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I love the idea of built-in storage. Living and riding in Canada in the winter, studded tires are a must, snow rarely comes without ice!
I have a TPU tube, a CO2 inflator+Cart, dynaplugs, a multitool, tire lever in my Domane Gen4 downtube. All of this rolls into a bag that easily slides into the tube. No saddle bag. It's way quicker to get to than a saddle bag -- it's a flip of a lever and a big panel drops out with the bottle cage attached. Not having doggy balls on your saddle is underrated
Long Teng, a Chinese OEM that makes bikes for Argon 18, is releasing an all road bike with down tube storage. I'm riding one of their older frames without storage. It's a cool feature if you don't pay extra for it. For drug smuggling it would be amazing.
Or just casual drug transportation.
I ride a 47 cm Trek Domane SL5. I absolutely could not easily carry my spare kit without my downtube storage. The frame is TINY (so no frame bags fit without losing water), there's relatively minimal clearance above the tire (so no saddle bag). I do have a small handlebar bag, but it holds medical supplies + a snack, so I avoid jamming a bunch of crap in there for when I need my meds mid-ride. I don't want to be fumbling through a tube, CO2, etc., on the large majority of my rides when I take my meds. I also keep emergency medication in there that someone other than me needs to be able to quickly find and administer. So, yeah, downtube storage 100% worth it in my case! I willing to accept I'm an edge case, but the clean look of having a completely hidden flat kit + tools is *chef's kiss*.
I don't buy bikes that come without internal storage anymore. My gravel (Orbea Terra), XC and AM bikes have downtube storage and I get spare tubes, pumps, CO2 and complete mini tools in there. It's always with me, no weight on the body / more space for nutrition and other things in the pockets, no bags are dangling on the bike, clean looks... the list goes on and on. It's underrated if you ask me 👍.
totally. underrated
On mtb, you can’t mount a saddle bag as well without fear of the wheel hitting it when it compresses.
I disagree with storage being overrated. I have it on my diverge and have found what used to go in a saddle bag (tube, levers, tool, and even pump) go into the frame, and touch wood, I have never needed them in over 2000 miles of tubeless cycling. Then, I have a small frame bag or handlebar bag, and into that goes what would have gone in my jersey pockets in years gone by (rain jacket, snacks, phone, tubeless plugs) which means my jersey is empty and that feeling, is hugely underrated! All of this also to say, that on days where I just want to take my phone, I go 'bagless' and the bike looks so much cleaner than if I had a saddle bag of spares....
I spoke to a mechanic that started noticing stress cracks on Trek Domane's with the built-in storage, and the customer says it's never been in an accident.
No mention of that in the Domane owners groups. I have two and haven’t had any problems.
I've got a Checkpoint, and a Top Fuel, no issues with either. Both have the storage.
Also have a Domane and have never seen or heard of those issues
I have a mate whose brother knows a guy who used to work with a World Tour mechanic but before that was a long distance cyclist and apparently he said that in frame storage is a disaster waiting to happen if you pack your gels first and they explode under pressure and cause corrosion in your bottom bracket, but only if you’re producing greater than four watts per kilo ftp.
@@oceanzmat yea keep the gels out of there
I love the downtube storage on my Trek Domane. I have the Bontrager bits tool, small pump, tire repair, and some cash in it and no bags on my bike.
Where I live there is quite a lot of snow (Norway, close to Oslo). For perfect cold and snowy winter conditions you might not need studded tires, but that is rarely the case. Most days are close to unrideable without studded tires during the winter. I've never heard of anyone (who rides regularly outside during the winter) ride through the winter without studded tires where I live.
Putting a hole in a tube makes a weak point. You'll have to add strength around the hole (i.e. storage space) to maintain the strength and stiffness. If you have internal storage for the same strength and/or stiffness then it has to be heavier. And that's before you get into the stress raisers leading to fatigue cracks.
studded tyres are the BEST, for a normal MN winter! but this year, no bikes got spiked! just Teravail Honcho 650Bs on the karate monkey. Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro's are the normal go-to for the winter commute and joy-rides. BUT this time around it was MILD indeed... THANK YOU El Niño!!!!
Lower centre of gravity!!! Having stuff in the down tube(lower on the bike) can reduce swinging/swaying weight when pedalling off the saddle!!! Plus as someone that cycles in a place where the roads are good and rarely get flat tire or mechanical issue(touch wood). I think storing tools and stuff in the bike frame is a great idea! As it keeps the bike looking smart, clean and keep us away from nasty saddle bags.
The only bag i want in my bike would be one to keep the phone, wallet, keys and gels8or similar products) Down tube storage is great imo
Spending all that money on a lightweight bike, just to stuff it full of heavy things, feels really weird to me.
Just put some heavy shoes on then 😅 or buy a steel bike…
I doubled-wrapped bar tape on the tops when I had a wrist injury a long time ago. It was so nice that I kept doing it. It obviously starts thick, but it quickly compresses somewhat
Built in frame storage is a nice quality of life improvement, and would be difficult to give up.
I love the internal storage on my 2020 Trek Domane, not a high end bike, it's so practical, underrated
Definitely agree on the bar tape, especially since I wear padded gloves and spend most of my hours on the hoods. Decent, affordable cork tape does the job.
Frame storage on my Trek Domane is pretty nice, keep a small tool roll and tube in there that I just don’t have to think about.
Love the frame storage in my stumpy and diverge bikes.
Regarding bar tape I totally agree, until I started using reusable, washable bar tape (by Grepp - probably other brands available too) - it costs a bit more, but it's basically a one-time purchase and then it can be washed a reused a bunch.
1.6 mm sounds pretty thin and I personally prefer anywhere between 2.3 - 2.5 mm, but if it can last a few seasons, it does sound more cost-effective.
bought some last year. yes they are thin but to the point about being on the hoods 90% of the time i’m dialed in on my fit so my palm/heel don’t get to bad.
just took them off last weekend and threw into washer on delicate. ends came out a bit frayed so cut some new 45 angled and rewrapped bars. the silicone still grabs and they look just as new 🎉
Lol I’ve reused my current bar tape twice.
It's roughly as quick for me to open my down tube and pull out the bag as it is for me to remove the saddle bag and open it.
Storage OVERRATED?!?!? No absolutly not, they are great, underrated
Coming from a mostly hockey (field) and tennis background I do not get how Trash Tier the majority of bar tape is.
The general MAZON cushion grip is my go to. Supercaz gets similar grippiness, but lifespan and cushioning isn't close.
If you want white bar tape, Fizik is the only choice - it doesn't stain and it stays white.
The area of the heel of the hand below the little finger is called the Hypothenar Eminence 😊
Trek Checkpoint gravel bike has the downtube storage, too. I have it for 2 years, it is good place to stash an emergency inner tube...
Absolutely loved my storage on my Domane. Flat pack in the down tube, nice and clean.
I have the new Canyon Grail and I love the inner storage. And yes, I don’t like packed pockets and extra bags on my bike. I like things neat. 😊
I got studded tyres on an old almost completely worn down pair of rim brake wheels. Almost no snow here in Southern Germany anymore though, every winter seems to be warmer than the previous one.
as someone who cycled through a couple of Midwestern winters on studded tires, I found they are completely useless on ice, at least in below -10C. The studs are not pointy enough and the weight of a bike+rider is not enough to drive the spikes into ice. on the contrary, the metal of studs goes over ice like skates leading to, sometimes, very dramatic falls.
What studs ARE great for is cycling in just below 0C conditions when the ice is not so hard, or on hard compacted snow. Overall, I agree they might be a great solution for a couple of weeks of mild UK winter.
Which failed tires did you have? I never had issues with Schwalbe Marathon winter. I am in Finland and I heard a Finnish company designed them for Schwalbe. Few places have longer winters than Finland.
@@JanneRasanen2 interesting. I was running Schwalbe Marathon winter. I even changed the studs for new ones in hope that it will improve something, but no. Still, I was more than happy to use them throughout the winter season, and only needed to pay extra attention at times. Later I exchanged my front one for a no-name with a more aggressive thread (and studs) and it helped. Maybe my experience is an outlier, also because i am rather lightweight. great to hear you have no issues with this model!
In Australia it’s a raincoat in summer and gillet in winter
Regarding having pressure points on the hands when riding on the hoods: thats why I can never go back from aero bars! My hands just go numb so quickly on round ones... ^^
I lived in Alaska for 8 years, and studded tires are the shizz. They are expensive, but I only had one pair the whole time I lived there. The snow and ice don't wear the studs down, the pavement and blacktop does. Also, they're a lot cheaper than a broken collerbone.
Studded tyres are essential in Norway if you wanna ride in winter! Must have!
And costs like 30€ at Biltema (granted it's kinda shit ones but they work), not as expensive as this video could make you belive.
They also sell regular tires for €10 :D
Live in Sweden, can confirm that the biltema winter tyres do work, but are shit.
But 'works' is what you need in 5-10cm of snow.
A few recommendations on the bar tape would have been appreciated guys 👍🏻
No spares in my pocket, no ugly saddle bag internal storage ftw.
I don't know anyone who doesn't ride without any spares..
Imagine you bought a car and you had to buy something else to store your spare tire.
Bikes are not cars and that's why we ride them.
a more accurate comparison would be a motorcycle. Most motorcycles you have to buy your storage.
Also, many cars nowadays are sold without a spare because there's no place to put it.
I ride tubeless with no emergency tubes most of the time. That's because there is nowhere on my local trail system that is too far from the central trailhead where I park my car. If I'm somewhere else and doing a long ride, then I bring along more stuff than will fit in the downtube. So I use a backpack that has a compartment that keeps spare parts and tools all together and separate from food, water, and clothing. Oh, I know it's not the fashion these days, but I care about function and care not one iota about fashion.
I think internal storage is on the new Giant Revolt carbon frame
Why can’t you guys look into adding closed captioning to make your content accessible like before? 😢
I'm in Canada and ride all year. I've never had studded tyres. My bicycle takes 26 x 1 3/8" tyres and I have never had any trouble with slip-sliding.
Either you don't ride in winter conditions or the roads in your area get cleaned VERY well, ..
It's impossible NOT to slip eventually otherwise.
Every working day of my life, through whatever Ontari-ari-ari-o wants to throw at me. No problem. These old rattletrap wrecks love to GO! No grief in foul weather whatsoever. @@tonycaluda1868
Spiked tyres, Schwalbe Winter tyre or Continental Contact Spike for snowy conditions. Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro for ice.
What about the burgh tape with the space invaders on? My stock tape is starting to gap and I thought the 8 bit design would look ace (though sadly it's out of stock everywhere 😢) keep up the great content btw cheers 🍻
These chats with Nick are a goldmine of useful tips: my favourites so far are the BBB bar tape and Fenwick chain lube 👍
Diverge Comp and higher spec Diverge have the SWAT storage, think it was Spesh who pioneered it, it's a good idea
Studded tires are the best. Very expensive but worth it
Studded tires are dangerous unless you are on ice! On concrete or asphalt, they slip, just like studded shoes do.
I never had problems grip wise on a town bike with Schwalbe Marathon Winter. Neither does my friend who I sold the bike to. He drives all year round for years now without issues. The studs have not suffered.
Bar Tape, I just want more cute colours, like purples, pinks, candy style colours. Supercaz is nice but it's very expensive, Fizik used to make some of the best tape but now it's hard to get.
Studded tyres are good, if you can have them permanently put on a spare set of wheels. Studded tyres are useful in snowy conditions, ice hides under the snow.
Internal storage is Great - but so many customers focus on that and loose focus of the rest of the bike. Oooooh shiny thing. me likey, me wants it.
I have a spec Diverge with the SWAT box. If bloody brilliant. Keeps bike neat and when it’s muddy and you get a flat your saddle bag isn’t covered in shit. And there’s room for a gilet. Your opinion of it being under rated is wrong. 😂
What you talking about? cork tape is the worst!
BBB gravel ribbon, best tape hands down! I think I can live without the weight and ugliness of anthing that is Redshit! Girvin came up with that idea many years ago, and that was shite, too!
I needed a chain breaker once in 5 years
Check bike regularly then you dont need the junk
What do you think of Fidlock water bottles? Overrated or Underrated? I think they are underrated. I just converted to Fidlock and I am a believer. A bit pricey and a few other downsides but to me its worth the cost. Thoughts?
Overrated. As a mountain biker who rides old-school mountain trails, I don't need a quick release water bottle. If I'm thirsty, I stop to drink.
its the likelihood of the lid mechanism breaking that puts me off frame storage… they all look like a flimsy weak point
sorry hard disagree on the bar tape thing. but not for performance reasons. it's fashion.
Underated , a chauffeur
I use a camelback on my mtb
I like a battery in my frame 😊
Cork tape is the best.
Any bikes for tryhard "Pro" beyond $2000
Use gel gloves
Once I got my saddle position dialed in I no longer need padded gloves. For me they’re just for grip and fall protection.
Overrated - Any bike over 3k??
I would imagine the 'door' of the built in storage would become loose after time and start to rattle and get really annoying
Bit too much grease.
If the integrity of the frame is not compromised by a hole for storage then the frame is built too heavy in the first place. So storage = fail.
stupid... or just the space around the storage has been specifically reinforced and that's it
Which is why there are engineers
Global warming 🤬
Snooty Brits reviewing expensive bike tech: Overrated
Overrated: Drop bars.
Fuck this guys opinion lmao
Lets take my light bike and load it up with stuff.
Not for me.