I live in Helsinki. But I visited Sweden for the first time

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  • @saraorback755
    @saraorback755 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad that you had a good time in Stockholm! I think a lot of Swedes have not realized how much Finland has evolved in the last 40 or so years. I hate people having loud conversations on their cellphones.

  • @sampohonkala4195
    @sampohonkala4195 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Like they say, the best thing about Helsinki is that it is so conveniently close to Stockholm.

  • @hachimaki
    @hachimaki 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Super weird that you met so many people that disliked Finland tbh, in 30+ years I've never heard anyone talk badly about Finland.

    • @shar3066
      @shar3066 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are always poking at us, irritating us in recent years so I do not find it hard to belive, that people find them to be an annoyance as they always insert themself into our buisness, quick to point out every mistake and how they do it better. Really having a shitty attitude towards Swedes and exerting themself at our expense is extremely annoying to me.

    • @missbork2468
      @missbork2468 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@shar3066To be fair, all of Sweden's neighboring countries are like that 😂

    • @johankaewberg8162
      @johankaewberg8162 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@missbork2468Exactly. Swedes and danes hate each other, Norse and Swedes despise each other… Except in the end we all respect and love each other. (DANSKJÄVLAR!)

    • @missbork2468
      @missbork2468 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@shar3066 Also, have you ever considered that Finns teasing and inserting themselves into everything is the only way to get Swedes' attentions, since they're often ignored and overlooked?

    • @swepower3597
      @swepower3597 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Me neither. Finns are generally considered stand-up people

  • @vicolin6126
    @vicolin6126 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Swedes generally like Finns, but some of the older people remember when lots of Finnish workers migrated over to Sweden in the 60's and 70's. Those workers often ended up as drunkards, and the stereotypical view of Finns in Sweden became "drunk people who like to fight with knives".
    Sweden and Finland used to be the same country for about 700 years, until Sweden lost a war with Russia in early 1800's. Then Russia took over Finland, and later on the Finns became independent in the early 1900's.

    • @nickolay6277
      @nickolay6277 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Swedes, still in the 2020's, seem to rely much on the stereotypes. I don't know if it has something to do with basic education in schools, do they teach a lot of things about neighbouring countries, cultures, history etc, or is that simply lack of general interest.
      As a Finn who travels alot in the Nordics I've definitely paid attention to it. I don't know if it is only towards Finland. My Norwegian colleague claimed it's towards Norway too, and went even to call Swedes "the Americans of the Nordics". To my surprise, Norwegians seem to know more about Finland than the Swedish.
      Some memorable and odd questions I've got from the Swedes during the years include:
      - does every Finn carry a knife with them? (wtf?)
      - is the ANY OTHER languages spoken in Finland than Finnish? (yes, it's 2020's, there are immigrants in Finland, large Swedish-speaking minority, Sami etc)
      - does Finland have paved roads?
      - has any of my family members committed suicide? (the answer is no, but made me think who goes to ask a question like this right after hearing me being Finnish)
      But all in all, Norway and Sweden are still my favourite foreign countries, and I could see myself living in both of them.

    • @vicolin6126
      @vicolin6126 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nickolay6277 I grew up in the Stockholm area, and there are usually some idiots who still drag these old stereotypes around. In Sweden, we are not taught much about Finland in school, at least not when I was a kid during the 2000's. Not many knew that Finland and Sweden used to be the same country, let alone for 700 years, but any idiot on the street knows that Sweden and Norway were in a union for 100 years. It gets frustrating. I think it has to do with our politicians publicly stating that "Sweden has no culture", and other trash like that. Imagine the kind of damage that does to a nations self-image and identity. Our history is in general not seen as important to the people in charge.

    • @CheriTheBery
      @CheriTheBery 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@nickolay6277"Americans of The Nordics" is such a fitting term. 😂

    • @UnlimitedAuthority
      @UnlimitedAuthority 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vicolin6126 >I think it has to do with our politicians publicly stating that "Sweden has no culture", and other trash like that. Imagine the kind of damage that does to a nations self-image and identity. Our history is in general not seen as important to the people in charge.
      I think this might be the most overstated problem in Swedish politics. One idiot politician says something stupid and all of a sudden it's a huge problem with our entire political class. Can someone please show me evidence that this is wide spread and in what way it negatively effects our country?

    • @vicolin6126
      @vicolin6126 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@UnlimitedAuthority Swedes are by definition no longer allowed to be proud of our own country. Raising the flag? Rasist. National anthem? Might offend someone.
      I remember back in high school we got this assignment to explain Swedish culture. The whole class had trouble coming up with stuff, other than Midsommar. This was back in 2012.
      My point is that we are not educated enough about our own culture, as it is for some reason not seen as important.

  • @marieheimburg8150
    @marieheimburg8150 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As a German living in Sweden I agree to a lot of your observations. I find that many Swedes are extremely polite and supportive or helpful if you ask them something... but same polite attitude can be used to create distance. The classic layer theory- professional kindness, but to get to know them really and connect... this takes so much more effort! But yes I also recommend you to see other places than Stockholm, vibes can be very different!

    • @shar3066
      @shar3066 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Swedes are a different breed. We grew up knowing threats came from everywhere so we do not trust easily. We are weary of all the ones saying they come in peace but attack us the next minute. They will charge us from all directions. So the best way to deal with it all is to keep your friends closer and your enemies at a arms lenght. That's Sweden in a nutshell. Doesn't mean we aren't friendly though. We will always treat our enemies with the greatest respect and even invite them to our home but we will not let you any closer than our living room.

    • @ChicoMuya
      @ChicoMuya  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your insight!

  • @ulricaandrae4381
    @ulricaandrae4381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hope you get tha chance to visit smaller towns in Sweden, and the countryside.
    I live in the south, the province of Småland.
    My town is invaded by tourists during the summer, it’s an old town with a lot of wooden houses. Very pretty and a slower pace.
    I’ll show you around! 🙂

  • @Perisa79
    @Perisa79 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Almost all, if not all swedes goes to kinder-garden -- preschool ---high-school--- Gymnasium pretty much with the exact same group of people.. So we form a tight bond with each other. That we keep our whole life..

    • @ulricaandrae4381
      @ulricaandrae4381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gymnasium (in Swedish) is like upper secondary school or equivalent to high school.
      Engelska ordet gymnasium betyder idrottshall. Så det inte blir missförstånd 🙂

  • @Miinx83
    @Miinx83 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    you should also visit Gothenburg during the summer 😊

  • @londiweziqubu3244
    @londiweziqubu3244 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am south african and came to Sweden in Feb last year.. and I can definitely say Swedes did suprise me they are actually very friendly.. I guess I prepared for the worst based on what I watched and listened to..

    • @ChicoMuya
      @ChicoMuya  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amazing! Good to know I wasn’t being delusional 😂

  • @karlsandemo1375
    @karlsandemo1375 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Please come to Uppsala. It's super close to Stockholm and its a very beautiful city

    • @neuroleptika
      @neuroleptika 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think he will like the vibe alot in Uppsala

    • @herrbonk3635
      @herrbonk3635 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, it's not. It was destroyed in the 1960s and 70s.

  • @puhistagram
    @puhistagram 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That is how Finns feel when they go to Stockholm, you were describing. 😅
    You live here, you are us and you were tourist in Sweden. Mars, mars, Yki testiin Chico.
    I was really waiting footage from Sweden, c'mon man ?!?
    When I lived in UK, I considered Swedish as people from home.
    Thanks for your nice video Chico.

    • @ChicoMuya
      @ChicoMuya  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The video about Sweden is up 😎

  • @Tyson-Vu
    @Tyson-Vu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I decided to learn Swedish from the beginning and have made a plan to move to Sweden. I feel that the Swedish culture and people are much more approachable and open comparing to Finnish culture

  • @BenjaminVestergaard
    @BenjaminVestergaard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My experience as a Dane transiting Helsinki was simply how few smiles I saw. I've been chatting with Finns online and they seem nice and friendly, but that's not the first hand impression you get from them in person.
    And Danes are already rather introvert, despite being called the extroverts of the nordics. Norwegians and Swedes are a little bit more introvert, but in Finland you meet a stone face even when you check in at a hotel.
    Anyway, if you haven't been there already, I can recommend a visit to the Netherlands, it's really the major cultural melting pot of northern Europe, I think you'll like the vibe and variety.. They're in no way the same introvert.

    • @vandalfinnicus1507
      @vandalfinnicus1507 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not true. Weird that happened to you. I think it's the lack of pretending. Finns aren't Germans and we don't like to pretend.

    • @stasacab
      @stasacab 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am Finnish and Denmark has been one of the few countries where people thought I was a native. Tourists even asked me to translate a text that was in Danish. Denmark was one of the most welcoming countries I have ever been to.

    • @hellmalm
      @hellmalm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with this but I’d like to add that the temperament of Swedes become more like the Finns the further north you go. Also this more pronounced the further from larger towns and cities you go. It’s kind of funny but I feel the opposite is true in Denmark. When have travel down into Europe by car have been the same in the countryside in France people are really extrovert and in cities like Paris they’re more introverted. The same goes for Germany and Austria. Love Denmark but I find it too expensive so I have made my visits short. 🇸🇪❤️🇩🇰

    • @JanneValkama
      @JanneValkama 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dutch are like danes but cooler

    • @torgeirgimmingsrud2439
      @torgeirgimmingsrud2439 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hellmalmThe difference between temperament in the north of Sweden and the north of Norway is interesting. Perhaps explainable as the difference between the inland and a big ocean coastal culture.
      What many foreigners don't get, is that you have to go all the way to Italy (or Ireland which is another exception in the north of Europe) to find cultures as extrovert as the fisherman culture of the northern Atlantic.

  • @flingan7512
    @flingan7512 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:45. Hello from a Swede. As a Swede, I fully understand what you are saying. I myself live in the countryside, one of Sweden's smallest municipalities. I myself am probably a good distance from the usual standard. I love meeting new people and learning new things. because I think we Swedes can be too rigid and boring.
    But the social standard has to do with the older times before people moved into town. Because in the countryside you didn't have neighbors that close and had to fend for yourself. so because you would manage yourself and not disturb others. then to meet people, it must be very well planned. So when cities grew more and more, our way with in to the city followed.
    Then Stockholmers are the loneliest people you can meet in Sweden. Many live in the city but many are very lonely. It was something they looked up and the Stockholmers came up high on the list then. Does not apply to all but it is an example :)
    Fun fact is that we Swedes are a singing people. I'm not one to sing. but one of our most popular TV programs is Allsång på skansen. Allsång = Sing-along

  • @E-jit
    @E-jit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Finland is our quiet, drunk best friend 🤣. Keep in mind that Stockholm is almost twice as populous as Helsinki so maybe that’s why it seems more busy 😊

    • @dennislindqvist1265
      @dennislindqvist1265 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Alcohol consumption has actually decreased drastically in recent years. Finland used to be a war-torn and poor country with a lot of PTSD.

    • @E-jit
      @E-jit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dennislindqvist1265 It’s just a joke stereotype, alcohol consumption has gone down here too 😊

  • @Flokarl1
    @Flokarl1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, even for Swedes its really ,really to connect and to find new friens....so its 100% true. But not only for immigrants or foreigners ...its actually the same for all!
    Swedes has a habit of stick to their group ....many times it has been the same group of friends since the childhood.

  • @larrywave
    @larrywave 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Maybe you should visit Göteborg and Umeå next time you go to sweden to get a balanced view 😄👍

    • @herrbonk3635
      @herrbonk3635 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Umeå??? Why in the world?
      Because it's so ugly?

    • @larrywave
      @larrywave 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@herrbonk3635 because its easy to go from vasa finland

  • @jonasmagnusson2099
    @jonasmagnusson2099 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You have to come back to Stockholm in juli! 🇸🇪👏🙏👍

    • @puhistagram
      @puhistagram 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have to come to Finland on "midsommar" 😂

  • @andersgranstrom7128
    @andersgranstrom7128 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Superinteresting, thank you! 🙂

  • @neuroleptika
    @neuroleptika 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Go to Uppsala in summer during Valborg, please😂

    • @ChicoMuya
      @ChicoMuya  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like a plan!

  • @precioustongogara2454
    @precioustongogara2454 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes they are friendly sure even Denmark people they always help me, l met someone people that even take me near where l was going.

  • @WeirdlyServed
    @WeirdlyServed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    banger vid fellow finnish man

  • @cassio2999
    @cassio2999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YES YOU ARE TRIPPING ALL THE TIME

  • @Anis-g8x
    @Anis-g8x 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely agree with you.silence is valuable gem .it make miracles

    • @ChicoMuya
      @ChicoMuya  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup!!

  • @That_kind_of_orc
    @That_kind_of_orc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now that you visited Stockholm which one you like more Finland or Sweden?

    • @ulricaandrae4381
      @ulricaandrae4381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sweden is more than Stockholm 😳

    • @That_kind_of_orc
      @That_kind_of_orc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ulricaandrae4381 no way bruh

  • @valveillen
    @valveillen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i used to want to move to sweden from finland but i dont, know, some of the attitutes ive received and heard, id rather move to norway, denmark or iceland. at least there'd be less prejudice against finns.. 😢 and yes i get it, we're reserved as fuck compared to more extroverted countries. japanese are also reserved people yet nobody thinks thats a bad thing.

  • @flingan7512
    @flingan7512 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:08 It has become so expensive that many elderly people who are pensioners have become homeless :(

  • @pahis1248
    @pahis1248 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sweden is old class society. that´s that. Another thing as I live in Turku/Åbo. nice place to visit.

  • @danvernier198
    @danvernier198 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People told you that there are areas where they don't speak Swedish because it flatters them to think that their problems are due to someone else being bad. Go to those areas, itll will only take you a quarter of an hour or so. Just go there and see how much they "don't speak Swedish"...
    The people who say that they don't speak Swedish are simply failed individuals who want to excuse the fact that they can't live up to their own expectations of success by blaming it on others. They 100% do speak Swedish in these areas, of course they also have elevated levels of unemployment and subsequently criminality because raising kids well is rather obviously harder when you're forced uproot your life and adapt to a new culture and economic system.

    • @olsa76
      @olsa76 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I accompanied my Arab friend to Rinkeby, because he wanted to visit a halal shop he had heard about. Between us we knew Swedish, English and Arabic and we stood in the square and stopped people to ask for directions to the store. It took over 20 minutes before we found someone who understood what we were saying.

    • @danvernier198
      @danvernier198 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@olsa76 sounds as if you're just really bad at communicating.

  • @essence77644
    @essence77644 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are on calls because there are jobs 😉

  • @h06nort
    @h06nort 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its hard even for swedes, people born here! Not just for immigrants. But I think people have much better experience of swedes in guthenburg or malmo!! I woundnt recommend stockholm, because of how we as people in general differ😅 Because we do in general, depending on where in sweden you are

    • @ChicoMuya
      @ChicoMuya  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh interesting! 😂

  • @Peo_Sahlin
    @Peo_Sahlin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know, Finland is NOT a part of Scandinavia, just Sweden, Denmark and Norway.

    • @ChicoMuya
      @ChicoMuya  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, don’t worry, I know 😅

  • @ingvartorma9789
    @ingvartorma9789 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Then you mentioned how beautiful Swedish women are BUT are not at all easy to deal with but Swedish women are mean to other Swedish women, to men and they hate women from other countries and feel threatened, so they invent lies. That I speak the truth about Swedish women is easy to find out. Because Sweden has the most single women in the whole world, who live and live alone than the rest of the world. And this precisely because of how they are. Then when you said that Swedes don't like Finland, it's only Stockholmers who don't like Finland. In my city Kiruna, there are many people who have family and ties to Finland, and so it is with the whole of Norrbotten. This is because when Finland ended up in the Finnish Winter War against Russia, many children were brought from northern Finland to northern Sweden. Up here, the Viennese have a completely different view of Finland and many up here have Finnish as their second language.

  • @petereriksson7166
    @petereriksson7166 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enemies talk shit

  • @stiglarsson8405
    @stiglarsson8405 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you at first.. Stockholm is my capital city.. it is like it is, dont blame them!
    And then to your english speaking skills.. you can go for being an US "Afroamercan", dont try that becuse we dont reconise this.. all americans is the same, and they have different skin colors/hair, what ever!
    In anycase, "Södermalm" is the hipster area/middle class area/Östermalm and Stureplan is the upper class area!
    And on top of this.. there is other areas, in the moste parts a mix between rent or home owner assocition homes!
    Next time take a walk in our hoods, you can probably meet people there with darker skin collor, frome real Africa or Irak/syria!
    Its a shame, but altso a problem to make them to integrate, its hard-- they dont even speak english!

  • @tobiasskane264
    @tobiasskane264 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Stockholm is swedens NY. Everybody wants to be more then they are. Thinking this is capitol of sweden. Blähhh People in stockholm is so Arrogant and self-absorbed. You cannot compare Finland and Sweden without understanding the history between the countries.

  • @stasacab
    @stasacab 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Swedes have a long history of oppressing their language minorities, so perhaps they have become more cautious in demanding knowledge of Swedish. People in Tornio valley have stories to tell.

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      When are you going to let it go?

  • @vandalfinnicus1507
    @vandalfinnicus1507 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chico, I'm not sure you're aware that Finns are a small ethnic minority, that was enslaved by the Swedish empire for 600 years. This slavery wasn't similar to the slavery of west Africans in the US and in colonies, but more in the style of "when needed". The racism continued long after that, and still in the 1970's, in Sweden, when lots of immigrants from Finland were going over; they'd say "don't let those forest people into Sweden, they're all alkies and criminals". Similar treatment that the Irish got in Britain. Then, thank god, some dark skinned people turned up, and the white lesser peoples kind of lost our spotlight. There's a kind of brotherhood between Finns and Irish.

    • @sampohonkala4195
      @sampohonkala4195 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Obviously you have never studied Finnish history. And sorry to say, a lot of alcoholics from Finland really made the reputation in Stockholm in the 60's and 70's. You can hardly blame the Swedes.

    • @FI-Gamer
      @FI-Gamer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sampohonkala4195 You are right that the Finns themselves caused their reputation, in the same way as the Somalis today

    • @senchaholic
      @senchaholic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both Finland and Denmark, the other country which is stereotyped as drinking a lot, both consume more alcohol per person than Sweden. So it has some truth in it.

    • @shar3066
      @shar3066 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eh? I do know personally a lot of older people who opened their homes up for Finnish refugees during ww2 and not once did I hear they were treated like lesser people. I'm so sick of hearing the bitching from Finns when our people opened their homes and hearts, who went to fight voluntarily for finland when they didn't need to.

    • @sampohonkala4195
      @sampohonkala4195 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shar3066 The reason for that has little or nothing to do with Swedes, but the language battle between the Finnish and Swedish speakers of Finland during the late 1800's and early 1900's. After Finnish was made an official language in 1863 the Swedish speakers gradually lost their leading position in the country and were fighting for their identity in a country where they formed only a small minority. That battle became rather ugly on both sides and especially some uneducated Finnish speaking nationalists somehow would like to keep the battle up.