8 Pre-Internet Video Games That Desperately Needed A Patch
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8 NPCs that deserve their own game
Hmm, good idea
Any examples
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There's an NPC in New Haven in the first Borderlands that just says "Welcome to Hell." He doesn't do anything else, but I love him for it
Akira Nishikiyama from Yakuza, making his rise from 1995 to 2005 playable
@@eliotshoffner if only you had someone like that in Vietnam with
"WeLlCoMe tO ThE RiCe FiElDs"
Lord Of The Rings: War in the North. Fun coop hack and slash rpg-esque game that remains broken on PS3 with regularly corrupted saves. It's a shame because you can't buy it on steam anymore since the game makers lost the license. It's VERY difficult to find a slit screen coop game like it.
Beating lion king on SNES is one of my crowning video game achievements. Got it when I was like 6 and beat it when I was 17. That was a memorable sick day off from school!
Not as hard as people are making out. Hard by today's standards yes but not hard against other games of the time
@@RedDev1l757 Certainly not as hard as Toy Story on SNES. I still never beat that one lol
With jak x there is an auto save issue with the original release disks (black cover). The greatest hits versions of games are usually "patched" as that version of jak x does not have that issue.
I'm just do glad I had a normal ps2
Tues Your Own Adventure has been an institution within my week and I just wanted to say thank you Jules, James, and everyone else in the past like Oasley too. The work and effort you all have and continue to put in significantly brighten our days.
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8 NPCs that were secretly other NPCs
Like the malkavian sisters in vampire the masquerade
Love you jules! You and the whole whatculture team!
Hi Jules, as a game developer myself. The Wipeout-Xl bug is just incompetence of the developer. They forgot to implement a piece of code that normally makes sure that the speed in videogames is the same across the board. So regardless of your actual processing speed of your hardware any game should run at a fixed speed, because otherwise it causes problems like you mentioned with Wipeout. In unity for example when calculating the speed for something we use a multiplier of Time.deltaTime. This just makes sure that it won't use the actual capable speed of your computer but the speed that the developers want to use. Now with a console videogame this problem might not be noticeable because they should all run on the same hardware, but even then it is necessary because you never know if the chipset gets upgraded in future versions of a console.
There were many games like this. I forget the program, but there was an app you'd run which would slow down any program it launched.
I remember playing an old D&D game on PC that had this same problem. There was one area that had a timer, and you had to get through it before the timer ran out or you lost instantly. The timer was based on the clock speed of the processor it was programmed on, and so with a faster computer, the timer could burn through 20 minutes in less than a second.
MoSlo, I think it was called.
10 hidden gems that deserve a second chance. Like Phantom Dust
Phantom Dust is one of the worst games I've ever played, and it did get a second chance with backwards compatibility with Xbox 1/Series.
I absolutely love phantom dust. Still play it on my Xbox one.
8 videos games that were rip offs and did the game mechanics just as good if not better.💪🏾
Character deaths you can avoid that change the story.
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The two examples I could think of were making it so that hitting objects with attacks didn't drop your health in Comix Zone. And in Sonic 2, when you plug it into Sonic and Knuckles, fix the issue with Knuckle's jump height where he couldn't hit the only weak point on the final boss.
Man, I could listen to you talk about Jak X all day. To this day it’s still my quickest path to guaranteed fun. Until I lose patience and start slipping and spinning on the sewer level. Never bring an waterslide tube to a car fight.
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Just have to add Enter the Matrix to this list. There was literally a part that you couldn't get past because the game would freeze at a certain part unless you turned off the sound effects. I returned 4 copies until my local Meijer finally believed me that it was a broken game.
Didn't have that issue.
I beat that game multiple times on GameCube, and remember hearing about these problems, but I guess I was lucky enough not to have this happen
@@the-engneer it was a Playstation bug
@@kenjohns1982 I kinda figured it was a PlayStation, or Xbox thing. Seems like I got lucky with the GameCube for the one and only time LoL
Best moments where you get your first weapon. The "its dangerous to go alone, take this" moments
So early the internet hasn't gotten patched yet
Top Ten Bosses Jules can defeat if he was magically sucked into a video game.
Back when Ben and Adam were on WhatCulture they would do parody list like this but they don’t do these like dat anymore
8 best simulator games
My recommendation for next week’s episode:
“Modern games that are drastically different than their original counterparts.”
Imagine the list comparing things like Ghost Recon Breakpoint to old Ghost Recon Jungle Storm on the PS2.
To complete the Lion King on SNES, my console stayed on for days. My whole family was in on it. The fear of a thunderstorm knocking out the power or accidentally unplugging the game...
8 Tuesdays that Jules put a smile on my face 😁 stay golden chum!
10 games which would've been better with a turn based fighting system
(for example an action game which was rather slow paced and boring, so a turn based system would've actually giving it depth)
Name 10 please
Good day everyone! Hope all is well for all. Hi Jules and James. Thank you for the smiles and laughs you guys give us
Top 8 best levels in fps games
Played LoZ for decades and didn't know about a 2nd shovel. Once I bought it, I never returned until I could get the bow. The only glitches I used were the bomb arrow and the screen skip.
Games that were terrible at launch.. but are now masterpieces
Retro edition:
Best video game manuals that shipped with the game
Jules is the best what culture member, hes funny af 😂
Especially when he thinks Capcom made The Lion King.
This is as stupid at Triple Jump claiming Virtua Fighter was the first polygon based arcade game.
WIP3OUT .... Awesome memories!!! Loved the setting and the designs and the thumping music!!! WHo could forget launching into a track with Firestarter by the Prodigy pumping in the background Not my Mum for one! Hahaha tuned the volume way up!
Hearing people talk about Jak X is such a walk down memory lane for me. Not only because I loved the game to death, but I have vivid memories of my Mum coming home from a stressful day at work, booting up our PS2, and playing it as a means to destress.
And as for a new entry: Games where the sequels/spinoffs were better received
Suggestion: abilities in games you stupidly lost in the sequel.
You know how it is. Very often in a sequel they start you back at close to square one. But sometimes the ability you lose is really stupid
Like in horizon zero dawn, I could whistle but 6 months later in forbidden west… I can’t? Like did she forget how? At least in narrative terms, it’s stupid you lost the ability. If there’s an explanation, I missed it
The E.T. Graveyard, sadly, isn't in the Mexican desert, it's in the NEW Mexican one. I only correct this because friends of mine here in New Mexico "pilgrimaged" to the site to find copies of the game before they filled it with concrete.
Id want a patch for the purple nines glitch in gta3 for ps2.
I once played this game through for story, then created a new game thinling about going for 100%, put all the time and effort it to find because i completed the payphone missipns near the end of the first game against the purple nine gang that they would no longer spawn in that game but any other games on the save block.
By that time I was on near 80% and found all packages and unique jumps. All that time wasted 😭
There's a bug on Jak 2 that made impossible to beat the game; If you advanced in the race minigame eventually one of the races will spawn on the same spot of a main mission, and the game just can't handle two mission start point close to each other, so the main mission will disapear and the race minigame will take the place. I always like to make the sidequests before the main quests so when I discover that I will had to start the whole game just because I play some races I just give up and abandon the game. And I discover that bug ain't fixed even in the re-realed trilogy version.
I was so excited to play Pacman on the Atari when I was a kid. That game seriously crushed my barely sprouted gaming spirit, and I didn't touch another video game for nearly 10 years.
Jak-X Combat Racing has one of the most awesome intros in video game history, not gonna lie. Anything with Queens of the Stone Age automatically makes that list.
Wait wait what? Was it Go with the Flow? Because that song has splash screen menu music all over it and I'm yet to see it used as such 😪
@@KyleSetFire It was Millionaire
How about the best acting performances in video game industry? I would love to see that.
List Idea: Games Where You Rooted for Both the Heroes and Villains. (maybe Dragon Ball FighterZ’s Story Mode.)
ALBION - a science fiction / fantasy cross over RPG, made by Blue Byte. Most of it was either in 2D (manoevering across the landscape) or turn based (combat on a grid). Unfortunately, there were 3D passages, too. In one of them, you had to run along a wall and hit three switches which would open a door on the other side of the hall, then turn and run straight at the door and pass through in order to reach the next area.
The problem? It was timed. And guess which clock was used to check the time. Hint: It was not the clock that is used to tell which time it is. That leaves the CPU- and so it was unplayable with anything beyond a Pentium 120.
I can’t believe you used my idea! Thanks guys! I love the channel! Keep up the good work and stay safe!
Top 10 very over the top sequels that we love anyway
Top 10 best puzzles in video games
As a fellow bald man, I would like a list of the strongest and most badass bald men in gaming.
They did that not too long ago, beginning of 2021 I think, it was a live stream with Oasley, James, and Jules.
@@rangerthederpgoat2326, that’s a live stream, not a Tues your own adventure.
where are all the special characters?)
no more Beef Gates, Slime Jesus or Bielzelblub 😥
8 Games That Impacted Society
I recall that "Jetset Willy" the highly anticipated sequel to the ZX Spectrum hit "Manic Miner" couldn't be completed because just ONE of the hundreds of items you had to pick up was in the wrong place and you couldn't get it without dying. There was a POKE (Hex code) you could enter manually (EVERY TIME you wanted to run the game) that would remedy this, but only if you had the magazine the code was printed in...
Ima take a shot: Top games where the fans use mods to make better DLC or endings than the creators.
List Idea: Game Moments Where You Knew What Other Players Were Thinking.
There is a MASSIVE gulf between Zelda CD-I and Zelda 2.
Zelda 2 is an ok game, just different as it was the first sequel. Still better than Skyward Sword
I remember the soul caliber 3 corrupt saves thing...
I also remember how the pirate scene fix the thing almost immediately
The Wipeout bug was fairly common across a lot of games that assumed the CPU clock speed. That was the point of the "Turbo" button on that vintage of PC - allowing you to slow the CPU back down to the speed of older hardware generations.
Idea for list: Game clones that are better (or at least as good) as the original
Top 8 games with a good story but bad gameplay
Bad games with a great story or the other way around
8 Better 16-Bit Ports Between Nintendo or Sega
Very nice list, as always =) I do have to nitpick on one thing, though: Lion King wasn't a Capcom game, it was actually developed by Westwood Studios (yes, that Westwood) and published by Virgin! :P And I remember reading the SC3 savefile problems were even worse... either way, I'm not deleting that savefile ever -_-
Lastly, wasn't there a soccer game released for the ol' Saturn (I believe related to the 1996 Summer Olympics) that had such a gamebreaking bug that the EU version was pulled from shelves just a few weeks after release? I'm not being able to find anything about this, but maybe someone can confirm it :D Cheers!
For some reason, this reminds me of the demo version of Star Wars: Dark Forces. It was available from Lucas Arts as a 100+ MB download, back in the days of dial-up internet, where it would take roughly four minutes to download 1MB.
Now, Lucas Arts was an American company. I live in Australia. To get the file, you needed to dial into an American number, with costs associated for an international phone call, which were prohibitively expensive back then. 60MB, IIRC, at four minutes per megabyte, or 240 odd minutes = approximately a four hour international phone call. Now, I was quite prepared to do this, advised my parents that I would be doing this, and told them I would pay for the cost of the call (I had just started working full time, and still lived with them).
Three and a half hours into the download, my dad picked up the phone to make a call… Connection lost. File corrupted. No chance of simply resuming the download, and had to start from scratch… Tried again later that night, when everyone was asleep, and finally got the demo. But the phone bill! Yikes. For young me, though, totally worth it, to be able to play an early access version of something new for Star Wars (even though I could easily have purchased three or so copies of the retail version for the cost, when released…). I would not do this, these days, if circumstances were similar.
This was the incident that convinced me to have my own phone line installed at the house, for uninterrupted modem use.
Cheers,
It's kind of cool to see how reviled The Lion King was/is because as a little kid that game was nearly impossible for me. I thought I sucked 🥺
Switching between The Lion King, and Alladin, was like night and day back on the genesis. Though my favorite game was Zombies Ate My Neighbors.
10 quotes/sayings/sentences from games forever stuck in our minds.
e.g: Zelda's "Hey listen!", MGS' "Snake? Snake!? SNAAAAKE!""....etc
10 obscure but great PS2 games.
Psi Ops, R.A.D (Robot Alchemic Drive), Duel Hearts, The Suffering, Chulip, and Mr. Mosquito are some suggestions.
I'm shocked and confused by the Soul Calibur 3 one. I played SC3 almost religiously right up to getting a PS3, Chronicle of the Sword was my favourite way to play it too, but I never experienced that. And I was definitely OCD about my memory cards. 😅
I don’t know, I don’t quite think it’s altogether fair to blame the Atari 2600 port of _Pac-Man_ for setting the [video game] world on fire (to paraphrase from the title of The Ink Spots song which appears as part of _Fallout 3_ ’s OST) in the worst possible of ways. That’s a stretch. I think of it more of an ill omen or foreshadowing, writing on the wall, whatever of what was to come, but whose warnings were ignored in the name of the pursuit of the almighty dollar, better known as it’s common colloquialism, corporate greed.
It's not copying anything that would corrupt it's deleteing anything behind the save file. I'll exsplain here lets say you played Resident Evil outbreak and saved then saved after a sanario then went to soul cailibur 3 now SC3 is in frount of RE outbreak and lets say after sometime a few years pass you decide to delete outbreak to make room for anouther game maybe something new you got well if you just delete it say goodbye to SC3 as well cause it is gonna corrupt it self how ever you if you first start RE outbreak and the save data gets loaded your SC3 data is now behind RE outbreak now you can delete RE outbreak safely and without worry. how ever if you no longer own the game there is a work around IF you own a secound PS2 memory card. you can copy SC2 to the secound card then UNPLUG IT FROM THE PS2 that step it important. Then delete what you want to get rid of on card 1 and then SC3 on card one will corrpt scap it then plug card 2 back in copy it to card 1 and you still have your sweet save data. Why does SC3's save data fuction like this i'm no exspert if you want that answer you gonna have to dig for that.
suggestion for next week:
10 times publishers/developers retroactively ran off their own customers
Yes, this is about Gravity and their bull with Ragnrok Online; no I'm not salty, you are ...
Damn TH-cam rules. Ruining everything. You’re videos are always dope and respectful. I’m starting to dislike TH-cam. I keep hearing about Rumble.
10:34 that's actually not that uncommon. Games run part of their code on screen refreshes, every time there's a new frame part of the code runs again. If you programmed a game for a console with a fixed or capped frame rate in mind and moved to a PC with a virtually unlimited one, certain calculations will be off. That's why, for example, you can't beat the 360 spin trick on GTA SA's auto school on 60fps, It will always think you oversteered
Lion King was a Virgin Games release, no Capcom. Capcom made the SNES Aladdin.. but the Genesis Aladdin and both console versions of Lion King were Virgin
Oh Sphinx and the cursed mummy had a game breaking bug (you can find it I nthe wikipedia) where if you entered this specific room, didn't solve the puzzle, and left, then you wouldn't be able to progress any further in the game. My 9 year old self was certain I just had to keep trying and I'd come back to that game for a couple hours a week for over a month trying to figure out what I was missing.
Man I grew up on Zelda II, hearing those words hurt lol. It was the golden foiled cartridge also. That was my first foray into the ToZ series and, being a child, the Game Over screen with Ganon scared the bejeezus out of me.
And I miss the WIpeout series. Psygnosis was one of my favorite devs, as I really liked the Colony Wars series that they made.
Jules, you furry Faberge! Do a list about games that let you destroy everything (enemies, buildings, etc.)! Or some other list where you talk about how much fun Red Faction Guerrilla is. Do it.
Zelda 2 is a good game. Wdym?
Next week how about the opposite of this list. Remastered games we can now enjoy games from our childhood. You can add Segas Lion King for the PS4. I would add Crash Bandicoot 2. (Our disk was scratched so we never could get past the first 10 levels.)
I have a suggestion for a list. Multiplayer Games That Are Still Going Despite Being Declared Dead. The playerbase has dropped, the esports league closed down, reviewers and internet commentors have smugly declared that this game is finished and you're stupid if you still play it. And yet, the game still has an active playerbase, you can get matches at any hour of the day and the devs are even still supporting it with patches and new content! In spite of the judgment of the gaming community who don't play it, this "dead" game is still going. Maybe not strong, but it refuses to die. Heroes of the Storm is one example.
What about Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness? It was basically a Cyberpunk 2077 released in 2003. It desperately needed to be patched.
Legend of Dragoon for the PS1 had a glitch that it would freeze at a very specific scene transition when played on a PS2. Wouldn't freeze when played on PS1 or PS3 but always on PS2.
@14:40 - fun fact; Coleco did a horrendously bad job on Pac Man for the Atari 2600 on purpose. They were hoping to boost sales of the Colecovision by pointing out how crap Atari games are.
Games that really needed a Save Option of some kind. A couple of examples: "Jurassic Park" on the SNES, and "Blaster Master" on the NES.
Fun fact:
The Atari 2600 version of Pac-Man was actually made by Atari's rival company and was made terrible on purpose to get people to buy the version for their own system.
Zelda games are all very stable and meticulously created at launch? Did you play BotW at launch??? I mean.... At all? I had to put it down for a year due to the bugginess (and boredom). I guess people overlook that due to all the marketing money they flooded the money with to hype it up... Or maybe I played an ultra rare US beta release that was purchased at best buy lol. I'm a huge Zelda fan, but let's take the green glasses off lol
WHAAAAA.... so THAT’S why i could only ever make it so far into Jak X’s story before permanently freezing on the load screen???
Another game who has needed a patch is the Pal Version from Digimon World, where a Bug prevented you from speaking with an Digimon, with makes completing the Game really difficult.
Suggestion: Best nature in videogames. I don't mean just graphics wise (older games can be included). More along the lines of atmosphere, music, artistic style etc. We all have spent our fair share of time in cool virtual forests.
Playing GTA San Andreas on the PS2 slimline was horrible. It almost always froze, especially when traveling through the desert or Las Venturas.
Suikoden 5 for ps2 needed a patch. There's a game breaking glitch in it which crashes the game half way through.
There's a spot where you walk across a bridge and when the game is supposed to load the new area it crashes.
Fortunately it doesn't happen all the time, but too often.
I had to clean the disc and stuff for it to get fixed. Yeah I know that sounds like a disc problem, but it was really a game glitch.
Add Gran Turismo 2 to the list. My game at a certain point, all of my cars just vanishes, except for the car I'm driving in. I start over, and again, it happens! This makes the rest of the game unplayable.
I'd love to have seen a patch for Super Mario World 2 that stops the awful crying baby Mario sound
and a patch to fix Max Payne's horrible dream sequences.
I think it would also be fair to include actual gems like Master of Magic and Darklands. They are truly awesome games and have actualy come into their own later after patches were actually made possible. But on launch... Oh boy.
I believe it was the OG Baldurs Gate on PC. If you ran a Half-Elf multi class. At one point in the dungeon it shot a fireball at you. And when it happened the game would crash. It took forever to find out what was going on.
Early PC games running too fast because processors improved happened often, in the early days. My own dad had a game that was all seafaring warfare and when he tried to play it on an upgraded machine it ran so quickly that he'd no sooner launch it than find out he'd lost. I'm not kidding about that, either. It would scale the speed of the game to the processor's available processing.
Idea :10 Easter eggs that reference cancelled games possibly?
Can’t find any other videos on it. There’s plenty of examples. Like the Pirate that was set to be the main villain in project dream makes a small cameo in Banjo Kazooie 2
I would argue for Mercenaries 2: World in Flames. Technically, it wasn’t pre internet, but it was slightly too early for post release patches for console games to be a thing, which is a shame because there are a few moments where the game Pandemic Studios was trying to make shines through the bugs and it is glorious, but then another small bug disrupts it.
I actually don't remember getting completely broken games back then. I mean bugs all games have yea, but got occasional bad game but was just bad design not the broken half done stuff we get today... I probly did get one somewhere along the way just don't remember
Why did the PS2 slim suck so hard?! Why did they make so many of them if it did all this garbage? I remember Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters would get scratched beyond use in a slim model! Thank god I got an original model.
Why is it that some things you say reminds me so heavily of Richard Ayoade?? Your mannerisms, the tone of your voice. lol that's a compliment btw, but yeah... You sound so much like him
I'm gonna say Prince of Persia (DOS). I mean, it's a near perfect game, but the time limit is going to prevent a lot of people from seeing a lot of it and The Shadow of Flame...and as long as we're talking ports....not a single good one after the first
Jesus, pacman in the Atari takes me back to when I was like 5. My parents had an old console and I forgot this game until watching this video. I remember a version of Pitfall and a Chess game.
I'm not sure the 2600 could actually handle a proper port of pac-man. Which gives me an idea.
"10 games that should have been held over until the next console released"
10 Video game sidekicks/helpers that just got in the way, caused problems or were generally so annoying they made you save the game just so you could destroy them with impunity.
I absolutely love Jak X and want to see a remastered or remake of it....I know we got the PS2 port on the playstation store but I think it can look amazing on new gen graphics and would absolutely love to see a sequel for it and Jak 3 that we never got and probably never gonna get sadly
I played lion king as a kid and could majority of the time get to the pride rock fight against scar. Never beat him. That final fight always seemed impossible.
My kids who are arguably better at games than I was at their age give up on can't wait to be king.
What about Guilty Pleasure Games? Those games that you know are SOOOOOO bad, but you can't stop enjoying them :)