How To Get Started With Doom Mods, GZDoom and ZDL
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2024
- Gone and done an updated Doom mod tutorial because I've had a few folks ask me about getting mods working and load orders. So here's a basic tutorial video on GZDoom and ZDL, hope this is helpful to anyone that might need it.
Download links:
GZDOOM - zdoom.org/downloads
ZDL - zdoom.org/wiki/ZDL#Versions
CONTENTS:
INTRO - 00:00
BASE WADS - 00:35
SOURCEPORTS - 01:26
SETUP GZDOOM - 02:47
MOD FILES - 04:05
ZDL - 05:11
TIPS/OUTRO - 07:01
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This is the guide I needed..... But it cames 10 years late 😂
Freedoom, it's a huge help to people who don't own the wad files
Can you post the names Of the mods used on this video?
Thanks
The mod list you used on the video would be useful
I would like to see the list of played mods in this video too.
The Wisdom has been finally passed to the younger generations.
Then the worthy ones will come to the community.
Wisdoom
No man, its a long road for that especially for the really old generations but especially for the young ones
Yes
@@giovlad3 That's why it'll be a selective, whoever overcomes the challenge, they'll be part of the community
Always remember:
When you make a frankenstein doom wad, expect some incompatibilities with some parts
Sometimes it's because some wads are too old and not compatible with your version of Gzdoom or Zandronum and sometimes it's because some wads don't collide well with each other, like 2 weapon packs
Doom is 27 years old now.
I guess it really is truly Eternal...
28
It cames out in the 1993
@@lukesabaton5469 27 and a half year :p
@@lukesabaton5469 May 13, you still have 2 weeks from the day I wrote this.
*Crazy lol
30 in a few days! I'm a zoomer playing through for the first time and it's still a banger
i never knew about mod loaders like ZDL, this whole time i've been editing my load order in the gzdoom ini like a pleb, my life has been changed forever!
I like to use Doom Launcher. Its organisation is crucial for all the mods I use (they're mostly small but VERY numerous).
*:) ZDL is pretty awesome*
This video actually got me to download ZDL. Been playing mods for years just by dragging and dropping into GZdoom. Makes things so much easier.
Welcome to the new world of load-order-requiring megamods.
@@Carbine64 I know. I've finally entered the 21st century
Wait a minute, how do you load standalone mods with ZDL?
I'm still doing it this way cuz the guide didnt work.
Finally, the entire world can experience the glorious HDoom mod for themselves!
Idk man,it's heresy.
heck yeah
*LOL*
I dont know, im having some troubles with the GZDOOM files, and really need some help
That fact that you included turning off the *atrocious* looking default Graf Zahl/Le NO chicken texture filtering as a vital way to start Doom made me leave a like.
For the record, I actually do play with certain filter but it's vastly different from the smear you start with. (I swear everytime I see screenshots of new wad releases or projects with it, it makes me scream in Romero painbytes.)
GZ can play with whatever settings he wants, and I’m certainly not going to judge his preferences when he’s the one putting in all the work to make the source port what it is. That said, it’s always such a relief to see people talk about turning that filtering off, because I really think a lot of people just don’t even know that’s an option!
the xRBZ one or something like that, right?
@@ShallowVA it’s cool that Graf likes playing with texture filtering, but a large majority of people don’t like seeing pixel art smeared in some ugly OpenGL filter. GZDoom team needs to stop leaving it as a default for new releases.
@@carrotmaster8521 That's right! xBRZ with 2x HQ resize. Nothing else is necessary to me.
@@nerdybunny9975 That's exactly what I think too. Default options to me imply that this is the 'intended way' to play Doom, or GZDoom. I've a similiar issue with hiding the full option menu on default.. just why?
I think we'd love 2 videos. One for your favorite WAD files that just gives us new levels and maybe some new weapons, textures, the odd enemy here and there as well as a list of your favorite MODS that change pretty much everything!
*_That would be nice!_*
thank you SO much for mentioning the texture filtering, i shiver in thoughts of how many people are still playing doom that looks like a blurry mess
5:00 - Say, running Hideous Destructor with 99 addon packs.
25 different weapon addons, UaS, a couple of enemy addons, the item addons... I legit expect it to just crash on load sometimes
Been Doom fan since 1996. Can't believe I'm getting into hard modding now. Thanks for the video! This will save A LOT of time.
This is a great video for people new to the doom mod community, and I am glad this is out there to help them in their foray into the craziness of Doom mods, plus there are some things here that I did not necessarily know that I am glad to learn of!
I have enjoyed your videos quite a bit and I'm glad I got to know them and find out about so many mods (currently focusing on a pre-final pandemonia mod, with the compendium megawad), and I look forward to enjoying many more!
GZDoom master race
GZDoom sucks
@@THE-RETURN-OF-THE-RAT You sure?
Holy shit this is sooooo helpful, been watching your videos for a bit, now I feel equipped to get into all these crazy mods. Thanks!
Thank you VERY MUCH! This was super super helpful and informative. I was sent your way from Draugrak through one of his Brutal Doom videos. The Alien mod looks like so much fun.
An excellent video explaining the basics, thanks!
And I look forward to that compilation list. 💪🏻
I can't believe how many people didn't know about ZDL. I've been using it for years and honestly would not bother with Doom mods as much as I do if it didn't exist. It has saved me countless hours of extra tinkering. Great vid Icarus, it looks like this one has wrangled in even more people to the mod scene.
It's been years since I stopped playing Doom because I had to sell my old personal computer and I honestly had forgotten how to run the mods and map packs. Thanks Icarus, you have surely helped many lost souls with this mini tutorial.
I feel this is the best tutorial out there for showing newbs how to properly mod doom. Well done. Its short and well explained.
Hey Icarus, I got one for you: a megareview of FinalDoomer alongside each of its 8 respective megawads. I'm 5 of 8 right now - I'm halfway through BTSX with JPCP and Whitemare to go. I burned out sometime last year but I'm taking it up again.
If you go for it, be sure to record each one seperately so we can see the psychological wear as you push through 256 Doom maps.
This video is so based for the simple fact that it tells people to turn off texture filtering. :^)
Excellent gore mod 👌
You know it! lol. I use filtering only woth NormalNx upscaling, so it all turns out good.
Thanks a bunch! I managed to get mods running some years back, then I got super busy in life, and now I have free time again. In this new free time I have, I found that younger me had done the most rickety job hanging by a shoestring, and I couldn’t for the life of me start up the old things I did. I deleted all the old files, came to this video, and now I have everything installed, organized, and working! Off to play Brutal Doom!
You had an older video that worked great and I've played hours of Sunlust with Guncaster Vindicated. Thanks so much for these videos, they've changed my life for the better!!!!
I had never heard of ZDL before this video, thanks for sharing! This makes mods a lot easier
Wanna make them even easier? Use Doom Launcher.
or DoomRunner (shameless self advertisement 😁)
Glad you uploaded this tutorial, it took me way too long to get ZDL
I used your old tutorial a few weeks ago. I've had a blast playing the silent Hill Doom remake and brutal Doom especially
Thanks for the guide bro, its been a while since I played classic doom and I had an itch to try some mods so this was really helpful
Thank you for the video! Really helps for someone like me, who doesn't know where to start.
I am actually quite a few years younger than original Doom and I never played it before but I decided to give it a try since I always loved this type of fps shooters (mainly played Serious Sam games). It's amazing to me how many total conversion mods there is. Basically when I am done with Doom 1 and 2 I can continue playing those mods pretty much for as long as I enjoy it since there is so many if them. This video helped me to understand how to play original games on modern PCs but also how to install mods so it's very useful. I'll definitely watch this again when I decide to set everything up
Great informative video, for people looking to get into Classic Doom (or people like myself that was into it years ago but forgot).
A video on recommended GZDoom settings would be cool. Some of us just don't know what half these settings do. I didn't really know about Texture filtering, but that is the FIRST thing I would turn off.
Combined Arms V.2 just dropped in & it is so different from previous versions . can't wait for your review
for those wanting a suggestion of mods to use together I highly recommend
high noon drifter
the three below make for good "universal additions" to 90% of mods
Bolognese
tilt++
precise crosshair
it pairs well with ancient aliens (somewhat difficult slaughter mappack)
or strange aeons
Ah finally I can see the enemies better with the better resolution. Thanks for the help!
I already knew al this but shared it with some friends, great job!
thank you my man, been playing doom since it came out and im just now getting into wads and this helped me a lot.
Consistently a beacon of the DOOM community, thank you for what you do.
Thanks for the tutorial it really helps! I wouldn't have been able to play mods if it wasn't for you. Thanks!
I've just recently started playing Eviternity, Sunlust and BTSX2 and they're absolutely amazing!
ZDL + GZDoom has been the way to go for me. Getting things like Master Levels running properly took some work thought
Thank you very much, i was searching for the best launcher for GZDoom and came across this video. 😃👍 ZDL seems both awesome and simple. 🙂
Very nice! Btw you can also run ZDL through Steam by simply going to your game folder, deleting dosbox, copying ZDL in there and renaming the executable dosbox. This way it will count your hours played and you can even get the Steam overlay working with a little fiddling.
HeyO! This is exactly what I was searchin. Thanks Icarus BIG UP from France !
Thanks for the references. Keep it going
Would love a video about your personal favorites, especially if you include recommendations for mapsets. It's nice get info on difficulties and such wrt the popular ones
Icarus, here again a year later, this is still the best way to re re re learn how to load WADs, thank you
I’m glad you have brought up zdl as I have spoken to many who do not use it and find themselves having trouble with load order primarily.
Yea, Everybody else just say: "Go write a Bat file for it"
And I'm like: " I id rather drag and drop into zdl.
Bats and shell scripts are easy, but good loaders like ZDL are so much better.
Been having a lot of fun composing custom doom midis lately
*I AM DOING MY PART.*
I didn't expect a Starship Troopers reference in the comment...
@@lordfriedrick7911 I mean, I'm a long time viewer and I find it criminal that Icarus doesn't do better on TH-cam after all the years. Helping much as I can...
Service guarantees citizenship.
Mr. Icarus is one of the best youtubers I've ever watched :D I love your videos, dude. For some reason it's more fun for me to watch you playing than to actually go there and play the mods myself
*Yes! He really is good! His one of my favorites too!*
I have been playing DOOM mods for more than 10 years now and never knew ZDL existed until this video. It has made playing DOOM mods, or even just Vanilla DOOM, so much easier. Now all my mods are sorted in tidy little folders so I don't end up squinting at my GZDoom folder wondering what the heck I'm looking at.
You could also use LZDoom for Low-End PCs/Potato PCs
That's what I do! It works great for most things, but it's got a few little foibles that come with being a port for potatoes, such as Hideous Destructor's scopes being really pixelated, just to name an example.
I remember first watching doom mod madness and then rushing to download every single one of the mods on your videos. Then I had a folder full of files I didn't knew what the fuck to do with, so I spent an entire evening figuring out the secrets of modded doom. Hell, I even downloaded zdl without knowing °-°. I'm glad you made this guide, the more people playing, the better for our old friend doom, rip and tear fellas
I remember when JDoom was first around but things improved more since then. Later was Hard Doom and then Complex for the huge variety of monsters that keep replays interesting.
I see a combination of Lost Civilian and High Noon Drifter. I see you too are a man of culture.
Sincerely
A person who has only played Lost Civilisation through fully only with High Noon Drifter.
Thanks to you I was finally able to get project brutality and sigil working in an efficiant manner.
thank you i needed this
*_:)_*
Nice rundown, much obliged!
Thanks for a super-simple explanation.
Holy shit dude I had never heard of the ZDL thing before. SUUUUUCH a big help!!!!
Holy damn
That wallpaper is sick
Thank you for creating this tutorial. Modding Doom is much easier than I thought... Out of curiosity I tried brutal doom 😱 😅 after that I had a lot of fun trying out some of the others aswell. It still surprises me what they can do with an almost 30 year old game
Very helpful, thank you very much for the upload!
Oh, boy, today I start my jorney through Doom mods and OG doom in general
Maaaaaan, and here I've been drag and dropping my pk3 files like a chump.
Bought a pc for this back in the day. Can’t believe it’s still a thing, but it taught me how to build a computer, and type things to make it work.
Doom mod loader is a good ZDL alternative, it's more user friendly and has some really neat features
Thanks dude! Helps nicely for real!!!!
You're a legend, thanks for the helpful vid.
In my case I switch between GzDoom and Zandronum, depending on the wad requirements or if want to play with my friends. Also, I like to use Internet Doom Explorer as my launcher because I can not only make a server and play online, but also I am able to make these wad combinations on the Single Player tab of IDE.
This video also made me realize that I have to clean and organize my Doom folder, I have a lot of useless wads, zips, etc and it takes more than 30gb of space... I even have old versions of Zandronum, GzDoom and a Skulltag lol
As someone who is software tech illiterate - THANK YOU. Ima be trying this the next time the weather sours - for now, though , spring is here....
Turning off the texture filter is a real pro move. It improves performance greatly and the retro textures fit the map design, with all those right angles
EDIT: There is an alternative method to ZDL that I use, but it might be less user friendly. I create a shorcut of GZDoom shorcut, go to properties, and add the files I want into the destination text area. Many people use this method because once you get used to it, it's super fast and easy to organize by renaming the shortcuts
I suppose this system could also easily be modified to add shortcuts to game launchers like Steam, Gog Galaxy, Launchbox and Playnite
texture filter hardly affects performance at all. But you should turn it anyway, as it just looks bad except with very few mods.
Also a much better method than shortcuts are .bat files. It works just like the shortcut basically, but you can edit them in a text editor like a .txt file. Which is very useful when you have commands with lots of different wads and settings which are to be loaded at once. Editing that in a shortcut's property window can quickly become annoying the more complex your commands become.
@@lampenpam That's true generally, but not for Doom because every particle or effect is a sprite, corpses don't dissappear, slaughtermaps, etc.
Textures don't affect performance unless you have tens of thousands of textures on screen, which is normal doom gameplay. It's as easy as doing the test on a map like nuts, or any one that lags your computer.
Which commands do you use that are "complex"? I've never used any command other than -file to, you know, load the files.
Anyhow a .bat is just a text file with commands, so you're taking an extra step and you're still gonna have one file per setup, same as with shortcuts. It'll make you feel more like a hacker tho
@@snake698 texture filtering is an extremly light task, and it is also done by the GPU! Since GZDoom is almost always CPU limited, something like texture filtering doesn't have any impact at all. You can test it on a slaughter map yourself. Use "kill monsters" console command so nothing moves, and toggle the setting. You shouldn't see a difference in fps.
Technically .bat work exactly the same as shortcuts, but they are much easier to edit and experiment with. Here is how my folder looks like right now: i.imgur.com/d5PvKH1.png
I actually had more complex commands in the past. The craziest was Complex Doom Clusterfuck which came with like 16 files and it gave me errors until I figured out the right load-order.
Anyway here are some tricks I figured out, which I think also work if you use shortcuts:
-Using "*" in a folder destination, loads all mods inside the folder. "autoload" is the folder in which I put everything I load all the time regardless of what I play (like texture fixes, damage numbers, flashlight mods, and all these stuff can be toggled in in-game settings anyway).
-If you put "%*" after "-file", you can use the drag-n-drop method again in case you just want to quickly play some .wad you just downloaded without editing the file.
-using "^" is just a line break to organize your commands more neatly.
@@lampenpam I've tried it... I just set it up in any computer I get my hands on. You said it yourself, it depends on GPU: setting GZDoom in a computer with an integrated graphics card, for example, can make the game stutter when there's a lot on screen.
However, my original claim is not accurate either: you made me realize now that it doesn't necessarily increase performance, it just happens that I own a lot of old desktops from offices or made from spare parts that generally have little in the sense of graphics. So turning off texture filtering might not help you indeed.
The shorcut tips are nice. Because of how I have the directory structure I only ever used the asterisk to add the whole folder, but as you said I got used to specify the mod order and it generally works if put them in descending order of the scope of the mod (first go maps, then mods that heavily change mechanics and add enemies and weapons, then more subtle mods, then addons)
Never tried too much mixing though, I used to play mostly mods like Project Brutality or Demonsteele in custom campaigns
This was a great help for a noob like me, many thanks!
this video was as helpful as someone saying "just be happy?" to someone with depression
Help me a lot, Thank you dude.
Thanks, i needed this!
Great video. Thanks
This man knows exactly how confusing this can be for people and makes his video's humor around it
Thanks so much for making this tutorial! I've been wondering how to go about running a Doom source port for a while now and your video is really clear and helpful. I got a second-hand disc with all the wads for the original Doom trilogy today, followed your instructions with GZDoom, and I've just enjoyed a half hour of testing things out by blasting through some levels of Doom 2 and TNT. Thanks again for making this, it's supremely helpful.
cant wait for the HD vid
was a great stream
I got the Ashes 2063 along with Afterglow as standalone. Im in progress if dismantling it onto basic pieces and building my own wad/pk3 collection. I already own every game built on the engine at least on one platform. Thanks for the vid, I will prolly come back here a couple of time as I intend to go over multiple platforms :)
Thank you for this man
The Doom Launcher tool deserves a mention, it's essentially ZDL but better suited for more source ports. Want to launch the OG games in Crispy DOOM, Evernity in BOOM and PK3 mods in GZDOOM? It's got you covered, and there's a direct download feature from idgames if you want to play some random wads
Good stuff man
St Icarus doing the lord's work here, Romero bless him, Carmack watch over him .. 😂
Thank you gentleman.
Thanks buddy this helps alot
Ok, the GZDOOM is short and straight to the point. Kind of wished there's a way to have a tab that you can activate when launching and or deactivate when launching the game.
I swear, I wrote something just like this a year ago. Still, pretty sure you reach more people than me haha. Great vid!
Long awaited sequel
Aside from ZDL and Doom Mod Loader (DML) mentioned in the comments, there's is also a server browser/doom mod loading app out there - Doom Explorer. I really prefer it over ZDL, because it has a better GUI, much like the Doomseeker, and can be used for pretty much any source port you have (and not just Zandronum, unlike the Doomseeker).
I use doom launcher from realm667 site because zdl doesnt work for me
Funny how this was released 3 days ago which was when i started getting the craving to play Brutal Doom again XD good times
thanks a lot for the video i love 1993 doom
My go-to is Arachnotron Doom Launcher, but ZDL is the best to start out with tbh
One of the easiest to play around with as well
I'd like to add that ReShade can enhance doom by 100% by adding amazing stuff.
Personally I use ZDoom Executor instead of ZDL. It does the job alright too.
Also, careful when you update gzdoom. Once, I updated mine while i was dev-ing a weapon mod, and the mod suddenly broke after the update. Be sure your mods are updated too when you update gzdoom :p
Speaking of that, thank you, your video made me realize i need to get the latest Russian Overkill :p
Finally i can get Hdooom
You can also use Freedoom if you don't have Doom. It's an open-source project that can serve as replacement for the original Doom wad, giving you access to the mods.
Good man. Seems like a waste of breath to mention freedoom, but that wonderful game doesn''t get the respect it deserves. Those are still some of the best Doom map campaigns ive ever touched
thanks now i know how to use hdoom
I like the Hell Knight with a little helmet.
Icarus, this is a great video. I can use this now instead of having to use my text files I made an the couple crappy videos I made, I can just send people here, say "Watch this, any questions after, ask me." This video was much needed. Thanks man. Making Doom easy for new people is a must because it vcan be VERY overhwelming.