Panasonic Leica 25-50mm F1.7 Review

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  • The Panasonic Leica 25-50mm F1.7 is a great video lens, and a perfect match - both physically and in rendering - for the Panasonic Leica 10-25mm F1.7. We tell you all you need to know about this lens.
    See full resolution sample images from this episode: www.dpreview.com/sample-galle...
    0:00 - Intro
    0:28 - Focal length
    0:56 - Design and build quality
    2:19 - Autofocus
    2:43 - Chromatic aberrations
    3:30 - Minimum focus
    3:59 - Colour matching with 10-25mm
    4:21 - Focus breathing
    4:41 - Parfocal?
    5:14 - Sharpness
    6:15 - Bokeh
    6:35 - Who is it for?
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  • @tomariko
    @tomariko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I saw a lot of images from A7SIII but at the end I think this combo 10-25 and GH5 is still the best video combo you can get.
    Images are so beautiful.

    • @waynecake5867
      @waynecake5867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No joking, this lens really has a Leica vibe.

    • @tomariko
      @tomariko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waynecake5867 yeah

  • @ForeverYoungAaron
    @ForeverYoungAaron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Didn’t know this lens was gonna be a thing but now that I know about it I sure would love to try it out! Glad to see continued support for the system

  • @ofmetalphilosophy4837
    @ofmetalphilosophy4837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    But Tony told us micro four thirds is dead.....!

    • @pyotrpig
      @pyotrpig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well this one is aimed at necropolis 🤷

  • @StupidRaisins
    @StupidRaisins 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review, you guys! It's always interesting to me to see how new cameras are coming along.

    • @elvirredzepovic6898
      @elvirredzepovic6898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. They do this for salary let's hope you are thanking everyone in your life who is doing their job.
      2. This video was about a lens not cameras.

  • @CallMeChato
    @CallMeChato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As an old ENG shooter par focal meant zooming in fast, focusing and then knowing zooming in and out after that would stay in focus. Focusing zoomed out never really worked.

    • @rockatanescu
      @rockatanescu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this might be due to the fact that the lens is pre-production. Panasonic MFT zoom lenses in the Leica line-up are "parfocal" (I own the 12-60mm f/2.8-4 and the 50-200mm f/2.8-4 and both are and I've seen reports from other people as well) because the lens automatically refocuses when it is zoomed so I would be very surprised if the production version of this lens won't do that.

    • @MrBobthened
      @MrBobthened 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, but that’s just a different way of describing the same mechanism. For it to be still focused when zoomed out after focusing when zoomed in it needs to maintain focus throughout the zoom range, which means that if you focused when zoomed out it would still be in focus when you zoom in.

    • @CallMeChato
      @CallMeChato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrBobthened Perhaps but in practice you could never count on that and no pro did it that way, we zoomed in, got focus and we were good, never the other way around.

  • @JustinWoo
    @JustinWoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these reviews, you guys. Keep it up! :)

  • @Sotangy247
    @Sotangy247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was impressed by the sharpness of the GH5 used to shoot this video. Another great one.

  • @sparkyfilm2599
    @sparkyfilm2599 ปีที่แล้ว

    loving your reviews boys - hired the 10-25mm for a week and loved it, just need to get the pair now and most bases are covered. I have an ARRI camera but am having a bunch of fun with the GH6!

  • @mmzz4009
    @mmzz4009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    glad you're recovered

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks! I'm back to normal.

  • @JessDemant
    @JessDemant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, thanks!

  • @jinwan3088
    @jinwan3088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's not just for videographers. I'm an exclusively stills photographer and I have the "brother" lens, the Panasonic Leica 10-25mm f1.7 and it's the best m43 lens I have on me. It's SO SO SO excellent.

  • @JeremyHalterman
    @JeremyHalterman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now that I have a copy of the 25-50, I can confirm that the production version of the lens _is,_ in fact, parfocal. A Panasonic rep said on a livestream that the lens is “electronically parfocal" in that it adjusts focus as it’s zoomed in and out in order to maintain the focus point-so not a traditional parfocal design, but the end result should be the same. I imagine the delayed release of the lens was to fix the issue that prevented so many pre-production copies from working properly (Richard Wong’s review is an example of a properly-working copy). The original Panasonic livestream is here: th-cam.com/video/y1HaQuZZDJs/w-d-xo.html

  • @AgnostosGnostos
    @AgnostosGnostos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Micro 4/3 is still very very strong.

    • @ArneHerz
      @ArneHerz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ... but... but what about all the channels predicting M43's death?

    • @AgnostosGnostos
      @AgnostosGnostos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arnaud Marchal Larger digital image sensors one way or another deliver better results. On the other hand the much smaller micro 4/3 sensors permit smaller and lighter lenses and camera bodies. That is very important for many photographers or videographers.
      If shallow depth of field isn't very important, micro 4/3 are fine with video too.
      The first digital autofocus mirrorless cameras with interchangeable lenses was micro 4/3 and was introduced in 2008. At that time digital full frame camera were very expensive and the real professionals or very rich amateurs.
      Nowadays the price of digital full frame cameras has dropped at prices comparable to many micro 4/3 cameras.

    • @YakAlmighty
      @YakAlmighty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AgnostosGnostos "lighter lenses" Its 1.44lb for an F3.4 lens lol

    • @_modrzew_
      @_modrzew_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, it's 1.7. Stop making stupid calculations and shallow dof fallacy.

    • @AlexRod9646
      @AlexRod9646 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArneHerz when you have 60+ lenses, it's hard for something to 'die', both Nikons full frame mirrorless and Canons apsc mirrorless range have less than 30 lenses combined but you don't see people predicting their 'death'. In interchangeable lens cameras, the amount of quality lenses available to you play a key role more than the camera sensor size. The only downside of it is that for product and certain portrait photography, you'll not get the shallow dof but apart from that, you can get fantastic results.

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't shoot L-mount, micro 4/3rds, or live in Canada, but your personalities and presentation (not to mention the ongoing saga of the foot!) make it worth the watch anyway.

  • @artistjoh
    @artistjoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am more than thrilled. Maybe a stills shooter might prefer other, smaller options, but for video this is just what we asked Santa Claus to bring, and it is not even Christmas yet. Thank you Santa.

    • @MattJett
      @MattJett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish both the 10-25mm and 25-50mm were stabilized and parfocal, then they would be the perfect lenses for MFT.

  • @chcomes
    @chcomes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lovely bokeh

  • @TuinleiBob
    @TuinleiBob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the 10-25 too. Since I shoot 1080 60fps, I can switch the teleconverter on in my Lumix cameras. It gives me the same range but parfocal. Just an idea.

  • @wowwow4942
    @wowwow4942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    woo! another monster
    I love 1025 so much, fantastic sharpness and contrast
    this should be another amazing lens for M43

  • @Kdkjdjewerdnxa
    @Kdkjdjewerdnxa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the best lenses for Fuji video? First or third party, I think that would be a good topic for a video since so many people are considering Fuji for video now. I love my XT4 for video but the lenses I have aren’t super ideal for video due to stuff like breathing. I’m looking at some third party lenses with clickless apertures but I haven’t found a really good video for this topic.

  • @Seanonyoutube
    @Seanonyoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The way i see it, it’s basically a 25mm prime and a 45mm prime combined into one lens where you might lose a bit of aperture for the convenience of a zoom.

    • @hankroest6836
      @hankroest6836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is the way you look at it because you don't want to see it.

    • @Seanonyoutube
      @Seanonyoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hankroest6836 ok dude

    • @MattJett
      @MattJett 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like the Leica 25mm f1.4 and the Leica 42.5mm f1.2 Nocticron?

    • @Seanonyoutube
      @Seanonyoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MattJett yea

    • @JustinWoo
      @JustinWoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Barely any though - the difference between 1.4 and 1.7 and 1.2 and 1.7 isn't really that big.

  • @rchrd_sn
    @rchrd_sn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    By looking similar, they bring great advantage not only for the shooter for sharing the same rig, but also the maker itself, as more parts serve on both lenses. At least one other brand (that I can remember; Sigma and Tamron I think) have a set of lenses that look similar, but the shared components seem to be fewer than this pair.

  • @trayneadjeifilms
    @trayneadjeifilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    trying to decide whether I should get the 10-25 and 25-50 pair or a speed bosster and the sigma 18-35 and 50-100. Such a hard decision!

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a stills shooter on MFT since little over a year and hopefully for the next 2-3 years, and a wannabe filmmaker that doesn't shoot video - this lens was on my list to look into.
    I am currently using the 14mm f/2.5 for maybe 98% of my shots, and I am really split as to where to go with my next lens. Perhaps going with the 20mm f/1.7 is the smartest option as having a small lens really enables me to shoot in some spaces. But I also want to experience something wider. All my 12.5mm lenses are for c mount and they vignette badly which means I end up being narrower fov than the 14mm.
    I hope the upcoming LAOWA 6mm T2.1, 27mm 1.5x T2.8 and maybe the MFT Argus f/0.95 lenses are great and we'll priced.
    Otherwise there is always the Super Nokton 29mm f/0.8 to spent 1800€ on.

  • @Crushonius
    @Crushonius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yeah Jordan make him walk
    the movement is good for the foot
    and the pain builds character xD

    • @LexTNeville
      @LexTNeville 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not wrong. Top sports physios are horrible to injured athletes. David Beckham was saying his would make him jump off tables when he was injured - not joking.

  • @DeepteshLovesTECH
    @DeepteshLovesTECH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Equivalent lenses will always be of similar sizes across sensor sizes. And these two lenses are prime examples of it, actual full frame equivalent lenses and similar in sizes.

  • @TheRealRichardWong
    @TheRealRichardWong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting Chris and Jordan, my parfocal test result is opposite to your one. Sorry guys I think Panasonic sent me a better copy than yours :D

  • @matthieuzglurg6015
    @matthieuzglurg6015 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:54 : I see what you did there
    can't wait for the video :)

  • @WOLFTICKVIDEOS
    @WOLFTICKVIDEOS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Com'on Jordan, give Chris a break😜😂.

  • @63MacGuy
    @63MacGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great good guys!

  • @davisarmstrong8952
    @davisarmstrong8952 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    correction it has a sense of par focal, It's done via firmware that was not yet available on this preproduction model. It will be identical to the 10-25 in terms of pretty much everything including par focal.

  • @alexsystems2001
    @alexsystems2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The GH5 is just such a nice image still for an aging camera.

    • @Simoneister
      @Simoneister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Funnily enough, cameras don't get worse over time haha

    • @GungKrisna12
      @GungKrisna12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Simoneister it's because newer cameras are better and better

    • @Jaymino_
      @Jaymino_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta agree with ya

    • @waynecake5867
      @waynecake5867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A lot of my friends working in the industry say GH5 color is much richer than A7S3

    • @edjefferson9175
      @edjefferson9175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is also a very workable camera. Ergonomics, menus, customization and more

  • @shabuj00009
    @shabuj00009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DPReview TV : Please give an example of micro four third perfocal lense?

  • @mipmipmipmipmip
    @mipmipmipmipmip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love what panasonic does to get people started on setting up video rigs while still keeping the AF convenience of consumer photo zooms and at prices below manual focus cine zooms (ok, not parfocal but the breathing works).

    • @davisarmstrong8952
      @davisarmstrong8952 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will be parfocal, it's done via firmware and works the exact same way as on the 10-25 which has very good parfocal.

  • @jpkosoltrakul
    @jpkosoltrakul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @6:50 My eyes were on my second monitor, when I heard Jordan said about the step motor, then suddenly the noise that I thought something was squeaking. I was like what the heck was Jordan doing? lol

  • @vaidehiarts
    @vaidehiarts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To empty pockets with this beautiful monster, versus carry my Pana Leica 25 f/1.4 and Pana 42.5 f/1.7, that is the question (or is it really?).. definitely a bigger dilemma for those who want to get into native MFT glass, but for those who're already invested, this may not be worth it. @Jordan - Could you perhaps offer your opinion on this lens (and the 10-25 f/1.7) vis a vis the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8? That range is slightly different, but does cover a fair amount of the coveted range between 10 to 50 mm (and is much smaller and lighter, although slower in focal length too).

  • @MrVass23
    @MrVass23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, like always! 👍🏻 At 3:59 min that is a Nikon Z fc! But why? 😀

  • @Breukies
    @Breukies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the lens stabilized?

  • @SovietLensReviews
    @SovietLensReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't fault Leica for their M43 lenses, a lot of quality glass there. Can't really see this one being quite as useful as the ultrawide though, does still seem like a very video-centric lens.

  • @Ulrich.Bierwisch
    @Ulrich.Bierwisch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If a lens isn't parfocal, it is possible to correct this and as far as I know, Panasonic is doing this. At 4:41 it shows this isn't done if the lens is set to manual focus. Since the effect is very obvious with this lens, it might be a good opportunity to do a comparison between manual and corrected zoom to show how good the correction works.
    This lens seems also to be a good example to show the difference between the normal and the linear manual focus in the new GH5-II.

    • @Ulrich.Bierwisch
      @Ulrich.Bierwisch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Update: According to Panasonic, the lens should be electronic parfocal, so there must be something wrong with the behavior in this video.

  • @rowanstrang8072
    @rowanstrang8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    its nice that the focus and aperture rings are matched between the two but Panasonic should go the extra step though and sell a geared version

  • @andreasgiobel6355
    @andreasgiobel6355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Using quite often at night time my 50-100 Sigma W/ Metabones XL Speed booster. Yes the autofocus works beyond my expectations. And it stops down from 1.8 to 1.2 (1.1 is showed in camera). The combo is faster but more expensive if you buy new. And it’s heavy. It reminds me why I like my other fast mft lenses. Weight is an issue whit this combo.

    • @superzero4250
      @superzero4250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Feels deceptively light even with the battery grip on the GH5II, and even more so on the GX8…

  • @przybylskipawel
    @przybylskipawel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw recenty another review of this lens by Richard Wong. In his test his copy seems to be perfectly parfocal. Do you have any insight to what Panasonic claims on that feature / property? Or maybe his testing scenario was flawed?

    • @thatjordandrake
      @thatjordandrake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We've looked into this extensively with some help from Panasonic and Patrick Tomasso. It seems if you manually focus with the clutch set to the front 'AF' position, the lens is effectively parfocal. I suspect this is what Richard Wong did. When you use the clutch in its back "Manual Focus' position, the lens is no longer parfocal. I'm hoping this will be rectified in the production version, we'll certainly keep you updated.

    • @przybylskipawel
      @przybylskipawel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatjordandrake Doesn't it look like the lens is not truely parfocal and with focus clutch not engaged it is the focus motor that is compensating for focus shift while zooming? Thus focus is not truely manual unless you engage the clutch.

  • @uncivil_engineer8013
    @uncivil_engineer8013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adding a comment for the algorithm engagement because M43 stuff doesn't seem to get much viewer love.
    Also, mildly curious if this lens would have the same CA issues on Olympus bodies (even if it's perhaps not marketed as a stills-oriented lens) as some other Panny lenses do.

  • @danieldougan269
    @danieldougan269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice, but I'll keep my Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and probably pick up the 50-100mm at some point. With my Viltrox EF-M2 speedbooster, they become f1.2 lenses on Micro Four Thirds. And, since I have the OM-D E-M1 Mark II, there's also phase-detect autofocus, so that helps focus them.
    The cost is also lower than these Panasonic lenses, and I could adapt them to an APS-C mirrorless camera or just put them on a Canon APS-C DSLR if I had one of those.

  • @drewcrawford3211
    @drewcrawford3211 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Making Chris earn his pay check. Good on yah Jordan. If you don't get this sit, neither does he

  • @KarlBarbosa
    @KarlBarbosa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I shoot portraiture, and if it wasn't for the fact that I also own a Z6 as my primary camera, I'd jump on this lense right away. I mean, it's a F/1.7 *zoom* lense. This is craaaazy.

  • @sks96816
    @sks96816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Power OIS sync.....?

  • @ales_krejci
    @ales_krejci 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought it was full frame on the fist glance, it would be a genius lens and all I need with f1,7 :-)

  • @DeMorcan
    @DeMorcan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shot on the GH5? Interesting

  • @JennyDarukat
    @JennyDarukat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see this compared to the Sigma 1.8 zooms (the 50-100 specifically) for stills. Been considering to look for a portrait zoom for my G85 for a while and I feel like there's far too little portrait and stills centric coverage of MFT.

    • @ForeverYoungAaron
      @ForeverYoungAaron 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In case you’re not familiar with Olympus lenses, the 1.2 primes are excellent for portraits! And the Sigma 1.4 Contemporary primes do an excellent job as well. I know you’re talking zooms mostly but there’s definitely some great portrait lenses in the system I think!

    • @waynecake5867
      @waynecake5867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But this lens has the Leica vibe, this is a real difference.

    • @JennyDarukat
      @JennyDarukat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waynecake5867 it is, it's just also twice the price and I'm not in a position to pay that

    • @JennyDarukat
      @JennyDarukat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ForeverYoungAaron I'm honestly really happy with my 45 1.8, it's just that the focal length isn't something I'll leave on my camera over my 17 1.8 or 12-40 - I'd like to have something flexible enough to leave on while still delivering shallow portraits. Sigma's 56 1.4 also looks great, but that's the same problem as the 45 - they're just a little too locked in for me, I'm more of a 40 (equivalent) or 70-200 kinda shooter generally

    • @waynecake5867
      @waynecake5867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JennyDarukat I owned both 10-25 and 18-35 for several months. Then I noticed my 18-35 is collecting dust. Especially when you mentioned portrait photography! Using manual focus to shoot portrait is a pain. (Auto focus adapter? Not quite working on 18-35) What’s more important is the image contrast and color is much more vibrant on the Leica. If you only shot video, 18-35 and 50-100 are both okay.

  • @allencrider
    @allencrider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think that pair would be great for wedding work.

    • @Seanonyoutube
      @Seanonyoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For wedding work full frame makes more sense.

    • @allencrider
      @allencrider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Seanonyoutube Nah. Not enough 16 x 20 prints ordered for full-frame to make sense.

    • @obscurelines
      @obscurelines 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allencrider three added value of FF is that you can crop and in weddings I find myself cropping all the time because you can't always make sure gurning uncle Dave game walked into you perfect shot.

    • @allencrider
      @allencrider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@obscurelines You just made a case for using medium format cameras at weddings instead of full frame.

    • @obscurelines
      @obscurelines 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allencrider been there done that.

  • @QueerDisasterKitty
    @QueerDisasterKitty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg I love my Oly 12-40 2.8 Pro for street stills, yet I still always wished there was a faster zoom in that 25-50 range out there. But ill never be able to afford this one so ill probably end up with a 45mm fast prime instead :(

  • @rowanstrang8072
    @rowanstrang8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Blackmagic were to update the m4/3 Pocket Cinema Camera (120fps please) then this lens would be an instant buy for me

    • @kc-qw4mh
      @kc-qw4mh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And internal ND

  • @impatrickt
    @impatrickt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    damn I was gonna use this for blurry christmas lights. bummer.

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obviously it’s not parfocal if you focus at the wide end. The depth of field is much larger and you focus won’t be precise. You zoom in all the way and focus, then you check if the focus shifts when you zoom out. The 12-60mm f2.8-f4 is practically parfocal.

  • @CharlieVN
    @CharlieVN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The 10-25 is so good with range, this one is much less desirable IMO.

    • @rowanstrang8072
      @rowanstrang8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      disagree, way more interested in this lens than the other 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ although I do wish it was just touch longer

    • @JeremyHalterman
      @JeremyHalterman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would’ve much preferred something like a 20-42.5mm to cover all of Panasonic’s f/1.7 primes in a single video-oriented lens. I find that I rarely use my 10-25mm under 18mm and am pretty sure I wouldn’t get much use out of the long end of this one.

  • @trym2121
    @trym2121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd love to see apsc lenses like these. 33-70/35-70 f2.2 or something like that

    • @salmanul_fares
      @salmanul_fares 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean there's already an excellent Sigma 18-35 and 50-100 1.8, maybe a mirrorless video centric version of the same DG DN branded.

    • @DeepteshLovesTECH
      @DeepteshLovesTECH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is 17-70 f2.8 by Tamron, also at an affordable price.

  • @markshirley01
    @markshirley01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This will be great on the new GH6.

  • @TMM6900
    @TMM6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The zfc is so beautiful with old lens. Wouldn't mind if nikon released official speed booster

  • @lilzohan7078
    @lilzohan7078 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Ninja Atomos slows down auto focus?? Is that true

  • @LucaBono.Studio
    @LucaBono.Studio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's hope Panasonic will make these zoom lenses also for the S series...

    • @Molybdan42
      @Molybdan42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Way too big for FF

  • @hankroest6836
    @hankroest6836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously funky outro music there...

    • @thatjordandrake
      @thatjordandrake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks to our friends at BeatSuite!

    • @hankroest6836
      @hankroest6836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatjordandrake The music in your videos is always very good, very well chosen and well integrated.

  • @IslandFilmMaker
    @IslandFilmMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BAD JORDAN... making Chris Hobblet do a walk & talk :'( Love that lenses

  • @EnerGeezerSquirrel
    @EnerGeezerSquirrel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Geez, Jordan, why are you taking it so easy on Chris?
    I would've made him do a JOG-&-Talk!
    ;-)>

  • @ichi4001
    @ichi4001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The only issue with this is the size. A friend of mine owns the 10-25mm and it is built & weighs like a tank.

  • @karenvrolijk183
    @karenvrolijk183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at the 10-25 mm review on lemstip we can see that lens is just as sharp as the very best prime mFT has out there. So that makes it a really viable option for still shooterstoo If th 25-50 mms as good those two lenses are a fantasticduo for all pupouses within their range.

    • @LexTNeville
      @LexTNeville 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As sharp as a prime? That'd be incredible. Where is the lemstip test?

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LexTNeville It's sharper than the majority of prime lenses.

  • @QuietOC
    @QuietOC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    50-135mm F3.5 zooms were introduced in the early 1980's but didn't survive the transition to AF a few years later.

    • @Molybdan42
      @Molybdan42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It still has the speed of a 1.7...

  • @CLAYNPOTTER1
    @CLAYNPOTTER1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Jordan is hiding out of the frame somewhere with a whip in his hand, saying "Walk Chris, Walk!"

  • @MichaelSchagen
    @MichaelSchagen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Panasonic lens, targeted at videographers that isn't parfocal? I find that hard to believe. Were you using a pre-production sample with pre-production firmware? Another reviewer (Richard Wong) claimed it is parfocal.

  • @obscurelines
    @obscurelines 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely not a primary stills option. Added to the 10-25 it doesn't offer much over a standard full frame and a 24-105mm after you use increased iso to counter the difference between f1.7 and F4.

  • @Henry-ve3ye
    @Henry-ve3ye 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awww.. papi can walk now.. ❤️

  • @darrinyo-mamakimble7002
    @darrinyo-mamakimble7002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jordan makes Chris walk… Jordan does his entire part of the review sitting down… Come on man! LOL

  • @mipmipmipmipmip
    @mipmipmipmipmip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd have loved IS but it would have added so much bulk - and now you don't lose IS if you put this on an Olympus

  • @thegrayyernaut
    @thegrayyernaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if they're going to make a 50-100mm f/1.7 xD That would be INSANE.

    • @JonInLondon
      @JonInLondon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A 70-200 FF f/2.8 on a SpeedBooster (or equivalent) would be 50-140 f/2 ... actually I have all those bits ... hmmm ...

  • @anitafnelsonk2826
    @anitafnelsonk2826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Given Lumix’s F1.7 primes are so budget friendly and light weight, this F1.7 zoom seems only value to those really need to zoom a lot in making video with shallow dof that F2.8 is not sufficient.

  • @leeinnes7127
    @leeinnes7127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chris, be thankfull that Jordan didn't insist on a hop & talk instead

  • @burgunbeerd
    @burgunbeerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so confused about getting a m43 camera and lens that is bigger than a fullframe in size

    • @inorogNL
      @inorogNL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enough smaller choices in m43 world. Take a look at those 1.8 primes

    • @slovoflud
      @slovoflud 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can only be confused by it if you think that size should have been the only advandage of MFT.

    • @thegrayyernaut
      @thegrayyernaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You get a 20-50mm and 50-100mm equivalent with f/1.7 light gathering capacity. What more do you even want? What more can they even do for you?

  • @PolluxChung
    @PolluxChung 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish I could afford it.

  • @miguellee3
    @miguellee3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here for Chris’ foot. 😂

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why no one can make a lens like the Samsung NX S lenses, 16-50mm F2-2.8 and the venerable 50-150mm F2.8
    I never seen lenses so rasor sharp, such beautiful bokeh rendition, good focus pulling capability, super quiet focus motor.
    Just overall lovely lenses.

    • @slows728
      @slows728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 24-70mm S Pro is as sharp as the 16-50mm S, I have both (still have two copies of the 16-50S). The 24-70mm S is even a bit sharper at the wide end. Bokeh is better on the 24-70mm S Pro too. However the weight, colors and versatility (MFD on the wide angle) are better on the 16-50mm S. The 4k of the NX1 is still awesome too.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slows728
      The M4/3 24-70mm is that not more like a 36 to 105mm in APS-C world?
      What annoys me in the M4/3 world is the lack of zoom's that can compete with the compact fast zooms of APS-C world and full frame, Panasonic F1.7 zooms are really large, much larger than my Samsung S lenses apart from the 50 to 150mm one.
      Mind boggling to be honest.

    • @slows728
      @slows728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SMGJohn No the 24-70mm S Pro is for L-mount (Full Frame) so it is a true 24-70mm.

    • @slows728
      @slows728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SMGJohn The Panasonic 10-25mm for M43 is not so much larger than the 16-50S. The quality is great, contrast and microcontrast is really awesome on this lens. But the 16-50S has more bokeh. Both have awesome colors.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slows728
      Ah okay the full frame lens, yes I used it, I used to have a Panasonic S5 but I had to return it, too heavy, going from NX1 to S5 is like going from a speedy hatchback to a monster truck.

  • @PSORIK
    @PSORIK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    За эти деньги можно будет взять Sony A7 IV (180к) + добавить и взять значительно дешевле объектив, как и более универсальный - такой как Tamron 17-28 (2.8) или 17-70 (2.8)

  • @romenorom
    @romenorom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If m4/3 sensors would have a similar performance of xt2 or xt3 will be a stellar system.

    • @Wreneagle
      @Wreneagle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From a physical perspective there is like a 2/3 of a stop difference. Not a big deal imho. The real issue is current m43 sensors are a generation behind or more. My point being it's not a system design flaw but more a specific model issue.

    • @UberM3n
      @UberM3n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have all my hopes on the gh6

    • @romenorom
      @romenorom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wreneagle sensor is not so much smaller. But dynamic range and Iso sensitivity is one stop worse.

    • @Wreneagle
      @Wreneagle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@romenorom I'm just calculating from sensor size: fujifilm apsc is about 370mm^2 versus 225 mm^2 for m43. That's a ratio of 1.65 to one, not 2 to one giving 0.717 stops of extra light (recall a stop is a doubling of total light). That's closer to 2/3 of a stop than a whole stop. I'm not saying 1/3 of a stop matters much, but if we are being technical let's do it correctly.
      Of course one could argue that cropping the m43 to a 3:2 aspect ratio makes the apsc have a full stop of advantage, but by the same token we could be cropping the apsc to 4:3 aspect ratio and getting only 1/2 a stop of advantage.

  • @ahojahojish
    @ahojahojish 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jordan you MONSTER!! You made Chris walk....to think I once thought you were a good person....dissapointed.

  • @salmanul_fares
    @salmanul_fares 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Review the Olympus 12-100 F4

  • @plebbyplebster9595
    @plebbyplebster9595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jordan is awesome

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There should be 14-40mm f2.

  • @JerryWilliam63
    @JerryWilliam63 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Com'on Jordan, make Chris run.

  • @tomperry9034
    @tomperry9034 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the price of this lens you could buy a full frame body and primes second hand. See the difference in IQ straight way, especially in low light. DoF and ISO performance is the killer for micro four thirds as a photographic format. Would be interested in seeing the t-rating for thos lens too, especially at the far end of the zoom range.

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz ปีที่แล้ว

      I can get this lens second hand for 1100 bucks. Where's my modern ff camera and primes between 20mm and 50mm with f3.4 apertures? I'd need a 20, 24, 28, 35, and 50 to really cover the same bases as this zoom too.
      DOF and iso performance on m43 are perfectly fine. They are lesser than FF but already perfectly sufficient for 100 percent of photographic needs. Not 99.9%. There ain't a goddamn thing on this planet I can't shoot with m43 and in high enough quality to be paid for it.

  • @GiriPrasath001
    @GiriPrasath001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sony Alpha we need apsc lens like this

  • @frankfeng2701
    @frankfeng2701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's still much cheaper to achieve the equivalent range/DOF on larger sensor, for example, Tamron 35-150 2.8-4, Sigma 50-100 1.8. If on budget, I'd adapt those lenses onto M43 bodies.

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Sigma 50-100 has insane breathing though. I'm quite tempted to get one, but the breathing makes me think twice.

    • @frankfeng2701
      @frankfeng2701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@professionalpotato4764 True. Options are limited on apsc.

  • @jamesstanley7263
    @jamesstanley7263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But MFT is dead, isnt it? ISN'T IT?

  • @09goral
    @09goral 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Chris not learning from his mistakes, still wearing flip flops.

    • @scott2100
      @scott2100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      to be fair, work boots that are re enforced against nails are not very common

  • @alhOOO2O
    @alhOOO2O 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jordan, I very much hope that Chris is thanking you for completely unselfishly shouldering the majority of the load in this video… 😜🤣

  • @Vladi_mir_M
    @Vladi_mir_M 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It should be T1,3 and parfocal.

    • @lee8org
      @lee8org 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just like my Olympus prime lenses!

  • @frankluo230
    @frankluo230 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    25-70mm F1.7 would be great. 50mm F1.7 is just a tad short on the long end. 10-25mm is 2.5X this is only 2X

    • @elvirredzepovic6898
      @elvirredzepovic6898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't do physics right ? Yes, it DOES show.

    • @dreammachine86
      @dreammachine86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I have exactly the same thoughts about this lens. The 10-25mm I think is acceptable having a 2.5x zoom ratio considering that it's unique not just in M43 but all systems, being a fast lens that goes up to 50mm full-frame equivalent but also all the way down to 20mm ultra-wide. It's known that making an ultra-wide lens faster is difficult, especially a zoom. There also aren't any fast ultra-wide prime lenses with autofocus for M43 so the 10-25 fills this gap too.
      However the 25-50mm should be a less difficult focal range to implement in a fast zoom so I think having at least the same 2.5x zoom ratio as the 10-25 was expected, if not even a slightly higher ratio such as 3x; so 25-75mm. That would've been perfect, and Panasonic could have included 135mm and 150mm in their marketing blurb about the traditional filmmaking focal lengths that their f1.7 zooms are meant to cover. There are also many great fast primes already in that range in the M43 system; Panasonic's own Nocticron, Olympus 45mm f1.2, Sigma 56mm f1.4 and Olympus 75mm f1.8. There is no 135mm equivalent in M43 so Panasonic could've taken care of that too.
      The f1.7 zooms are very expensive so it would've been nice to see this 25-50 go that little bit further. Maybe they were limited to what they could do having to make it exactly the same dimensions as the 10-25 and physically could not extend the focal length further. I'm sure it will do well in its niche as an optically excellent video lens, I've already looked at a number of sample images and they look lovely. Out of my budget atm but hopefully one day I'll be able to afford the f1.7 pair, despite my disappointment at the focal length not being pushed further it still looks like a lovely lens that produces beautiful results.

  • @Crispy_Bee
    @Crispy_Bee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And I thought the GFX lenses were huge...

  • @edwin_ac
    @edwin_ac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a portion of Chris' pay will go to Jordan on this episode.

  • @BasketBaLLIsLife3223
    @BasketBaLLIsLife3223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think there's a single M43 lens that doesn't have LoCA to some extent and that is VERY frustrating.

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sony made the 18 to 110 pz parfocal zoom lens for e mount and we still dont have an equivalent on micro four thirds.

    • @80-80.
      @80-80. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      9-55mm f2 Don't think we will see that anytime soon. Lol.

  • @rowanstrang8072
    @rowanstrang8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    shame it's not parfocal, real shame.
    Greater shame that Panasonic can't just account for that in software and make it parfocal for all intents and purposes

    • @salmanul_fares
      @salmanul_fares 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe through a software update

    • @elvirredzepovic6898
      @elvirredzepovic6898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@salmanul_fares It is a design issue. HARDWARE design and it has nothing to do with "firmware". Can a new firmware create some new glass in that lens ? Do you ppl have schools ?