How was Moria Founded? - The Life of Durin | Lord of the Rings Lore | Middle-Earth

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  • How did the Dwarves of Middle-Earth found the kingdom of Moria? And who was its first King Durin and why was he known as the Deathless? And were the Dwarven rumours true, that Durin would be reincarnated 6 times to lead his people once more? These question and more as we explore the origins of Moria and the Dwarven Kings called Durin.
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  • @GeekZoneMT
    @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    What do you guys think of Durin the Deathless? Is he the most famous Dwarven King in Middle-Earth? And do you believe that he was reincarnated 6 times to lead his people once more? As always subtitles are available and feedback is welcome!

    • @crowleyokpebholo3464
      @crowleyokpebholo3464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think that he was indeed reincarnated most likely by Aulé with permission of Illuvatar

    • @jprocha1570
      @jprocha1570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Durin the Deathless is very interesting, he is easily the most famous of the dwarven kings. I do believe he was reincarnated six times. One of the most interesting things I learned from this video is that of all the kings he was not given a wife, but it is more interesting that he instead received a legion of dwarven followers to help him create Khazad-Dûm.

    • @meduseldtales3383
      @meduseldtales3383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Just like Arwen was not a reincarnation of Luthien - just a romantic notion.

    • @shanenolan8252
      @shanenolan8252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do believe , he and his reincarnation are arguably the greatest dwarf

    • @hockeyking30
      @hockeyking30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @geekzone the dwarves WOULDNT have disturbed his rest but the orcs would have no such problem. Maybe they found his tomb and axe and balin found it afterwards. Just a thought. I doubt balin would tell such a lie. He was a very honorable and noble dwarf

  • @yourstruly4817
    @yourstruly4817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    You've dug so greedily and deep into this subject, you've awoken shadow and flame

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      😂😂

    • @dancronin826
      @dancronin826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My cousin Ballin would give us a royal welcome

    • @C-Jay_Underground
      @C-Jay_Underground 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh so the Balrog of TH-cam has been awoken and that's why content get censored and channels shadow banned? :/

    • @jonathanjoestar9714
      @jonathanjoestar9714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@C-Jay_Underground That would explain a lot.

    • @C-Jay_Underground
      @C-Jay_Underground 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathanjoestar9714 I can't imagine anything else. I'm glad it's not only me!

  • @Jay_Sori
    @Jay_Sori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "It's the dwarfs that go swimming
    with little hairy women!"
    Great video! I'd love to hear your theory of how Gimli's encounter with Aule in Valinor went since this would be the first time that he interacted with one of his creations since they were given life by Illuvatar

    • @nathaniellong4281
      @nathaniellong4281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In his video on the Dwarf afterlife, he said that the Dwarves believe that after dying they go to the Halls of Mandos. Once there, they further go into a special hall meant for only the dwarves, where Aule takes care of them until Dagor Dagorath, the great battle at the end of the world. If this belief is true, then Aule has interacted with many of his creations since they were given life by Illuvatar. Or if not true, then I would also very much like to know the theory of how the encounter between Gimli and Aule in Valinor went.

    • @donweatherwax9318
      @donweatherwax9318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      GIMLI: Oh, Aulë . . . my Maker . . . wouldst thou . . . sign my axe??
      AULË: Sure, little buddy [sign sign]
      GIMLI: OMG this is _so_ _awesome_
      AULË: Hey li'l dude, how 'bout some Dwarven superpowers? D'you want to be able to chug liquid _mithril_ and spit chain lightning?
      GIMLI: Oh, yes please
      ILÚVATAR: *_ahem_*
      AULË: Oh, right Boss. I forgot. No handing out superpowers . . . until the Dagger . . . uh . . . the Bregor . . . Bragollach? . . . you know, the End Times thing. Sorry, big guy. (whispers behind hand) _Come_ _by_ _the_ _backup_ _forge_ _tonight_ _after_ _sundown_ . . . _Mahtan'll_ _let_ _you_ _in._ _Arien's_ _gonna_ _stop_ _by_ _when_ _she_ _gets_ _off_ _work_ _and_ _she's_ _gonna_ _roll_ _us_ _a_ _reef_ _of_ _metamorphic_ _rock,_ _and_ _we'll_ _do_ _some_ _orogeny_ . . . _you'll_ _love_ _it_

  • @guibox3
    @guibox3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You kind of get a little awestruck when you think that long before the rebellion of the Noldor, long before the elves left Valinor and came back to Beleriand, far, far away across the ocean. across the wide lands of Beleriand, the Blue Mountains, Middle Earth and the Misty Mountains, Durin the Deathless and his folk were flourishing in the south east of Middle earth in the greatest dwarf kingdom. Unnoticed and untouched by the Eldar and wars with Morgoth.

    • @goncaloferreira6429
      @goncaloferreira6429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tolkien blessed us with some great stories but many more remain untold.

  • @OptimusMaximusNero
    @OptimusMaximusNero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    "Let them come. There's one dwarf yet in Moria who still draws breath"
    And they said Gimli was only the comic relief.

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      >:( Dwarven fury

    • @meduseldtales3383
      @meduseldtales3383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nope. But increasingly so as the movies progressed(deteriorated).

    • @tomurg
      @tomurg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t forget merry and pippin

    • @marckrieger3277
      @marckrieger3277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was, sadly he was a comic relief.

    • @mrsardonicus513
      @mrsardonicus513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whoever said that was a fool. :P Gimli was a badass and a deep and moving character.

  • @mmcsarte
    @mmcsarte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Tolken's Dwarves are the coolest!

  • @legolasgreenleaf4989
    @legolasgreenleaf4989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gimli always says to me that it was a “shitting hole for the gods, and they shat gems and precious ores”
    But he’s also hooked on elven mead so-

  • @dawndawnster
    @dawndawnster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Carl, these illustrations are downright incredible! The individual/individuals that are responsible are TRULY gifted and then add to your beautiful narrative 👏👏👏 AMAZING 🥰

  • @huanhoundofthevailinor2374
    @huanhoundofthevailinor2374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn't know during the deathless lived that long I knew he'd lived longer than any other dwarf but shit over 2000 years imagine the things he witnessed

  • @TheJCJexe
    @TheJCJexe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks like Durin is back on the menu boys!

  • @dylantorres2496
    @dylantorres2496 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did I miss this! So good! Can’t wait for the next one!

  • @My2cents.
    @My2cents. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One doesn’t experience self-transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates✌️

    • @mojebi3804
      @mojebi3804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Illusion of self huh? Tell me more.

  • @BeppyTurnip
    @BeppyTurnip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos. My friends and family will sometimes compliment me on my knowledge of Tolkien's Universe, but I always tells them that I just watch you guys and History of the Ages videos lul

  • @alpha_wjh1721
    @alpha_wjh1721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this vid!! Keep it up mate👍👍

  • @deanostanley8530
    @deanostanley8530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m really interested in turning my love for lord of the rings into a hobby. Any club/society recommendations would be most welcome. Great video again Carl!

  • @shanenolan8252
    @shanenolan8252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks karl , great topic again

  • @christoph11987
    @christoph11987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video again. I now I said this before but in my opinion this is the best LOTR channel on TH-cam.

  • @jonystyles9473
    @jonystyles9473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice new and interesting lore man, congratz!
    u should do a video of the lore on Orocarni Dawrfs or what do we know of the 7 Dwarf famalys man!

  • @baiweilo136
    @baiweilo136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Balrog: Durin the deathless? Hold my whip...

  • @elbaul.magico
    @elbaul.magico 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really loved this one 🤩

  • @enoughothis
    @enoughothis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    "The world was young, the mountains green
    No stain yet on the Moon was seen
    No words were laid on stream or stone
    When Durin woke and walked alone
    He named the nameless hills and dells
    He drank from yet untasted wells
    He stooped and looked in Mirrormere
    And saw a crown of stars appear
    As gems upon a silver thread
    Above the shadow of his head
    The world was fair, the mountains tall
    In Elder Days before the fall
    Of mighty Kings in Nargothrond
    And Gondolin, who now beyond
    The Western Seas have passed away
    The world was fair in Durin's Day
    A king he was on carven throne
    In many-pillared halls of stone
    With golden roof and silver floor
    And runes of power upon the door
    The light of sun and star and moon
    In shining lamps of crystal hewn
    Undimmed by cloud or shade of night
    There shone forever far and bright
    There hammer on the anvil smote
    There chisel clove, and graver wrote
    There forged was blade and bound was hilt
    The delver mined the mason built
    There beryl, pearl, and opal pale
    And metel wrought like fishes' mail
    Buckler and corslet, axe and sword
    And shining spears were laid in horde
    Unwearied then were Durin's folk
    Beneath the mountains music woke
    The harpers harped, the minstrels sang
    And at the gates the trumpets rang
    The world is grey, the mountains old
    The forge's fire is ashen-cold
    No harp is wrung, no hammer falls
    The darkness dwells in Durin's halls
    The shadow lies upon his tomb
    In Moria, in Khazad-dûm
    But still the sunken stars appear
    In dark and windless Mirrormere
    There lies his crown in water deep
    'Till Durin wakes again from sleep"
    -JRR Tolkien

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Such a wonderful song! Have you heard its cover by Clamavi de Profundus?

    • @malimeringer2346
      @malimeringer2346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GeekZoneMT Their cover almost made me go look for the misty mountains. It is one of the most beatiful musical scores i have ever heard.

    • @enoughothis
      @enoughothis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GeekZoneMT, oh yes. It gives me chills everytime.

  • @chessgoalsyt
    @chessgoalsyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    loving these dwarf videos! :)

  • @charlesmartel6108
    @charlesmartel6108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The LotR lore of the dwarves are so underrated, there are material for great movies or series.

  • @spqr194
    @spqr194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great video

  • @ofantastycekameralnie1600
    @ofantastycekameralnie1600 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice :D

  • @Massive_Lobster
    @Massive_Lobster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Return of The King! Good to see you back Karl!

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Edmund, it's great to be back! :D

  • @levijc3581
    @levijc3581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the music called that's about 2 minutes into the video ?

  • @CYON4D
    @CYON4D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very good watch as always!

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks King Thoden!

  • @Crafty_Spirit
    @Crafty_Spirit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The star constellation Durin sees in the mirrorlake is what the Eldar call the Valacirya, the sickel of the Valar. Though the Valar apparently never interacted directly with the dwarves after Aule put them to sleep, I like to think that they signalled their good will towards the adopted children of Ilúvatar.

  • @CJ-111
    @CJ-111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. It amazed me how much of a universe Tolkien made.

  • @AhmeD-SnafR
    @AhmeD-SnafR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx u 😍😍😍

  • @DrunkJester
    @DrunkJester 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little of topic but I've havnt seen any one talk about the wild men that helped the Rohrim with a short cut to the Pelenor Fields. I've looked on other channels but havnt come across it so it would be cool to see a vid on the wild men of the forest i think the chief was Ghan buri Ghan.

  • @BenGras
    @BenGras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice to see you are back my friend!

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Ben, I've been somewhat busy with studies unfortunately :(

    • @BenGras
      @BenGras 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeekZoneMT i love you regardless.

  • @passivepurple5952
    @passivepurple5952 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the song playing at 3:40?

  • @sadek__4952
    @sadek__4952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am too early that I still didn't listen to the video, but I know for sure it's gonna be good

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers man! :D

  • @Cloud-cz6xk
    @Cloud-cz6xk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is Sauron’s motivation? Power? Hatred?

  • @judsongaiden9878
    @judsongaiden9878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dwarf architecture has sort of an art deco motif going on. Orc tech is all about mass production, quantity over quality, whereas Dwarf tech is all about quality, innovation, and cleverness. To a Dwarf, the notion of quantity over quality (or planned obsolescence) would probably seem disdainful or downright offensive. Their manufacturing policy is everything should be built to last. In this age of our world, we've abandoned that principle. More's the pity.

  • @theanimeelephant2017
    @theanimeelephant2017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Karl your the reason I'm obsessed with LOTR!

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome man, it's definitely one of the best things to be obsessed with! :D

  • @tomurg
    @tomurg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So it would seem that dwarves spring out of holes in the ground after all

  • @patrickmcglonejr8163
    @patrickmcglonejr8163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those 2 dislikes must be Durin's Bane and Azog 😅

  • @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
    @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BARUK KHAZAAD!! My life has meaning again

  • @Mentallect
    @Mentallect 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Durin the Deathless is not dead, just sleeping until re-awakened.

  • @masseyfurguson8871
    @masseyfurguson8871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *May Durin Be With You All!*

  • @hockeyking30
    @hockeyking30 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @geekzone the dwarves WOULDNT have disturbed his rest but the orcs would have no such problem. Maybe they found his tomb and axe and balin found it afterwards. Just a thought. I doubt balin would tell such a lie. He was a very honorable and noble dwarf

  • @_alex_dts1909
    @_alex_dts1909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow i think that was one of the most interesting video 👍👍
    Also can you do a video about when the dwarves reclaimed Moria and what did they found??

  • @jakeoreilly9627
    @jakeoreilly9627 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How the grow food down there is what I wonder

  • @bjornattard7987
    @bjornattard7987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proset Karl! 😊
    Kontenut tal-blieh bhas soltu, 😮
    and welcome back!! 🥰

  • @kaank5921
    @kaank5921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The greatest city of the Dwarves, it goes by many names; Khazad-dûm, Dwarrowdelf and as it has come to be called now Moria as the Elves call it, the Black Pit.

  • @mrsardonicus513
    @mrsardonicus513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it is certain that he was reincarnated, to answer your primary question. It is without doubt. As for the question of Durin's Axe... You could be right, and it was the axe of Durin VI alone. But, I think it is far more likely that the orcs plundered Durin I's tomb, or even likelier still that Durin I's axe was not buried with him but was in fact held in a place of reverence, much like the shards of Narsil, for the hand of their rightful wielder to pick up once again, and that this axe was passed down to each incarnation of the Father of Dwarves. This, to me, seems much more likely. I see it being handed down, it's head made of mithril and it's handle perhaps diamond in part (or adamant as it is called in Tolkien lore - and I had always imagined it as mithril with a sharp diamond edge and partial handle), but with each Durin adding his own mark to it during his life, his own personal stamp or contribution to the weapon. It's just something dwarves would do, ya know?

  • @jonathanthomas4182
    @jonathanthomas4182 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Durin the 1st was basically both the Adam & the Methuselah of all the Dwarves of Middle Earth.

  • @southernberean8166
    @southernberean8166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn’t he make impenetrable vests for his whole army

  • @leomillett2845
    @leomillett2845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll never say no to another Dwarf video from GeekZone!

  • @kevinobill4818
    @kevinobill4818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I missed the Grommash theme, it's very memorable. I haven't seen any videos about the Haradrim and the only source that I can see is from the Mumakil.

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's my favourite one also, though I try to use it when it's appropriate :D

  • @Escrublet
    @Escrublet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I

  • @MAXIMORUBERT100
    @MAXIMORUBERT100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. How long it took them to do Create casa doom???

  • @ramonejules9938
    @ramonejules9938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carl turn up the microphone

  • @95spades
    @95spades 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are you from? I've got a really hard time pin pointing your accent. Not that the accent bothers me though, more so it adds character to your voice.

  • @captaingalaxy5265
    @captaingalaxy5265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would happen after the 6 "lives"

  • @LordMuffinToken
    @LordMuffinToken 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    PAH and they call it a mine. a MIIINE

  • @comptonGANGBANG
    @comptonGANGBANG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how did he die tho ?

  • @Damian-cx1tv
    @Damian-cx1tv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello :)

  • @loremaster234
    @loremaster234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Second! I’ve been waiting so long! 🥳😭
    *cries in elvish*

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sorry buddy!! :D Trust me, I hate being away :'(

    • @loremaster234
      @loremaster234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeekZoneMT No problem! Just makes it even more valuable. Keep up the great work!

  • @zealot1759
    @zealot1759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dwarves have the best story. You never hear about dwarves butchering each other over boats. It’s the grand downfall of their kingdoms that’s survives in pop culture.

  • @docvaliant721
    @docvaliant721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Durin the 7th was Thorins son.

  • @EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal
    @EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:53 wait so are gimli gloin fili kili and the others not their real names?
    Also fun fact all of their names including gandalf were taken from the prose and poets Edda which is where all the Norse mythology stuff is from

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No those are just the names they used among non-Dwarves :)

    • @EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal
      @EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeekZoneMT I like the idea that two dwarf perents are having an argument about what to name their child and they eventually decide to just use both one as a dwarf name the other as a non dwarf name
      And they then start arguing about which should be which

  • @JohnnyWalkerKat
    @JohnnyWalkerKat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone explain to me how the orcs get into moria? The door was magically locked as we saw at LOTR but im not sure about the door they exit after Gandalf's fall. Was it open and if yes why the dwarfs leave it like this?

    • @meduseldtales3383
      @meduseldtales3383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently the East Gate was destroyed during the Battle of Azanulbizar.

    • @JohnnyWalkerKat
      @JohnnyWalkerKat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@meduseldtales3383 That happened at the third age but the dwarves leave moria way sooner that that... but reading some more i found that the dwarves leave after the discovery of the balrog.

  • @sonnytamber7
    @sonnytamber7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @emperorsavron-peterdewind0358
    @emperorsavron-peterdewind0358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I was Aule, I would remember to bury Durin with a female partner...

  • @railroadspikesareyummy7955
    @railroadspikesareyummy7955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

  • @trooperofman727
    @trooperofman727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What of the other dwarf fathers

  • @loremaster234
    @loremaster234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder why Durin wasn’t given a wife? Hmm.

    • @GeekZoneMT
      @GeekZoneMT  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah that always puzzled me tbh, seems like such a strange way to single him out (forgive the pun)

    • @loremaster234
      @loremaster234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeekZoneMT 😂👌

  • @elpeiq4103
    @elpeiq4103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:39 raffiniert

  • @jasonhannon8860
    @jasonhannon8860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First