00:00:00 MA v Karen Read Day 4 00:13:55 ON THE RECORD 00:20:36 (Cont.) STATE’S #9 KATIE MCLAUGHLIN, FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC - CANTON FIRE DEPT. 01:48:05 JURY GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS, LEAVES FOR JURY VIEW OF CRIME SCENE 01:58:54 OJP - Outside the Jury's Presence 02:03:47 OFF THE RECORD: Jury View 03:47:30 STATE’S #10 GREGORY WOODBURY, LT. PARAMEDIC CANTON FIRE DEPT. 04:07:27 Break 05:10:04 Cont. STATE’S #10 GREGORY WOODBURY, LT. PARAMEDIC CANTON FIRE DEPT. 05:42:05 STATE’S #11 DANIEL WHITLEY PARAMEDIC/FIREFIGHTER, CANTON FIRE 06:10:55 STATE’S #12 JASON BECKER, FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC, CANTON FIRE #CourtTV Catch up on all the facts of the case against #KarenRead, Killer Or Cover-Up #MurderTrial. ⚖👇 MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?
The judge is SO SO SO INAPPROPRIATE telling the lawyers to wrap it up with the questioning, the heavy sighs when defense team is croas examining, the constant sidebars, the interrupting, and constantly siding with the state, that is maddening.. She over rules all of the defenses objections, and sustains all the states. If, and that is a real maybe, Karen somehow gets convicted, there will likely be grounds for appeals!
Yes. She didn't even let the defense re-cross once and other teams told them to make it brief...this Woman's life is on the line. She should not be so one-sided and sighing, etc...
Not to mention the judge literally hears the start of the word objection come from the state and she sustains it and then hears the prosecution object and immediately overrules.
@@brip8501 I think you mean she overrules the defence objecting , if not actually hear her say overruled all I hear is her saying oh he can have that one which is unprofessional
What was the reasoning for denying a recusal of judge due to conflict of interest? Seems like a valid request .....you can see the bias and that's not good in any case, ever. Clown show IMO. . Glad the FBI is watching closely.
Very unprofessional. Oooh she’s a power trip Judge for sure. No matter what each side argues she’ll say “It’s at my discretion and I’m allowing it or overruled” Also her asking the question if Objection made and she’ll say is that what you said or remember? Oooh then watch her get up take that photo from that witness firefighter I was waiting for Alan to say your honor or something. Worst Parrrt is hearing judge explain how long the situation is or what not. Then she explains to the Jury I’m sorry don’t want to waist your time. That’s totally uncool Then one of her other court trials she did not pick the head juror. So that was a lie to Jackson that the judge always gets to pick that. Smh 🤦🏽♀️ Is it true she’s being investigated as well? Others had heard and seen her crying after ppl on suits left her chambers. So I wonder if this is her way of revenge as Alan Jackson hit a grand slam home run in her court that she was doing everything even corruption to get back at him silently. As she thinks it’s because of him and this case that has her being investigated hmm 🧐 or all those things are huge gossip/rumors. Idk 🤷🏻♀️ all of this is suspect Many of Judges rulings and her actions in court are noticeable that’s 10000000000%%%% for sure. Evil step mommy Bev “I’ll get you my pretty” That’s what I see Bev doing in her chambers 🤷🏻♀️ as meaning she’ll get KR
Katie McLaughlin: Respectfully, i think my testimony has been pretty consistent. Anyone with a brain: Yes, Katie, your lies have been pretty consistent since Jan 29, 2022.
I doubt that she can remember what her testimony has been let alone whether it's been consistent!!! Thst girl has no conscience whatsoever! Shameful lack of respect for the law. She's a paramedic ffs. Should be sacked immediately. Lied through her teeth and didn't even blush!
Is it me or does this judge not like Karen Reed's attorneys? The attorney asks to see the last picture then they judge asked to see the last picture for no reason and then attorney asks to approach and see it again?? strange energy coming from the judge. Why don't she want the juries to see this? Hmm. How CORRUPT does it get?
I have been wondering the same! Maybe this state doesn’t require a reason for an objection? Not to mention the judge literally hears the start of the word objection come from the state and she sustains it and then hears the prosecution object and immediately overrules.
The judge has asked for the grounds to objection not to be stated in this case just to object and if xhe requires more she will go side bar this was agreed by both parties prior , the judge doesn't really need them to say the grounds for an objection it's easy to see what the grounds are it's just saving time .
Most Judges rule on "NO speaking objections" but this judge, is making sure the jury doesn't hear any truth from the defense. It will cause appellate issues for sure!!
The judge sighing over evidence is disgraceful. This woman isn’t responsible for upholding law, she’s more like a damn hall monitor who relies on lollipops that let you skip class! She’s lazy, bias and has little to NO tolerance left between being charged and verdict!
I have watched a LOT of trials and I. Have NEVER seen a judge furiously writing notes in a book and jumping up frequently saying “let me see those”. Guess she’s gotta get her facts for when she speaks to the Albert fam.
You'd think that the audio dept would be aware that the prosecutor and the defense attorney can barely be heard when they talk from that podium. The witnesses can be heard great. WAKE UP audio dept!
The words we heard (few), the words responders didn’t think important enough to document, or the words that have suddenly been remembered by others? Can you be precise because so far, not one witness for the state has been.
I think that even if she said those words, it does not prove anything about her guilt. She could have genuinely thought that it was possible to have hit him with her car, because any other possibility would be unfathomable at the time. But just because you feel guilty for something when you're in a state of shock, does not mean you actually are.
Most Judges rule on "NO speaking objections" but this judge, is making sure the jury doesn't hear any truth from the defense. It will cause appellate issues for sure!!
Katie McLaughlin lied to her teeth, not knowing Caitlyn Albert. Also, they were in the same graduation year as Joseph McCabe. More tight knit connection with the Albert clan.
Come on! She said I know somebody named Caitlyn, implying she didn't know her! She didn't want the jury to know they are besties. She's such a liar! That's why the defense want this on record under rule 14
@@emmitt5443 - except her first response was having only known someone by that name who’d she gone to the same high school with - as though that was the only connection. She was evasive. I also find it hard to believe everyone grew up together, she became a community responder but not a clue whose house that was? That too was a bold-face lie. She was working really hard at pretending a peripheral relationship that common sense and photos defies.
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know... She can't remember which day trip she went on, she can't remember which beach... She's also pictured with Brian Albert receiving a prize/certificate! I'd like to see her phone records... !
Who would be worrying about whether you would have to look after someone’s kids in a situation like this? Her boyfriend is possibly dying and that is front of mind. Self-absorbed much.
@@joditurrisi6004 Obviously John’s family would. KR was on the way out the door, she was a nobody to the kids. Her calling him her husband is laughable.
She didn't even remember if she was ever in their house before!!! Common, she is young!! Even i would remember if i was ever in someone's house and i've been an addict for many years😅 She is a very bad liar.
The injuries at his head are consistent with a fight. Look up MMA fight injuries. They are mostly at the head, with cuts and pingpong eyes injuries. Same injuries J O'Keefe sustained. I believe Brian Albert was an MMA fighter? He fell backward against a sharp object. B.Albert had some gym equipment with sharp edges. What the defense has to prove is that he was in the house: the Apple watch showing 36 steps leading to the basement?
Why would a judge have the jury leave when the defense, shows pictures of her good friend, that she claimed she barely knew. Testimony that would completely impeach her entire examination?? So when the defense has impeachable testimony against a witness, the judge doesn’t allow the jury to see or hear her “most relevant testimony” that clearly impeached her examination!! This alone is grounds for appeal. The judge doesn’t care, as long as she gets a guilty verdict to distract from any future investigation of the real culprit whom more likely than not, committed this murder. DISGUSTING!!!
This was answered by the judge, they cropped the pictures and the prosecution knew this so they left it up to the judge if the jury should see altered pictures. I have no idea what you think is impeachable testimony.
We're all just going to act like John never had two shoes on and the second shoe is just not going to be talked about? Oh that's right because it was in the other Boston cops house and Karen Reads being framed I forgot. Sorry...... Hey maybe if she drove 60 ft in the yard and was doing 24 mph we can check for tire marks. Oh that's right that's not being brought up either. I forgot Karen Read is being framed.sorry.
What’s crazy is you could show me pictures I took 20 years ago and I’d remember when or where for the most part.. sounds like Katie needs medical attention for early onset Alzheimer’s
Also I’m curious how long it takes for blood to freeze because so far it sounds like he was still bleeding out of his nose area. I don’t know if I’m convinced that the state is proving their case.
In the house maybe?? I’m curious if Jon left the bar with a heavy black coat on because they are saying he was only in a sweatshirt, also where is the other dang shoe…. Hmm 🤔
Watch the video between Melanie and medical examiner. Very instructive. He said that it is not uncommon to have blood/vomit coming out of the mouth, when doing mouth to mouth.
i want to believe the judge is biased because of the sighs into the mic and other behaviors etc.. but at the end of the day it would just be how i'm interpreting it and most probably, not the case ptp
@@mollykillarney2419 did you look at the video where i time stamped it? It was defense catching Mclaughlin in a huge regarding her testimony and then it was regarding McLaughlin admitting that she and Kaitlin Albert ( the daughter of Brian Albert) who lived in the house on Fairview where O'Keefe was found!
Karen's crazy eyes at Katie convinces me of Karen's innocence. You don't hate someone that much if you really do think you accidentally hit your boyfriend. You look at someone like that when you know they are lying to protect a friend and pin it on you
I can't understand why she referred to herself as his wife but decided on the day that her boyfriend died to leave the home. She clearly didn't love him, she only wanted to have him with no attachment to the kids he clearly wanted in his life and assumed responsibility for. She even said it to the guy in the ambulance, weird for someone who's acting like she's grieving when she doesn't even know he's dead yet. Maybe she did know since she hit him.
Can't understand why the Read Family is Squished up with blue tape, at an angle even, so it causes Mr. Read to tuck his arm in While the O'Keefe Family stretches out on the Whole Bench. Least of the Concerns with this Case, I know, just irritated me.
I've NEVER disliked anyone in my life, as I do with her! She needs to steer far from dark alleys, after this trial bc people across the world can't stand her!! 🌎🤬
I can actually understand this from Katie. Just because I attended the same event that I was invited to by a mutual friend doesn’t make us friends. A group pic is a group pic. They need to break out phone records not Facebook posts
how do you not know your pictures from social media????? like wtf. i stopped facebook because i had over 2000+ “friends” on social media… and i didn’t like these acquaintances knowing my life. i would get tagged in certain photos and i thought a lot were creepy AF, because i can tell you exactly where that photo was taken who was there… and i would NEVER put my arm around any person that isn’t a close friend of mine. so weird she doesn’t even know what’s on her social media
If there was nothing to hide in this case ALL these EMTS would not be so defensive. They are all acting as if they are on trial for murder..no. You are here to give basic facts about what you did that night. JEEZ
I have watched from Day 1 yet feel like I have missed a major part of the trial. Would have thought evidence would have been provided to support theory of a cover-up and the involvement of the people in the house where the get-together was held. Katie appeared to be questioned like she was guilty in a conspiracy yet no evidence has proven there was one or that anyone other than Read was involved in John’s death. That makes it seem like a fishing expedition rather than proving something that actually occurred.
I’ve been watching also and feel like the prosecution hasn’t really provided any evidence yet. The defense is only cross examining the witnesses. It’s not their turn yet. They’re poking holes in the prosecution’s witness. Once the prosecution rest then it’s their turn to start providing doubt that she did it. Idk what to believe!!
@@janeen70 That is why I think it looks like they are just fishing instead of proving. Unlike so many, I had known very little about this case until the first day of trial. Sure, the opening statements provided the cover-up as their defense and I realize why they are seemingly badgering the witnesses to obtain clues of a cover-up but as an observer, it would have connected the dots far more easily to present their evidence of a cover-up and recall the witnesses to the stand to provide the proof. The flow of the case seems off because there has been no evidence that John was ever in the house or interacting with anyone but Read.
@@dianewilliams9729 That is not the way it's done. The state gets to call witnesses and present their case first. At this point, all the defense can do is to try to create some doubt with the witnesses testimony. They don't have to even prove their theory, they just need to raise enough questions to make the jurors uncertain.
@@janeen70 Thanks, I do understand all that but I have never viewed a trial where it made the Defense Attorneys appear to be fishing and badgering rather than proving their theory. Like you say, they only have to create reasonable doubt and right now I am having difficulty with the reasonable part.
Mannn the girl that testified is soooooo flustered. She gets all upset and she gets all confused. She knows the Albert family and she knows the other family. This whole town is tight knit and all these people are on each other's side as you can tell. What's happening is there all trying to say what each other are saying. It's slightly different contacts and different words that honestly don't mean the same thing. And I just seen a picture of this girl with her arm around the other girl with a beer partying with her and she said they might see each other because they have the same friends. 😮😮😮 Wtf That is your friend. Why are you trying to hide the fact that you know these people. It's a small town and you guys are all friends.
Very strange girl, Katie. By talking this way...denying that they were friends, only acquaintances. She looks like a liar. But i know a few girls like that. One called me an acquaintance to other people and i didn't like that. Because i called her my friend. But maybe i'm quick to call people friends. If you go out together, drinking, to the beach, taking foto's together. I would call that a friend. So i say she is mist likely lying😅
Was sitting the diseased's family to Miss Read's left hand side done on purpose so they could stare at her and make her feel uncomfortable or was that a simple mistake?
@@CountessKitten What - you charging admission or something? Did they not have a ticket? Unless CourtTV made you their bodyguard, eff off. They were just asking a question.
@@CountessKitten 𝐖𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 did I defend a witness? What are you talking about? Show me in these comments where I've "heavily defended the state and witnesses." I'll wait.
Anyone else have concerns about Becker 😳 they all look like they have been drained and stressed, bags under their eyes about this case or hmm… on stuff.. who knows
@@Babyd320 I’m opposite on that one bags under the eyes, not confident on his answers, looks likes he could be on drugs or just tired as heck or stressed to the max about this trial
@@osostellar on drugs? They are all first responders with years of experience.. saving lives for living and they are being demolished on social media .
I just don’t get how all this witnesses are gonna help the persecutor none of these mf. Remember anything for the last 3 years but they all remember it what they did 5 years ago to the sec
KR’s behaviour at the scene early on, to me sounds more like panic, fear and guilt rather than being grief stricken and worried about John. Eg. Not crying with tears and not saying I love him, how am I going to live without him, etc. Which one would expect someone to normally say in those type of circumstances. But rather pacing around shouting and repeatedly wanting to obtain confirmation if John was dead and speaking of self harm. Appears not normal reactions of an innocent person not involved in it, but rather a guilty person that was involved in it. You also see her in the court room when it’s being discussed never showing any form of emotion whatsoever, which appears also unusual. Overall it’s like a person who’s not expressing concerns about him actually passing, just what’s going to happen to her as a result of it = more than likely she was involved, imo.
@@redveiner Wow were you there were you? Comments like that are not fact based and innuendoes, conspiracy theories etc, are not evidence, and neither is that type of response intelligent or logical. Blocking you now.
I truly enjoy opening statements but I must say I'm a bit disappointed in the fact that not one host is being completely biased sounding like the statements that nobody recorded or even talked about in the indictment could have never been said ? And if this is a cover up of some type ,your not giving any merit .it's like you guys feel that every thing the cops n medics have said is true .and the fact of pictures showing her with the lady in question shows her as a friend from high school and at baby shower it's obvious to me they are friends ? And as far alcohol. 07.08 is legal to drive if she was so drunk why did her cop husband not drive or all the cops at the party let her drive fishy very fishy . But I can't help feel that Vinny and Julie grant come across like it's impossible for there to be cover up or the only possible action is that Karen Reed had to hit him .I feel that the possibility of her running g him over and hitting him so hard in the snow and only having a cracked tail light is un real there would have been a dent or othere damage along with burn out marks in the snow of some kind just a thought why couldn't they have beaten him and left him out to die ? Motive could be they were up to corrupt things and Mr okief was going to blow the whistle? Just a good possibility
00:00:00 MA v Karen Read Day 4
00:13:55 ON THE RECORD
00:20:36 (Cont.) STATE’S #9 KATIE MCLAUGHLIN, FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC - CANTON FIRE DEPT.
01:48:05 JURY GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS, LEAVES FOR JURY VIEW OF CRIME SCENE
01:58:54 OJP - Outside the Jury's Presence
02:03:47 OFF THE RECORD: Jury View
03:47:30 STATE’S #10 GREGORY WOODBURY, LT. PARAMEDIC CANTON FIRE DEPT.
04:07:27 Break
05:10:04 Cont. STATE’S #10 GREGORY WOODBURY, LT. PARAMEDIC CANTON FIRE DEPT.
05:42:05 STATE’S #11 DANIEL WHITLEY PARAMEDIC/FIREFIGHTER, CANTON FIRE
06:10:55 STATE’S #12 JASON BECKER, FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC, CANTON FIRE
#CourtTV Catch up on all the facts of the case against #KarenRead, Killer Or Cover-Up #MurderTrial. ⚖👇
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Fix the audio and get the lawyers a microphone
The judge is SO SO SO INAPPROPRIATE telling the lawyers to wrap it up with the questioning, the heavy sighs when defense team is croas examining, the constant sidebars, the interrupting, and constantly siding with the state, that is maddening.. She over rules all of the defenses objections, and sustains all the states. If, and that is a real maybe, Karen somehow gets convicted, there will likely be grounds for appeals!
Yes. She didn't even let the defense re-cross once and other teams told them to make it brief...this Woman's life is on the line. She should not be so one-sided and sighing, etc...
Prosecutor's judge. Clear as day. Hate that. The defence has a tough enough job without a judge to fight as well.
I can't believe this judge is swiveling in her chair during cross examination like it's wasting her time. She's acting like a child, my goodness.
Not to mention the judge literally hears the start of the word objection come from the state and she sustains it and then hears the prosecution object and immediately overrules.
@@brip8501 I think you mean she overrules the defence objecting , if not actually hear her say overruled all I hear is her saying oh he can have that one which is unprofessional
What was the reasoning for denying a recusal of judge due to conflict of interest? Seems like a valid request .....you can see the bias and that's not good in any case, ever. Clown show IMO. . Glad the FBI is watching closely.
Very unprofessional.
Oooh she’s a power trip Judge for sure. No matter what each side argues she’ll say “It’s at my discretion and I’m allowing it or overruled”
Also her asking the question if Objection made and she’ll say is that what you said or remember?
Oooh then watch her get up take that photo from that witness firefighter I was waiting for Alan to say your honor or something.
Worst Parrrt is hearing judge explain how long the situation is or what not. Then she explains to the Jury I’m sorry don’t want to waist your time. That’s totally uncool
Then one of her other court trials she did not pick the head juror. So that was a lie to Jackson that the judge always gets to pick that. Smh 🤦🏽♀️
Is it true she’s being investigated as well? Others had heard and seen her crying after ppl on suits left her chambers. So I wonder if this is her way of revenge as Alan Jackson hit a grand slam home run in her court that she was doing everything even corruption to get back at him silently. As she thinks it’s because of him and this case that has her being investigated hmm 🧐 or all those things are huge gossip/rumors. Idk 🤷🏻♀️ all of this is suspect
Many of Judges rulings and her actions in court are noticeable that’s 10000000000%%%% for sure. Evil step mommy Bev “I’ll get you my pretty” That’s what I see Bev doing in her chambers 🤷🏻♀️ as meaning she’ll get KR
Katie McLaughlin: Respectfully, i think my testimony has been pretty consistent.
Anyone with a brain: Yes, Katie, your lies have been pretty consistent since Jan 29, 2022.
I doubt that she can remember what her testimony has been let alone whether it's been consistent!!! Thst girl has no conscience whatsoever! Shameful lack of respect for the law. She's a paramedic ffs. Should be sacked immediately. Lied through her teeth and didn't even blush!
Is it me or does this judge not like Karen Reed's attorneys?
The attorney asks to see the last picture then they judge asked to see the last picture for no reason and then attorney asks to approach and see it again??
strange energy coming from the judge. Why don't she want the juries to see this? Hmm.
How CORRUPT does it get?
Why dont we hear the grounds for objections and why does the judge seem bothered or irritated?
I have been wondering the same! Maybe this state doesn’t require a reason for an objection? Not to mention the judge literally hears the start of the word objection come from the state and she sustains it and then hears the prosecution object and immediately overrules.
The judge has asked for the grounds to objection not to be stated in this case just to object and if xhe requires more she will go side bar this was agreed by both parties prior , the judge doesn't really need them to say the grounds for an objection it's easy to see what the grounds are it's just saving time .
@@brip8501she seems a little bias to me.
Most Judges rule on "NO speaking objections" but this judge, is making sure the jury doesn't hear any truth from the defense. It will cause appellate issues for sure!!
@@nickiemccormick5392 It's "biasED."
The judge sighing over evidence is disgraceful. This woman isn’t responsible for upholding law, she’s more like a damn hall monitor who relies on lollipops that let you skip class!
She’s lazy, bias and has little to NO tolerance left between being charged and verdict!
The judge sounds perpetually annoyed.
It seems as if all the objections from the state are sustained but all or most the objections from defense are overruled.
The judges reactions are bizarre!! 😮
DONT LIKE THIS JUDGE AT ALL
I've NEVER disliked anyone in my entire life, as much as I do with her!! She needs to steer far, from dark alley's after this trial is over lol.
@@Tinks82seriously, right now she better steer clear 😂
I have NEVER seen or heard a judge act and talk like this one, she's an awful judge!
This crime was horrific. Poor John O’Keefe. God bless his soul and hope he and his family receive the appropriate justice 🙏🏻
I have watched a LOT of trials and I. Have NEVER seen a judge furiously writing notes in a book and jumping up frequently saying “let me see those”. Guess she’s gotta get her facts for when she speaks to the Albert fam.
Judge: “so why don’t you come over here to quietly call me out on being a fraud and showing favoritism so that others cannot hear it”
Swap Darth Vader for judge dorrow ❤❤❤❤❤
Is it fair to say you like Judge Dorrow? 😂
You'd think that the audio dept would be aware that the prosecutor and the defense attorney can barely be heard when they talk from that podium. The witnesses can be heard great. WAKE UP audio dept!
I had to use earplugs
All that matters is if the jury, stenographer, attorneys, and judge can hear them.
Its court tvs audio not the actual court
@@lolabear3230 Which is tied into the media's audio.
is there an AUDIO DEPT??
Oh, how the cross around Katie’s neck must have burned!
This is the worst judge ever. Retire already. She sounds like everything is a bother. Shameful 🤦🏼♀️
thought it was far fetched that they'd have all been conspiring against her..but these people make it SO obvious....corruption
Ok right so when the hospital staff comes on the stand which is two towns over what are you going to think then ?
@@Babyd320what? Lol. Get for real
@@Babyd320 are they coming on the stand then ?
@@lolabear3230 yes and you will hear the same story as the first responders.. and believe me none of them have a reason to lie or conspire
@@Babyd320sure they do. Fear.
Does this judge not feel shame?
None of the Witnesses stories match each other ... I've never seen such disjointed testimony
Right! No one knows/remembers what they were doing at the scene and they all said someone else was doing it.
Sadly it’s common.. it’s why eyewitness testimony is the worst
@Canyouseeanypartofme
I trust what my eyes see ...
Best invention was the Camera ...
Especially Video 📷
Looks fishy to me.
@@New_Zealand_1 yes? And witnesses haven’t watched it before
Karen’s own words and statements are her biggest hurdle .
The words we heard (few), the words responders didn’t think important enough to document, or the words that have suddenly been remembered by others? Can you be precise because so far, not one witness for the state has been.
I disagree.
She's guilty af. The car quickly reversing will be her linchpin.
@@live4only472 no, i doubt it. They will refute that evidence and prove it impossible
I think that even if she said those words, it does not prove anything about her guilt. She could have genuinely thought that it was possible to have hit him with her car, because any other possibility would be unfathomable at the time. But just because you feel guilty for something when you're in a state of shock, does not mean you actually are.
This ignorant judge needs to take lessons from Jennifer Dorow
The judge is definitely against the Defense 😔😔
Whats with these people lip smaking when they begin to talk. Is this a Massachusetts thing? Its horrible to listen to.
Yup, disgusting and weird.
It's called disception
😂 right?? I can’t stand to hear that!
It’s what people do when they are lying.
Now that's all I hear 😬
Katie is so full of lies.
Most Judges rule on "NO speaking objections" but this judge, is making sure the jury doesn't hear any truth from the defense. It will cause appellate issues for sure!!
Katie McLaughlin lied to her teeth, not knowing Caitlyn Albert. Also, they were in the same graduation year as Joseph McCabe. More tight knit connection with the Albert clan.
Never once did she say she didn't know her,
Come on! She said I know somebody named Caitlyn, implying she didn't know her! She didn't want the jury to know they are besties. She's such a liar! That's why the defense want this on record under rule 14
@@emmitt5443 - except her first response was having only known someone by that name who’d she gone to the same high school with - as though that was the only connection. She was evasive.
I also find it hard to believe everyone grew up together, she became a community responder but not a clue whose house that was? That too was a bold-face lie.
She was working really hard at pretending a peripheral relationship that common sense and photos defies.
I don't understand how she couldn't tell a year based on her appearance in the photor or location. Terrible witness for the state
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know... She can't remember which day trip she went on, she can't remember which beach... She's also pictured with Brian Albert receiving a prize/certificate! I'd like to see her phone records... !
What is the woman huffing on beside the witness box?
It's a stenographer.
Who would be worrying about whether you would have to look after someone’s kids in a situation like this? Her boyfriend is possibly dying and that is front of mind. Self-absorbed much.
I think anyone who was worried about children would be thinking the same thing, who's going to take care of the children.
@@joditurrisi6004 Obviously John’s family would. KR was on the way out the door, she was a nobody to the kids. Her calling him her husband is laughable.
“I don’t know I don’t know I don’t remember” lmfao .. you clearly are close with these people
She didn't even remember if she was ever in their house before!!! Common, she is young!! Even i would remember if i was ever in someone's house and i've been an addict for many years😅 She is a very bad liar.
Does anyone have any feedback on how the jury is taking this all in so far? Any jurors taking notes or looking bored or any testimony perk them up??
Would like to see the condition of jacket
This judge is a ghoul. Yet this pales in comparison to how biased fran gull will likely be in the RA case.
The injuries at his head are consistent with a fight. Look up MMA fight injuries. They are mostly at the head, with cuts and pingpong eyes injuries. Same injuries J O'Keefe sustained. I believe Brian Albert was an MMA fighter? He fell backward against a sharp object. B.Albert had some gym equipment with sharp edges. What the defense has to prove is that he was in the house: the Apple watch showing 36 steps leading to the basement?
“I don’t know, I don’t recall, I’m not sure, I can’t remember” does KATIE MCGLAUGHIN KNOW ANYTHING other than that she’s lying!!!!!
Why would a judge have the jury leave when the defense, shows pictures of her good friend, that she claimed she barely knew. Testimony that would completely impeach her entire examination?? So when the defense has impeachable testimony against a witness, the judge doesn’t allow the jury to see or hear her “most relevant testimony” that clearly impeached her examination!! This alone is grounds for appeal. The judge doesn’t care, as long as she gets a guilty verdict to distract from any future investigation of the real culprit whom more likely than not, committed this murder. DISGUSTING!!!
This was answered by the judge, they cropped the pictures and the prosecution knew this so they left it up to the judge if the jury should see altered pictures.
I have no idea what you think is impeachable testimony.
This happens a lot. The judge decides what the jury gets to see. A lot of times it's quite understandable what the reason is😮
Omg Katie McLaughlin is full of it.
Do these charges of murder one include lesser charges such as manslaughter?
@@user-JustMe67ok thank you.
“I appreciate how you might feel”…
Zing!
We're all just going to act like John never had two shoes on and the second shoe is just not going to be talked about?
Oh that's right because it was in the other Boston cops house and Karen Reads being framed I forgot. Sorry......
Hey maybe if she drove 60 ft in the yard and was doing 24 mph we can check for tire marks. Oh that's right that's not being brought up either. I forgot Karen Read is being framed.sorry.
What’s crazy is you could show me pictures I took 20 years ago and I’d remember when or where for the most part.. sounds like Katie needs medical attention for early onset Alzheimer’s
Agree! I'm 45 and if you show me events with my friends from highschool, I could probably tell you something about the day. 10 years ago? Absolutely!
😂😂I'm 54 and I can still remember the clothes I had when I was a little girl.
Oh katie. . You done messed up. 😅
Head injuries bleed profusely. Where is all the blood?
Perhaps watered down by the Snow?
@@New_Zealand_1 there would still be a massive stain
Also I’m curious how long it takes for blood to freeze because so far it sounds like he was still bleeding out of his nose area. I don’t know if I’m convinced that the state is proving their case.
In the house maybe?? I’m curious if Jon left the bar with a heavy black coat on because they are saying he was only in a sweatshirt, also where is the other dang shoe…. Hmm 🤔
Watch the video between Melanie and medical examiner. Very instructive. He said that it is not uncommon to have blood/vomit coming out of the mouth, when doing mouth to mouth.
Stink-eye from Karen to Katie!
This judge sucks
John O'Keefe deserves JUSTICE!!!
Where’s the missing shoe ?
Cinderella has it
I would sure like to know that too…
I believe its been recovered, but am unsure of the details.
@@mollykillarney2419I read somewhere that they found the shoe in a garden nearby.
i want to believe the judge is biased because of the sighs into the mic and other behaviors etc.. but at the end of the day it would just be how i'm interpreting it and most probably, not the case ptp
40:37 oooh not good!!
Sorry ... what's not good?
@@mollykillarney2419 did you look at the video where i time stamped it?
It was defense catching Mclaughlin in a huge regarding her testimony and then it was regarding McLaughlin admitting that she and Kaitlin Albert ( the daughter of Brian Albert) who lived in the house on Fairview where O'Keefe was found!
@@CountessKitten I did watch it from your timestamp. Sorry, just couldn't tell what you were getting at. Now I do - good catch! 👍
Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to be nasty, just thought you were possibly trolling the comments, lol. I apologize. And thanks for the compliment! 😘🙏
@@CountessKitten Woah. I appreciate your honesty. Guess I was a bit reactive there, too. My apologies; best to you. ❤︎︎
Nope, still unwatchable, because the prosecution's audio is too quiet compared with the witnesses 🙄
Prosecutor Lally is allowed to do whatever he likes in Aunty Bev’s Courtroom. 😊
I have no problems hearing everything.
"hearing" is one thing, but the audio production is bad if one voice so much louder than the other
Karen's crazy eyes at Katie convinces me of Karen's innocence. You don't hate someone that much if you really do think you accidentally hit your boyfriend. You look at someone like that when you know they are lying to protect a friend and pin it on you
Every time the defense presents good evidence, she calls a coffee ☕ break or side bar! What is up with that???
I feel pretty bad for the O'Keefe family. I don't think they'll ever really know what exactly happened.
OMG
If looks could kill!
I can't understand why she referred to herself as his wife but decided on the day that her boyfriend died to leave the home. She clearly didn't love him, she only wanted to have him with no attachment to the kids he clearly wanted in his life and assumed responsibility for. She even said it to the guy in the ambulance, weird for someone who's acting like she's grieving when she doesn't even know he's dead yet. Maybe she did know since she hit him.
Whats the women on the bench with the thing over her mouth?
Stenographer
Can't understand why the Read Family is Squished up with blue tape, at an angle even, so it causes Mr. Read to tuck his arm in While the O'Keefe Family stretches out on the Whole Bench.
Least of the Concerns with this Case, I know, just irritated me.
I've NEVER disliked anyone in my life, as I do with her! She needs to steer far from dark alleys, after this trial bc people across the world can't stand her!! 🌎🤬
Who? The judge?
I can actually understand this from Katie. Just because I attended the same event that I was invited to by a mutual friend doesn’t make us friends. A group pic is a group pic. They need to break out phone records not Facebook posts
They can and should do both. If you are only acquaintances you would remember that you never visit their house. She has a very bad memory or is lying.
how do you not know your pictures from social media????? like wtf.
i stopped facebook because i had over 2000+ “friends” on social media… and i didn’t like these acquaintances knowing my life. i would get tagged in certain photos and i thought a lot were creepy AF, because i can tell you exactly where that photo was taken who was there… and i would NEVER put my arm around any person that isn’t a close friend of mine.
so weird she doesn’t even know what’s on her social media
Why do Boston Police department not have body camera's? Is it that Boston police department do not like being transparent to their public.?
There is NO excuse for Cops not to be wearing body cameras in this day and age of technology
I was wondering the same thing. I was thinking maybe because its an officer's house or related to one?
@paulab303
That Police Department do not have Body Cam provided to them by their Town/City Council ... which is pretty poor
THEY DONT HAVE THEM BECAUSE IF THEY DID THEY COULDNT FRAME PEOPLE..KR IS INNOCENT!!
Canton Ma police do not have body cameras
If there was nothing to hide in this case ALL these EMTS would not be so defensive. They are all acting as if they are on trial for murder..no. You are here to give basic facts about what you did that night. JEEZ
This guy smacking his gums! Ugh 😣
I have watched from Day 1 yet feel like I have missed a major part of the trial. Would have thought evidence would have been provided to support theory of a cover-up and the involvement of the people in the house where the get-together was held. Katie appeared to be questioned like she was guilty in a conspiracy yet no evidence has proven there was one or that anyone other than Read was involved in John’s death. That makes it seem like a fishing expedition rather than proving something that actually occurred.
I’ve been watching also and feel like the prosecution hasn’t really provided any evidence yet. The defense is only cross examining the witnesses. It’s not their turn yet. They’re poking holes in the prosecution’s witness. Once the prosecution rest then it’s their turn to start providing doubt that she did it. Idk what to believe!!
Defense presents after the prosecutor. They are limited to cross examining witnesses at this point.
@@janeen70 That is why I think it looks like they are just fishing instead of proving. Unlike so many, I had known very little about this case until the first day of trial. Sure, the opening statements provided the cover-up as their defense and I realize why they are seemingly badgering the witnesses to obtain clues of a cover-up but as an observer, it would have connected the dots far more easily to present their evidence of a cover-up and recall the witnesses to the stand to provide the proof. The flow of the case seems off because there has been no evidence that John was ever in the house or interacting with anyone but Read.
@@dianewilliams9729 That is not the way it's done. The state gets to call witnesses and present their case first. At this point, all the defense can do is to try to create some doubt with the witnesses testimony. They don't have to even prove their theory, they just need to raise enough questions to make the jurors uncertain.
@@janeen70 Thanks, I do understand all that but I have never viewed a trial where it made the Defense Attorneys appear to be fishing and badgering rather than proving their theory. Like you say, they only have to create reasonable doubt and right now I am having difficulty with the reasonable part.
KR lying about being his wife. Lady you were on your way out, not even close to being a wife!
Mannn the girl that testified is soooooo flustered. She gets all upset and she gets all confused.
She knows the Albert family and she knows the other family. This whole town is tight knit and all these people are on each other's side as you can tell.
What's happening is there all trying to say what each other are saying. It's slightly different contacts and different words that honestly don't mean the same thing.
And I just seen a picture of this girl with her arm around the other girl with a beer partying with her and she said they might see each other because they have the same friends. 😮😮😮 Wtf
That is your friend. Why are you trying to hide the fact that you know these people. It's a small town and you guys are all friends.
Very strange girl, Katie. By talking this way...denying that they were friends, only acquaintances. She looks like a liar.
But i know a few girls like that. One called me an acquaintance to other people and i didn't like that. Because i called her my friend. But maybe i'm quick to call people friends.
If you go out together, drinking, to the beach, taking foto's together.
I would call that a friend.
So i say she is mist likely lying😅
Was sitting the diseased's family to Miss Read's left hand side done on purpose so they could stare at her and make her feel uncomfortable or was that a simple mistake?
So that who could stare at whom? Neither were staring.
It does seem to be an awkward seating arrangement
@@CountessKitten What - you charging admission or something? Did they not have a ticket? Unless CourtTV made you their bodyguard, eff off. They were just asking a question.
@@CountessKitten 𝐖𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 did I defend a witness? What are you talking about? Show me in these comments where I've "heavily defended the state and witnesses." I'll wait.
Make her feel uncomfortable? Seriously they lost their son sounds like you might have that backwards
This Judge.......... ugggghhhhh
This courtroom is the size of a closet! I can imagine it is very uncomfortable. They all seem jammed in there like sardines.
Daniel Whitley is scattered
Bro print out more than one copy of the pictures
Did Karen lose her Job as a Professor after Johnnys Death?
I believe so ... ? Usually there's a policy in educators' contracts that stipulates termination for driving while intoxicated.
Anyone else have concerns about Becker 😳 they all look like they have been drained and stressed, bags under their eyes about this case or hmm… on stuff.. who knows
None whatsoever
@@Babyd320 I’m opposite on that one bags under the eyes, not confident on his answers, looks likes he could be on drugs or just tired as heck or stressed to the max about this trial
@@osostellar on drugs? They are all first responders with years of experience.. saving lives for living and they are being demolished on social media .
Karen looks evil.
Damn that old lady eats a giant onion every day in court lmao.
Lol look up "stenomask" I had to figure that out too 🤣
I just don’t get how all this witnesses are gonna help the persecutor none of these mf. Remember anything for the last 3 years but they all remember it what they did 5 years ago to the sec
KR’s behaviour at the scene early on, to me sounds more like panic, fear and guilt rather than being grief stricken and worried about John. Eg. Not crying with tears and not saying I love him, how am I going to live without him, etc. Which one would expect someone to normally say in those type of circumstances. But rather pacing around shouting and repeatedly wanting to obtain confirmation if John was dead and speaking of self harm. Appears not normal reactions of an innocent person not involved in it, but rather a guilty person that was involved in it. You also see her in the court room when it’s being discussed never showing any form of emotion whatsoever, which appears also unusual. Overall it’s like a person who’s not expressing concerns about him actually passing, just what’s going to happen to her as a result of it = more than likely she was involved, imo.
You are 100% wrong. Seek professional help.
@@redveiner Wow were you there were you? Comments like that are not fact based and innuendoes, conspiracy theories etc, are not evidence, and neither is that type of response intelligent or logical. Blocking you now.
I truly enjoy opening statements but I must say I'm a bit disappointed in the fact that not one host is being completely biased sounding like the statements that nobody recorded or even talked about in the indictment could have never been said ? And if this is a cover up of some type ,your not giving any merit .it's like you guys feel that every thing the cops n medics have said is true .and the fact of pictures showing her with the lady in question shows her as a friend from high school and at baby shower it's obvious to me they are friends ? And as far alcohol. 07.08 is legal to drive if she was so drunk why did her cop husband not drive or all the cops at the party let her drive fishy very fishy . But I can't help feel that Vinny and Julie grant come across like it's impossible for there to be cover up or the only possible action is that Karen Reed had to hit him .I feel that the possibility of her running g him over and hitting him so hard in the snow and only having a cracked tail light is un real there would have been a dent or othere damage along with burn out marks in the snow of some kind just a thought why couldn't they have beaten him and left him out to die ? Motive could be they were up to corrupt things and Mr okief was going to blow the whistle? Just a good possibility
She is guilty
Why?
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How many cops kill and injure their women at home?
According to Statistics ... 40% +
My guess would be about 5%.
What does that have to do with it? No one's contending that Officer O'Keefe was abusive.