Kishotenketsu: East Asia's Formulaic Secret To Unique Stories | 4 act story arc
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
- If you haven't heard of this structure before, you absolutely MUST watch this video. From the beautiful narrative of Your Name, to the harsh but thrilling stories of Squid Game and Parasite, East Asian stories and starting to hit mainstream media in the United States, where they are held up to our Western writing tools and then deemed groundbreaking innovations for the way they break outside our boxes. Alas, we are using the wrong rulers and the wrong boxes, and just as our media is built on the 3 act structure, and the hero's journey, Anime and East Asian films are built on a structure of their own: Kishotenketsu.
But most people don't know that, so if you're a media fan, you can wow them with the revelation, and if you're a writer, you can use this structure to hand a Western audience something that feels like nothing they've ever experienced.
This structure is perfectly suited for Cinema, parallels heavy stories, character studies, and deep explorations of bias and grey morality just to name a few.
Please note this will include Your Name spoilers, but all other media will be used in spoiler free contexts.
**Chapters**
00:00 - Intro
00:38 - Kishotenketsu Basics
02:14 - Beat by Beat
02:20 - Ki
03:46 - Sho
04:35 - Ten
08:17 - Ketsu
09:40 How It's Split Up
12:03 - A Structure W/O Conflict
13:59 - Stories Best Suited to Kishotenketsu
15:30 - Conclusion
**Citations and Sources**
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**Media referenced in this video**
- Attack on Titan
- Parasite
- A Silent Voice
- A Whisker Away
- Kiki's Delivery Service
- Death Note
And a few others. For a comprehensive list you can check out the bibliography linked above.
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Wow this video explained so much! I always wondered why certain East Asian movies and shows just felt ~off~ to my brain from a story structure aspect (regardless of how much I loved the story!), but having this structure explained helped it all make sense. Thanks Megan!
You are so very welcome, and thank you for watching and commenting! I was the exact same and researching this was so eye-opening.
There's a lot to think about. Especially because kishotenketsu is such a versatile structure. I can definitely see how it's used in level design.
I fully agree. It's really hard to analyze because it can be looked at in so many different contexts and have so many different results.
I always had a hard time breaking down Japanese and Korean films. Finally answers to my questions. 😭
It really is eye opening watching East Asian media now. I see it everywhere.
Ah! I've never seen anybody talk about this. 起承転結 is my life. I am aspiring manga artist and I go to a school for manga and we talk about it all the time. It's important and useful for manga because of binding. Chapter lengths are usually based on the number 4, 16, 24, 32, 52 are usually the length of most. And even the pages itself, whenever I outline a page I divide the page into 4 and I try to make everything fit 起承転結.
However I am missing a lot with this structure. My endings always suck, or it is not as well structured as you'd think. It's useful but I feel like knowing a variety of structure is better.
I won a comic contest and got praise for my following 起承転結. But I actually used Dan Harmon's story circle 🙃 (also peeps in Japan use Dan Harmon's story circle and Save the Cat)
You explained it so well! ♥
But I think there's a lot lacking in 起承転結 just like with the 3 act structure. I'm still struggling a lot with clarity but I'm getting there (just got feedback on my last manga I got 15th place on and all the feedback was positive just that the setting was too complicated. If anyone has any advice how to write a short story that isn't complicated I'd really appreciate it. 起承転結 isn't enough for me)
Edit: Sorry for the extremely long post. Just wanted to add that the pronunciation is more kiSHO-tenketsu because the 承 is actually shou. Just in case anybody wants to talk to somebody in Japan about this. I remember talking to my editor over the phone giving me tips about 起承転結 and not understanding what she said cause I had been pronouncing it wrong.
Congrats on the contest! It's funny they assumed you used Kishotenketsu despite using story circle because I think that really highlights the universal aspect of story. I think structures are, at their core, just a way to better visualize story. And so the right structure for a story is actually just whatever structure the writer pairs best with.
I can relate though. I love the different feel and focus of Kishotenketsu, but for me it's just too simplified (much like the 3 act structure). I am great with ideas but terrible with pacing, so having a very complex structure helps me. I actually use a fusion between Save the Cat and the Hero's Journey, I hope to post a video about it soon. But it has a TON of steps because that just works better for me. So I think it's important for writers to learn all the structures and even slice and dice them where needed.
Thank you for the long post! I love your enthusiasm and it's so nice to get a comment like this from someone more immersed in the culture and fictional space this structure came from. I was really nervous tackling a subject so far outside my common space, but seeing so few videos of it I decided to give it a go. I'm so happy to hear I was able to do the topic some justice.
Also thank you for the pronunciation note! I have 0 language skills outside of English and Spanish
@@godlessyurifan Actually maybe it's only good if you have no idea what you're doing but recently I've been following Craig Mazin's idea of Central Dramatic Argument that there is one big argument, main character has the argument they always follow, another character shows them an opposite argument, they end up choosing the opposite argument by the end. It helps a lot more with coming up with new stronger stories and gives me more space for emotions.
I just hand copied the script of stranger things season 3 episode 8 to figure out structure and tbh I could vaguely put in the story circle or save the cat, but it seemed like they knew the tools so well that the structure followed a simple structure where the rhythm and movement was decided by character emotion and not structure.
But yeah, if you aren't familiar with them try them out and see what helps you and what doesn't but don't follow them so strictly tgat you lose the heart.
@@karakurie Hey, congratulations on winning the comic contest! What is the name of your mangas? Any place we could check them out?
Cool to see people are finding about this structure. In the case of Attack on Titan, Kishotenketsu is easier to be understood as a whole, being the basement reveal the "Ten" of the story. It seems to have been used in some arcs like the next example which are
SPOILERS FOR ATTACK ON TITAN SEASON 1:
Ki/Introduction: Once upon a time, titans killed Eren´s mom.
Sho/Development: So Eren became a soldier and tried to kill all the titans.
Ten/Twist: But Eren died and a fighting titan that attacked other titans appeared.
Ketsu/Conclusion: Until finally, the titan saved them all and Eren emerged alive from it.
I agree the example works better looking at it as a whole, but alas, it's much safer to cover season 1 spoilers than to cover up through the not-yet-released content. Your summary is spot on, though. I actually outlined and wrote out a full coverage of Kishotenketsu in season 1, but I think I had to cut it in post (I can't remember). The full script for it is on my Patreon though.
Tbf attack on Titan is also similar to the 3 Act story structure because it's full of conflict and ep 1 where Eren's mum is eaten is the inciting incident followed up by the plot point.
The inciting incident will push the protagonist outside their comfort zone in this case Eren is shoved outside his comfort zone because he has lost his home, his mum and the place he grown up.
He enters an unfamiliar situation because of it and the first plot point is when he want to become a soldier to fight against the titans.
The moment when Eren is eaten is also the pinch point as it challenges the protagonists beliefs. At the start he believes that humanity is strong enough to fight back against the titans and he is shown the truth when his whole squared are all dead.
@@bluedragon1181 All stories with a beginning, middle and end are going to fit the aristotellian 3 act structure. Now, the convencional use of 3 acts on western storytelling is akin to what of Lord Of The Rings did: The goal was to destroy the ring and it ended when it was destroyed, being the middle the journey to get there. If attack on titan followed that formula, then the end would have been all titans getting eliminated. But because there is a huge twist with the basement reveal, the goal of the story changes 180 degrees, which is why season 4 feels almost like a new story.
Things like inciting incident and pintch points are extraneous to the structure as all structured can have them. Same with conflict.
I don't know about Eren being eaten being a moment where the character changes his mind, as he "dies" saying he cannot die there and doesn't give up not even being "digested", which leads to his transformation.
@@Manu-vm4wb Pinch point don't have to change a character's belief it just have to challenge their belief and it's up to them if they decide to change or not. In a flat character Arc the pinch point will challenge the characters belief but they will not change while in a positive change arc the character will change and the pinch point is there to make sure the transformation does not seem sudden and forced (Like Gabi's horrible character arc)
Also the basement reveal can also be done in 3 Act Structure if the story is a series then a surprise ending or done at the midpoint as a major plot twist. Kishotenketsu isn't the only story structure with a plot twist in the middle that change and shift the character's goals, beliefs and their view of the world.
I'd say attack on Titan is closer to 3 Act Structure than Kishotenketsu because of all the conflicts shown. The internal conflict of Eren before the wall fall (desire Vs fear) their conflict with the titans (external conflict) and finally the conflict of their beliefs (such as the different beliefs Zeke and Eren hold) which is the philosophical conflict.
I think it's more like
Ki/Introduction: In a world where humans live in fear of titans behind huge walls, Eren wanted to be a soldier to take revenge for his family against titans
Sho/Development: Finally joining the corps, Eren develop friendships and camaraderie with his fellow teammates where the mortality rate is ridiculously high
Ten/Twist: Eren, who hated titans, ends up becoming an actual titan himself but somehow retain his conscious mind and can shapeshift back to human form
Ketsu/Conclusion: Eren decided to use his newfound titan powers to help humanity from extinction
This was so good thank you! I’m a writer that’s trying to plot a novel using a combo of this structure + the save the cat structure, I think you mentioning at the end that this style moreso works when there’s less of an emphasis on “personified” conflict or character arcs was helpful because that’s LITERALLY the issue I’ve been having. Thanks for doing all the research.
You are so very welcome, and thank you for watching and commenting. Fusing this with save the cat sounds really neat! I write with a fushion of Save the Cat and the Hero's Journey and am a full believer that the best narrative structure is a personalized / blended narrative structure.
What's the save the cat structure?
@@tivednagol9127 copied from a website (hope this helps):
What is the Save the Cat method?
The title originates from Blake's screenwriting book, in which he tells screenwriters that if you have an unlikeable hero on your hands, you've gotta do something early on in the story to get the audience on the hero's side. The hero has to “save a cat” (like from a tree or a burning building, or a shelter).Aug 24, 2022
This may or may not help, but the ketsu in kishoutenketsu is a homophone of the word for ass... which comes at the end. The ass end is ketsu 😅
Thank you for discussing this, and doing it so well. As a horror writer, this style of writing is actually so much more impactful, so become vital to my work :-)
Found this video while doing research for my own content about ki-sho-ten-ketsu (for a manga blog), and it's quite wonderful! I like the music and editing and obligatory SMA clips (I studied those a lot to learn how do manga for their contests). Thank you!
Even if I had to spoil the movie for myself with this video xD
I called this structure as the four-act order of sequence. Philippines was heavily influenced by employing the use of western narrative structure aka the story mountain. I prefer using Kishōtenketsu which relies mostly in a cause-and-effect narrative order which tends to make me more creative in coming up with a story. I'm advocating the use of this plot structure which I believe is more appropriate for Asian narratives.
Hey your analysis of these topics is SUPER GOOD! I think you captured some key insights into kishotenketsu such as the fact that it focuses on the change in the audience! I think analysis is your SUPERPOWER! I will definitely be supporting this month to access the rest of your notes!
Wow, thank you so much for this comment, it made my day! I had so much fun learning about Kishotenketsu for the video and I'm just so happy I can share what I learned
I've never heard of this before! Thank you for explaining it so well!
You are so very welcome
As a newbie who just recently entered the world of writing artistry, there are many methods known to many writers out there, but I really like featuring the snowflake method (it will later then expand into many branches) and the three-act-structure (similar to Kishotenketsu) to plot my novel, although before beginning the snowflake part, I recommend you guys to check out Glenn Gers's 6 essential question for story writing which guides you from scratch if you do not have any idea what you're gonna write
Oh wow this is awesome! I had a feeling stories from East Asia followed their own story beat, I just didn't know what ♥❤💙💚💛💜🖤
As a Korean I was first like what does Kishotenketsu mean but then I realized it’s just the Japanese reading of 기승전결
In Korean it’s ‘Gi seung jeon gyeol’
Yeah, my script lists out both the Chinese and Korean names, but while I found lots of clips of Japanese people pronouncing Kishotenketsu within English videos, I couldn't I couldn't find the same for the Korean and Chinese versions. And since "Kishotenketsu" is the most widely recognized and searched version, that's the title I went with. I do regret not showing text versions of the titles on screen though, so thank you for listing it out here for others to find.
@@CloudKitten Such a kind and thoughtful response, thank you. The Japanese name is the most familiar to a Western audience so no worries there!
I feel like the "Twist" ends up changing our view of what we've already seen. I guess when I tried to describe Anime and Manga to someone, I said that they focus more on introspection if anything (whether in the form of symbolism, actions, or just thoughts.) The twist of these movies, shows, and Mangas seems to want to challenge how we've been viewing their world and/or characters. At least that's how I'm interpreting it?
Good to see you back.
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Thank you! I have my sacrifices at the ready, hopefully the going rate for an algorithm blessing hasn't changed in my absence.
This is probably the best analysis of this structure I've been able to find. I'd argue that some western stories/novels with a clear plot-heavy midpoint reversal fall into this structure---Donna Tartt's The Secret History comes to mind. We see the twist coming ahead of time, which is different than the twist being a surprise, but it does solve for the "slow start" by creating dramatic tension.
I'd love to see some analysis on this at a nested level---like a Ki-Shou-Ten_(ki-shou-ten-ketsu)-Ketsu type of structure!
This helped solidify this plot structure for me. So many notes and it's helping me wrap my head around my plot issues with my own story.
Also, brings sense to the reason Attack On Titan was confusing to me.
If you're into story structures, you should check out this playlist (th-cam.com/play/PLa7kNT8drSDRB2jA4PbdYw1h_2aYTQKiK.html ) because I have approximately 5 billion videos on them.
And if you're into East Asian storytelling make sure to subscribe because the original script of this video was 45 minutes long and was sliced into this, a video on Western Storytelling vs East Asian, and a video on Parasite, the latter two of which I'll be covering soon.
PS: Sorry I've been so absent, I've been dealing with some major behind-the-scenes struggles and am just now finding my footing again. But I'll be working on some smaller projects to catch up, so drop a comment if there are any tropes or smaller topics that you'd like to see me dive into!
This was super helpful
I study movie structure in college and I DON'T GET THIS TOPIC! WHAT? THIS IS SO AMAZING!?!
Do more Asian. Do breakdown of every element. 🛑😍😍😍
I actually had to break down the original script of this video into pieces, so in the near future you can look forward to a video covering more broadly what makes East Asian stories feel so different from Western stories, as well as a separate video on how Parasite uses Kishotenketsu in extra clever ways that add effect to the core message.
This story structure is actually why great classic trilogy movies like Star Wars worked while the prequels and sequels fall flat. While it is a trilogy of movies the structure of the original Star Wars closely resemble the four part structure of kishotenketsu albeit not divided into equal parts. We can surmise that A New Hope is where most of the 'ki' takes place while the 'sho' occupy about 80% of Empire Strikes Back. The 'ten' comes in the reveal that Darth Vader is actually Luke's long thought deceased father which makes everything that the protagonist believed in up to that point came crumbling down. The 'ketsu' takes place almost exclusively in Return of The Jedi where Luke had to reconcile what he believed in and what he knows now and came to the conclusion that he needs to save and redeem his father.
Now, compare that to the sequel trilogy and the kishotenketsu doesn't apply there. We don't have much clarity on how the three movies supposed to work together because there weren't any clear progression of the story, no huge twist in the third act that throws a wrench to the protagonists' status quo in a big way that it causes chaos which needs to be resolved in the last act. So Luke turned out to be a has been, Kylo Ren turned evil because Luke wanted to kill him before he turned evil, yadda yadda yadda, but the ending of The Last Jedi simply revert the story back to the status quo. So understandably Rise of Skywalker had to scramble up a new plot from the beginning and put the big twist at the very end, which resulted in an awfully disjointed trilogy of movies that leave you unsatisfied but exhausted to even care anymore.
Fast forward to 2023 and the Spider-Verse trilogy seem set to reprise the same success of the original Star Wars by actually using this kishotenketsu technique again. We have this great first movie that draws new audiences in and the second one immediately pulls out a twist that shatters Miles Morales' world right in the middle of the movie and from there it never lets up. Now the stakes are ridiculously high and we are left hugely anticipating for the final act. So yeah, I'd say kishotenketsu works and a lot of great western fiction stories is in fact as successful as they are today because they actually used the technique without even calling it that.
In defense of the prequels. They are seperate yet interconnected stories. They don't follow one overarching journey until Revenge of the Sith which does use "Kishotenketsu" by having the twist be the climax. Phantom Menace also adheres to it by having the twist be that she would be betrayed by politicians because her enemies are briding them. As for AOTC, I'm not entirely sure. It could be when Obi-Wan makes his sudden discovery and is captured.
Very engaging personality. Thank you for the effort. I’m a biblical scholar trying to find the kishotenketzu plot structures in biblical narratives to reinterpret them for non western audiences.
Thank you so much! Also that's really cool application of Kishotenketsu. I've had very little exposure to biblical myth but I bet there's a lot of really neat narrative structure within it. And using Kishotenketsu to analyze it is something I've never seen done before.
@@CloudKitten Oh wow, the bible is a narratological treasure trove! I am having a great time thinking outside the box while reading it. Check out the Gospel of John and read it as a narrative. It's super exciting.
Interesting, would love to hear what you find :)
Funnily enough, wrestling also tells stories like this in their matches (the good matches at least)
- Ki - Introduction on ring walk
- Sho - The wrestlers set the tone for the match
- Ten - The twist appears any number of ways: a false finish, a betrayal, an interference, the ref is knocked out, a weapon is turned on its user, etc
- Ketsu - the aftermath of the twist which results in the end of the match, win, lose, or draw.
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Something interesting about attack on Titan
The author of the manga has been super closely integrated with the production of the anime since it started. In one interview he even said that he views the anime as the finished product.
I'm not saying that the anime follow kishotenketsu, but I don't think anything was lost in the transcription to anime.
I really appreciated your analysis on this unique 4 act story structure. I have just started my own deep dive into BL Manga, specifically re: 'Our Dining Table'. I have become obsessed with breaking down the "live action" story telling techniques used in the series. Do you have any suggestions to where I could find shooting scripts for live action adaptations of BL Manga?
For me the 3 act structure and kishotenketsu can be analyze and overlap with each other. And i think that is what happen to Your Name, where eastern and western viewers can get together very well. Instead of kishotenketsu, this is how i see Your Name with Blake Synder beat sheet.
Opening image : Dark night sky with falling star
Theme Stated : Musubi
Set up : Characters, kuchikamizake, katawaredoki, etc etc
Catalyst : They found out their switching place, and this problem should be solve
Debate : Consistently breaking each other rules
Break into two : They adapt the situation where they always breaking the rules
B story : They immerse and develop feelings with each other lives and surrounding and characters
Fun and games : Taki miserable date and Mitsuha make fun of him
Midpoint : Taki try to contact Mitsuha but fail
Bad guys close in : There was no physical bad guy, but the situation is bad, they never switch places again
All is lost : Taki discover Mitsuha is dead
Dark knight of the soul : Are those memories just a dream? They were not dream since Taki found the shrine
Break into three : Taki pray to Musubi to give him chance, and wake up as Mitsuha again the day before the comet strike
Finale/mission1 (to save everyone)
Gathering the team : Taki/Mitsuha Tessie and Sayaka
Execute the plan : To evacuate everyone
High tower surprise : Sayaka was caught for fake broadcast, and the townhall make new broadcast to stop the evacuation
Dig deep down : Mitsuha father is the last resort
Execute new plan : Mitsuha persuade her father, Tessie and Sayaka warns everyone when they see the falling star
Finale/mission 2 (to not forget their names)
Gathering the team : Mitsuha and Taki meets at the mountain
Executing the plan : Write each other names on hand
High tower surprise : For Taki, is when katawaredoki finished, Mitsuha just dissappear and he cant remember Mitsuha's name. And for Mitsuha is when she opened her hand and found out its not a name, so she also cant remember Taki's name
Dig deep down : The feeling they know someone but dont know who is he/she, until they look at each other on the different train
Execute new plan : They look for each other and finally succeed
Closing image : Clear bright sky
"Audience retention does not like 45 minute videos" oh we must hang out on totally different versions of TH-cam then. All of my most watched and most re-watched videos are between 30 minutes to 4 hours long
What? I love 45 minute videos!
I've seen quite a few people talk about Kishotenketsu, and all I've seen them talk about are anime and games. You'd think that Kishotenketsu was invented in the 1990s. There's very little acknowledgement of the roots of this structure within Zen and Chan Buddhist poetry.
The best examples to use on TH-cam are pieces of media the viewer already knows, hence why everyone uses pop culture examples
I'v watched a lot of east Asian media since middles school (at times, exclusively). Now that I'm studying creative writing, I noticed that they don't exactly follow what I've learned. On the other side, I understand better why western shows and movies can feel off or boring.
For memorize the name:
Ki: key
Sho: show
Ten: number ten
Ketsu: ketchup
:)
got inspired by the video. also, where's the music from?
Greetings from korea 🇰🇷 ❤😊
The act 3 twist is sort of comparable to the 3 act structure’s Midpoint twist
It really is. Funny enough many of the diagrams of the 3 act structure that include a midpoint twist have the acts spaced out such that splitting them equally makes 4 acts and looks nearly identical to Kishotenketsu. I'd say someone copied notes, but both structures appear to date back as far as the common era.
13:13 counterargument: Your Name has an antagonist (Mitsuha's father) and an opposing force (The fate of the town)
i can't come to patreon but i can watch a 45 minutes video even 4.5 hours!
Wow. Just what the doctor ordered. Asian 🙏🙏🙏🙏
As much as I like anime and manga life is change. People change so regardless of the story structure characters need an arc.
Despite growing up with anime and manga, which I find immensely entertaining, I've always struggled with their seemingly loose/awkward narrative structure (and their characterization. Westerns are depicted so weirdly in animes). It can feel unfamiliar compared to the more structured storytelling we see in the 'Greek theater' model. However, I recognize this is just my own perception of their inferiority, and anime and manga are not inherently inferior. They simply offer a different approach to storytelling.
Kindly please share some academic books on Kishotenketsu structure. Please 🙏
I know this is old, but can you compare with examples of western stories with obvious difference with the Jishotenketsu? It’ll really help!
😮 0:56 i love making 4komas! I noticed this pattern. I read azumanga dioh, 4koma comic!
Onto the rest of the video.
Edit: 👏 definitely was gonna this exact structure in my webtoon. 😂
With this knowledge I can plot it out better
What is the ending song? It's pretty hard to hear the lyrics to do a search.
It's Believing in You by Cacti feat Frigga. I found it on Epidemic Sound and I don't think it's super well known though it is super vibe. My intro bit is from the same song.
@@CloudKitten Thank you so much!
In Taiwan we call it 起承轉合 cǐ-chéng-jhuǎn-hé
if anyone have some recommendations on non anime films that uses kishotenketsu, it would be highly appreciated😌
I wonder if this structure wouldn't be good for videogames too. On the other hand, many japanese rpg games are criticized for being "a slow start".
That is, by far, the greatest struggle of Kishotenketsu is the slow start. In western audiences we've been so thoroughly trained to expect immediate calls to action and promise of plot that stories that don't kick off right away often get put down.
But on the other hand, a little tweaking for video games and Ki could make a rather good Tutorial section. Come to think of it... I bet you could find a similar structure in many open world games, though with some focal differences. For example, in Horizon games there is usually a big tutorial start where you are slightly confined, follow by a build up toward a percieved main plot point which ends in a midpoint twist which changes plot direction for the final half (and often changes character perception of herself quite strongly).
I don't think it would work well for all games, but I think open world ones where there isn't a singular story line could probably work really well with this. You've peaked my interest, I'll have to look into this further.
@@CloudKitten Will admit, found this idea in an Tabletop RPG discussion where the GM was asking for help as players were getting sidetracked on unimportant things and the GM wanted help with handling it. The presented it as a way to help cut down the amount of development the player needed to do:
1: Introduction: Give a problem, situation, scene, whatever to the player. You need to prepare it obviusly.
2: Development: Let the players do whatever they want. No really need to prepare anything.
3: Twist: Hit them with a twist. Twist is totally independent of the players, so their actions in development don't disturb it.
4:Conclusion: Look what your players do and laugh.
And as for the Western Audiences, it depends on the genre. There is 'slice of life' or 'soap opera' style stories, where we are more watching the characters and their adventures for the sake of their tale. A lot of popular ones usually are comedy shows like How I Met Your Mother, Big Bang Theory, Seinfeld and Friends, Soap Opera shows, some kids shows like the Baymax spin off from Big Hero 6 was about Baymax treating various medical issues around the city or the inner-city kids show Hey Arnold! was a lot of that.
Not going to disagree, anime does have a larger selection of it and generally does it better than Western Animation, a lot of it being the reason you mention, we are trained with an interest curve of 'big starting scene to grab our attention as a teaser before the title card or as an opener just after the title card' so that we either are engaged in the story of the week's episode or are pumped up enough to follow the week's episode until the next action spike comes'.
I wonder if the Father Brown stories can Benefit from Kishotenketsu
so is WALL-E kishotenketsu-structured ?
You know, it's been a while since I watched it, but now that you mention it, it very well could be. I can't remember timing, but there is a strong view shift, and it doesn't fit into the hero's journey. I did use it as an example in my 3 act structure video, but because the second act of the 3 act structure usually takes up 1/2 of a film, that doesn't make it incompatable with Kishotenketsu. Good catch!
I'll have to give it another watch sometime and keep an eye out
Still don't understand this :/
Ketsu - Ketchup hahaha
Lmao I don't know how to relate this to story but I like it nonetheless
Lol the Western view of things is a little over exaggerated, but love the video.
Ketsu = Ketchup
What makes the HJ a thing is that (Western, apparently) audiences expect it. Use this structure in a work for Western audiences and expect a whole lot of bad reviews.
Ah, so that's why I lose interest on 90 percent of every anime I start.
It's the "Ki" part that always kills me.
I mean I lose interest in 90 percent of anime because they look silly but I get hooked on most Manga I start to read because of how beautiful the panels looks and how relaxing the process of reading them feels even if the stories themselves are quite unsettling.
I think for novels this structure works well but for films not so much.
Even the RPG I played as a kid combined the hero's journey with this formula. So I'm kind of use to both.
Sorry for the nit pick, but: prevalent is pronounced preh-vuh-lent.
This is just a basic four act structure. This isn't revolutionary nor is it specific to East Asia. It's just basic storytelling.
hey hear me out, story structures are created by non writers. Writers dont care about the structure they just write, anyone that relies on a structure is like riding a bycicle with training wheel.s
Only five minutes in so far on this one, and...damn! Currently praising the algorithm, because your work is 🤌 (that was the closest emoji I could find to that thing media has me believe italians used to do when something was brilliant {now thinking I should probably go check that, because I now probably sound as ignorant westerner as they come, but whatever...your videos are fantastic)