"The Creator" Rig Explained - Sony FX3 ‘Octopus’ DJI RS2 Gimbal Rig
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In this video I do an in-depth Sony FX3 and DJI rig breakdown and explain the major parts of one of the rigs used by DP Oren Soffer and Gareth Edwards on the Regency and Twentieth Century Fox IMAX movie The Creator. The rig was affectionately called the Octopus. Watch the video to understand the principles and see some links below to buy some of the parts.
00:00 Preface
01:43 Sony FX3 placement
01:50 RS2 Gimbal horizontal mounting position
02:06 DJI Expansion Base
02:12 DJI RS2 and RS3 Expansion Base options which one is best
03:09 DJI Expansion Kit Handle
03:26 Grip wrapping
04:09 Tilta Advanced Rear Operating Handle
04:37 The P+S Technik Kowa Rehoused Lens
05:15 Metabones PL Lens Adapter
05:30 Tilta Nucleus Nano Motor
05:56 Video Transmission
06:23 V Mount Battery Solution
06:29 Atomos Ninja
06:45 Angle 2 of Octopus set up and further breakdown
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“The Creator”
Dir: Gareth Edwards
DOP: Oren Soffer / Greig Fraser
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Some updated info:
Heavy Duty Gimbal L Bracket for RS2 RS3 Shoulder Rig Mounting. “The Creator” Sony FX3 Octopus Rig Style.
Available now on motionpicturehardware.com
According to Oren via VLFV live, the VND Filter used was the Urth 77mm Variable ND ND2-32 amzn.to/3PZsWav
Thanks to @ahmedsamir7582 for pointing out the Arri connectors are Kondor Blue Quick Release Arri mounts.
Also according to Oren, they also used IronGlass lenses on the drone, plate, POV and hologram shots.
According to Greig they also used the Sony FX9 when they went to Pinewood to shoot on the volume wall.
Apologies for Oren on misspelling his last name in the video!
Feel free to comment any tidbits you have learned below!
Thanks
Urth really? When I used them they had terrible vignetting
@@maybejensen What lens were you shooting on? That’s what Oren said they used quite specifically yes..
@@maybejensen This may be due to the fact they were almost constantly on a 75mm Kowa anamorphic lens which actually only covers a Super 35 sensor. My guess is neither the lens nor the filter would vignette because at 75mm even a Super35 lens works on Full Frame.
@@schmollywood Very possibly! They did shoot on Ironglass lenses for some shots and the Atlas Mercury 42mm as well. Not sure what filtration they used then.
I simply don't understand why other tubers' breakdowns can't be as clear as this. Great work, man.
Thank you! That’s a great comment! Super glad you enjoyed it.. More to come.. 🙌🏿✌🏿🙏🏿
@@borrago 😂😂⚡️
Things look pretty simple when you know what you are doing.
@@darnellgadberry8461 thanks.. these BTS from the film are everything..
Really cool - thanks for making this. Such a joy to see the shift in the industry. Gareth Edwards is a real pioneer in that respect.
Thank you. I absolutely agree. What he and his team have done is truly remarkable. He is a very special creative individual.
This has to be the most accurate breakdown I have seen!! Thank you for sharing
Thank you! Let me know if you have any other questions or any video requests 🤙🏿👍🏿🙏🏿
Incredibly thorough work, well done and thank you!
Thanks Malcolm! Glad you enjoyed it. I’m still excited by the secrets these BTS helped us discover.
Thanks
Great research and analysis of the rig. Thanks OD!
Thanks for watching and commenting! My pleasure.. 👌🏿
Thanks for this! Excellent work - appreciate the clarity
Thank you for watching and dropping your comment! Happy building if you decide to build your own rig!
Best breakdown thus far 🤝
Thank you my friend! Appreciate it! 👍🏿
Brother, Your video quality is gold!
Thank you brother 🙏🏿⚡️🙌🏿
I have been studying this rig for a week now day and night... found your video very helpful ... i wish we can get more details into the arms, shoulder plate, L bracket, Grips !!! the moving Rosette module he used is (Kondor Blue Quick-Adjust Rosette Module) and he throwed 5 of them at every angle. Thank you again for the great breakdown. 🙏
Thank you for the Kondor blue tip! I actually asked him about the Arri rosette and he said he didn’t recall so glad you found that one. As for the others, let’s keep to the detective work! Thanks again 👍🏿👍🏿🙏🏿
I’m pretty sure I found out what the grips are last night after more research and studying the picture. Now I know why they were wrapped in the badminton tape wrap. I plan to do another video with the build once I have some more parts and I’ll explain then. Thanks!
Great news ... lets not forget about the ( SmallRig V Mount Battery Adapter Plate, Model 3203) which the ( Vaxis Storm 3000 Dual V-lock TX ) mounted on.... ;) ... Please correct me if i am wrong i think the USB labeled with orange circle sticker it's for charging one nano motors may be. Thank you! @@ODHunte
@@ahmedsamir7582 not sure about the Nano charging.. will look more into it.. Sure it’s the Vaxis 3000 not 800? 🤓🤓! Intriguing
Day and night ???! Really..?
Great breakdown! I was curious about this.
Thanks Derrick. Hopefully you found some answers?
Great and fascinating breakdown
Thank you Geoffrey 🙏🏿🤙🏿
Awesome brother. Thanks for this breakdown Cheers. 🎥🙏🏼
You are welcome.. more coming 🔜. Excited for what’s next ✌🏿
This was great. Thank you.
Thank you! Look out for more soon..
Thnks for this breakdown!
You are very welcome! It was fun to get into it 😃👌🏿👍🏿🤙🏿. Let me know if you have any more questions or future video requests
Amaging review! Thx!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for taking the time to mention it 👋🏾🤙🏿👍🏿
awesome breakdown!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. You building a rig ?
We are from Indonesian brother... Respect❤❤❤
Pleased to meet you !
Awesome. Thanks!
Thanks for watching and your feedback
great review, now I want to see that movie "The Creator"
Absolutely should! it’s quite something…
This rig is insane! (In a good way). I guarantee a lot of cinematographer are going to start rigging up their FX3's like this. Myself included 😅
lol! Yeeep guaranteed… I was thinking about this for nearly two years but never thought of putting it horizontally so now I’m working on that 😅😅. Good luck with it. Feel free to post any instagram links !
@@ODHunte Please bless us with another video of your version of this rig!! Cant wait for it!!!
It’s coming soon God wiling.. I’ve designed a custom part so waiting for the prototype from China 😅🤓😒🤙🏿..
great video
Thanks! Glad you like it.. 👍🏿
FX3 is so underrated. Another W from Sony. Now if they can just get to updating their other cameras that would be great 😅
Ha.. yes it really is a massive win for Sony! Super interest in this little camera now.
Manufactures sometimes are so bad at supporting what they already have out and more co concentrate on what new hardware they can deliver. I hope Sony isn’t like that too…
Great breakdown! Thanks so much. One thing that surprised me is that in these photos it seems like they didn’t use any lens support even with that rather big lens.
Hey yes you are right. You would be surprised! One doesn’t need a lens support as much as you may be lead to believe IMO. The Kowa was also chosen for its light weight which means it shouldn’t need a support. I use a DZO Pictor Zoom with a 6K Pro on my RS3 Pro which is very heavy with no lens support. 👍🏿🤙🏿
Very cool breakdown of the kit used for this movie. Can you in the future add the current MSRP prices to each component within your video. I think it would make it more interesting. Plus maybe a final total of the kit at the end.
Hey thanks for the feedback. That’s a good idea. I’ll try to add it to the description when I get a chance. Thanks for the suggestion . And hope you found value !
Great breakdown, OD! Really insightful stuff. Your delivery and explanations are really easy to follow 👍
Thank you and glad you like the ! 🙌🏿Are you building a rig yourself?
Good one
Thank you 🙏🏿
I subed in less than 2 seconds
lol 😂.. good man! Thank you
awesome, can you give me/us more information on that variable ND filter setup? Like, how to do that?
Hi check my channel, I’ve got a video on just that!
hi! great breakdown. one tiny correction - HDMI has to go to Atomos NINJA first, because RAW has to be decoded to regular HDMI signal and VAXIS can't do that. I think that is what you said - it goes to VAXIS first, if not i misunderstood you. In one of the pictures you can see that NINJA has HDMI output cable inserted and that one goes to VAXIS as it's now decoded from RAW.
Yes you are right but If you check the text in the video I said it “obviously loops through the Ninja 🥷 first.”
Thanks for the video! I am building my own version of this rig but for one man operation. They must have used a focus puller with a Nucleus? Would the focus puller also operate the VND? Or was one of the motors the RS2 motor operated by the gimbal dial? Also, thanks for pointing out the pass through coms on the Advanced handle. I was wondering how I was going to get control from 2 separate handles!
lol.. so many tricky things with this rig.
I don’t know for sure as not read as yet but I’ll ask when I can.. but I believe they had a focus puller and they would have undoubtedly controlled the ND too. They had a comms system where Gareth was speaking to everyone doing a running commentary and that would inform them what they had to do in terms of moves apparently. Good luck with the rig build! How is that going ?
@@ODHunte Thanks. Its going ok. I have the control handles and shoulder pad ordered and those should be the last bits needed. I am playing with mouting locations to get the balance as good as possible. I will be moving the ninja and testing with the expansion base instead of using the battery brip. Not sure what I will end up with. I do mostly automotive media so getting low shots will be the priority of this setup. I have been struggling with getting a good solid base and didn't want to go with a ring. This may be it! photos.app.goo.gl/bs9vYwbkxNyxZ7Du8
Great job John! Looking for to further development.. Stay tuned for some more developments on my end too🙂..
Great research! The only mistake about FX3+NinjaV. Camera can output 16bit RAW, but Atomos is capable of recording only 12bit.
Thanks for the Heads Up. That’s very interesting..
Great video, I was wondering if you could kindly tell me what the orange mount was in your video? Many thanks
Hi, yes it’s a custom prototype support for the RS2 and RS3 that I designed and worked with SmallRig to build. They are deciding if to make it a product. I have one product with them but a few prototypes. www.smallrig.com/SmallRig-Mount-Plate-for-AirTag-MD4149.html
@@ODHunte thanks for the information, hope it comes out soon as I’ll be first to buy one.
@@nealguitarlounge2299 thank you. Let’s see what they say !
Sorry what is the benefits of this rig over normal shoulder mount?
There are many benefits but the main ones are the ability to do longer takes without fatigue, stabilised shots combined with greater movement range and the ability to shoot in several different positions.
Great video… only question is, why the abrupt ending?
lol.. Yes that could have been less jarring I agree 😅😆….
They actually used rehoused original Kowa Prominar 75mm lenses. The director did not like new P+S versions.
I believe he had his own rehoused one but yeah I didn’t make it clear that he used the rehoused original Kowa one rather than the P&S remake. Do you know how many original lenses they had on set?
Great, thx for the amazing video!
Anyone know if the Decathlon Perfly will leave sticky residue after weeks/months/years? :)
Thanks! Glad you liked the video. I’m not sure about long term use. I have a video coming soon you should check out :) At any rate, it’s so cheap you can just buy another pack and re-wrap. Wrapping is also easy, like I said there’s a video coming vero soon 😉
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is that a TLM 103? looks very good in the shot
Thanks.. it’s a TLM 170… from my music production days :)
I’ve built my own much more simplified version with a Ronin S and a BMPCC6K and a Blackmagic URSA EVF. I don’t have joystick control of the gimbal when operating unfortunately but it works overall.
Great job ! Where can we see it!?
@@ODHunte Still waiting on a few parts (top handle, Arri rosette extension) but I’ll take some video of it once I do. You got me thinking about remote options now which actually do seem possible.
@@mcgrathfilms that’s a great look! Good luck with the build
Any guess of what part is this silver joint between the arri rosette ? (that thick silver part on the right handle)
I believe those are Kondor Blue quick release Rosette connectors!
Yep there are the one thanks !! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@amathma no problem! Happy rigging
Once the handle comes out for the nucleus nano ii I’m going to take a crack at building this
For sheezey! When is it out?
@@ODHunte we don’t know. Tilta refuses to give a hard delivery date. The most specific they’ve been is the end of this month (October)
@@daltonbrowne7980 oh cool. Timing could be good :) I’ve got something coming too 😉
How did they add the gears to the VND filter?
Gears are just a case of knowing the diameter of the VND and attaching a gear with the same internal diameter I believe. Always handy to have a set of vernier callipers..
what shoulder rig product???
This I couldn’t tell you for sure.. sorry
There is not image of the rig from the operator side. I'm trying to figure out how they were able to use the TILTA BACK HANDLE with the top control and still support that much weight on the Gimbal. It is an incredible amount of stress to put on the joint with only the battery mount connecting to the Gimbal. The attachment comes with a stabilizing arm which works great if you are only using a dummy suitcase top handle, but they are showing the SMART TILTA BACK HANDLE with a joystick and focus wheel. This unit connects on BOTH sides of the GIMBAL and renders the the support arm included with the small rig attachment useless as it no longer lines up with the connection. So how did they do it? Do you have access of the image from the other side? Going crazy here. Thank you!
Can’t find an image from the side. I would say as long as you keep the lever locked it’s not a problem. I have a very heavy system and no issues with it.
Really interesting video. Thanks for your hard work and research. Just a small criticism, why have background music playing whilst you are talking? It adds nothing and just becomes a distraction. Apart from that great stuff!
Here's what's been keeping me up: because of the handle they are using, it's impossible that they used the safety piece that comes with the power base to grip it to the stabilizer. I've built something similar and I wanna get that same handle but this is stopping me from buying it because it seems very dangerous
I understand what you mean. The two nato rails are taken one of which is usually used to screw the gimbal securely. To be honest this is one of my fears too but most of the time I do NOT use the extra safety and all is ok. You just have to make sure and double check it is 100 % switched to the locked 🔒 position. I use a very heavy rig and shot thousands of clips and never had an accident, yet 😂
What setup was used with the ARRI-65 they used in this movie ?
When did they use an ARRI-65? The co-DP states the only two cameras used were the FX3 and FX9 on the volume stage at Pinewood.
Wait.. so is it FX3 HDMI Output to Ninja Input (External Recorder) then Ninja Output into Vaxis?
I don't know if external recording is possible if its fx3 -> Vaxis -> Ninja. Thoughts?
Yes in my text in the video I said they obviously went into the Átomos recorder first. The priority would always be to record the media first and then monitor. Also I believe no HDMI out on the Vaxis?
@@ODHunte I'm not sure im new to all the transmission world 😅 but the creator rig is definitely interesting.
@@Velspire sure is! 👍🏿
How do you think they did z-axis (up/down) stabilisation?
Turing the gimbal so that the base is horizontal engages the whole system differently. I don’t think it’s true Z axis like the 4D but I think it’s better than having it vertical…
DJI should release this version of the rig pre-assembled
lol they should! Definitely enough interest! Thanks for watching 🤙🏿🙏🏿👌🏿
they cannot do it simply because it's an our patent and a product already available on the market ;)
@@4acrew Hey, which bit is patented? Thanks for watching.
@@ODHunte the whole rig in concept and use as specifically intended for handheld gimbal support including the exclusive native steady-rig set up of the shoulder use, but not limited as it can be used also hand held in steady-gun configuration.
@@4acrew fantastic! So a Non- provisional Utility Patent has already been filed for this?
Could you tell me the name of the brands or the models for the those regular plain handles without any features @7:43 please?
I think they are SmallRig. I’m waiting on parts to confirm & will do another video asap ✌🏿👍🏿
@@ODHunte Woah! I can’t wait! This is just my thought but it seems bit more useful to have a wireless controller/handle than DJI’s wired controller. What do you think about that?
@@user-nu8bf3bf9m it’s whatever works for you and your set up. Great thing is there is no absolute answer :) What I love is that they have given us some inspiration and pointers about how we can diversify our gimbal set ups :))
love this vid have to ask are you trini Im hearing that accent.
lol. Thanks. Yes I’m a Trini 🇹🇹
@@ODHunte ayeee let’s gooo lol
Nice to meet you man
Same 🙂 🤙🏿🇹🇹
Dude, there’s a typo on the super about the DP. It’sr Soffer and it says “Soffa”
Yes you are right! I noticed and added it to the pinned comment. Thanks.
No problem my friend. By the way, thanks so much for this content. So useful! Do you think this rig would work with the fx6?
With it you could avoid the variable nd and its gear motor.
@@kasaka28 I think it could yes. I’ve seen people balance the FX on the RS2 /RS3 before but of course it depends on the dimensions and weight of your lens!
You show an image of the nucleus N, but they probably used nucleusM
They used the Nucleus Nano at least on the octopus rig. Perhaps they used the M on other rigs…
@@ODHunte really ???? that's a toy. I've used it one time, it wasn't able to pull focus on one of my lens cause it was not powerful enough.
@@Studio23creation ah.. could be your lens focus ring was too stiff or not enough juice to the motor? Anyway they used them to good effect quite clearly .. 😃
Decathlon is a brand, not a company 😅
Cool! Thanks for the tip 🤙🏿
they turned a light-weight rig into a 40 pound rig lol
Well imagine how heavy it would have been with a traditional camera like an Alexa mini with full matte box follow focus batteries etc? And it would not have had any stabilisation 👍🏿. Plus you need some weight to give the camera the right sort of inertia..
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