Christian Sinding - Piano Sonata in B minor, Op.91 (Lowenthal)

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  • Christian Sinding - Piano Sonata in B minor, Op.91 (1909)
    Pf : Jerome Lowenthal (2009.10.13)
    • Sinding: Piano Music
    00:00 -- I. Allegro non troppo
    10:08 -- II. Andante
    15:07 -- III. Vivace
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  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Let me be very clear. Both in a architectural, melodic and harmonic sense, this sonata is a pure masterwork, close to the spirit of the awesome Liszt's one in the same tonality, and should deserve much more than being totally forgotten nowadays.

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Please don't touch the greatest piano work of the 19th century. The tonality is the only fact, which they have together

    • @gerardbegni2806
      @gerardbegni2806 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@andreassorg7294 No question to touch anytthing.. You don(t touch the Beethoven sonatas, variations, symphonies, quartets, when recognizing that thay had a major impact on Schubert, Schumann, Brahms, Wagner, Liszt, Franck, Saint Saens Mahler, Reger, and even later on Hindemith, Schoenberg, Berg, Bartok, Honegger for instance. The truth is quite opposite; having infleunced so many diverse composers for so long just prove Beethoven's genius. Study in detail the two scores, including paisistic weiting and harmonies, then study the architectural key features. The inluence of Liszt(s sonata over Sinf ding is quite obvious, in poarallel with other ones: Schumann, Chopin, Grieg. We wille never have the opportunity to meet together, otherwise I could show you these keyinfleunces by lloking carefully at the two scores. .

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gerardbegni2806 Of course all minor piano composers after Liszt, who couldn't find some independance of him (like f. e. Brahms, Debussy, Ravel, Skrjabin, who found), stood under his influence, less or more, but I don't see any obvious influence of Liszt's sonata in this piece, except the pianistic challenges. Please explain it to me. Schumann's influence is too obvious. Sinding stole the main theme from Schumann's 2nd piano sonata. But, in fact, Sinding's sonata is, although I like it a little bit, 3rd range in quality

    • @gerardbegni2806
      @gerardbegni2806 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andreassorg7294 I can agree with you on the fact that Sinding writes melodic themes while Liszt (who wrote such themes in other works) perfers here to work with flexible crlls and a ample chordal theme.

    • @andreassorg7294
      @andreassorg7294 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gerardbegni2806 what is crlls??

  • @pianoish
    @pianoish ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The descending melody in the first movement is reminding me so much of the first movement of Schumann’s second piano sonata. 9:00

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Something Incredible, and Incredible feelings

  • @vicentetrompieri
    @vicentetrompieri ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome formal unity.

  • @darijadrazovic
    @darijadrazovic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant!

  • @teslacuil1437
    @teslacuil1437 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This sends me

  • @xnotz1930
    @xnotz1930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:45 the best drop in all of piano and 8:31

  • @ulengrau6357
    @ulengrau6357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very “early Faure” sound. Pretty cool.

  • @user-ue9nv2oj1d
    @user-ue9nv2oj1d ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Очень пианистичное произведение,как у меня в детстве,в СССР,по радио передавали именно такую музыку

  • @user-gv6jg5mn4w
    @user-gv6jg5mn4w ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good 굿 ナイス

  • @mckernan603
    @mckernan603 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Feels like a 20-min toccata

    • @stacia6678
      @stacia6678 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the result of a music not intricately and carefully composed and thought of (take the Beethoven Appasionata F minor): the result is a sequence of unending, unfiltered, useless chords and themes that are either derivative or pointless.

  • @tackontitan
    @tackontitan ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful recording! The high E above the treble staff is out of tune though

  • @syroyid
    @syroyid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic sonata. Reminded my a bit of B-flat sonata by Schubert with the repeated ostinato

  • @classicallpvault8251
    @classicallpvault8251 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The performance is excellent but am I the only one who notices that the piano sounds slightly off in the upper registers?

  • @jesemepardens9151
    @jesemepardens9151 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    15:43 this reminds me of Rach 3 : perhaps he was inspired by this sonata

    • @OctoPlaysPiano
      @OctoPlaysPiano ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, sounds very similar

    • @AinSoph73
      @AinSoph73 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, Rachmaninoff had good taste in music

    • @jesemepardens9151
      @jesemepardens9151 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AinSoph73 what's not so tasteful in that piece ?

    • @AinSoph73
      @AinSoph73 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jesemepardens9151 all the “melodies” are just blehhh; come on, Rach 3 even the strings before the piano entrance sound good

    • @jesemepardens9151
      @jesemepardens9151 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AinSoph73 ok but that doesn't mean Rachmaninoff had to dislike it ! But who knows? Maybe he didn't even know of that piece

  • @robertwalker2052
    @robertwalker2052 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best thing is that it is NOT "Rustle of Spring".

    • @classicallpvault8251
      @classicallpvault8251 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is an almost identical downward cadence at 3:26 also found in 'Frühlingsrauschen' actually, and in general the first movement actually sounds similar to it but worked out on a grander scale and with more thematic material and development.

  • @Yonatan...
    @Yonatan... ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i dont fucking know whos siding but nice piece i guess

  • @andreassorg7294
    @andreassorg7294 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:37 probably Sinding gave the permission to Loewenthal to play forte instead of piano by Whatsapp

  • @republiccooper
    @republiccooper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just find the first movement had to much energy. It's as if the ear has no repose. Maybe I need to listen some other time.

    • @qqyoung2899
      @qqyoung2899 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lowenthal plays it very energetic (which I like), but if you prefer the first movement to be more calm, try listening to Mark Ehrenfried playing this

  • @andreassorg7294
    @andreassorg7294 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1st movement's main theme is stolen from Schumann's 2nd piano sonata

  • @andreassorg7294
    @andreassorg7294 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know, why I like this composer, although he produces nothing else than sequences with empty pathos

  • @crimeancomposer
    @crimeancomposer ปีที่แล้ว

    It's after chopin raindrop. Prelude
    Not like piano sonata