i gotta say i have to agree with the views in this video. For starters, droop settings are kinna important for some people on bashers, not just racers.
My outcast EXB 8s rear arm broke for the first time yesterday. But it was a bad landing and it was below freezing outside. I was going to go RPM but now I'm just gonna go stock again
They need to make it available to purchase certain parts individually. Because I keep breaking the left a arm on my other cars and I have an abundance of right arms. Or make the arms reversible.
I found that using the gpm aluminium arms all round has saved me a lot more money in the long run.. yeah I know what you'll be thinking, metal usually makes another part vulnerable. The only parts I break now when landing on one wheel is a hinge pin will snap, due to the no flex at all I've noticed that now, I never get bent drive shafts, shock shafts and no bend links 👍 due to the wait of this car plastic arms or not good it just can't take a bad landing without breaking.
Love the vid! I 100% agree I no longer run rpm anything between the over-flex and the customer service on warranty I buy proline or oem all my RPM products have been thrown away to save me money lol.
After all those issues you had, would you still recommend the car to someone else ? I really want the exb outcast so bad but reading about all issues people have makes me curious if it would be a smart buy
Have you looked into buying Tekno MT-410? They take a good bashing. I bought a used Tekno about a year ago and I liked it so much, I bought a new MT-410 kit.
I only use rpm front lower control arms on my Outcast 8s. I use stock arms in the rear. I rarely break those. Heck, even the front ones rarely break on both my Outcast 8s and EXB K8S.
Okay I kind of get what your saying but fact is even with the arrma stock arms you can destroy shocks all day long from a bad crash ot hitting a pole or thin tree and even if it rolls if the arm brakes and continues to role down a hill it's proper carnage I mean i watched the video it was such a small role and the thing broke like wtf.. however I fully get what your saying in regards to the rpm arm having too much flexibility but there's things you can do to prevent the forward backwards flexibility and the up down flexibility in regards to restricting it without reducing the durability of the arms but then design engineers understands the physics and solutions and often has access to machinery to make the sample to Q.C it and durability test like I have... I wouldn't be happy having to constantly fix a car every time it was taken out and rolled that's crazy fact is you can make a case for anything if you really wanted too with a bias agenda I just couldn't justify those weak arms I mean if it took a proper tumble your gonna break a lot more then just the arm and suspension, talking about suspension you can adjust the suspension to work in favour of the rpms also 😅 I think I might have too make a video showing a how too showing how one part can improve the rpm arms for 5th scale use without compromised strength. Fact is arrma arms are brittle rpms are not and as you said if you had a way to limit the front to back movement flexibility. Which I have designed a concept and tested 😉
Looks like you got it down to a science…best fix set up for the moment…eventually issues have better solutions with time … thinking outside the box 👍👍👍
Why cant you try boiling the A arms😭. I took my notorious 6s i crashed idk how many times into one tire like legit one tire and it didnt break. Not saying its going to make the oucast 8s survive but its worth trying
@@earlmoorhead5555 wd40 doesnt do anything. It just makes plastic shine. I personally now use protek truguard to make my plastic look like new and act as a dust repealent. I think its the same stuff as your plastic shine product you use. I received a drop on my eye and my eye didn't react it acted like it was water.
@@earlmoorhead5555 do an experiment boil the Arms and see what difference there is in flex vs stock with nothing done to it. If i could i would but i dont have the means
Definitely agree with your reasoning. I remember some interview with like Colin McRae and his crew chief one of the things I took from it was “Engineered Failure” when they were talking about what it takes to finish a stage in that case some part of the strut assembly was designed to collapse and fail and it was a simple swap to fix when it didn’t fail because a stronger part was used they found themselves swapping control arms and either fixing or replacing subframes and a few other parts costing more time to repair. In RC I remember the hay day of Nitro Monster Trucks and all the aluminum people were throwing at those trucks trying to make them indestructible 🤦♂️
In my opinion the causing of breaking suspension links is very complex! Often there appeared 10 or much more bad landings you hit boulders, roots and other things like that. Is anybody counting how many times you nearly broke a link? 🤔 i don’t! Even in the moment it cracks i cannot tell the exact influences- except it was much over the 🔝 😳 Sometimes stuff breaks and I absolutely agree to better break cheap parts! Btw the mail from rpm is a joke to me: these front hubs just seem too soft in higher temperatures.! I think this could be a fair answer. I watch a guy from germany who just fitted them to his Xmaxx maybe it’s working here.? Very good video again Earl! Thank you for sharing your experience all the time!
I see and agree from what I can watch in your videos! This is true for the outcast. It’s the style and construction of a heavier buggyfied truck instead of the Xmaxx what makes the difference in durability i think 🤔 Would like to tell all my thoughts on that, but it’s too much for a comment! Even more as you may remember I’m not a native speaking. So at least I want you to know that I feel very pleased you’re answering my comments instead there are so many more subscribers! Thanks for that too! Have a great day 👍🏻
@@earlmoorhead5555 They are definitely going down a bad path with warranty on their products. My local hobby shop has RPm arms that won’t get warrantied either dont feel bad hour not the only one who ain’t being treated right by RPM 😓
@@earlmoorhead5555 that’s not good !!!! Live your channel dude keep it up ……. Still waiting to press the order button in one of these rigs !!! Only reason I haven’t is people keep telling me to get the xmaxx …… problem is I really like the outcast 😦
What doesn’t make sense to me is how is an RPM arm going to flex more than a broken arm? 🤷🏻♂️😂 and after you called a wheel a rim 🤦🏻♂️ I can’t watch another one of your boring videos
✌🏻😎🏴I told you we need to start an A Arm swap group 😂.
Yes we do 😜😜😜
The 1/5 seems too heavy. They need to scale down the 1/5 engineering to the 1/8 line and they'd be perfect.
Yep
i gotta say i have to agree with the views in this video. For starters, droop settings are kinna important for some people on bashers, not just racers.
RPM arm not for me . too flex . specially if you are speed driver
to bad they didnt have flexible axles kinda like a weed wacker deiveshaft that cable springsteel
My outcast EXB 8s rear arm broke for the first time yesterday. But it was a bad landing and it was below freezing outside. I was going to go RPM but now I'm just gonna go stock again
I still run Rpm 🤔🤔🤔 sooooo if you wanna get rid of those HMU 🤙
I don’t run as hard as you
Awesome vid Rcfam 👊🏾😎
They need to make it available to purchase certain parts individually. Because I keep breaking the left a arm on my other cars and I have an abundance of right arms. Or make the arms reversible.
Yes 👍
I found that using the gpm aluminium arms all round has saved me a lot more money in the long run.. yeah I know what you'll be thinking, metal usually makes another part vulnerable. The only parts I break now when landing on one wheel is a hinge pin will snap, due to the no flex at all I've noticed that now, I never get bent drive shafts, shock shafts and no bend links 👍 due to the wait of this car plastic arms or not good it just can't take a bad landing without breaking.
How you doing now bro, still finding the GPM good ?
Soo the stock control arms are better solutions than RPM arms?
Yes
Love the vid! I 100% agree I no longer run rpm anything between the over-flex and the customer service on warranty I buy proline or oem all my RPM products have been thrown away to save me money lol.
Yes 💯💯👌👌
Rpm only on 1/10 scale lower and higher scale there fucking trash
Both times I ordered from RPM I had to call them because they sent me the wrong parts
After all those issues you had, would you still recommend the car to someone else ? I really want the exb outcast so bad but reading about all issues people have makes me curious if it would be a smart buy
I feel if you own a traxxas xmaxx the next buy is the outcast 8s my number two rc I run
Exb mojave
Have you looked into buying Tekno MT-410? They take a good bashing. I bought a used Tekno about a year ago and I liked it so much, I bought a new MT-410 kit.
Yes
@@letfingerswalk I’ve heard those are pretty good but I’m looking for a 5 or 6scale
Wow solid save, I put aluminum on mine, I know it’s stupid for many other reasons… but I did it 🤷♂️
I rather replace a arm than a shock anyday. I don't run rpm arms anymore except for 1/10 scale rigs.
Great video Earl Love all the information and I think RPM sucks too it's crazy that it's usually always the same side 🔥👍💯
2 feet and one millimetre. I must start practicing to jump below this hieght. lol.✌
Lol me to 😜😜
I only use rpm front lower control arms on my Outcast 8s. I use stock arms in the rear. I rarely break those. Heck, even the front ones rarely break on both my Outcast 8s and EXB K8S.
get you some 1/4" inside diameter hose tube and put a little bit of it inside the shock that will fix the rpm arms from over extending
Sorry you are right I was just trying to help much love
Appreciate the comment and help 🙏🙏
Okay I kind of get what your saying but fact is even with the arrma stock arms you can destroy shocks all day long from a bad crash ot hitting a pole or thin tree and even if it rolls if the arm brakes and continues to role down a hill it's proper carnage I mean i watched the video it was such a small role and the thing broke like wtf.. however I fully get what your saying in regards to the rpm arm having too much flexibility but there's things you can do to prevent the forward backwards flexibility and the up down flexibility in regards to restricting it without reducing the durability of the arms but then design engineers understands the physics and solutions and often has access to machinery to make the sample to Q.C it and durability test like I have... I wouldn't be happy having to constantly fix a car every time it was taken out and rolled that's crazy fact is you can make a case for anything if you really wanted too with a bias agenda I just couldn't justify those weak arms I mean if it took a proper tumble your gonna break a lot more then just the arm and suspension, talking about suspension you can adjust the suspension to work in favour of the rpms also 😅 I think I might have too make a video showing a how too showing how one part can improve the rpm arms for 5th scale use without compromised strength. Fact is arrma arms are brittle rpms are not and as you said if you had a way to limit the front to back movement flexibility. Which I have designed a concept and tested 😉
Never brocken an ExB shock yet ? This is an early release model
Bash & Blast...not so much. Spend & Fix rinse repeat....Yeah.
I couldnt agree more bud
Bad Landings SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good to know...thanks bro
Looks like you got it down to a science…best fix set up for the moment…eventually issues have better solutions with time … thinking outside the box 👍👍👍
Yes 👍
Outcast back in action
Maybe some mud flaps to stiffen the rpm arms and limiting straps.
Why cant you try boiling the A arms😭. I took my notorious 6s i crashed idk how many times into one tire like legit one tire and it didnt break. Not saying its going to make the oucast 8s survive but its worth trying
I have tried wd40 soaking
@@earlmoorhead5555 wd40 doesnt do anything. It just makes plastic shine. I personally now use protek truguard to make my plastic look like new and act as a dust repealent. I think its the same stuff as your plastic shine product you use. I received a drop on my eye and my eye didn't react it acted like it was water.
@@earlmoorhead5555 do an experiment boil the Arms and see what difference there is in flex vs stock with nothing done to it. If i could i would but i dont have the means
Definitely agree with your reasoning.
I remember some interview with like Colin McRae and his crew chief one of the things I took from it was “Engineered Failure” when they were talking about what it takes to finish a stage in that case some part of the strut assembly was designed to collapse and fail and it was a simple swap to fix when it didn’t fail because a stronger part was used they found themselves swapping control arms and either fixing or replacing subframes and a few other parts costing more time to repair. In RC I remember the hay day of Nitro Monster Trucks and all the aluminum people were throwing at those trucks trying to make them indestructible 🤦♂️
Yes I agree 💯💯
In my opinion the causing of breaking suspension links is very complex! Often there appeared 10 or much more bad landings you hit boulders, roots and other things like that. Is anybody counting how many times you nearly broke a link? 🤔 i don’t! Even in the moment it cracks i cannot tell the exact influences- except it was much over the 🔝 😳
Sometimes stuff breaks and I absolutely agree to better break cheap parts!
Btw the mail from rpm is a joke to me: these front hubs just seem too soft in higher temperatures.! I think this could be a fair answer. I watch a guy from germany who just fitted them to his Xmaxx maybe it’s working here.?
Very good video again Earl! Thank you for sharing your experience all the time!
I look at run time desert parks grass driving seems to be about 1.5 hours of my style driving it breaks
I see and agree from what I can watch in your videos! This is true for the outcast. It’s the style and construction of a heavier buggyfied truck instead of the Xmaxx what makes the difference in durability i think 🤔
Would like to tell all my thoughts on that, but it’s too much for a comment! Even more as you may remember I’m not a native speaking. So at least I want you to know that I feel very pleased you’re answering my comments instead there are so many more subscribers! Thanks for that too!
Have a great day 👍🏻
@@kevinmagiera9157 thanks 🙏 agree there a lot that goes into a durable rc 💯💯
Why don’t you use fuel tube inside that shock to make the shock shorter then use m2c racing shock shaft then rpm a arms Problem solved
Won’t stop the forward back breakage of the shocks like I explained 🤷🏻♂️
Have you tried soaking the Arrma A-arms in WD40 for 24 hours? Supposedly this makes the plastic less brittle.
Yes I’ve tried it on my xmaxx
@@earlmoorhead5555 this is crazy soaking in wd40 would have zero effect and that's scientifically proven
Buy m2c racing shock shafts and you’ll be good to go
I snapped them first jump on my outcast 8s and rather bend them with the stock one is where I ended up 🤷🏻♂️
I have never broken a rpm arm on my arrma kraton 1:5 nore have I broken a shock shaft. And I beat it
Can I send you a box full of mine off my m2c chassis Kraton 😜😜😜
You the man Earl as always
Thanks 🙏
Love the video 👍😎
In my experience RPM arms are great as long as you don't go above 4s arms.✌
It’s not RPM ruining anything. It’s the driver bailing that is breaking your parts. 😊👍
Yes
So what about rpm lifetime warranty? Should they cover parts giving this lifetime warranty they claim to have or denied every claim ?
@@earlmoorhead5555
They are definitely going down a bad path with warranty on their products.
My local hobby shop has RPm arms that won’t get warrantied either dont feel bad hour not the only one who ain’t being treated right by RPM 😓
Yes I agree I hate to support companies like that 💯💯
@@earlmoorhead5555
Keep up the great work bud. You make Epic videos. 👊😊
Thanks for a good advice 👍 on my traxxas since they sell Hd parts I preferred that now instead of rpm.
What wheels you using with your outcast exb ???
Right now duratrax six pack but there only 5 runs in and coming apart 🤷🏻♂️
@@earlmoorhead5555 that’s not good !!!! Live your channel dude keep it up ……. Still waiting to press the order button in one of these rigs !!! Only reason I haven’t is people keep telling me to get the xmaxx …… problem is I really like the outcast 😦
Such good information. Thank you for sharing.
So do bits that come out of bit holders!!!
One of those cases where the "upgrade" really is not an upgrade just different and more expensive.
What doesn’t make sense to me is how is an RPM arm going to flex more than a broken arm? 🤷🏻♂️😂 and after you called a wheel a rim 🤦🏻♂️ I can’t watch another one of your boring videos
Thanks for stopping in 👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 I Took his place .
Hello we can tell you are a mechanic plier hammer , power drill tension wrench. Lol love it . Great explanation and great reasoning . 😁
😳😜😜