps
@@tarar297 no I don't mean Luke and Leia were a dyad. I meant that they used Rey's Dyad connection to Ben to try and bring him back to the light . . the reason they were open to train a Palpatine.
@@neishachetty1998 oops my bad!
Soooooooo let's talk about how Rey can bring Ben back....(gets fan fiction pen ready....totally prepared to just go with Ben force ghost)
EXOTIC BUTTERS thinking about this for daaaays and already have some ideas but Idk how to put it all together 😩😂
This is me rn
I’m pretty sure them being a dyad in the force means they are in love with each other cause for someone to give there life for another’s is considered the highest level of respect and love towards someone in the force (also would like to add the only way you give your life for another’s is when your sole is pure and your heart and that persons heart are truely one) So when Rey died ben Truly loved her and gave his life in order to save hers the love they have for each other is shown through the films. Ben solo was able to do this when he was reedemed as a Jedi Rey saw this and her love to awards him was shown If anyone can help finish off what I’m saying then. I think it’s important to see that Rey really did love Ben it’s clear to see this when she said she says the last Jedi you will not bow before snoke you will turn I’ll help you I swear it. Rey wanted to take his hand bens hand the person she knows he is inside the person who’s sole is split to the bone kylo REN died when Rey stabbed him and healed him. All those times ren said that Rey would stand with him he was just missing the point that it would be him standing with her as the last relative of a skywalker and her a palptine. They where ment to be together and jj arbhams thought fuck it let’s ruin the best love story in Star Wars. Ben was living in fear his whole life and in the Star Wars universe we all know where that leads Luke tells Rey fear kept him on the island and master yoda before fear leads to anger anger leads to pain pain leads to suffering. Failure is the biggest teacher and it’s present in all the movies. Poor Ben solo did suffer he was searching for the person he desired to be like but was getting tormented by his feelings for Rey that’s why he could never hurt her. Thank you for reading X
Hayden Baxter love everything you said 🙏
Hayden Baxter
When reylo becomes canon:
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Ben dies 10 seconds later:
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Kia Ghezel-Ayagh literally I got so mad started crying out of anger
Alonzo R thank you I managed to add more now
Hayden Baxter pretty much
I just rewatched TLJ, too, after seeing it two years ago. I like it a lot more now than I did then, not that I hated it. Time sometimes can change one's perspective and opinion. But then I was just 22 when the saga started, and I've been a fan through thick and thin and the good and not so good since then. It's been a great ride.
Yeah, in retrospect, especially after seeing RoS - with some stupid choices, Rian Johnson sabotaged an otherwise decent film in TLJ - a film the fans might have liked.
And suddenly the reason Rey was able to take the training from kylo in the force awakens is clear
That's a really good point!
Justin Reilly - What is? The reason for Reys unexplained power is satisfied by an unexplained power? The only person confused/annoyed about Rey’s abilities is Kylo and that’s because she is thwarting his efforts. She never questions it, no one else questions it. She doesn’t struggle with understanding why she is able to do these things with literally no training. Someone came up with this force dyad shit, wrote it down and shoved it up abrams ass for him to pull out.
I’m so mad at what these movies did to the force. It use to be subtle and now it makes you a superhero.
That shit is dumb
Rey and Kylo should have just done the fusion dance to defeat old Palpy McScrotum Face.
wait for the deleted scenes, theyll have 100s of references from other movies/tv/anime
@@tenryuta they'll draw the force energy of everyone in the whole galaxy into a force bomb.
@@Raeinok super satele tk burst?(satele vs Magnus from swtor)
@@tenryuta something like that, i was more referencing Dragon Ball Z
@@Raeinok I know, I watched all of z and gt and the 13 movies
I feel like she got stronger when Ben gave her his force energy.
Twss (sorry I had to 😂)
isnt that RoS porn parody?
Does that mean then that when Ben died/became a force ghost, he like...lives on in her? Because at the end when Rey is back on tattooine, she says she’s a skywalker, only Luke & Leia are there, and no Ben. If it’s a whole ‘skywalker’ family thing, it wouldn’t make sense that he isn’t there. Since they’re a force dyad (kinda similar to Harry Potter and Voldemort if you think about it) and they will always be a part of each other, maybe Ben can’t die while Rey is alive, so he’s a force ghost within her, and that’s why she’s a skywalker now?
Idk, I’m kinda spitballing here but I think it’s plausible
Only way I'll be ok with Ben not being there
If Ben was really dead then we would’ve seen him with
Luke and Leia’s force ghost (as he is also a Skywalker and she cares about him deeply) at the end of tros. Just like we saw Anakin’s in return of the jedi. I believe he’s alive somehow because one dyad cannot live without the other and i wholeheartedly believe that. Ben Solo deserves better than what he got.
Popular opinion: I liked ROS. Only 42 movies (out of all time) have grossed $1B mark and ROS will definitely join that club. So any claim that ROS is a failure and is the popular opinion is simply ridiculous.
How many of those 42 have came in the last decade? Could you explain the rise in sales with an increased population size? Perhaps fewer poor people? Or more access to theaters?
The apparent sudden obsession with the Chinese market?
But all that aside, a financial success is not the same thing as a creative success, and the same goes for failure. A movie can make a billion dollars at the box office and still suck.
(Disclaimer: I haven't seen the movie and haven't passed judgement on it one way or the other.)
So more importantly, Anakin's lightsaber is still never Rey's lightsaber in the end. It could be argued that it's now Luke's but I kinda want to see Rey's lightsaber explored a bit more. It's very unique
if ben knew that rey was a palpatine the whole time
how was rey not able to see into kylo's mind and figure it out?
He didn't know until Palps told him, then when he touched Vader's helmet to show her he knew is when she realized. You can tell her expressions thereafter change to shame when Leia says don't be afraid of who you are.
@@tarar297 thanks, that's a really small detail i didn't notice!
@@osiang2919 I didn't catch it till the second time I watched. This movie was so rushed!
@@tarar297 May have been rushed, but I personally enjoyed the film. Based on what he was given i think JJ Abrams made a solid ending to the Skywalker Saga
Bond...Force Bond.
It sounds like a force bond like between Bastilla and Revan or more accurately Kreia and Meetra.
Confirmation from Disney in having Knights of Old Republic to be canon (starting with Revan [including Bastilia]).
I know I'll probably get torn up for saying this, but this just makes me really want to see more. Of course if there is more to ever be seen, I hope it is written by better storytellers and directed by much better directors, but the raw idea, in and of itself, is just great, in my opinion. It is certainly a welcome change from how I felt after watching The Last Jedi.
It's a shame that the writers didn't focus on that bond between Rey and Kylo/Ben from the beginning and thought it through. Instead of this boring Casino plot in TLJ they could take the time to explore this bond/dyad in detail. Missed opportunity.
I love seeing American Ben Make these videos it's a great explanation of the force 😎
Thx!
Just like the force Dyad on Mortis a conduit where the force was channeled through in the animated series clone wars. Where the Father(maintaining balance ) and Son(dark side ) and Daughter (light side )
Disney better respect these characters that George and Dave created for Thw Clone Wars.
It developed through the power of plot convenience.
MoonLight , my big question is 'why, oh why did Rey not disappear and become one with Ben in the Force when she died?' She died, nothing happened. He died, and his body ceased to exist. WTH??
Okay I wanted to give this the benefit of the doubt but when you said that Rey saved Ren because of SELF INTEREST, I lost interest. How are you blind to love? Why do people have to find other reasons for their bond aside from the obvious one that's right in front of you. It's baffling
Ben's only disappoint when their without Allen
Great video! Thanks for sharing and not trashing the movie. I really liked the dyad concept!
Hey thanks for watching!
😁😁👋
Spoiler! The first scene of Episode X is Rey in Tatooine all by herself when suddenly you see a black gloved hand placed on her shoulder and a small smile run through her as she reaches up to take Ben’s hand. He’s alive and well because his mother gave up any last bit of life force in her to revive her son, essentially forcing his life force back into existence. Rey helped him out of Exegol and they’ve been hunkered down on Tatooine for a few months. When in that opening scene, the camera pans out to reveal Finn with a look of absolute horror at the fact that (to him) “Kylo Ren” is alive and she has potentially joined him. Finn has no idea that Kylo Ren is dead and this is Light-Bound Ben Solo. And that Rey has married him and that together they will bring balance to the galaxy through complete knowledge of both dark and light and using it for good.
The balance that Qui-Gon Jinn had been talking about all along was THIS. No Jedi can be complete without knowing the dark side that is in their nature. This is the fundamental teachings of the entire Star Wars universe. We are ALL fundamentally flawed and we have to take the good and the bad. Master Yoda said it best, “The greatest teacher, failure is.”
Should’ve been a two part movie to explain everything and have enough time to be the BIG Star Wars movie. Also Ben shouldn’t have gotten that garbage treatment
While watching it, they reminded me of Revan and Bastila Shaun
@David Murphy ... 😂
David Murphy 😂😂
Maybe, since the force is pretty much all-knowing and exists outside of normal spacetime, they are a dyad in the force BECAUSE eventually Kylo would give his life force to Rey and become one with her. The force doesn't know about time and space so since that eventually was going to happen they were always connected.
Anyway I don't think at all we can talk about egoism. For one in the dark side, maybe also, but it works like love. You wanna give it as you want to receive it. The two fell in love, and Kylo even said "why is the force connecting us". Most likely a mixture of happenings, but definitely the force decided for them to be connected in every way, as we know the force acts to keep balance
Or JJ made up some BS. "Man Johnson really screwed up. I'm going to have to retcon the hell out of this thing."
Is it a bad thing though that JJ retconned some parts of TLJ?
I rather see it as a "fuck you" to RJ
@@sheevone4359 I don't think it mattered what he did, there is no coming back from TLJ
Didn't snoke say he initiated the connection between Rey and Kylo? But if now we know Palpatine created/controlled snoke, then how did he not know of the force dyad thing between the two?
who were the other force dyed before ben and rey ? :O
Damn. If I never hear 'force bond' again, it'll be too soon.
Finn is Mace Windus son
TYSM for this content...in retrospect it casts a fascinating new light on the ST🤘😜
Yo, thx for watching tho! 😁
Brilliant perspective clarity. Thank you.
I like your videos a lot but one thing i would say is try and mix your vocals on the video bc sometimes you get to loud in the decibels and i gotta turn the volume down in the middle of video just a thought but fr keep doing your thing love the vids
My guess... Rey's force presence/power died at the end when she died and she was brought back by the last of Kylo's force presence/power. So when Kylo died, she just returned to her normal self but probably less powerful than when she and Kylo were at their peak. She and Kylo had been drain of their life force and Kylo having given her what little of it that remained of his.
A god level Rey really serves no further narrative exploration for her continuing story in the universe. Granted, with all the changes they made to the force in this latest movie, it's kinda difficult already to go anywhere from this point.
Disney Wars can come up with however many explanations they want, doesn’t change that the Disney Trilogy is fucked.
He gave her all of his essence thus two become one. Ben dies after, this was destined to happen. Choices have consequences and he could not go and live a normal life after being the Supreme Leader of the First Order.
I love you... where the heck is Allen
@@NightRaven-lh1bf Ben is naive to be in Star Wars content
I still think Rey and Ben should have died together. I don't hate Rey but I feel like it would have been more meaningful
I agree with you
In the next movie, they will have the ultimate force technique, force f**k
not watching that.
Yes and they will have the most powerful force babies !
@@amber1234love unless somehow Ben use the force bond to slip in Rey and have sex in doing so have gotten her pregnant before searching for The Emperor on Exegol then at the ending scene on Tatoonie with old lady saying who are you speech. Then that would be canon to me.
@@amber1234love And that's how baby Yoda was made.
It’s already been a thing. Even can be done retroactively.
I wish we'd had some of this explanation in the movies instead of left to speculation . I like this. I've been writing something similar for the past year and a half, so of course I like this idea.
Great post! I think it is time however to let Generation Tech to take over the Star Wars reigns again. C'mon American Ben, y'know you wanna talk about films that don't have lightsabres in them. 😁
Dyad was known to ancient jedi and sith.
Usually come from 2 powerful leneages (palpatine Skywalker)
And that was sidious intention
Predator vs mandalorian who would win
Mando...merely because he has baby Yoda on his side and the Predator just has that Alien child of Ripley"s
I would imagine it would be a pyrrhic victory either way, if one does win, they will be badly beaten from the fight, both are the apex tech-warriors of their respective universes.
At least the Reylo kiss is better than the Luke and Leia kiss.
And more common scenes too. LOL!
What if Obi Wan and Anakin Skywalker were in a force dyad with each other
Perhaps minorly. While old cannon, KOTOR 2 explains that it occurs often between the master and the apprentice, while the bond in that game and in this movie were some of the strongest possible.
Rey has the same ability as Cal she touched him and touched his mind she knows him better than anyone.
Isn’t Rey for the time being the Jedi avatar?
No mention of Luke & Leia in your Force Dyad Theory? They share DNA and are twins. I heard that Leia was not originally supposed to be Luke's twin and episodes 7-9 were supposed to be about Luke's search and discovery of his twin sister. Possibly Lucas planned a Force Dyad around that.
There should have been at been at least one historical event that a dyad already happened. It's just weird that out of nowhere there is this new term happening in their timeline. A piece of history could have made it more elaborate.
Who even cares anymore? The franchise is just a big messy dumpster fire at this point.
Dec 20, 2015 Sunday 1 $60,553,189 -11.3% - 4,134 $14,647 $247,966,675
Dec 17, 2017 Sunday 1 $51,331,888 -19.8% - 4,232 $12,129 $220,009,584
Dec 22, 2019 Sunday 1 $38,000,000 -20% - 4,406 $8,624 $175,500,000 Non inflation nor population growth adjusted dollars. The force is DEAD, not Dyad.
You realise that this video has a better story foundation than the sequel trilogy, right? The Dyad thing probably came about through an "ass-pull" by JJ in trying to explain why they're drawn to each other yet if it was the actual point of the trilogy...well, we'd actually have a decent trilogy on our hands.
It's basically Force Skype
instant spoilers in the title be like
in my iew, the strongest jedi who ever existed is the "jedi knight" from swotor, who managed to defeat vitatti (the sith emperor) twice.
Revan
@@splashnskillz37 no i dont mean revan, the "Jedi knight" also defeated revan
@@splashnskillz37 this guy managed to defeat vitati, when vitati was valkorium, who is way more powerfulthan vitati himself.
also, when he was valkorium, he tried to take control of the jedi knoght boddy, but with the help of 2 of valkorion children, he managed to win.
@@joaosoares-rr5mj se quiser pode fala em português q eu entendo
@@splashnskillz37 pra mim tanto faz XD eu sou ruim nos 2 pq eu sou dislexo hahaha escrevo tudo errado.
mas sim, o "jedi knight" é uma classe do jogo "SWTOR" q é 300 anos depois de KOTOR
I just have one question...who wore the v neck t shirt first, you or Alan? Lol
Force Dyad. So rare and unique that not even the creator 100% knows much about it.
the force dyad does this for me for the sequeals but i do have a critimize for the sequeals, it’s the story telling for me, if they keep the same characters for the sequeals and remake them with good story telling i think the sequeals will be great
red alert spoilers ahead
I found it odd the way that Rey reacted to kylo's death. She was so invested in bringing him back to the light, had a very clear tension between them and loooads of feelings and then, as he RETURNS AS BEN SOLO, FIGHTS ON HER SIDE, KISSES HER, AND DIES TO SAVE HER she goes on JUST FINE. How come??? It's a part of her,one half of a dyad that just passed. I really got annoyed by this. It even feels as she could as well be manipulating him for the sole purpose of getting her victory
Yeah it kind of just seemed like JJ was like, "Hey, let's have them kiss because that'd be cool," and didn't think more of it. The only think I can think of is that because they're a dyad, somehow a part of Ben lives on with her. But yeah, she moved on real quick.
This could explain why this strength with the Force was so weak before the Sequels, too : The Sith wouldn’t want to procreate a contender to their power; and the Jedi didn’t want to have children either; while the Old Republic seemed ti have much stronger (although still rare for their time) Jedi & other unbridled and uncorrupted Force-users; they were all probably descendants of powerful Force-users themselves, and got their genes & midichlorians or smth
I like the video but I don't agree with 7:59 because I thought that the redeemed Ben Solo was awesome while he lasted, I liked his heroic sacrifice to save Rey, and may I remind you that Ben Kenobi's death served a purpose for buying Luke and the gang enough time to escape the Death Star.
But Luke felt the good in Vader, he states it over and over again, and yet they didn't have a 'dryad'. To be honest I feel the one up'ing of the Force in each of the new trilogy movies is ridiculous. It's as if they thought 'we have the Force in these movies and can do ANYTHING!!'.
@Generation Films can you look into the tie fighters that go light speed at the beginning of the film? New model or what?
That was established in the first movies data. The First Order has always had hyperspace capable tie fighters.
Can anyone point me towards the art at 1:40 please?
The force is basically just people who have very strong wills and change the philiotes that bind everything. Ender's Quartet anyone???
What if Baby Yoda and Anakin were a Dyad?
And then they kissed .........
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Very interesting. I too think Rey is the strongest jedi every existed as of now, anyway starting with the fact that she is or can connect to all of the jedi's power, and that it was enough to defeat Palpatine, which was stronger and with the same ability, after that he took the force dyad energy too, so that probably means that with that ability she is the strongest force user ever too
This video feels... forced.
I'll show myself out.
Good to see a positive like to dislike ratio... wait, this is just gonna be a video where they shit on the movie isn’t it?
No need to worry.
The film was spoiled on launch.
Wow did not a lot of people get notified of this or what
So, why doesn’t anyone remove midichlorians from one person and inject them into another? I mean, they have to have the technology, right? I mean, you could (as the Emperor maybe?) take Midichlorians from Jedi and inject them into all your stormtroopers, train them to use the force and BAM, Sith army. Anyways, just a question I was wondering about
Midichlorians are only a way of measuring how much living force someone has in they're body if you inject a bunch of them into someone they would just starve from the lack of living force that person has to maintain them.
space chi masters
Where’s Allen?
Rule of 2
Of course, Kylo's death will strengthen Rey in the Force, because Star Wars is now 'Highlander 2020 ABY' and whatever stray mystical sci-fi concept Disney can shovel into the merchandise.
When can we get back to “How to Survive Film” next can we see jaw to survive King Kong of skull island?
i enjoyed the movies...i dont get what the fuck people are complaining about....these are good movies. i was highly entertained. i cared about the characters....the first and third were much better than the second but they were all good movies. I've enjoyed myself, and am happy with all the new canon content we get to play with now. the warp maneuver makes complete sense to me....you move in relative space for a while before you dip into subspace. so if you time it just right you can jump into ships BUT to be able to time it properly is randomly variabled....the same location might take anywhere from 35 seconds to enter subspace or much much less...we dont really know how their drives worked and never did....but it is theoretically possible. especially without a dumbass AI doing it for you....we all know how C-3P0 felt about going through an asteroid field....and that was hardly an inconvenience.
Isn't this all head cannon???
i mean... do we realy have to continue talking about the sequel trilogy? :v cant we just ignore it? like, it is bound to be rebooted at some point right?
No American Ben!
The main reason that I care about this Force Dyad thing is that I like to think that this makes Rey Ben's wife, which is why her last name is now Skywalker.
Her last name would have been Solo.
@@dugclrk ...dang. Then only other way to claim that she's a Skywalker is to call herself Luke's adopted daughter (which I guess is about as plausible as the Force Dyad Marriage Sacrament Hypothesis).
@@johnhooyer3101 At this point Rey can do or say whatever she wants. She has ALL the Force, or at least the power, or did she suck all the knowledge out of Luck and Yoda too? .
I would speculate they've been latched onto each other in some way ever since he tried to read her mind and she flipped it around on him. Shame they cut all significant mention of this from Episode 9 as it does actually help make some sense of the previous 2 Movies and even justifies the Mary Suedom of Rey. It might also explain to some degree why Kylo looses every fight he gets in too. Or even why Rey heals him - she felt compelled to do so & didn't simply do it as she felt guilty about stabbing him.
The downside is it does diminish the Reylo a bit. It also make Kylo seem like a different person up to the point he gets Mentally glued to Rey.
The dyad is JJ & Rian. Rian undid what JJ set up and then JJ undid what Rian set up. The perfect dyad of opposing forces