Love and Frustration: iPads for Music Production 💗😠💗
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- iPads are the ultimate definer between "want" and "need".
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Timestamps/app list
0:00 - Intro
2:20 - Apple Bulls$#t
4:45 - Class Compliance
7:35 - iPads ARE nice tho
8:35 - Waddabout Android?
9:37 - Sensel Morph
11:01 - Patterning 2
13:41 - Troublemaker
15:05 - Flip (Lucy's beat)
16:52 - Ruismaker
17:50 - Beatmaker
19:05 - FAC Alteza (reverb)
20:02 - Nanostudio 2
23:24 - Some song called Grape?
24:39 - Mozaic
25:13 - AUM
26:29 - Fugue Machine
26:48 - Retro Piano - Zero Reverb - GAUSS
28:38 - PEACE MUSIC
30:12 - Drambo
36:00 - Me talking
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Aw thanks for sharing Flip! The devs are working on MIDI implementation now - we just put all the resources into making it as good as it could be standalone first :) Lucy is adorbs
When will the devs work on the Android version?
Just got it yesterday, and of COURSE the first thing I do is sample the cat to make a beat out of. It's a great app!
Adorbs??!! ........ hey And’s......enough with the cringe....sheesh.🙄
@@BrunodeSouzaLino Huang has said that Android is not good for music production and that porting Flip is a fairly low priority.
And when will we have flying cars
It usually goes like this: invest in an iPad to use it as gear -> mess around a bit -> use it just for TH-cam.
Yup. I wish it was as friendly for musicians as it is for visual artists. If you do design or Illustration work, it's pure bliss. It really is a shame.
Absolutely this... it was such a tempting promise, just grab a nice little device to make some music without switching on the computer, firing up the daw. But the touch interface is just too slow and cumbersome compared to mouse and especially keyboard. Frustrating.
Exactly what happened to me with my iPad (6th generation). Except that even for watching TH-cam my Sony Xperia Z2 tablet from 2014 is far superior! Having roughly the same screen size it’s thinner, lighter, has far better sound (built-in stereo speakers), it’s overall ergonomics is simply superior. Unfortunately Sony stopped building tablets.
Hey! I do some web browsing on it sometimes. And there was the one time I saved a movie on it to watch on a plane.
A friend of mine bought an ipad pro for music production. Turns out nothing seems to work. Only garageband works fine.
Now he uses a macbook pro instead, but even that thing doesnt work flawlessly. Software updates make apps useless and gear stops working too.
About three years ago. I was homeless on the streets For around three years Addicted to drugs, down and out pretty bad. Don't worry I cleaned up and got off the streets. But all I had to make music With was a free Obama phone that kept getting stolen and having to get a new one through one of those Obama Phone tents Every 3 months or so with a free demo of "Caustic 3". I got so sick of only being able to make one track and not save that that I pan handled the $10 it took To buy the Full version off of Google Play and bought me a Google Play gift card and purchase the full version. I came up with some pretty cool tracks I feel. It's a shame that that phone wound up getting stolen. I wish I still had those tracks.
Max Matson this is the best story for making music mobile! Stay save man peace ❤️
@@flashgordon4558 Thank you. It's all true. It was a Trippy time for me! There's some good times, a lot of crappy ones.😵😅 I'm just glad I made it out on the other side. One thing I wish I had was those tracks I made?🎹 It seems like every 3 months or so, My phone would get stolen From me. And before I finally got off the street and got my own place was the last one that got stolen. Since that time I started Slowly building up my gear again. And now I record on my small little bit of Outboard I have to my "zoom H5". It's a lot funner that way, But I'm still grateful and thankful for having caustic with me during those crazy times!🙏✋✌
@Walter B Thank you, I appreciate that.🙏 Actually I just got me a new drum machine the "drumbrute impact". I'm loving the thing!🎧💨💫😎👌 I'm hoping Next month, I'll be able to save up for a "micro freak".
@@maxmatson1578 Stay safe. Your story made me sad, because it reminded me of the lowest point of my life, from 2010 to 2014. I got addicted to being high on weed and spice and I wasn't able to make music, because while under the effects, every single synth sound made me scared. Even just a single saw wave note would trigger this feeling of despair. Even a kick drum had a deep meaning of some sort and sounded suspicious, making me feel weird and pulling me deeper into the trip. The few times I finished tracks, they'd make me trip so hard, I got scared of my own music.
I eventually lost my mind to the point where I'd get a new laptop, make music with it, and then slam it against the pavement because in my psychosis, I thought I was being monitored. I had a home but looked and lived like a homeless drug addict. In December 31, 2012, I thought the world was ending, and got really high and ended up making this weird, happy-sounding track called Mystery of Feeling which I literally thought was going to be played in a beautiful island full of people partying to it to welcome the new era in earth.
It's one of only two tracks that survived from my old life, and sometimes I listen to it to remind of where my God rescued me from. The horrible thing is that it literally sounds to me like something that would be played in a huge, empty paradise island full of music lovers just becoming one with music. Ugh. Makes me feel what I felt back then. I'm grateful I've been drug-free since 2014 after going to jail for 45 days and then spending 12 months in a Christian rehab center.
@@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST thank you for sharing your story🙏 I'm glad you're able to pull yourself out of that👍 I know what you mean, for me I feel the Lord definitely pulled me out of that rut myself
I bought an iPad Pro with full intention of using it for music production, and I ended up never doing that. However I started using it for everything else just about, and it became one of the most useful things I own.
I just user my pro for gear. I have a few daws on it but it crashes so I stick with apps that are synths
Was great for reading, simple internet chores, notes, but frustrating to try to actually do much. i ended up just using it as an auxiliary instrument in my setup.
It's really easy to get blinded by the iPad's potential in an 'ideal scenario'. It seems like it's the perfect solution for so many applications, but the road always leads to "why am I not just using a laptop?". I have a new iPad Pro and it's painful how awesome and useless the device can be at the same time.
Great for movies and doodling though.
Get nanostudio, skip CUBASIS.
I'm still considering it lol. I don't plan on ever getting deep into making music with a daw. I just want to have fun and I have a synthesizer I don't use much anymore, I plan on selling for the same price and getting an iPad instead.
This 100 times. The iPad seems like a good groovebox to sketch songs, but as soon as you want to do something more it becomes cumbersome.
Yeah, my iPad Pro is a $900 sheet music folder
As someone who has been aware of Apple bullshit for a long time, this video speaks to me on another level. Thanks for being so educated.
The Moog synth apps are my faves. Animoog in particular is unique and unlike any other synth.
Yeah animoog is really nice!
Lucy's Beat has healed me of all worry and pain
my main love argument: i paid a fraction of the price for my huge library of plugins and softsynths and drum machines and daws that i could never have afforded on mac or windows.
FabFilter suite ~$300 dollarydoos... not bad. Logic now too, it's a lot of fun.
I have been making iOS music since the iPhone 3GS🤯🤯🤯 You’re 1000% right about the “frustrations” regarding compliance. In my opinion, iOS devices are best used with minimal peripherals- headphones (wired) and one camera connection kit (USB to lightening adapter) If I were advising someone new to this world, I’d say stop there. Headphones and camera connection kit. Focus on getting as far as possible with just an iOS device. You’d be surprised by how much you can create😁
The amount of genuine excitement in your voice when talking about your Patreon really filled my heart with joy. I'm glad something's working out for someone.
please do a brand loyalty psychology video, the community needs to hear it, it needs to be the norm to understand that what you buy is not who you are
edit: I do not plan on arguing with anyone about this, just saying I'd like to see a video about what Benn mentioned at 1:10
This
The whole thing is very analogous to political party loyalty/dogma.
Apple's entire market is around the idea that owning an Apple device makes you part of the select group of individuals that "Think Different". In music production, you'll find many people that will not consider you a professional unless you have a Mac.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino I also think there's 2 sides to this conversation, not only do I hope Benn talks about toxic brand loyalty, but also the toxic response to the purchasing decisions of others
@@DataBroth There's no two sides. That's Apple's marketing. Plain and Simple. They pitch themselves as a lifestyle brand, not a computer brand. It's similar to how ProTools works. Any modern DAW made in the last 10 years or so runs circles around it, but we're still tied to it because "the professionals use it".
Love and Frustration indeed Ben, - welcome to our world 😂🙌
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@@FlowFormMobileMusic Nice to see you here bro 😉
@@GavinskisTutorials Iam a big fan Flashbulb))
The thing though is... once you have your setup, going back to Desktop sounds like a nightmare lol. I haven’t touch desktop for music production in over 10 years at this point! 😥😅
Oh man... Ipad has changed how I perform and make music. Using miRack with an Expert Sleepers interface just turned my eurorack into the most powerful modular synth in the world. I now have a smallish 6U case I can carry around with my iPad and midi controller and just go crazy. Adding AUM with its many audio and midi effects (miRack also excels at any of these) just makes everything even more powerful and fun, and I can just add a polysynth or a drummachine on top of that inside AUM... Enso as a looper has also made my workflow incredibly better. Before all this, I was using a laptop to create my hybrid system, but apart from not enjoying carrying an expensive laptop around, I find havin tactile control is so much better and nicer as an interface.
Amazing video just like the rest of your content.
I have learnt so much since discovering your channel.
Thanks so much and keep doing what you do!
ayyy, I love my cruddy old school iPad! I’m big into TouchOSC and stuff like that, but since upgrading my monitor size, I don’t really reach for the OSC tech much anymore.
That being said, if you perform contemporary music, an iPad can really help with pages since page turns can be awfully jank in new scores (sometimes, the only option is a score that you can turn pages on with your feet lol)
This precisely why I haven’t upgraded my iPads constantly , kept my old IOS backups with the apps.
All my music ipads are never connected to the internet and updates are disabled permanently.
I use 3 iConnectivity devices , Midi4+ , the Audio4+ and Mio XL. 2x Alesis IO/docks .
The secret is ,dont upgrade. I own 6 ipads of various generations.
Yuuup, I'm surprised more people haven't realized this yet. The old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is serious advice that should be followed strictly with operating systems and especially on mobile devices, where software and even hardware are designed specifically for the OS that was available when they was developed. If you want it to continue working over time, you should not install software designed for newer hardware. Disable all updates and live on airplane mode. Instruments do not need an internet connection.
Holy shit Drambo is magnificent. Love your videos and sense of humor, always a pleasure Benn!
Your experience matches what happened with me and my attempts to make music on the iPad. Very fair critiques, and nice highlights of the benefits!
Thanks for the straight talk Benn. There's a lot of trending producers telling us how amazing working on iPad is and it always looks too cobbled together and unintegrated.
Just wanted to mention that from my experience the following Audio Interfaces work just fine with the iPad Pro and USB:
SoundCraft 12MTK Mixer (multi-channel)
FocusRite Scarlett 18i8 with Scarlett OctaPre (multi-channel)
Novation AudioHub2x4
DigiTone shows up as an Audio Interface
Maschine+, OctaTrack, MicroFreak, Toraiz As-1 and Minilogue all show up as midi devices over USB.
The iconnectivity Mio allows the OT to communicate Midi over USB in the setup.
The Apple Camera Connection Kit makes it all accessible even over a USB Hub. If we could get Aggregated devices on iOS that would be amazing.
I am quite pleased with how well the iPad connects to my gear as well as to my macOS via IDAM.
It just works.
Thank you Man!
Ben is so right on this. Someone lent me a iPad Pro full of music apps and I found it like cooking with boxing gloves on. Fun, but WAY too hard to make anything.
Great video. Drambo did it for me too. I didn’t really take iPad seriously until Drambo arrived, but now I probably use the iPad more than I use my hardware.
love your patreon members, thanks for sharing :)
Love your videos! They're so well made!
I agree
Agreed almost 40mins too! 😮
Soyan Osman, wow now two TH-camrs I have subscribed to!!!
I got an ipad 7 for music production recentrly and I connected to digitakt for midi and as audio output and its been phenomenal man, so many synth apps for a few dollars, not recorded anything yet but Ill try soon, happy new year man and thanks for your videos and sincerity
I have an 2018 iPad pro and connected it to Motu M2 and connects with no problems, so hearing all the issue you have was a real surprise. Must have got lucky with the audio interface I got.
Motu M2 works also fine for me on an iPad Pro 2020 and also brings old school midi connectors. Add an icy box usb c hub and you have power supply during longer sessions.
Thank you for this video. I am an ipad “musician” and love the workflow and as you say, meditative and explorative way of working. For making experimental music, particularly sample based experimental music, the iPad is fantastic
Nice selection. I’ve been 100% iPad for a few years now. Agree is far from painless though. Look forward to your Endlesss vid. Has definitely been a huge factor in turning music making into an enjoyment again
I bought an iPad specifically for music production, spent LOADS of money on apps, hated the whole experience and gave up on the idea. At least I have an iPad which is useful...
Until apple decides it is not :')
Same - now I got an fancy eReader / fapping / youtube device.
@@_DRMR_ Yeah, Apple upgrade the software way too frquently and backward compatability goes as fast as it arrives.
is though? Is the iPad really useful? I suppose it has some uses if you have no other computer with internet capabilities
@@nickmagrick7702 My mom is totally happy with her iPad and I'm glad I don't have to give any support for it :D
I guess she is the main target audience though.
I have never come across this channel.. The first 12-15 minutes was the clearest most exact explanation of everything awesome and wrong with the iPad. Anyone thinking this is a great device for any kind of production (not just music) should check out this video.
A lot of those thrown together demos were pretty great too. Thanks!
According to Madlib, he made Bandana on his iPad. He didn't specify what app tho
Garageband
Thought I was on Jakob Haq's channel for a minute there.
It's interesting that in many of the songs you showed you sound a lot like BOC. dope!
Orange!
Blue Oyster Cult still has a fan base then...
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Great overview, shows well where the iPad sits for music reation in 2021. At 29:30 you point out that currently its best when you're "trying to have fun with audio" its also great for teaching too!
I like that idea: “Fun”. Quite the concept. Thanks
I totally agree. The best bet for me was to use an apple headphone dongle for iPad audio out and Bluetooth device for midi in out. I use a PUC+ for the latter and it’s worked well consistently for years. 👍
How do you only have 55k subscribers? Phenomenal content, subscribed and notifications on.
OMG Benn! I had no idea you have a TH-cam channel. We exchanged some emails back in 2008 about a few things. I dismantled my music studio when I moved to Chicago in 2010 and recently have had to the itch to get back into it… Came across this video while debating “iPad Pro vs MacBook” in my mind. Thanks for the content! Keep it up.
So what I've found with the USB-C iPad Pros/Airs in our hire stock is that not all USB-C adapter doodads are created equal, and the quality of the class-compliant device implementation *really* varies between manufacturers.
We've had best success with the Belkin and CalDigit USB-C docks (they give you ethernet, too, for network MIDI) and audio interfaces from Steinberg, Audient, RME, and MOTU.
Focusrite's CC driver is really unreliable, and some of the USB-C adapters are less than stellar too.
I guess I’ve always differentiated between things I do in iPad or with hardware. I still release them as the same project, but one is entirely in the iPad, and the other isn’t. Great video as always!
Former Apple engineer here. Tell Apple about it with the feedback app, ESPECIALLY when using pre-release versions of iOS. They don't assign anyone to watch TH-cam videos about people complaining. Bugs are prioritized by two main criteria, which are the severity of the bug (data loss is the worst), and the number of users affected.
Rme boxes works great with iPad CC mode, totalmix and totalmix remote also.
Love the way you explained directly to the point
Excellent vid covering soooooo many items of interest!
Hi Ben. I’m viewing this view almost 2 years since you released it and was intrigued to learn more about the Sensel Morph, only to learn that it’s been discontinued. 😂 The constant change in tech is crazy.
Everything from 26m to 28m was incredible beautiful. Gonna try to replicate that, and hopefully learn a lot chasing that sound.
This is exactly what I've been thinking about recently! I was considering buying a second hand iPad to test these iOS exclusives as well as use it as sketchbook for my graphic design doodles. Also reading or goofing around with sound design before sleep seems a lot more productive than watching Twitch 😁 I am bit concerned about the connectivity... and I don't know anymore. I would like to expand my hardware setup too and the budget is tight lately.
Anyways, great video Ben. Take care!
Nice video! I have an old 16gb iPad 2 that can hardly run anything, but I've coaxed it into being my additional screen for flipping through manuals in the studio, and i have a copy of djay 2 on there for djing because it can play music from Spotify (sometimes, if I can get the wifi to work) and that's been great for busting out at parties when people keep disconnecting a hot aux cord
I found a nice use for my Ipad as a DAW controller be it Studio One or Logic/Mainstage. Excellent when recording with the band in the rehearsalstudio. Mind you I use a WiFi connection so I have no problems(unless it sometimes decide not to connect to the WiFi network😒 just another great Apple feature🤣). Great video Benn👍
Great job, dude!
Hi Benn,
I’m not sure if you were aware, but if you own a Zoom H1 Handy recorder, you can use it as audio interface for iOS. Depending on the firmware of your Zoom recorder, you may need to download a driver from the Zoom website. This was at least true as of 2019.
Being a music/sound guy, many of us have a Zoom recorder around. Pretty compact solution.
Great video!
I wonder if it works with Zoom digital mixers as I own one (L-8).
@@Philodrone The annoying answer is "some of them."
I didn’t know about some of these apps and I’m about to now bankrupt myself on iPad apps😂 Awesome video, and totally true about the connectivity issues. I think we all share a love hate relationship with Apple at this point, thanks for sharing Benn🤞🏼
I’ve bought Steinberg UR22 mkii some time ago. Works just fine with first Ipad pro and Ipad 2020 pro as well. Had to buy new camera connection kit with USBC though.
I love using a iPad for music, it is not the only way I do it, but they have some really cool noisemakers, and decent DAW software. I guess I have had better luck than some.
Thanks for giving me a justification to buy a bigger iPad. Sometimes "Doodling" can be better than therapy. The Sensel looks like a fun toy too.
You make it so easy to respect you and your opinions even when I disagree with you lol. You just make great points while being funny and also clarifying what is subjective and objective. Your just cool level headed dude.
Brilliant, thank you so much! In the first part you said in so much nicer words what I usually say when comes to the frustrations with iOS music making. I also like the second part very much, you talked about many apps I use and like very much (slight bias detected? ... :) ). Subscribed.
Maybe I was lucky with my audio interfaces, as they work fine with my usb-c ipad pro 2018. All of them are Zoom, UAC-8, L-20 and H6. Also my midi interface, Blokas Midihub works fine with the ipad pro, even with a cheap non-apple usb-c to 4xusb-a hub.
Good video, really liked what you said in the bit about the bad. Really makes me think about my current interface and what to do when I upgrade to a newer model. Reverb tip: Stellr
Lmao the dog was amazing man so chill lol
On point. People often ask me about getting into music but don't have the budget for hardware, and I wish I could say I just love all the awesome apps on iPad without also mentioning how full of crap Apple are.
Really great to see you highlight some of the finer apps on the iPadOS for making music. I love that you wrapped up with Drambo because this app really has brought the iPad to a whole new level which i love using almost every day. Be sure to reach out to Beepstreet. I’m going to ping him to make him aware of this video.
Keep up the great work sir 👊🏼™️
Another good video. I use an apple camera connection kit and have no problems until now with 4 different audio interfaces, 2 midi interfaces and the elektron digitakt as audio interface. Seems i‘m lucky to have compatible hardware right from beginning. To use the iPad in comparison to a daw like bitwig, it seems that in every setup I tried is a tiny bit missing... but that‘s part of the creative process. I was never into apple stuff, but making music on an iPad is really great and i will not miss it.
Korg and Moog make apps with both powerful sound capabilities and overpowering prices.
Absolutely brilliant! We probably all have closets or basements or second houses full of obsolete gear that would work perfectly well… if only it hadn’t been deliberately abandoned by Apple or Microsoft. Kind of like how I still need to buy replacement LED light bulbs.
BTW your OCTATRACK will now appear in iOS FILES as a viable folder when connected thru USB. So the iPad becomes a great sample creation workshop with a quick and easy way to transfer files to some real hardware.
oooh thats a good one.
Top Man, Great Videos!
Coincidentally I was researching this subject yesterday. As usual: Google sh!t-sprays ya with stores and useless click bait "reviews". So, happy to find this video. I own an iPhone and am too familiar with Apple BS. Surly the file system alone has made people commit war crimes. Perhaps if Apple were 1% less greedy they could’ve made musicals 100% happier.
Still, any sort of deeper production looks absolutely horrendously frustrating. Works for noodles and great for drawing.
Once upon a time Apple did care about music production. Right after they bought out EMagic they used some former EMagic employees as liaisons to the Pro Audio world and tried to get feedback from top composers for Logic, they worked hard at trying to interest pro's in now discontinued tech like the XServe RAID and then they had the initial Apogee partnership which felt like a sort of Steinberg/Yamaha type deal.
Then Logic dropped in price from $999 to $499 and they cut those jobs and stopped looking for feedback from artists. Then the price dropped to $299 then $199 and now you know the rest.
@@stever3788 yeah, it’s a sad really. And most likely propelled by one-track minded $hareholders, as creative as pointed spades - regarding arts as hobbies. I remember pro studios running Apple computers + Apogee with smooth sailing. Appalling to hear them f' them over - rendering users investments useless in the process. Incredibly arrogant. Apple - such a love hate relationship. Love the apps - hate the greedy business cunts.
Glad you made this because I was just trying to figure out why my interface wouldn’t work with my ipad and at least now I know it’s not me.
damnit benn every time you put out a new video I have to put everything on hold for 40 minutes while i absorb the awesome content
I dig that dark doggy dub! 🔉🔉🐶🔊🔊
Lol! Just the video I needed to see. Have been trying many adapters trying to get headphones to work, and I guess its not just me 😂
I felt like a kid in a toy/candy store .man it feels good !
LF Saw wave to amp envelop modulation on that clap into highpass filter with a little resonance to make that pop
As a dedicated Mac user I agree with you 100%.
Apple doesn't care about anything beyond photos of lunch and some sort of messenger.
My Line6 device didn't work for a year while we waited for Apple to fix their driver in iOS13...
Tascam Celesonic + Auria Pro + last year’s budget ipad. So far so good! Down the rabbit hole. Mostly to use as a multitrack rehearsal recording option.
This video was really good! It was so smooth and flows really nicely! Probably your best video yet! (Disregarding the fantastic info)
Yes I noticed that too.
Staffpad (2021 update with 3rd party libraries) is brilliant. Great for composing quickly with sumptuous, emotional sounds. 🙂
“Existentialism” is that also available as a VST or is it existential only available as a crisis?
You left out GarageBand, it has a sampler to add your own sounds
You'll have 200k subs by the end of the year, mark my words
Yeah! Also just got a 12.9 iPad Pro for Drambo. It seems to be the thing I've been missing as the main brain for fun and interesting electronic jams. An actual game changer! Once it gets multi audio I/O support and recording it'll be amazing. That said, I'd still output stems and mix a final track in a daw on the laptop.
Great video! I bought an iPad pro with huge ambitions for music making apps... it became my 5-year old's Netflix device... I gotta check out some of those apps! Also, I still have the OG MIDIsport... didn't expect to see that in a YT video in 2021!
😂
I think it’s a great tool for sparking out ideas, if needed it could be pushed into making something decent. There’s a bunch of tools as used here plus full fledged daws. But It can be frustrating for sure and that’s why it can only get with your music where you want it on a computer. Amazing video as always Benn!!
My iPad Pro 2018 works with my focusrite scarlett 4i4 also!
oh man, when you pulled out the midisport... I have two. They are, as you know, not class compliant. M-Audio is not going to write new drivers for the mac, so I have to stay with an old OS and old Logic for now. Great dog jam. Made my night.
Amazing video! I’ve been really happy with my iPad for music exclusively (and ok some games). I don’t use it as a daw though. Just a synth and drum machine substitute. It’s probably saved me thousands of dollars on hardware and vsts. I never bothered with recording sound or interfaces which sounds like a pain. I was thinking of looking up interfaces for more outs but you’ve convince me that’s a bad idea.
Great video thanks. The Apple rant was worth the watch on its own. I love apple products but all of your points are absolutely spot on. Lunch break over though so I’m subscribed and will finish the rest of it later (just got to troublemaker). Cheers. Lee
Hi to Lucy. I love flip btw
I’m still using that midi interface! It’s rock solid. Along with my Kenton spin doctor. Stuff used to be built like tanks!
I would like to see a more in depth discussion on how to organize and stack your gear. What different stand options there are, price points, tricks and tips and such. There's short videos here and there but not one extensive one that kind of explains what my options are. I've been writing on DAW's for about 17 years now and I recently started going DAWless with hardware and I'm struggling to find the best way to organize and stack all of my newer gear
I love making music on my iPad, and these days it's all I use - although I only have me to please!
I respect entirely your assertions regarding the frustrations of trying to get hardware working with iOS devices. Quite a few people have been caught out. I've been making music exclusively on the iPad since 2010, and I've seen the technology take huge leaps forward. The iPad I use is the last generation iPad Pro to have the headphone socket (2018 model), and it works great (touch wood) with the Komplete Audio 6. So far I've managed to avoid the disasters you described.
One aspect that you don't touch upon in your video is that the iPad represents a complete and self contained music production tool. You can make great, professional quality music without any audio interface, just using the internal apps. In particular, the advent of the touch instrument changed everything for me. In many ways a keyboard on screen is much more versatile than a real keyboard, allowing all kinds of customisation options that hardware just cannot match.
I haven't used a desktop for music making in over a decade now, and I'd never go back!
The jam you made in AUM was simply awesome
I guess I was lucky. My ipad 4th Gen still works with the Alesis I/O dock. I Recently bought an iPad pro and a Behrin**r U-Phoria 202HD and it works just fine (for now!). I love having a studio within a studio and the difference the very creative iPad apps can bring to your workflow can often be inspiring - Borderlands is absolutely incredible. I could never rely on *just* an iPad but I use it often in projects with the Sensel or Roli whilst kicking back on the couch away from the main studio.
Hi Benn, just discovered your channel. Love your work and your dedication. I use 2 quite old iPads for music. I don't like using the charging port for anything but charging as both devices turn their noses up whenever I plug in a controller using the camera kit. Instead I use an iRig dongle plugged into the headphone socket. This allows me to output a stereo signal while also feeding audio to apps for processing. I only use bluetooth for sending midi data, NOT audio. Latency is not an issue at all. I use the Korg NanoKey and NanoStudio to send bluetooth midi to my main apps - Koala Sampler, Garageband and Korg Gadget. Soon I will incorporate the cool NMSVE by ThisIsNoise for more bluetooth midi control. Now I never have issues with non-compliant interfaces, latency or battery drain. My advice to lovers of iPad apps: get an old iPad with a phones socket, get an old iRig (1st gen is best) and use the phones socket for both input and output. The TRRS 3.5 plug enables input and output through the iRig. And start using bluetooth midi - it works like a charm.
After you Hydrasynth vid I bought an iPad just for Fugue Machine - even with just one play head, what else can give such an interactive sequencer where you can "see" the melody and quickly change notes without using a mouse, or turning a knob and hoping to hit the right note? (This is a genuine question, if I get a positive answer, my iPad is on ebay tomorrow.) My experience is exactly as you say in the first part of this vid.
I have a Mac and that is only because there are a couple of plugins I use that only work with OSX (or Windows which I hate even more), otherwise I would be running Bitwig in Linux, no question.
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Had to give you a thumbs up for Lucy’s jam alone!
Hi Ben, great video (as always). Finally someone sharing true thoughts about touch devices (be it an iPad only, but hey, better than nothing :)). Where/how can I get in touch with you regarding a new vst plugin I just finished that I would like you to try for yourself since I am pretty sure it will be something right up your alley and immensely speeding up your workflow working with midi. Cheers!
Also thanks for making a Patreon. Joined it
So I have the same 2020 12.9" iPad you were discussing in the class compliance section and also have a couple of USB audio interfaces. Initially I had the Behringer umc404hd, which was one you showed as not working, but it did work for me. Currently I have an umc1820 and a focusrite 18i20. Both work as well. However, I have only every used any of these devices while plugged into a powered USB-C hub. I wonder if the root cause of many of these interfaces not working is power delivery? I also had issues with my hub recognizing devices with the stock 20w power adapter and had to purchase a beefier one.
I bought USB C to USB A cable and works with no hub on a range of devices. $6 on amazon.
I have a Focusrite interface and it works I have an LaunchPad pro and Mini mk3 and they both work! No Problems! I have been doing this for years!