3D printed frames would be a nice option and you'd imagine would really take off in the near future. Especially if it brought prices down once perfected and scaled way up.
@Nathan Johnson I'd imagine unscrew the cartridge from the frame and you'd have access to the valve. Again all of this depends on how well such an arrangement can be made to withstand normal use. Other way would be if a valve could be place somewhere else.
Honestly, after listening to his reasoning and the bikes design in a podcast, I’m starting to like it. To service the shock you have to drop the fork out and it pops out the front of the head tube - but it’s otherwise no different to service than your normal air can shocks. And yea, really competitive weight wise.
The vitus rapide fs looks amazing! Vitus has come far with their xc line... Comparable with the likes of trek, Specialized, giant, Canyon, cannondale, you name it.. Very good indeed.
The Vitus paint is clearly inspired by roy lichtenstein, the 20th century artist who pioneered that primary colour, textured pop art. Andy Worhol didn’t do anything like that at all, Andy simply parodied pop culture and art using various screen printing techniques.
Thanks for the mention of Mend It Kits. When I go for a ride, I always try to take something in the way of a first aid kit (excrement occurs). Sounds like they have put together a very well thought-out kit.
Seen some videos on that Digit. Like it better than scotts "hide o shock"the Digit reminds me of the maverick frames with integrated shocks from back in da day. Like to see a xc version , if this is 2lbs. lighter than carbon enduro frames.
I really like the Mend Kit! It's long overdue (to my knowledge) a MTB specific First-Aid kit! I do have one I made with a turniquet, gauges, band-aids. But I really like that this one comes with the Splints too! I did google it and found it a bit pricey at $50, however I think it's a fair price considering I paid about $20 just for a turniquet .
Mend It kits are actually very smart and important oversight many of us have with safe riding. Good to see more thought for us riders being put into these kits
First time I've seen a grouping of new tech that I thought was really cool from top to bottom. Usually, theres a few, "but, why?". Not today. Companies are killing it! Im excited for the future of MTB! Mostly for my kids 😢
I still running 9-speed (old shimano XT). Works great. Lots of mud and stuff here in Norway, and 10 speed and above has a tendency to clog up with mud, dirt and stuff. Works great when it is clean, but MTBs usually dont stay clean for long around here. 200 meters or so... But I guess Box Components only has 1x9. So they are out. Fully machined cassette is also expencive. The vitus looks nice. Looks like a good old XC-bike. Not common these days.
@@boostaddict_ Too big steps between the gears. Lots of up-hills here (typical 300-500 meters in one go and you can have several climbs on one ride) and correct gearing is vital in up-hills for me. A stronger rider can probably do with bigger steps. But mountain biking is turning more and more towards down slope riding and lift based riding. For that 1x9 is very good.
Anna ... a breath of fresh ✨️ 😊 luv her iñ 🎬 ?? but brilliant at her job and so ordinary always to the point! Bicycle 🚲 🚴♂️ 🚵♂️ her knowledge is astonishing.
For quick service a cap is unscrewed along the piston. For deep dive service you need to slide the shock out through the head tube that has a cap covering the hole.
can i ask a question .... WHY nobody sand the welding s , i understand they look cool and bla bla but i will like to see some bike that you pay 6k+ for, with sanded welds ...ps and it can be done, i had a BMW ( hard tail ) was like poetry was sooo damn nice to look and TOUCH
Revel bike's 3D printed carbon fiber resin is no stronger than non-composite resin due to the tow strands being too short to reach the minimum length to achieve any tensile strength in the resin matrix, unfortunately. I personally believe forged extruded syntactic magnesium is the most promising material.
Got a 32T 5Dev crank and my GF got a 30 Oval! They may be too pretty to use! The 5Dev guys were super cool and as promised I didn’t ask when I saw Anna at Garmin. 😂. Yes. She is more beautiful in person. 😇
Nice bikes! Looking at racers vs typical yo! XC bikes are not for the masses as they are way too twitchy and unforgiving. Anything below 130mm in the rear are not going to be popular. The way to go is 130mm rear 140mm front or the ideal 130mm rear and 150-160mm front.
@@gmbntech Thanks! I think the new look of the Box derailleur is very cool! Reminds me of Ingrid Components, but probably at a much more affordable price point. The frame design from Digit is really rad as well. I think this might be the first implementation of this design in a non-carbon frame? Hopefully makes it more attainable too. I could be interested in something like that, down the line, when it's time to retire my Fuel EX. As a Scandi minimal looks are of course very important ;)
They're the Smith Optics Lowdown but we think they may have run out of the jazzy white and black speckle colourway! (Anna's fashion influence of course 😉)
Slow manufacturing methods like 3D printing most likely aren't the future of consumer products. It's an incredibly slow way to produce something and it makes you ask the question "why do we need it to be 3D printed?" That said, methods like 3D Printing, CNC, and EDM are incredibly useful for prototypes and tooling, of can then be used to rapidly stamp out a variety of bikes and components. Buying a new bike just to ride the current trails we have has become increasingly expensive, something white collar middle aged men might be able to afford perhaps. Small scale niche manufacturers aren't helping that problem. There's a reason the best selling brands make all the boring stuff...
Plastic Bikes are not the future of biking otherwise they'd have already gone down that road. 3D printing has been out for several decades and manufacturers have had plenty of time to R&D many materials as viable. Car makers come to mind - Car makers do not use plastic as a structural component for a reason - it won't hold up. They use plastic componetns as facade and coverings and to make the overall vehicle lighter weight. While they use steel and carbon components for strength and durability. If Revel is using "plastic" as structure - it's not pure plastic and likely some sort of composite / combination of materials to produce any vaible structure and rigidity. Maybe GMBN does a deep dive into Revel like they did w/ 5Dev so we get a better explanation of this "plastic bike as the future of the biking industry" statement.
And the Digit Integrated Shock is restricted to those specific bieks and those bikes can't take another brand. FInally Digit has been around for ~2 years so if the company fails the you're stuck with a bike that cannot replace a bad shock. If I wanted bespoke+integrated parts I wouldn't be ridingin high end bikes (the whole point of which is to be able to mix and match and swap out parts as we see fit).
Definitely don't need a electrical device to tell me how I should be training . And wat I need to improve . All this electronic rubbish wat the world coming to .so unnecessary and over priced rubbish.just get addicuate rest and and train harder than last time
Please do not buy the Mend It kit. It’s very obviously using a knock off tourniquet that is not going to be TCCC approved. They are also advocating a terrible way to store your tourniquet. It should not be wrapped around your frame where it is exposed to rocks, dirt, etc. It should be stowed away from the elements so that it does not potentially degrade and break when you need it most. A tourniquet is emergency life-saving equipment, you should not be using Chinese knock offs or storing it in a way that exposes it to damage.
What was your favourite piece of MTB tech from this video? Let us know below!👇
3D printed frames would be a nice option and you'd imagine would really take off in the near future. Especially if it brought prices down once perfected and scaled way up.
Anna
Last bike. Pure functionality. I love it.
that Digit bike, especially the BB is very innovative
that last shock in frame looks wild .
Loved that last frame, really clever way of integrating the shock. If it still has the required strength and saves that much weight then wow!
"Supercaliber copy"...
I sure Moots did that last frame 20 years ago 😂
How do you add air?
@Nathan Johnson I'd imagine unscrew the cartridge from the frame and you'd have access to the valve. Again all of this depends on how well such an arrangement can be made to withstand normal use. Other way would be if a valve could be place somewhere else.
Honestly, after listening to his reasoning and the bikes design in a podcast, I’m starting to like it. To service the shock you have to drop the fork out and it pops out the front of the head tube - but it’s otherwise no different to service than your normal air can shocks. And yea, really competitive weight wise.
The vitus rapide fs looks amazing! Vitus has come far with their xc line... Comparable with the likes of trek, Specialized, giant, Canyon, cannondale, you name it.. Very good indeed.
Last frame concept was FIRE!
Looks mint.
I like it. But it needs another support tube, from the shock tube to the front down tube. Thats going to snap.
@@rchydrozz751 I mean, I'm open to them passing it my way to test that point...and I WILL test it if that's what they're after!
😅
The Vitus paint is clearly inspired by roy lichtenstein, the 20th century artist who pioneered that primary colour, textured pop art. Andy Worhol didn’t do anything like that at all, Andy simply parodied pop culture and art using various screen printing techniques.
Today we learnt something!
Anna very informative as always,keep up the great work your an awesome presenter.
5Dev missed the mark on the free chain ring. It should have had a chain attached so the 'superfans' could wear it wit their RUN CNC shirts. ha!
The Digit bike reminded of a frame Boulder Cycles did many years using an in-the-frame shock.
Thanks for the mention of Mend It Kits. When I go for a ride, I always try to take something in the way of a first aid kit (excrement occurs). Sounds like they have put together a very well thought-out kit.
Excremement occurs is our new favourite phrase. Yes it's always better to be prepared! Even just having something that could be used as a tourniquet
The Digit Datum is pretty slick. It's definitely on my radar.
Totally great cover. Want a digit with Crane creek 10 limited fork
Seen some videos on that Digit. Like it better than scotts
"hide o shock"the Digit reminds me of the maverick frames with integrated shocks from back in da day. Like to see a xc version , if this is 2lbs. lighter than carbon enduro frames.
I really like the Mend Kit! It's long overdue (to my knowledge) a MTB specific First-Aid kit! I do have one I made with a turniquet, gauges, band-aids. But I really like that this one comes with the Splints too!
I did google it and found it a bit pricey at $50, however I think it's a fair price considering I paid about $20 just for a turniquet .
That Mend It kit is awesome!
That Vitis is insane.👌🔥🔥
Loving the Sea Otter videos!
digit up! nice jobs
Mend It kits are actually very smart and important oversight many of us have with safe riding. Good to see more thought for us riders being put into these kits
Digit is nice design and love the frame is light and simple
Definitely a cool bike!
Big fan of the Digit Datum. So clean.
The last frame is awesome so is that chainring :)) id like one myself please :)
Big fan of artwork on bikes!
First time I've seen a grouping of new tech that I thought was really cool from top to bottom. Usually, theres a few, "but, why?". Not today. Companies are killing it! Im excited for the future of MTB! Mostly for my kids 😢
I still running 9-speed (old shimano XT). Works great. Lots of mud and stuff here in Norway, and 10 speed and above has a tendency to clog up with mud, dirt and stuff. Works great when it is clean, but MTBs usually dont stay clean for long around here. 200 meters or so... But I guess Box Components only has 1x9. So they are out. Fully machined cassette is also expencive.
The vitus looks nice. Looks like a good old XC-bike. Not common these days.
1x9 is all you need, it has just as much range as old 3x9 drivetrains, but with better chain retention.
@@boostaddict_ Too big steps between the gears. Lots of up-hills here (typical 300-500 meters in one go and you can have several climbs on one ride) and correct gearing is vital in up-hills for me. A stronger rider can probably do with bigger steps. But mountain biking is turning more and more towards down slope riding and lift based riding. For that 1x9 is very good.
.....you did a great report job.....congrats Anna !!
Good work Anna, lots to remember in this episode!
Thanks Anna.
Was not a huge fan of Anna but gotta say that the Sea Otter vidoes have been top notch. Cograts Anna. Kudos
Great coverage and really liked your presenting skills Anna.
Thanks Dave!
I'd love to see more about that Digit bike
1:00 oh my gosh I love this bike!!
Thanks for the section on Revel! That is fascinating to see and to think that will be the not so distant future!
Digit for the win. Simpler and lighter. And hopefully, cheaper.
Is that Doddy in the background at 1:48 ?
It’s been long enough, that’s for sure
Love that Vitus bike. WOW
@annaonthebike is so good at what she does! She explains the stuff one after another as if she's the creator of it. She deserves a network job.
Nice to see Charlie Dimmock has found work on GMBN, seen as ground force has finished
Great job Anna as always!
That Garmin is very cool, love the training feature
Would love to try the Box One P9 drivetrain. Really hard to find in NZ sadly.
That green Lyrik would look killer in that Commencal bike.
Great music Dotty!
When Doddy isn't at Sea Otter I begin to worry.
Shut up
@@Nick-pq6ij Cry!
People are saying he’s out getting plastic surgery
Get over it😂😂😂
RIP Doddy
How are you not selling the revel rodeo what’s the wait for? Canfield bikes did it with the one.2 just follow them and change it up a bit
Those cranks 😍
What kind of BB has that carbon 3D printed full suspension got? Threaded?
A flexible one I suspect
Box is great, infinitely rebuildable and tough as nails!
Anna ... a breath of fresh ✨️ 😊 luv her iñ 🎬 ?? but brilliant at her job and so ordinary always to the point! Bicycle 🚲 🚴♂️ 🚵♂️ her knowledge is astonishing.
integrated shock looks cool but how do you service this thing.
For quick service a cap is unscrewed along the piston. For deep dive service you need to slide the shock out through the head tube that has a cap covering the hole.
Great job anna the new compound maxxis tyres look good
Nine is Fine! I'd definitely consider a 9 spd BOX drivetrain.
That was fun.
Great video!
Thanks for the feedback!
Anna is awesome!
Glad you've enjoyed the videos!
Smashing it Anna 🎉
The shock in frame was a good idea
wow, some amazing stuff at the show.
Keith Allen Haring was the inspiration for that bike.
Круто 👍🏻. Ещё побольше новинок с выставки💪🏻. Всё прям очень интересно. Есть ли велосипеды фирмы TREK?
If you need a tourniquet on a MTB ride, things have really gone wrong.
No joke! Just remember high and tight.
Very true, but better to have and not need it then need it but not have it.
You promised ugly, yet no stop at the Orange bikes tent.
Savage! 😂
can i ask a question .... WHY nobody sand the welding s , i understand they look cool and bla bla but i will like to see some bike that you pay 6k+ for, with sanded welds ...ps and it can be done, i had a BMW ( hard tail ) was like poetry was sooo damn nice to look and TOUCH
thermoplastic!!! 1999 gt lobo flashbacks here we go haha
The norco could use that new 2 speed hub
Wait.. so thermoplastic is the way of the future ?? Like the way GT did in the 90s?
Did vitus even exist before this year?
Go Revel!
I could not ride one of those bikes. They ARE on a Andy Wormhole level . Great show
is Andy Wormhole Andy Warhol's even edgier cousin? 🤔😂
i dont trust Carbon
Revel bike's 3D printed carbon fiber resin is no stronger than non-composite resin due to the tow strands being too short to reach the minimum length to achieve any tensile strength in the resin matrix, unfortunately.
I personally believe forged extruded syntactic magnesium is the most promising material.
9:04 Did somebody just bunny hop a scooter in the background?
Got a 32T 5Dev crank and my GF got a 30 Oval! They may be too pretty to use!
The 5Dev guys were super cool and as promised I didn’t ask when I saw Anna at Garmin. 😂. Yes. She is more beautiful in person. 😇
Too bad that commencal won’t match California in the summer :(
12speed for me I really need that granny ring with 50 teeth !
Nice bikes! Looking at racers vs typical yo! XC bikes are not for the masses as they are way too twitchy and unforgiving. Anything below 130mm in the rear are not going to be popular. The way to go is 130mm rear 140mm front or the ideal 130mm rear and 150-160mm front.
Time stamps pleeeease
We've just added them, give the video a refresh and they should be appearing now. What was your favourite thing from the show so far?
@@gmbntech Thanks! I think the new look of the Box derailleur is very cool! Reminds me of Ingrid Components, but probably at a much more affordable price point. The frame design from Digit is really rad as well. I think this might be the first implementation of this design in a non-carbon frame? Hopefully makes it more attainable too. I could be interested in something like that, down the line, when it's time to retire my Fuel EX. As a Scandi minimal looks are of course very important ;)
Never use a torniquet unless explicitly instructed to by a paramedic or doctor folks!
0:50 the bike is drawing inspiration from comic art like Roy Lichtenstein [EDIT: and Keith Haring], not Andy Warhol.
Quite a lot of Keith Haring in there as well
@@daroob definitely, good call.
Rear stays
I got the Garmin 540 a few days ago. Way better than the 530.
In what way is it better than the 530. I don't need a reason to upgrade. Lol
@@8o8ertmtb In what way? In multiple ways!
That Garmin does it make you a coffee or cup of tea? If not why not
Fingers crossed that's included in the next software update 😉😂
I hope I would never have to use a tourniquet on anyone on the trail. I wonder how many riders have needed this kind of triage?
You always hear the odd horror story! Always better to be prepared if you're venturing a long way into the hills
Even more tech ong
It doesn't stop at this time of year!
Where is Doddy?
I miss his Intel big time 😔
Fired like clarkson
Been in SE Asian for a few months according to his IG
I really like the digit datum, very innovative. If only it wasn’t $3500 for a aluminum frame set.
Anna, my wife wants to know what glasses you are wearing 😜
They're the Smith Optics Lowdown but we think they may have run out of the jazzy white and black speckle colourway! (Anna's fashion influence of course 😉)
Criminal not to show the WR1 show bikes.
Sometimes being diff looks cool, but that Vitus looks like a clown mobile.
Integrated shocks now?😬🤦♂
Always innovating! Think it'll catch on? 🤔
@@gmbntech I hope not because I expect maintenance will be harder.😕
Slow manufacturing methods like 3D printing most likely aren't the future of consumer products. It's an incredibly slow way to produce something and it makes you ask the question "why do we need it to be 3D printed?" That said, methods like 3D Printing, CNC, and EDM are incredibly useful for prototypes and tooling, of can then be used to rapidly stamp out a variety of bikes and components. Buying a new bike just to ride the current trails we have has become increasingly expensive, something white collar middle aged men might be able to afford perhaps. Small scale niche manufacturers aren't helping that problem. There's a reason the best selling brands make all the boring stuff...
Anna go's Casey Neistat 😎
Oh my.. how stunning was that cammo Comencal. One of the best paint jobs I've seen in my opinion. Likey, Likey very much.🚵♀️👍 Keep well all
DIGGGGGGIT BIKE fuuuuuutuuuuuuure!!!! *squidward rocking in fetal position*
Shame not to see the kingdom cycles bike
That BB pivot going to get wrecked fast.
Hopefully the Vitus bike doesn’t crack those 5Dev crankarms
Plastic Bikes are not the future of biking otherwise they'd have already gone down that road. 3D printing has been out for several decades and manufacturers have had plenty of time to R&D many materials as viable. Car makers come to mind - Car makers do not use plastic as a structural component for a reason - it won't hold up. They use plastic componetns as facade and coverings and to make the overall vehicle lighter weight. While they use steel and carbon components for strength and durability. If Revel is using "plastic" as structure - it's not pure plastic and likely some sort of composite / combination of materials to produce any vaible structure and rigidity. Maybe GMBN does a deep dive into Revel like they did w/ 5Dev so we get a better explanation of this "plastic bike as the future of the biking industry" statement.
And the Digit Integrated Shock is restricted to those specific bieks and those bikes can't take another brand. FInally Digit has been around for ~2 years so if the company fails the you're stuck with a bike that cannot replace a bad shock. If I wanted bespoke+integrated parts I wouldn't be ridingin high end bikes (the whole point of which is to be able to mix and match and swap out parts as we see fit).
" alcoholic wipes" ?? What is she thinking about....
Definitely don't need a electrical device to tell me how I should be training . And wat I need to improve . All this electronic rubbish wat the world coming to .so unnecessary and over priced rubbish.just get addicuate rest and and train harder than last time
Agreed I’m still using my bar mounted Abacus to keep track of mileage
I see anodised tat in vomit inducing colour combos is still in vogue 🙄
Please do not buy the Mend It kit.
It’s very obviously using a knock off tourniquet that is not going to be TCCC approved.
They are also advocating a terrible way to store your tourniquet. It should not be wrapped around your frame where it is exposed to rocks, dirt, etc. It should be stowed away from the elements so that it does not potentially degrade and break when you need it most.
A tourniquet is emergency life-saving equipment, you should not be using Chinese knock offs or storing it in a way that exposes it to damage.
@@irfuel Real ones are only $30-$35 USD, a tourniquet is not something you want to cheap out on and should never be used as a frame strap
@@irfuel It will be as bad as nothing when the windlass snaps in the crash that you need the tourniquet for