Was Kyoraku Shunsui the Right Head-Captain for the QUINCY BLOOD WAR? | Bleach Discussion

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    After the death of Yamamoto, Kyoraku Shunsui is forced to take on the role of the Captain-Commander. While he may not have initially seemed like the right choice, in this video, I want to take a look at how his unorthodox brand of leadership was actually exactly what the Soul Society needed...
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  • @MrTommo2304
    @MrTommo2304  ปีที่แล้ว +150

    The Thousand-Year Blood War called for new leadership of the Gotei 13 and here, I want to explain why I think Kyoraku's unorthodox leadership was exactly what our heroes needed - but let me know your thoughts too!

    • @joshuanugentfitnessjourney3342
      @joshuanugentfitnessjourney3342 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey MR TOMMO, you know what I was thinking, the Hell arc would be a prefect excuse for the one Shonen trope Bleach has never had, a Tournament arc,

    • @RACH90810
      @RACH90810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His decision was right. He knew aizen was the real hero chosen by soul king. He sent unohana to hell as a mole for next arc was to convince yamamoto from his old path.

    • @otfdes860
      @otfdes860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think for what was going on, nobody would had been a better leader. He did what was necessary and not what was the popular choice at times but he got the job done.

    • @Saetanigera
      @Saetanigera ปีที่แล้ว

      Kisuke Urahara would have been the best choice, but frankly central would never have made that choice.

    • @GriffithsBankai
      @GriffithsBankai ปีที่แล้ว

      Mane, Yamamoto is nothing compared to Kyoraku sure he is stronger than him but Kyoraku is just simply the better character.

  • @manuelacosta9463
    @manuelacosta9463 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    He's the worthy successor and took charge with a realistic and calm demeanor through Soul Society's worst crisis. His combat prowess and pragmatism helped Soul Society on the battlefield, and now off his new agenda has done much to change the social political landscape of his world for the first time in thousands of years. Be it initiating a flexible recruitment and internship policy, granting help to the worst areas of the Rukon or even creating something akin to civilian jobs rather than the usual yes, Shunsui is someone whom Soul Society needs. Not to mention his cooperative demeanor and working with reformers in Central 46.

    • @MrRusty103
      @MrRusty103 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yeah, it's easy to try and downplay him because of the shoes Yama left behind, but when push came to shove my man squared up and did his job. Probably better than anyone else could have.

    • @justinwillingale2086
      @justinwillingale2086 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He just enacted his rights as head captain with selecting two LTs teaching zaraki zenjustu. By reforming his court guards as he reminded central 47 that reform is the heads Captains decision.

    • @manuelacosta9463
      @manuelacosta9463 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@justinwillingale2086 Truth. It also helps that virtually all the surviving hardline members of the group have resigned and gone into hiding in their estates, leaving only Nayura and her reformist block that Shunsui is working with.

    • @savvivixen8490
      @savvivixen8490 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@manuelacosta9463 Super important info that I didn't know

    • @MultiNaruto900
      @MultiNaruto900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​​@@manuelacosta9463 And especially with the impact of Yamamoto's death sinking in. One of the most legendary shinigami dying (as well as mass casualties of shinigami forces) creates an understanding that the enemy cannot be underestimated along with the severe impact that has on morale.

  • @fredriklind6727
    @fredriklind6727 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    Kyoraku understands that while honor and tradition is nice to have, when it comes down to the dirty and cruel ways of war, they mean nothing in the end. He seems to be the person kind of person that thinks if your opponent goes low, then you go lower cause there is nothing nice and pleasant about war, only the survivor and the loser.

    • @animanco6833
      @animanco6833 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Yup wars are not meant to be pretty, you got to use everything you can to win. Hell, ghost of tsushima is a perfect example of what you are saying.
      However, I like to say if you still want to fight with honor, at least don't be stupid enough to believe your opponent will do the same.

    • @OwO377
      @OwO377 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@animanco6833 there a reason the word " neutral ground" exist.

    • @ciarandoherty6180
      @ciarandoherty6180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@animanco6833 Couldn't have said it better.

    • @nasis18
      @nasis18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well stated.

  • @justtoolit6051
    @justtoolit6051 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    Shunsui was 100% the best choice for head captain

    • @netsuJ
      @netsuJ ปีที่แล้ว +10

      yep

    • @odeiomelao
      @odeiomelao ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Shunsui was 100% the best choice for head

    • @edwincollins5847
      @edwincollins5847 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I mean there’s literally nobody else best suited.

    • @RealRabidDuck
      @RealRabidDuck ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@edwincollins5847 Kon

    • @savvivixen8490
      @savvivixen8490 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed

  • @jhopkins803
    @jhopkins803 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    He was definitely the right choice. There wasn't a current captain that would be willing to make the hard decisions like Shunsui. He put his feelings aside and had Zaraki train even at the expense of Unohana because he knew Zaraki was needed, he freed Aizen knowing he would be a major asset to win, wasn't too proud to accept help from those not in the gotei 13 and even those who were outcast of the soul society in order to win. He truly became a war commander on the fly

    • @manuelacosta9463
      @manuelacosta9463 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      That's what makes him a true leader, his ability to make difficult potentially lethal and dangerous decisions to win and save his side. He sees things from a realistic perspective, not the traditional, 'honorable' ways of Gotei 13 and it's feudal government. Witch let's be real, was not honorable in the slightest given what the nobles are willing to do to keep and maintain their power.

    • @undeadlegionare3643
      @undeadlegionare3643 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The only captain who would come even remotely close would be Byakuya. I don’t think he would do quite as well of a job, but I could see him making the hard decisions.

    • @jhopkins803
      @jhopkins803 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@undeadlegionare3643 in this instance yes I can see it because his pride was already shattered by asking Ichigo to save Soul Society so he'd be able to make the hard decisions. Now if we're talking about before tybw, there's no way I could've saw Byakuya freeing Aizen, his pride and honor would never let him

    • @DragoonMS
      @DragoonMS ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@jhopkins803 Freeing Aizen is the one thing that Byakuya probably wouldn't do at all. Other stuff, like gettin' Zaraki trained in the way of the sword (at the expense of Unohana), sure, he'd pop that off without batting an eye.

    • @ciarandoherty6180
      @ciarandoherty6180 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@undeadlegionare3643 It would take a bit of adjusting though and given Byakuya's kind heart and emotional state would be a bit difficult to process, whereas Shunsui is pragmatic enough to make the calls that are needed to be made.

  • @znalniaskas
    @znalniaskas ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Kyoraku really shined in the war. It really shows how war can change a man and it's pretty much the opposite of Yamamoto, who was changed by thousand years of peace.
    He became the ruthless leader who was willing to do everything to win.

    • @hadescerbex9984
      @hadescerbex9984 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      i dont think he really changed he just didnt have a need to act due to yama being around

    • @thatonejoey1847
      @thatonejoey1847 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It's not like he changed, it's more like dropped the mask and showed the world his true self, dropping the child's play and getting serious to orchestrated the greatest play in soul society history

    • @darknesswave100
      @darknesswave100 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I really don't think he changed at all. There were glimpses of his true self on several occasions. The fact that he didn't give a damn about how the 2 guys felt about him killing Staark gave me at least that look into his actual demeanor. I think he could relax and put that mask on of the lazy captain precisely because Yamamoto was around. After he died kyoraku didn't have the luxury of putting the mask on because now he was the leader. The time to do what was necessary was upon them

    • @OwO377
      @OwO377 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      kyoraku was still same but not the naivety type cuz he know the truth but other people didn't realize what actually happen until he decides to make them safe what ever the cost even tho he already know that part but just as it said " Desperate time for desperate measures." if thousands blood war didn't exist he never take the leadership.

    • @MrRusty103
      @MrRusty103 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@darknesswave100 I don't even really think its much of a mask. He's truly every bit the lazy chill captain when there is nothing important happening, he just knows when important things happen you have to do what it takes to win.

  • @Sweet_Karma
    @Sweet_Karma ปีที่แล้ว +140

    100% the right choice! No one else comes close to Shunsui

    • @NatureLover8286
      @NatureLover8286 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Only if Uketake was healthy !

    • @hitkid2456
      @hitkid2456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zaraki, or maybe Urahara

    • @vb2806
      @vb2806 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@hitkid2456Zaraki no way. He is not fit to lead that way

    • @hitkid2456
      @hitkid2456 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@vb2806Yea, maybe so, but he brings the ruthlessness too, but maybe too much tho... lol

    • @kywxkk
      @kywxkk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hitkid2456Zaraki getting everyone killed 😭

  • @raymondyongho5757
    @raymondyongho5757 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Kyoraku is an example of the best leaders being those who don't want the job. He probably envisioned Yamamoto being the Head Captain for another thousand years until Captains like Unohana, Ukitake, or Byakuya took the mantle.
    On an unrelated note: I'm surprised Shinji was able to keep quiet after learning Kyoraku freed Aizen, especially after everything he's put the Vizards through. You'd think he'd be the most outraged with that decision considering they're the ones who suffered the most from Aizen's betrayal with him casually using them like test subjects. This shows his growth and understanding of how desperate the situation they were in was.

    • @Jak-lg4kz
      @Jak-lg4kz ปีที่แล้ว +24

      agree. I was like why Shinji just be quiet after what Aizen did to them but then I realized I think he knows this is a desperate situation and he understands that immediately also if ever Kyoraku resigns, I think Shinji should be next he seems kinda like Kyoraku chill, level headed at times and knowledgable.

    • @framedthunder6436
      @framedthunder6436 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Shinji si very wise too

    • @darknesswave100
      @darknesswave100 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That's what bothered me the most about how everybody else reacted. Sure the fact that aizen was freed was bad there's no denying that but they're too focused on the here and now and not looking at the bigger picture. Kyoraku realized they were screwed without Aizen to help them so he made the call. Yamamoto guarandamntee you wouldn't have let Aizen out even if he knew full well that without him they'd all die. That's the difference in the 2 of them. Yamamoto has too much pride and Kyoraku is willing to set his aside to do what's necessary

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You gotta remember Shinji is one of the older captains, i think only Kyouraku and Kenpachi(from the Gotei 13) are older than him by the end of the series.

    • @Tensaroxx
      @Tensaroxx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nah the thing is shinji is like always used a measure tool against wittiness
      he is really smart and cunning himself but not at the level of aizen
      he is really strong but not at level of aizenn
      he always was used to measure aizen , he always knew how dangerous aizen was, knew the best time to enter karakura town fight
      he wasnt the leader of vizards for no fun when there were 6 captain lvl members its not that esy
      i'd say after shunsui he's most likely to be the head captain

  • @Kvajzzi
    @Kvajzzi ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I agree. Kyoraku, the daddy of TYBW

    • @maylabrown4584
      @maylabrown4584 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He's the Tony Montana of the Soul Society lol

    • @marashaus
      @marashaus ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He’s a giga chad

    • @Sora.Casterwill
      @Sora.Casterwill ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So y'all agree he's a fine handsome and a menace 😂

  • @swapnavadey6096
    @swapnavadey6096 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    The thing that makes Shunsui the best choice is the fact he's never afraid to change and the thing soul society needed the most after yhwach was a change , he's not a conservative who will be afraid to change just cause the old methods "work" , he will do whatever it takes to for the betterment of soul society + he's not arrogant , he will do whatever it takes to win battles that can't be won by themselves

  • @melvindekkers6105
    @melvindekkers6105 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I do love Shunsui. He also agrees, he didn't want to let Aizen loose, but Shunsui is the guy to act now and take responsibility later when all is done. So I do like that Shunsui just says to Byakuya in response to letting Aizen go was shamefull "I agree, if it makes you guys feel better you can smack me for it later".

    • @framedthunder6436
      @framedthunder6436 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kinda funny byakuya got mád
      When the Aizen plan success thanks to him and his reckleness to Kill Rukia

    • @OwO377
      @OwO377 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      kyoraku is textbook of real responsibilities .

    • @Sora.Casterwill
      @Sora.Casterwill ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Even though he meant it, its quite sarcastic isn't it?? I mean who is capable to smack Shunsui in the Gotei13 now? Like he was telling Byakuya to zip it and deal with it like an adult instead of always complaining. The ones who can smack are Zaraki and Nanao, but Nanao follows her Capt's orders, while Zaraki, I bet he'd be thanking Shunsui becuz now he might get a chance to fight Aizen😂.

    • @theexiled3034
      @theexiled3034 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      cosnidering the alternative was to let Yhwach kill the SK and destroy SS entirely, letting Aizen loose was the right move, just as it was to get Unohana to help Kenpachi unleash his full power.

    • @hitkid2456
      @hitkid2456 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Sora.CasterwillToshiro tho, especially if he ever accepts his adult self.

  • @httm241
    @httm241 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Shunsui is the polar opposite of Yama
    While Yama is a stern honor bound leader Shunsui is more underhanded
    Even there Bankai’s are polar opposites of each other while Yama’s is a raging flame Shunsui’s is as cold as the void itself

    • @thatonejoey1847
      @thatonejoey1847 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It's not just the bankai, the shikai as well, yamas shikai is powerful and imposing leaving no room for doubt and putting any enemy in high alert while kyorakus shikai is much simpler, not as flashy and luls the enemy into a false sense of security, the fact you cannot see its ability at first sight makes you feel less threatened by it until you make a mistake and off goes your head

    • @rf7182
      @rf7182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thatonejoey1847 Irooni, Black - Dead

    • @edwincollins5847
      @edwincollins5847 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatonejoey1847 but you do see it at first sight. Everything begins to darken. That immediately would put the opponent on alert if the sound of the person saying “bankai” doesn’t

    • @thatonejoey1847
      @thatonejoey1847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edwincollins5847 I said shikai, I compared shikai, not bankai

    • @hitkid2456
      @hitkid2456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Both of Shunsui's stages involve shadows and darkness to some extent.

  • @skyrogue1977
    @skyrogue1977 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Central 46: Jushiro Ukitake, you have been appointed as the Head Captain.
    Ukitake: What an honor 😮‍💨
    I promise 😮‍💨😮‍💨😵
    To uphold 😵😵☠️
    Central 46: F*ck.

  • @flareinc7413
    @flareinc7413 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When Kyuraku fought Starrk and revealed his cold calculating way of finishing fights as effectively as possible,honour be damned,that was one of the best character moments in the Arrancar-arc.

  • @HeManUltimated
    @HeManUltimated ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Shunsui is the perfect war-time Captain Commander imho. There weren't a lot of candidates that were as collected, calm and ruthless as him.

    • @MultiNaruto900
      @MultiNaruto900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup - a calm, intelligent mind does wonders in a time of turmoil.

  • @umziwoxolodlodlo285
    @umziwoxolodlodlo285 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    He was. He's currently the oldest captain present, and obviously the most experienced too. He'd know what Yamamoto would have done in any given situation, kinda like how he brought together the Gotei 13 after Yamamoto's death. Plus he's not someone to be crossed, as shown by his reluctant but serious tone throughout the series. He looks like someone who'd pass fighting any day for some peaceloving sake time, but when shit gets serious he picks up his swords and fights to protect the Soul Society.

    • @th3ra83
      @th3ra83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well... Nah.... Yamamoto would *Never* do that. Which why Kyoraku did it.

  • @tfive24
    @tfive24 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I wish Kyoraku and Isshin would had have an interaction, when he came to the living world.

    • @mentalprograming5365
      @mentalprograming5365 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      he actually reminds me of isshin, very similar personality.. except isshin turns maximum goofy when hes around his kids

    • @jurgenzaka4957
      @jurgenzaka4957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mentalprograming5365 while that may be true Isshin wasnt goofy with Ichigo one bit. Yes he acted like that but Isshin always punched Ichigo to let him know his place and what he deals with.

    • @ArcaneMaiden
      @ArcaneMaiden ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mentalprograming5365 Maximum Goofy. 🤣👏

    • @th3ra83
      @th3ra83 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Kyoraku: Isshin, you got a letter from your former subordinate.
      Toshiro: Dear Captain Shiba, F**k you. You get a wife and then ditch me with Rangiku as Lieutenant. And I have to clean up all your works and she still add me her works to do.

    • @nasis18
      @nasis18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@th3ra83 😂

  • @kengxi
    @kengxi ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Can't wait to see his Bankai animated.

  • @CaptainKotetsu
    @CaptainKotetsu ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The most laid back guy in the Gotei 13 taking command during an all-or-nothing war is hilarious and badass all at once.

    • @martakavaliauskaite4566
      @martakavaliauskaite4566 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everyone always forget that shuinsui was longest living shinigami after yamamoto and unahana death

  • @mrzed385
    @mrzed385 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I really love the contrast between Yamamoto and Kyorakyu, with their, characters, ideals and even with their designs.

  • @grayorganization
    @grayorganization ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He’s always been my favorite captain since getting into the series but now he’s one of my favorite characters in general

  • @tobiogunyemi7631
    @tobiogunyemi7631 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Not only is Kyoraku the right man and successor to the top job, I would love to see how he ages into the role with different captains and situations that come forth. One of the best characters in the whole series.

  • @animanco6833
    @animanco6833 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Yes he is the right choice as head captain. They were at war, and that means using everything they had and making the hardest decision. Kyoraku understood that perfectly. Hell during arrancar arc, he wasn't sticking to any particular fighting style or a single mindset, he used everything he can to win, and that was needed for the war.
    Also that's how Yamamoto won the first war, he probably knew that having the original gotei 13 was a big gamble, but their strength were vital of winning the war.

  • @zimo9714
    @zimo9714 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    He was the absolute one and only character that could take yama’s position

  • @brianlafontaine3111
    @brianlafontaine3111 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember I was 7 or 8 years old when I first saw this Shunsui and thought he was lazy as a young child would. My mother who I was watching bleach with gave him one look after I said this guy looks lazy. After her one look she just told me that he's probably one of the strongest guys there. Years later as I grew up and was reading TYBW at around 17 this dude was my favorite character and now as an adult and father he's especially my favorite character. The man did everything to protect his people and the world at large. Honestly wish he got some more action after Lillie Barro

  • @danieltyborowski9977
    @danieltyborowski9977 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    While you can argue that Mayuri was the MVP of the war. I'd argue that without Kyoraku Shunsui, they would have lost the war during the second conflict.
    His quick decision making and willingness to use all of the card at his disposal.
    I Absolutely cannot wait until the 3rd season and the fight between Nanao & Kyoraku vs Lille Barro.

    • @MrRusty103
      @MrRusty103 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Even as someone who wasn't a fan of most of that fight, it is going to be an absolute trip to see it animated.

    • @luqadam408
      @luqadam408 ปีที่แล้ว

      stfu he aint do shi

    • @notevencalm
      @notevencalm ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That fight will be in the 4th season

    • @sonofsparda3767
      @sonofsparda3767 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'd say Kisuke was the MVP

  • @3slicessenpai
    @3slicessenpai ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can't wait until the Hell arc so we can see more of Kyoraku's decisions as Head Captain.
    I just know that he'll be the first one running to Hell to stop the problem 😂

  • @anaideviveiros6597
    @anaideviveiros6597 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love Kyoraku as the new captain commander. It was all Soul Society needed - a new approach for a harsh time, unorthodox. He's perfect!

    • @manuelacosta9463
      @manuelacosta9463 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Truth. And good thing he's adopted this new approach to his general governance of Gotei 13, especially with the cowardly nobles out of the way. His humbleness is also a plus, he may be Captain Commander but he'd happily share a drink with a human something other Shinigami wouldn't dare consider.

  • @Golghrom
    @Golghrom ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Totally, a dark soul with knowledge and skill, yet he knows when to be nice, grim, or kind. A nice set of skills for the beggining of a good leader.

  • @cattoduke6286
    @cattoduke6286 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude seemed like the worst choice there is, lazy, goofing around and always hesitate about killing. Then he really shown his cunning and manipulative side that impressed Aizen himself, but also more sympathetic than Yama. Given enough time, he will likely surpass Yama himself

  • @vcvbvb9605
    @vcvbvb9605 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    he also has good negotiating skills when he negotiates with Aizen until finally Aizen wants to lend a hand to help soul society. Even at the end of the negotiation, Aizen said to Shunsui:
    "You really are a very interesting one".
    Indeed a person who deserves to be a head captain.

  • @markdevries2961
    @markdevries2961 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kyoraku is a perfect balance of wisdom and fighting capability. He both avoids unnecessary conflict, and uses whatever means necessary to obtain victory.

  • @lavanpathmanathan
    @lavanpathmanathan ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the words that you use. Your story-telling capabilities, in combination with your mastery of words, makes your videos very special. Thank you for making these videos, your hard work is very appreciated.

  • @jheurtin1120
    @jheurtin1120 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your thoughts on the topic of this video were spot-on. I can't wait to see all of this animated.

  • @gbarrancos1
    @gbarrancos1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was smarts (mayuri) and quick wit (shunsui) the game changers instead of raw power/imutabillity(Yama).
    When conventional approaches are completely invalidated, a leap of faith at the unorthodox usually pays off.
    Loved every inch of dialog involving Shunsui in this arc and CFYOW. I find his leadership style quite inspiring.

  • @ic8840
    @ic8840 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video, you did a fantastic job explaining the complexity of the Character.

  • @johnniecarter7945
    @johnniecarter7945 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He was the best man for the job. The only captain that never lost his cool and always thought 5-10 steps ahead.

  • @joshuasimire1404
    @joshuasimire1404 ปีที่แล้ว

    So i just realized why i love your channel so much....your attention to detail and the way you explain it to your audience... idk if you have a script writer or you're just that good with words but i am really amazed by it and this video is proof of that...love to see more videos from you🙏

  • @ferrycruise7104
    @ferrycruise7104 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this video. Great perspective

  • @Javetts
    @Javetts ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think that after a few hundred years of seeing how Shunsui does things, Byakuya will be a great potential replacement.

  • @brian-qk7ft
    @brian-qk7ft ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great video. Excellent writing and insight.

  • @ToolFloydChimera
    @ToolFloydChimera ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Step1: Make Zaraki a God
    Step2: semi-release Aizen which turns out the key move
    ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT CHOICE

    • @njm1738
      @njm1738 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More like make Zaraki a Demon

    • @OwO377
      @OwO377 ปีที่แล้ว

      end result lot of quincy casualties in a good way.

  • @osmeldelacruzamador4126
    @osmeldelacruzamador4126 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome analysis. I'm a big fan and watch all of your Bleach Videos. This one is a Masterpiece!!!

  • @michaeldoukas4444
    @michaeldoukas4444 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He was pefrect for the choice. He had the intellect and the strength to be the captain commander. He is willing to do things, even though others might think them wrong. I do think he has changed from the Soul Society arc to this arc. In that arc he was aloof and really did not want to be in combat. Just the way he did not want to fight Chad and just drink tea. Now, he has changed, I think into someone who would anything and everything to protect the Soul Society. Out of all of the captains, he had the best temperament. IMHO.

  • @karna87777
    @karna87777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was absolutely a beautiful and very intuitive interesting topic IMO. Thank you Tommo sama

  • @Ronin-kk4bt
    @Ronin-kk4bt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We all knew he was next in line to become head captain but man shunshui really stepped up to the plate and took charge he was meant for that role.
    It’s crazy because he’s such a easy going and even lazy at times but underneath all that is a born leader

  • @nasis18
    @nasis18 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In a world of black and white, Shunsui introduced a whole bunch of gray. What a great character. He's really well written.

  • @laazro
    @laazro ปีที่แล้ว

    really well written video man

  • @TediBearProductions
    @TediBearProductions ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great video!

  • @roden_es_1507
    @roden_es_1507 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting topic for a video. Hopefully, we get more like this.

  • @iamhallo68
    @iamhallo68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thumbnail is fire 🔥 🔥

  • @GoogleAccount-vh7ht
    @GoogleAccount-vh7ht ปีที่แล้ว

    I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @DariusHammond
    @DariusHammond ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would've been cool to see Bloodthirsty Retsu as interim HC for the war. Then pass the baton to Shunsui/Byakuya.

    • @th3ra83
      @th3ra83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She'd pass it Kenpachi :)

  • @NICKatronMC
    @NICKatronMC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm in eager anticipation of more Shunsui spotlight; watching a lot of people reacting to the First Kenpachi revelation, a lot of them were saying "why do *they* need her to die?" or *"they* need him to unlock his true power." But it wasn't them, as in multiple people, deciding Unohana to train Zaraki...it was Shunsui. This was but one of a handful of decisions Shunsui made that impacted the story of the TYBW.
    I absolutely love Shunsui during this arc, he almost reminds me of Tywin Lannister in a sense; the differences being how each character portrays themselves, as well as how they handle the loss of their loved ones and how they move forward (as well as Shunsui's laziness).
    I am absolutely looking forward to seeing more viewers reacting to Shunsui's pragmatic decisions, leading to some of the most impactful moments in the story.

  • @TCrimson05t
    @TCrimson05t ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember seeing all the captains in that first meeting and seeing his flashy pink kimono......and despite liking all the captains I'd seen more of.....I knew he'd be my favorite.
    And Shunsui exceeded even my lofty expectations. He was the perfect one to lead them. And is still my favorite Captain. 🏴‍☠️
    Yama would be proud. 🔥

  • @AthenaVelecta
    @AthenaVelecta ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Kyoraku was probably the best choice for head captain. I think that his dislike of being appointed and his dislike of responsibility in general proves that he understands responsibility better than most people. He knows what is required of a leader and he understands what the job of head captain is about and takes it seriously, he knows what will be expected of him and what he must do. I think Yamamoto realized this also. I think Kyoraku' s reluctance to be given the job and his dislike of responsibility in general comes from not wanting to let anyone down or drop the ball in any way. Which itself makes him the best person who will be serious about stepping up to the plate for the sake of others.

  • @maylabrown4584
    @maylabrown4584 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Meh, there was no one else that was suitable for the role.
    Zaraki was insane, "Unohana" was insane, Mayuri was insane, Hitsugaya was too young, Byakuya was a tool and so on. Kyoraku's cool attitude was a perfect contrast to Yamo's fiery temper.

    • @decepticons_destroy
      @decepticons_destroy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed - but I think Ukitake cud have made a good CC as well. But we all know that kubo wanted to kill off the oldies (yamma=too old, uno=too brutal, ukitake=too sick) to make way for a new Gen with Shunsui being the father figure to the younger gen as he’s also all their senpai. He’s the perfect CC for the new gen

    • @mlo009
      @mlo009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true, Byakuya has gotten better but he was such a tool.

    • @cecillegend9161
      @cecillegend9161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Byakuya and toshiro will need like 500 years to become CC material. Withij the gotei 13 the next candidate is Shinji as the 2nd oldest Captain in the post tybw gotei 13

    • @maylabrown4584
      @maylabrown4584 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cecillegend9161 Absolutely, I hope if we get a Timeskip showing Ichigo rejoined the Soul Society (or better) to take up the Title of Captain that Shinji is shown as Captain by that time.

  • @LeoLikesLamb
    @LeoLikesLamb ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos butter my biscuits thank you

  • @sond.lollipop8919
    @sond.lollipop8919 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He was quite literally the only actually good choice.

    • @czjns
      @czjns ปีที่แล้ว

      wrong, byakuya was also an amazing choice and is most likely gonna be up after shunsui

    • @nelsonmongare9515
      @nelsonmongare9515 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@czjns byakuya was half dead at the time

    • @Cliffy1616
      @Cliffy1616 ปีที่แล้ว

      @czn
      Byakuya is also far too young and wouldn’t command the same respect that Shunsui does. Dudes like not even 300 yet.
      Shunsui is 1000+ years old and has had far more experience, is smarter and pragmatic. And has spent all his time watching Yamamoto do the top job and knows what’s required of it.
      Do you think Byakuya would have sacrificed Unohana? Or turned to Aizen? No.

    • @vb2806
      @vb2806 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@czjnsbyakuya would have died on the hill of honour. He would have never released aizen

  • @stevepat8003
    @stevepat8003 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    He is still one of my all-time favorite anime characters and I'm glad that hasn't changed after all these years

  • @skeptischism1324
    @skeptischism1324 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope the hell verse gets animated and ukitake gets to show some shit. Seeing his zanpakuto grab szayel apporo was dope AF. Plus showed captains land in hell.

  • @wordsmyth659
    @wordsmyth659 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    he and urahara are two my favorite captains for a reason zaraki , aizen, and mayuri also make up my top 5

  • @valeriejames4675
    @valeriejames4675 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree 100% with this.
    I remember reading the chapters as they were coming out. And I remember thinking pretty much what was said here.
    My thought was pretty much, you want to stand by pride, honour, and principal in a war? Well, good for you, you can stand proud next to the bodies.

  • @joeygsly16
    @joeygsly16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phenomenal video

  • @gammafrost
    @gammafrost ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Shunsui was the only reasonable choice and he showed his growth and willingness to take risk. Yamamoto would never have freed Aizen to aid them even if they were losing. I can’t wait to see how Shunsui leads in the hell arc

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      TBF Shunsui gambled a lot on the idea that Aizen would just cooperate
      Especially since none of them were strong enough to recontain him if things got out of hand

    • @mlo009
      @mlo009 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Was Shunsui betting on Aizen having a common ground with Soul Society than compared to Yhwach? Because that's still a huge gamble. Shunsui is the type who "takes action now, fix the rest later"

    • @darknesswave100
      @darknesswave100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Accel I'm guessing he figured aizen wouldn't go along with how Ywach was doing things. Cause if he won the soul society and everything that composes the world as a whole would have been gone. So he figured aizen would know that already and cooperate

    • @Fmyngboss
      @Fmyngboss ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pn2294 Nah Shunsui was the key and if worse came to it none of them per his bankai would ever leave muken. FOR SEIREITEIS SAKE.

  • @daacoboys7154
    @daacoboys7154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh snap back to back.

  • @Light-vl3vd
    @Light-vl3vd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cant win war based on feelings is what a story like this tells. so poetic and is with us every day. Pride would be the end of us if we concentrated on that.

  • @andregrant9401
    @andregrant9401 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoroughly enjoyed this analysis and I do agree that he was the best person to take over the helm of soul society’s guardians.

  • @capulet5580
    @capulet5580 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MrTommo2304 // Hey man, loving the videos. I only got into Bleach around a year or two ago, but I can’t even begin to imagine having to wait eight years for the next season ^^’ it’s now one of my favorites. If you’ve already done this, then my bad, but I did try searching and could find it. You do lots of “battle analysis” and “top ten best” stuff, but what about a “top ten worst battles” or even just most disappointing battles? It could include stuff like Maske, Gerard, Yammy, etc. Another suggestion is perhaps the “top ten battle ideas” where you simply say battles you’d love to see? Even if they don’t seem likely to happen, but an example could be… I dunno, Shunsui vs Jūshirō.
    Just some ideas from a Bleach fan, though i’m sure you’ve got tons of ideas on your to-do list already. I feel like my first suggestion could be especially kinda cool though if you did ever get around to doing it. Again, if you’ve already done either of my suggestions, then I apologize lol, I just didn’t see anything like that when searching for them

  • @justhatdude2121
    @justhatdude2121 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love love loveeeeeeeee this video!!!! 😭😭😭😭. Kyoraku is my favorite. He was the perfect man for the job.

  • @jamesn778
    @jamesn778 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, if you haven't, could you make a bleach timeline video?

  • @saphirashah6266
    @saphirashah6266 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shunsui is that student who doesn't show up at school mostly, hates studying, hates exams, but always manages score to full marks.😂🤣

  • @Chompylol
    @Chompylol ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey There Tommo,
    Great video, been following for awhile and you are definitely my favorite bleach analysis channel. In the wake of the recent events regarding content creators in the space, it made me wonder if you have ever been approached by Seth or other creators in the bleach space to collab on a video? It never crossed my mind until now.

  • @AtlantaCzar
    @AtlantaCzar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s your bankai?
    Shunsui: “Depression. My bankai is depression.”

  • @dontmisunderstand6041
    @dontmisunderstand6041 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not only was Kyoraku the right head captain, he was the only possible choice in the moment. Those who could potentially serve as alternatives to him are lacking in some area that needs time to fix.

  • @cecillegend9161
    @cecillegend9161 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The fact that Kyoraku can manipulate Aizen inti helping soul society is crazy. Not even Yamamoto or Urahara can do that so its a great testament to Kyoraku

    • @princeterrence6411
      @princeterrence6411 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Plot

    • @ailaxl
      @ailaxl ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@princeterrence6411 We could also argue everything Aizen or Yhwach as the main villains did was "plot" lol

  • @samoanjoseph1457
    @samoanjoseph1457 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are two things that bug me about the way Kyoraku went about this.
    1) This didn't feel like a war where they could afford to be without their best healer. And even with the powerup, Kenpachi's role after that is pretty limited. It's not like he went on to destroy most of the opposing force. Just, what, two of them? Which isn't bad, but I also don't think it was worth Unohaha.
    2) I may be over-estimating the impact, but MAYBE if we'd actually gotten to see the impact of masked Visoreds on the Stern Retters, we would know if sacrificing Unohana was actually necessary. it's entirely possible that Shinji, masked, could have soloed half the Sterns just because they're that allergic to Hollows. Which is why it's such a disservice that we don't get to see how masked Visoreds can stack up against them. And don't tell me "they decided not to use them anymore" -- it's a war to end existence as they know it. You don't hold back on any sort of principle. You go all out because there may not be a tomorrow. So if Kyoraku really wanted to be controversial, he could have given the Visoreds his full permission and support to use their masks against the Sterns. If anything should have driven home how much Soul Society needed to get out of their own way, it would have been that.

    • @namoma4922
      @namoma4922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can argue that without defeating Gremmy(which he needed his shikai/true power for) a whole lot more of shinigami and quincies alike would have died to him. But I do agree sacrificing unohana is at best controversial, and not just froom an emotional stand point
      Totally agree with your point on the vizards but that's one of the flaws of the final arc in general, and i m not sure the anime will be really able to fix it

    • @sidblack728
      @sidblack728 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately, in an existential war, sacrifices have to be made. Unohana was a great warrior and a great healer... but she could only do one thing at a time. Assuming her assessment of Zaraki was correct, and events tend to indicate it was, the superior potential of Zaraki and the second best healer had more value than the best and second-best healer with a nerfed Zaraki. And there can only be one Kenpachi at a time.
      We know so little about Isane... only time will tell what the hand-picked lieutenant, now Captain, is capable of.

  • @richard_n
    @richard_n ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shunsui was the perfect person for the job. He's a good man who realizes that you have to sometimes do "bad" things to win the day.

    • @rf7182
      @rf7182 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not bad but dirty

  • @Third_at
    @Third_at 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aizen fr said “I don’t remember asking for you to let me out.”

  • @HyuchaKyrie
    @HyuchaKyrie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aizen is a villain that does good things
    Kyouraku is a hero that does bad things
    And I love it

  • @nickdurham3946
    @nickdurham3946 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You make a great point about Unohana. As much as we would've liked to see her fight the Sternritter it was her decision to make in regards to how she gets to die. She was so old and if everyone has to die eventually and you have the luxury of choosing to die in a certain manner you should be allowed to do so and dying in a beautiful battle with your protege is the perfect death.

  • @KRRooga66
    @KRRooga66 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always been my favorite character

  • @Goldlung1
    @Goldlung1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant wait to see the rest of the saga, it really suck to have to wait till summer

  • @BastardZombieKiller1
    @BastardZombieKiller1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course he was. He is calm, intelligent, doesn't rush to battle or anger, has an immensely high battle IQ... He is everything they need in a chaotic and tragic time of change.
    He's absolutely a badass and absolutely the right one for the Head Captain position.

  • @gerdanbombales
    @gerdanbombales ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kyoraku was innovative and not afraid taking risk, which Yamamoto and Mayuri can't.

    • @avidreader6534
      @avidreader6534 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What? Mayuri definitely takes risks lmao Yamamoto is the only one who is too prideful.

  • @desertrat166
    @desertrat166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot about one huge fact about why he was the right choice, that amazing eye patch

    • @nasis18
      @nasis18 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

  • @ailaxl
    @ailaxl ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a video for the ages old Shunsui in bankai vs. Shinigami/non-evolved Aizen debate.

  • @brandondiotte2104
    @brandondiotte2104 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't help but think what the Soul Society would have been like if Shunsui took over as Head-Captain much earlier in the story. Like say after 500 years of relative peace Yamamoto decided to step down and hand over control to Shunsui, do you think Aizen would have as easy of a time to rise to power before rebelling against the Soul Society or would he have even felt the need to do so. Assuming nothing about how Shunsui deals with the other branches of authority changes, especially the Central 46, I think at the very least Aizen is discovered shortly after creating the Visored as I don't believe Shunsui would be so quick to execute his co-captains because of a dictate by the Central 46, nor do I feel Urahara would have been forced to flee Soul Society before Aizen was properly exposed as a traitor.

  • @torrid94
    @torrid94 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fav character in Bleach.

  • @darknesswave100
    @darknesswave100 ปีที่แล้ว

    That speech about using evil to defeat evil was perfect to me. It sums up his mindset as the head captain. He doesn't care if they had to use Aizen to help them, he did what was necessary in order to ensure the survival of the soul society. That's the end goal in the war. Plus I liked how he actually let the captains and lieutenants say their peace when they saw it was him that set aizen free. You'd have never gotten that from Yamamoto but with Kyoraku he realizes the value in letting people voice their concerns. His version of the Gotei isn't being led by somebody who doesn't tolerate others giving their opinions. It's led by somebody who knows it's those who are under you as the head captain that have the most value because without them you have nothing as an organization. It's just one person running things instead of it being a collective of individuals

  • @hitarophoenix
    @hitarophoenix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He wasn't the one they wanted, he was the one they needed.

  • @franky.378
    @franky.378 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @czjns
    @czjns ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my goat shunsui🥲🥲

  • @permeus2nd
    @permeus2nd ปีที่แล้ว

    2:45 and hopefully beef up security, the quinces braking in I can kinda give them a pass on as it was a full military invasion (that still happened way to easily) but way back in the first arc when Ichigo and friends not only got in but then spent days running around unchecked that should have been a kick up the butt even if they were getting what amounted to inside help they shouldn’t have been able to brake into a military base.
    You also had the betrayal that should have made them paranoid about security and shake everything up as they had 3 “”highly”” trained enemy combatants that knew almost everything about the protections they had.

  • @Purriah
    @Purriah ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You good at make words

  • @trentthomson9641
    @trentthomson9641 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really really still think that sacrificing your best medic in the thousand year blood war arc isn't the right move...

  • @deantefields8488
    @deantefields8488 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was one of my favorite characters before the promotion.
    But I liked him all the more after because he understood, unlike the rest of the captains, that wars ugly and it’s not heroic and it’s not romanticized. He wasn’t scared to do what needed to be done and he wasn’t here to make the hard decisions.
    Everybody criticized his choices but that’s a part of leader ship.
    Everybody thinks that they could be the head captain until it’s time to be the head captain.

  • @shanefoster2132
    @shanefoster2132 ปีที่แล้ว

    Principles and honor are important even in war. But the more brutal and genocidal the war gets the fewer principles you can still hold on to and cling to life. He knew needed to be given up to live through that time.

  • @zephirol4638
    @zephirol4638 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only others that might be even remotely worthy candidates are Mayuri and Kisuke. And Given Mayuri's mindset etc. It would be foolish to give someone like him that much power that would be unchecked.
    Kisuke could work but due to him being away for so long and given his relationship with Mayuri and some of the others. I doubt he could actually keep everyone under his fold in a fully unified team and his mentality is not that of a leader. He is more the leaders wisdom.
    Byakuya could be a lesser candidate but he has much of the same issues of both above given his die hard stance on positions with an inability to adapt quickly, which generally leads to him taking more damage than he should have or outright losing the battle.
    Kyoraku is the example of water. He goes with the flow and has no problem changing his mind in an attempt to gain a better outcome rather than trying to forge something that won't fit. But is capable of being stern and definitive when the time calls for it. And he is respected universally.

    • @cecillegend9161
      @cecillegend9161 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mayuri cannot be CC i doubt he would even accept it

    • @zephirol4638
      @zephirol4638 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cecillegend9161 Given his action, his ridiculed yama, and his ego as well as the leeway it would give him in whatever he wanted to do. He would definitely take the mantle. But again a lot of those same things are precisely why it would be a terrible idea. Not to mention you need a force of power in that position and mayuri while powerful via intelligence, isn't all that powerful in general.

  • @hundergap4042
    @hundergap4042 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you only cover Bleach related content or are you also planning to cover other manga contents?