Grueling Psych Drug Withdrawal: Dave talks with Journalist Robert Whitaker
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Robert Whitaker’s books provide much more detail about this subject, including citations to the scientific research. His book “Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America” is available here: amzn.to/2OO45tI
“How to Quit Antidepressants: Very Slowly, Doctors Say” in the New York Times: nyti.ms/2SMXFYy
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Same here. I hold a PhD in Physics and I was working in software engineering/AI before the horrific Venlafaxine withdrawal brutally hit me. 16 months after that my cognitive functions are strongly impaired, I cannot sleep and I have many other neurological and psychological symptoms. I cannot take care of my family anymore. Nobody warned me, this is a real crime. I wish I had never seen a psychiatrist. My initial issues were not so bad.
“Nobody would listen to me”. This guy is right. I went through this. I still am. When people don’t listen, it causes a sense of hopelessness and despair. All of this is backed by science. But society doesn’t want to believe what the truth is.
Agreed. I have given up talking to those around me.
I would compare recovery of a brain injury from benzos to being sentenced to jail time. Your almost useless in everyday task and just biding your time until you fully heal. Its inconceivable that so many doctors get away with destroying people's lives due to ignorance and ego. Thanks for the video....
You're welcome.
@@smilemor-phony5964 that's so sad. America the great isn't great at all.
@@smilemor-phony5964
Yes I am aware of that..
Jail would be easier. People in jail can exercise, socialize, and play games. I was brain raped so bad I could barely function doing activities of daily living, let alone anything else.
Yep.. just doing time now at 18 months post Klonopin / All RX drugs wd after an initial thirteen month taper.
What a tragedy!!!!! How evil this industry is. And how awful that this man's family did not believe or support and as he says, that is even worse than the physical and cognitive impairment from the drugs. "Nothing drives people crazier than telling them their reality is false". These videos are crucial for awareness. Thank you all for doing them.
That is what happened to me as well. And He is dead on about that being the worst part of antidepressant induced brain damages. The fervent denial of everybody around you as the medical establishment takes away all the credibility you have with your own family.
@@standUpToPSSD Likewise here on all fronts. After being on 30+ different psych meds (starting w/Ritalin @ age 4 in 1971) ovr a 40+ yr period (my DOB: 7/20/1967) b4 becoming psych med-free on 1/1/2017, there's no fuckin' doubt of the damage psych meds caused me. Shit; my sister wants no part of me 'til I'm back on psych meds. My message 2 Beth Cox (my sister)::NOT HAPPENING @ ALL so G.F.Y.!!!!!
This should be played at every doctor visit prior to a prescription being written so the patient can really think about what’s going on.
They don't care, they just want money from an addicted patient
Like with cirgarettes
Yeessssss!!!!!
100% agree that these drugs severely affect executive function skills.
And how many people don't realize that the drugs are causing it, go to their psychiatrist complaining of depression and anxiety because they can't function normally anymore, and get put on even more drugs? What a nightmare. When does it end?
I went for depression...it's when it all started with the Benzo they prescribed. Come to find out I was low in Vitamin D and that causes depression. I still can't believe what they did to me.
THIS WILL END AFTER A PSYCH PATIENT ENTERS THE YEARLY MEETING OF THE "APA" - AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION - & SHOOTS DEAD AT LEAST 50-100 MOTHERFUCKERS BASTARDS PSYCHIATRIC DOCS. JUST LIKE IN THE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN USA. EVERY ONE-REPEAT-EVERY ONE OF THOSE SHOOTWRS WAS A PSYCH PATIENT ON PRESCRIPTION PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS "APPROVED" BY ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKINF BASTARD AMERICAN ORGANIZATION - FDA.
ONLY AFTER SUCH A SHOOTING WILL AMERICA & THE WORLD LISTEN & COME TO ITS SENSES.
I AM FROM INDIA BUT IM SURE ALL WHO HAVE SUFFERED & ARE READING THIS WILL WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH ME. 50-100 DOCS WILL HAVE TO DIE TO SAVE THE LIVES OF MILLIONS OF PSYCH PATIENTS LIKE ME & DAVE & YOU WHO ARE SLOWLY ROTTING AWAY BCOS WE BELIEVED OUR MOTHERFUCKER DOCTOR. PL FORWARD THIS COMMENT TO ANY DOC YOU KNOW.
BYE
LET US ALL BREAK THE CURSE OF THIS GENERATION!!!
@@theyoung-dayangvoices1314 More like the curse of the last three generations. I'm gen - x. I started as ADHD on Ritalin at thirteen & wound up Paranoid Schizophrenic on Thorazine by the time I was expelled from high school for lack of attendance.
@@matthewatwood8641 Yup, Matt. I hear ya on this 1. BTW; seems like Ritalin & Thorazine contributed 2 ur lack of attendance in H.S.!!!!!
After five years on Zoloft I had horrible effects from the drug and I had no idea what was happening to me. I then proceeded to do other psychiatric treatments that made things much worse. I have been in excruciating pain and debilitating depression for two years now. I'm 25 years old and attempted to end my life twice because of psychiatry. Nobody believed me in my family and finding this video and watching it and others on the channel with them has given me at least the validation that what I have been saying for so long is true and what I know has happened to me is real. I am finally believed. Thank you for giving me that.
Well said. You are in good company. Youre not alone. Best of luck!
I’m 26 soon and have tried multiple anti depressants ambien etc I’m now on vaped cannabisand kratom tea, and chamomile tea at night. One serving of alcohol or less a day in the form of beer diluted to 1.4% abv.
Pssd for 6 years. Its been absolute hell.
How are you getting on now Risa? I hope you are doing better 🙏 I am on Effexor 225mg and want to come off but im not stable enough atm. I wish i never started an antidepressant and tried to get better through natural ways
Hope you’ve seen some improvement girl, so unfair to deal with this at your age 😭
It's not just America folks. It's worldwide.
I have been addicted to heroin and psychiatric drugs - I would rather kick one thousand heroin habits than be on these psychiatric drugs!!!!!!!!!
He is a perfect example how these drugs damage the brain and nervous system immediately and longterm. People experience loss of executive functions and higher brain functions, loss of emotions, brain fog, frontal lobe damage, memory loss, over excitement, nervousness, difficulty to concentrate, nerve pain as the brain is overstimulated and also fights back on neurotransmitter circuit changes.People can get diabetes and dementia 20 years earlier, liver and kidney damage on longterm usage such as drug induced mania and chronic brain impairment as the individual balance of neurotransmitters is disturbed by these drugs and the brain reacts with receptor downregulation etc.
The only person that believed me for years was my husband (thank God). I lost almost all of my friends and family and I tried to commit suicide using the drug that was damaging me. I was an Accountant and like this man I have a hard time using Excel now, I have a hard time doing everything even though I'm 'recovered'. I cannot believe they prescribe drugs that do this to people...it's makes me so sad.
Awful going through this I’m suffering now with insomnia 😢😢
which pills were you on?
How long did it take you to recover
Why do they even prescribe them? So so dangerous.
@@sjanoski8878 RE: Y psych meds r prescribed? "$$$$$"; I know that it's not right but that's the sad reality.
Is it possible that we could get a follow-up with Dave to see how he's doing?
I assume that some of the poor reactions from family comes from their need to believe there is "help" for mental illness. I have a lot of sympathy for this guy. I hope he continues to improve.
Boy can I relate to everything said, all damaged by these type of drugs seem to have very similar reactions & stories, can’t understand why pharma is getting away with doing this to people😩.
Governement likes money. There is no care
2.5 years off prescribed benzos, I have completely been changed. Executive functioning is ruined. I ran my own business and ended in a horrible state. So angry about this.
Irene, I hope you are doing some better now.
It's crazy I had such a similar experience. I have bad panic attacks without anxiety/depression. I was put on an SSRI and it was a constant worst panic attack. When I told my Dr she just said it was cause I am an anxious person and asked my family "doesn't she want to get better?" People not taking it seriously is such a betrayal. I stopped taking the pills without telling them.
I've been on mirtazapine, valium and lexapro for over 10 years. I'm 61. A few months back I decided to come off them, starting with the lexapro. But before I did, I also decided to do some research because I understood that withdrawal is an 'issue'. OMG!! The more I researched and understood just how debilitating, and in most cases, permanently damaging the process is, I changed my mind. At this stage in my life I just can't face that living nightmare. It's a Hobson's choice though. These meds damage your brain when you are on them too. And there is the chance that the meds stop working (whatever that means)...and can plunge you into unanticipated withdrawal. Big Pharma are destroying millions of lives. The psychiatrists too. And the family doctors are clueless, and in many cases, complicit. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I see this through in one piece (ish). This is a medical scandal of epic proportions...1/5 of the US adult population are on SSRIs etc.
I'm sharing this message in my country, Spain, the truth must be heard everywhere.
I took escitalopram (Lexapro/Cipralex) for over 9 years and I quit cold-turkey almost 2 years ago (May 2018). Definitely still feel like half my brain is missing... executive function issues, cognitive impairment, unable to handle stress and generally having a hard time processing basic information. Learning new tasks feel like its straining my brain... and I'm only 32. Literally feel a bit handicapped at this point. I feel so ashamed for being on them so long, and would do anything to have never touched them. Worst of all, it's most likely damaged my brain permanently. I hate the psychiatric industry so so much...
Because you cold-turkey'd it may take you longer to recover but it will happen. I don't think any of us will regain our full capacity but we will be able to be happy and function as a relatively normal person.
I have suffered from bouts of severe depression all my life. I've been on 20 mg. of Ciprelex for 8 years. In January of 2020, I weaned off over a four month period. I'm now 4 months off & I'm in Severe depression & Anxiety. I'm wondering how I would know if I have relapsed, or if this could be a withdrawal symptom? How can I tell?
Please help! Message me at katanawaves@gmail.com
God bless you stay strong 🙏🙏🙏🤗🤗🤗❤️❤️❤️
@@montesa9136 they took me off buspar in the hospital and put me on celexa cause that’s what they give everyone I’ll never be me again can’t sleep 😴
how do you feel now????
Lol I feel EXACTLY like this guy. It's crazy how similar we seem to feel. And notice how he barely smiles at all. Blunted affect.
I have suffered from bouts of severe depression all my life. I've been on 20 mg. of Ciprelex for 8 years. In January of 2020, I weaned off over a four month period. I'm now 4 months off & I'm in Severe depression & Anxiety. I'm wondering how I would know if I have relapsed, or if this could be a withdrawal symptom? How can I tell?
Please help! Message me at katanawaves@gmail.com
@@maryanndise345 I'm very happy for you and it serves as a motivation for others. The "funny" thing is we know what others are "observing" in us but it seems pretty clear they don't know we know about it!
Very good interview. My son has been destroyed by these drugs. A completely criminal system.
Sorry to hear that. They almost destroyed me, but I got out, not before the drugs caused a lot of damage. Doctors are mostly incompetent and full of shit. A dangerous lot.
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Thank you both for the video, the validation. Next to recovering, I want more than anything for this (psych drug withdrawal, namely benzos, for me) to become public knowledge. To not be understood and for friends and family to not even do their own research, never mind the doctors, has only added insult to injury.
Great interview, sometimes I feel this thing only happened to me but it’s a real medication induced brain damage syndrome that many are suffering.
Very enlightening video! Good god, I was on an SSNRI or SSRI for almost 20 years. Most recently, Zoloft which caused bad brain fog and anxiety. I'm now tapering off Zoloft and experiencing severe withdrawal symptoms - brain zaps, irritability, headache, diarrhea. I will beat this!!
I have to concur that the worst part is not having family believe you and instead just tell you more or less to shut up and keep taking your meds.
Yup
SO CRAZY how Family won’t believe us??? Same with me! I’ve been Abandoned for years Suffering alone in a dark room crying?
Damn
how are you now Michele
@@grv91vr23 very traumatized
@@michelebergman4336 yeah i understand me too!! :( it’s horrible.
im sorry Michelle
Did you made some progress over the years?
Sending you some love from the Netherlands
I'm so sorry. I'm in same boat. Thing is I never had to go through this, well nobody should go through this. I was dealing with anxiety and emotional stress. I choice talk therapy, which was the right thing for me. Anyways I listened to wrong person, took paxil, three days, felt bad, stopped after 3 days and felt even worse, went to hospital and they gave me Benzo and Lexapro, left 100 times worse ,my sleep was destroyed. I can't function I'm the walking dead. I was already dealing with anxiety before taking those awful pills. It's just made things worse.
Unfortunately, when someone who is 73 years old demonstrates cognitive impairmment due to Lamictal, they are thought to be demented and are told to remain on the meds as prescribed. It was not possible to withdraw from the timed released Lamictal due to the seizures w/o the proper dosages. Finally after 3 years of pleading and finding an epileptologist who agreed that we could maintain the Modified Atkins diet and wean off the Lamictal given the proper dosages. Unfortunately, the titer was too fast and the Lamictal symptoms are much increased. but now I know that the problems are not his fault and we will steer clear of doctors as much as possible. We just need as many solutions to encourage healing as possible. .
I wish you a very quick recovery
Check out Dr. Peter Breggin. He is a God send
Also I had to separate from my family, they completely turned on me after no sleep for 5 days and seizures. Nobody listened to me at all either. The isolation and the withdrawal has traumatized me.
I have suffered from bouts of severe depression all my life. I've been on 20 mg. of Ciprelex for 8 years. In January of 2020, I weaned off over a four month period. I'm now 4 months off & I'm in Severe depression & Anxiety. I'm wondering how I would know if I have relapsed, or if this could be a withdrawal symptom? How can I tell?
Please help! Message me at katanawaves@gmail.com
@@montesa9136 I truly dont know, I dont know that medication. I hope things get better for you, maybe it's both..
@@montesa9136 It must be a withdrawal. Not a relapse, I learned that with relapse you will be convinced to go back on medication !!!! Dont, I know its hard , been there but find a holistic psychiatry or functional medicine dr to help you differently. I hope you are feeling better
@@nadia5346 Thanks for your comment! It's been 5 months now & I'm still not functioning well. I do believe some people need to be medicated for life, & I'm pretty sure I'm one of them. Where I live alternative medicine is not covered & is not financially possible for most of us. Mental illness / Depression runs in our family so it's not going to go away ......
@@irenemac1545 how are you getting on now?
He is spot on. Hope and healing to all of us.
Society doesn’t want to give anybody time. So true bro. But I here you. I will give you time. I will be patient. There are compassion human beings out here like me.
Well, I have to say that it is good news to me to hear Robert say that cognitive impairment tends to recover by 5 years (MIND institute). My own cognitive impairment has been frightening. It is like my brain just melted. All of learning and memory functions were absolutely destroyed. I was worse than "Finding Dory." I could barely talk because I couldn't find the words. I could barely process any information. Hearing and eyesight impaired. At 2.5 years off, I can finally sleep 4 hours a night. I could never imagine a hell like this. I have to realign my vision for the future and let go. What good am I? What purpose can I serve? I am just surviving to see another day. I often feel like a ghost in some other reality from what "normal" people are experiencing. It is slowly improving however. Hanging on to hope!
how do you feel now?
Yeah It’s frightening when you can’t tell people what’s going on because you don’t have the words to tell them.
@@Genesis817 Thanks for asking, J Custer. I am now 41 months off clonazepam and I am feel much improved but still suffering fatigue, 5-6 hours sleep, some bouts of even less sleep, memory impairment, bouts of feeling my is brain burning, head pressure. I can't have long conversations like I could before. My mental flexibility is rigid. I am sensitive to sound and find it difficult to do a task and have someone talking to me. But overall, compared to how I was, I am improving.
@@kassi4837 So hard to find the right words that will pierce the veil of stigma, fear and misunderstanding. I have often decided to be quite blunt with people and tell them I have suffered a traumatic brain injury due to prescribed medications from my doctor (iatrogenic injury) and spread the word about benzodiazepines and other psych drugs. I have also chosen to be quiet and to act as normal as I can because I don't know how to describe it. Finding the right language can be too hard when you are suffering from this level of impairment. Plus, so many people do not want to know even if you had the right words.
@@c.taylormorgan3668 im very happy to hear you're improving. for what it's worth im praying for you
I'm so sorry you got hurt like this. I did too. My family and friends went away. They dont beleive me either. It's to heartbreaking on top of the injury. I need a reason to endure this torture I have nothing and no one
I hope you are doing ok.
I know people that went off and started taking them again. People cant seem to understand life has ups and downs and there are other ways to deal with other than taking a pill.
I am sorry you are experiencing this, Lucinda. I understand.
I believe. I was dealing with anxiety and emotional stress , but I could function, laugh, go out , clean, cook, run my errands. I had mini pay attack so I went to hospital, I asked for paxil, but told my Dr that I wasn't sure if I would take it. He said fine , went home with the prescription I ended up getting my sleep,so I called my Dr and told him that I would not be taking them. He said fine. I said I want talk therapy. Which I think that in this situation that was the best thing for me. Anymore I didn't throw medication away. Because I still was dealing with some anxiety, my husband kept insisting and insisting to take medication. I kept saying no I don't need it, I need talk therapy. I was functioning, sleeping well, eating well, cooking, cleaning. Anyways I listened to my husband took it for three days and felt odd, stopped after three days felt worse , like a depression came over me, I think it was withdrawals, went to hospital, they only gave me more medication and even Benzo, I'm horrible now , can't function, cry and cry, my sleep destroyed, don't laugh, nothing. It's horrific.
@@wednesdayschild3627 exactly that's what I was trying to say. I was doing therapy because I was dealing with anxiety and didn't want to take medication. Anyways listened to the wrong person, took it only three days, I stopped because I felt I was making a mistake, which I was . Anyways I felt sick once I stopped, rushed to hospital, explain to them what happened. They locked me up in mental ward , gave me Benzo, then Lexapro. I felt sick sick, sleep destroyed, I can't function anymore. All do to three pills ,that got the ball rolling.
I'm dealing with very many of the same things. 16 years on Klon as prescribed. About 10 months off now. Seems like nobody I've seen (docs, therapist, aprn) is aware, or understands, or believes I'm experiencing anything related to being on or going off of the Klon. I deal with tinnitus, brain zaps, constant anxiety/ electric buzz in my head, feel disconnected from the world, flatlined emotions, general constant state of agitation and fatigue, cognitive problems like lack of focus and concentration, zone out (turn into wrong entrances for stores as one example). It's a lonely road without any Good Samaritan to pick me up and believe that I'm hurting.
They dish it out like candy with no warnings and when you suffer tolerance and dose is increased ....
I believe you 💯
I can relate.
I agree, you feel a disconnected from God. Which is by far the worst thing.
It’s a long process Dave well done. I am still recovering from Protracted Acute Withdrawal syndrome (PAWS). It’s been 3.7 years and I’m doing better every year. I’ve been left with a few problems after a huge list of withdrawal symptoms over 3 years. I’ve been left with IBS, tinnitus increases 100%, ears still crackle when i swollow my food and drink. These drugs are dangerous however the lack of Doctor knowledge is the most dangerous thing I’ve ever found out. The 12 doctors I investigated have zero clue about PAWS. Thanks again for this video Dave.
how long u were taking this poisons?
did u stop ct ?
what supplements were u taking?
@@ahmedmizo6031 hello there Maha. I took 6 months to go from 90mg to 30mg. My Doctor said I would have no problems coming off the 30mg in one hit. He was so wrong and still denies this happens. The other 11 Doctors also denied it too. I went on a journey of healing. No alcohol, good food when I could eat, small amounts of walking at first. I used Cannabis products daily to get sleep so I could rest and recover. I sat in the sun a lot and drank a lot of water. It’s was a brutal 12-18 months. I got through this but still have some small issues. Good luck and be good to yourself 🙏🏻love and peace from Australia 🇦🇺
@@brendansmyth5053 thanks a lot wish u the best of health
@@neildobbs7278 Hi Neil, my doctor put me on Cymbalta 30mgs at first. Eventually, somehow I was put on 90mgs. Brutal drug to get off. It’s very well known around the world that Cymbalta is very difficult. I’m doing really well now but it’s been a long journey of healing. it’ll be 5 years for me in July. The first two years were ridiculously hard and things got better every year after that. I’m still not 100% but I do feel I have a year.
I'm now eighteen months post Klonopin withdrawl after an inital grueling thirteen month slow taper. I took Klonopin as prescribed for over seventeen years along with the myriad of other drugs I was sporadically prescribed over the years. I have been to a place far below hell and if it wasn't for my son I would have already ended this FKN nightmare many moons ago!
Know exactly what you are going through, 17 years on Kpin, super rapid taper, 15 months on from last does and I just want my life to end, I keep getting worse, virtually no windows only unending waves of misery, pain, terror and sickness. This drug destroyed my once decent life and I doubt I get out of this alive, and I am only 55 yrs old.
@@GMHG777 I see you posted this just a week ago and am sorry you're having such a hard time. Do you have some moments of relief? For me, mornings are the worst time and it lets up at night.
@@nokomismn9685 no its becoming clear I developed autonomic nueropathy in the last 7 years while taking the drug, as a result all the weird bizarre symptoms I have been battling for the last 5 years were a developing terminal neurological illness that the Kpin actually covered up to some degree, once I took it away its been a nightmare of progressive illness that will end in my death soon. A horrifying death, would have rather had terminal cancer tbh than what I am facing. There are no real good treatments and I am so fatigued and ill now I just want this over with, I am pretty certain the Kpin along with some other polydrugging by my doctors is responsible for my illness, but I will never be able to prove that and am out of time now anyway, the last 3 years of my life on this drug were nothing short of horrifyingly painful ... thanks for reaching out though. I wish you healing and A GOOD life again !
@@GMHG777 wow - brutal
I'm trying to hold on too. For my family and husband. In my religion , we believe that Jehovah God will bring a new world and he will heal the sick, those who are suffering. The gospel about Jesus when he was on earth talk about it. He cured the sick, lame, people that, I'm sure had mental problems. He raised the dead. That's all a foreshadow, of what Jehovah God will do in the near future. Bring this world into harmony and peace, a world were there will be no more death, crime , injustice, prejudice, sickness, even mental illness, no evildoers will reside,no murderer . He will resurrect all those in the memorial tombs. He knows injustice, he knows people that maybe took their lives because of extreme suffering. He will raise the dead. I'm trying to hold on for that new world. The bible speaks of the times we are living in ,times of the end. In Armageddon Jehovah God will vindicate his name. No human ruler can bring peace in earth only Jehovah God himself. I hope that he see my suffering and what happened to and all who have suffered from these manmade drugs. May he show us mercy and loving kindness.
I'm in the midst of a mirtazapine withdrawal, and I feel exactly like this guy. People need to know what these drugs are doing to people.
Same feel so much better knowing I’m not alone 🙏🤗
Hope you’re doing better 🥺
How are you now? I really hope you're recovering..
I was on mirtazapine for 10 days and although I was already very anxious, those 10 days I had 24/7 urges to kill myself by any means possible ( I took an overdose at the end of those 10 crazy days.. I didn't have these urges before the drug . Psychiatrist completely glossed over the whole episode ( no surprise there)
Unfortunately I'm now on seroquel for 4 months and It's making me more depressed and anxious..it didn't even help my sleep until recently but I've decided to taper off and quit.. the side-effects are horrible and now I have to face withdrawals but I want freedom from these horrific drugs..
I'd be really interested to know if you got off mirtazapine ( no judgement) and what if anything you take now
I have zero support or understanding from anybody for deciding to quit and that seems to be a common experience ( as if we aren't already going through hell)
I really wish there was more online support for people like us and more recent videos on this subject..
I see so many videos of youngsters on psych meds, either singing their praises or just making out like it's normal to be taking these heavy duty drugs... it's so sad .. do they have any idea what they face years from now? I doubt it..
I've learned so much from comments sections on videos.. so thankyou for yours..... Awareness is key.
@@eileendoherty2836 how are you now, Eileen? Are you still taking any psychiatric meds? I'm trying to get off them myself..it's a huge battle and lonely road.. if I ever get myself strong enough I'd like to dedicate what's left of my life to raising awareness of the inhumane practices of psychiatry and supporting its victims.
The one thing a diagnosis does is reveal just how unloving "loving" families can be.
Yes, I had to kick everybody out. Should have done that much earlier anyway. Lol. 😈
Yep a good clip again. Time IS the biggest healer.
there is nothing scarier than realizing your doctor is not only assisting with making you sick,but cannot help you when your life is in danger due to their error! i had a horrible breakdown 21/2 yrs ago, my doctor weaned me off of cipralex,which at the time were giving me headaches etc. When i say i the agony and hell i endured for a year straight,noone would believe the hospital turned me away 5 times.ive been fighting depression for 16 years but this shit here....different ball game, and the health care doesnt know what to do... they are not in control like they want us to believe. I literally dont know how i am still here in excruciating emotional pain that noone cares about!you have to have an "active plan "to be given emergency goof care where they only fill you full of drugs and send you home in 2 weeks. They even deny us that human right! seek communal help the hospital says , let the walk in drs treat you.. who usually do not specialize in mental health at all. be careful please find a doctor that actually cares. the fear i have for my future is unimaginable and of a whole union of doctors they are plain ignorant and due to ego will not pass the file to a better fitted doctor. These are our lives man, how can the mental health system be shitty like this?so many "professionals" yet everyone is getting sicker,losing life,in pain. A great big fk you to any asshle getting paid 215,000 a year to watch people suffer. damn drug dealers!
Thank goodness Robert Whitaker is doing this work... He actually understands it
77 days completely off 40 yrs of Benzo consumption...I feel ya brother!
how are you? thats a big task
Thank you for speaking so eloquently to this.
You do. You have to re-learn each task. It's unreal.
@@smilemor-phony5964 I lost a lot of memory too. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones because my husband believes me, it's still hard on him but he knows what's happening.
In the future, we will look back on these drugs and say: How could we poison our fellow human being this way? If it was up to me, everyone who prescribe this shit would get a life in prison.
LORD ESUS HELP US ALL
WOW! My story too! After 25 years of Paxil, I realize my brain has been damaged. After 8 months off - I'm struggling with rage , interrupted sleep , EXTREME lethargy. I'm not sure where to go from here. Daily living is difficult.
The ones who prescribed it knew it causes brain damage.
Please pray to God every day for help, meditation helps ( Eckhart Tolle ), I am over 25 years on different medication, last 3 years on Bupropion, I cut half my medication ...for three months now,
I hope you doing good by now. Please I want to hear how you doing after while ?
I am going through this now and its difficult. My husband does not believe me either. I'm not speaking to my family for a while now for different reasons.
What a great job you did explaining this, Dave. Wishing you continued healing.
Help benzodiazepine people! It takes years to come off,then years to recover!
So basically the drugs have the potential to cause brain damage🙄🙈
No potential, the mechanism itself is that of brain damage. The only question is whether this can be healed and how.
Similar to what i am going through as a former math student.
I just learned that Drug Withdrawal is listed in the DSM as an illness all by itself.
Just a fantastic interview! Thanks Robert Whitaker!
I’m glad you gave us hope at the end.
How are you feeling now...it must be coming up to five years by now. My antidepressant journey 33 years ago. I took my last dose six months ago. I have been on my knees in hell. Swing between absolute panic...to no motivation to the degree I am almost comatose. I am loosing weight as have no appetite. Crying hysterically for hours at a time. Unable to function in any real capacity. I can't even remember all the issues. I hope you are much improved my friend you are a beacon of light to do many of us going through the process.
Yes! I'm losing weight too, just no appetite!
Thank you for making this video 😊
Thank you so much for this video!
This is really a nice exchange
God bless you, Dave. Thank you for sharing your story.
Thank you Dave, you gave me hope
What happened to inform consent
Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge!
I can so relate to everything said. Good luck to you and thank you for sharing, you are not alone x
Wish you a full recovery ❤
Same here 2 Ivy Leagues masters degree and life destroyed , exact exact exact same story , I want to talk to this guy !
love this video this video will give a lot of people hope I felt better after watching this thank you
Good luck, Dave.
It's a tough gambit no matter what. Thanks!
4:02 explains how ive felt for years perfectly!!
7+ years off. Still totally debilitated.
Explain this.
I'm sorry to hear this. Have you done anything to detox your body?
Lynne Dunlap
Please ask people before offering health advice. I’m not open to health advice from strangers on the internet for more reasons than I can communicate.
All you need to know is I was injured by a benzo taken as prescribed. I’ve done my best to survive something unendurable. I’m not your patient, a project or a dartboard for people (who are not in my body) to throw ideas at.
When you offer unsolicited health suggestions instead of simply showing compassion it feels like gaslighting. You are putting me in the position of having to prove to you I’ve done enough to pull myself out of this unimaginable brain injury.
I have done enough. And I don’t need to prove that to you or anyone else. Ask for consent to offer health advice.
@@sea_hous relax, it was just a question. Smh.
@@sea_hous You are doing too much. Guaranteed you aren't debilitated anymore but writing this for attention. Either that, or you are on other drugs. Negative Nancy.
It would be interesting to interview Dave now for an update on who he is doing.
I lost my teeth tapering off clonazepam, 23 years taken as prescribed.
Do you mean,they damage the teeth as well....?
@@NoName-pu5ls why you took for so long?can you tell about the side effects of your anti phsycotics and their name?
@@NoName-pu5ls there are lots of videos about CBD OIL ...REALLY BENEGICIAL...PHSYCITRIC DTUGS ARE CHEMICAL
@@NoName-pu5ls Are you suffered from sczophernia? ...Please reply ..also can you tell please, did you take any anti-phsycotics?
Exactly my experience. Only I have EDS and and proof of collagen tearing from Probably side effects of the psychiatric meds and the withdrawal. I’m glad this is getting attention. People are suffering in silence And it’s not OK.
“Give me time.” ❤
Can relate but with many many more symptoms. I am terrified 24/7 PTSD too.
how are you now Donna
Story of my life 😓
I feel the same. It is everyday harder to sit infront of computer, and hard to concentrate long term, and no more motivation after depression and drugs. I used cipralex and cipram...
Thank you so much Robert Whitaker and Dave for making this video. I talk with people who do not believe in p$ychiatry as it is being practiced today. I just want Dave to know he is not
alone. My heart goes out to those who trusted the doctors who led them to use these prescribed chemicals.
I just found mee….can you guys pls bring this guy again on channel for an update, i mean it ll be a greatest hope for ppl like us❤ may god bless him
Glad to.know where on the same time line w same issues WHERE NOT CRAZY !!!
FIVE YEAR recovery sounds like such a long time. On the other hand, five years may only be a small portion of life.
"meds your doctor is your drug dealer
people who has been off 7 years are saying 'I'm still feeling improvement' ; a year and a half is nothing
terrifying absolutely harrowing to think about the long term damage these meds do
My brain is like that without drugs- I think years of corporate quality workplace mobbing did it.
I hope to find myself once more.
I believe you. They don't believe me either. It is absolutely fascinating how hard core people are to tow the party line and believe in the system. They have no room for another belief system. It's surreal. My brain injury includes .5mgs of Risperidone for 5 years. Now I am down to .3mgs and have to reduce 10% every month to make any progress.
How r u now
Why didn't my psychiatrist tell me this?!
Because they are ignorant and don't listen to patient experience; Only what big pharma tell them
Because then you didnt take his meds
I'd love to know how this guy is now ❤
Does Dave have a youtube channel? I really want to follow his progress
so I am coming off clozapine after 15 years. have not slept in a month. maybe 5 hours. if anyone has any ideas for me please let me know thank you and god bless
Scott, any updates or advice? My son is on clozapine as well. Planning on tapering soon.
I’m being tortured to death with physical pains and burning skin, can’t walk. I hope i can hold on and survive somehow :(
You have an extremely low B12 at the tissue level. My brother had the same symptoms. Have a doctor order a methylmalonic acid test. This will show your B12 tissue level. If the acid is high, it means low B12 at tissue.A regular B12 blood test can show normal while it's low at the tissue. Good luck
@@guncontrolisusingbothhands2331 thank you very much i will ask for that right away
I hope its not too late after 20 months and that my body is damaged by this low level
@@grv91vr23 You're welcome my friend. Once your B12 levels are restored to normal, the body will start healing the damage to the nerve sheaths. My brother went undiagnosed for almost ten years and he's doing fine now. God Bless
@@guncontrolisusingbothhands2331 great story
Very happy for your brother!
Thanks for letting me know
@@guncontrolisusingbothhands2331 had he also troubles after an antidepressant?
My psychiatrist is more concerned about me refusing to continue taking quetiapine, even wanting to add a 2nd antipsychotic, then concerned about the fact that I have been starving myself to lose some of the weight the quetiapine caused me to gain.
I wonder if we could get an update on this guy.
The first tenet in the business of providing healthcare is to make a profit. If a good health outcome happens also, that’s even better, but not necessary. Say anything to the patient to get their money. Use their ignorance and trust to take as much money from them as possible. Enjoy your life and never think about them again. They are only there to deliver money to you when you want it.
How is he now? I’ve been severely damaged by taking psych meds for almost 20 years. I’m not completely off them either, but I’ve lost all hope that it will ever get better.
I am nearly 7 months off benzos which was the last pharma psychotropic poison i got off. I feel so alone
Questions: Did he say indirectly he think / learn better while on Benzodiazepines ? After getting off of Benzodiazepines he is now not thinking / learning accordingly due to withdrawal effects? What was his thinking / learning skills like before taking Benzodiazepines? Did Benzodiazepines help or hurt while taking?
He was admitted to MIT with dual masters degrees in engineering and was a graduate of the Naval Academy BEFORE he ever took any meds. He didn't need help in that area at all. He is saying his brain has been negatively affected from taking them and from the withdrawal effects.
The worst loss is one's credibility.
Same here nobody in my family - my Mom , Bro don’t get it , I can’t believe the similarities
Thank you both for this extremely important conversation it really is to the heart of the issue and why we need to be educating family members more than even the people that are taking the drugs because people need sports systems as they come off the tracks it’s hard enough to do it alone. There’s only one question I have for Robert Whitaker which is if these drugs to cause chemical and dependence why can’t we say that they are similar to opioids in this way I’m confused I understand that these drugs are addictive. The people that are taking them or chemically dependent but the drugs themselves are addictive are they not or am I wrong please help me understand.
Hi MK. I believe our outreach team member Nicole wrote you an email about the difference between addiction and dependence recently. I would refer back to that and follow up with the links she provided you.
How is Dave now?
If I did my math correctly and round up to 2018, then I would imply this interview was made 4 years ago, correct? It would be nice to hear to what degree his health improved to this day (sorry for my english) and on which meds he was on. Solely Benzo?