It doesn't matter if it's a dam kids movie adults and any age watch it and some of us who have common sense actually look at it seriously and realize most of it doesn't make sense
I just assumed that every one has those emotions but “botttled up” until they come out situationally. On a day to day basis, we have the main 5 that regulate us. During puberty those sub-emotions to our main ones are more prominent.
Well, a reasonable claim could be that some of these emotions are not actually present in the mines of others at the time. My evidence from the first movie is that Riley runs away from home and doesn't answer her parents' phone calls. This leads to some anxiety and at the same time anxiety among the parents, but we do not see that it has not previously been shown in the minds of the parents themselves. While you could argue that it's still a foregone conclusion if the new emotions shown in Inside Out 2 still exist in the first film, the father's anxiety really comes out of nowhere when something goes wrong, so it could be an act , which the new emotions come when something happens. But long story short, since it's just a movie, I don't even know¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tbh I think they tried to say that just to try and piece it all together for us. Originally I don’t think they ever thought it was gonna get as much fame as it did and in turn they never planned to make a second movie
For the people saying that those emotions only exist as a teenager: 1. I don't think they stop existing when we mature, it's more like we can control them better. 2. We see inside the mind of a teenager in Inside Out 1, and they are very anxiety-stricken on the inside about not being "cool" enough, and there were still just the five we see.
No. They were frightened to not fit in and be cool. The beginning of anxiety is fear. If you can't control your fear enough, anxiety happens. So it makes perfect sense, people just want to act like they're smart.
Dude, new ideas are kind of expected in a sequel. Not all of the ideas have to follow with something the original movie set up. The sequel was creative as hell, I loved it.
The best part is the movie didn't just act like the first movie doesn't exists. It's a true sequel that just expands on the original idea. Dude was just upset that new characters were introduced? But these new emotions make sense to not have as a kid or at least not have them be a huge part. At the end of the sequel the end scene shows her dad has Anxiety still, he was just hidden and didn't have a dedicated seat. This is why people need to wait until they've experienced something to judge.
Thats because well adjusted adults arent supposed to be controlled by embaressment, envy, or amxiety. They are supposed to not have a seat at the table
i have a feeling they have their own spots in the main hub. you can see each of them coming out of random doors or cevices or even other things, possibly meaning they used to only cue a very specifc amount of times, but probably because of hormones theyre now being moved to the main hub, and now its pretty cramped and weird, thus giving the awkwardness of puberty a character in itself
considering the fact that the parents have curtains in their minds shows they’ve learned to control their other emotions which is proven when in the second movie, anxiety in the fathers mind pops out for just a second before the dad ignores it
I saw the movie there is a video game character. It is so funny and the green girl falls in love with him, and he is really funny the way he rolls and jumps.😂💀
Yes it doesnt makes sense but it is also stupid to judge the movie that hasnt come out yet maybe new emotions have a another headquarter or they only show up during teenage years or something
In one of the trailers we see that Riley's dad indeed has Anxiety, but I think they appear only in specific situations, in teen years ones emotions can get out of hand and experience anxiety way more often, when you finally grow up your emotions become a bit more stable.
If they only show up during teen years and that’s the reason I will be very upset because saying adults don’t have anxiety and enui two things that play a big role in mental health would be a bad look for Pixar
It is only in your teenage years that you actually experience all those emotions that Riley is experiencing so when she is older she will go back to the main five.
bro said they pretended the first movie didn’t exist- did your whole childhood become obsolete because you became more self-aware? no, gaining new emotions doesn’t cancel out the whole first movie. this was an amazing movie that i think was executed very well. it was so real to me that it brought up memories i forgot about from my old painful friendships. idk maybe that’s just me.
There's a simple explanation for this. The new emotions introduced in the second movie weren't relevant to the plot of the first movie, so to fully design and animate them (and hire voice actors) for a few minor scenes in the heads of the supporting and tertiary characters would be a waste of time and resources. So it's safe to assume that they are present in the heads of the other characters, just out of shot.
Exactly. Or they could not be there because they are temporary. Adults may lose those new emotions, but hey. I get anxiety and I'm an adult, so I can say it depends on the person.
@@paradoxine6287 I wouldn't even say that they're temporary. All emotions exist inside everyone, it's the person's personality that determines which emotions take front and centre, and which get sidelined. The evidence is in the first Movie. With Joy being the centre stage of Riley's mind, Sadness being centre stage of the Mother's mind, and Anger being centre stage of the Dad's mind. All 3 of them had all 5 emotions (relevant to the first movie), but it was clear which ones were more dominant in their minds. Anyone can experience Anxiety, Ennui, Embarrassment, or Envy... It just takes a very specific situation for it to occur. Riley is young and has just started a new life in San Fran, so Anxiety is bound to set in, but for the parents, they've probably moved places several times in their life, so Anxiety will barely be a problem in this kind of situation.
Yeah, I think these are just the emotions that stay in the very back of our minds. Things that sorta just creep up on you. You don't always know you are envious of another, anxiety, embarrassment, and Ennui just appear out if nowhere too. Anxiety did say she is a big fan, so this theory wouldn't be off.
It's not just that we explicitly see like a dozen people's minds and they ALL have the core five in the original movie - it's also like we're pretending the climax of the first movie literally didn't exist. The ENTIRE POINT of the first movie is that Riley, as a child, thinks and feels in simple terms, and her "default" state is pure joy. She essentially sees the other emotions, especially Sadness, as obstacles in the way of Joy, or brief stepping stones back to the default of Joy (hence why Joy is so controlling.) The end of the film is Riley maturing and feeling and understanding more complex emotions - represented my memories that are no longer a single simple color, but combinations of colors. She accepts not only that she can have Core Memories other than Joyful ones, but that some memories can be more than one emotion. Would all these "new" emotions introduced in the 2nd film not fall under the umbrella of these complex combinations of emotions?? Fear and anxiety? Disgust and envy? Sadness and Ennui?
Fear and anxiety basically being the SAME bloody thing really does frustrate me. You already covered these emotions, you managed to have these five being the umbrella for the others as well. There's a reason there weren't anymore, why they were cut, because they didn't need them in the movie.
And even then the main 5 getting KICKED OUT for not being needed Doesn’t make sense. Anxiety exists because fear exists. Saying you don’t need it despite the fact that it’s the reason you exist doesn’t track.
@@MoonPhantom And the fact the film tries to frame it as "Fear protects Riley from the stuff she can see while anxiety protects her from the stuff she can't see (She plans for the future)". When in the first movie we explicitly see fear plan for the future when he makes that big stack of possibilities for the first day of school so anxiety is literally so redundant. Would've preferred if anxiety was like some sort of parasite rather than an actual emotion meant to be shown as Healthy
@@MoonPhantom im nervous about this movie being good too but take this from someone with an anxiety disorder, they are literally not the same thing. fear is a response to something happening and anxiety is the anticipation of something that could or is about to happen... and in the end, distinct emotions. it doesn't matter if it might come from the same place or brain function irl because having anxiety as a different character will be more in tune with people's experiences and how they talk about stuff like this
@@MoonPhantomthey're not the same though. Fear can be a variety of things but anxiety is... anxiety. When I'm anxious I'm not scared, I'm stressed and worried.
the movie came out 10 years ago, im pretty sure the writers werent even thinking of making a second movie a decade later, the movies aim is to show that when you grow up, you go through these new, confusing emotions. and the movie is BOMB
Riley is a teenager so those new emotions are showing up a lot more now but when she gets older they will come and go because she’s not going to be a teenager anymore just like her parents where we saw the dad’s anxiety come. It literally shows in the first movie as she grew up more emotions started showing up
That still doesn't make sense because all of the emotions they show now are emotions children also have. Kids have anxiety and envy and boredom. The real reason is that this is stuff for the plot. There's no real reason, there's nothing big behind it meaning-wise, it's just there for the plot of an animated movie.
It shows us in later trailers that emotions can get bottled. That’s probably how they’re making up for the plot hole. Certain emotions aren’t shown because they become“suppressed”.
Oh, yeah! Before that nice concept of suppressed emotions that Inside out 2 gave, I wonder how people think how the original film suppresses certain emotions and some have hilarious takes like tying them up to a wall.
Yep, and it's perfectly acceptable to assume that the emotions of the characters in the credits also happened to be bottled, too, considering their internal strife (the exhaustion in keeping up the facade of being popular, the strain of being a teacher, etc)
I feel ya but in one of the trailers it pops into the dads head and we see the main emotions sitting there then anxiety pops out from under the desk so they may be present in everyone they’re just not in control
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754yesnt, it really depends on HOW its used. Plot twists or reveals can also be retcons if they werent originally planned for but fit well enough. But not all plot twists or reveals are retcons. Saying all retcons are bad is just kinda... well biased.
@@dylansams4064 I didn't claim that all retcons are bad. I claimed that having retcons in the story is a bad thing. Either the retcon itself damages the story, or the story got damaged somewhere else requiring the retcon to fix it. Also, biased towards what?
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754it's subjective, both movies are fine, the lore doesn't exist it's literally an abstraction inside a kids head, new emotion fairies go pbttft
I think as she grows up, and becomes more emotionally stable, the emotions will merge back into the original five. Representing the emotional struggles of puberty.
@@PoliteSir Ah. I hadn’t seen that. Idk then. Maybe in adults they’re not always in head quarters and just pop up now and again but in teens they’re always there?
This honestly is an option Disney can go with. They probably don’t even have it planned this way lol I wouldn’t be surprised if they had loose ends but they sure could use this
i think something that's possible is that as we age, those new emotions start to merge into the 5 core emotions. Emotions like envy can be a mixture of rage and disgust. Anxiety could be a mixture of fear and sadness. As teenagers we can't control our emotions that well and they take control on their own.
Yeah but the whole point of the first movie is that the emotions work together to create those emotions and memories. This is best exemplified when joy and sadness create a bittersweet memory. An envious memory would just be the combination of, probably, fear and rage. It undercuts the whole system of core emotions.
@@BobGump-vq2jp yeah but I feel like the first movie was kinda just saying that kids can't really describe the more complicated emotions like anxiety, embarrassment, etc, and the mixing of emotions in the first movie like happiness and sadness comes to someone as young as Riley using the core emotions to explain how she feels instead of the new, more complicated emotions that we are introduced to when she gets older, to show she now knows that there are more complicated feelings that can be used to describe how she feels...sorry for the yapping btw
@@BobGump-vq2jpthe way I see it, is that when you are a child as well as an adult the emotion reactions are simple as you can fully understand/manage and comprehend your emotions once you an adult. As a child your emotions are simple and you express them simply, therefore the reason as a child and an adult your emotions are the core 5. While you are an adolescent those emotions are in a chaotic whirlwind and it rips them apart into subcategories of emotions.
@@aminulhussain2277 no that was a genuine question how does boredem correlate with sadness at all im bored enough to reply to your comment but im not sad
this guy sounds so fun to be friends with (edit: yall need to chill. anxiety is absolutely an emotion and this is coming from someone WITH ANXIETY. chill.)
in a trailer it shows that her dad has anxiety, but it just pops up from under the table, doesn’t have a seat there so the other emotions probably just stay in the background in other people’s heads
Maybe they're more prevalent in teenagers and take the backseat again when they get to adulthood or something. Also maybe more anxious or easily embarrassed people have that as a extra core emotion.
Plus, the new emotions are so easily encompassed in the core five. Anxiety = Fear Embarrassment = Disgust Ennui = Sadness The movie could easily be the core emotions fumbling with the complex new control panel, something going wrong, and them getting "scattered" all over the place, thus causing the chaotic puberty symptoms in Riley.
Exactly this. I was thinking of them like mixes of the other emotions. Anxiety is mostly fear but with a hint of disgust (of perceived failure that causes it to linger), embarrassment mostly disgust but with a hint of fear (of what others think). Envy is easily anger, disgust, perhaps a bit of sadness as well? Ennui... I'm not really clear on what it is people have said boredom sort of?... Dispondance is what I see looking at the character, which makes me more inclined to think of when the console went grey, but not as serious, because it seems to be a feeling of being disconnected from the world.
Im a teenager, I didn’t have all these emotions UNTIL my teenage years. That’s why we don’t see them early on, as a kid, everything seems magical and easy, once we get older, these complex emotions hit us and we don’t know how to handle it. That’s where the anxiety, embarrassment, and the others come in. Once you’re an adult, you’re more than likely to not experience these that strongly, as you’ve worked it out, but as a teenager you don’t know that. Edit: for clarification, I did indeed experience envy and embarrassment and boredom, but it wasn’t that present until I was in my teen years. My childhood was for the most part really good, I had little to no trauma until I reached 12-13 years old. Obviously as an adult you will experience these too, but usually by then, life has sorted out and managing all these isn’t much of an issue if you have healthy coping skills.
fair, but i experienced anxiety and embarrassment as a kid. it took longer to properly identify them, but i definitely experienced them as early as 5-7 years old. maybe it's just the bad childhood, but riley had a great childhood so it makes sense for her not to develop these emotions until puberty.
Not even, cause the movie brings up the idea of suppressed emotions. So these adults or teens could easily just try to bottle up those emotions like how our main 5 were in that one teaser.
Maybe Riley's parents learned to suppress their other emotions? I mean, most parents would want to suppress their emotions like anxiety or envy because they fear that showing these kinds of emotions in front of their children might result in them thinking that they made a mistake or they're the reason why their parents are unhappy.
For everyone saying that these are teenage emotions and that they'll fade away or whatever when she gets older, you do realise that adults can be embaressed. Adults can get anxious. They don't just lose the ability to feel these emotions and you don't just suddenly gain them when you turn 12 either. Hell, I remember being embaressed by things way before then. What happened is that, for whatever reason, they desperately wanted anxiety to be its own character. Pretty much all of the new emotions are just subsets of the existing ones. The ending of inside out 1 showed that life is often a mix of emotions. That was the whole point. Riley's first mixed memory was of happiness and saddness, the two emotions that are the most opposite. And then we see that many of her new core memories are mixed of emotions. What makes infinitely more sence is her gaining new personality islands, not new fucking emotions.
TH-camrs like this r the reason why movies get bad reviews. Actually there r more islands and family Island is very small which makes so much sense since when u enter teenage hood, most of time u prioritise friends over parents. And plus the emotions r there in the parents mind too. And actually anxiety made a comment abt seeing Riley's moments which were supposed to be moments in inside out 1. So those 5 emotions might hv stayed somewhere in headquarters. I gain all the information from the clips they released
Not only that, but they also don't just appear when you are older. You can still feel anxious and embarrassed as a child. Idk why people are acting like children don't have any worries or negative thoughts, especially children growing in different environments
i’ll do you one better: i am telling you that i don’t understand the concept. why would they not be present in other people’s minds? i can’t imagine the mind of an adult who’s just moved across the country and had their daughter run away from home wouldn’t have anxiety, even if it’s not a main emotion. maybe i’m not seeing something but it seems like an oversight to me
Not really. I watched and not going to say much but it shows anxiety of mom and dad in the credits. I think there more suppressed when you get older but still there.
Yeah, Disney and Pixar have been writing sequels that throw out the point of the first movie for years. Frozen 1 was about how Elsa belonged in Arendelle even though she had ice powers. Frozen 2 was about how she didn't belong in Arendelle. Wreck it Ralph was all, "Don't go turbo! Stay in your game!" and the sequel was like, "If Vanellope wants to leave her game, you have to let her go."
i agree with you ralph breaks the internet was a train wreck but elsa has always been different from the rest of her kingdom not just because of her powers. does it not make sense to make a sequel exploring her purpose and more importantly asking the big question: why the hell does she have ice powers??
@@fnafnerd8783wanna know the worst part? Else was originally gonna be the villain in Frozen, look at early concept art for Elsa and type in villain next to her name and see what you get.
Wait, What? I thought wreck it Ralph is about the importance of accepting others regardless how the rest of society judges them lol sure we see the scene of sonic saying don't leave your game but that's cause it's a warning cause if they die in a different game they won't be coming back
@@rakano3733 that is the message of the film and i guess you can go outside your game buts heavily discouraged besides at the end of the first movie venelope is so happy and the reason they aren’t in the second is just the very generic “oh it’s getting boring” it’s lazy and it doesn’t make sense pac-man has been doing this for forty years and he doesn’t complain. venelope leaving is almost like ralph leaving she’s the most popular racer sure her game can function without her but it can loose player base with her gone risking the game being unplugged.
Especially since at the end of the first one, we see that the core emotions combine to make new ones, like how joy and sadness combined to make a nostalgic emotion
I don’t think joy and sadness combined to make nostalgia. It was more a bittersweet memory. Like you were happy at the time but sad that it’s over. Nostalgia doesn’t have to necessarily be sad which is why it’s kind of its own emotion.
@@melissaherrera940 I think that's exactly what nostalgia is, actually. It's sadness or grief over the memory of previous happiness that is now lost to you. A longing for a time that can't be recaptured.
Anxiety seemed pretty relevant when that boy in the first film had the 'girl' alarm going off in his head. I'd imagine her parents were pretty anxious when she disappeared in the first film
@@sunlakestar2549 we saw Fear pull out a book of possible bad first days at school, so he's clearly anxious about things that arent even likely such as a meteor.
In the second movie the anxiety of Riley’s mom comes back out at one scene, which means those emotions are still there but aren’t controlling the person that much (they are probably controlling more during the puberty time)
Riley is a new teen in this movie. Idk if you remember, but new teens have CRAZY emotions and hormones. Adults tend to have those emotions in check and the main five would be the emotions we saw everyone else have. It makes sense lmao but also, I'm sure they'll explain it in the movie. Let's save our issues for when the movie actually comes out lmao
The thing is they don't have new emotions. Hormones cause the emotions that are already there to be more intense, which then makes it show more obviously that they are still children (ie operating with limited experience in processing these emotions, and being less affected by their intensity).
In one of the trailers the dad has anxiety but he only pops up BRIEFLY from under the control table, as is with adults that have more control over they’re emotions
Nah bro. Fear and anxiety are 2 different emotions. Just like envy and disgust. How can you want to be like someone and be disgusted with them?? That's jealousy not envy.
@@ha.6215I have seen the movie, and no spoilers here, but Anxiety acts like real anxiety. They worry about the future and only react to the present based on its effect on the future. While Fear acts more around current danger
Lol I was really worried about this happening as well but I watched the movie and thankfully they didn’t do that, like anxiety literally explains how she’s different than fear. Emotions are really complicated and so sometimes it seems like they are experiencing something like joy when it’s something different, for example when people nervous laugh or smile when they aren’t really happy. And this is also shown when Anxiety is making Riley mask. It’s not that some of the emotions replaced the others the whole plot is Anxiety gets carried away and worries about the more “simplified” emotions not being what Riley needs so she tries to take over and causes a chemical imbalance (in other words a disorder, and in the movie’s case I am pretty sure its Social Anxiety disorder) I went to watch the movie expecting to give it a 0/10 maybe a 2/10 at best but I ended up rating it a 9/10 because yea it’s not perfect and has some ploy holes but they really depicted the emotion Anxiety vs an anxiety disorder really well so I highly recommend checking it out even if you have low expectations
Horny would be like a cheerleader, amplifying the other core emotions. Joy when actually getting it on, Fear and Disgust when dealing with inhibitions, Anger when confronted with rivals, Sadness when rejected. Joy and Horny are best friends, but everyone else tends to get in the way, so Horny is usually trying to get them drunk so Horny can take the wheel.
|-|orny would be like a cheerleader, amplifying the other core emotions. Joy when actually getting it on, Fear and Disgust when dealing with inhibitions, Anger when confronted with rivals, Sadness when rejected. Joy and |-|orny are best friends, but everyone else tends to get in the way, so |-|orny is usually trying to get them drunk so |-|orny can take the wheel. (YT deleted my original comment so I had to do that)
kids who are growing up and some of them experiencing these new emotions like anxiety and stuff now have a movie that addresses the fact that growing up isn't easy and that must bring comfort to so many people. i personally don't think this movie has an "issue"
Well those emotions arent necessarily healthy so it would make sense that the older you are the more you mature and can contain/control those emotions so they come out less and are less prevalent
Aren't necessarily healthy? Unlike anger which can lead to anger issues if uncontrolled, or fear which can lead to paranoia or a phobia if too extreme? It does make sense that the older and more mature you get, you become better at controlling your own emotions, but I don't think it means feelings like anxiety, embarassment, envy or boredom dissappear. Since all of those emotions are very normal to have. The simplest explanation is Pixar chose to include only 5 main emotions for the first movie, not thinking about a sequel, and now they're doing a retcon to include more emotions that were left out🤣
@@jjam1025 that makes no sense riley would of felt envy seeing her frinds back home would of felt embarrassment after messing up the first day would depression would of made sense to be introduced during the idea scene and since depression can tend to be anger directed inward anger would really be the only one to have any amount of control most of the time since other emotions tend to be numbed or over shadowed by negative feelings
Im from the future and your point doesnt matter, the 2nd movie talks about this being a problem and makes it the plot of the movie, the world they made is changing
@@YouMissedAgain2024 Just a random reel. Why would I be upset that Mr. Explain it all didn't like a movie? Seems like the type that'd talk through it anyways.
Sure it does. Your DNA is a result of mixing the DNA of your parents. And yet you are a unique, distinct, and separate entity from your parents. On a different note. Obviously they added the new emotions so the movie would be new, interesting, and fresh (and more characters = more merch). Most people enjoyed the first movie, so it all depends on how well they develop the lore for the new emotions. After all, real people have many more than 5 emotions and can experience them all in different ways. Still, I also hold some reservations about a sequel. Perhaps they might have introduced the other emotions via cameos in the first movie, but that would have required knowledge that there would be a sequel, though it was alluded to slightly at the end with the new console. Still, creativity and ideas don't flow linearly and pop into our heads randomly so it makes sense that there is some discontinuity since the whole series is completely original and not based on some already completed story.
It's almost as if she's a teenager with new emotions other than her main ones... because it's a part of growing up.....and they probably won't stay forever 😱
@@ohiodoesnt_exist6690it’s clearly not but it’s occurs more often in teens. Assuming someone doesn’t have anxiety disorder, feelings anxiety tends to occur less when teens become adults and stop caring what people think about them.
I don't and do like the idea anxiety. I don't know that I like the idea that anxiety can be called an emotion, but I only like that idea if anxiety comes and goes cause anyone of any age can have it but not 24/7
anxiety IS an emotion. a very valid and useful one. anxiety is not the same as anxiety disorder, in the same way that sadness is not the same as depression. experiencing anxiety helps us prevent possible negative outcomes, now experiencing anxiety about everything is a form a disordered thinking.
@MG-fb4yj that's a lot more helpful that's it's explained, thank you. Maybe when I see the movie it'll be more interesting to see the full direction they went
It can - but because anyone with science degree and certain reputation can make emotion categorisation system. Like in 2017 psychologists Alan S. Cowen and Dacher Keltner PhD made a research that resulted in 27 emotion map
@endorPK I watched a video by Dazz Reviews about this too, I'm pretty sure he mentions a fare of the 27 apparent emotions, and they went for quiet the concoction
One thing that irritates me is it now feels too complicated. Before it was just 5 chapters with names of basic emotions. Now we have envy, which I don’t think many kids know what that is, embarrassment, which you cannot tell me Riley has never felt embarrassed before like when she was crying on the first day of school, we got anxiety, which is just another variation of fear, and ennui, which most adults don’t even seem to know what that is
The movie explains everything u r confused. Anxiety was alrdy there in riley's mind in inside out 1. Anxiety did made a comment tht is related to Riley previous memories. So it's very obv the 5 new characters were there but was somewhere else
They're pointing out that what is shown in the trailer for the sequel contradicts things shown in the first movie. We saw inside the minds of other characters in the first movie, and none of them had the extra emotions, even teen characters. It doesn't mean the movie is automatically going to be bad, but it is still a retcon.
I mean what he explained is actually EXACTLY what i was questioning. Because if she is now developing these emotions, why didnt people older than her develop them as well? it makes no sense and I agree what he means. Inside out (1) really doesnt make sense.
@@annaYnation2554 dude, literally they can explain all that in the actual trama of the movie that is about you know why new emotions came out to us? lmao. why would you in the first place get to do a video saying that the movie doesnt make sense because of 3 videos of like 1:30 mins, also they kinda explain that in the same trailers, when we see that the anxiety in the dads head is not in the central plane and it gets there from nowhere, we also see that they can hide emotions like nostalgia so Am I not seeing the trailers or this video is just bullshit because the author want views lmao
Agreed, you summed up my feelings on this matter perfectly. Going by the rules established in the first movie, I feel like these new emotions should be fusion or subsets of the Core Five in the same way that Joy & Sadness combined to create Melancholy (Embarrassment should be a fusion of Fear & Disgust, Envy a fusion of Disgust & Anger, Anxiety perhaps a fusion of Fear & Sadness, and Ennui could maybe be a fusion of Sadness & Disgust).
Riley is turning 13, a teenager. We all know teenagers emotions are always very complicated and they are at an age where puberty starts. Everything becomes hard to manage. Overwhelming. After teenage years, people tends to be more control of their emotions. Core emotions tends to settle down
There is actually a clip that shows the dad having an anxiety emotion in his head. I wouldn't say this is a retcon, as the emotions are still there, but they're just not part of the main emotions in headquarters. I see it as those emotions come and go, but the main 5 are always there in control.
It's retcomned because he didn't have the emotions before. Even if you want to try to say they only show up as needed, the fact that they were moving across state would have meant anxiety showed up and mom was having to put out so have fires would have been reason for anxiety to show up. She didn't, because she didn't exist because per the first movie there are 5 basic emotions.
I was thinking that since Riley's mom is an adult. She grew out of those emotions cause emotions like anxiety, envy and embarrassment are supposed to be things that you can control a lot better when you're older and more mature
As a person with a diagnosed anxiety disorder I actually think the way they portrayed severe anxiety was accurate. Anxiety seriously can override everything else in severe cases, the safety mechanism turns into a deeply ingrained fear of ever making a mistake. One of the best portrayals of anxiety I’ve ever seen in a movie.
@Mr.sweetea I do too and I dunno, I've never felt like I was skied up from anxiety or a panic attack. I've done meth and the high from that seems more like this wide-eyed and excited little guy. If I were to visualize anxiety as a person, he'd be trying to make himself small over in the corner, not looking at anybody and trying not to be noticed. Wouldn't make for a very fun and colorful character. Haha whereas this thing reminds me of Tweak from South Park. Fear already seemed to cover anxiety in the first movie, I mean that's how he acts more often than acting downright terrified, since most of the time there isn't anything posing any potential threat to him so he's just prone to worrying about little things. I feel like they could have picked some better new emotions that don't overlap with the pre-existing ones, feelings that are actually new to you as a teenager, but then again I guess having a character named "Arousal" or "Horny" or something wouldn't be appropriate for a kid's film. Hmm what else...the only other feeling I can think of that is new to you as a teenager is bloodlust, like real, homicidal rage like you can't experience as a child. So...Lust and Bloodlust...not exactly characters fit for a kid's film, so it's understandable that they instead picked emotions that aren't new to you as a teenager, but they do tend to become more intense since you start worrying about your value on the sexual marketplace, so to speak, making embarrassment much worse than when you aren't interested in trying to impress the opposite sex or whatever, and envy is worse when it is romance or sex-related than any kind of envy children experience, so that makes sense I suppose. And what are the other new ones? Awe? Is that one of them? I forget.
bro only has anger and disgust
Yep
😭😭😭
Fr 😂
Bro must be fun at parties
lol
the parents have curtains behind their control center meaning they’ve learned to suppress those emotions
Interesting theory. The curtain representing masking would be really cool.
smart
or control those emotions or both
Woah so symbolic woah this movie is so deep
Only the mom has the curtains, the others don't.
Anxiety looks like Fregly from Diary of a Wimpy Kid
NAHH💀💀😭😭
BUT FR THO THEY COULD BE LONG LOST TWINS 💀💀💀
imagine if that's how freglys mom looks like
Anxiety reminds me of the wubbox from my singing monsters.
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Bro’s overthinking a kid’s movie
Yep lol
That’s every reviewer ever
It doesn't matter if it's a dam kids movie adults and any age watch it and some of us who have common sense actually look at it seriously and realize most of it doesn't make sense
@@juliegill3324 bro it is literally never that deep chill out 💀
@@MnstrNrgGn yh ik
In the new movie, Anxiety is in Riley's dad's head. But in the background. This is because they aren't MAIN emotions like the more important ones.
THANK YOU! Don’t know why nobody understands this!
Anxiety isn't even its own emotion: it's an expression of FEAR.
@Pink_elegance yes it is. Literally it comes from an oversensitive fight or flight response triggering where it shouldn't. Aka; fear.
@@Vanilla_cherry_coke1your explanation?
Bro is going to see the movie 😂
You forgot the bus driver in the first movie only has anger, yellow anger, green anger, blue anger, and purple anger
Each different angers have their own feelings
Lmfaoo
LOL
What a stupid movie
@@alex-yu4yvshut up
I just assumed that every one has those emotions but “botttled up” until they come out situationally. On a day to day basis, we have the main 5 that regulate us. During puberty those sub-emotions to our main ones are more prominent.
no they just arent there
@@jtteope1178you're one to talk💀
Well, a reasonable claim could be that some of these emotions are not actually present in the mines of others at the time. My evidence from the first movie is that Riley runs away from home and doesn't answer her parents' phone calls. This leads to some anxiety and at the same time anxiety among the parents, but we do not see that it has not previously been shown in the minds of the parents themselves. While you could argue that it's still a foregone conclusion if the new emotions shown in Inside Out 2 still exist in the first film, the father's anxiety really comes out of nowhere when something goes wrong, so it could be an act , which the new emotions come when something happens.
But long story short, since it's just a movie, I don't even know¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Repost: I accidentally clicked smth that changed my reply into Bulgarian, and when I turned it back to English, it became formal😭😭
All ya'll are dumb, Pixar released a trailer that shows the adults with the emotions like anxiety
It doesn’t at all act like the first movie doesn’t exist.. this guy didn’t watch it😂
Bro this was made before it dropped 😭
He made the video just by watching the trailwr
I honestly don't care. Never gonna watch it anyway.
@@LaughingLlamaLodgeYou should it’s a pretty good movie
His point does stand though
at the end, it shows the moms anxiety came back for a second so they’re still there just less “active”
Tbh I think they tried to say that just to try and piece it all together for us. Originally I don’t think they ever thought it was gonna get as much fame as it did and in turn they never planned to make a second movie
@@Vannazzzzthat’s definitely what happened
@@Vannazzzzactually i think they originally were going to have all the emotions but it didn’t make sense for a kid to have all the emotions
@@abriannawhite1531 maybe, we all have different minds and point of views
Yeah, meaning that has More control of that emotion bc she Is an adult and knows how to Manage those emotions better than Riley
The bus guy had the five core emotions, anger, anger, anger, anger, and anger
😂 2ait I never noticed that guy
For the people saying that those emotions only exist as a teenager:
1. I don't think they stop existing when we mature, it's more like we can control them better.
2. We see inside the mind of a teenager in Inside Out 1, and they are very anxiety-stricken on the inside about not being "cool" enough, and there were still just the five we see.
Yea people are just trying to headcanon it
Into making sense
Yeah you are 100% right because by the end of the movie she learns to manage her anxiety better
Like…embarrassment is for like 6 and above then axienty u can get whenever😭
No. They were frightened to not fit in and be cool. The beginning of anxiety is fear. If you can't control your fear enough, anxiety happens. So it makes perfect sense, people just want to act like they're smart.
@@howdelydoo Anxiety is a form of fear.
Dude, new ideas are kind of expected in a sequel. Not all of the ideas have to follow with something the original movie set up. The sequel was creative as hell, I loved it.
The best part is the movie didn't just act like the first movie doesn't exists. It's a true sequel that just expands on the original idea. Dude was just upset that new characters were introduced? But these new emotions make sense to not have as a kid or at least not have them be a huge part. At the end of the sequel the end scene shows her dad has Anxiety still, he was just hidden and didn't have a dedicated seat. This is why people need to wait until they've experienced something to judge.
They do have to follow up to the prequel or its bad writing, Sure the 2nd movie was good but it still was bad and lazy writing
Yeah, but he can't say its good or he isn't gonna get his paycheck
@@ca.nw."good but it still was bad"
@@ThatDanFox overall the movie was good but that part in particular was lazy writing
Thats because well adjusted adults arent supposed to be controlled by embaressment, envy, or amxiety. They are supposed to not have a seat at the table
Teenagers didn't have these emotions in their head either. Also, these emotions continue into adulthood.
@@Kolazola EDIT: my bad y’all. My dyslexic ass didnt read Kolas reply right
Kolazola is saying that even other teenagers (in the movie) don't have these other emotions either
@@Unluckyprincess15they're saying other teenagers (in the movie) don't have the other emotions either
@@KamiGami0109 :O ohhh
Sorry @Kolazola
Maybe the teenage emotions fade away over time like how bing bong did
Oh yeah😮
That or they get less and less prominent to the point they only come out a little?
i have a feeling they have their own spots in the main hub. you can see each of them coming out of random doors or cevices or even other things, possibly meaning they used to only cue a very specifc amount of times, but probably because of hormones theyre now being moved to the main hub, and now its pretty cramped and weird, thus giving the awkwardness of puberty a character in itself
So adults don't feel boredom or anxiety?
@@noobed9646 well clearly they don't since the first movie didn't show it
The final trailer confirms that they are there but not in main control
considering the fact that the parents have curtains in their minds shows they’ve learned to control their other emotions which is proven when in the second movie, anxiety in the fathers mind pops out for just a second before the dad ignores it
Bro lost joy, fear, and sadness
I saw the movie there is a video game character. It is so funny and the green girl falls in love with him, and he is really funny the way he rolls and jumps.😂💀
@kristinhoward171 watched it today, his whole big was my favorite part 😂
Yes it doesnt makes sense but it is also stupid to judge the movie that hasnt come out yet maybe new emotions have a another headquarter or they only show up during teenage years or something
In one of the trailers we see that Riley's dad indeed has Anxiety, but I think they appear only in specific situations, in teen years ones emotions can get out of hand and experience anxiety way more often, when you finally grow up your emotions become a bit more stable.
Exactly! Even if the movie might not make sense, I still have the thrill to watch it.
It does make sense though people just aren’t paying attention 😭😭😭
If they only show up during teen years and that’s the reason I will be very upset because saying adults don’t have anxiety and enui two things that play a big role in mental health would be a bad look for Pixar
@@montebeverly237
Yeah, I’m confused how it doesn’t make sense to people.🥴
It is only in your teenage years that you actually experience all those emotions that Riley is experiencing so when she is older she will go back to the main five.
not really, anxiety for the other characters was just off screen (the dad has anxiety)
@@HCNimh He can be an exception
Except in a trailer you see anxiety in the father's head.
Adults don’t feel bored or embarrassed?
Wait, so does that mean that Anxiety will die?
bro said they pretended the first movie didn’t exist- did your whole childhood become obsolete because you became more self-aware? no, gaining new emotions doesn’t cancel out the whole first movie. this was an amazing movie that i think was executed very well. it was so real to me that it brought up memories i forgot about from my old painful friendships. idk maybe that’s just me.
yeah and im pretty sure joy DID learn the lesson from the movie and now accepts sadness.
There's a simple explanation for this.
The new emotions introduced in the second movie weren't relevant to the plot of the first movie, so to fully design and animate them (and hire voice actors) for a few minor scenes in the heads of the supporting and tertiary characters would be a waste of time and resources.
So it's safe to assume that they are present in the heads of the other characters, just out of shot.
Exactly. Or they could not be there because they are temporary. Adults may lose those new emotions, but hey. I get anxiety and I'm an adult, so I can say it depends on the person.
@@paradoxine6287 I wouldn't even say that they're temporary. All emotions exist inside everyone, it's the person's personality that determines which emotions take front and centre, and which get sidelined.
The evidence is in the first Movie. With Joy being the centre stage of Riley's mind, Sadness being centre stage of the Mother's mind, and Anger being centre stage of the Dad's mind. All 3 of them had all 5 emotions (relevant to the first movie), but it was clear which ones were more dominant in their minds.
Anyone can experience Anxiety, Ennui, Embarrassment, or Envy... It just takes a very specific situation for it to occur.
Riley is young and has just started a new life in San Fran, so Anxiety is bound to set in, but for the parents, they've probably moved places several times in their life, so Anxiety will barely be a problem in this kind of situation.
Yeah, I think these are just the emotions that stay in the very back of our minds. Things that sorta just creep up on you. You don't always know you are envious of another, anxiety, embarrassment, and Ennui just appear out if nowhere too.
Anxiety did say she is a big fan, so this theory wouldn't be off.
They would have been relevant, but it's smart to only introduce so many emotions per movie
@@curtisleblanc5897 Yep, thanks for explaining the reason they were irrelevant to the first movie.
It's not just that we explicitly see like a dozen people's minds and they ALL have the core five in the original movie - it's also like we're pretending the climax of the first movie literally didn't exist.
The ENTIRE POINT of the first movie is that Riley, as a child, thinks and feels in simple terms, and her "default" state is pure joy. She essentially sees the other emotions, especially Sadness, as obstacles in the way of Joy, or brief stepping stones back to the default of Joy (hence why Joy is so controlling.)
The end of the film is Riley maturing and feeling and understanding more complex emotions - represented my memories that are no longer a single simple color, but combinations of colors. She accepts not only that she can have Core Memories other than Joyful ones, but that some memories can be more than one emotion.
Would all these "new" emotions introduced in the 2nd film not fall under the umbrella of these complex combinations of emotions?? Fear and anxiety? Disgust and envy? Sadness and Ennui?
Fear and anxiety basically being the SAME bloody thing really does frustrate me.
You already covered these emotions, you managed to have these five being the umbrella for the others as well.
There's a reason there weren't anymore, why they were cut, because they didn't need them in the movie.
And even then the main 5 getting KICKED OUT for not being needed Doesn’t make sense. Anxiety exists because fear exists. Saying you don’t need it despite the fact that it’s the reason you exist doesn’t track.
@@MoonPhantom And the fact the film tries to frame it as "Fear protects Riley from the stuff she can see while anxiety protects her from the stuff she can't see (She plans for the future)". When in the first movie we explicitly see fear plan for the future when he makes that big stack of possibilities for the first day of school so anxiety is literally so redundant.
Would've preferred if anxiety was like some sort of parasite rather than an actual emotion meant to be shown as Healthy
@@MoonPhantom im nervous about this movie being good too but take this from someone with an anxiety disorder, they are literally not the same thing. fear is a response to something happening and anxiety is the anticipation of something that could or is about to happen... and in the end, distinct emotions. it doesn't matter if it might come from the same place or brain function irl because having anxiety as a different character will be more in tune with people's experiences and how they talk about stuff like this
@@MoonPhantomthey're not the same though. Fear can be a variety of things but anxiety is... anxiety. When I'm anxious I'm not scared, I'm stressed and worried.
your problem has a simple explanation - they just didn't expect a movie to get such a great succes and they didn't plan on making the part 2
Amen🙏🏻 bro doesn’t need to over think it
Exactly, and I think including these emotions is a great idea to signify growth overtime
Wow, no way? 😂
That’s what i think, too. Still a bit skeptical for OTHER reasons, tho
Tf u mean? Yes they did lol are you stupid? They can't wait to pump out sequeals to anything
the movie came out 10 years ago, im pretty sure the writers werent even thinking of making a second movie a decade later, the movies aim is to show that when you grow up, you go through these new, confusing emotions. and the movie is BOMB
Riley is a teenager so those new emotions are showing up a lot more now but when she gets older they will come and go because she’s not going to be a teenager anymore just like her parents where we saw the dad’s anxiety come. It literally shows in the first movie as she grew up more emotions started showing up
Well yes and no
Because now in the new trailer we can see that the dad has an anxiety emotion so I geuss they just added on?
@@izzystrouth5124That’s exactly what op explained lol?
@@furankiglowing7278pffffffff I read there whole thing wrong 🥲
That still doesn't make sense because all of the emotions they show now are emotions children also have. Kids have anxiety and envy and boredom.
The real reason is that this is stuff for the plot. There's no real reason, there's nothing big behind it meaning-wise, it's just there for the plot of an animated movie.
this kinda reminded me how horrible it was to hit puberty during lock down
It shows us in later trailers that emotions can get bottled. That’s probably how they’re making up for the plot hole. Certain emotions aren’t shown because they become“suppressed”.
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Oh, yeah! Before that nice concept of suppressed emotions that Inside out 2 gave, I wonder how people think how the original film suppresses certain emotions and some have hilarious takes like tying them up to a wall.
That's what I was saying!
You have a fair point, but that also suggests that every character we witnessed in the previous film all bottle up the exact same emotions.
Yep, and it's perfectly acceptable to assume that the emotions of the characters in the credits also happened to be bottled, too, considering their internal strife (the exhaustion in keeping up the facade of being popular, the strain of being a teacher, etc)
I feel ya but in one of the trailers it pops into the dads head and we see the main emotions sitting there then anxiety pops out from under the desk so they may be present in everyone they’re just not in control
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@@Poof.0!
@@mellow9881 ?!
The point still stands, that shit literally means nothing.
Anxiety looks like one of those purple minions
She looks like rare wubbox
@@LeonardoMurillo-zb5eekid
Bro doesn't know the meaning of "Retcon"
Retcons aren't a good thing. If your story needs retcons, you messed up.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754yesnt, it really depends on HOW its used. Plot twists or reveals can also be retcons if they werent originally planned for but fit well enough.
But not all plot twists or reveals are retcons.
Saying all retcons are bad is just kinda... well biased.
@@dylansams4064 I didn't claim that all retcons are bad. I claimed that having retcons in the story is a bad thing. Either the retcon itself damages the story, or the story got damaged somewhere else requiring the retcon to fix it.
Also, biased towards what?
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@@donaldjgumpofficial5754
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754it's subjective, both movies are fine, the lore doesn't exist it's literally an abstraction inside a kids head, new emotion fairies go pbttft
I think as she grows up, and becomes more emotionally stable, the emotions will merge back into the original five. Representing the emotional struggles of puberty.
In that case it’s cannon that dad has anxiety. Because there was a scene in the trailer where anxiety was in dads head
@@PoliteSir Ah. I hadn’t seen that. Idk then. Maybe in adults they’re not always in head quarters and just pop up now and again but in teens they’re always there?
@@sixoftwelve6363 yeah that could work, still lazy connection. or maybe dad has a form of anxiety.
This honestly is an option Disney can go with. They probably don’t even have it planned this way lol I wouldn’t be surprised if they had loose ends but they sure could use this
i think something that's possible is that as we age, those new emotions start to merge into the 5 core emotions. Emotions like envy can be a mixture of rage and disgust. Anxiety could be a mixture of fear and sadness. As teenagers we can't control our emotions that well and they take control on their own.
Yeah but the whole point of the first movie is that the emotions work together to create those emotions and memories. This is best exemplified when joy and sadness create a bittersweet memory. An envious memory would just be the combination of, probably, fear and rage. It undercuts the whole system of core emotions.
@@BobGump-vq2jp yeah but I feel like the first movie was kinda just saying that kids can't really describe the more complicated emotions like anxiety, embarrassment, etc, and the mixing of emotions in the first movie like happiness and sadness comes to someone as young as Riley using the core emotions to explain how she feels instead of the new, more complicated emotions that we are introduced to when she gets older, to show she now knows that there are more complicated feelings that can be used to describe how she feels...sorry for the yapping btw
@@BobGump-vq2jpthe way I see it, is that when you are a child as well as an adult the emotion reactions are simple as you can fully understand/manage and comprehend your emotions once you an adult. As a child your emotions are simple and you express them simply, therefore the reason as a child and an adult your emotions are the core 5. While you are an adolescent those emotions are in a chaotic whirlwind and it rips them apart into subcategories of emotions.
Also the bus driver has all angers 🗿
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Anxiety and Embarrassment are literally splinters of fear. Ennui is a splinter of sadness.
Boredom is actually a form of disgust.
@@aminulhussain2277that makes no sense at all
@@MyCommentsAreStupid-m8e See plutchik's wheel of emotions.
@@aminulhussain2277 no that was a genuine question how does boredem correlate with sadness at all im bored enough to reply to your comment but im not sad
@@MyCommentsAreStupid-m8e Read again carefully.
this guy sounds so fun to be friends with (edit: yall need to chill. anxiety is absolutely an emotion and this is coming from someone WITH ANXIETY. chill.)
for a movie that didn't even come out yet, you could say he has a lot of *anger and disgust* for it.
@M1stful
And you are as irrelevant as an ant. Your point?
@@M1stful lmfao fr bro was getting heated abt something he didnt even watch yet
"AggresivelyAverage" indeed
“Oh I’m sorry you have anxiety? That’s not an EmOTiOn
Bro hasn’t even seen it 😂😂😂
bro is bro bro bro bro skull emoji laugh emoji bruuhh. Do you clones have a soul?
@SurprisedSniper420 its called a language ???? People surf the internet and will interact like how they see users here do.
@@SurprisedSniper420what’s do you have against the word bro 😭?
@@SurprisedSniper420average tf2 fan being unbearable
@@SurprisedSniper420UMM....☠️
ι like when disgust said "nuh uh uh what do you mean we? " slayyy
And how does embarrassment just now come in? I remember being embarrassed when I was a kid.
I think those emotions alr in riley head but they didnt come in the headquarter cuz anxiety said she is a huge fan of joy
@@Sherry_._so you are happy to fearfully see joy? Bro that’s wild
@@tankaheavy no i meant those new emotions probably exist in riley when she was a kid
I mean I’ve had all of those emotions since early childhood besides for maybe anxiety, but it definitely developed before puberty
Bad writing
in a trailer it shows that her dad has anxiety, but it just pops up from under the table, doesn’t have a seat there
so the other emotions probably just stay in the background in other people’s heads
Yeah since I saw the movie and dad and mom has both and they are behind the seats
Maybe they're more prevalent in teenagers and take the backseat again when they get to adulthood or something. Also maybe more anxious or easily embarrassed people have that as a extra core emotion.
That's what I was thinking, I wonder if the first movie has any hints towards these emotions
Anxiety is built like a wubbox😭😭😭
Downoenowow wawawawawawaw
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NOOOO DONT DO WUBBOXES LIKE THAT
Anxiety bouta say: 🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳
I thought I was the only one that thought that💀
Anxiety looks like Orange from Rainbow Friends😭✋
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Anxiety looks like a Wubbox from msm
Plus, the new emotions are so easily encompassed in the core five.
Anxiety = Fear
Embarrassment = Disgust
Ennui = Sadness
The movie could easily be the core emotions fumbling with the complex new control panel, something going wrong, and them getting "scattered" all over the place, thus causing the chaotic puberty symptoms in Riley.
Exactly this. I was thinking of them like mixes of the other emotions. Anxiety is mostly fear but with a hint of disgust (of perceived failure that causes it to linger), embarrassment mostly disgust but with a hint of fear (of what others think). Envy is easily anger, disgust, perhaps a bit of sadness as well?
Ennui... I'm not really clear on what it is people have said boredom sort of?... Dispondance is what I see looking at the character, which makes me more inclined to think of when the console went grey, but not as serious, because it seems to be a feeling of being disconnected from the world.
Wow imagine anger gets stronger because of periods
oooo i like your idea that wouldve been really cool
Exactly!
and lust
Im a teenager, I didn’t have all these emotions UNTIL my teenage years. That’s why we don’t see them early on, as a kid, everything seems magical and easy, once we get older, these complex emotions hit us and we don’t know how to handle it. That’s where the anxiety, embarrassment, and the others come in. Once you’re an adult, you’re more than likely to not experience these that strongly, as you’ve worked it out, but as a teenager you don’t know that.
Edit: for clarification, I did indeed experience envy and embarrassment and boredom, but it wasn’t that present until I was in my teen years. My childhood was for the most part really good, I had little to no trauma until I reached 12-13 years old. Obviously as an adult you will experience these too, but usually by then, life has sorted out and managing all these isn’t much of an issue if you have healthy coping skills.
fair, but i experienced anxiety and embarrassment as a kid. it took longer to properly identify them, but i definitely experienced them as early as 5-7 years old. maybe it's just the bad childhood, but riley had a great childhood so it makes sense for her not to develop these emotions until puberty.
Too be fair-was i was like 6 i got embarrassed and rn (13-11 is my age) i have axienty😃
You literally see someone in that age bracket with only those emotions.... wtf are you talking about, this is a clear cash grab.
That's nonsense. You just don't remember your years as a child that well.
Many adults have these feelings
So Pixar basically assumes that embarrassment, anxiety and envy are teen-only emotions.
That’s funny.
Yup, veeeery funny. And damn i'm and old teen, 34. I completely forgot that those "emotions" are for teens, not for adults. 😶
Not even, cause the movie brings up the idea of suppressed emotions. So these adults or teens could easily just try to bottle up those emotions like how our main 5 were in that one teaser.
No I thought I saw anxiety in the moms head
@abigailfalcon1014 Nah that was the dad's head, her father has anxiety
@@Alo-Alois oh ok I get it mixed up a lot
Maybe Riley's parents learned to suppress their other emotions? I mean, most parents would want to suppress their emotions like anxiety or envy because they fear that showing these kinds of emotions in front of their children might result in them thinking that they made a mistake or they're the reason why their parents are unhappy.
Honestly you aren’t wrong. Ennui definitely should’ve been there with the goth person, lol
For everyone saying that these are teenage emotions and that they'll fade away or whatever when she gets older, you do realise that adults can be embaressed. Adults can get anxious. They don't just lose the ability to feel these emotions and you don't just suddenly gain them when you turn 12 either. Hell, I remember being embaressed by things way before then. What happened is that, for whatever reason, they desperately wanted anxiety to be its own character. Pretty much all of the new emotions are just subsets of the existing ones. The ending of inside out 1 showed that life is often a mix of emotions. That was the whole point. Riley's first mixed memory was of happiness and saddness, the two emotions that are the most opposite. And then we see that many of her new core memories are mixed of emotions. What makes infinitely more sence is her gaining new personality islands, not new fucking emotions.
TH-camrs like this r the reason why movies get bad reviews. Actually there r more islands and family Island is very small which makes so much sense since when u enter teenage hood, most of time u prioritise friends over parents. And plus the emotions r there in the parents mind too. And actually anxiety made a comment abt seeing Riley's moments which were supposed to be moments in inside out 1. So those 5 emotions might hv stayed somewhere in headquarters. I gain all the information from the clips they released
It's revealed in later trailers that Riley's dad also still has anxiety but not her mom.
@@pixelmagicbeat8131they hate everything
Well they didn't just appear, they said that they "moved up to headquarters" implying they existed, however weren't the MAIN emotions.
Not only that, but they also don't just appear when you are older. You can still feel anxious and embarrassed as a child. Idk why people are acting like children don't have any worries or negative thoughts, especially children growing in different environments
fun fact: (⚠️ spoiler warning ⚠️)
i found the dad has anxiety, i didn't know parents have anxiety
Parents who care about raising their children right will always have anxiety
@@melissaherrera940 true
Adults in general can have anxiety lol, not only parents. They are human beings after all
That's weird. Then I don't know why anxiety didn't appear in his head when we would always move back and forth with different people's minds idk
@@nightwolfteamofawesomeness9804 they probably didn’t plan for a sequel when making the first movie
This AGED well so MUCH💀
no
Take off your pants NOW
dad had anxiety in one trailer
I know I remember watching it in seeing the new emotions in thinking wait a minute, then the parents only have five too?
Tell me you don’t understand the concept without telling me you don’t understand the concept
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i’ll do you one better: i am telling you that i don’t understand the concept. why would they not be present in other people’s minds? i can’t imagine the mind of an adult who’s just moved across the country and had their daughter run away from home wouldn’t have anxiety, even if it’s not a main emotion. maybe i’m not seeing something but it seems like an oversight to me
@@goblinsuburb because the idea didnt exist when they made the first movie
Bro only has anger,ennui(boredom),disgust💀💀☠️☠️💀☠️
I just assumed the emotions also disappear at some point
Not really. I watched and not going to say much but it shows anxiety of mom and dad in the credits. I think there more suppressed when you get older but still there.
Yeah, Disney and Pixar have been writing sequels that throw out the point of the first movie for years. Frozen 1 was about how Elsa belonged in Arendelle even though she had ice powers. Frozen 2 was about how she didn't belong in Arendelle. Wreck it Ralph was all, "Don't go turbo! Stay in your game!" and the sequel was like, "If Vanellope wants to leave her game, you have to let her go."
i agree with you ralph breaks the internet was a train wreck but elsa has always been different from the rest of her kingdom not just because of her powers. does it not make sense to make a sequel exploring her purpose and more importantly asking the big question: why the hell does she have ice powers??
@@fnafnerd8783wanna know the worst part? Else was originally gonna be the villain in Frozen, look at early concept art for Elsa and type in villain next to her name and see what you get.
Wait, What? I thought wreck it Ralph is about the importance of accepting others regardless how the rest of society judges them lol sure we see the scene of sonic saying don't leave your game but that's cause it's a warning cause if they die in a different game they won't be coming back
@@rakano3733 that is the message of the film and i guess you can go outside your game buts heavily discouraged besides at the end of the first movie venelope is so happy and the reason they aren’t in the second is just the very generic “oh it’s getting boring” it’s lazy and it doesn’t make sense pac-man has been doing this for forty years and he doesn’t complain. venelope leaving is almost like ralph leaving she’s the most popular racer sure her game can function without her but it can loose player base with her gone risking the game being unplugged.
yes, no point on debating with fans, theyre blind
I just think it’s because they didn’t know that there was going to be a second movie so they just made one based on that script
Because the rest of the NEW emotions are compressed emotions so they aren't out in the headquarters
Especially since at the end of the first one, we see that the core emotions combine to make new ones, like how joy and sadness combined to make a nostalgic emotion
I meant memory
I don’t think joy and sadness combined to make nostalgia. It was more a bittersweet memory. Like you were happy at the time but sad that it’s over. Nostalgia doesn’t have to necessarily be sad which is why it’s kind of its own emotion.
@@melissaherrera940 I think that's exactly what nostalgia is, actually. It's sadness or grief over the memory of previous happiness that is now lost to you. A longing for a time that can't be recaptured.
I always saw the Emotion world as metaphorical at best. It's an allegory and not meant to be taken literally.
Just like the bible
@@Weltshmerzhow did the bible get here lmaoooo 💀
One of the trailers show that people have the other emotions but they aren’t as prevalent until they manifest.
Anxiety seemed pretty relevant when that boy in the first film had the 'girl' alarm going off in his head. I'd imagine her parents were pretty anxious when she disappeared in the first film
The curtain in their heads shows they suppressed those emotions.
If you understand emotions, these new ones are the ones at the back of our head. While the OG are what we use all day everyday. Makes sense to me
I just don’t understand anxiety when fear is LITERALLY right there
Fear is PHIsichal while anxiety is mental
They aren’t the same thing
Anxiety explains it.
Fear is protecting Riley from the stuff she can see, Anxiety is protecting her from the stuff she can't see.
@@sunlakestar2549 we saw Fear pull out a book of possible bad first days at school, so he's clearly anxious about things that arent even likely such as a meteor.
fear and anxiety are two different emotions
When you get older, you learn to control these emotions. They usually just merge with the main 5. But anxiety is hard to lose.
In the second movie the anxiety of Riley’s mom comes back out at one scene, which means those emotions are still there but aren’t controlling the person that much (they are probably controlling more during the puberty time)
Riley is a new teen in this movie. Idk if you remember, but new teens have CRAZY emotions and hormones. Adults tend to have those emotions in check and the main five would be the emotions we saw everyone else have. It makes sense lmao but also, I'm sure they'll explain it in the movie. Let's save our issues for when the movie actually comes out lmao
The thing is they don't have new emotions. Hormones cause the emotions that are already there to be more intense, which then makes it show more obviously that they are still children (ie operating with limited experience in processing these emotions, and being less affected by their intensity).
In one of the trailers the dad has anxiety but he only pops up BRIEFLY from under the control table, as is with adults that have more control over they’re emotions
Nostalgia exist in the original movie when joy mix with sadness,aka the more complex emotion....
I really hope they expand on this instead of ignore it. It was the point of the movie, after all.
These emotions are really strong during teenage years which is why there only seen in the sequel
Not to mention the other emotions were already filling the new ones jobs? Panic did anxiety, disgust did jealousy ect
Nah bro. Fear and anxiety are 2 different emotions. Just like envy and disgust. How can you want to be like someone and be disgusted with them?? That's jealousy not envy.
@@ha.6215I have seen the movie, and no spoilers here, but Anxiety acts like real anxiety. They worry about the future and only react to the present based on its effect on the future. While Fear acts more around current danger
Lol I was really worried about this happening as well but I watched the movie and thankfully they didn’t do that, like anxiety literally explains how she’s different than fear. Emotions are really complicated and so sometimes it seems like they are experiencing something like joy when it’s something different, for example when people nervous laugh or smile when they aren’t really happy. And this is also shown when Anxiety is making Riley mask. It’s not that some of the emotions replaced the others the whole plot is Anxiety gets carried away and worries about the more “simplified” emotions not being what Riley needs so she tries to take over and causes a chemical imbalance (in other words a disorder, and in the movie’s case I am pretty sure its Social Anxiety disorder) I went to watch the movie expecting to give it a 0/10 maybe a 2/10 at best but I ended up rating it a 9/10 because yea it’s not perfect and has some ploy holes but they really depicted the emotion Anxiety vs an anxiety disorder really well so I highly recommend checking it out even if you have low expectations
Do you not have emotions?
@@PinnePonno
The movie: 😃
The Theory: 💀
What theory?
The video talks about an inconsistency without presenting a theory, so I'm not really sure what you mean.
@@nursewithanoseringwhat inconsistency 😂 he blabbered about everyone having emotions even though that's the point
@@Handle44555bro the point is that those new emotions weren't there in anyone's head before.
@@greensaintjester6392 puberty era can get you like that man
@@ed_cmntonly That's seems like the case here. Let's wait and see the movie's explanation though
>Character starts going through puberty, develops new emotions.
>Doesn’t develop horny
God imagine if they put that one in lmao
Lol I think "Turning Red" covers it, you should see it.
Horny would be like a cheerleader, amplifying the other core emotions. Joy when actually getting it on, Fear and Disgust when dealing with inhibitions, Anger when confronted with rivals, Sadness when rejected. Joy and Horny are best friends, but everyone else tends to get in the way, so Horny is usually trying to get them drunk so Horny can take the wheel.
|-|orny would be like a cheerleader, amplifying the other core emotions. Joy when actually getting it on, Fear and Disgust when dealing with inhibitions, Anger when confronted with rivals, Sadness when rejected. Joy and |-|orny are best friends, but everyone else tends to get in the way, so |-|orny is usually trying to get them drunk so |-|orny can take the wheel.
(YT deleted my original comment so I had to do that)
thats not an emotion tho
kids who are growing up and some of them experiencing these new emotions like anxiety and stuff now have a movie that addresses the fact that growing up isn't easy and that must bring comfort to so many people. i personally don't think this movie has an "issue"
Well those emotions arent necessarily healthy so it would make sense that the older you are the more you mature and can contain/control those emotions so they come out less and are less prevalent
Aren't necessarily healthy? Unlike anger which can lead to anger issues if uncontrolled, or fear which can lead to paranoia or a phobia if too extreme?
It does make sense that the older and more mature you get, you become better at controlling your own emotions, but I don't think it means feelings like anxiety, embarassment, envy or boredom dissappear. Since all of those emotions are very normal to have.
The simplest explanation is Pixar chose to include only 5 main emotions for the first movie, not thinking about a sequel, and now they're doing a retcon to include more emotions that were left out🤣
@@declaracionespolemicasthey dont dissappear more like just in the background as shown in the new trailer
@@jjam1025 that makes no sense riley would of felt envy seeing her frinds back home would of felt embarrassment after messing up the first day would depression would of made sense to be introduced during the idea scene and since depression can tend to be anger directed inward anger would really be the only one to have any amount of control most of the time since other emotions tend to be numbed or over shadowed by negative feelings
@@rogerjack18 wrong reply??? I was talking about the dad
@@jjam1025 oh well I guess the question is why wouldn't we of scene them in the background in the first movie
Im from the future and your point doesnt matter, the 2nd movie talks about this being a problem and makes it the plot of the movie, the world they made is changing
Bro is mad at a kids movie 💀
I don’t understand the bums that actually waste their time to review this type of stuff 😹😹
Imagine being upset some guy is criticizing a movie you like
@@YouMissedAgain2024 Just a random reel. Why would I be upset that Mr. Explain it all didn't like a movie? Seems like the type that'd talk through it anyways.
@@wolfofloreofficial Go outside little bro. Stop getting mad at people's criticisms. 😂
@@gnomerome3765 You're the type of person to get mad at Hogwarts Legacy and send threatening emails to JK Rowling. So you can't talk.
Anxiety looks EXACTLY like the Wubbox from My Singing Monsters ☺️🤣🙏
The new emotions are sub-sets of the already established emotions. It makes no sense why they’d be separate entities.
Sure it does. Your DNA is a result of mixing the DNA of your parents. And yet you are a unique, distinct, and separate entity from your parents.
On a different note. Obviously they added the new emotions so the movie would be new, interesting, and fresh (and more characters = more merch). Most people enjoyed the first movie, so it all depends on how well they develop the lore for the new emotions. After all, real people have many more than 5 emotions and can experience them all in different ways. Still, I also hold some reservations about a sequel.
Perhaps they might have introduced the other emotions via cameos in the first movie, but that would have required knowledge that there would be a sequel, though it was alluded to slightly at the end with the new console. Still, creativity and ideas don't flow linearly and pop into our heads randomly so it makes sense that there is some discontinuity since the whole series is completely original and not based on some already completed story.
Oranges are apples, because they both grow on trees. Makes no sense just like your logic. I'm liking the optimism though.
Yeah it makes no sense, they literally are just aspects of the core 5
how?
@@R4Z4K1N what does that even mean?
It's almost as if she's a teenager with new emotions other than her main ones... because it's a part of growing up.....and they probably won't stay forever 😱
Yea cause anxiety is only a teenage thing
@@ohiodoesnt_exist6690it’s clearly not but it’s occurs more often in teens. Assuming someone doesn’t have anxiety disorder, feelings anxiety tends to occur less when teens become adults and stop caring what people think about them.
@@melissaherrera940 i'm a kid and i have anxiety(not that young of a kid tho) like in specific situations only
@@ohiodoesnt_exist6690no its not.
The parents also have the new emotions, not new for them, only new to show up in the movie
I see anxiety and embarrassment being a trigger or a characteristic feature from Fear
Yeeeessss that's what puberty is. All those other emotions manifest but as you mature they don't dominate.
Anxiety looks like Rare Wubbox from My Singing Monsters for some reason
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That's how you were born, anxiety! Fregley and rare wubbox said to their child.
The emotions grow on and off of ppl at different stages
I don't and do like the idea anxiety. I don't know that I like the idea that anxiety can be called an emotion, but I only like that idea if anxiety comes and goes cause anyone of any age can have it but not 24/7
anxiety IS an emotion. a very valid and useful one. anxiety is not the same as anxiety disorder, in the same way that sadness is not the same as depression. experiencing anxiety helps us prevent possible negative outcomes, now experiencing anxiety about everything is a form a disordered thinking.
@MG-fb4yj that's a lot more helpful that's it's explained, thank you. Maybe when I see the movie it'll be more interesting to see the full direction they went
@@MG-fb4yjNot true fear prevents negative outcomes, while anxiety doesn't.
It can - but because anyone with science degree and certain reputation can make emotion categorisation system.
Like in 2017 psychologists Alan S. Cowen and Dacher Keltner PhD made a research that resulted in 27 emotion map
@endorPK I watched a video by Dazz Reviews about this too, I'm pretty sure he mentions a fare of the 27 apparent emotions, and they went for quiet the concoction
One thing that irritates me is it now feels too complicated.
Before it was just 5 chapters with names of basic emotions.
Now we have envy, which I don’t think many kids know what that is, embarrassment, which you cannot tell me Riley has never felt embarrassed before like when she was crying on the first day of school, we got anxiety, which is just another variation of fear, and ennui, which most adults don’t even seem to know what that is
I have never heard of "ennui" what the hell is that
R yall dumb? I'm pretty sure tht just the characters name. Ennui is actually boredom
The movie explains everything u r confused. Anxiety was alrdy there in riley's mind in inside out 1. Anxiety did made a comment tht is related to Riley previous memories. So it's very obv the 5 new characters were there but was somewhere else
@@pixelmagicbeat8131 why would they give them a name when EVERY SINGLE OTHER EMOTION is just called one name, being whatever emotion they are
Only the main emotions are shown in the front of the mind. The other emotions stay in the back of the main control center until needed
What about.... I don't know.... WATCH THE MOVIE??? How can you say it denies the first movie and retcon it WHEN YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT???????
They're pointing out that what is shown in the trailer for the sequel contradicts things shown in the first movie. We saw inside the minds of other characters in the first movie, and none of them had the extra emotions, even teen characters. It doesn't mean the movie is automatically going to be bad, but it is still a retcon.
I mean what he explained is actually EXACTLY what i was questioning. Because if she is now developing these emotions, why didnt people older than her develop them as well? it makes no sense and I agree what he means. Inside out (1) really doesnt make sense.
He never said he didn’t watch the first movie.
@@annaYnation2554 dude, literally they can explain all that in the actual trama of the movie that is about you know why new emotions came out to us? lmao. why would you in the first place get to do a video saying that the movie doesnt make sense because of 3 videos of like 1:30 mins, also they kinda explain that in the same trailers, when we see that the anxiety in the dads head is not in the central plane and it gets there from nowhere, we also see that they can hide emotions like nostalgia so Am I not seeing the trailers or this video is just bullshit because the author want views lmao
He explained it
Everyone had 5 emotions in the prior flim now there's more in the sequel
Did you watch the video?
That is because puberty starts around when you’re a teenager and stops when you’re like 16
in the movie they actually debunk this by saying that when you get 18 or older you get the 5 primary back
wait did they? i watched it but i might have missed that scene
Bruh
Can you shut and wait till it comes out 💀
FR, maybe it'll explain it when it comes out AND ITS FOR KIDS NOT FOR GROWN MEN TO WATCH AND COMPLAIN ABOUT
@@Ozzie_Lustwhat’s wrong with not liking something?
@@GoblinGoblinson Never said that Re-read my comment
God forbid someone criticizes something...
the movie hasn't released yet tho....
Agreed, you summed up my feelings on this matter perfectly. Going by the rules established in the first movie, I feel like these new emotions should be fusion or subsets of the Core Five in the same way that Joy & Sadness combined to create Melancholy (Embarrassment should be a fusion of Fear & Disgust, Envy a fusion of Disgust & Anger, Anxiety perhaps a fusion of Fear & Sadness, and Ennui could maybe be a fusion of Sadness & Disgust).
Not to mention all the unfortunate implications that are brought out, especially with how anxiety is being handled….
Simple. Adults have got past puberty/what Riley is going through, and some kids didn’t hit puberty yet. Adults have learned to control those emotions.
Riley is turning 13, a teenager. We all know teenagers emotions are always very complicated and they are at an age where puberty starts. Everything becomes hard to manage. Overwhelming. After teenage years, people tends to be more control of their emotions. Core emotions tends to settle down
There is actually a clip that shows the dad having an anxiety emotion in his head. I wouldn't say this is a retcon, as the emotions are still there, but they're just not part of the main emotions in headquarters. I see it as those emotions come and go, but the main 5 are always there in control.
It's retcomned because he didn't have the emotions before. Even if you want to try to say they only show up as needed, the fact that they were moving across state would have meant anxiety showed up and mom was having to put out so have fires would have been reason for anxiety to show up. She didn't, because she didn't exist because per the first movie there are 5 basic emotions.
anxiety is literally just fear with extra steps
The main problem with this, is that it makes complete sense, you just have to watch the goddamn movie fist ;)
Maybe they will....idk.....explain it in the movie?
I think you dont see the whole picture, also how can you be upset with a movie that hasnt even come out🤦🏼♀️
I was thinking that since Riley's mom is an adult. She grew out of those emotions cause emotions like anxiety, envy and embarrassment are supposed to be things that you can control a lot better when you're older and more mature
No because I’ve watched it at the end anxiety comes out for both of the parents
Anxiety seems less like anxiety and more like amphetamine psychosis.
As a person with a diagnosed anxiety disorder I actually think the way they portrayed severe anxiety was accurate. Anxiety seriously can override everything else in severe cases, the safety mechanism turns into a deeply ingrained fear of ever making a mistake. One of the best portrayals of anxiety I’ve ever seen in a movie.
@Mr.sweetea I do too and I dunno, I've never felt like I was skied up from anxiety or a panic attack. I've done meth and the high from that seems more like this wide-eyed and excited little guy. If I were to visualize anxiety as a person, he'd be trying to make himself small over in the corner, not looking at anybody and trying not to be noticed. Wouldn't make for a very fun and colorful character. Haha whereas this thing reminds me of Tweak from South Park. Fear already seemed to cover anxiety in the first movie, I mean that's how he acts more often than acting downright terrified, since most of the time there isn't anything posing any potential threat to him so he's just prone to worrying about little things. I feel like they could have picked some better new emotions that don't overlap with the pre-existing ones, feelings that are actually new to you as a teenager, but then again I guess having a character named "Arousal" or "Horny" or something wouldn't be appropriate for a kid's film. Hmm what else...the only other feeling I can think of that is new to you as a teenager is bloodlust, like real, homicidal rage like you can't experience as a child. So...Lust and Bloodlust...not exactly characters fit for a kid's film, so it's understandable that they instead picked emotions that aren't new to you as a teenager, but they do tend to become more intense since you start worrying about your value on the sexual marketplace, so to speak, making embarrassment much worse than when you aren't interested in trying to impress the opposite sex or whatever, and envy is worse when it is romance or sex-related than any kind of envy children experience, so that makes sense I suppose. And what are the other new ones? Awe? Is that one of them? I forget.