Thunder Nova 24 Vs. Aeon Mira Pro 7 at the "Aeon Experience" See the BEST CO2 Laser Engraver

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  • See the test results including speed and smoke removal from the laser bed on the Thunder Nova 24 and the Aeon Mira 7. This will show you the difference in the machines ease of set up and overall commercial viability.
    On Feb 03, 2023 well after this video was done I became a partner with Aeon. The details of what a partner "is" is posted at their website. Here is the disclosure that will go on all videos I do where I mention Aeon.
    This is George's Partner link for Aeon please be aware that George could earn a small commission if you use this link. It is not necessary to use this link or mention George when purchasing from Aeon, but it is a nice way to support this channel.
    aeonlaser.us/contact?ref=GEOR...
    Here are the promised links and e mail address in order.
    Anca's Facebook Page / 726808387882783
    Elisha Spector's e mail address at Aeon elisha@engravingmachinesplus.com
    Https://Aeonlaser.us
    Https://Thunderlaserusa.com
    George Kenner's e mail address G.Kenner @ Yahoo.com
    George's Facebook Group "Laser Freedom" / 647931323439697
    George's Amazon Influencer store where you can see all the things in his shop.
    Https://Amazon.com/shop/georgekenner
    ****Please note that the files for the comparison at the end defaulted to the max speed for each machine. There is going to be a follow up video on this issue as the Head Size and speed can effect the total useable area for any machine. The HEAD has to be able to stop!***

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  • @conniefrahm1984
    @conniefrahm1984 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have had my Mira 7 for 2 years now and love it! My Nova 10 should arrive next week!!!

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Connie don't tell me that..... I am so wanting a Aeon NOVA....lol.. but I only do the HOBBY thing.. I don't sell anything. I am trying not to spend the inheritance... Oh well... only live once... Going to visit friend in Florida in Mid July maybe I end up at Aeon.. just saying.

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very Cool.... I have wanted a Super Nova for some time now.

  • @TheRoadtoGonzo
    @TheRoadtoGonzo ปีที่แล้ว +14

    With respect, I think your commentary has some shortcomings. The urban sprawl of the exterior parts outside the Nova is a fact, but so is the ability to pick up the compressor and change it, similarly swapping the chiller. I was told by Aeons CEO himself that the passive cooling in the Mira is limited and I have seen commercial shops have to take the internal cooler out and run in external cooling, similarly, others have had to swap the weak extraction system. You really had a shortcoming in not revealing the detailed pricing; the Thunder ships for free, but when I got a quote for that $7995 Mira 7 it came out at $9,074.68 shipped to my door, that's way to much for a 60W laser, I can get a 130W laser up in the 10k price range. The Z depth on the Mira is also a massive limitation, so is the focusing system. Pluses on the Mira, I cannot fault their current marketing scheme and apparent customer engagement. I feel like Thunder is there for you and has responsive support, but don't seem to have an army of people being thrown at pandering you like Aeon. Trolling the Nova FB Support group I saw way more unhappy customers than in Thunders FB community. I would encourage you to go and talk to the lady from Pate Ranch about her experiences running a business at scale with Aeon and Thunder and watch her video comparing the larger models in a working environment. I have the Nova 24, if you want me to do a non-bias real life quoted price and spec comparison or set of material tests with you I'd be happy to. Very much enjoying your channel, thank you once again for sharing.

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will not remove this that is not my style, I believe everyone should have the opportunity to voice their opinions. Please join me on my Facebook page Laser Freedom and share your opinion of this video. NOW having said that I was not a sponsored reviewer by AEON I paid for my entire trip to "The Experience Twice. Your OPINIONS are not supported by a trip to review all of the machines. I feel if you had done that you would feel differently. I did not put all the negatives of the Thunder Nova into this video and there were many more, trust me. The SPEED issue is REAL as is Maximum Speed on the machines. I WILL NOTE... you have stated you have /own the Nova 24 so agreeing with my conclusion that the Aeon is the best will of course be contrary to the decision to mad to spend thousands on the Thunder Nova 24. I SAY CLEARLY do not "TRUST ME" go see for yourself.

    • @TheRoadtoGonzo
      @TheRoadtoGonzo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeorgeKennerLaser be happy to join you there George and enjoying your channel very much.

    • @josepalacios81
      @josepalacios81 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with you this review seem very bias. I’ve seen the lady from pate ranch too very informational. I just wish reviews would be more honest.

  • @victoriasaunders2342
    @victoriasaunders2342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    appreciate the efforts that were taken to make it

  • @elohimembroidery
    @elohimembroidery 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you George. Your videos helped convince me to buy a Mira 7 myself. Finalized the paperwork today!

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Congrats... so happy for you, I am on my way to Florida in a few hours and am stopping at Aeon. They has some things i am going to update.

  • @anca-elenawetegrove6211
    @anca-elenawetegrove6211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your continuous support. And thank you for being part of The Maker Space you are a great member.

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      It was real laser pros like you that exposed me to Aeon. Everyone should follow you, you have far more laser experience that I do.

  • @mindygunter3119
    @mindygunter3119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an excellent video!! Thank you for explaining it so well!

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have another review video that is on the way, and it discusses things like AIR FLOW.... I think it will be epic. Thank you so much for the very nice comment. Cheers.

  • @rodneymaker6689
    @rodneymaker6689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You George for the great info. I'm waiting for my Mira7 which is at stage 9 in Florida

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are going to love it.... I am 100% sure we both purchased the right machine.

  • @billknox8107
    @billknox8107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This overall video was just so dope

  • @HarrisonIvaM
    @HarrisonIvaM ปีที่แล้ว

    this was very sweet of you to share such an amazing video with us

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it... Hope you get the right tool for your jobs.

  • @johnshipps441
    @johnshipps441 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm looking at buying a laser and for some reason a video like this is hard to find! This was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for putting the work in. New sub here.

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you for the nice comment... if you even need me feel free to e mail me... I will never consider myself and expert but I have sorta figured my way around the hobby / professional laser field... I just did a video on the Aeon Super Nova and it exposes some interesting facts about the higher end RF and Glass Co2 market. Cheers! Get involved you will love it.

  • @augustinecrooks6250
    @augustinecrooks6250 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I love all your videos

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you ... I try not to disappoint the people who give me their time .

  • @kensutton174
    @kensutton174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW! if your not an affiliate already you should be! Aeon would be lucky to have you! Great video I learned a lot! Keep em' coming!

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I am not an Affiliate / Partner, everything I have done I paid for, airfare, hotels and full price for my laser. What I have found is that the "partners" are more like friends that share with each others and are building nice businesses. People follow people and if they see what your using and its good they will follow. Me, I am a little more cautious. I want to see things work. The Head Size in my opinion creates more speed and thus a faster machine. That is going to rock some people, but the video is right there and people can take their own files and test them. Who else buys all the machines, puts them in one place so you can test them... NO ONE!. Just today (first 4 hours of this video) 3 Aeon partners reached out to me asking me to join. They are wearing me down.

    • @kensutton174
      @kensutton174 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeorgeKennerLaser Hang in there brother! You are doing a service to this community that I for one greatly appreciate! (and I know there are many more like me)! Keep em' coming!

  • @neilwebster9374
    @neilwebster9374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi George I'm UK based and just got a Mira 7! Sure wish the support in the UK was as good as what you are getting total wilderness here. Still I guess that makes me a ground breaker! Looking forward to more of your content.

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have hear that Aeon LASER US is by far the best of the worldwide distributors. They seem to set the standard for the entire industry in customer service.

  • @lisahorton6857
    @lisahorton6857 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just can't wait for another video to upload

  • @safirarodriguez315
    @safirarodriguez315 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, after reading the thread 😳. I must say thank you. I will just take a deep breath and purchase a Trotec.

  • @myrtlejones3281
    @myrtlejones3281 ปีที่แล้ว

    You seriously blew my mind with this video

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      If it can help someone get the right tool for the JOB.. I am happy with the result.

  • @jakelotter9130
    @jakelotter9130 ปีที่แล้ว

    The plug and play is definitely a commodity that people would appreciate. I for one like to keep these systems seperate like in the thunder, because who knows when one of those crucial peices fail? And they will, eventually. I do agree with you with the head design, I wish it was lighter on the thunder. I have operated a Gravograph laser and that head was incredibly small.

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      Each one of the system in the Mira are what I would call "component" pieces. If you remove the chiller it slides right out. It would be and easy fix. But you hit the big point the size of the head. Smaller head faster machine. I am about to do a 6 month review on my machines. Thank you for the thoughtful comment , I have more videos on this I am in the process of shooting right now. CHEERS BRO!

    • @jakelotter9130
      @jakelotter9130 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@GeorgeKennerLaser That is very interesting. I'd really be interested in a video demonstrating this. I'll have to check out Aeon's manuals to see how that all works. If the parts are readily replaceable I will definitely be adding the Nova10 to my wish list. Thanks! I should also add my #1 reason for going with the Thunder was their upfront support with using antifreeze in their lasers with full warranty support was paramount as I live in a cold climate in an unheated shop.

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakelotter9130 That is so funny... meaning the antifreeze. I wish I could post a picture here as Aeon also charges the machines with antifreeze. And as for SUPPPORT, Aeon will send someone to your house if the machine brakes down in the warranty period and the machine can not be fixed with standard support. I strongly suggest a visit to the Aeon Experience. Many of the competitors machines are their to compare. If you go look in my Facebook group Laser Freedom I will post a picture of the antifreeze pump at Aeon.

  • @TK-rx5dp
    @TK-rx5dp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great thorough comparison of the two machines. You made it clear which one would be the logical choice.

  • @Ryan82288
    @Ryan82288 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The plug and play is definitively a must! I’m kind of tired of buying diodes and piecing everything together 😅

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      wait for my next video.. it will crack you up... some of these companies do not listen to what they are saying.

  • @angrygaragemechanic
    @angrygaragemechanic ปีที่แล้ว

    On average, how long of a waiting process can a person expect from purchasing to actually receiving the Aeon lasers.

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mine was a few months but I have heard less from some people. The Backlog that existed in all laser companies seems to have softened. The model you want could have a bearing. If you want an Aeon write to sales, they are very friendly... NO PRESSURE type guys.

    • @angrygaragemechanic
      @angrygaragemechanic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeorgeKennerLaser okay I'll email them and see 👍

  • @rcamoonpie648
    @rcamoonpie648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolute no brainer on this purchase!
    In the doghouse I go!

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't Do it... angry wife after me is not a good thing... 🤣

    • @rcamoonpie648
      @rcamoonpie648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeorgeKennerLaser Lol
      Too late you implanted this thought 🤓

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rcamoonpie648 Ok I will take my medicine..... I love my Mira...

  • @mymagicsigns
    @mymagicsigns 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do they have any generic Chinese machines there?

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As you call them "generic" like the red or blue from Amazon , they did not have any of those when I visited.

  • @Kurutzkraft
    @Kurutzkraft 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have to use wifi? I don’t want to use work.

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No you do not have to used Wifi on on a Mira it has a USB connection also. But the Wifi is very easy to use, and very easy to set up. thank you for the question.

  • @HeidiCunningham-gx7vu
    @HeidiCunningham-gx7vu 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What’s the dimensions of the Mira 7 please x

    • @GeorgeKennerLaser
      @GeorgeKennerLaser  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Heidi sorry for the late response, I have been traveling and did not see this message. I would check with Elisha Spector at Aeon as I think the size may have changed a little bit with the REDLINE. elisha@engravingmachinesplus.com

    • @HeidiCunningham-gx7vu
      @HeidiCunningham-gx7vu 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GeorgeKennerLaser thank you x

  • @bravodude2398
    @bravodude2398 หลายเดือนก่อน

    would like to see a video diss how bad omtech is , pure junk , stay away