Schumann: Das Paradies und die Peri ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Philippe Herreweghe

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  • @magiccarpetmusic5977
    @magiccarpetmusic5977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    One of my most treasured pieces of music. Incomprehensible to me how this masterpiece - possibly the finest music Schumann ever wrote - is so unknown and unappreciated. The story is very powerful emotionally, and the music is simply magnificent. It brings tears to my eyes every time I hear it. WOW! Perhaps in our age, people have become just too jaded and satiated with materialism to grasp its deep spiritual currents. This performance is really off the hook: perfect. Robert is with the angels himself just for writing this, if for nothing else.

    • @harryhagan5937
      @harryhagan5937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're right: way too jaded. The noisy crap culture. I'm sorry to say I know nothing of this work, but I love Robert Schumann, via Jan Swafford's excellent bio of Brahms. Such a profoundly sad figure. I love that he wept all night on learning of Schubert's death. Who wouldn't have, though? The sensibilities of 19th Century people were far more intense than ours today, I think.

    • @vilhelmhammershoi3871
      @vilhelmhammershoi3871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn't agree with you more! One of Schmann's finest pieces!!!

  • @magiccarpetmusic5977
    @magiccarpetmusic5977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    ABSOLUTELY SUPERB MUSIC AND PERFORMANCE. One for the ages, one for Paradise.

  • @marielouisebircher3443
    @marielouisebircher3443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sehnsucht und Traurigkeit wunderbar interpretiert

  • @HelenaWilliams8696
    @HelenaWilliams8696 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Schumann's 'The Paradise and the Peri' is exquisitely joyful to listen. Phenomenal solo singers and outstanding choral group, they are pure beauty in vocal expression. This Oratorio is so graceful, spellbinding musical melody and soothing 'Fantasy' to the spirit.
    Awesome performance!

    • @quinnwill4520
      @quinnwill4520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @arthurjamal4948
      @arthurjamal4948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @quinnwill4520
      @quinnwill4520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @arthurjamal4948
      @arthurjamal4948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Quinn Will you are welcome :)

  • @TimondeNood
    @TimondeNood 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you Schumann, thank you Philippe Herreweghe and thank you all the performers for this wonderful experience!

  • @HelenaWilliams8696
    @HelenaWilliams8696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Schumann's 'The Paradise and the Peri' is exquisitely joyful to listen. Phenomenal solo singers and outstanding choral group, they are pure beauty in vocal expression. This Oratorio is so graceful, spellbinding musical melody and soothing 'Fantasy' to the spirit.
    Awesome performance! (2 years ago)

  • @valeriofarinelli4340
    @valeriofarinelli4340 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love Robert Schumann. A phantastic man.

  • @Lurcanio1
    @Lurcanio1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Eine großartige Aufführung dieses Meisterwerks! Herausragende Sänger!

  • @knuthaakenaasen1880
    @knuthaakenaasen1880 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Pure beauty! Aside with the same composers Scenes from Goethes Faust this piece is among the works I would take with me to a desolate island.

  • @christiaandhooghe
    @christiaandhooghe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Such a beautiful mezzo-soprano. Wonderful!
    Great piece of music!

    • @susanfilip2286
      @susanfilip2286 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      really not. inglotta and bad high notes: the best on palce is Julia Kleiter- Oh wait ! Did you mean her ? I bet.

  • @rocio9427
    @rocio9427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Schumann is a genius

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The beauty of this melody and her and his singing voices is irreplaceable , and paramount

  • @lungelokhuzwayo5669
    @lungelokhuzwayo5669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is such beautiful music. 🥂

  • @susanfilip2286
    @susanfilip2286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brava Julia Kleiter! wonderful singer.

  • @HelenaWilliams8696
    @HelenaWilliams8696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    'Das Paradies und die Peri' is Schumann's colossal musical achievement. It is a secular oratorio for soloists, choir, and orchestra. This work - perhaps more than any other - established Schumann's international reputation.
    The composer creates a musical drama focus around the Persian Mythological story of the Peri. The Peri a creature from Persian mythology, is the focus of the tale, having been expelled from Paradise and trying to regain entrance by giving the gift that is most dear to heaven. Eventually, the peri is admitted after bringing a tear from the cheek of a repentant old sinner who has seen a child praying. (Wikipedia.) In the drama, under the influence of Persian literature, Thomas Moore poetic work indicates the conflict between good and evil prevalent in Persian mythology. The chorus and the soloist achieved the story in the play in pristine and grandiose voices. Mr Klaus Peter Kraa establishes Schumann as a composer of great dramatic choral works. The soloist, the choir, the orchestra and the conductor give a divinely inspire rendition! Thank you for sharing a magnificent literary work combined in a lovely romantic musical theme. In addition, the recording is supreme.

    • @waynehasch5978
      @waynehasch5978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was living in Berlin in the USArmy circa 1976 in the old SS Academy. Schuman and Dvorak were my favorites. I was drunk with Port wine most of the time but I was still the best at what I did in my service.Listening to this for the first time in 40 years. However I have been to HEA VEN thanks to Lux Aeterna by Mortem Lauredsen.

  • @николайчуть-в1с
    @николайчуть-в1с 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Heavenly work.
    Choir, solists, orchestra - BRAVO!

    • @magiccarpetmusic2449
      @magiccarpetmusic2449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with you fully. I was shocked when i found this extraordinarily magnificent music. It's unique both in Schumann's catalog and in Western music. and unfortunate it's not performed MUCH more often. I think there's a bit of a bias against him; or a mindset that Schumann is not one of the truly major composers. This piece certainly disproves that, and thus upsets some of those conventions of classical music.

  • @jedavilav1
    @jedavilav1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ¡Bella versión del hermoso oratorio profano de Schuman!

    • @jesusmariagarciaarejula9032
      @jesusmariagarciaarejula9032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ¿Profano? En absoluto, no puede ser más religioso. Eso sí, no es religión cristiana sino musulmana con unas gotas de zoroastrismo pero no por eso menos religioso.

  • @blaubar
    @blaubar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the most beautyful moments in musical history: 1:22:22

  • @chriswilson6494
    @chriswilson6494 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The most tragic of all composers - but the most passionate - to understand the music - you must know the man and how he suffered.

    • @charlessiewerdt2832
      @charlessiewerdt2832 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Other tragic great composers= SCHUBERT, TCHAIKOWSKY, SMETANA, MAHLER, WEBERN.

    • @memattia3198
      @memattia3198 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@charlessiewerdt2832Beethoven was deaf

  • @ericksantana1710
    @ericksantana1710 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    “O heil’ge Tränen inn’ger Reue” 1:16:52
    I learned to love this piece by this excerpt. I really do not know the meaning of this yet, but sound like angels singing inside me, one of the deepest sounds I have ever heard.
    "O heil'ge Tränen inn'ger Reue,
    In eurer sanften Sühnungsflut
    Die einzige, die erste neue
    Schuldlose Lust für Schuld'ge ruht!"

    • @pjkhunold
      @pjkhunold 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here is the English original, »Lalla Rookh«
      by Thomas Moore
      www.bartleby.com/library/poem/3665.html

    • @crawyler
      @crawyler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      C'est effectivement un moment d'une extrême beauté, larmes aux yeux garanties, malgré ou grâce à mes presque 78 ans ! Mais l'œuvre entière est un chef-d'œuvre, méconnu hélas !

  • @papagen00
    @papagen00 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Los Angeles Philharmonic performed it in June-2018.
    An absolute Masterpiece, Completely Neglected.

  • @Vazhaspa
    @Vazhaspa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Under the influence of Persian literature, Th. Moore’s composed book-length poem Lalla Rookh (1817) [Persian: Tulip-face].
    In the second tale, “Paradise and the Peri,” [Persian: Pardis and fairy] the Peri, as a fallen angel seeking entry into heaven, must perform a good deed, which she does by saving a boy from a pederast.
    Using Moore’s poem as the basis, the German composer R. Schumann (1810-1856) composed an oratorio for soloist, choir, and orchestra entitled Das Paradies und die Peri ‘The Paradise and the Peri,’ which he considered to be his “most important work in every sense of the word”

    • @harryhagan5937
      @harryhagan5937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for this illumination! I'll read more about it.

  • @zinam5795
    @zinam5795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks VERY MUCH !

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Literarisch paradiesische Aufführung dieses großartigen Meisterwerks mit himmlischen Stimmen aller Solisten, seidigen Töne aller Streicher und milden Töne aller Holzbläser. Die perfekt synchronisierten Stimmen des Chors und die stabile Leitung vom genialen Dirigenten sind auch bemerkenswert. Danke fürs rechtzeitige Hochladen mit der höchsten Tonqualität!

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    An awesome work!

  • @thiagoandrade8159
    @thiagoandrade8159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo!

  • @benjamincuevaseninde
    @benjamincuevaseninde 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    -- Grandiose & éloquente représentation. --

  • @quasimodo8600
    @quasimodo8600 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Großartig.

  • @javierbernardodelgado7766
    @javierbernardodelgado7766 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bellísima música, magnífica interpretación.

  • @Tomsfilipsons
    @Tomsfilipsons 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    29:15 I think a certain big-headed buddy of Schumann's might've been listening to this part very closely...

  • @Clivejvaughan
    @Clivejvaughan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely, thanks !

  • @luisalfredoso1754
    @luisalfredoso1754 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    exellente muy bonyta!!!!!!!!

  • @SandWolf_
    @SandWolf_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No.8 at 17:08 is the best part of this oratorio

    • @manueljoseblancamolinos8582
      @manueljoseblancamolinos8582 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eso es también lo que Tchaikovsky pensaba. Creo que el pasaje para coro solo al final del tercer movimiento de la cantata Oda a la Alegría de Tchaikovsky está influido por el coro de Schumann.
      th-cam.com/video/78KBmtnkJ5w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=J5icr28ZxUoVaPHg

  • @albertonaidich686
    @albertonaidich686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Si al menos estaria subtitulada en ESPAÑOL se podria captar el espiritu de la obra.

  • @jordianavega6643
    @jordianavega6643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Un genio schumann pero hay que entender su vida de sufriminto para ver sus composiciones dificiles de interpretar

  • @cdtj1265
    @cdtj1265 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Herrlich!

  • @Senzenfrenz
    @Senzenfrenz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Schade "Schlaf nun und ruhe in Träumen..." ist am Anfang leider schief gegangen. Ansonsten einfach tolles Orchester,Chor und Solisten

  • @news0949
    @news0949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Je vous trouve un peu léger dans ce domaine vos amis autrichien donne de la voix à ce Schumann 🤧

  • @romkashveps6897
    @romkashveps6897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    53:28

  • @romkashveps6897
    @romkashveps6897 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    -44:50

  • @sterriedaanie7218
    @sterriedaanie7218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The performance is superb, I just dislike the exaggerated vibrato of tenor Maximilian Schmitt, what a shame.

  • @jesusmariagarciaarejula9032
    @jesusmariagarciaarejula9032 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a difference with the version led by Hartmut Haenchen! Herreweghe's tempi are completely out of order, too fast here, too slow there, breaking the fluency of the piece. Even the stunning Julia Kleiter can't overcome it.

  • @JPMHof
    @JPMHof 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mozart

    • @petermerelis
      @petermerelis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      so I'm not the only one who hears Wolfgang in this...

    • @jessesouzapianist
      @jessesouzapianist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Schumann

    • @susanfilip2286
      @susanfilip2286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jessesouzapianist and a bit Mendelssohn...but no Mozart.

    • @thomaslangner8894
      @thomaslangner8894 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, absolutely not. Mendelssohn and Bach of course (somehow Bach is everywhere). This is so much better than Mozart.

  • @albertoaguiardacruz7047
    @albertoaguiardacruz7047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    APESAR DESTE ORATÓRIO PROFANO POSSUIR TRECHOS DE BELAS MÚSICAS, SCHUMANN NÃO CONVENCE COMO COMPOSITOR DE MÚSICA DE OBRAS PARA SOLISTAS E CORAL. SEUS TALENTOS SÃO MAIS BEM SUCEDIDOS COMO COMPOSITOR DE OBRAS PARA PIANO, SUAS QUATRO SINFONIAS, OS CONCERTOS PARA PIANO, CONCERTO PARA VIOLONCELO E SEUS LIEDERS. SUA MÚSICA SACRA É POBRE.

    • @phiphi2048
      @phiphi2048 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Non

  • @janisauzins4103
    @janisauzins4103 ปีที่แล้ว

    Schumann's vast sense of self-importance was inversely proportional to his complete lack of humor

    • @phiphi2048
      @phiphi2048 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ?

  • @bubffm
    @bubffm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heereweghe und das Collegium Vocale Ghent sind über jeden Zweifel erhaben. Schumann und sein problematisches "Oratorium" eher nicht. Das Libretto von Thomas Moore ist derart absurd, dass dieses Stück aus gutem Grund in der Versenkung verschwunden ist. Musikalisch oder von der thematischen Entwicklung her ist das eher Mittelmass. Manches ist ganz schön, anderes schrecklich banal. Kein Wunder das Mendelssohn mit seinen Oratorien überall vertreten ist und nicht Schumann. Nun haben wir diesen "Problemfall" mal in einer beispielhaften Aufführung gehört. Die nächsten zwanzig Jahre darf es dann gern wieder im Archiv verstauben.

    • @bubffm
      @bubffm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wenn's im Betsaal bessere Oratorien gibt, bin ich da definitiv fröhlicher.

    • @bubffm
      @bubffm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wenn's im Betsaal bessere Oratorien gibt, bin ich da definitiv fröhlicher.

    • @dnfm6228
      @dnfm6228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Unglaublich wie wenig ästehtischen Musikverstand manchen Menschen eigen ist. Mir tut es sehr leid für sie, dass sie dieses Werk anscheinend nicht im Ansatz verstehen

    • @phiphi2048
      @phiphi2048 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Non

  • @stevepillemann9373
    @stevepillemann9373 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    voll die Scheisse!

  • @vilhelmhammershoi3871
    @vilhelmhammershoi3871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sadly.... Herreweghe does a cold reading of this thick, velvety and profound score! alas... the Frankfurt audience look as bored as I am hearing this.