Rent Out Your Instruments? Get Fretish!
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- Ever want to rent an instrument or piece of gear for a day? What about rent out your guitar and make a little bit of money on the side? Fretish has you covered!
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Sounds like the best way to get a free relic on your guitar!
Charles Campbell. Best reply so far!!
Great idea,
What musician doesn’t love when others play on their stuff?
*DON‘T TOUCH MY DRUMSET!*
Robert G. I'm going to put my nutsack on your drum set!!!!!!!!!!!
Rob Ferrell lmao
mmmmmm no thanks lol
Yeah i dont trust people i know around my gear, no way a strangers taking something home with.
Ok, I can understand why someone would rent out their equipment, but I want to know how am I guaranteed that I will get my gear back in the same condition I sent it out? That's my major concern for this site, and this business modle.
From the Fretish FAQ:
"At Fretish, we do everything in our power to protect the owner and their instrument. Before any aspiring renter can strap on your ax, they must meet our stringent eligibility criteria. Fretish does not advertise to the masses. Rather, great care is taken to identify musicians that honor and respect instruments and the people that own them. Moreover, you are provided with tools to reject rental requests should you not feel comfortable with a potential renter for any reason."
Sounds like a load of horseshit to me.
Read: While the shitbags that make it thru our stringent screening process are doing what they do best, we're doing all we can to not be held responsible for damage and/or theft.
Better make sure you have separate insurance if you can get it.
I wouldn't rent my gear to most of the people I know, much less to a stranger. But, to each his own.
Yeah you have to "trust" Fretish but Fretish isn't responsible if something goes wrong. So in other words zero protection from damage, even potentially theft (well you'd have to get the police involved). Renting out equipment only really works with a security deposit imo.
The ol' bait and switch will eventually come into play too. Or, lifting serial numbers to put on knockoffs
Unless there’s some good insurance on your gear built-in to the deal, I don’t see this as useful to the gear owner.
No. Just no.
Terrible idea. I cant imagine trusting anyone with my gear. You are a brave man.
or a paid spokesman
Fluff do you only do paid promotion and q&a videos now?
Gotta get paid, bro..
Clickbait doesn't work anymore so you have to sell out and become a shill for products and companies that don't relate to your channel.
andrew page That statement is a bit overkill. This could be a very useful service for touring bands and musicians. This is a service related to Ryan's channel.
Its pretty accurate
Lol. Ok.
I play trumpet.
mwm48 same here.
Let me play your trumpet. I'll pay $3.56 and two pairs of socks.
Tim Flohr $4.70 and a pair of loafers and it's a deal.
Kemper owners will enjoy ^^
Sulivan Hautefort I didn't even think of that. $30 for a flawless amp patch. Hell yeah.
You do know it's against the advertisers standard agency and FTC to not disclose paid promotions in the video?
"Given that embedded TH-cam videos do not display the description of a video below them, this means that burying disclosure in the description is not acceptable."
"What we say is that it should be easily seen or viewed... It should basically be unavoidable by the viewer."
Mary Engle, associate director for Advertising Practices at the FTC
Those quotes where form an article concerning promotion in youtube. You can actually be reported an investigated for this. Unfortunately it is rather common among your community to fail to disclose things like how you got X gear e.i from a store or company and where you paid to review it. I might be bad to say but I hope the penny drops and someone gets made an example of so that the youtube personalities we watch who brand themselves on being "genuine" and "honest" actually act like it and show transparency. Shill a product/service if you have to money is money I guess. But at least be honest about it and tell your fans who value your consumer advise rather then pull the wool over their eyes.
I for example can not trust your opinion now because by not clearly disclosing I don't know for sure if you did this intentionally to make your opinion seem more genuine thus getting more people to take interest in this product or if it was a honest mistake/ignorance of the current rules of advertising (and that's me being kind and not jumping to conclusions)
I hope you address this criticism seriously in future and make efforts for more transparent disclosure.
ad1170 Well if you managed to come to the conclusion on your own that he is doing a lot of this and that the paid promotions aren't genuine, then you really don't need the regulation now do you?
jubjub f jubjub f yeah, I came to the conclusion because I read a comment that pointed out that he had buried his disclosure in the description bar. Fun fact alot of poeple who watch youtube videos often times don't read the comments/description. You only have to look at the ratio of comments to views to work that one out. I already made the case clear as to why he should be adhering to the standards. If he is masking product promotions as impartial reviews/consumer advice then that isn't moral. If you honestly believe that they should be no need for influential content creators to be transparent about their dealings that I honestly don't know what to really say to you. The regulation are there and If I recall correctly youtube even have a function to mark videos as paid promotions which I am unsure if fluff has even done.
It should also be noted I have not seem him reply to a single comment which is usual. So draw your own conclusions about whether this was a mistake by ignorance or was malicious.
He's been doing paid promotions for years now without disclosing.
what if they break your guitar?
if it's anything like camera equipment rentals there's insurance involved.
Not a terrible idea.. but I doubt I could bring myself to loan out my stuff.. what if it gets damaged? Is there some system to charge the people who rent your gear?
From the Fretish FAQ:
"At Fretish, we do everything in our power to protect the owner and their instrument. Before any aspiring renter can strap on your ax, they must meet our stringent eligibility criteria. Fretish does not advertise to the masses. Rather, great care is taken to identify musicians that honor and respect instruments and the people that own them. Moreover, you are provided with tools to reject rental requests should you not feel comfortable with a potential renter for any reason."
Yeah you have to "trust" Fretish but Fretish isn't responsible if something goes wrong. So in other words zero protection from damage, even potentially theft (well you'd have to get the police involved). Renting out equipment only really works with a security deposit imo.
Read: "If they drop it and the headstock snaps off, we won't do a thing to help"
"we don't advertise to the masses", we only advertise to the quarter million followers of various TH-camrs.
Yeah, that doesn't sound like vague corporate speak at all. Nothing at all like I would state in my terms to CYA.
Just what every musician dreams of. Letting some stranger take their gear and doing good knows what.
I signed up, great idea. It might be great for smaller bands that want to do gigs abroad, but can't afford to ship all their gear to the location. If this becomes big you could just rent out stuff in every city you get to.
New AD's Channel by Fluff. 100% all Ad's All The Time.
Too small website to talk about on TH-cam.. I believe there are like less than 50 instruments spreading both in Canada and USA.
Needs a paid promotion watermark.Didn't notice at first until I watched a Pete Contrell video immediately after and saw that Fluff didn't disclose this in his.
Never lol
cool info fluff an love the hagstorm fantomen i got one a few months ago in tabaco sunburst lovely axe
Interesting concept but I'm WAAYY too paranoid about some stranger touching and potentially damaging my stuff.
Can you do video on what guitars you own? It's a bit tricky to keep track of all your guitars
The idea seems cool
On the top of it, it seems like a WIN / WIN situation. The renter gets what they need, and the owner gets paid.
But what isn't being said completely ruins it's for the owner seeking to potentially offer their hard earned equipment for rent. Which makes it only sound like a WIN / RISK situation.
A VITAL PART OF INFORMATION WAS MISSING FROM THE VIDEO.
WHAT SAFE GUARDS ARE SET IN PLACE BY THE COMPANY, FOR THE OWNER, IN CASE OF DAMAGED OR STOLEN EQUIPMENT?
SEEING THAT THIS VIDEO IS SPONSORED BY FRETISH, THIS POST BECOMES NOTHING MORE THAN JUST AN ADD THAT IS SEVERELY LACKING VITAL INFORMATION.
Fretish? Is Friedman behind that name?
Seems interesting, but I'd like to know what specific protections are afforded to the owners of the Instruments. If someone drops my guitar and breaks it, or damages it, what recourse do I have? Their faq isn't very specific.
I would never rent out my gear. I don’t even loan out my gear.
Yo lemme borrow all your Balaguer guitars. I promise ill give em back
I can see this working well for amps, pa systems and other speaker type things, but guitars seem like a little too much
Sounds great for local studios, who don't want to buy one of each boutique amp on the market for that one particular sound they are after that day...
*YOU WILL NOT TOUCH MY GUITAR.*
I need a guitar that I can play at an outside gig in the rain (this is Seattle after all). I know! I'll just rent one for the night! I honestly expect people to treat rented gear the way they treat rental cars - with contempt and apathy. I appreciate the effort to get their well meaning message out - Thanks Fluff.
Hey Fluff, I have a question, do you still Play your MojoTone british jcm800 ? I am really looking for a simple, no frills jcm800 kinda amp with perhaps slightly more gain. Thinking about ordering a pre build one or a Kit and build it with a friend who studies electroengineering. Keep them videos coming, your new room still looks kinda empty :D
Sounds fun, I wonder if I could rent out my heavily modded Ibanez GRX40 out. Would spend that little income on covering the whole thing in stickers, needs a bit more on that department.
I just moved to Tacoma... and I have a ton of equip. Now ... what I wanna know is how is damage covered? Insurance?
Just buy the dang Fantomen! Loving mine, one I I eventually got it.
hopefully this comes over to germany soon
Fluff this is awesome I was going to shoot you a message today about a way to test that coveted Hyperion you love so much any advice you can give about the Hyperion I'm looking to get a semi custom
The only way I could see this working and the only way I’d use it is if I had equipment just to rent out, something people would use but nothing I’d be sentimental about, I’d then insure it ( probably a specific policy to cover rental). I’ve considered doing this many times with P.A. equipment but never found the space to store the gear lol!
Until someone breaks your stuff :(
Does it work for people in the uk
There's a pretty key difference between this and Airbnb: if I rent my house to someone, they can't just up and ghost with it and I never see them or my house again.
Not buying your enthusiasm fluff. But if you really believe in this....can I rent your RD?😀
I literally had this idea two years ago, never moved on it. Like most of my other ideas. :P
you did well sir, this is a bad idea
frack that! dont trust anyone after getting burnt by idiots with no respect using my gear in the past.....if I even got it back
I can see it being useful in some situations, but I would NEVER rent out my babies. Maybe other music-equipment like pedals, mics, amps, cabs or something, but not guitars.
This is a neat idea that i would love to see become a viable thing that worked well. it would be super useful for one-time studio recordings, or one time live gig to rent quality gear. or even just to try out a piece of gear at home before buying it. there are so many amps that Guitar center doesn't have for! i think it would be like Uber or Lyft... if... the drivers let the passengers drive their cars! (Which actually, a friend of mine does rent out her car like that, so...)
No, no, would 100% not hand someone something I paid for expecting to get it back.
Nice studio
Curious how the shipping will affect pricing.
Hey! I play trumpet! It's one of my mains.
I wanna see Fluff renting out his gear 1st
he said he will rent his Gibson RD for 500bucks/day LOL
yeah, I thought of starting this app a long time ago, then decided, no, unless, it was already relic'd, then and only then, maybe depending on the value of the item. Local music shops rent stuff for gig's etc already. I got a feeling that none of my stuff is going on there......
Correction, If you are recording for a big name and just really don't want to buy a PRS, you can definitely rent one of mine for $5K per day. It's all about the budget baby. Or maybe just call Shawn Tubbs or a similar session guy and pay them 1K per hour? LOL.
this is a cool idea, chill out people. shame there's nothing going on in the uk at the moment
I do play the trumpet. And Saxophone as well. Sax pays the bills, guitar pays my soul.
I'm gonna say no, I just know that if I start renting my beloved PRS to a stranger some turd is gonna tune it do Drop Z and ruin the action. I like the idea, and maybe for some throwaway gear it could work but how are you gonna ever deal with gear getting returned that now has scratches, chips, etc? Is there a legal contract both parties have to sign?
absolutely not. If you have a ton of equipment, and wouldn't miss it, but even then, no, forget it lol, just can't wrap my head around this, one, how many people actually out there that fit this criteria? There are that many transient musicians on vacation that have to go and borrow guitars? A vacation is usually a time to get away from the norm...I would just hit up a Guitar store and play the new stuff and then leave, I don't want to pay rent to jam on a guitar for a couple of days. Just bring my own to the vacation. Interesting to see if there is really a market for this....
I'd rent out amps but i'm really worried about people, even friends, handling instruments
We're is the studio tour????!
I like this idea. Is it localized like craigslist or is it just one site for all of it like Reverb?
Ryan no
Poor ad disclosure hidden down in the description. You can do better.
no joke! everything is about pushing product these days
He's gotta pay rent and eat... We like his videos. If he wants to throw an ad, go for it. We don't have to buy it, or feed into it. What's the use in throwing shade over ads when most of Fluffs ad's are pretty tolerable. Some stuff I've purchased because of him.
There is no problem with him having ads. It's just I would not like to find out because of the description
I honestly don't think anyone should be required to have to tell you anything on why they think this. It really doesnt make much sense in the scheme of things.
No
This seems like a viable thing if you have too much money, buy a bunch of instruments to make this into your own business of instrument/gear rental, and market it as ferociously as possible using Fretish as the vehicle. I can't see how an individual owner with one or two things to rent will want to trust their gear to (likely) strangers, and make any money from that on a regular basis. Interesting idea, Fretish, but will be curious to see how the reality of it pans out. Other commenters have cited the top concerns of damage/theft/wear and tear.
What kind of guitar is that ?
Hmm...yeah I think if I wanted to relic my guitar I would've done it by now.
I'll rent my rare guitars and mic preamps out, just £10,000 a night with extra costs if any damage or 'organic stuff' comes back with it.
I feel like you could (I’m not saying you should ) but you could get free gear from this by buying a piece of gear and then just renting for a little bit until you in theory make your money so on and so far.
BelowAverageCuber you'd have to rent out a piece of gear for at least 11% more than the one you're renting, because of the charges
This is really cool! It's a shame I live in Sweden though. ;/
wich is the name of that guitar?
The only way I see this making sense is if they keep track of the overall value of the item you rented out and have the people renting the items attach their bank account which would have to have enough money In it to cover the overall value, so Fretish can auto withdraw the amount due no questions if the item gets lost, damaged, stolen, or pawned off. They don't let you rent a car if you don't have insurance, there needs to be something similar in place here.
People treat any rented stuff in life like shit. Why would i subject my precious gear to that?
I can understand like amps and pedals, drums. But guitars and basses?! hell no.
it is like renting your underwear)) NO, simply NO!!!
What happens when they don’t come back with the guitar?
I get the play before you buy thing, but isn't that what music stores are for? There's a lot of risk with not a ton of reward here.
yeah....no...I'd rather not have my guitar collection trashed...thanks...
As cool as this sounds, I feel like people are gonna steal instruments rather than borrow it. Maybe I'm being pessimistic idk.
Definitely geography dependent. I'm in Tampa, Florida, and the nearest guitar rentals available to me are 900 miles away. Hopefully this will catch on, and things will be much more available.
Bob Crosley i live in holland so its a no for me then
In Fluff's defense, he does say in the video that the service is just starting and that he's hoping if the word gets out, that it will spread more places.
Ok, I can see how this is a cool concept, and that renting for the day has a zillion benefits. I just have a problem with a shitload of grubby paws grubbing up my precious axes! I'd be good with renting other people's stuff though!
2:41 I resemble that remark!
nope!
Websites like Zzsounds, AMS and musicians friend are good for these things too. Pay as you play.
Clearly owned by Reverb; good for them for expanding into new realms like Vinyl. But wheres my insurance fee and can I charge the other person for damages?
I wouldn't really trust people with my €1500 instrument. Lol
oh thanks this shit is so useful
like your videos \m/ keep it up
Idea is good, will have to read through the T&Cs of fretish. As many guys here pointed out, we do not know what kind of security does Fretish provide. And I bet that it is non-existent, knowing these "marketplace" sites, that try to make money and have no responsibility over the service provided on their platform. I am from central Europe, and I do not really think that this is a good idea around here. If my gear was stolen/never returned, it would take years to get it back through legal actions. I would have to take a deposit of at least half of the street price, and I bet people who would like to rent the gear would not be eager to give me like 500€ as a return-deposit + the night fee
I'm not liking the fact that the ad disclaimer is in the description and not in the video. Were cool with ads fluff, we just want to know it's an ad.
Ok and what if someone like me rent's out a $1,500 guitar and say that it falls with out me touching it and the headstock break's and I go and tell the owner of the guitar that's it do I have to pay the owner back and what about insurance for me I would be to scarred to even take it out of the box I would more rather go to my local guitar store and buy one there and if I wanted to get something special in all I have to do is ask and give him some money and I can get it
This is like asking for someone to damage or steal your gear... granted you won't put up your main guitar or rig on there I would hope, but if it's not a guitar or rig that's something another person can't afford then they won't bother.
Hi Everybody, Fluffy Mays here for Fretish
Maybe in a perfect world
you have cool T-shirt :D
So just from personally reading your comments, it already seems like people are hesitant of lending out their instruments using the service. And rightly so, a lot of us have super nice equipment that we do not want to see get damaged in any form.
Here is an excerpt straight from the site's "How it Works" page:
" *HOW DO I KNOW MY INSTRUMENT WILL BE SAFE?*
At Fretish, we do everything in our power to protect the owner and their instrument. Before any aspiring renter can strap on your ax, they must meet our stringent eligibility criteria. Fretish does not advertise to the masses. Rather, great care is taken to identify musicians that honor and respect instruments and the people that own them. Moreover, you are provided the tools to reject rental requests should you not feel comfortable with a potential renter for any reason."
Use the third Fretish link in the video description for more info.
None of my instruments are ready for rental yet, but I already have an account set up in case I get my instruments cleaned up and presented well, so I can rent out some neat stuff in the Colorado area. I'll mainly have basses, but I'll slowly start to have a collection of instruments, hopefully in the coming months.
Yeah, sounds like a great way to write-off my JVM410 for $40.
But what about damage
Jesus christ i can just about let my closest friends borrow my things, strangers? no.
I wouldn't rent my instruments, but I'd totally rent my amp. And I can see how that could work in that application. Let's say your band has a gig in another town, you could rent amps if the venue doesn't have, and you don't have to travel with your own.
Still, don't f*cking touch my basses.
Musicians Friend has a 45 day no questions asked return policy don't they? Pretty sure Sweetwater Sound does too.
they all do, also GC, but its not meant to be abused. Im sure if you do that more than once theyll black list you
honestly I'd rent from it
Fuck that idea.
I'd have to stay with my guitars. I hanging out with the renter for the day. I might be able to handle that. They'd be renting me and my guitar. You might be able to tell by character, if there are responsible enough, but you open yourself up to the one's that aren't responsible, then you have to try to deny these people service. That's some self inflicting frustrations