A Look at the Canucks' Changes and Potential Lines for Next Season

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  • @paul.dhaliwal
    @paul.dhaliwal 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +123

    Can’t split up that third line that worked so well last year

    • @matthewjudge3763
      @matthewjudge3763 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@paul.dhaliwal I wanna see Petterson between Josh and Garly.

    • @fbsiubvsitdhdhjuk
      @fbsiubvsitdhdhjuk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@matthewjudge3763No. Petey needs to get his own line going.

    • @chadrichards6607
      @chadrichards6607 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that was last year

    • @MrFernandes85
      @MrFernandes85 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chadrichards6607 for 58 minutes total

    • @jayb4779
      @jayb4779 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes I agree why split up that magic

  • @squiggleface3631
    @squiggleface3631 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +150

    I feel cautiously optimistic. Often a breakout year might be followed by a step back. I'm hoping this doesn't happen to the Canucks like it did after their playoff success in the playoff bubble of 2020. I'm cheering for my local team but I've been burned too many times with my lofty expectations.

    • @J-jizzy_
      @J-jizzy_ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I think they will have a season with the same record, but with lower highs and higher lows. I expect it to be a very consistent season in terms of goal%.

    • @ajbolt7
      @ajbolt7 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      If nothing else, the 2020 off-season was an absolute disaster and it was crystal clear the roster was worse going into the 2020-21 season. This hasn’t been something like that.
      I’m expecting a step back this year after the breakout season but what happened after the 2020 playoffs was far more extreme than just a step back lmao

    • @Ryyder64
      @Ryyder64 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey! No reason to talk about the devils like that! 😂

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Completely different situation. They are not even remotely comparable

    • @r_v_t_
      @r_v_t_ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      think we'll take a step back but I feel better about the rest of division (excluding Oilers) than this time last year.

  • @chrisgoodings4450
    @chrisgoodings4450 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I dont think you split up Garland and Joshua. Miller centering those 2 would be an insane line.

    • @Just-a-Canuck
      @Just-a-Canuck 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh yea, I honestly didn’t think about miller between those guys.
      Debrusk petty boeser
      Joshua miller garland
      If that worked it would be wicked

    • @dinarseklers4409
      @dinarseklers4409 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Really liked Garland-Joshua-Blueger trio doing well last season

  • @nyern
    @nyern 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    Hoping to see two Elias Petterssons confusing every announcer this season

    • @kellismith4329
      @kellismith4329 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They can pull masks like the Killer Bees

    • @brandonliu596
      @brandonliu596 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They had the Sedins for decades I think they can handle it😂

    • @GWh135
      @GWh135 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@brandonliu596 The Sedins had different first names. Definitely not the same thing

    • @Just-a-Canuck
      @Just-a-Canuck 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      D petty making the team this year?!?’ That would be wild!
      I can’t wait for a all swede stud d line of D petty and willander

  • @bimjenning6962
    @bimjenning6962 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    Hope Lekkerimaki has a good camp and starts off on EP40’s wing. If he’s ready for NHL minutes that makes things very interesting for Toch

    • @trevorscollon
      @trevorscollon 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @bimjenning6962 it's unrealistic that Lekk cracks the opening night roster. It's better for his development to give him the full season in Abby.

    • @bzhouka9679
      @bzhouka9679 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@bimjenning6962 his game is still very raw and he needs ironing out on the d side of the puck and his off puck positioning

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@trevorscollon Yes that’s why he used the word “hope”

    • @nicholaslouie7590
      @nicholaslouie7590 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@trevorscollon Tocchet gets the final say in that, if he ends up looking ready then it's hard to pass up.

    • @420camk
      @420camk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@bimjenning6962 He's likely starting in Abby. Might see him come up for a couple games this season though. Even if he does kill it at training camp, I dont see tochett bumping anyone down out of top 3 lines currently.

  • @darkshadowgamer8627
    @darkshadowgamer8627 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    Wouldn't keeping the third line we had last season be good though given their chemistry?

    • @Spectra115
      @Spectra115 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @darkshadowgamer8627 Yeah I love Shannon to bits but I'm glad he's not picking the lines. That third line needs to stick together.

    • @SMA2343
      @SMA2343 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Spectra115he said he used Cap Friendly’s depth chart

    • @Spectra115
      @Spectra115 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@SMA2343 fair enough, I'm just a huge believer in Garland/Joshua/Bleuger

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Joshua and Garland should stay together. They’re so much better on the same line than they are separately

  • @DarkBeoulve
    @DarkBeoulve 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    As Canucks Fan. I like the additions they made. I believe there top six is better now than last year with DeBrusk. Im excited for next season!

    • @J-jizzy_
      @J-jizzy_ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Defensive depth is worse though….

    • @johnnybaxter1953
      @johnnybaxter1953 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@J-jizzy_ They’re going to get another D man before the deadline

    • @remimk
      @remimk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@J-jizzy_ If hronek can produce like the first half then we'll just need to rely on Demko and Silovs a bit more. and since Tocchet style is very defence heavy then hopefully we'll be okay

    • @tomv7949
      @tomv7949 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They didn't have Zadorov until late November so they still had their 12-3-1 start without him with generally the same defense.

    • @paullarsen4987
      @paullarsen4987 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Playing Demko less during regular season is a must do. He had double hip surgery to repair impingement, bone on bone and torn labrum as a young man. Hip issues will be more often as he ages. If the Canucks stumble this year he should be traded. That being said he is an amazing goaltender and I will miss him

  • @Kinesicz
    @Kinesicz 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    We really need some of our prospects to start producing.

    • @420camk
      @420camk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We don't have many lol and they're all still a year or two away.

  • @saedo9723
    @saedo9723 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    i wouldn't mind seeing a joshua-miller-garland line

    • @fitzy3000
      @fitzy3000 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That would be awesome

    • @blackcatsandbooks86
      @blackcatsandbooks86 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      i jus think you can’t split up miller and boeser, when they start goin together they’re magic

    • @the5thlineplaymaker131
      @the5thlineplaymaker131 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@blackcatsandbooks86yea Tocchet will keep them together if they’re both healthy for sure. Idk why everybody is overlooking their great advanced stats and production all season and post season

    • @debuthunter5389
      @debuthunter5389 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Joshua Petey Garland maybe

    • @blackcatsandbooks86
      @blackcatsandbooks86 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@debuthunter5389 i could see this happening

  • @hughesfan4343
    @hughesfan4343 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Debrusk-Petey-Hog
    Heinen-JT-Boeser
    Dak-Blueger-Garland
    Pod-Suter-Sherwood
    are the right lines for me. I also wouldn't mind swapping Hog and Bowser if Petey struggles again. I trust JT to produce regardless of who he plays with. If Debrusk and Petey work well and Hog starts to struggle I'd like to see Podz given a chance - Maybe has a similar development to Nichuskin (except we hopefully keep him).

    • @carlyejameson1752
      @carlyejameson1752 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These are great possible line ups!!

  • @alexstephens8587
    @alexstephens8587 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Swap Garland and Hoglander and I agree with ya 100%

    • @ultranate8618
      @ultranate8618 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's what I wanna see, too

  • @HaydenCharette-mr5ul
    @HaydenCharette-mr5ul 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Desharnais better be a regular with the money they gave him. I'm not a Canucks fan, but I like this roster. This team should at the very least be a good playoff contender.

  • @RobHFirstReflect
    @RobHFirstReflect 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    We think alike!
    Everyone's been assuming it'll be JT + Boeser & EP40 + DeBrusk, and then keeping The Life Line together as the 3rd. But to me, that leaves serious deficiencies on the top 2 lines no matter who gets slotted in there.
    The only thing I'd change right away compared to Shannon's depth chart is swapping Garland and Hoglander. And then it's really about seeing who clicks.
    I think Hoglander clicks a bit better with Suter than he does with Blueger. So it would be awesome if Heinen happens to have instant chemistry with those two. Could be the second coming of a new Life Line if we get that lucky.
    DeBrusk --- EP40 --- Boeser
    Joshua --- JT --- Garland
    Heinen --- Suter --- Hoglander
    Sherwood --- Blueger --- Podz
    What I really like about that structure is that it's super clear and easy how everybody slots up when injuries occur. The Bottom 9 have especially similar types. And I can just picture the Canucks wearing teams down with wave after wave of similar forechecking, creating frustration and power plays. And not much worry having any of those lines out there against any other team's top 2 lines.
    I'd call it...consistency. And when lines do get shuffled for whatever reason, nobody has to alter their role. The guys can know their assignments and know what's expected of them. I think I like it

    • @user-kt8kr4cu4h
      @user-kt8kr4cu4h 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hm, that third line scares me

    • @kodychong9568
      @kodychong9568 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@user-kt8kr4cu4h- scares you in a good or bad way lol ????

    • @Jeff_Ayo
      @Jeff_Ayo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I honestly love that lineup, JT could take good years from Joshua and garland and elevate them even more

    • @vancitycanucks
      @vancitycanucks 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree. Miller can elevate gars and Joshua.

    • @JH-jw7pu
      @JH-jw7pu 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I actually really like this! The first line would be high scoring, but that’s a monster of a second line. Imagine going up against those three guys, all of whom have an aggressive style of play.

  • @primomoreau
    @primomoreau 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Like the additions. But no matter what, in Tocchet we trust to keep everyone pulling the same direction. They need that strong direction.

  • @RobPlays.OldGames
    @RobPlays.OldGames 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Good forward depth, solid goaltending if healthy, the D took a step back from the playoffs roster, still a weak division and some cap to work with to add a 3rd pairing LHD. Playoffs a lock i'd bet.

  • @comoxvalleycurbappealltd.5311
    @comoxvalleycurbappealltd.5311 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for your enlightening insight and thoughts… an intriguing year ahead!

  • @synergygaming65
    @synergygaming65 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Definitely a 'win by committee' lineup

  • @warrenyellowknee672
    @warrenyellowknee672 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hoglander is the dark
    Hourse this coming up season 20-25 . This is his season to make or break. My fav player on the ice. Always committed & ferocious on the fore check

  • @GR-bn3xj
    @GR-bn3xj 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I feel good about the team. You always worry about when you have multiple players have breakout seasons if they can do it again. Hopefully the experience from this past season helps us in the playoffs next season. I lived Hoglander in the regular season, but he seemed to disappear during the playoffs

  • @yoholmes273
    @yoholmes273 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As an American 🇺🇸
    NJ Devils fan with no dog in this hunt, I will be brief.
    I always root for Vancouver 🍁 until I can not.
    " The heritage of the sport is Western Canada 🇨🇦 & despite ... it is still look you in the eye, 👀 answer the question if you can, down to Earth 🌎 people that you love" ❤️ - Doc Emrick 1995

  • @richardmiller5818
    @richardmiller5818 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I like the logo

  • @RM-we7px
    @RM-we7px 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Rather Debrusk than Guentzel. I’m fine with the moves.

    • @stevenrosscarpenter
      @stevenrosscarpenter 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Especially comparing their cap hits. DeBrusk is also bigger and plays tougher.

  • @user-qj2yb9es4b
    @user-qj2yb9es4b 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    youtube is unsubscribing your subscribers. I was unsubscribed. Love your Channel. TH-cam must be censoring the canucks like Sportsnet.

  • @Agrewal101
    @Agrewal101 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hope we still on for the meet up , it's supposed to be better weather not so hot 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @ryanatkinson9622
    @ryanatkinson9622 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Canucks had 5 all stars last year. Guentzal would have been great but I think they have more depth this way with the ability to add more. I’m very interested in this season and hoping they can do better.
    My hopes last year were that they just made the playoffs but they proved they could beat anyone and now I’d like to see them get to the next round and further.
    I’d say my expectation for this year is at least second round but it’s never easy.

  • @bjmclennan
    @bjmclennan 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hard to see the moves they've made as anything other than positive, but we've definitely got more moves to make if we're looking to make a serious cup run this year. As stated, our defensive depth is severely lacking. Desharnais has been on an upward trend and I'll be interested to see if he can live up to the hype that management seems to be putting into him. Getting a solid puck-mover has to still be the end goal though, and our trade pieces are somewhat limited if that's the agenda. Hoglander or Podkolzin seem like likely candidates if they can't perform to where we want them, and Forbort is probably the easiest move candidate for dmen. Overall very excited to see how things shake down for the team this season, playoffs will be just as exciting as they were this year.

    • @dungeree7292
      @dungeree7292 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You won't be making a serious cup run. Your season ends in Edmonton in 5 games max

  • @NathanCase33
    @NathanCase33 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I like the moves. I agree with we need a top 4 dman

  • @zjsz4954
    @zjsz4954 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh yeah baby this is what we’ve been waiting for this is what it’s all about

  • @sloppyjoe4521
    @sloppyjoe4521 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As much as I like the current 3rd line If we are going to pay garland 4.9m it would be great if he could fit on a line with Petey and Debrusk and have Joshua with Miller and Boeser

  • @MySundin13
    @MySundin13 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of my fav jerseys....I need to order one sometime

  • @mattwilliams7454
    @mattwilliams7454 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Not sure about the debrusk signing yet. Hopefully someone develops chemistry with Pettersson. Zadorov was really nice to have though.

    • @remimk
      @remimk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah unfortunately Kuzmenko was the one with chemistry with him...

  • @canuckfreak007
    @canuckfreak007 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hoglander's last season gave a Cliff Ronning feel to it. I really hope he's able to follow it up with another solid outing. This is the best he's looked since his rookie year.. at least with the big Club

  • @patrickbaklava7297
    @patrickbaklava7297 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That hat is so sick

  • @gordonmacdowell8117
    @gordonmacdowell8117 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be great if the Canucks didn't have dip into their LTIR until after the season starts, because it gives them additional benefits and flexibility to pounce on available players. I like what the Canucks did this offseason, but considering when during the last offseason they got DeSmith and Lafferty, I don't think anyone should think they're done yet.
    I see them running back that successful third line again this season, because on many nights it was their best line, but there's a question about whether Blueger or Suter centre which of the depth lines. I see the Canucks as continuing to use the new NHL style of doing scoring lines as pairs and plugging in a third player, meaning DeBrusk and Boeser would be on separate lines. Heinen will probably get a shot at Suter's spot on the wing, with Miller and Boeser. Sherwood is a great 4th liner who might move up the roster from time to time, which also gives him the opportunity to take Suter's spot on the wing of a scoring line.

  • @andrewwhiffen3340
    @andrewwhiffen3340 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don’t know if I have the same enthusiasm as you. Joshua and Hoglander as 2nd line wingers just don’t do it for me.

  • @RobDucharme
    @RobDucharme 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:49 Everyone in the know is saying DeBrusk is a true Tocchet player. I'm excited for that reason.
    1:03 Given how Petts STARTED the season, that injury had to be more nagging than he let on. And I'm ok with that, because it shows he doesn't play it up and he doesn't openly make excuses.
    1:50 In the spirit of Rutherford (paraphrasing), if everything goes right, these two will have success this season. They're building on something special.
    2:04 I don't care what people say about Benning. I know he was terrible with sh!t contracts and some pretty forgettable trades, but that Miller trade is ONE of the best in Canucks history. Not THE best, but among the best.
    3:31 Given that he wears 53, there were times last season where he actually looked like Horvat with his finish in front of the net. It was so weird... He has skill. He's quietly quite the complete package for what he's hired to do.
    4:21 I watched Bains play here in Red Deer. He looked like a man among boys when he was on the ice. I think he just needs a bit more time to develop and adjust to dominate more in the AHL, and he's pretty close to that point now. I guess September will paint a better picture.
    7:59 More importantly, unlike the Benning era, Allvin has a whole team of specific subordinates who work together to help guide his decisions. That's why we're no longer seeing a lot of bad contracts. There have been some risky trades, but I understand what they're doing in those situations. It's a dynamic situation and sometimes you have to take those risks. The turnaround from the Green/Benning era has been stunning to say the least.
    10:00 Here's why I'm excited: They made sure they remained BIG on their D-core size (we can ignore Hugs' height, as he's almost impossible to chase when he has the puck). They signed a cap-friendly top six player who is perfect for Toccs to coach. They signed a top 9 winger who still has growing to do, but has been pretty good so far. They signed a bottom six physical player that Hugs himself was excited to no longer have to play against. They didn't put all their eggs in one basket the way past GMs would do. Now, we just have to see how this revamped lineup gels. Argue and disagree all you want, but this is a solid lineup.

  • @kevjones5047
    @kevjones5047 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cautiously optimistic

  • @patrickday1816
    @patrickday1816 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If I'm Tocchet, I'm not putting Hoglander in the top 6 over Garland. Garland is a clutch player, and deserves to play with two other clutch linemates. I'm also playing Sherwood with Suter and Heinen, as there's more untapped potential in Sherwood. Hoglander can hang with Podz and Blueger.
    Debrusk-Pettersson-Boeser
    Joshua-Miller-Garland
    Heinen-Suter-Sherwood
    Podkolzin-Blueger-Hoglander

    • @brianpistolwhip
      @brianpistolwhip 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Your lines look the best 👌

    • @aleagleton6427
      @aleagleton6427 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree

    • @CME-4575
      @CME-4575 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Seeing garlands effort in game 7 compared to the rest of the team, i think he really deserves a shot in the top 6 to start the season

    • @remimk
      @remimk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CME-4575 The guy never gives up

    • @8r3nYT
      @8r3nYT 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Would honestly have DeBrusk and Boeser with Miller instead and then Joshua Garland with Petey. I like Miller Boeser combo too much lol

  • @JCanucks30
    @JCanucks30 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im happy with what we've down to the forward corps. I think Debrusk is an upgrade on Lindholm especially given his age and contract, hopefully he can be the answer to Peteys missing winger, and adding sherwood / heinen gives us really good depth and energizing players. Can see both of them being fan favs next season.
    There's a lot to be desired defensively - I think signing both Myers and Desharnais was a mistake. It should have been one of the other. Myers had a great season last year but was partly because of his reduced role playing on the bottom pair. If he or Desharnais are relied on to play top 4, I don't think thats a recipe for success. Even if we end up signing a puck moving RD, that results in having Myers / Desharnais healthied, which would be 2-3m in the box. I think saving that salary and combing our remaining cap to Zadorov would have been a wiser move. Perhaps they want to keep the right side open for a Willander appearance after his colege season??
    I don't mind Forbort, but we're a Soucy injury away (who is already injury prone) from having him play in our top 4 as well, which is yikes. This seems like a D core that Benning would run, which gives me confidence that there's still a move or 2 left up current management's sleeve. I don't think Allvin and Rutherford are dumb enough to think this is a championship blueline. Or perhaps keep that cap space and make a trade to acquire someone like R. Andersson mid-season.

  • @rayevans7484
    @rayevans7484 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like the direction they've gone, no huge contracts, but some nice depth pieces. I don't think Management is finished, as witnessed by the flexibility with the Cap. There are quite a few teams over the Cap, meaning NHL talent will be available at under the Market prices..

  • @quinnbailey7340
    @quinnbailey7340 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey Shannon. Been following you for years. Love the work you do.
    I dont think that Boeser moves from Millers side.
    I think Sherwood is more used to playing the left side too. Right!??
    What about McWard as a depth callup?

  • @PixelBoyS2
    @PixelBoyS2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been waiting for this video. Didn't really care what the other teams were doing 😂😂😂

  • @Kitchenwench69
    @Kitchenwench69 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The moves were great. The understanding of what type of player this team needs but also making sure they'll align with the system (this may age like milk). And the fact the guys we got seemed legitimately stoked makes it so much more fun

  • @TheChronicFiend
    @TheChronicFiend 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shanon always saying:well he had a career year...let me tell you...lots of players here had career years!😂

  • @lizardjesus2501
    @lizardjesus2501 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Really wish we kept zadorov

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I wish they had too, but I think that contract will age like milk in Boston.

    • @lizardjesus2501
      @lizardjesus2501 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TheHockeyGuy why ?

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      He is turning 30 and physical defensemen who take too many penalties don't age well.

  • @danielfelzmann7241
    @danielfelzmann7241 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think you have one star centre with one star winger, with miller and petey obviously being the centres and boeser and debrusk being the wingers. The other two wingers will should be what all the players are working towarsds with the exception of the joshua blueger garland line.

  • @andrewgreen815
    @andrewgreen815 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looking good again Lotus Land.

  • @clearthesmoke999
    @clearthesmoke999 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A very objective view as per usual; great synopsis.
    I'm actually a fan of the Barrie train, let's just keep throwing darts after an overachieving season!

  • @j.t.miller1641
    @j.t.miller1641 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Joshua Miller Boeser
    DeBrusk Pettersson Garland
    Heinen Suter Hoglander
    Podz/PDG Bleuger Sherwood
    Forecheckers and finishers on each line. I expect Hoglander to be on pp2 this season so 3rd line minutes would be perfect. Definitely a few combinations can be made

  • @RyanThompson-xe8lt
    @RyanThompson-xe8lt 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    DeBrusk Pettersson Sherwood - (similar to VGK's Barbashev Eichel Marchessault line)
    Heinen Miller Boeser
    Joshua Bluegar Garland
    PDG Suter Podkolzin
    Trade Hoglander at peak value + dead cap.

  • @thejanwe2002
    @thejanwe2002 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    What do you think about Kylington? Someone who is more mobile for 2nd/3rd pairing role

  • @squidMB
    @squidMB 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hopefully Lekkerimaki somehow makes his way into getting some minutes for the canucks this season.

  • @jameshenry5274
    @jameshenry5274 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shannon, Alvin is such a relief after Benning (Mr. I Really Like this Guy, he was so good five years ago, I'll pay twice his current value) He is not trying to trick other teams. He is making common sense trades that work for the Canucks. Healthy Demko, healthy Soucy, Myers steps up a little bit based on solid coaching, and we could be a contender. I am so happy with the Joshua deal.

  • @pegasus6116
    @pegasus6116 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Miller - Pettersson - Lekkerimaki
    Debrusk - Hagens - Boeser
    Joshua - Raty - Garland
    Hoglander - Heinen - Podkolzin
    Hughes - Willander
    Pettersson - Hronek
    Soucy - Myers
    Demko
    Silovs

  • @kevinvaillancourt5737
    @kevinvaillancourt5737 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Canucks fan here since the early 90s. I agree with most of your take, except that I think we're going to see another below-average season from Petey. I watched him very closely all last year, and there is something wrong. Could be the tendinitis, could be something mental, could be something unknown. Nobody knows for sure. Except itis clear from watching him flinch, wince, and fall so much that there is something wrong. Since we haven't seen any word about it, other than the tendinitis issue (and I don't been to downplay this, it's a serious condition, but it also wasn't something the medical team knew about, so this raises questions). I hope he gets it together, for his sake as well as the Canuck's, but my concern is that he's just been beaten down into, I don't know how to put it in words, but like an over-abused person who expects a slap when someone raises their hand to shake? I'm really concerned about him.

    • @samslone9457
      @samslone9457 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think he may be the biggest mistake of this current management. They shouldn't have pressured him into signing. Something is definitely off with that guy

  • @JCanucks30
    @JCanucks30 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think next year itll be:
    Debrusk Petey Hoglander
    Heinen Miller Boeser
    Joshua Bleuger Garland
    Aman Suter Podkolzin
    our F group is very versatile. For instance, Suter can slot in on L2 where hes had success with 9 and 6, moving Heinen down to the 4th and 88 in C4, or move Joshua up to L2 and drop Heinen to L3, put 40 between 81 and 8, reunite the lotto line... plenty of more combos we can work with. I agree that having another top 6 forward would be beneficial, but I think our D is top priority right now. Cant have Myers playing top 4 minutes.

  • @MeloGuy-xs9fq
    @MeloGuy-xs9fq 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If I wanted to get the new Anaheim Ducks Jersey away and at home with a team players name on it, it would cost me approximately $1,600 before taxes preordered. When they start showing me that they really wanna put a really good team on the ice then I’ll buy those super expensive jerseys otherwise I’ll use the ones I have with the old logo..

  • @JH-jw7pu
    @JH-jw7pu 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tocchet has heavily spoken about creating duos throughout the 23-24 season, so I think it’s unlikely he will break up Miller+Boeser and Joshua+Garland, unless DeBrusk happens to have better chemistry with either Miller or Boeser than he does with Pettersson. At this moment, DeBrusk is supposed to be Pettersson’s duo partner but I could see Pettersson+Boeser and DeBrusk+Miller being the new duos. No way Joshua+Garland is broken up because their chemistry is so strong that you could put almost any centre between them, and they would put up points.

  • @troubleondemand7703
    @troubleondemand7703 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the moves they made and the fact that they didn't get sucked into a huge contract with excessive term. Alvin and Rutherford and have shown they can work some magic via trades and pickups so hopefully they can get our D squared away during the season.

  • @kcshfl
    @kcshfl 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Decently excited with who the Canucks were able to grab in free agency. I think this will be a bit of a step back year compared to the overachievement of last year. But I think the Canucks will be a better playoff team.

  • @deepaktoor7376
    @deepaktoor7376 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pesce, cole would have been huge. As soon as they got defensemen (hronek, soucy, cole) they became good. Garland is a top 6 player. Debrusk doesnt move the needle. Petterson can though, need to see the shot and one t back.
    Chychrun, walker, roy. Really miscalculated free agency. Teuravainen, marchessault would have been incredible over debrusk at the same cap. Cant hope for him to become different once you sign him- players usually are who they are.
    Boeser i would trade for meier if i could. Hes smart enough to make up for the skating, but button hooking every time, i just think it would be best to sell high. Like they did with horvat but failed to do with virtanen and demko/markstrom

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No one wanted Virtanen. They tried to trade him, but he had a bad reputation around the NHL. Ian Cole was brutal in the playoffs, so bringing him back would not have worked. You're underrating DeBrusk.
      If they trade Boeser for that Meier contract, I might lose my mind.

    • @danquast1914
      @danquast1914 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Garland has never been a top 6 guy. He was terrible playing on the first or second line. Only found success once he was moved to the 3rd. Remember, we have tried to trade him multiple times and not one team wanted him

    • @deepaktoor7376
      @deepaktoor7376 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheHockeyGuy
      tldr; thanks for engaging with me!
      virtanen i think they could have gotten something during his 20 goal season, before the off ice stuff. but yeah maybe thats why mccann didnt fetch anything either.
      the top 4 is a problem. the vast improvement to the team this year was simple- capable defenders. goalies and forwards didnt change much. before that it was hughes + myers + ahlers holding the fort. thats not going to work, and you mentioned goals for were the same, while goals against improved alot. soucy and cole simply pinning guys instead of getting beat clean made a huge difference. things are always a confluence of factors, but i think tocchet got a lot of credit while the 3 dmen didnt as much.
      so i thought people were underestimating hroneks contribution (and with his shot on the powerplay it would be even more). soucy, their record was nuts with him in the lineup. cole had bad luck during the playoffs with pucks bouncing off him, but hes still a bonafide nhl defenceman that i trust to be a #4. myers the consensus feels like hes a 3rd pair D/#5. forbort and desharnais im not 100% wouldnt get scratched at points during the season. and make poor plays with the puck like i saw desharnais have to run around after these playoffs.
      meier- i know thats a hot take but things change so rapidly in the nhl. he had a down year on a new team, but he was the "darling" at that trade deadline and i think he was legit for it. power forward, good skating, nice shot. i think you can buy low on him now, kinda like i cant believe how chychrun got a 1st rd pick in one year and then a 3rd the next.
      debrusk my problem is hes streaky. and hes had ample opportunity in the top 6 with players like bergeron and pastrnak. i think players play to their best in bostons system (like krug, zacha) so i would expect his production has topped out. and thats 5.5 cap where you could get someone who generates more, like teuravainen or marchessault.
      obviously could be wrong about it all, i loved the jets roster and picked them to win it. on ice theres a big difference vs on paper and i cant figure it out.

    • @deepaktoor7376
      @deepaktoor7376 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@danquast1914 i think if im counting who i can count on to create offense in the top 6, he is one of them. and he was one of them throughout the playoffs, maybe behind miller and boeser only.
      he makes plays and holds on to the puck. thats what you need.
      and top 6 to me doesnt necessarily mean top 2 lines. like i would put him on the 3rd line with blueger and joshua because of the chemistry. but when i count how to spend money on forwards, i have $ being spent on miller, boeser, petterson...debrusk now, garland. and then joshua/hoglander as middle 6.

    • @missstar219
      @missstar219 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you’re not getting timo

  • @richardwise350
    @richardwise350 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks good, would be nice to add another defense man

  • @quinnlee9874
    @quinnlee9874 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel good about the Canucks free agent signings. My outlook is that GMs only lose on July 1st. No one really wins because you pay a premium. Because the Canucks made little moves in comparison to the cap space they did have, it was a smart offseason. They got tougher to play against. The only complaint I really have is I think the DeBrusk contract is a year too long but that’s what you have to pay on July the 1st.

  • @disruptive7640
    @disruptive7640 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BC hydro with its annual "let's turn off the power during a heatwave"

  • @mikebaxter247
    @mikebaxter247 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seems like the chemistry created last season is earased with these line combos -Miller/boeser, Joshua/garland/bleuger

  • @howinyee5962
    @howinyee5962 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im gonna be honest, i thought Vancouver overachieved last year and i dont see them replicating last year. Hronek had an insane hot start, i dont see that happening again, he got absolutely exposed in the playoffs. Desharnais is big and plays a simple game but lacks aggression for his size and lacks a bit of speed. Debrusk ive seen him in Boston lots and he either have good days and bad days half the time. Rest of the league are also aware of how well the team did last year so this team better be ready if they want that success again

  • @tonykung8756
    @tonykung8756 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Top line is gonna be Heinen-Pety-Debrusk, then it's probably Hog-Miller-Boeser, then it's DJ-Bluey-Garland, then it's Pods-Suter-Sherwood. Why are we messing up our 3rd line when we paid more money to keep Joshua? We kept him because we didn't want to lose that chemistry with Gars...

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Heinen really isn't a first liner. That's a recipe for disaster. Blueger doesn't belong ahead of Suter on the depth chart.

    • @tonykung8756
      @tonykung8756 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheHockeyGuy Unfortunately, we don't have anyone else on the team who can play full-time on the first line barring some rookie like Lekkerimaki who might surprise us. Our 3rd line of Dak-Bluey-Garland had the most success last season...

  • @chillspencer.4637
    @chillspencer.4637 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Optimistic. All the contracts we signed lately have been reasonable to good deals for us. Success comes down to Demko staying healthy.

  • @mattlau
    @mattlau 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let’s not forget we started last year with PDG next to Miller and Boeser. Then we had Mikheyev and Kuzmenko with a good part of the season with Petterson. Replace those 3 with DeBrusk, Heinen and Hoglander and we are looking better.

  • @Tykoon22
    @Tykoon22 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He has nothing to do with this, but for whatever reason, when you said the Canucks need another top four defenseman, Mattias Ohlund popped into my head since he was such a stabilizing presence on the blue line and one of the pillars of their top four for so long (almost his entire career). He was definitely one of my favorites when I was a kid and to this day, I still believe he was underrated. I guess I’m just curious about other peoples opinions on Ohlund… So, what say you?

  • @dungeree7292
    @dungeree7292 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Definitely taking a step back this year. They won't have a 105 PDO heater for the first thalf of the season

  • @MySundin13
    @MySundin13 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They got weaker. I also don't expect Boesser to pass 40 goals again

  • @remimk
    @remimk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    huge fan of the forward group. but it's left a small hole in our defence. That means hronek and Hughes need to step it up this season if we don't find the man we need. Losing Zadorov is a moderate blow to our defence. but if we can increase the attack and rely on Demko as we have in the past then I think we'll still be in good shape.

  • @amazingmonkey886
    @amazingmonkey886 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yup definitely some holes there. I'm hoping for a pleasant surprise from Abby. If one of Lekkeramaki, Willander, McWard, D-Petey can take a gigantic leap up to the NHL level that would potentially solve so many problems. Super happy we "missed" on Zadarov and Lindholm because those contracts would have hamstrung the canucks and even if we got them we would still be asking for a top 4 D and scoring winger. Everyone thinks the Oilers are a lock for first but I'm predicting major injuries to the Oilers and another stinker year for Skinner. They are due.

  • @omfg322
    @omfg322 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The forward group is imo much better but they may have to out score their problems on defense. Think steve dangle put it best that no one wants to play against all these pain in the ass players miller henien joshua garland sherwood. Hughes even said that during the playoffs, sherwood pissed off the whole team, glad hes here now.
    I may be out of touch saying this but your going to have to trade one of the defense pick ups plus a draft pick for a top 4 dman. Wait and see whos tanking, whos available and looks like a toccet player.

  • @jakerobins9059
    @jakerobins9059 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So many good forwards that could break into the lineup like Raty and Lekkerimaki that I think we have enough wingers to move one for a D man

  • @bzhouka9679
    @bzhouka9679 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    id put suter between joshua and garland, canucks fans seem to forget that suter centered that line at the start of the season and had success he just got injured and that’s when teddy blueger filled in there. imo blueger works better as a fourth liner than suter does as he’s grittier and can play in the d zone better whereas suter has a little more offensive skill

  • @shawnfisher7434
    @shawnfisher7434 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like our forward group but the D first pair is a #1,#2 to #3, 2nd pair is #4 and #5, 3rd pair are all #6's through #9's. We are asking a *lot* of Demko, someone who has struggled to stay healthy of late. If we grabbed a legit #3 d-man, I'd feel a lot better going into next year.

  • @JohnnySportsfan
    @JohnnySportsfan 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the moves they made were as good as they were going to get. I’m more impressed with their resistance to overpaying Guentzel or an equivalent.

  • @glenw-xm5zf
    @glenw-xm5zf 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think we drafted well. got more size

  • @jevereemetcalf2076
    @jevereemetcalf2076 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You have to keep the Lifeline together, last years 3rd line

  • @leematson8484
    @leematson8484 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’d like to at least re-visit the Blueger, Joshua, Garland combo that was so effective last season!

  • @ultranate8618
    @ultranate8618 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about Kessel? Picked up last season late from the knights. Hes seasoned and a hard checker thats what we are going to need to make it to the playoffs this season. Some intimidating D-men. 1970s Canuck hockey.

  • @Jeff_Ayo
    @Jeff_Ayo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do feel the team has gotten better, I think Debrusk is a upgrade in the top 6, I think Henin can replace what Lindholm did in the regular season and Sherwood is a fun pest to watch.
    Agree with what you said Joshua should move up to the 2nd line which wasn’t really a thing last year so get him more ice time and maybe he fills that void of having one more guy in that top 6
    At first I was ok with letting Zadorov go because of the overpayment for him but now am missing him the void he has left, not sure what move they can make at this point to upgrade the blue line.
    Also was bummed they weren’t players for Tarasenko

  • @tehdoughnut9862
    @tehdoughnut9862 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree the 2nd pair is subpar and deep offensive teams will take advantage

  • @connorkenney6938
    @connorkenney6938 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mathason in Montreal might be a good target. He has 2 years left on his contract around 4.5 million.

  • @ChiknNugg3s
    @ChiknNugg3s 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Woooo Canucks!

  • @jeremylizotte8992
    @jeremylizotte8992 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    According to that chart they have 7 defensemen vying to become a second pairing regular...That is great competition to have ...up until the trade line at least. One of them could rise to the occasion.

  • @Gem____F8
    @Gem____F8 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don’t think there’s any shot JT & Boeser get separated and I wouldn’t be shocked if Debrusk ends up playing with them most of the time, Pettersson is being paid like a superstar now and superstars don’t have their play determined by what wingers they have or have their bad stretches be blamed on said wingers so he can figure his play out himself cuz that’s what he’s being paid to do now.

  • @manpreetlally8465
    @manpreetlally8465 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't get why everyone assumes and wants Garland on the third line

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because ideally he is on the third line. When he's overplayed, it shows.

  • @ronpeacock9939
    @ronpeacock9939 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I will say.. I have always like the Canucks.. they've had the same problems as my team coming in at the same time. Though I will say, the colors you're wearing really needed to stay in the 70's.. both for the V and the skate... the stick n rink and Orca are not bad.. but the harvest gold, black and orange were the colors that made the 1970's decore outdated before they even were shown... I hope they continue to play well..

  • @jonasandersson6594
    @jonasandersson6594 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Garland with Pettersson and Höglander would be fun to watch. Two hard workers and a good passer.

  • @TheDeepShallow
    @TheDeepShallow 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Go Canucks Go!

  • @Canuck-Fiend
    @Canuck-Fiend 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly if you’re looking for the hardest working player who never plays half assed then that’s Connor garland.

  • @andersbondensson2042
    @andersbondensson2042 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good off season moves in general. Of course it would be nice to have Lindholm and Zadorov, when they did so well in the play offs, but no way for the contracts they got. Matching those contracts would have been a disaster.
    When the Canucks signed EP40 for eight years, they were pretty much set and should aim for the cup some years away when 11M will look cap friendly for a player of his caliber. So as long as they don’t screw up with some long term risky/bad signings, the upcomming years look very nice for a fan of the team.

  • @badassunicorn5351
    @badassunicorn5351 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What about Aiden Celibrini? His brother just signed with SJ, is he not good enough as a defenseman?

  • @jimgap3654
    @jimgap3654 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like your line up better than most I've seen, its almost what I've been saying.. the only difference I have is moving Hoglander down the line up as he struggled against the tougher matchups and did most of his scoring lower in the line up. Id keep Joshua/Garland together and slip Miller in between on the 2nd line.. they can all play matchup roles and defend.
    As for the defence and cap space etc.. I would be going hard after Rasmus Anderson. 2 years left on a great cap hit. Calgary has shown they are willing to deal with Alvin and they want younger roster players, picks and prospects for their rebuild. what's your thoughts on a Hoglander, McWard, 2025 1st rd pick kind of package. would you be willing to up the prospect level to a Willander? Would Rasmus fit Long term with Hughes as Willander was drafted to be?

  • @MajorCanada
    @MajorCanada 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Their forward group (which has depth that was insanely powerful last year) is even better.
    The loss of Zadorov will prove to make our right side 2nd pairing weaker.
    Goaltending should be a little weaker if Silovs goes to minors or doesn't play like he's wearing a Latvia jersey.

  • @shyladutt746
    @shyladutt746 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Feel goaltending will be a serious question mark for the Canucks post Demko health challenges as well as speed on the defense lines. Would like to hear your comments contrasting Canucks with the newly boosted Nashville team.

  • @James-ne2vb
    @James-ne2vb 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I dont think Miller and Boeser should ever be split up. Dynamic duo for the nucks

    • @guanaco103
      @guanaco103 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s why they’ll split them up, they already know what they got teams will mix and juggle lines so they can go back to them when they need them