Honda CR-Z Mugen - Fifth Gear Web TV
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Thanks to some serious mods from Honda's tuning specialists Mugen, this outrageous one-off version of the hybrid coupe is capable of producing 197bhp and getting to 60mph in around 6.5 seconds. We took Mugen's £150,000 prototype to some twisty Welsh roads to give it a proper thrashing.
Why is everybody complaining that sport cars are hard?!?! That's the freaking point of a SPORTS SUSPENTION. Who doesn'd like it can always buy a Citroen
Fun fact.
The hideously hard "Sport Mode" that firms up suspension and makes it feel more "sporty" actually causes the car to be slower.
Depends on the road surface
Marko Mravak
Choppy roads, elevation changes, loads of twisties.
In other words, most country-roads in europe.
You don't want an overly hard suspension, because such a setup will be unsettled too easily.
That is true, but this is race car that you can drive to the track. And you wont be braking speed records on the road
Marko Mravak
Top Gear actually had the Stig run some lap-times with cars in both normal and sport-setting. I'd say RAF Dunsfold is fairly close to the road-surfaces you get on normal country roads.
Fuck me, are you sure the bonnet is closed?
is everyone here just ignorant? think outside the box, there's a racing class for every car. if you want to say "why wont you buy a real sports car?" then there would be only one race class. appreciate the car for what it is.
heck, there's even racing for cars that aren't race cars.
@@Redstoneprime316 no way
Honda... Take the CR-Z drop a K20-k24 nuff said
Austin Bables hasport isn't making the wiring harnesses anymore tho unfortunately. But are talking to another company to take over the harness stuff. Or you'll have to run a custom harness with motec dash.
honda has new engines that are better but they need to be tuned.
Long gone are the days of Naturally aspirated VTECs that revs to 9000..... I miss those days, I miss the Honda back then.
HuskyWarrior 0029 u been huffing paint? K engines still rev high. This is a hybrid that revs to 6500 stock. If you want it to scream drop some money and k swap. Or tune this engine and tune it to rev higher.
When he slams the hood 😳
£150,000? Comone, you gotta be kiddin!
I tuned Hondas for less then 5K and they were WAY better then this...
When I would put that kind of money into a Honda, I´d expect it to be able to:
1. Outsprint a Murcielago
2. Turn twice as good as a Evo X
3. Looks like it can both
Not some riced out ECO Hybrid wannebe with
less Power than a bock standart Civic Typ R!
The sports exhaust sound reminds me to The Fast And The Furious movie (Honda Civic scene)... pretty cool sound 👍😎
are you kidding me ?
only 200 hp and so expensive ( i know its a prototype )
get a civic type-r
slamming the hood. seriously!
tht really hurt me I was like way would u do tht lol
tht really hurt me I was like way would u do tht lol
I think they should add a 'Mugen' button, that activates the extreme sportiness and the exhaust, switching from a mild 'normal' CR-Z mode. This would increase the price though
The reviewer wants an Si. This should've been reviewed by someone who loves Type Rs.
I remember a time when a statement like this:
"... and thanks to a supercharger..."
would be followed by this:
"... it has 500 horsepower"
My electric toothbrush has 200 hp. F**ck, where is the Honda from the 90's?
AHha, Vtec hybrid just kick in Yo!!He says got lil bit,Head eck,Back eck.
Honda wasted almost 7 years with this car sadly. So much potential behind this car being amazing but they opted with a tiny 1.5 liter hybrid engine. If they offered this car standard with a k series 2.0 or 2.4 engine instead, they'd be selling like hot cakes. You don't even need to turbo or supercharge it and its better than a type r, and you can't even get type r's in the US yet! Sadly i think its because of US regulations and how much room has to be left within the engine bay for safety standards. Ill love my CR-Z until the end though.
I'm surprised they didn't offer a gas only version.
@@Burnt_clutch89 That's where tuning comes in.
k20 rips crz body aparts, the metal sheet aren't strong enough for the K
bullocks
Try slammin the hood down harder lol
you gotta hear a k20 or b16 or h22a with full catback...
Very cool, but ain't no way somebody paid £150k for this, especially in 2011.
@MagicSeal Then you are misinformed my friend. I'm guessing you've never heard of the i-DTEC then. Honda already has diesel technology and they've been investing in it for a long time in Europe. America has yet to re-embrace diesel and we just aren't smart enough to force companies to use it. It's cleaner, better gas mileage and (the big issue) they can last up to a million miles...that's why they don't like them lol.
@StingRayINC naaaaah man..you didn't offend me in any way..i thought your comment was cool.just pointing out the fact its not actually that price..gtr rocks and if the honda ends up costing any where near 130 grand then the gtr is the obvious choice :)
If only Honda gave the people what they really wanted and stopped with the Hybrid propaganda BS.
A CR-Z with the K24 from the new Si, would yield great performance while maintaining good fuel-mileage.
It's what 99% of Honda enthusiasts want. And Honda won't give it to them for some stupid reason.
I don't even own or have ever owned a Honda just for the record.
@StingRayINC its that price because its a prototype..all prototypes are hugely expensive..the prototype of the gtr was around 700,000 pound..not the price you,d pay in the dealership for the mass produced model lol
Only people know jack shit about car call this rice. That said still not impressed with the 6k5 rpm redline. I know it's because the engine was design for the CVT gearbox to cope but should have just swapped a 1.8l/2.0l engine roughly at 140-160PS, sportier suspension and call it a day.
wanna know something funny...my rx8 with a smaller naturally aspirated engine gets the same mpg when im just cruising around as this thing does flat out on some b roads ): good thing i could care less about its mpg :)
people stop ur bitching about hybrids....theyre the future, think how many cars now come out wirh a hybrid version of some sort...gas is near 4 bucks a pop and diesel is well over that, and it wont go back down in price thats a guarantee. its nice to see a hybrid that DOESNT look like a vanilla econobox. if u think this car cant produce power google up bisimoto cr-z to find yourself a 500 hp cr-z. think im joking? look it up, theres a few you tube vids floating around...
I also agree that the future is hydrogen power cell. But diesel engines has just reached its peak - noisy, heavy, no fun to drive as gasoline engines - while the next hybrid generation is coming with plug in, better storage batteries and much much better fuel economy, at least for the next 20 years we will see them replacing the market. And i know there's diesel hybrids too.
At city hybrids are more economical, diesels are more in the highway.
@CarvalhoCaldeira No, hybrids are a feel good trap. You use about as much gas as the TDIs do...only with extra damage to the earth that those battery packs inflict. The real future is in hydrogen, but TDI will do a much better job of holding us over then a hybrid. Oh yeah diesel engine can run on used corn oil to boot. Besides which...you have any idea how good of a gas mileage a 2200(what the CRZ would be sans hybrid system) lb chassis mated to the modern k20 would get?!?
@Isurus777 yes it is the r&d testing, custom fabrication of parts, carbon fiber, engine rebuild, engineering costs all add up prototype cars always are very expensive then after the initial r&d is done the only cost are the parts that is why if this car goes on sale it wont cost 150k but rather the sum of the original car+new parts+p rofit to offset the initial development. My friend's father was given an nsx and 500k by honda a few years back to make a prototype with 600hp
@Ayrton4everrrU cant compare 1.5L with 2.0L i mean L15A VS K20A its the same system which is I VTEC but the different is that the CRZ challenge cars which is on the same category of it means Suzuki swift,Nissan tida,toyota yaris,......!! A lot of cars u cant put ur integra & challeng this small VTEC..take ur integra in the circuit VS NA2 NSX-R & let me know if ur car is faster than this car or not N then talk about CRZ or JAZZ or FIT..specially when u will understand the Power Of Dreams Nonsense
Honda should make a naughtier version ... Mugen shouldn't.
While the IMA system is good, Honda is grossly overestimating it's potential in sporty vehicles. Where VW (for example) have gone for the advanced turbo option, getting very similar mpg's from bigger engines that have to work less, Honda went for the underpowered option which not only means you have to murder the engine to go fast-ish but also that Honda has taken the tuning potential and fun out, thus missing out on a big market share.
Ok this not something we expect form Honda as they can do better take the old Civic TypeR and by the old one I I mean the one that looked less cool but did everything better. This Honda is kind of like that not as good as the standard model which was ok for everyday people. The new sportier versions is well rubbish on every level it does not even make a pleasant noise. If they put this into production they better improve it a lot.
I rate it right up there with a "Pet Rock" for being useless. Mugen is laughable for trying to sport up a wimpy Hybrid in the first place. And their exhaust tip looks like left over parts from an RX-8. Impress me and do away with the hybrid bullshit and put a real engine in it. If it's going to sound like a pissed off hornet let's see it sting like one too. Crush this shit and start over!
lololol my 97 buick park avenue fully loaded most comfortable car ever 3900 pounds hits 60 in 6 seconds. NO compromise. Sofa on wheels and still gets 37mpg on highway. sorry honda you lose thats why you only sell what 6-8% and they put $10k into it to make it hit 6.5 to 60 lololol laugh keep it stock its an amazing mpg car
Im surprised Im wasting time on this, but I must school you chevy boy (figures) for the greater good. Listen to how the Japanese pronounce the "Z" in CRZ. They MADE the fucking car and that how we say it where im from, taking the pronunciation from the makers themselves, not the british!! If you want to take it further look it up on youtube.
Meh.... should have came out like this in the first place. Not impressed one bit. But I won't lie either Honda.... its a decent looking hatchback (STANDARD VERSION) not this thing. Just get 85% of the performance from this Mugen into the standard and everyone will be happy as long as its at a reasonable price.
Why even mention 20mpgs. They were trashing it all the time, that consumption is hardly any reference. Every car would do awful if you keep pushing it. Its just misleading...
Other than that I think the conclusion is on the spot, too loud and hard but in general an excellent idea.
The fuck....if you can't handle it then don't buy it....
200 BHP in a compact car with hard suspesnion,meant for driving hard (which you did,obviously) then you complain about roughness.
This is exactly why the japanese never want to share ut's shit with the rest of the world. All you do is complain.
ive got a head ache, my back hurts and a have a burning sensation in my vagina wah wah wah. what's the point of even mentioning the price if its a one offf that mugen will never sell? and also why didnt they ditch all the hybrid crap and just drop in a k20a? that motor would make this car so much better
If anything.... CRZ is NOT good value. Are you serious? It's freakin expesive for what you get... small 2 seater and it even doesn't look that good.
This is not the first hybrid with a manual shift. It's the 3rd (after the original insight and civic hybrids)
.
@jdmjax There's 1.8 billion people who speak English either as a first or a second language. Of those 1.8 billion, only people in the USA pronounce "z" as 'zee' - that's a mere 17%. So perhaps YOU should learn to speak proper English.
This is not good enough Honda! You have created a stunning looking sports Coupe that looks so much better than the old CRX... Mugen are just fiddling with it now! Please, Please give it some more power without so much comfort stripping!!
@rgranozi0 Um... no. He didn't really slam it, he dropped it. Nor did pointing to something a couple inches off the ground with his foot instead of getting down on all fours really irk me either.
Maybe you should calm down a bit.
Why not just put the CR-Z + Mugen mods $ into a decent European sports car and be done with it?
Probably cheaper (even after production version comes out) and you're going to end up with a much better car that doesn't sound obnoxious.
why Honda don't place the electric motor in the back? is a 2 sitter after all. Maybe when the front wheels turn the electric motor sends more torque to the rear wheel that needs it, just for a future (si) just saying.
@megabowzer100 I understand, but If you take a look at that car, and the way the reviewer expressed the price of the car, it's hard not to react like me.....i apologize if the comment have offended you.
buy a quality german car, the GTI, 6.3 seconds to 60, 200 hp turbo and luxurious interior, plus it gets about 30 mpg on the highway- oh, and it is not 150 fuckin K!
WTF WAS HONDA THINKING?
does anybody else want to punch this guy in the face?
i mean it's a £150,000 car.....did he really have to slam the CF hood and point out the exhaust with his foot?
no respect......
To all comments..if you gays don't know what is honda or mugen power dont talk about it & if u want to comment about it u should understand the Power Of Dreams N then talk..
i think the mugen version should lose the electric motor entirely and just have an s2000 engine.. sport and economy are like oil and water.. dont get along too well.
Lmao with MPG's like that, Honda should've probably dropped the electric motor altogether for the Mugen version.
njintau it would've got worse mpg.
@@Burnt_clutch89 Mugens are built for performance. not fuel economy.
@@Redstoneprime316 🤣🤣🤣 to right bud. Love the idea of this car so much, I have purchased one. They made 300 for Japan only. I have car 006 of 300. 👍
Basicly a 2 seat 2011 civic, for like $232,018.56+ u.s. dollars haha, think about that in 2015! i am thinking about picking a 2011 shop tuned supercharged same hp for $12,000 in a few days
Imagine the idiot that buys this car for £150,000 and a week later Honda decides to push this car out for production under 30k lol you got Ripped By Honda Sucker!
Why do people think that you could buy this car for 150 grand?? That's just the sum it cost Honda to develop this car. It's Not the buying price... mrns...
If you have car tv show,you MUST consider hiring host that can SPEAK LOUD ENOUGH SO WE CAN HEAR HIM!!! How unprofessional is that in 21 century!
@PeetPeeet maybe because of the transmition that has to work with the electric motor. who knows what the future will bring for this car
fake exhaust sound...i see alot of those old honda civic with those LOUD exhaust. They make a lot of noise, but they are not moving away.
"just dont make as brutal as that one" what a wuss.. MUGEN means unlimited power. they don't produce Kent and barbie version of CRZ
@igeralddayawon its the British-Engliish Pronounciation , now if it were spoken in american-english , it would be CR-ZEE Happy ?
chucking away the rear seats? The CR-Z never came with rear seats :S....thought it was a straight up 2 seater from the get-go
@TheVtieg6
which means it will be not any near as cool as it is now...so basically its useless :)
i do kinda like that front... not gonna lie... but... needs a K24, THEN it will START being cool
@RelativeRelativiness /watch?v=eLgHkE073NI&feature=related
Honda is from japan, you can hear how they say it.. CRZ = CRZ
I am confused. Why make a hybrid car faster? Why not a different engine?!
It's like a sports minivan....why bother?
they wont cost that much and theres a 500hp one already from bisimoto. AND you can buy all the parts from their site!
It's expensive because it's a prototype. If it were to go into production it would obviously not cost that much
lol at all that drone. stupid ricers. cant believe mugen produces trash that makes all sorts of cabin noise.
What a hater this reviewer is. Slamming the hood?Kicking the exhaust? You mad bro?
@edmaluf Your electric toothbrush has 200 hp?. You must have some mean dental issues
honda still can't get it right. Or in this case mugen couldnt do much to get this car right either
@bigboy789inches its a one of a kind prototype. Once they start producing it the price will drop.
@ghhgyiufff it's so obvious he does not, yes him does not like hondas and has never owned 1.
Why didn't the just take all of the batteries and the traction motor out of to save weight?
@arminask i don't think they will recoup their investment but they probably never expected to
This car looks great, but they should offer 2 liter vtec alternative, a honda trademark.
WHY THE FUCK WOULD I SPEND MY MONEY ON THAT(if I have that much money) ?? IT IS SO UGLY
take out the heavy battery and electric motor, put in a built B18. Sexy looking ride.
@FuriousPumpkin obviously if this goes into production, it aint gona cost that much!
lol that's crazy they'll have to sell a lot of those to make up for 150,000 pounds.
Geez..did he slam the hood hard enough?
Surprised he didn't crack the carbon fiber
I Like The Old CRX more
I got one 1991 vtec in silver
For 130k pound I'll give Honda the middle Finger and and buy a 2012 Nissan GTR.
@daizmiester they did for other countries. they took it away for US models.
That car needs to come into production asap I want one! this could be the next rally car to compete in the X-games and rally car courses.
That not crz is not brutal a suabru STI is brutal, so that would do just fine.
@jdmjax it's how European people pronounce the character "z," get over it.
@Disishalloween sorry for bad grammar I was trying to fit everything in lol
THIS IS WORTH 150 ,OOO POUNDS AND IM JUST GONNA SLAM THE BONNET DOWN HA HA
brutal is good.
It's not a honda if the engine doesn't scream like i'm dying, i'm dying!
i REFUSE to pay 100,000 for a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE sports car.EPIC FAIL!!!!
@xAngeloxNarcisex is a concept car =_= it costs them 211,000 to make..
its got the same power as corsa vxr lol and costs 5 times the price.
£150k for 200bhp JeeZzZ honda put out an idiot test
@RelativeRelativiness I call BS. This Euro-English speak style is not followed by those with ESL. LOL. Maybe its normal in your tiny country/region, but here in the good ol' usa and Japan a CRZ is a CRZ, NOT a "CR - Zed". LOL. Ask ANY tuner!! This guy messed up!!
only america (and maybe some other countries) pronounce "Z" as "Zee". The rest pronounce it as "Zed".
Buy this guy a bloody prius stop moaning about how a sporty prototype is sporty dumbass
Hey nice exhaust. Reminds me of the old Civic Si from the late 80s
Frederick Tambunan sports exhaust
and I have a feeling the sound is quite 'fake' for a hybrid.
get somebody with real car passion they will give a better view than a nerd that would drive a deisal audi
Want a fast car with that price tag ? Not CR-Z for sure .