German orchestras are the best on this planet, the late Celibidache always talked about ¨der deutsche Klang¨what means the German sound,and he was right, German orchestras have this deep,colourful and passionate sound.and Frankfurt orchestra is no exception,it's so satisfying to listen to them.
..interesante observación, , también yo estoy de acuerdo que los alemanes tienen varias excelentes orquestas. Creo que el nivel técnico de los músico tanto de cuerda como de viento es muy parejo y esto unido a la particular disciplina de los germanos da como resultado orquestas de un alto nivel tanto en Alemania como en Austria.
Mein lieber Mzsikfreund als das Orchester noch sinfonieirchester des Hessischen Rundfunks Hüs und im alten Studio produziere für he kam der große Rudolf kempe nahm dvorak 8 und Brahms op 77 auf .Hat Archipel dem Hr Archiv entwendet,supi!die Archive lassen diese Schätze lieber verstauben außer wdr der Macht Kopien.
"concessions to sentimentalism" ........ thank you for the "sentimentalists " you are insulting . I thought that a "sentiment" was something human .... And you , what are you , some serial killer , a nazi , a stalinian communist ? Who never feels a "sentiment" ... ? I hope never to have to meet somebody like you .
@@thierryjung5953 Lol say that to Brahms, if you research it that’s how he thought music should be so an overly sentimental interpretation could be considered incorrect to the composers vision
Ein wahre Meisterleistung, sowohl von Seiten des Orchesters, als auch von Brahms persönlich...durfte es erst letzte live mit den Hamburger Symphonikern erleben...Gänsehaut pur
I have attended the concert in which they played a program that was purely dedicated to Brahms. At that time, Paavo Järvi was the chief conductor, and to me it was most astonishing how flexible the hr-Sinfonieorchester is to play this music in so different ways under Järvi on the one hand and Herreweghe on the other, while both are much admired conductors from my perspective. In this recording, the orchester plays in a brilliant, pure and transparent style which was and still is a pleasure to listen to. You may have endless discussions about Herreweghe's way of reading Brahms being too fast or too chamber music style - I just remind all who feel like this that there is a correspondence between Brahms and his friend Joseph Joachim - violinist and conductor - where Brahms complains in a friendly manner that Joachim is performing his symphonies "too fast". This shows us that these discussions are not new, and Brahms certainly considered Joachim one of the best interprets of his music ...
eriol2002 Yes and Brahms was right! The last movement, a rondo, sounds rushed and without any sense of a justification for taking it too fast. All little details, especially in the beautiful Brahms writing for woodwind is lost, hurled to the four corners of the world without ever being able to be savoured by the listener. The brass chorale at the end of the movement sounds 'brushed aside' so when the Schumann quote follows, it does not have the pathos and feeling of nostalgia (remembrance) that Brahms - intentionally - meant it to have as it appears AF the end of the first movement, too. (It is a quote from the first movement of Schumann's Third Symphony, 'The Rhenish'). If Herrewege had tried this with a less experienced orchestra, say an amateur orchestra, it would have fallen apart at the seams. It is only the superb musicality of the orchestra and their technical skill that stops it from falling apart. When a conductor relies on an orchestra like that, it doesn't say much for his (or her) ability or craftsman(woman)ship.
Mein absolutes Lieblingsorchester! Einfach wunderbar, da kann man auch mal zwischendurch applaudieren (auch wenn ich persönlich kein Fan davon bin, eine Symphonie zu unterbrechen) ich bin begeistert! Danke!
I. Allegro con brio 00:00 II. Andante ∙ 12:28 III. Poco Allegretto 20:24 IV. Allegro 26:42 hr-Sinfonieorchester (Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra) ∙ Philippe Herreweghe, Dirigent ∙
Remarkable performance. The woodwinds section is phenomenal. The first clarinetist solos in the first movement are played with such a honeyed tone. And the first flute and oboe are just as phenomenal. Finally, I, too, am impressed by the rather muscular and unsentimental approach to Brahms. Thank you hr-Sinfonieorchester!
Brahms harmonious melodic Sinfonie is a lucid definition of sublime notes to the Spirit. Here a myth love story is acting its drama in a poetic beauty of expression heard in the movements.
Leí los comentarios anteriores, discrepo con aquellos que esta ejecución carece de alma. Me parece excelente y en especial el Poco Allegretto está muy bien interpretado. Gracias por compartir esta bella música.
+MashedTubers Well, as a matter of fact i don't need to speak english in here. I just want try to be polite writing in your language. There are a lot of people writing in spanish or german or french or other languages. And I was saying that i really like this rendition, speacially the third movement.
A 3a Sinfonia de Brahms nos oferece um romantismo profundo cheio de sutilezas, é o amor de Brahms cinquentão livre de compromissos, admirando a vida, a natureza, a música. É um obra harmônica, sua melodia é intensa e contínua. Alguns dos mas belos temas da música estão em seus quatro movimentos.
Great Idea that of playing the second theme of the third movement slightly up tempo just as you would with the trio section of a scherzo, it worked to perfection in my opinion, great performance, bravo!!!
I have very much enjoyed your many postings on TH-cam. Could you please tell me the names of the 1st horn and the 1st oboe? I have enjoyed seeing how their handsome faces have changed with time. Your orchestra is surely one of the greatest on this planet!
In fact I sometimes feel guilty: I know the work (here the symphony) ought to be heard, felt and admired in its whole. And I learned early not to clap in between movements, yet I can listen to this movement all by its own.
Got the tempo right which is more than most conductore do. Seems to be lacking in "Woomph" but that is as much to do with how it was recorded as anything. :-) Well done!
Have never heard a recording where the orchestra plays the repeat of the exposition of the 1st movement- exciting! I noticed from this recording how much sophisticated syncopation upon syncopation makes up the 1st movement. Brahms puts in a secret message via the melody: low F-A-high F, meaning “frei aber froh,” “free (from being in a relationship) but happy.” This in contrast with “frei aber einsam” (free but lonely).
The camera people desperately need guidance to show instruments with solo/leading sections of the music. Very frustrating to watch wind section when violas have solo. Help
EXCELENTE FLAUTISTA CLARA DE LA CALLE.Y BUENA MOZA QUE NO ES POCO. LA OI TAMBIEN EN LA OBRA DE MENDELSHON SUENIO DE UNA NOCHE DE VERANO..JUST AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!
j'ai noté pour les mouvements et pour la flûtiste :) je me régale aujourd'hui !j'attends le poco allegretto recommandé.j'aimerais savoir s'il y a des silences entre les mouvements ou est ce des pauses pour récupérer ?le tuba avant 15.28 est un bon premice à la prestation de la flûtiste .je ne suis que mélomane avec peu de bases vraiment :)poco allegretto est connu et reconnu :)ils ne perdent pas de temps à changer de mouvements ! c'est magnifique !!!!!
Good tempo and intertia off the top but the bottom end and lack of the horn section to emote... kind of hurt more from the recording I guess? Anyway Good tempo!
The tempo of the fourth movement is too fast.Of course, for me.For this symphony, Clara Schuman suggests a clear statement in a letter to and from him.Her remark was exactly the same as my own thought.Surprisingly.The final movement finishes as if it disappears. Do not forget it.
Je ne comprends pas ce que Herreweghe essaie de démontrer ni pourquoi (est-ce la raison pour laquelle les spectateurs sont venus l'écouter?), puisque, comme il s'interdit la moindre expressivité dans ce premier mouvement que je suis en train d'essayer d'écouter, c'est bien de démonstration dont il doit s'agir ...
@@julia-hj8rb I own his 1989 recording of the Christmas Oratorio and it's extraordinary but maybe it doesn't count as a dishevelled "conductor's piece". I agree that this orchestra plays very well.
This is certainly the most exciting Brahms Third I've heard, but at the sacrifice of its grandeur, charm, and final peace in its closing pages. What I heard here seemed over-dramatized and graceless, with unusual ideas of accents, balances, and note values by conductor Herreweghe, compromising the symphony's natural flow and import and the great performance of the orchestra. My attention was diverted from the music and onto the conductor's strange view of it. My subjectivity is enhanced by my lack of knowledge perhaps, and this is doubtless a valid conception of the symphony; it's just not mine. I hope to hear Maestro Orozco-Estrada's interpretation of it in the future.
Orchestra, as usual, excellent. Unfortunately, third movement much too fast, the whole inner pain of that miraculous movement got lost. Fourth movement way too fast as well. As in another comment already stated, only thanks to the fantastic musicians it didn't fell apart. Just listen to Christoph Eschenbach and Houston Symphony Orchestra. Wonderful.
Puc dir que m'agrada, perquè és Brahms però la batuta de Herreweghe no ha estat dintre les meves espectatives interpretatives. No aporta gairebé res de nou, una versió de tantes com n'hi ha! Poca intensitat, bastant superficial en les dinàmiques típiques de Brahms...
This is too fast. So fast that it ruined the meaning of some of the slow parts. I don’t understand why everybody wants to rush the music nowadays? Let the music breathe and be expressed. Notice the fourth movement, after the last climax, how it’s so meaningless.... sad.
German orchestras are the best on this planet, the late Celibidache always talked about ¨der deutsche Klang¨what means the German sound,and he was right, German orchestras have this deep,colourful and passionate sound.and Frankfurt orchestra is no exception,it's so satisfying to listen to them.
..interesante observación, , también yo estoy de acuerdo que los alemanes tienen varias excelentes orquestas. Creo que el nivel técnico de los músico tanto de cuerda como de viento es muy parejo y esto unido a la particular disciplina de los germanos da como resultado orquestas de un alto nivel tanto en Alemania como en Austria.
Mein lieber Mzsikfreund als das Orchester noch sinfonieirchester des Hessischen Rundfunks Hüs und im alten Studio produziere für he kam der große Rudolf kempe nahm dvorak 8 und Brahms op 77 auf .Hat Archipel dem Hr Archiv entwendet,supi!die Archive lassen diese Schätze lieber verstauben außer wdr der Macht Kopien.
残り少ない人生の中で、私はこの曲を知らずに死ぬところでした。何という美しさ、優美で繊細な曲に、もっと生きなくてはと思いました。
Dieses Orchester ist eines der besten der Welt, ungeachtet des Dirigenten, der auf das Podium auftritt.
WOW! So buoyant and agile! And it doesn't lose a pinch of depth. Completely masterful. I love this version so much.
I. Allegro con brio 0:30
II. Andante 12:29
III. Poco allegretto 20:26
IV. Allegro 26:43
dzieki ziom
Thanks
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(*´︶`*)♡Thanks!
It's very useful💓💞
Quite enjoyable. I have never before seen seemingly an entire orchestra swaying, rocking their bodies to the music. These players are into Brahms.
Anyone who isn't into Brahms is wrong. 😛
Who wouldn’t be. Surprised how this older. Conductor seems to be pushing the tempo
Absolutely brilliant, without concessions to sentimentalism. And, at the same time, endowed with soul.
+Hugo Olivares The best way to understand Brahms
"concessions to sentimentalism" ........ thank you for the "sentimentalists " you are insulting .
I thought that a "sentiment" was something human ....
And you , what are you , some serial killer , a nazi , a stalinian communist ? Who never feels a "sentiment" ... ?
I hope never to have to meet somebody like you .
@@thierryjung5953 Lol say that to Brahms, if you research it that’s how he thought music should be so an overly sentimental interpretation could be considered incorrect to the composers vision
Ein wahre Meisterleistung, sowohl von Seiten des Orchesters, als auch von Brahms persönlich...durfte es erst letzte live mit den Hamburger Symphonikern erleben...Gänsehaut pur
I have attended the concert in which they played a program that was purely dedicated to Brahms. At that time, Paavo Järvi was the chief conductor, and to me it was most astonishing how flexible the hr-Sinfonieorchester is to play this music in so different ways under Järvi on the one hand and Herreweghe on the other, while both are much admired conductors from my perspective. In this recording, the orchester plays in a brilliant, pure and transparent style which was and still is a pleasure to listen to.
You may have endless discussions about Herreweghe's way of reading Brahms being too fast or too chamber music style - I just remind all who feel like this that there is a correspondence between Brahms and his friend Joseph Joachim - violinist and conductor - where Brahms complains in a friendly manner that Joachim is performing his symphonies "too fast". This shows us that these discussions are not new, and Brahms certainly considered Joachim one of the best interprets of his music ...
eriol2002 Yes and Brahms was right! The last movement, a rondo, sounds rushed and without any sense of a justification for taking it too fast. All little details, especially in the beautiful Brahms writing for woodwind is lost, hurled to the four corners of the world without ever being able to be savoured by the listener. The brass chorale at the end of the movement sounds 'brushed aside' so when the Schumann quote follows, it does not have the pathos and feeling of nostalgia (remembrance) that Brahms - intentionally - meant it to have as it appears AF the end of the first movement, too. (It is a quote from the first movement of Schumann's Third Symphony, 'The Rhenish'). If Herrewege had tried this with a less experienced orchestra, say an amateur orchestra, it would have fallen apart at the seams. It is only the superb musicality of the orchestra and their technical skill that stops it from falling apart. When a conductor relies on an orchestra like that, it doesn't say much for his (or her) ability or craftsman(woman)ship.
Mein absolutes Lieblingsorchester! Einfach wunderbar, da kann man auch mal zwischendurch applaudieren (auch wenn ich persönlich kein Fan davon bin, eine Symphonie zu unterbrechen) ich bin begeistert! Danke!
0:29 1st movement | 8:07 | 10:25 | 11:55 end string | 12:28 2nd movement | 19:59 end string | 20:26 3rd movement | 26:43 4th movement | 28:25 theme preview |
Sounds so natural and without disturbing heaviness...never heard this symphony this way
Great comment! That's because the conductor uses the crescendos marked in the score to perfection. Avoiding such heaviness.
How lovely to slip on my Brahms coat again: warm, comforting, loving - close to tears in the first movement.
I am that way often with Brahms and also Schumann!
I. Allegro con brio 00:00
II. Andante ∙ 12:28
III. Poco Allegretto 20:24
IV. Allegro 26:42
hr-Sinfonieorchester (Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra) ∙
Philippe Herreweghe, Dirigent ∙
THANK YOU
(*´︶`*)♡Thanks!
Prego!
Sanft und sehr schön, wie Kammermusik. Grossartig gespielt und ausgedacht. Weiter machen, bitte!!
Remarkable performance. The woodwinds section is phenomenal. The first clarinetist solos in the first movement are played with such a honeyed tone. And the first flute and oboe are just as phenomenal. Finally, I, too, am impressed by the rather muscular and unsentimental approach to Brahms. Thank you hr-Sinfonieorchester!
Brahms harmonious melodic Sinfonie is a lucid definition of sublime notes to the Spirit. Here a myth love story is acting its drama in a poetic beauty of expression heard in the movements.
32:32 When you forgot your mute but still got that multipurpose bill.
The first movement was so wonderful, I'm surprised how Herrwege was surprised at the spontaneous applause. I would've clapped too!
The golden flute!
Leí los comentarios anteriores, discrepo con aquellos que esta ejecución carece de alma. Me parece excelente y en especial el Poco Allegretto está muy bien interpretado. Gracias por compartir esta bella música.
Please speak English if you want to be understood here.
+MashedTubers how about you stop being rude
+MashedTubers Well, as a matter of fact i don't need to speak english in here. I just want try to be polite writing in your language. There are a lot of people writing in spanish or german or french or other languages. And I was saying that i really like this rendition, speacially the third movement.
Well done; Desy!
Extremely well-performed. Very beautiful.
Какое благородное исполнение! Какие изящные штрихи! Потрясающая интерпретация!
Как изящно изогнут контрафагот! И куда кондуктор так спешит в poco allaghretto? Пойду лучше посмотрю видеокурс сольфеджио.
7:15 Contrabassoon! Feel the ground shake!
Nischt
A 3a Sinfonia de Brahms nos oferece um romantismo profundo cheio de sutilezas, é o amor de Brahms cinquentão livre de compromissos, admirando a vida, a natureza, a música. É um obra harmônica, sua melodia é intensa e contínua. Alguns dos mas belos temas da música estão em seus quatro movimentos.
Esta sempre será a melhor performance da melhor sinfonia de Brahms. Maravilhoso!
Thank you for reining in the vibrato!
Fantastique chapeau bravo l'ensemble des artistes incroyable talent 👏👏👏
Very objective performance with appropriate tempos and without superfluous agogics. I like it.
Crescendos are perfect throughout. Great interpretation.
Esecuzione strepitosa!! Una meraviglia!
Great Idea that of playing the second theme of the third movement slightly up tempo just as you would with the trio section of a scherzo, it worked to perfection in my opinion, great performance, bravo!!!
It's our solo flutist Clara Andrada de la Calle
Wonderfull flute playing.
I have very much enjoyed your many postings on TH-cam. Could you please tell me the names of the 1st horn and the 1st oboe? I have enjoyed seeing how their handsome faces have changed with time. Your orchestra is surely one of the greatest on this planet!
Thanks a lot for your compliments. The 1st horn is Samuel Seidenberg, the 1rst oboe José Luis García Vegara
hr-Sinfonieorchester - Frankfurt Radio Symphony Pretty good for a 'street' performer. he he
My name is also Clara and I'm also playing the flute^^
Dieses Orchester: Immer wieder ein Hochgenuss !!!
Friends, the third movement..can you feel its greatness?
Crazy Duck yes we can!!!
the better
Oh yeees
In fact I sometimes feel guilty: I know the work (here the symphony) ought to be heard, felt and admired in its whole. And I learned early not to clap in between movements, yet I can listen to this movement all by its own.
yes...but I prefer the 2nd make movement!
What a fascinating performance!! Great!
Meine Lieblingsstelle ist im Zweiten Satz, 19:18, der Schluss ist einfach herrlich!
Wunderschön. Vielen Dank!
Got the tempo right which is more than most conductore do. Seems to be lacking in "Woomph" but that is as much to do with how it was recorded as anything. :-) Well done!
wow!
wow!
Absolute Klasse!!!
Gran bell'orchestra!
Sehr objektive Leistung mit angemessenen Tempi und ohne überflüssige Agogik. Das gefällt mir.
Man this reminds me so much of Schuman's Rheinische... I adore both symphonies!
Have never heard a recording where the orchestra plays the repeat of the exposition of the 1st movement- exciting! I noticed from this recording how much sophisticated syncopation upon syncopation makes up the 1st movement. Brahms puts in a secret message via the melody: low F-A-high F, meaning “frei aber froh,” “free (from being in a relationship) but happy.” This in contrast with “frei aber einsam” (free but lonely).
Che meraviglia! Merita l'Olimpo!
1:10 Clarinet Solo (Probespiel)
12:29 Clarinet Solo 2n mov
I don't hear it... maybe at 1:27+?
Double bassoon comes through loud and clear.
Very good feeling for the tempi. Many conductors take this work much too ponderous and teutonic. Brahms preferred lively tempi, not museum tempi.
right! Brahms preferred Carlos Kleiber.
The first movement acquires a dance-feel that is lost at the typical slower tempo.
@@gerbs139 yes, it's similar to Bruno Walter's version! I like this tempo.
Completely agree
Шикарная музыка - местами!
Astounding!!! :-O
That third movement alwais excites me.
The 3th movement!
Gutes Tempo ! Das Wichtigste macht der Dirigent richtig. Den Rest macht das hervorragende Orchester alleine. Ich denke, so war es auch gemeint.
2 mov clarinet good Sound！
I like this video too much !!!
Maravilhosa a Clara Andrada de la Calle! Em todos os aspectos.
GRAN SINFONIA
これまで聞いた中で最も美しいブラームス の第3
ブラヴォー、ヘレヴェッヘ！
So good. (y)
The camera people desperately need guidance to show instruments with solo/leading sections of the music. Very frustrating to watch wind section when violas have solo. Help
totally, my biggest gripe with these videos, just show the whole damned orchestra not closeups needed
I'd gladly watch anything other than the violas. 😋
and the 2 clarinetistes or timpanis? My dears musicians, yours names, is possible? Are my favourites instruments, too.
Like the world of people who change
Renew the strength
18:20 😥😥😥👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Meinem Papa selig 😘
Alto à 5:45?? 😆
EXCELENTE FLAUTISTA CLARA DE LA CALLE.Y BUENA MOZA QUE NO ES POCO. LA OI TAMBIEN EN LA OBRA DE MENDELSHON SUENIO DE UNA NOCHE DE VERANO..JUST AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, the good old rolled up dollar bill mute!
But why bother? That trick doesn't really work. No one in the violin section had a spare mute in their case to lend her? Oy!
I was just going to say something about that. Good eye! I've found it is slightly better than nothing, but not much.
2:45
j'ai noté pour les mouvements et pour la flûtiste :) je me régale aujourd'hui !j'attends le poco allegretto recommandé.j'aimerais savoir s'il y a des silences entre les mouvements ou est ce des pauses pour récupérer ?le tuba avant 15.28 est un bon premice à la prestation de la flûtiste .je ne suis que mélomane avec peu de bases vraiment :)poco allegretto est connu et reconnu :)ils ne perdent pas de temps à changer de mouvements ! c'est magnifique !!!!!
Good tempo and intertia off the top but the bottom end and lack of the horn section to emote... kind of hurt more from the recording I guess? Anyway Good tempo!
Das hr-Sinfonieorchester ist ein Ausnahmeorchester und ich hoffe das Orchester wird nicht dem Sparzwang geopfert!
Just Brahms
No. It had been many other great symphonies like mahler fifth.
20:26
A quien no puede gustarle esto????
20:28
10:18 ヴァイオリンの人何かつけてる…。弱音器かな？
なんか紙幣丸めてくくりつけてるみたいに見える…。
아 좋다
The tempo of the fourth movement is too fast.Of course, for me.For this symphony, Clara Schuman suggests a clear statement in a letter to and from him.Her remark was exactly the same as my own thought.Surprisingly.The final movement finishes as if it disappears. Do not forget it.
Je ne comprends pas ce que Herreweghe essaie de démontrer ni pourquoi (est-ce la raison pour laquelle les spectateurs sont venus l'écouter?), puisque, comme il s'interdit la moindre expressivité dans ce premier mouvement que je suis en train d'essayer d'écouter, c'est bien de démonstration dont il doit s'agir ...
Herreweghe is not a conductor, he is simply horrible. In spite of that the orchestra plays wonderful.
@@julia-hj8rb I own his 1989 recording of the Christmas Oratorio and it's extraordinary but maybe it doesn't count as a dishevelled "conductor's piece". I agree that this orchestra plays very well.
Wow, die machen teilweise WUNDERSCHÖNE Musik
IV MOVEMENT REMEMBER ME HARRY POTTER SOUNDTRACK!
27:25 WOW Star Wars episode 3 lässt Grüssen
20:50 dollar bill mute!Q
This is certainly the most exciting Brahms Third I've heard, but at the sacrifice of its grandeur, charm, and final peace in its closing pages. What I heard here seemed over-dramatized and graceless, with unusual ideas of accents, balances, and note values by conductor Herreweghe, compromising the symphony's natural flow and import and the great performance of the orchestra. My attention was diverted from the music and onto the conductor's strange view of it. My subjectivity is enhanced by my lack of knowledge perhaps, and this is doubtless a valid conception of the symphony; it's just not mine. I hope to hear Maestro Orozco-Estrada's interpretation of it in the future.
EXQUISITE!
Orchestra, as usual, excellent. Unfortunately, third movement much too fast, the whole inner pain of that miraculous movement got lost. Fourth movement way too fast as well. As in another comment already stated, only thanks to the fantastic musicians it didn't fell apart. Just listen to Christoph Eschenbach and Houston Symphony Orchestra. Wonderful.
Не гоняйте, пацаны, вы матерям ещё нужны...
Puc dir que m'agrada, perquè és Brahms però la batuta de Herreweghe no ha estat dintre les meves espectatives interpretatives. No aporta gairebé res de nou, una versió de tantes com n'hi ha! Poca intensitat, bastant superficial en les dinàmiques típiques de Brahms...
Super erste Satz Tempo .
Wirklich Con Brio
👍👍👍
この女性フルート奏者はムラマツの24金を使っているらしい。。音が際立っていますね～。
色んな意味で凄い！！
I rarely say this, but it's too fast, at least in the finale. Just too fast.
女性版パユか？、、、と思っていたら実際パユの門下だそうな。
This is too fast. So fast that it ruined the meaning of some of the slow parts. I don’t understand why everybody wants to rush the music nowadays? Let the music breathe and be expressed. Notice the fourth movement, after the last climax, how it’s so meaningless.... sad.
Some would say that slow tempi are often too indulgent and ponderous. Chacun a son gout.
nope... it has to be perfect and this is not
5:35
20:26
23:13