Kia Seltos DCT Heating Issue 😱 Kya hai SACH Kia Seltos Automatic Petrol ka - Owner's Review
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Latest Car News India | Kia Seltos Petrol Automatic DCT ka Heating Issue by Owner. Jaaniye kya hai sach Kia Seltos ke DCT heating issue ke baarien mein ek owner se. Facebook par ek post dali thi about the Seltos DCT Heating issue in bumper to bumper traffic jis cheez ko aap ko Dhyn mein rakhna bahut zaruri hai. Jaaniye Seltos Diesel leni chahiye ya Petrol ?
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Its me who posted that issue. After it gone viral. KIA Service Manager in our area called and arranged a meeting with their technicians. They took time and explained what to do to avoid this heating issue.
1) Make sure to put the gear in Neutral whenever possible in stop and go traffic like jam packed areas and traffic signals which will reduce the stress on the transmission.
2) Don't stop and go with half pressed brakes which will put more pressure on transmission in b2b traffic scenario
3) Dont use the "ECO" mode in city traffic. Use "Normal" in day 2 day driving conditions (This one is not mentioned by service guys, but someone in Team-bhp)
I am yet to test these tips in coming days whenever possible.
I think kia should make a eco system like audi..car automatically turns off and when u give throttle engine automatically gets in to life..so u dont have to put brake all the time while u r in traffic
Beats the decision of automatic. i have no such issues with my Altis.
Can we drive in manual mode available in first gear? Instead of auto, when in traffic? Can it help avoiding engaging duel clutch?
@@ashishbhade342 No idea, but i was suggested by KIA technicians, that you should always try to put the gear in Neutral whenever possible like at jam packed areas and traffic signals, that will help the transmission a lot. And dont drive with half pressed brakes. You should either use the brakes or loose them fully.
Sahith, I have GTX+ DCT as well.. I have faced same problem , and I have sent detailed mail to KIA.
So you think the points thst u hv shared that will solve problem.. have u imagined what if u r on bridge inclining and there traffic jam b2b.
Or If you are on hilly region, then.. I am sure that Hill hold feature will generate more Heat to transmission ... while continuously using neutral, Drive mode , and then brake in a traffic jam situation.
I have experienced Transmission heating to TOP in 6 to 7 minutes and display asked me to stop my seltos... Why audi or some other brand who give DCT has not faced problem.. KIA has surely compromised on quality of DCT. I think much more needs to be done from KIA. instead of giving stupid tips and tricks to drive an AUTOMATIC VEHICLE. The whole purpose is defeated of automatic transmission either DCT , CVT, ICT or any...
When people buy automatic to have hassle free drive in traffic what make sense of having temp issue
I find most people buy automatic cars expecting them to be nothing short of self driven cars. There is nothing normal about the traffic in India. Which is why, a CVT is probably better it one expects to drive mostly in traffic with never having to shift back to Neutral at a hault.
@@BhaskarDeva hi can you please tell me why one doesn't have to shift back to neutral in a cvt at halt?
@@_arsalan Each automatic gearbox works differently. In case of CVT or even iVT (as.hyundai calls it) - they don't employ a clutch. A constantly variable transmission is belt driven between two drums which can vary their diameter to offer infinite gear ratios. On the contrary , a DCT employs 2 clutches.
The question is: even after having years of market, traffic & weather experience of India by Hyundai, on what recommendations & possibilities did they launch a DRY clutch DCT system for India? WET type could have solved these heating issues far better than the other one. Even increasing engine, gearbox & transmission life.
@@satya4gogoi Agreed - wet type DCT is common across expensive cars. I suspect that the cost of repairs & rebuilds on wet type is the reason why Hyundai/Kia moved to dry clutch DCT builds. In a wet type - transmission fluid needs to be drained out each time a repair is needed (since the entire drive-train is submersed).
What type of a feedback are you giving brother ..Volkswagen is making DSG since years ..and USP of VW cars selling is the dual clutch transmission..
I have been using polo tsi dsg from past 7 years haven’t ever I faced such a issue ..in extreme condition ..Kia needs to take this issue seriously ..so sustain their mark in India ..
Truth is Volkswagen DSGs also gets heat up in traffic, go and search google with "Volkswagen DSG issues" and your lifetime is not enough to read all those issues and the sad part is your car might not have a heat sensor for your DSG lol so no warnings.
In polo u dnt have eco mode.first u dnt have to drive in eco mode in traffic conditions
I too have a Polo TSI and it has never heated up in traffic. One of the things I do (although not officially advised) is to keep the gear lever in Neutral during traffic halts. I don't keep riding the brakes. The same procedure is followed for my other car (City CVT).
@@fhdowntheline1825 i follow the same especially at long signals and cumbersome traffic halts. This was not officially advised by VW but the salesperson gave me this final tip while handing out the car keys.
Rizwan Mohamed you are correct I have an Audi and a polo gt both have an DCT
Many companies (eg Ford) brought Dual clutch transmission in the market then discontinued, it is not an easy gearbox, companies like VW, Audi, Merc etc, even they face some issues some times... Companies should try & test it first before they launch rather than providing faulty cars to their customers. Still companies like Hyundai, Kia they need to research further about it & then launch rather than discontinuing all of a sudden. Then customers will suffer when they will visit a service centre.
Being a long term user of DSG gearbox(skoda rapid style plus & octavia vrs) I know it is one of the costliest & high maintenance gearbox in the car industry right now.
Please all car buyers, if u really want to go for dual clutch transmission, then buy German, otherwise go for other gearboxes available in the market.
Thank u😊😊
Its an eye opener.. I was considering DCT for Bangalore city, how ever as city is full with bumper to bumper traffic, now I need to think about it before the buying decision. Thanks for it.
same here
Exactly....this is a deal breaker
I'm using the Venue DCT in Bangalore and i face no problems. Every automatic gearbox is engineered differently. One just needs to learn and understand how to use it and extract the best out of it. If one expects to never have to shift to Neutral and keep waiting long with their foot on the break - a CVT is probably the best option. But then should not complain about the spongy rubber band effect. I also own a Honda City automatic so i live with both CVT and DCT
Bhaskar Deva Venue’s engine is way smaller and less powerful than Kia’s. I am not saying that Kia hasn’t messed up- but don’t compare puny car venue to GTX
@@ShaleenVashisht Well I meant no disrespect bro. We own both Seltos and venue in DCT variant at our home. I also own a bike with a 998cc engine with makes a good 50bhp more than what the 1.4 Seltos makes - happily does 100 in less then 3 seconds vs the 10 sec which the seltos takes. But thats not the point, both Kia & Hyundai employ the same 7 speed DCT dry clutch gearbox on their cars worldwide. Even the GDi tech used is the same. Irrespective of the power they put out. In fact - this is probably the first time KIA is trying out the DCT route. They are better known for the 6-speed sportmatic gearboxes. And their larger 1.6L GDi & 2.0L GDi engines are more popular across Europe & US which makes far more power. Globally the Seltos comes with the base 1.6L GDi - India gets the lower variant to avail tax benefits.
Rishabh, thank you for the video and information provided. Have a question though on your comments that Kia seltos GTX dct is not built for city drive and even for long drives; will driving continuously for couple of hours or more on highways also cause heating issues?
Any known issues with the Kia Seltos diesel torque converter automatic? Not sure in terms of engine is there a diff between the GTX+ ver of diesel and HTX+ automatics. Any info would be really helpful.
But that is counterintuitive as one buys automatic for city traffic condition of stop and go. If dct is giving this problem then it's problematic for seltos. We should get official communication from Kia.
Does the infortanement system also hang as told by some of the users?
Which is better for city drive in automatic !
Venue sx plus dct or sonet HTk plus diesel AT?
Any heating issues in dct?
And city mileage of both?
4:31 you said DCT is not for those who often go on long drive ? 5:20 In city traffic when partial traffic is more DCT is not suitable .
May I know from where you got this information ?
The DSG gearboxes are the most thrilling to drive among automatics. It is very inconvenient and irritating to shift to neutral every time to stop the car in heavy traffic like mumbai. If so go for manual.The Volkswagen DSGs does not have these kind of problems.
Thank you for the information Rishabh. This is definitely disappointing as automatics are meant to ease your driving conditions in the city limits. Not sure if wet clutch would have been better.
Well explained, today I see post from hyundai as they are coming with IMT in venue... are they replacing DCT bcoz of these issues
I heard that the Venue DCT & Seltos DCT are both dry type clutch, hence the heating issue in bumper to bumper traffic. This problem does not happen in wet clutch assembly
I have had Audi A4 Automatic, Q3, Freelander, I have driven them in bumper to bumper traffic in Gurgaon. NEVER ever had a problem. The whole purpose of Automatic is defeated if it heats up in stop & go traffic. If it's highway or free flowing traffic, MT is perfectly alright
Shudder to think how it would behave in May-June peak summer
#Correct
Yes, many expert saying
Between Dry & Wet clutch matter.
Yes, I also heard that issue
Are u sure doesnot happen in wet clutch?
@@thesunalwaysshine..3929 Wet clutch gets cooled by oil. So less chance of overheating.
I m confused between kia seltos hte diesel and honda city sv diesel which one should i go for???
Good to know this, I have recently booked GTX Plus manual transmission but my dealer was insisting me to go for DCT variant. At one time I was a bit puzzled.
Is GTK variant has the heating issue ...tarbo petrol ..because i have to own a car for a long drive ... about 6
00 hundred km some time it has to run
Good evening bro we can drive Dct car with Paddle sifters in bumper to bumper traffic it will use tell me bro and Dct r good r bad
Even for honda venue IMT turbo having the same issue,not sure what is the solution for this issue...in city by default we have to bumper to bumper there is no other options so we need to fix the vehicle issue....
This heating problem of transmission is there even in swift AMT transmission if stuck in bumper to bumper traffic for a longer time. Even the jeep compass petrol also has the same problem
DSG AMT both have these issues. But not torque converter or CVT.
Hello sir, can i consider a Hyundai dct. As i heard heating issue in b2b traffic.
Does the same issue go for Sonet 7-DCT? Any real-life experience pls? looking to buy sonet 7-dct for Delhi NCR, with daily running b/w delhi and gurgaon. Pls help!
HTC ivt mai creep function hai kya
can we use manual mode in b to b traffic
Well explained!
I’ve been critical to your reviews, if I don’t find substance in them.
But .. 👍🏻 for this video, as you have explained it decently well to the laymen, and that too fast.
Thank you Rishab, i Have seriously followed your videos and seriously depend on your videos and advice and reviews for buying a new car. When i m going to spent more than my budget for passion, i need to be cautious, believe me here i m dependent only on you. Secondly very big THANKS to the facebook post for DCT Kiaseltos Heating issue. So that later you came up with the explanation. And i wanted DCT for smooth Automatic gear drive drive. And i found you concluded with so many limitation about this vehicle. I want it for trafic, you said not good for traffic. i wanted for long drives you said a limit of 80 km. and so many limitations. i do not blame you. but thanks for your review that i saved Rs. 19 lac of Which I was to pay Loan Instalment every month, For seven years . for a faulty car OMG. Thanks a lot. My crase for KIA SELTOS DCT IS OVER. THANK YOU. (i would not had noticed on fb) my following yu helped.
Better buy Seltos diesel Torque converter automatic. Very reliable. Stay away from DSG/AMT. Even Seltos CVT /IVT will be very reliable.
Bhai want to see you I million soon.... You are so informative bro .....
Helpful information thanks bro
Bhai ji aap bahut achhi aur satik jankari dete hai
same issue with Hyundai Venue DCT version; heats in bumper to bumper traffic in Mumbai - You cant keep switching to N to D and vice versa in Mumbai traffic where traffic creep is a way of life
Hi want to buy Kia seltos petrol varient... Can u tell me if I should go with Kia or other company ? Basically need honest opinion about the services, parts availability, and safety also milage
The question is: even after having years of market, traffic & weather experience of India by Hyundai, on what recommendations & possibilities did they launch a DRY clutch DCT system for India? WET type could have solved these heating issues far better than the other one. Even increasing engine, gearbox & transmission life. Hyundai/KIA should replace those dry DCT to the wet type DCT system to avoid these issues in the future.
Sonet imt or dct which one is reliable & less maintenance cost
Superb video....nice way of presentation
Superb subject choose. Dear.
Nice explanation
why is hyundai/kia not giving CVT or TC type automatic for venue/sonet in petrol. I am interested in purchasing fully automatic and torque converter is only available in diesel variant. This is disappointing. Now i will have to either choose IMT(which is really good) or go with Nexon AMT.
Bhai MG Hector me bhi aisi bhot problem a rahi hai. Us pr bhi video bna kya sach hai.
Sir pls help on
Creta 1.5 iVT SX (o). Or
Creta 1.4 Turbo SX
Which one , 🤔. For city driving
Price are same
I also I same situation which to buy...
Very helpful info.... ,👍
According to me dct technology is really good for most of the part as it provides smooth and fast gearshifts and hassle free driving but when it comes to the cars of this price range the dct transmission is just too advanced and hard to get mastered at a budget. Another problem is its dry nature so I think these manufacturers for now should stick with torque converter autos as they are free of these issues and also cost effective. The Hyundai’s 6 speed auto is one of the best smooth and quick shifting transmissions in the market and good for most people. So I think manufacturers should stick with that only till they master dct technology at a cheaper price and without any issues☺️
Same warning comes in sonet imt ...in bumper traffic sir , what should we do sir
Helpful info 👍
Bro is it the same problem with Venue Dct and Rapid Dsg also.Coz i am planning to buy one for convenience and fun to drive nature of these gearboxes.Not planning Kia as it out of my budget.Should I go for manual petrols then OR not.
If you want a fun to drive car, you should definitely pick a car with DSG/DCT transmission. Its the most amazing car i have ever owned/driven.
@V K lol, dud you didn't get my message clearly, i never complained. I have only advised that DCT is not for people who want an automatic for city drive. Occasional city drive are fine but not strictly for city.
Very helpful video. Already booked GTX + DCT so now know what needs to be done in heavy traffic
Actually Now you know what Compromises you need to make when you are in the car driving. Always keep worried while you drive. sry dont take it hard, but we sail in same boat.
Hey vikash ..how is your driving experience now any issues or concerns ..as I want to buy DCT..pls help
thnq so much bro. You saved us during mountain trip. We didn't know about this before & your small tip of using parking mode instead of brakes helped us. Lots of thanks👍
I have booked for Kia Sonet GTX+ which runs on same DCT as Seltos and Venue. After knowing the DCT heating issue I am in a fix. I want to buy a compact SUV which drives well in b2b traffic as well as in highways. I wont consider myself as enthusiast but I love driving.
I am confused among the available choices - EcoSport AT/Nexon Diesel AMT/XUV300 AT/Venue or Sonet DCT.
Need suggestions.
Sonet Diesel torque converter
If one has to think so much before taking the car out and plan accordingly my god too much. Dct dct its not worth it.
Plus after spending 2 million rupees. You have to think so much. One day there will be traffic another day it will be a free road with lesser traffic. I guess there will be issues with these companies new to india. No doubt marutis n hondas n hyundais are a safer bet than these new entrants like this n mg etc.
@@incredibleindia4318 Hyundai Venue suffers from the same problem
@@incredibleindia4318 I agree with Case of Maruthi, But Kia and Hyundai both are same, Kia might be new to India but all over world everyone knows that both are Korean Government subsidiary companies and most of the spares and engines are of same and they share like we see in Vento and Rapid. (The Vags). You can see in future the new Hyundai Creta will be sharing all of these engines starting 2020
Thanxxx Rishabh Sir, Missed call dekh kar aapne saamne se contact kiya or Kia seltos 7 DCT ke mere saare doubts clear ho gaye....Thank you so much Sir aapse baat karke achha laga...🚘💐😃😃😃
Thanks for proper explanation
Sir,I have booked GTX Plus DCT. My use is mostly in city in bumfer to bumfer traffic ,some time at high way ,should I cancel DCT model due to heating Issue and go for GTX plus AT .kindly guide .
Its my opinion iam not a expert,
But, in DCT when u stop a car on traffic, gear should change on N Mode with Hand brake.
Most of people using D Mode with brake on traffice for long term, thats why i think problem come.
Ask to some better Car expert,
Best of Luck.
@@thesunalwaysshine..3929 That's not really an issue. The clutch will be disengaged automatically when you stop the car. You don't need to shift to N. When you keep moving forward slowly for a long time, the clutch is never fully engaged and it will continue to produce heat. There won't be enough time to stop in some situations. You'll just have to keep moving slowly. That's when the problem arises. Same is the case with AMT. But most cars don't have a temperature warning like this. You'll only know when something goes wrong.
Yeah. Go for the Torque converter automatic. It's a really smooth transmission even though it's not as fast as a DCT. If you want is a fun to drive car, DCT is better. But if you want reliability, go for the AT. Torque converter auto is basically maintenance free.
. Even if you have a manual and you keep pressing half clutch in bumper to bumper traffic with little pressure on accelerator in 1st gear . it will lead to over heating too. and wear & tear of clutch plate will be more. it's more of a driving sense i think. only rule to follow in all automatic engines = When the car is still in traffic, put on the neutral or the Parking else keep driving. DCT is more advance than regular AMT . so go ahead with your GTX Plus DCT its a good choice.
@@ArunArun-rv5bn ok
Bro why other options car having not such issue as kia
what about 1.5 IVT kia seltos???
please infrom infromation about IVT engine and 1.5 IVT response we should go for IVT for City use where trafic is more or lass...
please suggest me i already booked IVT
i dont think there should be any problem with IVT that like DCT. both the transmission are totally different. CVT and IVT are technically on same principles. CVT - Belt type and IVT works with chain (i may not be 100 % correct) . But the features you will not get as you get in GTX + Petrol/Diesal DCT. you will need to compromise to BOSE Speaker system, 360 deg camera, ventilated seats and ect. BUT you save money a good amount.
IVT is very reliable and fuel efficient. Trust me IVT is not as slow as some people say it is. Too much hearsay here. People badmouth it even without driving one. It only feels slow because it is just one big gear, just like an Activa scooter. And, heck Activa beats many motorcycles upto 70 kph.
Bhai Ford freestyle pr bhi video bna do
This problem does not happen in amt..
The similar complaint also came.in hyundai venue dct....
So I guess as the dct is same for venue and seltos there seems to be an innate drawback of the dct
I have never heard about this in dsg gearbox or automatic
i also book GTX+ DCT . this issue is serious or not. if i drive car in traffic with neutral mode at the time of stop, then also got this issue?
Actually Now you know what Compromises you need to make when you are in the car driving. Always keep worried while you drive. sry dont take it hard, but we sail in same boat.
Why should buy Kia seltos DCT if it has heating issue?
Now wat in Bengaluru traffic
After hearing DCT gear box heating issue does it makes sense to opt for diesel AT?
even I am rethinking on my sonet DCT booking.
Did you purchase diesel AT ? My daily drive would be 30 km and it doesn't makes to spend extra on diesel variant.
@@vaibhavgupta1171 you face this problem only during heavy bumper to bumper traffic for a long time (1-1.5 hours), apart from it it's good to consider dct/dsg. And save up on diesel varient. If you live in Bangalore or Mumbai or Delhi (heavy traffic cities) then go for diesel automatic (torque converter).
thanks for the video , i was planning to buy verna 1.0L turbo DCT , instead i will go for 1.5L CVT ... u cant avoind heavy bumper to bumper traffic in india ,no matter where u live ... and top of that hot and humid climate & bad roads ..
Hey bro please reply my question's answer " i live in hilly area and i want to buy Seltos GTX+ petrol DCT varient so i all ways drive 10 km minimum and 90 km maximum (sometimes) and you know there is no traffic in hilly area. And the weather is cool and should i buy DCT or AT?
If you are reading this don't tell my name in next video. And you are reading then just reply me.😊
And do weather effect you transmission temperature?
Example if your car is little heat and the weather is cold do the temperature work normal or it will start cooling and heat very slow.
Can DCT in kia seltos used for a road trip or for a drive in the mountains?
No issue . But kia is new to dct and they lag reliability
I have Audi q3 that has an DCT never had this issue in any automatic
Audi’s are superior bro. It has wet clutch so it will never have those issue. Rest of them has dey clutch so heating issue happens to them .
Hello bro can you please make a review about kia seltos KTX petrol
I am sure Rishabh bhai would the first to post the review as and when kia announce this variant
Awesome..... Bro
I have same problem as I have DCT VENUE transmission auto in jaaam of around 2 hrs I see my car transmission is high then I stop my car for 1 hour after that I drive
If there is any more suggestions please tell or make video
Shalini Pari When u are in traffic, shift the gear to P or N mode with handbrake if its more than 30 seconds. It will eliminate the transmission heat and make a sensible usage of gear box.
If dct is not good for bumper to bumper traffic and not even good for people travelling 80kms a day ? then what is the use of this dct transmission ? i was about to buy and i travel around 140+ kms a day, tired of manual gears and planning to move on with seltos gtx+ dct. So whats the stand ?? Moreover am using a Polo GT Tsi which is also a dry clutch transmission, Never had any such issues.
I think you should wait for them to resolve the issue, not worth taking a chance at all. TC, DSG & CVT do not have this problem
Best reply... Thanks a lot for the video...
@@realtimequickie Exactly
#Correct,
Jeep Compass DCT, been to Leh -Ladakh hilly side, its 1,000 /1,200 from Delhi.
That was succesful.
Who came up with the "You can't drive more than 100 kms" idea. 😂 That's stupid. You definitely can drive as long as you want. But crawling in traffic for 1 hour will definitely overheat the DCT. The clutch can't engage completely in that case. If you move continuously like that, the clutch will continue producing heat. It's not really a fault. AMT cars also have a dry clutch and same thing will happen. But how many of those cars have a transmission temperature display. ? You'll only know when something breaks. Having a warning is not a bad thing. A temperature warning doesn't mean the transmission is delicate. You can rip it. Drive hard and fast and it's not at all a problem. That's what the DCT is made for. But when crawling for 1 hour, you're just half clutching it the whole time.
I have just booked Kia Seltos petrol GT line DCT top end and delivery planned within approx 10 to 15 week. After seeing this video, I am very much concerned and confuse now. Should i cancel the DCT...!!
Kindly note: - My daily running approx 30-60km and in a six months I need to drive 800kg in single day...!!
Appreciate if you can advise and suggest the next course of action.
Kindly advise!! ....thx
Brother why this peoblem is not in skoda rapid nd octavia they both have dct transmission ???
Who said they dont have? Search google for DSG reliability and problems.
I had a Vento DSG.Once got stuck in the traffic for about 2 hrs. I couldn't complete that journey as the car started jerking and automatically slowing down.
Very good explanation - Thank you. But this is a stupid solution for the problem. You will face this problem driving in every Metro city in India, better not to buy DCT version of any manufacturer. It also beats the option of buying automatic instead of manual.
Even if you have a manual and you keep pressing half clutch in bumper to bumper traffic with little pressure on accelerator in 1st gear . it will lead to over heating too. and wear & tear of clutch plate will be more. it's more of the driving sense i think. only rule to follow in all automatic engines = When the car is still in traffic, put on the neutral or the Parking else keep driving. DCT is more advance than regular AMT .
The one major reason people opt for a AT or in this case the DCT is the convenience in bumper to bumper traffic. You cannot ask the driver to put it to Park everytime, kia will take time to settle in india.
Why this happens in DSG/DCT in bumper to bumper traffic? What happens in creap-mode which creates this issue?
This (the overheating issue) is due to the clutch engage and disengage continuously.
In drive ('D') mode, your transmission try to achieve the most economical gear state as quickly as it can. That is to reach higher gears as fast as it can.
In a bumper to bumper traffic, when you lift off from break, it will start in 1st gear and quickly shifts to gear 2. Now the mechatronic unit (the computer/brain part of this DSG/DCT system, which analyse the driving pattern and selects the next gear to be engaged) is trying to shift to 3rd, the next higher, gear. But now (due to the traffic) you have applied the brake and the system has to quickly disengage 2nd gear and shift back to 1st. There is lot of friction generated (especially in a dry clutch scenario) when you go back and forth from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 1st very frequently. More often, there can be many partial clutch engagement / disengagement (in manual world, we call it partial / half clutch) situations, which is bad for any transmission in all scenarios.
Do you know DSG has an upshift time of 8 millisecond? Yes 8 millisecond (and this number varies ( + / - ) on how advanced your DCT/DSG gearbox is).
Now think of those physical fly-wheels engaging and disengaging in 0.008 second for an hour (in this case). The system will overheat.
So what are the SOLUTIONs.
1a. Put your transmission in pure MANUAL ('M') mode (not the temporary manual mode using tiptronic padle-shifters under your steering wheel)
OR
1b. Put transmission into SPORTS ('S') mode.
Why?
In pure manual mode, up-shift happens when YOU decide. So it will never shift to 2nd gear automatically (while you creep).
Similarly in Sports mode, your 2nd gear will be selected only after a certain RPM (not very soon).
2. In Drive ('D') mode when you stop, always press firmly on break, so that your vehicle won't crawl. It should come to a complete stand still. Your gears will be completely disengaged when you apply a full break.
3. Put your car into Neutral ('N') mode when you are in a long wait. For short waits, you don't have to (put in 'N'), just apply brakes firmly so that you vehicle won't crawl. As I said, your gears will be disengaged completely. Take a look: th-cam.com/video/9xcyOJHUGk0/w-d-xo.html
PS: If you are 'N' then put back to 'D' mode at least 5 (to 10) seconds prior to move. But don't worry, this will automatically happen if you follow the below 4th rule.
4. Always (and always) make sure the vehicle in-front of you, moves some distance and then only move forward. This will make sure you have enough room/space to completely leave your brake and (if needed to be stopped) apply it back very gently. Don't (and never) try to crawl inch-by-inch behind the front vehicle as and when the traffic moves.
5. Another very important point (not related to traffic) is the MAINTENANCE. You need to do/provide regular, on-time maintenance and check-ups for this guy.
PS: many of the above points are valid to all the transmissions. The only thing is that, previously we never cared as long as the transmission withstood our abuses and suddenly, for the same abuse, DSG/DCT started complaining.
To conclude, DSG / DCT is a marvelous technology which has high potential and leaves you with a driving experience like no other. Remember this is a technology for race cars, where road conditions are totally different. Different manufacturers have now mellowed it down for general purposes. In modern times (when compared to the very early days) we are less pron to sudden/complete failures (until and unless you ignore all the warning signs). Once you make some changes to your driving style the DSG/DCT should be butter smooth and stays for a very long duration.
This problem still exists or they have solved it?
After watching this video I am more than happy with my Tiago AMT 😀. Felt sorry for the guy who is facing this issue but the whole purpose of purchasing automatic is hassle free drive. KIA has to rectify this issue.
My friend had a same issue..
If you leave gap others will overtake you in traffic and you will be in the same place😀
Torque converter automatic is better for traffic driving as there is no clutch and is a maintenance free system no matter how much you creep in the car's lifetime. DCT has many parts. The clutches need replacement every once in a while. And it has many electronic components which if they fail are expensive to replace. Less moving + mating parts = less headache
TC is the best.
Thank You.
Ye kya baat hui, then why purchase DCT in any metro cities..??
Wet dct vs dry dct par video danado sir
You need to change your driving habits:
Press the full brake in traffic and release the brake completely when moving.
Use the brake like a regular clutch (analogy)
All automatic cars face the problem , VW DSG etc. but they do not have a sensor to guide you with the transmission temperature hence u do not come to know about the issue.
Kia DCT is amazing and if you have apprehension buy a MT.
Also, the person who posted that complaint hasn't faced that issue further as he has adapted to the guidelines of a DCT.
Hahaa.... VW DSG is more advaced sequential transmission than regular dct gearbox.... It does have a transmission sensor. But it's engineered properly so that under normal driving conditions it won't fail until driven like a maniac.
We want Seltos HTK Petrol review
Nice cover up video.. my skoda dsg never gave such issues even though I drive through Bangalore traffic for last 5 years for more than 3 hours a day on an average. Vw group should have spent enough money on dsg testing and made changes accordingly unlike Kia. Those who really needs a car similar to seltos can wait for Skoda karoq
Same thing with my vento bro, I think enough brake pressure is not applied to disengage clutch when put in drive causing clutch slip and heat
DSG gearbox from VW never had this problem
It’s based on wet clutch assembly, you are right.
Hi, I have booked Kia Seltos GTX Plus DCT variant with delivery by mid April. Should I go ahead with it or cancel? Would appreciate your suggestions as I got confused after reading all th negative stuff here.
Note: my daily commute will be in heavy morning evening traffic in Bangalore. :)
Bhai manual me le le
Bhai GTX+ Diesel AT book kar Diya :)
Thanks for your suggestion👍
@@jagbirbhati3851 OK congratulations
The main reason is, it is the dry dct
So weirded in all the earlier reviews you always said DCT is amazing it’s the best
Now you are criticising DCT .
What’s good about DCT please let us know that too .
Bro, this issue is with IMT also I keep facing this issue in bumper to bumper drive. I’m having Sonet IMT Turbo 😔
IMT doesn't have heating issue, tell me what's happening with you?
@@TheCarGuide Hi Bro, good morning. Whatever heating issue you told exactly happened for my car Sonet IMT Turbo, I stay in Bangalore & I visited hometown Coorg while coming back it was late night was stuck in Bidadi highway in bumper to bumper traffic because 6 lane road construction going on between Bangalore to Mysore. I was getting notifications transmissions heating stop vehicle & it was raining heavy too much traffic couldn’t park. Later found petrol bunk & parked , it was frequently happening usually I used to reach 9:30 that day I reached 12 night. Also I was saw couple Turbo Venue car were parked due to heating issue on same day. Coorg is hilly station & while driving uphill with high acceleration same heating issue. Also not happy with Turbo 1 ltr engine take time to generate power difficult in driving hilly station. At least they could have given 1.2 ltr Turbo or IMT without Turbo with 1.2 Ltr. Finally my suggestion don’t go for 1.0Ltr Turbo 😊
Bengaluru traffic horrible
Wt would be condition in Bengaluru
Rishab you were real quick on the issue.
Mere bhai i like your videos lekin
Aap batao itni math lagani zaruri hai kya itne paise kharch karke ki kaise chalani chahie aur kaise nahi,are yaar driving test chal raha hai kya, sabse badhia hai torque convertor
#Kiaindia #kiaseltos #kiakorea is your dct engine is not good enough to drive in a b2b traffic ? Neither its good enough to drive 80-100 kms a day mix of highway and city ? This is a very serious question before anyone go ahead for a GTX DCT Version.
It is absolutely safe to drive as long as you want and can. Even if you have a manual and you keep pressing half clutch in bumper to bumper traffic with little pressure on accelerator in 1st gear . it will lead to over heating too. and wear & tear of clutch plate will be more. it's more of a driving sense i think. only rule to follow in all automatic engines = When the car is still in traffic, put on the neutral or the Parking else keep driving. DCT is more advance than regular AMT . so go ahead with your GTX Plus DCT its a good choice.
Dct mein paise na dubao, badhia dct sports cars mein hota hai, race karni hai ya daily driver chahie
that's why honda did "torque-converter DCT" in their car
Yes.
@@TheCarGuide Hone did Torque converter CVT and not DCT
Guru DCT is speciallly for traffic and city where is bumper to bumper Trafic, agar ishme wo comfortable nehi hay to i can say it is useless to buy...
DCT is not at all designed for traffic or slowly moving forward. It's a sporty and fast transmission. Why do you think VW's DCT had problems. It's because people don't know what they're buying. A dry clutch will overheat when it can't be fully engaged and continue rubbing each other for a long time. It's not a fault. It's just a warning. AMT will have the same problem, but most of those AMT cars don't even have a warning. You'll only know when something breaks.
@@ArunArun-rv5bn hey I booked a DCT last week. My average km p.day would around 30-40 kms. Do you think I should consider going for a diesel automatic instead?
@@abhishekmalakar1 If that 30-40km is all inside city and includes heavy stop and go traffic, go with the diesel AT. Not because of the diesel engine or fuel expenses, just because of the transmission. Diesel AT won't be much more economical than the petrol DCT as the ARAI mileage is just 18 km/l. The 6 speed auto performs really good in the city. It's only when you go for an overtake at higher speeds, it lacks that direct feel. But in the city, the torque converter auto is perfect. But if you don't have regular bumper to bumper traffic, petrol DCT is the right choice as it has more performance and better performing gearbox when overtaking, driving fast etc.
So In the automatic Diesel to increase performance we can shift to the manual mode when we drive on the highway will that help ?? And also kia comes with BS6, will there be a problem if we used BS4 Diesel fuel as BS6 fuel is only be available from April
@@abhishekmalakar1 The gearbox itself is not slow in terms of shift time. It's really seemless in shifts. But since there's only one D mode, you'll have to get used to the car and modulate the throttle input to get it to shift as you want. Sometimes it shifts down too aggressively and sometimes it doesn't. But it can be ok after getting used to the behavior of the gearbox. And manual mode will certainly help to shift exactly like you want. The main difference I felt compared to a dct is that it holds the gear longer even on light inputs while DCT just breezes through gears faster.
And BS4 fuel technically will have some bad effects on the car. It's not the engine, the exhaust system is the one that will have to work harder when using BS4 fuel in a BS6 car. But it shouldn't be a big issue if it's just for some months. From what I've read, using BS6 fuel in BS4 cars is more of a problem as BS6 diesel don't have the lubrication properties of BS4 diesel.
Hi
The statement you have does not make sense at all. I do agree on the creep part that if car is idle it's better to keep the gear in neutral. If it's specific for buyers who don't drive much kms, then DCT technology is useless. Any automatic transmission is for ease of use in traffic or highway no matter how much is the running of vehicle.
It's true the Seltos owner had a problem with his DCT AT ,,, but it's neither his fault nor the an actual problem with the vehicle.
We in India are just being introduced to automatic transmission vehicles ,, they are becoming a necessity due to heavy traffic. Being newly introduced to it, two things need to be considered by auto vehicle manufacturers -
A. Educate those new drivers switching from manual transmission to automatic about the AT system and driving technic and
B. Build cars and transmissions to suit the Indian road, traffic and driving conditions / style
Imt me bhi yahi problem he what petrol me
What are you saying.....
1. Not for regular city drive
2. Not for bumper to bumper traffic
3. Not for slow moving traffic where you brake very often
On what basis have you drawn these conclusions??
I had planned to book the GTX plus dct tomorrow. I will show this video to KIA and you may need to justify your comments.
True..i have the same question in mind, he is just saying anything.
Please post what reply did you get. This will be helpful for other buyers.
Why don't these dealers tell this while selling the car?