Are you able to subjectively determine whether the majority of the sinkage is through the latex foam layers, rather than the coil layer? What I'm looking for is an extremely firm spring base but comfort layers that provide good pressure release for side sleeping. I want to feel the spring layers pressing back against me - is that your experience? Watching you bounce on this makes me think the springs are pretty sturdy.
A majority of the sinkage is through the latex. I wouldn't say the coil layer is extremely firm, but it's definitely creating most of the firmness and support.
Thank you, that is really helpful! The extremely high bounce height also suggests to me how sturdy and responsive the coils are. While I do understand how that makes motion transfer more pronounced, I think my biggest fear from past failed purchases is if the coil layer feels too soft and unsupportive, as it's led to lower back pain for me. Plush top layer with a firm spring layer seems ideal.
I was considering BB's ecosleep luxe, especially because of the unzippable cover, but watching you bounce on that one and the higher edge compression all suggested to me the springs in that mattress have more give compared to the ecocloud.
@@jaykeilai My pleasure. Glad I could help. You might consider the Saatva Latex Hybrid. See here - naplab.com/go/saatva-latex-hybrid-mattress Review here - naplab.com/mattress-reviews/saatva-latex-hybrid-review/ It's got a slightly firmer feel compared to Winkbed and EcoCloud. Sounds like it's what you're looking for.
@@NapLabReviews oh thanks for the recommendation. I do typically like the sleeping on feeling more than the contoured sink, but my girlfriend like plush, so that's why I was thinking the Wink Ecocloud would be a good compromise if it had a sturdy and responsive coil base. But it sounds like despite the extra firmness of the Saatva Latex Hybrid, you didn't find it suffered in the pressure relief department? I'm a thin, tall, mostly side sleeper, 6'0" 128lbs, while my girlfriend is curvier and only a little bit heavier but is more of combination sleeper, sometimes stomach, sometimes side, sometimes back. What's the difference in feeling of that topmost layer, 1in wool in the Saatva Latex vs an extra inch of egg-create cut talalay in the Ecocloud?
No, I don't believe that's what they are saying. On the product page it says it's made with "natural Talalay latex" If it was synthetic latex the wouldn't be able to make that claim. Winkbed also has OEKO-TEX 100 Certified Latex certification.
@NapLab Look more into the 100% all natural latex foam if you get the time. I know you're smarter than me, but lately, I've been researching on latex foam, and I've seen videos where people show how blended latex isnt as durable as the closer to 100% latex is. Companies can label natural latex because it's made with natural latex. Also, i believe the OEKO-TEX certification only has to do with off gassing and not latex purity. Natural latex looks different than what's in this video. I think only dunlop process can be listed as GOLS certified and talalay can not because it cant quite be 100% because of how its treated to be more open celled, but i believe only two manufacturers create a higher level of purity when it comes to the talalay.
I really wanted to give Arizona Premium mattress company a try, as it looks like you can build your own mattress for a lot cheaper, but ive read the small writing on some of the "latex foams" that are made by latexo, where its actually on a small percentage natural latex. The fine writing didn't want to spell out synthetic, so it was listed syn... Anyways i think it's important for those like me seeking high quality for durability. Im still on my journey as I've yet to find a mattress that can still be comfortable after 6 months. Thanks for your videos, btw.
@@clovertx901 Hrm...that's interesting. I'll have to dig into this more. I doubt it'll allay your fears, but just in case, I did double check the law tag this morning. EcoCloud's law tag has "latex foam" listed as the primary composition at 93%.
@@clovertx901 have you looked into Nolah natural mattress? They also use Talalay latex. Wondering how pure it is? I know Avocado uses dunlup but their green mattress may be too firm for side sleepers.
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Are you able to subjectively determine whether the majority of the sinkage is through the latex foam layers, rather than the coil layer? What I'm looking for is an extremely firm spring base but comfort layers that provide good pressure release for side sleeping. I want to feel the spring layers pressing back against me - is that your experience? Watching you bounce on this makes me think the springs are pretty sturdy.
A majority of the sinkage is through the latex. I wouldn't say the coil layer is extremely firm, but it's definitely creating most of the firmness and support.
Thank you, that is really helpful! The extremely high bounce height also suggests to me how sturdy and responsive the coils are. While I do understand how that makes motion transfer more pronounced, I think my biggest fear from past failed purchases is if the coil layer feels too soft and unsupportive, as it's led to lower back pain for me. Plush top layer with a firm spring layer seems ideal.
I was considering BB's ecosleep luxe, especially because of the unzippable cover, but watching you bounce on that one and the higher edge compression all suggested to me the springs in that mattress have more give compared to the ecocloud.
@@jaykeilai My pleasure. Glad I could help.
You might consider the Saatva Latex Hybrid. See here - naplab.com/go/saatva-latex-hybrid-mattress
Review here - naplab.com/mattress-reviews/saatva-latex-hybrid-review/
It's got a slightly firmer feel compared to Winkbed and EcoCloud. Sounds like it's what you're looking for.
@@NapLabReviews oh thanks for the recommendation. I do typically like the sleeping on feeling more than the contoured sink, but my girlfriend like plush, so that's why I was thinking the Wink Ecocloud would be a good compromise if it had a sturdy and responsive coil base.
But it sounds like despite the extra firmness of the Saatva Latex Hybrid, you didn't find it suffered in the pressure relief department? I'm a thin, tall, mostly side sleeper, 6'0" 128lbs, while my girlfriend is curvier and only a little bit heavier but is more of combination sleeper, sometimes stomach, sometimes side, sometimes back.
What's the difference in feeling of that topmost layer, 1in wool in the Saatva Latex vs an extra inch of egg-create cut talalay in the Ecocloud?
So textured and fabricated latex is probably a unique way of saying synthetic?
No, I don't believe that's what they are saying.
On the product page it says it's made with "natural Talalay latex"
If it was synthetic latex the wouldn't be able to make that claim. Winkbed also has OEKO-TEX 100 Certified Latex certification.
@NapLab Look more into the 100% all natural latex foam if you get the time. I know you're smarter than me, but lately, I've been researching on latex foam, and I've seen videos where people show how blended latex isnt as durable as the closer to 100% latex is. Companies can label natural latex because it's made with natural latex. Also, i believe the OEKO-TEX certification only has to do with off gassing and not latex purity. Natural latex looks different than what's in this video. I think only dunlop process can be listed as GOLS certified and talalay can not because it cant quite be 100% because of how its treated to be more open celled, but i believe only two manufacturers create a higher level of purity when it comes to the talalay.
I really wanted to give Arizona Premium mattress company a try, as it looks like you can build your own mattress for a lot cheaper, but ive read the small writing on some of the "latex foams" that are made by latexo, where its actually on a small percentage natural latex. The fine writing didn't want to spell out synthetic, so it was listed syn... Anyways i think it's important for those like me seeking high quality for durability. Im still on my journey as I've yet to find a mattress that can still be comfortable after 6 months. Thanks for your videos, btw.
@@clovertx901 Hrm...that's interesting. I'll have to dig into this more.
I doubt it'll allay your fears, but just in case, I did double check the law tag this morning. EcoCloud's law tag has "latex foam" listed as the primary composition at 93%.
@@clovertx901 have you looked into Nolah natural mattress? They also use Talalay latex. Wondering how pure it is? I know Avocado uses dunlup but their green mattress may be too firm for side sleepers.