Its pricy. But it will last decades. You can also get great deals on used Roland stuff. As long as its not obviously abused, used Roland gear is still reliable.
$8k is just too much for something that can only work with electricity in my opinion. I have a Pearl that is over 20 years old and I can buy all kinds of gear for it. But I can also gig with it anywhere and anytime. There comes a point where the e-drum just ain’t worth it and I love my e-drums.
@@KeithronPowell I agree. But Ive seen used td30s for $2500. Id take that over a Strike Pro anyday. I bought my td10 used for$750 in great condition. Put tons of upgrades in it and still well under Strike prices.
@@johndef5075where would a good place be to look for used ? I have been on local pages with no luck in my area. Just eyeballing kit suggestions for adult beginner. Any tips or suggestions on kits is appreciated. Hope I didn’t bother. Have a good day
I'm not a professional drummer but I am more than a hobbyist. So, for me, I will not go over $1,500.00. I think Roland's prices are soooooo cray-cray. And these acoustic shell e-kits are just idiotic. Hell, I could buy a cheap drum kit and put electronic triggers in it for far much less money. But, if someone with unlimited $$$$ wants to buy those expensive kits, let them at it.
Exactly… I can’t understand why they need the shell since the sound isn’t coming from that. I can’t understand why we won’t say no… maybe I need to play on another one but I wasn’t that impressed enough to buy.
Hello @DrummerGrrrl do you have any suggestions for beginner adult ma’am? I’m looking for a set acoustic or electric that’s going to be ok for awhile and I can grow with. I got stick suggestion of 5b so I’m picking a pad & stick set up today. Thank you in advance.
Just bought the newly updated Alesis MD 10 MK II Pro kit... To me, hands down is the best electronic drum set for the money... !!!! I just love it... !!! ❤️
@@KeithronPowell To tell you the truth Keith I was right on the edge of getting the Simmons 1250 but the boom stands for the symbols turned me away and that's the reason why I bought the Alesis DM 10 MK II Pro... Simmons needs to hear this so that they can improve upon their kit and make it better.
E drums mostly come with their hardware and cymbals. Playing live, just plug into the PA. Compare that to a $3000 acoustic set which you’d have to spend minimum another $3000 to get hardware, quality cymbals, mics, cables, stands plus percussion accessories
E-drums are from $250-$8999 and even above now. How much is too much? The shells and stands on the higher end e drums are as rugged as acoustic drums. Upper end e drums are priced comparatively to them. So…. At what point is it over priced?
That is a good question! How much is too much for any set of drums, acoustic or electronic? A beginner can do well spending $300 in either kit. A more advanced drummer who plays out will pay, say, $2-3000 for a nice sounding and aesthetically pleasing kit including all cymbals, mics, mic stands, cables etc. So $2-3000 is the upper price point for this drummer when considering e drums. A touring pro may easily spend over $5000 on their acoustic set and this is the price point for them- Wow!
Think of what kind of drums you could buy with an $8000 budget. Actually, the Roland VAD706 is now $9000. I seriously doubt that the shells are anything better than an entry level acoustic kit. And why would they be? They are just for looks. I play V-Drums in my home studio using EzDrummer as a VST, but I only paid about $1000 for a TD-11 back in the day.
Actually, the drums and cymbals can look like anything as long as they can be played. I think electronic drums can be molded into a lot of different ideas and they will eventually replace acoustics. The thing is thinking outside of the box and not trying to make them acoustic looking. Also wonder if anyone has taken the electronic shells and put a pearl or sparkle wrap on them. I just bought the Simmons SD1250 and getting them tomorrow.
I love your videos. You make perfect sense to me. I have been gigging and recording with electronic drums for years. Technology has come a very long way. The ability to adjust volume and get the sound you want is wonderful. Having said that. Cosmetics are a great thing as far as a live setting but not worth the amount of extra money it takes to do that. My only beef with electronic drums is the bass drum pads. I just wished that the lower to mid range kits would have larger bass drums. Keep up the good work bro.
It seems electric drums have come a long way. Even top rated drummers ( Neil Pert, Alex van Halen) use them or a mixture anyway, so I guess if you are a touring drummer the looks of an acustic set show better on stage and most won't even know they are electric. 8 thousand dollars is way to much for me but I play in my house with a dog as my audience lol. So I don't know either
Been looking at 2 different sets. The SD1250 and the Roland TD17KVX. Leaning towards the Roland due to the module but you make the sd12500 seem so appealing. Have you tried out the TD17KVX? Uses would be recording, practicing and live jamming. Thanks for the vids man!
Hey Keith, firstly thanks for your terrific channel, it’s very informative and entertaining! I’ve always embraced electronic drums since the 80’s, whether part of my acoustic kit or a standalone electronic setup. Compared to the early Simmons SDS5 (remember the riot shield surface?), the new kits are brilliant to play as far as being comfortable to hit for long periods. But new technology comes at a price. For me to be able to afford a kit, I have to look second hand to save money. The “sweet spot” for me is good quality and sounds, plus reliability, and the cosmetics are a personal opinion depending if you’re on stage or practicing at home. Keep the videos coming, cheers!
I just don’t like electrical drums.It’s too fake.my church bought one ,and while rehearsing the drummer was adjusting the high hat, because I kept telling him it’s fake.after rehearsal I realized that,when this thing is off, it’s just a kid toy.anything over 1k is too much for me
Its pricy. But it will last decades. You can also get great deals on used Roland stuff. As long as its not obviously abused, used Roland gear is still reliable.
$8k is just too much for something that can only work with electricity in my opinion. I have a Pearl that is over 20 years old and I can buy all kinds of gear for it. But I can also gig with it anywhere and anytime. There comes a point where the e-drum just ain’t worth it and I love my e-drums.
@@KeithronPowell I agree. But Ive seen used td30s for $2500. Id take that over a Strike Pro anyday. I bought my td10 used for$750 in great condition. Put tons of upgrades in it and still well under Strike prices.
@@johndef5075where would a good place be to look for used ? I have been on local pages with no luck in my area. Just eyeballing kit suggestions for adult beginner. Any tips or suggestions on kits is appreciated. Hope I didn’t bother. Have a good day
I'm not a professional drummer but I am more than a hobbyist. So, for me, I will not go over $1,500.00. I think Roland's prices are soooooo cray-cray. And these acoustic shell e-kits are just idiotic. Hell, I could buy a cheap drum kit and put electronic triggers in it for far much less money. But, if someone with unlimited $$$$ wants to buy those expensive kits, let them at it.
Exactly… I can’t understand why they need the shell since the sound isn’t coming from that. I can’t understand why we won’t say no… maybe I need to play on another one but I wasn’t that impressed enough to buy.
Hello @DrummerGrrrl do you have any suggestions for beginner adult ma’am? I’m looking for a set acoustic or electric that’s going to be ok for awhile and I can grow with. I got stick suggestion of 5b so I’m picking a pad & stick set up today. Thank you in advance.
Great breakdown and information for a newbie. Appreciate the content sir.
Just bought the newly updated Alesis MD 10 MK II Pro kit... To me, hands down is the best electronic drum set for the money... !!!! I just love it... !!! ❤️
Congrats
@@KeithronPowell To tell you the truth Keith I was right on the edge of getting the Simmons 1250 but the boom stands for the symbols turned me away and that's the reason why I bought the Alesis DM 10 MK II Pro...
Simmons needs to hear this so that they can improve upon their kit and make it better.
E drums mostly come with their hardware and cymbals. Playing live, just plug into the PA. Compare that to a $3000 acoustic set which you’d have to spend minimum another $3000 to get hardware, quality cymbals, mics, cables, stands plus percussion accessories
E-drums are from $250-$8999 and even above now. How much is too much? The shells and stands on the higher end e drums are as rugged as acoustic drums. Upper end e drums are priced comparatively to them. So…. At what point is it over priced?
That is a good question! How much is too much for any set of drums, acoustic or electronic? A beginner can do well spending $300 in either kit. A more advanced drummer who plays out will pay, say, $2-3000 for a nice sounding and aesthetically pleasing kit including all cymbals, mics, mic stands, cables etc. So $2-3000 is the upper price point for this drummer when considering e drums. A touring pro may easily spend over $5000 on their acoustic set and this is the price point for them- Wow!
Think of what kind of drums you could buy with an $8000 budget. Actually, the Roland VAD706 is now $9000. I seriously doubt that the shells are anything better than an entry level acoustic kit. And why would they be? They are just for looks. I play V-Drums in my home studio using EzDrummer as a VST, but I only paid about $1000 for a TD-11 back in the day.
Right! Exactly!
Actually, the drums and cymbals can look like anything as long as they can be played. I think electronic drums can be molded into a lot of different ideas and they will eventually replace acoustics. The thing is thinking outside of the box and not trying to make them acoustic looking. Also wonder if anyone has taken the electronic shells and put a pearl or sparkle wrap on them. I just bought the Simmons SD1250 and getting them tomorrow.
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I love your videos. You make perfect sense to me. I have been gigging and recording with electronic drums for years. Technology has come a very long way. The ability to adjust volume and get the sound you want is wonderful. Having said that. Cosmetics are a great thing as far as a live setting but not worth the amount of extra money it takes to do that. My only beef with electronic drums is the bass drum pads. I just wished that the lower to mid range kits would have larger bass drums. Keep up the good work bro.
Thanks bro.
It seems electric drums have come a long way. Even top rated drummers ( Neil Pert, Alex van Halen) use them or a mixture anyway, so I guess if you are a touring drummer the looks of an acustic set show better on stage and most won't even know they are electric. 8 thousand dollars is way to much for me but I play in my house with a dog as my audience lol. So I don't know either
The perfect audience!
Been looking at 2 different sets. The SD1250 and the Roland TD17KVX. Leaning towards the Roland due to the module but you make the sd12500 seem so appealing. Have you tried out the TD17KVX? Uses would be recording, practicing and live jamming. Thanks for the vids man!
Haven’t had the opportunity to test it out
The cymbals and hi hat on the kvx are nice. Looks like they are on sale now. Theres a newer version coming out.
Hey Keith, firstly thanks for your terrific channel, it’s very informative and entertaining!
I’ve always embraced electronic drums since the 80’s, whether part of my acoustic kit or a standalone electronic setup. Compared to the early Simmons SDS5 (remember the riot shield surface?), the new kits are brilliant to play as far as being comfortable to hit for long periods. But new technology comes at a price. For me to be able to afford a kit, I have to look second hand to save money. The “sweet spot” for me is good quality and sounds, plus reliability, and the cosmetics are a personal opinion depending if you’re on stage or practicing at home.
Keep the videos coming, cheers!
Thanks and I agree with what you’ve said. Stage and practice are two different things.
I just don’t like electrical drums.It’s too fake.my church bought one ,and while rehearsing the drummer was adjusting the high hat, because I kept telling him it’s fake.after rehearsal I realized that,when this thing is off, it’s just a kid toy.anything over 1k is too much for me
It can work for a church setting but the problem is understanding EQ and loud monitors for the drummer. The wrong drum patch will sound fake.
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