@@TOCC50he won a batting title. 2 silver sluggers, an MVP, career .296 hitter lol he was a stud hitter you clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Would get on base, lead the league in OBP etc you’re silly.
@@TOCC50 offensively, as complimentary to his defensive prowess, Keith could well be in the HALL. more than 2100 hits, more walks than strikeouts, 7 times over .300 average. Keith was no shabby hitter by any means.
@TOCC50 Keith was no slouch with the bat. Gherig set the standard for offensive 1B, and practically nobody has come close to that. However, HOF voters will routinely look at a player's 7-8 year "peak" when making these decisions, and Hernandez's slash line during his 8-year peak (1979-1986) was .313/.403/.456, averaging 5.6 WAR per season. 60 - 70 WAR is usually the cutoff for the HOF, and Keith ended up at 60 WAR for his career (only injuries prevented him from reaching 70 WAR) Besides that, he wasn't just "good" or "great" or "elite" defensively at 1B ... he's considered the GOAT, and no one even comes close. And the GOAT should be in the HOF.
To this day, Keith Hernandez is the best fielding first baseman I've ever seen. He's perhaps the only first baseman ever who anchored the infield. I remember when the Mets traded for him in 1983. It took little time for Mets fans to see the professionalism, the things that Ed Lynch was referring to. Sure enough, the 1984 season saw the Mets improve by 22 games, becoming a pennant contender. While having Darryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, and other very talented young players helped tremendously, having a player the caliber of Hernandez was the critical lynch pin to this improvement, which culminated in a World Series victory in 1986. By the way, under the playoff criteria of today, the Mets would have been a wildcard team in 1984 and 1985.
Best fielding except for that crucial error on June 14, 1987 against the Phillies that cost the Mets the game and led to the infamous spitting incident 😂
A first basemen that really deserved the gold gloves he won .✌️ And a better all-around player than some of the first basemen in the HOF.(including Helton)
To me he’s one of the most worthy of the HOF players from that era that isn’t in Akin to Graig Nettles, Bobby Grich, Lou Whitaker, Dwight Evans , etc. A leader ✌️ When he’s traded from the Cards to the Mets it changes the entire math of the NL East Whitney Herzog - Hey I love Whitey ! - But he must have with his sense known it was his personal worst call in gettin rid of Hernandez - And to their main rival and direct competitor ! Ouch ! The Cards had dominated the early 80s along with the Phillies (winning the series in 80 and losing it in 83) The cards win in 82 and runner up in 85 and 87 (one bad call from winning in 85) Now for the rest of the 80s the Cards have to deal with the Mets first and foremost With the Mets winning the East in 86 and 88and the series in 86 One way I know Mex was on the Mets before the 85 Series is that terrible call in the 6th game of the series followed by Jack Clark (who could hit when not hurt )at first base for the Cardinals missing that foul ball near a dugout (think it was the KC one ). I’m thinking: Mex Has that one and St. Louis wins their second series in 4 years :) That’d be worth an Ozzie back flip. Even a Mets fan can appreciate a rival like the Cards. ✌️ (Maybe better than anyone ;)
My grandmother's favorite Cardinal. She was heartbroken when he left for the Mets. She used to call him "Pretty Boy" which when the Seinfeld episode called him that I laughed so hard. Great memories. Thanks for the upload.
I remember a play when Hernandez was still with the Cardinals. Hernandez was covering first on a grounder. The throw to first was high, so Hernandez had to jump up and reach up high to catch it. Meanwhile the runner was almost to first, and Hernandez knew that if he waited for gravity to bring him back down to the bag, the runner would just barely be safe. So as soon as he caught the throw, he quickly swung his glove hand down and tagged the runner out, while still in the air. I remember seeing that play live on TV, and I remember that they showed several slow-motion replays. I was disappointed not to see it here in this compilation.
Former MLB pitcher and General Manager Ed Lynch did an online Q&A. And here is one of the exchanges: _Questioner: Do you think Keith Hernandez should be in the hall of fame?_ _Ed Lynch: I ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY BELIEVE Keith Hernandez belongs in the HOF, no one player of his era not only performed at his level on the field but changed the culture of an entire Organization in the clubhouse like he did._ That is a direct quote, by the way. Ed Lynch used all those caps, not me.
Loved being a kid growing up in the St Louis area in 60's & 70's watching him play. Cards didnt win much during the 70's but they were my team. Hernandez, Brock, Simmons and Gibson just to name a few.
Ol tex mex covers 1st like i cover a hotdog with mustard - hearing Ralph brings back memories of my youth watching wor 9 "nothin beats a Bud - except for two !" RK
Teams of the 80s would get demolished by modern teams and that includes the big red machine, the 27 and 39 yankees and the 29 As. The gas house gang are essentially high schoolers. It's not even close. Just look at the ss position, pitching and average size of a mlb player. The 80s players would admit this. Just like the 80s teams would demolish the 1930s teams. It's called progress.
A proto type first baseman , lefthander with glove on right hand to swipe tag runner on pickoff throw , also a very good hitter . He’s my first baseman along with Mike Schmidt at third base .
It's on how we can put Ozzie Smith in the Hall of Fame based solely on defense but then other great defensive players who are also very offensive players get left out..... It's like if you were a great hitter they no longer consider your defense in the voting
June 14, 1987.... Mets Phillies. We're enjoying a beautiful afternoon in the right field stands when a crucial Hernandez error to a five run Phillies ninth. Cost the Mets the game. Our day was ruined. There was a lot of people, you know, they were waiting by the player's parking lot. Now we're coming down the ramp ... Newman was in front of me. Keith was coming toward us, as he passes Newman turns and says, " Nice game pretty boy.". Keith continued past us up the ramp. A second later, something happened that changed us in a deep and profound way front that day forward.....
@@timmathieu8918 I'm hardly an expert on sitcom history, but George's dad saying to Elaine "you're saying you want a piece of me??!" at the police station is sitcom gold.
Growing up in NJ in the 80’s was a Hernandez and Mattingly defensive tour de force. NINE gold gloves for Mattingly and he wasn’t even the best defensive first baseman in the city.
from 1977-1984 in the national league. it didn't get any better at first base and clutch hitting than, Keith Hernandez, Bill Buckner and Steve Garvey. damn shame none of them are in the HALL/Cooperstown.
Great video, but it starts off with a weird flex: "The first infielder ever to win a Gold Glove and Silver Bat in the same season." The first time Hernandez achieved this combo was 1980...the first year that the Silver Slugger was given, and so the first year that it was even possible. And Hernandez wasn't the only infielder to do it that year - Mike Schmidt won both awards at 3B. (Andre Dawson also won both awards in the outfield, for the record.) Nothing away from Hernandez who was great, but it's strange to call him the first to "ever" do a thing when he and another guy did it the very first year that it was possible. Put Hernandez in Cooperstown, but maybe don't put this on his plaque.
So my Grandfather was HERIBERTO HERNANDEZ,I'm a home grown METS FAN 8yrs old in 1986 but I thought Kieth HERNANDEZ was family of some sort bc of the name 🤦♂️ as a child at that time ....BUT LETS FKN GO METS
Herzog should have appealed the out call on Ozzie smith. What were his booth people doing? They should have phoned down. Or did he use his appeal earlier in the game and not have one left?
Didn't have challenges back in the day. If you just mean "hey blue, can you check with the home plate ump on that"- I don't think there were ever limits on such.
Terrible trade for the Cardinals. I realize Hernandez had to be traded, but we got almost nothing in return. At the time of the trade the Cardinals were the defending champs and leading the NL East.
Pretended his sore back was a season ender just to get paid for doing nothing on the Indians. The only Seinfelds I won’t watch are the ones with malingerer Keith.
Keith belongs In the Hall of fame
Not offensively
June 14, 1987. Mets-Phillies. A crucial error kept him out 😂
@@TOCC50he won a batting title. 2 silver sluggers, an MVP, career .296 hitter lol he was a stud hitter you clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. Would get on base, lead the league in OBP etc you’re silly.
@@TOCC50 offensively, as complimentary to his defensive prowess, Keith could well be in the HALL. more than 2100 hits, more walks than strikeouts, 7 times over .300 average. Keith was no shabby hitter by any means.
@TOCC50 Keith was no slouch with the bat. Gherig set the standard for offensive 1B, and practically nobody has come close to that.
However, HOF voters will routinely look at a player's 7-8 year "peak" when making these decisions, and Hernandez's slash line during his 8-year peak (1979-1986) was .313/.403/.456, averaging 5.6 WAR per season.
60 - 70 WAR is usually the cutoff for the HOF, and Keith ended up at 60 WAR for his career (only injuries prevented him from reaching 70 WAR)
Besides that, he wasn't just "good" or "great" or "elite" defensively at 1B ... he's considered the GOAT, and no one even comes close. And the GOAT should be in the HOF.
To this day, Keith Hernandez is the best fielding first baseman I've ever seen. He's perhaps the only first baseman ever who anchored the infield. I remember when the Mets traded for him in 1983. It took little time for Mets fans to see the professionalism, the things that Ed Lynch was referring to. Sure enough, the 1984 season saw the Mets improve by 22 games, becoming a pennant contender. While having Darryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, and other very talented young players helped tremendously, having a player the caliber of Hernandez was the critical lynch pin to this improvement, which culminated in a World Series victory in 1986. By the way, under the playoff criteria of today, the Mets would have been a wildcard team in 1984 and 1985.
Yep. Only first baseman I ever saw run the defense. That is usually the shortstops job.
Best fielding except for that crucial error on June 14, 1987 against the Phillies that cost the Mets the game and led to the infamous spitting incident 😂
The fact that Keith Hernandez & Don Mattingly are NOT in the Hall Of Fame & Harold Baines is before them is beyond puzzling to me...🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
A first basemen that really deserved the gold gloves he won .✌️
And a better all-around player than some of the first basemen in the HOF.(including Helton)
To me he’s one of the most worthy of the HOF players from that era that isn’t in
Akin to Graig Nettles, Bobby Grich, Lou Whitaker, Dwight Evans , etc.
A leader ✌️
When he’s traded from the Cards to the Mets it changes the entire math of the NL East
Whitney Herzog - Hey I love Whitey ! - But he must have with his sense known it was his personal worst call in gettin rid of Hernandez -
And to their main rival and direct competitor ! Ouch !
The Cards had dominated the early 80s along with the Phillies (winning the series in 80 and losing it in 83)
The cards win in 82 and runner up in 85 and 87 (one bad call from winning in 85)
Now for the rest of the 80s the Cards have to deal with the Mets first and foremost
With the Mets winning the East in 86 and 88and the series in 86
One way I know Mex was on the Mets before the 85 Series is that terrible call in the 6th game of the series
followed by Jack Clark (who could hit when not hurt )at first base for the Cardinals missing that foul ball near a dugout (think it was the KC one ).
I’m thinking: Mex Has that one and St. Louis wins their second series in 4 years :)
That’d be worth an Ozzie back flip.
Even a Mets fan can appreciate a rival like the Cards. ✌️
(Maybe better than anyone ;)
My grandmother's favorite Cardinal. She was heartbroken when he left for the Mets. She used to call him "Pretty Boy" which when the Seinfeld episode called him that I laughed so hard. Great memories. Thanks for the upload.
I remember a play when Hernandez was still with the Cardinals. Hernandez was covering first on a grounder. The throw to first was high, so Hernandez had to jump up and reach up high to catch it. Meanwhile the runner was almost to first, and Hernandez knew that if he waited for gravity to bring him back down to the bag, the runner would just barely be safe. So as soon as he caught the throw, he quickly swung his glove hand down and tagged the runner out, while still in the air. I remember seeing that play live on TV, and I remember that they showed several slow-motion replays. I was disappointed not to see it here in this compilation.
Former MLB pitcher and General Manager Ed Lynch did an online Q&A. And here is one of the exchanges:
_Questioner: Do you think Keith Hernandez should be in the hall of fame?_
_Ed Lynch: I ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY BELIEVE Keith Hernandez belongs in the HOF, no one player of his era not only performed at his level on the field but changed the culture of an entire Organization in the clubhouse like he did._
That is a direct quote, by the way. Ed Lynch used all those caps, not me.
He's not in the hall because he told the truth about coke in the mlb.. it was his punishment. He's a hall of famer
He’s not in because of what happened on June 14, 1987 😂
@@beani24329 haha nice.
That was one magic loogie.
You know Keith Hernandez? @@beani24329
The original Canseco😂😂😂😂
My favorite player ever. Fell in love with Keith in 1983 when he came to the Mets. We finally had respect.
Why is he not in the HOF? One of the best ever to play first base if not the best. And a great hitter as well!!!
Loved being a kid growing up in the St Louis area in 60's & 70's watching him play. Cards didnt win much during the 70's but they were my team. Hernandez, Brock, Simmons and Gibson just to name a few.
He was hellva good ballplayer how he not in HOF is beyond me just on his fielding ability. He was good hitter very good clutch hitter
He should be in the hall of fame
Ol tex mex covers 1st like i cover a hotdog with mustard - hearing Ralph brings back memories of my youth watching wor 9 "nothin beats a Bud - except for two !" RK
The players of the 80s were 10 times better than the players today.
Teams of the 80s would get demolished by modern teams and that includes the big red machine, the 27 and 39 yankees and the 29 As. The gas house gang are essentially high schoolers. It's not even close. Just look at the ss position, pitching and average size of a mlb player. The 80s players would admit this. Just like the 80s teams would demolish the 1930s teams. It's called progress.
@@nap871 I’d put the 86 Mets up against any team today, and the big red machine would spank today’s teams..
@@ponytrekker8996 the good old days fallacy strikes again!!
ponytrekker8996: OK Boomer. There are some kids playing on your lawn you should yell at.
@@bauerj3398 hahaha
Pete Rose once compared laying a bunt on Keith Hernandez akin to driving the lane against Bill Russell.⚾🇺🇸😉
He’s in my HOF.
His baseball IQ was far superior. He played the game like it was chess
This video missed some of the best Keith Hernandez plays of all time.
Video left out all the bunt plays where the lead runners were thrown out by Hernandez.
Always thought he should have gotten more HOF support
I’m Keith Hernandez
A proto type first baseman , lefthander with glove on right hand to swipe tag runner on pickoff throw , also a very good hitter . He’s my first baseman along with Mike Schmidt at third base .
Best fielding first baseman I’ve ever seen. A great clutch hitter as well.
The icon! The legend!!
Great to hear Bob Murphy. Keith deserves to be in the HOF.
It's on how we can put Ozzie Smith in the Hall of Fame based solely on defense but then other great defensive players who are also very offensive players get left out..... It's like if you were a great hitter they no longer consider your defense in the voting
June 14, 1987.... Mets Phillies. We're enjoying a beautiful afternoon
in the right field stands when a crucial Hernandez error to a five run Phillies
ninth. Cost the Mets the game.
Our day was ruined. There was a lot of people, you know, they were
waiting by the player's parking lot. Now we're coming down the ramp ... Newman was in front of me. Keith
was coming toward us, as he passes Newman turns and says, " Nice game pretty
boy.". Keith continued past us up the ramp.
A second later, something happened that changed us in a deep and
profound way front that day forward.....
For all those who don't recognize the Seinfeld reference, the above comment is fiction.
@@jimwertherif that’s not the greatest scene in sitcom history what is?
@@timmathieu8918
I'm hardly an expert on sitcom history, but George's dad saying to Elaine "you're saying you want a piece of me??!" at the police station is sitcom gold.
@@jimwertherof course it is. It’s still hilarious
Growing up in NJ in the 80’s was a Hernandez and Mattingly defensive tour de force. NINE gold gloves for Mattingly and he wasn’t even the best defensive first baseman in the city.
HOF for sure. What's the deal?
Possibly the best ever at playing the bunt.
He had so many assists for a first baseman as well.
Manly men Keith!
The Gap Between First & Second 1846-1974 RIP
The best first baseman I ever seen
best I ever saw. But let me tell you Vic Power of the A.L. was very very good in the late 50's.
For a big Mark McGwire was a hell of a defensive first baseman.
Nice game, pretty boy!
Hall of Fame
from 1977-1984 in the national league. it didn't get any better at first base and clutch hitting than, Keith Hernandez, Bill Buckner and Steve Garvey. damn shame none of them are in the HALL/Cooperstown.
No matter how many great plays Mex would make, Jerry Seinfeld would assure you that he's not driving him to the airport.
June 14, 1987. Mets-Phillies
Nice game pretty boy.
Diving on the turf just looks so painful
This guy asked me to help him move after only hanging out one time.
Niiice Gaaame, Prrrretty Booooy!
Keith was a world class crossword puzzle player and a fine judge of cocaine.
3:20 All Star Third Baseman?
Who does this guy think he is?
I’m not driving him to the airport
Great video, but it starts off with a weird flex:
"The first infielder ever to win a Gold Glove and Silver Bat in the same season."
The first time Hernandez achieved this combo was 1980...the first year that the Silver Slugger was given, and so the first year that it was even possible. And Hernandez wasn't the only infielder to do it that year - Mike Schmidt won both awards at 3B. (Andre Dawson also won both awards in the outfield, for the record.)
Nothing away from Hernandez who was great, but it's strange to call him the first to "ever" do a thing when he and another guy did it the very first year that it was possible. Put Hernandez in Cooperstown, but maybe don't put this on his plaque.
Saved the best for last!
Did I ever tell you about the time I helped Keith Hernandez move?
The last play looked like Nolan Arenado flipped
Ozzie Smith was safe!
So my Grandfather was HERIBERTO HERNANDEZ,I'm a home grown METS FAN 8yrs old in 1986 but I thought Kieth HERNANDEZ was family of some sort bc of the name 🤦♂️ as a child at that time ....BUT LETS FKN GO METS
Liked him better when he was with the Cardinals
To Hell with Keith Hernandez!! He spit on Kramer!!
1 of the nest defensive 1st basemen of all time
HOF
You can't show all of his great plays!
Herzog should have appealed the out call on Ozzie smith. What were his booth people doing? They should have phoned down.
Or did he use his appeal earlier in the game and not have one left?
Didn't have challenges back in the day. If you just mean "hey blue, can you check with the home plate ump on that"- I don't think there were ever limits on such.
Terrible trade for the Cardinals. I realize Hernandez had to be traded, but we got almost nothing in return. At the time of the trade the Cardinals were the defending champs and leading the NL East.
As he snow cones it ? lol
I’ll take Mattingly any day.
His greatest single accomplishment? Dating Elain Benes......
He could also make his spit do amazing things! Ask Kramer and Jerry.
You smoke??
I still.like him better on Seinfeld.
GO CUBS!!!
Pretended his sore back was a season ender just to get paid for doing nothing on the Indians. The only Seinfelds I won’t watch are the ones with malingerer Keith.
Ozzie was safe on 3-6-3
I love Ozzie, but he would have thrown a fit if he thought the call was wrong.
Anything Hernandez can do.....Mattingly can do better!! 🤘
No. Both excellent first-basemen. Give it a rest.
I despise Keith Hernandez.
Nice game, pretty boy!
HOF