hello teacher.I'm the "boy" from Florence.Finally another tutorial on the whaling ship.I thank you for everything you publish.I think that, having never built a model of a wooden ship, I have
A very interesting and informative video. It's great for us newbies who would have no idea how best to tackle such jobs, and you explain things very clearly.
It's not hard to come up with the concepts for these videos. All I have to do is think back to all the stuff I didn't know when I started, and a whole catalog of content is up for grabs. The hard part is trying not to blather on endlessly-much harder.
Wow it seems every time I watch a video from you I learn something new. Thanks for taking time out of your busy life to share what you have learned over the years. I for one really appreciate the time and effort you put into this. You have definitely forgot more about model ships than I know but I am definitely going to get to were you are. So I hope.
The main reason I make these videos is the hope that someone will pick up a little something they didn't know before. It's become my way of pay back, or paying forward the generosity others have and continue to show me. Thanks! Tom
You make valid and quite important points concerning the interpretation of detail authenticity. BTW - I agree with your tabernacle joinery view. It seems obvious from the shadows and it is also much stronger than sitting in a rebate. If the pieces are not properly fit, a rebate could split a layer of wood from the top of the cross frame. A full notch could be a little sloppy. I have also sometimes noticed a dome block set in the background. Do you use this? And if so, briefly, what exactly for?
Thanks for saving me from having to explain why I did what I did with the tabernacle. Reducing the aft edge to 1/2" would have made the piece so weak right at the very spot that bears the brunt of the stress. I don't know if you noticed, but the tabernacle is already developing cracks at one or two spots where the screws cross the grain. Maybe they should have run the grain longitudinally, or just drilled larger pilot holes... I'm not sure, but I think you're referring to the set of dapping tools (different sized round forms with a corresponding set if matching depressions?). Yes, I do use them to form thin sheet brass, copper or steel into domes or anything that needs to be dished. I don't use them often, but when you need them, you need them!
I like your bold assumptions! All too often model makers aim for perfection, which was never the intent of the builder of working boats. From my grad school research shipwrights contracted for a fixed price per ton, which in the late 18th and early 19th-Centuries was £3 ($10)/ton. The hull to be delivered by a specific date. No room for anything fancy unless the owner specified it in the contract and made provisions for the extra costs. There were no provisions for increased timber, iron ware or labor costs for the builder, which were quite common. From the probate records of builders on the North Shore of Massachusetts only two of several builders had positive assets on their death. Probably the same on the south coast. Of the two builders who did leave a positive estate, one worked like a clerk of the works and the owner was responsible for labor and materials costs the other was also a land speculator where he made his money. I assume that accessories like ship's boats were contracted cost per boat, so the builder was not going to go beyond what was absolutely essential for the safe operation. Keep the videos coming Tom.
Hey Bob, I had a feeling boatbuilding was, as it probably is today, a narrow profit business. I don't imagine seeing a boat builder living in a 15 room house. Interesting and sad that the two builders with any money left in their estates made if from something other than building boats. Be well and I hope we get the chance to see each other soon, T
@@shipmodelguy When I was building boats in the mid 50s (between college & college - long story) I was paid a grand sum of $1.30 an hour, the master builder was getting $2/hour. At the same time a framing carpenter with an 8 point crosscut saw and 32oz hammer was paid $2.75/hour - hardly seems fair - whole different skill set. One Salem builder was declared a bankrupt in 1803 and when the case was settled and his assets sold, each creditor got back 60cents for every dollar owed. One interesting article listed in the bankruptcy auction inventory was 17,000 black locust treenails. At that time each would have been made by hand and they were probably paid about 2-3 cents each.
Trod, If you're referring to the book by Willits Ansel, YES-absolutely buy it. You can find it new, on Amazon for about $20, US. Ans this is the updated version.
@@trondsb1313 The second edition has in the title, "A study from 1850-2014" I just ordered a copy of that one. It has a forward by Willits Ansel's son, Walter and, I'm willing to bet has some info on the new boats built for Charles W. Morgan's 39th voyage, back in 2014.
certain that the whalers were undaunted and reckless people. With spears and as a weapon of harpoons they had to bring home bread for the whole family.
Most green hand whalers had no idea what they were signing on for. Voyages lasted 3-5 years and often the seamen came home with little or no money. A tough way to make a living-if you lived.
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hello teacher.I'm the "boy" from Florence.Finally another tutorial on the whaling ship.I thank you for everything you publish.I think that, having never built a model of a wooden ship, I have
You are very welcome
Thank you Tom. I can not begin to tell you how much I appreciate your videos
Thanks for all your comment, Ed. Glad you're enjoying the videos. Tom
Very well done. Editing and narration is top notch. Entertaining and captivating even for non modelers. I agree with the points you have made.
I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. Especially nice coming from someone who not a builder. Thanks.
Well done, Tom, as usual. And yes, I am glad I stuck around to the end.
Thank you, easpin. Somehow I get the vague feeling it was only to see me admit of making a mistake at the end...
Thank you Tom for this excellent series. Always a pleasure to see these episodes. You learn so many techniques and it is so well executed.
Thanks, Jean-Paul. Hope you continue to watch and enjoy.
you are not only an ax master, but you are a monster in building these jewels. hi from Florence
Don't think I've ever been called an axe master before, but thanks for the compliment. And "hello" from snowy Cape Cod.
Loved the editing on this one! ❤️
Thanks, Mo. The feeling's mutual. I've been enjoying your content, as well.
A very interesting and informative video. It's great for us newbies who would have no idea how best to tackle such jobs, and you explain things very clearly.
It's not hard to come up with the concepts for these videos. All I have to do is think back to all the stuff I didn't know when I started, and a whole catalog of content is up for grabs. The hard part is trying not to blather on endlessly-much harder.
Wow it seems every time I watch a video from you I learn something new. Thanks for taking time out of your busy life to share what you have learned over the years. I for one really appreciate the time and effort you put into this. You have definitely forgot more about model ships than I know but I am definitely going to get to were you are. So I hope.
The main reason I make these videos is the hope that someone will pick up a little something they didn't know before. It's become my way of pay back, or paying forward the generosity others have and continue to show me. Thanks! Tom
Superb presentation
Thanks a lot
You make valid and quite important points concerning the interpretation of detail authenticity. BTW - I agree with your tabernacle joinery view. It seems obvious from the shadows and it is also much stronger than sitting in a rebate. If the pieces are not properly fit, a rebate could split a layer of wood from the top of the cross frame. A full notch could be a little sloppy.
I have also sometimes noticed a dome block set in the background. Do you use this? And if so, briefly, what exactly for?
Thanks for saving me from having to explain why I did what I did with the tabernacle. Reducing the aft edge to 1/2" would have made the piece so weak right at the very spot that bears the brunt of the stress. I don't know if you noticed, but the tabernacle is already developing cracks at one or two spots where the screws cross the grain. Maybe they should have run the grain longitudinally, or just drilled larger pilot holes...
I'm not sure, but I think you're referring to the set of dapping tools (different sized round forms with a corresponding set if matching depressions?). Yes, I do use them to form thin sheet brass, copper or steel into domes or anything that needs to be dished. I don't use them often, but when you need them, you need them!
Always a pleasure, thanks…..
Richard, thank you. Glad to see you're still with me.
always enjoyable, thanks tom
Thanks for watching. Hope to see you around again.
I like your bold assumptions! All too often model makers aim for perfection, which was never the intent of the builder of working boats. From my grad school research shipwrights contracted for a fixed price per ton, which in the late 18th and early 19th-Centuries was £3 ($10)/ton. The hull to be delivered by a specific date. No room for anything fancy unless the owner specified it in the contract and made provisions for the extra costs. There were no provisions for increased timber, iron ware or labor costs for the builder, which were quite common. From the probate records of builders on the North Shore of Massachusetts only two of several builders had positive assets on their death. Probably the same on the south coast. Of the two builders who did leave a positive estate, one worked like a clerk of the works and the owner was responsible for labor and materials costs the other was also a land speculator where he made his money. I assume that accessories like ship's boats were contracted cost per boat, so the builder was not going to go beyond what was absolutely essential for the safe operation.
Keep the videos coming Tom.
Hey Bob,
I had a feeling boatbuilding was, as it probably is today, a narrow profit business. I don't imagine seeing a boat builder living in a 15 room house. Interesting and sad that the two builders with any money left in their estates made if from something other than building boats.
Be well and I hope we get the chance to see each other soon,
T
@@shipmodelguy When I was building boats in the mid 50s (between college & college - long story) I was paid a grand sum of $1.30 an hour, the master builder was getting $2/hour. At the same time a framing carpenter with an 8 point crosscut saw and 32oz hammer was paid $2.75/hour - hardly seems fair - whole different skill set. One Salem builder was declared a bankrupt in 1803 and when the case was settled and his assets sold, each creditor got back 60cents for every dollar owed. One interesting article listed in the bankruptcy auction inventory was 17,000 black locust treenails. At that time each would have been made by hand and they were probably paid about 2-3 cents each.
@@robertcraig5741 It seems no matter the time frame (past or present) masters and artists are rarely appreciated in their own lifetimes.
Very good video Tom. Would you recommend to buy this book? Does it have a few or many interesting learing point when building a model ship?
Trod,
If you're referring to the book by Willits Ansel, YES-absolutely buy it. You can find it new, on Amazon for about $20, US. Ans this is the updated version.
@@shipmodelguy Thank, then I will do that.
@@shipmodelguy When I went online for the book there is a volume 1 and volume 2. What is the difference? which to buy?
@@trondsb1313 The second edition has in the title, "A study from 1850-2014" I just ordered a copy of that one. It has a forward by Willits Ansel's son, Walter and, I'm willing to bet has some info on the new boats built for Charles W. Morgan's 39th voyage, back in 2014.
You can't go wrong with either one, really.
certain that the whalers were undaunted and reckless people. With spears and as a weapon of harpoons they had to bring home bread for the whole family.
Most green hand whalers had no idea what they were signing on for. Voyages lasted 3-5 years and often the seamen came home with little or no money. A tough way to make a living-if you lived.