The Dark Side Of Zootopia | Grim Secrets Behind Its Creation & INSANELY Strict Laws They Must Follow
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- The city of Zootopia is the place that predator and prey can co-exist safely and liberally, and no one can argue with the fact that it is a fantastic movie. But one thing people fail to question is, how the perfect city was created in the first place? Nothing starts out perfect as they say, and as it would turn out, the origins of Zootopia come from a much darker place, with some of the old rules and regulations still lingering about the city in an attempt to keep it seemingly perfect and pristine.
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It's actually easier to say that cats and dogs wouldn't exist without humans. Because really they wouldn't.
Cats could
also there’s the question about monkeys of sorts, because at a certain point if a monkey evolves to human intelligence, then it will look a lot like a human… so shouldn’t monkeys as well not exist anymore due to similarity or would they always be considered more primal because they can’t go further in the evolution without becoming a ‘monster’ in the eyes of the other creatures
@@zarachastellaris9016 nope, without humans nobody will breed wild cats over generations into cats
Except that the existence of livestock that were bred by humans requires the existence of humans. Pigs, certain breeds of horses, Etc. So the theory could work. Pets may have sided with humans whereas the livestock, who were literally the food of the humans, would likely be the first to rise up. Maybe even Animal Farm could be placed somewhere in the timeline.
@@Elliandr If you mean the roman written by george orwell, don't think so because at the end of that nothing changed except the pigs ruled over the animals except for the humans.
Zootopia was originally going to be MUCH DARKER-
We are talking about nick having a shock collar-
All the predators were going to have tame shock collars in the original idea of the movie, not only Nick
@@ghostlybeautymia7413
I know I know-
Gawd damn it’s so dark and disturbing-
And nick was gunna have like an entire building for them to have no shock colours and
Judy discovers it-
And would she fought for their rights ore somethin-
@@staydetermined6717 If you want to watch a dark version of Zootopia but in anime format just for curiosity,just watch beastars.
oh my...
@@arthursemeghinigallo3336
Haha, very funny
Does no one talk about the pigs? Pigs were domesticated from boars - just like dogs were domesticated from wolves. The pigs in the paparazzi hoard, for example... Also, there's a pig in the one rally scene that verbally assaults a cheetah, if I remember correctly. To be honest, I still find that ironic to this day, since pigs are omnivores - just like grizzlies and humans.
It was funny. Pigs however aren't really domesticated. Leave any pig in the wild and they will, even in appearance, return to the state of a wild boar. Their physical change comes with comfort and easy living, verses a harsher more stressful living. It's actually really interesting.
i think i also saw 2 horses in the background,im not sure tho they could just be 2 mis colored zebras
@@juliankniffin799 Horses can be excused, since they really didn't change at all between being wild and being in captivity.
@@crystallinethunder uhhhh but they did,look at today's horses who come in breeds like shires,friesians,Shires,and Shetland ponies and the only horse that is truly Wild is the przewalski horse,they changed alot from there wild selves
@@crystallinethunder mustangs,brumbies,exmoor ponies,numid wild horses,and other breeds decend from domesticated horses
Imagine the lions ruling as King and Mayor in both stories are descendants from Mufasa ...
Beastars has a “Black Market” where whole bunnies after being sent to the morgue are kept in glass butcher display cases for carnivores to purchase.
beastars
Would be cool if they introduce something like that in Beastars
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 IT HAS!
READ CHAPTER 122!
I like to think beastars is along that timeline in between the proposed Robin hood and Zootopia.
Maybe the bunnies are okay populating like that because they grow their own food.
In such an advanced society, they definitely have the ability to grow food very densely and continue to innovate faster than they grow, so they constantly increase the amount of food their society is capable of producing in the space they have.
They also, technically, don't live in the city of Zootopia proper..
but then how do they accommodate the rapidly growing population without trying to control it?
This is one of the better videos on TH-cam. I can't stop speculating now. What if a sequel tied in the Lion King and Robin Hood to the franchise? Maybe there were never humans in this universe.
I actually have a theory of how a society of anthropomorphized animals would work. It actually is based more on Beastar's where a system had been put into place allowing deceased animals to be donated to the black market and harvested for meat as a way to sustain carnivores. This concept, when you apply over population, can allow for a rather dystopian, especially when you remove the black market and put it out in the open. If i were to start writing a story surrounding a society of anthropomorphized, I would write it to focus on how animals who produce rapidly like most rodents, can/are encouraged to donate children to be raised in a similar fashion as irl cattle. And as we can simply become organ donor's, the animals in the story could apply to be food donors, for when they die, the docters will know to send them to the morgue or the butcher
I think the food supply for carnivores likely comes from Fish, Reptiles, Birds, and Insects. It's only Mammals that have evolved to the intelligent state in Zootopia, not all animals.
@@TamTroll yes but I'm talking if we take into account all matter of animal. In the movie sing, we see squid, reptiles like alligators, snakes and turtles. In beastars we see avian predators, and the character six eyes is a snake. Yes we can apply non evolved animals to be used as a food supply. But as we see in most adaptations of anthro animal society, we do not see any unevolved animals. The only animals we see are those that have become bipedal, human intellect and the ability to speak. Taking that into account we can assume that general cannibalism would be necessary. Though it also depends on what you would consider as cannibalism.
For instance, one can say that an unevolved wolf were to be eaten by an evolved wolf is the same as if a human were to eat that same wolf. However, apart from the obvious anthropomorphic differences you could say it's still cannibalism. So ultimately. Morality would be a major player in how that kind of society would work, and not just what is available to them. Though both are fairly equal
@@jakewright924 ahh, i was mainly talking about Zootopia itself. Zootopia has it established that only mammals evolved, so other animals would still be options.
Although we don't see them in the film; it is implied that at least dogs exist in this world like in Judy's phone we see her music list with a group called the Beagles (spoof of the Beetles) on it. Also in some concept art for the Film in the Zootopia art book there's a poster of a movie or show called 'Pug the Bounty Hunter' (likely a spoof of Dog the Bounty hunter) showing a pug front and center. And we know birds are exist since Gazelle mentions them in one of her songs. I'm guess why we don't see non-mammal animals in the Zootopia is they most likely formed their 'own' society; separate from the mammals. Hopefully if there's a sequel they'll explore that concept.
My personal theory is some catastrophic event happen that caused the humans an most likely other primates to be killed or flee said world. Leaving all non-primate animals to evolve and gain human-like intelligents; which in time would (agree) lead up to the events of Robin Hood being 'their' equivalent of the Medieval times. This would also explain things like them having balloons and the song Happy Birthday because those things were left behind by the humans. This also would explain the illistrations from the begining of Robin Hood showing human. Additional artifacts left behind by the humans which would most likely explain why the animals adapted that style of clothing.
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Nice, I like your theory. It should have more attentions like more Likes/thumbs up and comments :)
@@MarshaNPILoveCanada Thanks 😊
That cool, but you forgot about Birds, Reptiles and Amphibians. How their society react to them
I have to say that the "destruction"/"purge" of humans is quite a leap of logic and I think I have a theory that would probably make more sense:
My theory which I think is more logical is that humans never existed in that universe or went extinct quickly. If Humans never existed or went exticnt, would explain why dogs and cats arent domesticated. How the humans could have died, this would be a bit of imagination but humans could have died before they evolved from monkeys sometime inbetween the lion king and robin hood. to back this up (and if memory serves right) Monkeys and Apes are never shown in both Robin Hood and in Zootopia. The only film with monkeys/apes is the lion king which shows they could have existed during that time. With Zootopia being such a big city and the camera spending so much time in the city and us not seeing a single ape/monkey we might be able to make the assumption. Another way the Humans could have not appeared is they just didn't evolve from monkeys or they just live somewhere else. It's completely possible that humans do exist, they just haven't gone to the islands that Zootopia is set on.
yeah this is a whole essay about humans. PS this makes the assumption that Zootopia is also in the same universe as the lion king and robin hood
some where between robin hood and Zootopia would be beaststars theoretically if they where in the same universe
beaststars has alredy a story of how the past was, and what happen when the carnivores and herbivores firsr meet, and other stuff that i won`t spoil
You had me till the human part. They even said in production that Zootopia was based on a world where humans never existed at all. Meaning dogs and domestic cats wouldn't exist because humans didn't exist to make them. You should do better research before you make these theories. Also there's no evidence of human existence in any of the films. Especially the Robin hood one. Human existence would have been obvious.
I don't think socialism and capitalism had anything to do with the aesthetics of Sing and Zootopia. I remember the process of creating Zootopia with Rich Moore and Byron Howard. They didn't just want to focus on creating an animal world. They wanted to make an animal world where humans never existed. That's why their world has a lot of "accessibility aspects." Sing had no notion of this idea. You can replace the characters of Sing with humans and the story will play just as is. You can't do that with Zootopia. The Mouse Town scene alone is impossible.
What got me thinking since the release of Sing is, "Why didn't Zootopia have other taxonomic class than Mammals?"
Maybe I just missed one fish or two birds, but I can't seem to remember any animal that isn't mammal in the film
My big question for Zootopia is why are they all mammals? You don't see a single non-mammal in the entire film. There are no birds, or reptiles, or fish. Where did the rest of the animals go? Why are there only mammals in Zootopia? Did the rest of them just get kicked out?
Pretty sure those became the 'animals'. The carnivores and omnivores have to eat something too, so they are using those animal groups as food.
@@NLance I guess that makes sense. But if all of the mammals are sentient, why not the rest of them?
@@smallpaws196 I guess it can be answered by the question: Why did humans become sentient and not the rest of the animals? No one knows. It just happened this way.
@@NLance Fair enough
If you take Robin Hood as part of this world, then reptiles & birds did evolve sentience; Sir Hiss is a snake, and some of the guards were crocodiles; Lady Cluck is a hen and Robin dressed up as a stork. No talking fish though!
I wonder why there on reptiles,bird,fish and apes
If I remember right I think they clarified apes didn’t make it long enough as a species. Fish and insects are also food, I believe?
I find the mechanics of the city in this movie intriguing, the creators put so much thought into it and developed it so well. I imagine the city's infrastructure would be insanely expensive to maintain, they must have a pretty robust economy or have access to some special natural resources like Dubai. For example, there are giant refrigerators separating the snow-land and desert-land areas and that's crazy on its own, and tons of irrigation for the rainforest area with the sprinklers in the trees and whatnot, not to mention all the roads and buildings to accommodate different sized creatures and general city-stuff like parks and sidewalks on top of it. The way it's set up makes me think that if it was real it would have to be a planned city, there's no way it would just evolve like that unless it started small in the center and grew outward. I don't know, I just find it interesting to think about.
Would I be wrong in speculating, all the animals who appear in Zootopia, are mammals? If I were to apply a "what if" scenario to that origins story, maybe instead of one species (the Apes) evolving to rule over all, mammals evolved together, so that humans didn't become human. They remained animal, or died out. Interesting to note that no relatives, close to humans (not even our distant monkey cousins) with opposing thumbs, appeared in Zootopia. You would think the mammals with opposing thumbs, would be the ones to design the kind of tech the animals in Zootopia were using (ie: pen and paper). So it leads me to believe, no mammals with opposing thumbs, seems to have survived the evolution process.
Which means, Rafiki in The Lion King, didn't have descendants which made it to Zootopia. Also possible though, mammals with opposing thumbs decided to move to their own continent, away from those who don't possess them.
This is a really cool video, love all these cool theories.💗💗💗
Thanks for the heart.
There are still a few demesticated animals such as pigs camels and sheep.
I do love the theory though.
Are camels menmade?
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 most of the camels u see are domesticated. Few wild ones remain.
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 the ones that roam freely that are domesticated can be considered fereal.
@@dagoodboyvids336 yeah today but camels originally aren't breed
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 same with everything yo.
...You're basing most of this off fan theories that have no actual basis in movie fact. The whole thing about no domesticated cats and dogs is because, as the first trailer for the movie makes clear, "Humans... never happened." There is no evidence to support a 'great culling' or a war between humans and animals, there's not even any evidence to suggest that humans would have existed in the weird AU timeline you're suggesting. There's not even any evidence that it takes place on earth, or that Nick is homeless/ lives under the bridge.
This is a really interesting and well thought out video, I really enjoyed it. Thank you for the upload!
For people who want a darker but more realist version of Zootopia I would say look at Beastars it is far darker and far more pointed at adults
What I'm wondering about Zootopia is WHAT THE FRICK ARE PREDATORS EATING
Probably animals who didn't develop. Birds and fish
I think the absence of domesticated animals can be explained with an absence of humans: dogs are basically wolves that were bread for domestication, to accomodate for certain human needs, similar goes for cats. We never see humans neither in lion king nor in robin hood, so it's possible for humans to never have existed.
I was thinking too, that there were humans in the past of the Zootopia. But in the scene in the museum we see a statue of mamooth with spear in his hand. Then I was thinking, that humans and animals could gain intelignce at the same time in history. Because we know, mamooths were extinct before any civilization of humanity. And I started to think, that, if there are humans, so they would be in wilderness, organized as a tribes. Living outside the any civilization of animals.
From another barrel, we have seen, that there are only land mammals in Zootopia. So I thought, that animals as all kinds of reptiles, birds, bats and apes could be somekind of tribes or something.
Why is there a Mr. Big if everyone gets what they need?
house cats do exist in the zootopia universe tho! look in the credits when they show mayor Lionheart in jail. the magazine he is reading has a Housecat on the cover!
Beast stars is like part of the lore if you think about it
I really like Zootopia, can't wait for movie 2
i don't think disney can cover the great animal vs. human wars because PG and G ratings, but the TV show Zoo (based off of books, yes) is probably as close as we're gonna get
Actually how would the carnivores survive without meat?
So, well, you see how the farm has a limited space for numbers?
Too many bunnies+ Unfeed carnivores= Ultimate purge
"it isnt often that a movie will touch on the subjects such as prejudice and discrimination..."
Erm................. ya sure? Because that's like, one of the single most common themes in hollywood.
Fear doesn’t work if you’re incapable of even noticing and acting upon it
Did know one realize that in lion king, Ruben hood and zootopia all have a lion in charge
what about Ratatollie or any of the Rescuers movies, maybe 101 dalmations being part of this timeline where Humans and highly intelligent animals co-existed
hell to even proove that Lion King is set in a very old age, Hercules and with scar being used as a towel...
This video makes me want to watch Disney movies by Timeline order now.
It’s more likely humans didn’t exist at all in this universe, therefore no animals were domesticated, than they were wiped out
My opinion. If we admit the nonexistence of a whole branch of animals with apes, which animal is the best candidate to reach intelligence? I think those with something similar to hands - with free movable fingers. Is much easier evolution-wise to develop something like hands from a paw with free movable fingers than anything else. Hands are really important - without them, you can´t make new things and they are kinda crucial for developing brains - when you grab something and manipulate it you are sending tons of new signals to your brain to process. So in my opinion no other animals than those with fingers or similar (for example octopus is really intelligent and can use those tentacles as hands) would reach intelligence. Which means no deers, no horses, zebras, elephants ... the biggest prey would be the capybara. So the plot of the movie would never happen.
What about the lack of birds and sea creatures like fish and others?
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I dont think accessibility infrastructure is inherently capitalists or socialist,
city design and economical laws are different, you can have a capitalists city with amazing accessibility infrastructure, or a socialists city with terrible accessibility infrastructure.
One thing I really wonder is how the predators manage to keep healthy w/o meats
An ocean full of Fish?
@@gcra-luma2145 I am so stupid lmao
Sheep are domesticated and there are wild cats that are the same size as domestic cats (one could even argue humans didn’t domesticate cats and cats domesticated themselves). So, no, the domesticated animals were very obviously not wiped out.
They really describing Detroit xD
I thought this was a jake tran video for a sec
They eat fish and poultry. Very dark
Please we know it was *grim dark* under the surface. I mean look at nick and the *godfather* skunk rug issue alone. So someone and somewhere sells dead animal rugs and one doubts its fake fur, and do you think they would toss the meat?. One suspects they have a thriving and not talked about* real meat* for the carnivores. And no sign of butchers yet we have milk and cream for coffee and ice cream so we have milking farms off camera too. Then look at the talk about the shock collars to keep preds in control, yeah zootopia has a lot of grim dark under the glitz and glitter.
The word you're probably looking for to describe the city would be "accessible." It's physically accessible, but financial inequality is clearly a problem if the mafia exists. Zootopia isn't socialist, and this is demonstrated by your theory about Nick being homeless. We know that Judy has no job when she's in school, because she spends every waking hour studying/training, and is never shown working for money. How can she rent a centrally-located apartment without an income (other than the support of her working-class parents), while Nick makes all that money and is supposedly homeless? He could plausibly have poor credit or be in debt, but it would need to be a capitalist world for those things to happen. Plus, Judy could reasonably make around $50k per year post-graduation, which is only 2/3 of Nick's untaxed earnings. The numbers don't add up, especially if you want it both ways.
If socialist: affordable housing isn't an issue, because the government or community would provide it. If capitalist: he can obviously afford it, especially put next to Judy's salary or lack thereof. If he does indeed live under that bridge, it's almost definitely by choice.
The whole Pixar Theory-esque timeline, human tyranny and genocide, and child-kidnapping are also pretty wild stretches, especially when considering how much legitimate material you have to work with from actual scrapped background & early drafts of the film. You have every right to speculate on, say, how obligate carnivores are fed, or how population is managed in this society, or the state of the world outside the city... but conspiracy theories like the ones in this video, when it's well-known that the film's previous iterations were much darker than the final version, feel like clickbait, and don't make this channel appear very credible.
Additionally, and most importantly... Zootopia *doesn't* hit the mark for a movie about discrimination, if you think about it for any length of time. At all. Discrimination towards small animals, like Judy, on the basis of perceived ability/maturity is fairly tame when brought against a real-world parallel ("don't judge a book by its cover"), but discrimination against carnivores is an indisputable minefield. No matter how the movie tries to dance around that fact, it's entirely justified for historically prey species to treat carnivores with suspicion and fear. Regardless of who they are inside, predators inhabit bodies *built* for killing, and there's a well-known and long-standing historical precedent of them doing so in the canon of the movie, if the opening play is anything to go on.
It's implied that non-predator animals can also go savage if they're drugged, but it's never shown or even openly addressed in-universe: there is no evidence that implication is true, and even if it is, the public never gets to know that. Even then, it's still a problem, because the way the drug works isn't entirely clear. If it reverts animals to their base instincts, and you darted a bunny, it wouldn't have a prey drive compelling it to hunt other animals; it would probably just run away. With the information we can confirm, the best case scenario is that a bad actor or even a freak accident could reawaken the rabid killing machine hard-coded into the DNA of any predatory animal at any given time, without warning or recourse, and this would not be true for herbivores. In that case, prey animals are right to be afraid.
The film frames judgments against Nick & other carnivores as immoral and unfair, but the herbivore population has a legitimate biological imperative for their discriminatory behaviors. If you try to map that onto modern Western racial politics, which the movie is *clearly* attempting with its jokes referencing Black stereotypes (e.g. framing of "cute" as the N-word for bunnies, touching ethnic hair and comparing it to sheep's wool), that blows up in your face pretty much immediately. I don't need to explain how utterly messed up that is just on principle, let alone the fact that the film's inconsistence frames things as though both sides have it equally bad, which they demonstrably do not. Don't get me wrong, the movie was an entertaining watch, and I enjoyed it on a surface level, but it clearly slapped some arbitrary buzzwords together to appear topical, rather than being thoughtful or sincere in presenting its message.
TL;DR: I respectfully disagree, thank you for coming to my TED talk
Id think that the predators would have adapted to eat fish
Where is the sequel?
And how do the carnivores get what they need?
What happened to the reptiles, avians and insects? Why are there only mammals in Zootopia?
(And also, there is icecream in zootopia... meaning there is milk in zootopia... where are they getting said milk-)
Soy milk, almond milk, etc
Lionheart is a cat.
Zootopia or Cola Light Beastar?
Okay, you had me up until the Socialist society part… which yeah pretty early in vid, but most of what we see of Zootopia, especially with confrontation of Nick Wilde about his little scam and the various things that are brought up with it points to a Capitalist society rather than a Socialist or even Free Market society. And while on the surface it is a utopia, it is shown more than once that this is surface level. There are problems, prejudices, and more within their world and city, while they have created structures to accommodate the various size of creatures, this makes more sense in Zootopia where the size difference between various species is extremely vast and different, in Sing, majority of species are roughly around the same size, being somewhere between 3 feet and 6 feet in height, with their being outliers in the form of Elephants and other large species as well as mice and other tiny species, but these are the outliers, and even then it is shown that despite the world being built more around a standard size range they still make do. Both are Capitalist societies, but they show differing depiction of societal values within their worlds, rather than differing style of economies or society.
did disney make cats verses dogs? did they wipe out themselves?
What kind of meat would the predator eat🧐🤨?
Maybe diluted meat, unless they have fake meat that tastes like certain kinds..? 🤔
Conclusion: inflation
If Zootopia was Socialist, Nick wouldn't be hustling like a Capitalist.
Okay... this guy is wrong about basically *EVERYTHING!!!*
I'll break down the points one by one if you're interested
First, the idea that *Zootopia is Socialist* is ridiculous. The points made in the video actually indicate the exact opposite, it says the Zootopia runs on Socialism because the city and businesses are tailor suited to accommodate many different species, while comparing it to *Sing* which it calls "Capitalist" because everyone has to make do with the same size stuff. But real world examples would actually say that the reverse is true, Socialist Nations are infamous for their "One Size Fits All" policies, with everyone getting the same model of car, same brand of food and so on, and if a business did want to cater to various different size species, the lack of Economic Freedom and over regulation would make it near impossible to get off the ground, and if by some miracle it did, it would inevitable end up poorly implemented
However, those problems do not exist in Capitalist Societies. A business would easily be able to make modifications to suits various different species as a means of drawing in more customers, and once that proves successful, every other business would start copying it until it became the norm and generally expected. And yes, a Capitalist Zootopia would also have houses built to suit different species such as small rodents, as there'd be a large enough population to warrant an actual market for it
The same would also be the case with the "Fame and Fortune" point. In a Capitalist Society, even if you aren't part of the upper class, you can still live a comfortable life. However in Socialist Nations, if you aren't apart of the ruling class or lack ties to them, then economically speaking; *You're FUCKED!!!*
Next is everything said about *Humans.* There is no indication that Humans ever existed in the World of Zootopia, and as many others here have pointed out, Dogs were breed from Wolves by Humans, so no Humans means no Dogs
Finally, *Population Control.* The idea that Over-population would lead a shortage of Resources is a major *Economic Myth* mainly cause we're constantly making/discovering new resources all the time. "Experts" have been predicting that we'd run out of resources in "a couple of decades" for over a century now, but they always failed to account for a greatest resource, the Human Mind.
With it were constantly coming up with ways to either
* a) use our pre-existing resources more efficiently
* b) to create effective substitutes
* c) develop ways of making more of what we need more effectively
* d) all of the above
For instance, despite Earth's population experiencing a massive boom in the past half century, we've actually reduced our overall water consumption by over 50%, due to the fact that we've improved our methods of water irrigation in agriculture, which is where most of our water usage goes. And in the mid-to-late 80's we started running out of copper, making copper wiring really expensive, yet high demand for wiring lead to the development of fiber-optic cables, which is made from sand
Also just a couple of centuries ago, almost everybody was a farmer, but thanks to improved farming techniques and technology, today we are able to feed *Billions* even though only 2% of people work on farms nowadays
And any country that has utilised population control measures, such as China, has seen it massive backfire on them. With China their *One-Child Policy* has created a culture were people don't even want to bother having kids at all, a severe lack of women due to anyone who does want to have a kids generally wanting a boy, and is just one of thing that has lead to them having no effective means of replacing their aging labor force. They recently bumped it up to a *Three-Child Policy* but the damage has already been done and there's no easy fix
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Also as a side note, the fact that Judy was able to afford an apartment even though we're literally following her first couple days as cop, meaning she hasn't even gotten her first paycheck yet would seem to indicate that housing is _very_ affordable in Zootopia
Correction: small breeds of cats
that's not even slightly close to what socialist means
Ikr
Yes it is
@@ChicagoMel23 that is literally just capitalism done well. socialism is an economic concept, the facility catering to all is a great way to increase productivity and spending from those other groups hence that infrastructure would work well under capitalism. it's just a more accommodating society as a whole. while that is a primary idea behind socialism it is a primary idea in pretty much any system just by different means. It's a difference between just strait realistic capitalism and idealistic capitalism, not capitalism and socialism.
If SING's society was capitalistic, businesses would implement easier means for smaller animals to access them such as smaller stairs for mice in order to maximize profits.
@@DatJaneDoeArchive if it was ideal ya mean, just cause thatd be nice and bring ins some profits doesn't mean it justify the cost or extra space.
I was with you... Until humans! It makes sense that dogs wouldn't exist if humans didn't exist because we made dogs as we see them today!
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Yeah id say zootopia is dark plus there is some racism in there
You make Zootopia cooooooler
what you get wrong is that normaly in Socialist sociaties things aren't realy that nice or lovley.
as for Captialism there is 2 types. real Capitalism is earning providing for yourself and making your own products, running your own buisness being able to provide for your family and no elite class that is entitled to more than anyone else but you can still compete and make it rich. In capitlism becoming rich is possible but Taxes are kept low enough to where anyone can compete with the rich. meaning someone poor could easily earn enough money to where on day they have more money than someone who was once richer than they.
Then you have Croney Capitalism which involves heavy taxes, more big buisness muscling in and less small business and therefore less competition that can compete against big corporation giants.
but if you look into how communism normally works they have always been racist. just because one or few races might be living well doesn't mean they all are.
I really don't think that there were ever any humans. Dog and cats wouldn't exist, because they had never existed. And maybe Sing and Zootopia take place in the same universe but different places in the world. Zootopia looks really small if you think about world proportions, and even what we haven't seen seems like it might be about the same size. Also I'm guessing it is actually more of a mix government society, because that is the only way many countries succeed long term. Any government made of one government type only for for a short while, best average scenario a whole century, and worst case a decade, which I remind you, considering the span of time it will exist vs how long the planet will is exceedingly short. Full socialist countries are no exception, failing pretty quickly because of economic problems caused by the system, and Zootopia must have been around for a while, for them to be so advanced and like they are. I'm guessing it's actually a mix of capitalist-socialist and probably with democratic and republican mixed in too. Zootopia looks really socialist, but it can't be fully as there is evidence to the contrary, with businesses being owned by individual animals, hence the elephant ice cream shop being able to refuse service and Nick having permits to make what he is doing loosely legal, as him not reporting anything for taxes really was the only thing making it illegal. Zootopia may have originally been socialist on the glorified idea, but the government had to change and adapt to survive economically. Even the American government is a mixed government so it doesn't callapse, as are many.
Delusional bs. Talking about sublime messages.
"Is Zootopia a depiction of a socialist economy?" To steal a phrase, I don't think that word means what you think it does.
A socialist economy is where the state owns the means of production. I didn't see any sign of that and I'm not sure where you did. Do you assume that Lemming Brothers (née Leman Brothers) is some sort of government-owned accounting firm? You point out that businesses cater to their customers, despite their drastic differences in shapes and sizes. Well, if I were a business owner, I would certainly want to do that--regardless of their shapes and sizes. Especially if my business was in a place where many of these animals co-exist--like in a train station. You notice there wasn't a larger-sized "Mousey's" in Little Rodentia? Or that the Elephant Ice Cream place seemed to only serve larger animals? Again, I didn't see that all businesses were required to have access for different sized animals. In fact, at the DMV, I didn't see any sign of smaller animals.
So I'm not sure you get this "socialism" thing. Or you've been watching too much Fox News...
That was a bald-faced lie you just said that's not a socialist Society it's still very much divided with the concept of bigotry that is enforced and that everyone needs to fulfill a certain role even if it's not a desirable one such as it was pretty difficult for Judy to get where she is because of her size it's nearly impossible for Nick to get a normal job because of the prejudice against Fox
Probably is a bit socialist given the points