Especially at the war arc, it was said that Kakashi couldn't use much chakra for having the Sharingan active all the time, in the war they completely ignored that
At Naruto gave everyone on his side extra Chakra to buff them because they were out of Chakra. Kakashi was fighting close to Naruto so yeah him and Guy recieved more Chakra than everyone else. Boruto is where Chakra has no meaning the kids can spam Jutsu with no limits while Sasuke is always out of Chakra and everyone from previous generation have forgotten how to fight.
@@diogenesnascimento6433 back when chidori was introduced, Kakashi said it could only be used twice before his chakra became empty. And three times if someone wants to be borderline dead.
@@asandax6 oh man but like. He gave what thousands on ninja a full tank of chakra? Because he was born special? And this was before he got another free upgrade from his ghost dad and his 9 pets or whatever. Lmao Damn remember when the show used to be about working hard to move up in life?
I would like to add that you can separate combat systems into 3 categories; creativity, power and strategy based systems.... also world trigger has a great systems 👍
@@Joanbueller007 most good series do...but im talking about what the series combat is centered around...Hunter x hunter has a bunch of strategy but I would say it's based on creativity
The reason why haki is a good assistant system is because ANYONE can awaken it, not “a handful”. That gives anyone a chance to stand against devil fruits toe-to-toe.
It helps too that each haki is awakened differently Conqueror’s Is Birth Armament Is Intensive Training Observation Is Via Intense Battle moments All need to be trained and mastered in their own different and unique ways
I agree, most good series has two power systems. One that the 1% has and is often due to luck, bloodline etc (devil fruits, kekkei genkai, cursed technique, Stands). These powers strength can be justified due to the rarity of them. And then the powers which 100% can learn (Haki, Chakra, Cursed energy, Hamon), comparativly this power must be trained, but can eclipse the 1% system with hard work. There are of couse exceptions. Good exception: Hunter x Hunter, where everyone CAN learn nen (100% power system), but only the 1% get really good at it. HxH doesnt need a secondary power system. Bad exception: My Hero Academia, A power system using the basis of the 1% system where the quirk you get is dependant on luck/at birth but is accesible to (almost) everyone as a 100% system. MHA in my opinion desperatly needs a secondary power system so people not born with a good quirk can still be strong. For example, martial arts or technology. But it seems that wont happen, so imo MHAs power system is pretty bad.
@@FeelixW MHA is supposed to have a secondary power system. It’s called Charles Atlas Superpower. It means a character can train to gain Superman levels of strength and speed. The problem with MHA hardly anyone takes advantage of it. Endeavor’s power is fire and only fire. The strength and toughness he shows is all hard work. Stain’s quirk is just licking blood. It doesn’t affect his speed yet apparently he’s faster than quirks that grant super speed.
8:44 I disagree with you on this. Naruto has never established how much chakra someone has or how much chakra different jutsus consume. In fact, characters only run out of chakra when it's a plot convenience to make the situation more dangerous.
I disagree with you there. The measure of a charcater's chakra has always been pretty consistent in terms of its portrayal. It does not need a definite number for you to be able to clearly tell who has more chakra than who, which can be shown through statements, and feats, which is what they normally do.
One Piece is also up there it's very straightforward and anyone can learn Haki but not Conquerors since these are people born to have the ability to be rulers. And it's an amazing way of being able to counter the OP Devil Fruits
What I like about jojo's system is that the reader is given knowledge of what a character's stand can do and what it's boundaries are so when a character fights an enemy it's exciting to see what they will do with their stand to overcome the obstacle. A great example of this is Josuke vs Yuya
Some times the power is too complicated and we are given to much information on how it works and it just kills the action (dragons dream) or not enough and are left to wonder what the fuck it can actually do (golden experience/ger)
@@jinglejangle1533 I think it’s just Araki’s weird portrayals of powers. I find most Stands’ abilities simple: it does one thing, has a specific activation clause and several limits, like Gold Experience whose abilities require directly touching stuffs. But Araki loves his expositions.
Myh biggest pet peeve is when shounen has their strongest characters on-screen and present at all times. they always elevate the power level randomly, instead of establishing them early on in the series like HxH, One Piece, and JJK
Yeah I clearly remember when Meruem was established early on in the series instead of coming out of a womb in the last arc being stronger than 99 percent of Hunter without any training
Haki took over 10 years to be included into OP power system so how is OP not doing just that especially with characters like big mom and kaido which are literally DBZ level villains if not stronger
@@churchhide haki was forshadowed for years before its "proper" introduction,the level of power that big mom and kaido have was established to be possible through people that are in a similar level in power like mihalk,whitebeard and the admirals (they are not as powerfull as dbz villans they can literally destroy planets you are exagerating)
I like the Naruto power system tbh, it’s prob my favourite. I know it’s kinda generic but I like how if you work enough you can become very strong and I like the different bloodline abilities. But there are some problems with it as you said
@@funnyV1890 That's why it's bs. A person suddenly gains power for absolutely no reason other than being stabbed by some arrow. Shit like destroying universes (does the author even know how much energy it would take to destroy a planet? let alone a universe lmao), parallel dimensions(no fking logical explanation on hows and whys except cuz the author said so),and time stopping (another bullshit,the only way for someone to stop time is if they can move at lightspeed, or if they could stop the movement of particles at quantum level) are utterly illogical. I really don't like stories that lacked logic.
This is EXACTLY what I needed-one of my biggest bugbears is balancing Magic and Psychic power to avoid redundancy, and working with the various types of magic power.
Psychic powers are usually tied to physics laws, as they developed in science fiction A common differentiation is that psychic powers can use, empower, negate, or invert cause and effect in a specific physic law, while magic can break those laws E.G. Psychic: accelerate time to ripen a fruit Magic: inject vitality on the fruit to ripen it Psychic: see the future by calculating probability Magic: see the future by prophecy Psychic: move an object by injecting kinetic energy on it Magic move an object by making an invisible hand to grab it
have any of y'all ever heard about the the toaru series? it's about a secret giant magic society (filled with magicians, sorcerers, witches and even some gods), entering in conflict with a scientific city (and their espers and scientists), the anime adaptation is kinda trash after season one, the spin-offs are a little better but they only approach the science side. I would recommend trying to give the light novel a chance
@@lavellelee5734 maybe a few like martial arts (the crazy cultivation chinese novel types/db), magic, science (psychic) and so on so forth. I mean just look at it from here we got the supernatural path where you got those holy/light, dark/death, life or creation manipulation etc. Maybe even supernatural creatures/beasts. We got the tech (sci fi and all that) and biological engineering or my fav changing the biochemistry (maybe a clever drug or something like the nzt). In some areas u got cyborg (bloodshot) and non organic (robotic/virtual world). A lot of stuff to it and maybe we'll create other systems outside of these (but most likely not).
Early naruto: hand seals and chakra control is important, and techniques like Haku's one handed hand seal formation is deemed impressive, since it leaves another hand free to do other things in combat. Naruto later on: people can blow up whole villages with their eyes and make giant Stands come out of them
@@D_Owo the thing is that we were already told what the ceiling was (For example Kakashi was supposed to be one of the most powerful jounin, and the hokage battle at the end of the chuunin tournament arc) but the author goes “well actually I lied to you” and gives everyone a dbz amp from nothing. It makes no sense considering how kakashi has been training his entire adult life, and yet a couple years from the zabuza arc to the war arc are enough for his chakra supply and power to grow exponentially
@@D_Owo no, that's what's called too much power creeping. Shippuden goes from 0 to 100 in no time when it comes to the power creeping. In one arc they're fighting with strategies and managing chakra and in the next they're throwing out atomic bombs like it's candy.
The most important aspect of this is probably the limitations. I find stories more hard hitting when the characters are legitimately vulnerable and you know they can't just get out of devastating situations with some sudden power up or surprise new technics seemingly coming out of nowhere.
Good rule of thumb: The more the reader knows of the power and it’s limitation: the more you can use powers to solve problems. The opposite is also true. If your viewers don’t know the limits of a power: any problem solved with it will feel cheap.
I know Demon Slayer is bad about flashbacks but it's explained early on with it being your body trying to find a way to save itself (Tanjiro v Rui, Muichiro v Gyokko) but it's Breathing system is fairly balanced. In the end, they're still able to barely keep up with their enemies. BDAs are broken on the other hand
4:11 bruh this point with demon slayer is what a lot of people seem to misunderstand and I'm glad you didn't fall into this pit. the demon slayers don't actually control/make elements like producing water/generating lighting. they are just fighting in a way that sort of mimics said element and the elements showing up are just for artistic/visual representation. it's just for flair
@@VeenanNorvius "want to agree with the author" 💀THEY MADE THE STORY. You can't tell the author what they said. If they said it's not actual elements then it is not actual elements.
@@cavvaldiv5536 The Author can't be wrong since they made the story 😭what are y'all on about? That's like the Author stating Sanemi is the 2nd strongest hashira and y'all say no he's the strongest hashira.
Jojo's power scaling is fair. It's literally based on your spiritual desire or RNG. Like for example abbacchio! Mood blues is the embodiment of his will to reveal the truth , since he wanted nothing more when being a policeman .
It’s also deeply personal and serves as a reflection of the character’s ambitions, regrets, dreams and fears. Moody Blues is about replaying past events, comparable to obsessive thinking and rumination. Abacchio lives with the guilt of his partner’s death hanging over his head, it’s very fitting that this is his power. The power of Stands, much like Nen, can tell us a lot about the character’s personality
Except some Stands completely shit on others. There's no way in hell Hermit Purple is defeating King Crimson or Made in Heaven. EDIT: shit. I didn’t know RNG meant “random number generator”. Lmao. My bad
I like overpowered characters as long as they are well written and given justifiable reasoning. For example, Saitama, Gojo, Gilgamesh, Kenpachi, Madara, Sung Jinwoo. I think overpoweredness loses its charm when its reasoning is "power of the main character, or moving plot forward"
Very true!! Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts! I feel like I always see the "power of the main character" problem in isekai stories. Like the actual plot becomes irrelevant and it becomes a braindead slice of life harem usually. If that's what they wanted to write they didn't need to set it in fantasy world with powers LOL
Ya, and my god when you actually see a truly overpowered character die, that shit just hits so much harder than anything else. It goes against everything your expect and just has such a stronger impact. "Unless they do it terribly, like in Madara's case or Fear in SoulEater.... SoulEater is not as well known but let me tell you, that is without a doubt the most dissapointing OP character to Death you'll ever experience." @@foxiepix5164
For some reason I am fine with the fact Sung Jinwoo is strong as hell even though he is really not that different than other manhwa main characters who are more or less broken Something about Solo Leveling feels acceptable to me, maybe the fact it actually has an ending? Maybe the fact they don't spend 100 chapters talking about a whole load of the most boring arcs that don't really do anything? Or maybe the pacing? I think it may be all of it, specially the pacing, manhwas these days around are boring as hell, they introduce the mc and his overpowered ability, then they start something about family lines or some whole insanely boring nonsense rather than showing more cool action
This one continues to feel like a chicken and the egg situation to me.... Are Isekai flooded with dumb OP protagonist, or are seasonal anime just flooded with so many isekais that it just becomes a lot. Because I think a lot of Isekai MCs are actually pretty well-made and even justified in power or it works for their world... equally though, I think there's just such an abundance of isekai that it's very easy to pick out many generic craps. Idk if it's the different though to let's say the Shōnen era of the 2010s where every Shounen was more or less the same too. "Kid, insert tragic background, insert special curse/power within, insert power system, insert mentor character, insert plot wist power justification."@@MonitorComics
Honestly, Hunter x Hunter was my favorite in sense of the power system, it was cool seeing the training Gon and Killua went through to achieve nen, and I'm glad they didn't have the power instantly at the start of the anime/manga, and they had to learn it. What hxh did amazingly was the character interactions, how most of the characters we see at the start go out in their seperate ways, and we see them again later on, and I liked the interactions with Gon and Hisoka, how he let Gon go and get stronger so he could fight him later on, while he was getting stronger as well, and the power scaling is well done, yeah it easily has the best power system I know of in anime
What is particularly impressive is that Gon and Killua are extremely talented and strong, but even with intensive training they are still not ready to be in HxH world. Just shows how high the ceiling is and how dangerous it is to be there, as even MC is not even close to being the strongest, unlike some series.
You know we have never seen anyone blow up a universe in DBZ except for Zeno but he is like Uber god. Everyone else just says that they can blow up galaxies but I think they are all capping
@@REDandBLUEandORANGE SSG Goku and Beerus nearly blew up an entire universe with just punches alone in Battle of Gods arc, and they were both holding back.
if it is good, explain to me how luffy won against mochi after losing 5 times to him. it is good on the surface, everthing else made up. akainu and aokiji fight for days, others settle it in minutes...hu
My power system is called Aura and Divinity Aura being the manifestation of obscene human ability meaning physical strength in any aspect or even pushing the spectrum of what a normal human can do. This includes all 5 senses. For example if you base the amount of aura you have in eye sight and leg muscles you can either see further or see on a different wavelength (depending on the amount of aura or control of it) and you’d be able to run faster or jump higher etc again depending on the amount or control of aura. Fully body aura exists which means you can up your physical strength completely but the best use of aura is Mastered aura which includes the 5 senses as well as full body aura so you become a being of immense physical prowess and physical knowledge. Divinity is the powers that are borrowed from the gods. Too much divinity can kill a being that isn’t classified as a god or divine being. Demi gods can handle more divinity since it is naturally instilled but the more aura you have the more divinity you can handle. Divinity depends on the god you may be in contract with meaning if your goddess was the ice god khione you’d have some control over ice and other abilities the god may have. Aura and divinity used in tandem and mastery over each could make a human a living catastrophe. Aura breaking: A cursed move leading directly to death. This bolsters every physical aspect (not the 5 senses tho) to the max in exchange for the burning of the soul. Usually used as a last resort for those making a last stand. This is all for my manga The Advent Of Thunder. If you have any questions about the story or power system please contact me on instgram dawn_platinum_
My favorite power systems are jojo stands and jujutsu (from jujutsu kaisen). Stands are a very cool concept, where the stand is as strong as users mentality and will. Jujutsu is also very cool with neat things like domain expansions and random crits (black flashes)
Isn’t the Jjk power system dependent on inherent chance tho? Like gojo said it’s 80% inherent. Only leaving a small % for personal growth. And unlike hxh contracts one can not do the same with heavenly restrictions as you are born with them.
@@esseymicheal8541 you can make contracts with cursed energy and you can still become extremely strong even without a special bloodline as stated and shown by Sukuna
i wanna make a power sytem that allows characters to have unique abiliteis and be diverse but also ballenced, mha had the diversity part but not the balenced part
MHA not being balanced is a part of its story, literally in the first page of the manga you see "not all men are created equal". It's COMPLETELY intentional and makes the story make sense in multiple ways.
it all depends, you could make gods and laws that forbid and allow certain things, or create litrpg or game system with classes and aversions (e.g. FATE's servant, elemental magic with many sub-powers, etc).
@@taterds7858 yeah, imagine, if you get character development your stand gets a power up or a new ability without the need of getting stabbed by the arrow again, i love the stand acts
Jujutsu Kaisens power system is my absolute favourite. The idea of domain expansions, barriers, simple domains, reversed cursed energy and reverse techniques!?? I love it!!! I also love how to become a strong sorcerer, one must have a open mindset, capable of change and adaptability. However, the learning curve of Jujutsu Sorcerers also relies on being able to take risk and not be afraid to put yourself in deathly situations. I absolutely love the idea of a power system that relies on the users mentality. However, we also see that some of the strongest sorcerers are also selfish like what Ryuk was talking about to Yuta after their fight. Ones own potential is brung out by their mindset, mentality, selfishness or/and willingness to take risk. That's how you bring out your potential as a jujutsu sorcerer. However, when it comes to actually executing your power in a battle, "the skill of a sorcerer can be judged based on their ability to use prerequisites like hand signs or incantations in order to fully activate their technique"
Power systems in anime/manga are always interesting to learn about, I used to watch anime so I could get tips on how to apply how their power systems worked to my own (I’m not writing a Shounen series anymore so…R.I.P., but I still liked them regardless). My favorite power system is from Hunter x Hunter, it’s a really well thought out and (kinda) complicated power system imo.
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@@D_Owo you know what, i kind of agree with you now. I think the things that make fights in one piece is great is the story behind how much the fights mean, Oda is a master story writer no doubt. And i still think Devil Fruits and Haki are a cool and original fighting systems. But regards to best fights One Piece fights arent as good as Hunter x Hunter or JoJo because there are never any clever strategies going on and is usually the most boring part of One Piece.
i mean sayians have a lot of potential, which is why they are alot stronger than humans, but dont forget the fact that yamcha became stronger than perfect cell, who was literally solar system level. We also have to consider the fact that he is the weakest human z fighter, and the fact that krillin is the strongest human to exist in their universe. Its safe to say that the thing works out (kinda) and humans can actually rival most aliens.
@@xAdrianHGx they are only as strong as past villains, who themselfs cant hold a candle to the current main characters, no matter how much stronger yamcha or krillin are now theyl always be compared to god goku or whatever new form vegeta has, and theyl look week and phatetic in comparison, its like putting a revolver next to a nuke, yes a revolver can kill a man just as easily but itl look like nothing compared to the city busting bomb its next to
I always loved Bleach's variety of not only abilities, but the power sources themselves. While all powers stem from spirtual power, each race uses it differently, making it so each race has their own unique magic system. Soul Reapers focus on soul cultivation to develop their various abilities, chief among them being their Kido spells and Zanpakuto. Hollows essentially focus on body cultivation by eating souls to literally evolve and Quincies focus on energy cultivation so to better absorb and manipulate the spirit particles (reishi) in the air around them. Then you have hybrids races like Fullbringers, Arrancar and Vizards who combine different aspects of the 3 races in their own ways. It's so complex yet interwoven that it forms this fascinating and beautiful tapestry of a magic system.
A good example too is Agni from Fire punch. (Not shonen tho) His main power is Regeneration, seems generic and quite boring but Tatsuki Fujimoto spiced it up by adding inextinguishable flame that has been inflicted to Agni. He should've burned to death but because of his recovery speed, he was able to not die and utilize his flaming body to burn his enemies.
The Law of Ueki if a fairly underrated anime and manga that has a very good power system - every combatant in it has the power to turn "something" into "something" - for example, turning trash into trees, towels into iron, discs into sawblades, etc, which allows for many fun and interesting fights because of the genius simplicity of the rules, while also giving birth to some very interesting and fun powers - the power to turn stupid puns into reality, the power to turn models into real objects, the power to turn 1 second into 10 seconds, etc. Its a quite short anime and manga series but its worth going through - especially the anime, since it has some godly animation - even though its quite old, its still gold. Heh.
@@geschnitztekiste4111 I think he means a cap for how powerful characters can get In some anime/manga it’s established early how powerful someone can ultimately get but in DB they just keep introducing new characters that are always stronger than the last even if the last characters were already supposed to be the strongest
Wow, this was really helpful! I'm currently working on writing my own manga called Arizona, and this really helped me with the power system: Psychic Energy. Basically, before the events of the story, an organization called the Marble Foundation experimented on young human children in an attempt to create a youth with the power to restore life to the dying Earth. This results in characters with psychic powers. All people who can harness Psychic Energy have access to basic powers like limited telekinesis and mind reading, which can be trained to become more powerful and gain more powers, like inducing hallucinations or telepathy. However, characters can also gain a new psychic power that manifests through a character's Awakening, which occurs when a character experiences immense mental trauma, the kind that would break most people, and is able to regain composure. These powers can manifest as anything from conjuring fire to duplicating objects. However, as psychic powers are tied to the character's mind, it also relies heavily on emotional strength and one's ability to remain calm under pressure. A character's Psychic Energy actually gets weaker the more stressed or insecure a character becomes. I actually took inspiration from Stands in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure when building this. The main characters don't necessarily get stronger throughout the series, as every battle relies on finding creative uses for one's powers and exploiting weaknesses. For example, Phoenix Arizona (the main character) may use his fire powers to create an aura of blistering heat to exhaust an opponent until they collapse, or a character may use telekinesis to set up a trap to distract an opponent, only for them to attack in some completely different and unexpected way! I understand that this power system is by no means perfect, and I am open to suggestions. Either way, I hope that you enjoy seeing what can be done with Psychic Energy when I finally release Arizona!
I would add that you should always try to balance physical prowess and more supernatural powers that encourage out of the box thinking. Let’s take Part 5 of JoJo for example. Giorno’s Gold Experience is a very VERY versatile power but is constantly shown as getting beat when in straight up 1v1 fist fights which forces Giorno to use Gold Experience in creative ways. This parallels the main villain who (slight spoilers btw) has an extremely physically powerful stand with an ability that is strong but extremely simple which we can see as a genuine downside since he gets outsmarted fairly often but he remains as a threat because we see just how strong his stand can be when his opponent fails to strategize effectively or when their strategies just can’t outweigh the sheer amount of force his stand can put out
I immediately scrolled away from this comment as soon as you said "let's take part 5 of Jojo for example." There was no point of writing a long comment to summarize a part of the story and the characters powers.
@@patricklewis9787 Yes but that was due to bucciratti 1000 iq with undoing silver chariot requiems ability thus giving girono the chance to get the requiem form of golden experience it isn’t as simple as you said.
@@patricklewis9787 People need to realize that the requiem power was earned through there teamwork and strategy, it’s like a capture the flag game and whoever captures the arrow first wins, they used there strategy and teamwork to get thay arrow and died for it. If you view it like that, it isn’t a deus ex machina at all! It was completely earned and justified in universe and was very satisfying. It’s satisfying in a way that you have to watch the full series to understand how truly great this is and how much work went into finally defeating the boss. As an isolated incident just showing it to someone it’ll look like an ass-pull and a deus ex machina, when it’s not.
Power system idea: if you conquer your greatest fear conpletly you gain a power relted to the fear. The limts and ablitys come simply from how you interpret the ablity and its limts
Woah that sounds awesome! It’s kinda similar to my power system idea, although rather from fear, it’s related to stress. And their ability is in relation to a moment in their life that caused them to feel the greatest amount of stress in their life (e.g. heartbreak/relative dying/having a panic attack etc…). The conditions and limits are also formed from how they interpret their stress too. I like the sound of your idea though, very simple and effective!
The elemental powers might not be real, but “It’s not magic they just breathe real good” starts to fall apart when human characters develop things like X-ray vision, turning a blade red by squeezing real hard, and manifesting spontaneous tattoos that burn lifespan for power up
That is true! When I made that point I was mostly referring to the elemental part, like I don't believe water is actually appearing The Demons DO have powers that appear in the physical world though, same with the crests and sword color like you said
Another thing I would like to add is that power systems should be related to the themes or plot of the story. Jojo does this very well, like when Koichi gets more acts as the story progresses. Another anime that does this well is Black Clover. The utilization of grimoires allows for a unique magic system, in which training does not effect how much spells you get, only how good they are. New spells are gained by character development. For example, when Gauche starts caring for others. He uses mirror magic, and he could teleport using mirrors, shoot beams of light using mirrors, and clone himself. Once he realized that he needs to work with others, he gains a new spell that is the ability to clone other people. Power systems may be a part of the story, but if they reflect the themes of the story, that makes it even better.
there is a hidden power system explored in OPM that every living being has a limit-cap Saitama is an example of breaking his limiter. And theres another character who does the same but thats not animated yet.
One interesting note is that because of the nature for OP characters, they can actually work as villains. If your hero is super powerful and never sees the consequences, it can become frustrating and boring. If your villain is this way however, it can serve to fuel the audience's rage towards them.
One thing I want to say is that OPM deserves a special mention since its powers are very diverse there is no system for particular powers but a threat level to measure them all. Same for MHA but it basically just says you have superpowers since you are born. Like no radiation no special serum no experimentation you were just born with it.
@@asandax6 Honestly the Power System is pretty much just genetic enhancements, pure training, machinery, pure desire turning into a monster, alien biology, natural born powers and being given powers by "God". So it's very comic book like since there is no define power system and are just powers.
@@eduardopantoja9115 I think that OPM is better that way because having different powers and explanations along with a variety of colourful characters is much better than typical shounen or seinen storylines where there are last minute power ups. But it's not completely unrelated as the disaster levels are an amazing standard to measure powers.
the power system in Mha turned to shit when Deku got multiple quirks. At first, the idea of the Younger generation's quirks being much stronger and more complex than the Older generation was so unique I loved it. But then you have Deku who is just a hero in TRAINING s beating up pro villains like Overhaul, Muscular, Stain, etc. Deku basically beat up villains without much effort and even if his arms gets torned up, the recovery girl easily heals it without any consequences. The Power System in Mha is shit and that is based on objective facts.
If one day my time comes to create a manga and hope it gets animated,( I have the skills to create a story but I can only draw stickmen) I have created the setting and my power system. Here's how it goes: everyone is normal on planet earth until God decides that humanity should make a new start and wants to make more interesting but he doesn't have anything going on for humans but suddenly he gets the striking idea to transport everyone in a new world exactly like our own while also giving everyone powers but he doesn't know what powers to assign to everyone, so he proceeds to find a good reference for powers that humans could utilize. Thus he sees videogames and decides that they have enough powers for everyone. He chooses a world that was clear of human presence for 25 years leaving everything in state of flora and fauna having covered everything and all metal structures having rust on them. The main cast has a number of interesting abilities with the protagonist having the ability to turn into metal making the user super heavy and insanely durable resisting most attacks from slashes to piercing attacks and kinetic attacks but with a weakness to electricity and magnetism. This ability of his also allows him to expand into a perfect sphere of the same height as himself but that only activates with a certain amount of speed and offers as all powers special "gifts" essentially small perks such as this ability having the sub-abilty infinite stamina giving him well, infinite stamina. He also choses two other abilities to compensate for his poor mobility those being Flash a basic teleportation ability that teleports him around in a 20m radious and Vector Arrows which allows him to place large black arrows on any surface and even below him with those arrows being able to propel anything towards the direction they point at. The thing is both of these abilities come from videogames that need stamina for them to work and that is countered by the metal ability's infinite stamina perk allowing him to spam both powers continuously and he can even put his metal and vector arrows abilities in an interesting combination by basically turning into the metal sphere form and continuously placing two arrows in front of each other basically creating an infinite railway where he can move as a giant metal sphere. Basically he is strong but not the strongest by any means easily falling under the " I'm weak as a protagonist but I can get stronger and I have plot armour" trope. He's teammates include a guy who creates soundwaves with different colours based on different musical instruments and melodies being the flashiest one around (Tengen style) and one of the strongest there are but he is limited because he is not the protagonist. There's his other teammate who has kinetic green flames and utilizes his Taekwondo skills for devastating kicks. Opinions on my power system and world??? Note that this might be something I will be focusing later on my life and I don't want anyone to copy this for their own personal gain. Thanks you.
I am thinking of trying something new - a battle shounen... Without supernatural powers. Imagine a shounen focused on HEMA / historical fencing taking inspiration from three musketeers. The protagonist is blamed by his community for his father's dishonor, and as such embarks on a quest to restore it, with his mastery of destreza serving as the tool. He will face criminals, other diestro, crazed alchemists and occult conspiracies, but at the end of the day he is always just a man with his rapier.
That sounds a fun read and i hope you go with the idea. Only thing you need to worry is the sword techniques being too grand. Power ups should be simple things like better footwork or learning how to parry a single attack not like a sword that fires laser beams that destroys mountains.
A battle shonen without supernatural powers? Kengan ashura does something similar. The only supernatural power I think is the speeding of blood the protagonist does but even that comes with extreme drawbacks.
I think what makes nen the truly great power system is the concept of the specialist because it is basically the biggest “have your cake and eat it too”. For those who don’t know nen abilities are divided into 6 distinct types or what they can do/use it for and specialist boils down to any power that doesn’t fit into the other groups. It basically means the author has perfectly found a way to bring in a power that doesn’t align with the power systems rules without it feeling like a cheat or make no sense by giving an internal reason for it. It is honestly one of the smartest choices for a power systems because then they can create any cool or unique power that pops into their head without it breaking the in universe rules
Yeah, Specialization makes room for some of the most memorable abilities in the whole series. But you know the complexity creep is real when the best fight in the series has flow charts XD
I also wanted to add that One Piece introduces a couple of martial arts that can be used in conjunction with Devil Fruits and Haki, such as: Rokushiki, Fishman Karate, Hasshoken, and all the different sword styles. Martial arts add a lot to both realism and interest, because it makes a lot of sense that in a world where people have super powers, they'd come up with fighting styles to either compensate or enhance their power.
My all time favorite power system in any series is in One Piece. You have devil fruits which can range from being pretty useless (axolotl fruit) to being op. Even then, creativity plays a huge part in the power. Katakuri for example has a pretty mediocre fruit, turning into a rice cake, but his creativity and his Haki make it monstrous. Then you got haki. Haki is accessible to literally anyone but mastering them and making them stronger takes a lot of training and each haki has different ways to train and improve them.
I love Gash Bell's spell system they have two systems: elements, and spell type: spells that ends with -ga: beam shaped and has piercing properties spells that start with Ganzu: rapid small projectiles spells that start with Shirudo: shield spell spells that end with -ruku: self-buff spell every demon has their own element, in the case of the protagonist, lightning all his versions of the spell type have to do with lightning, with his "ruku" (self buff) letting him move as fast as lightning everyone's element is different, but sometimes they share spell structure, and even with said similarities, the spell casting effects can end up VERY different example: Gash's Ganzu spell gives him six separate barrels that shoots fat lightning orbs Wonrei, a demon whose power is melee combat, his Ganzu spell is making his fists punch so rapidly it can fire off waves from each blow another demon's ganzu spell is shooting rapidly from one source point Demons dont always learn all the spell types and then some demons are better at some than others, and some LIVE by specifically only one spell type too example: Ted only has "-ruku" spells, that means he only has self-buff spells, but he has like 5 versions the fun part of the manga is to find out how many spell types are the SAME yet how different and unique they are to to their OWN ELEMENTS.
@@ignited8119 I don't think you've watched a lot of (non-mainstream) anime. Nen is complex for the way it works (different types do different things and you can use them in different ways) but the effects it produces are pretty standards. Use your nen --> Produce a standard power OR Use your nen with restrictions --> Produce a standard power boosted up in a directly proportional way to the limit you applied. But, for example, if you produce electricity with nen, it remains electricity even if boosted up. If you watch some really good power system like A Certain Magical Index, electricity isn't just electricity: if you can calculate more variables, you can use that power in a more precise way. You can manipulate electricity? Then you can produce a lightning, manipulate electric field (because it's generated by an electric charge), manipulate magnetic field (because it's generated by an electric field), manipulate every kind of magnetic force (attracting every kind of material), use magnetic field on a electrically charged item to produce a Lorentz Force and then a Railgun, manipulate every electrical signal in an electronic device to hack him or every electrical signal produced by each neuron (synapse) in your own brain to resist mental manipulation. And the fact is that God Speed in Hxh is one of the most complex powers, while Electromaster powers in A Certain Magical Index aren't even so rare. Vector manipulation is a power that can control every single vector quantity in the universe, so every single physical phenomenon and so a power that can work in billions of different variables. Dark Matter can produce a substance that doesn't exist in the universe and can have every kind of feature, also characteristics that don't exist in the universe and can't be studied. HxH is a good power system in mainstream works, but pretty bland if we consider every kind of manga. You can't compare a manga with limited ways to use a power (HxH) to other works where there are infinite variables only limited by your imagination and calculation ability.
It's about your typical teenager going on an adventure but adding my taste to it but my character goes through political problems, yokai beast which is mainly the problem, majority of them represent pure evil and humans as well.
This is a very helpful video, not planning to write any Manga. But the story I am currently brainstorming "Break of Dawn" (the title is still loose) definitely plays on Shonen themes. The general idea being that after centuries of constant warfare with vampires fairies have been dwindled down from a massive 500,000 to approximately only 2,000. In this series farries are not distinguishable from humans in any obvious way, but generally are more athletic, intellectual, and far better off.. The main conflict is that Vampires (still sticking to the original vampire archetype) want to collect enough faerie(intentionally spelled wrong)blood in order gain complete immunity from the sun. The more pure the fairie blood the better. I am still working on in what manner the blood is then utilized to give all vampires complete immunity. Another thing worthy of note I that even an ounce of fairie blood can be drank to last up to a complete 3 hours in sunlight , however a vampire can only take so much or the pure magical power would simply be too much. Essentially acting as an over dose. The power scaling comes in with the fairies themselves. Their power is drawn from the innate magic Within themselves, this being only present in faeries, this power not yet known where it originated(aka in working on that part). This allows them to manipulate their own energies similar to the ki system in dragon ball. As well as certain faerie families having specialized ways in which this power is used.
Thank you for taking the time to share! I definitely need to check Toriko out! I only read the first chapter MANY years ago, but looks like it's time to catch up!
@OocSNKZ It’s really simple but effective. It’s essentially like Dragon Ball Z and power levels but if they actually continued using that concept to measure power. In Toriko they have “Capture Levels” for ingredients or beasts. And depending on how difficult it is to attain the ingredients or capture the beasts the higher their capture levels. You might think that the power scaling system so far is just really basic but the manga really shows you how to tell apart low capture level beasts from those who higher capture levels. For example low capture level beasts would be something like large snakes who shoot acids with a capture level around 20-25 or so. But when we move up the scale to a beast with a capture level that’s much higher like 6,000-7,000 they are capable of some crazy ass shit. For example there was one beast so powerful that he was able to perfectly cut a giant mountain and throw it across the ocean and make it skip until it’s reduced to a mere pebble. But yea hope that helps.
I made a power system were when a person has a specific attachment or emotional bond with an object they gain an ability related to that bond. Although there are also some people who gained abilities from bonds with other things like a mind control ability born from a fascination with factory’s that controls anyone who thinks the user can make their life better, or a powerful reality warping ability born from the user isolation with their thoughts that lets the user control reality for a certain time, but after they finish everything they made disappears but the effect remains(ex. They fire a missile and blow up a house, the missile disappears but the house is dust)
@@elmendelasarten8365 heres one for free idioms are power such as Its raining cats and dogs- summoms cats or dogs Im feeling under the weather- can manipulate the weather on the ground Curiousity killed the cat- can alter peoples memories and can turn into a partial cat.
True! One Punch Man is an exception to most things haha. It does many things well that probably shouldn't work in theory. Thank you for taking the time to check out this video and leave a comment!
I cant really complain with the power scaling, or even the fact that saitama is just mad overpowered, because of how good it was, honestly, but true, I like it as well
I see OPM as parody show. A goofy show, that i can meme about and have fun watching. At least , show does not feel boring, other characrer makes show pretty interesting.
Naruto's chakra system was good until 1: inconsistent asspulls (Kakashi, battle on the bridge) and 2: when every antagonist or plot-relevant entity bypassed the system for "strongs sake". I actually still like tbe system- it just has no use anymore because of the writing
Naruto's power system is as consistent as JoJo's until the war arc. Although the explaination was because Naruto was giving out the 9 Tails Chakra like candy to everyone and the enemy was using its own tailed beast Chakra. Now as for Boruto well let's say it's not Naruto.
Hearing this is just what I needed, I don’t draw cause I suck but I like to write about my characters but never gave them a real story, just tying them together by chance for example my minor character only gets talked about cause I needed a backstory for one of my main characters
@@nickmccauley8009 I'm still in the very first chapter I don't think it's the best but sure I'll share abit So there's an ogre named Ronan who wants to rule is own landmark(landmarks are giant buildings that are villages for people to live that greatly change the surrounding area) In the begining he has just exited a dungeon and gained a conquer weapon wich allows the user to create a weather condition for there lands to be in a eternal place. He's been in there for 5 years There's other way of using conquer and atm I don't have a solid place for conquers to have come from but I've already got the types and such Enhancement (you can cover yourslef or objects in any type of metal)(you need to be calm to use it) Split(you can mess around with air particales I have not written a split user but there mainly gonna use elements)(need to be scared to use it) Out burst ( you create explosion around any thing and the explosion can have vairing effect changing form user to user) (can only use when mad) And that's it at the moment I don't have all the rules written down but I know all of them
With Diversity in Power, I think of Fire Force. A series where all the powers are based off of fire in some way, but each character does it in a different way making it interesting.
I love that when you talk about limitations, you show kakashi fighting in the 3rd ninja war arc, the guy was supposed to faint after using a 2 or 3 kamuis, but goes for over 10 and endlessly shoots lightning jutsus like it's nohing.
@@stonalisa3729 it did, mostly before the war arc, when kakashi used kamui for the first time againt deidara, he used it 2 or 3 time and was exhausted, and even earlier in the manga, he said to Sasuke that he could only use raikiri 4 times a day or something. Even when taking training into account he used more of both meaning his chakra reserve don't make any sense, honestly considering how poorly the war arc was made it's not surprising.
@@kingol4801 No shit, sherlock. You can have anime with cool monumental fights and still have it make sense, and it's the author's job to make it make sense, for example not making the war arc take half of fucking shippuden.
I've followed whytmanga for a long time, and I appreciate another Saturday comic artist. Your content is very succinct, and while some points when a little off track, your editing keeps the video engaging. Very good stuff.
Gintama has the best power system, which is not having one at all XD. Jokes aside Gintama is a good example of making battles interesting without a power system, but that comes from all the setting that is done before the battle and the choreography. A video about battle choreography in manga and comic would be pretty interesting!
Scissor seven has a really interesting power system. It kinda has multiple power systems varying between regular people with powers, assassins with much stronger powers, and the weird tech people why use technology to enhance themselves. The main characters power might be one of the coolest and must unique I’ve seen in a while, but you probably wouldn’t guess that unless you get to the end of season one Incredible watch, I recommend it to anyone which a good sense of humor haha
@@jameschristopher2540 yeah, JoJo's is very hard to get into, part 1 was a product of it's time, but trust me when i say that part 2 is way better, and part 3... Didn't age that well, mainly the first half, but there are some really great fights there as well. Part 4 to me is when Araki found a formula that truly works and later parts built on that further. Part 6 is the end of the original continuity and an actually really deep look back at how much happened since part 1, and part 7 is araki having a blank slate in which he can paint on a blank canvas using all of the skills he acquired over the years and the result is nothing ahort of a work of art. The manga art, the themes, the stands, the journey the characters go through and seeing how Araki visits ideas from the old world in a completely new way is just... *Chef's kiss
The only problem that i have with Nen is that put the bar so freaking high ahahah, you can write a book about nen and if togashi brings antoher chapter, you need to write another book, is just that good and complex, it gives so much potential and uniqueness, bcs you create your own powers, and are reflections of the personality and history of every character, some are more in depth but you get the point, really good video btw, like :)
I feel like a good power system would be the ideas of jojo and one piece where you can have a ability that not many people can get and are extremely weird but can be useful while there can be a haki type power that can let characters be able to be equal to the main power system
My power system was heavily influenced by chakra from naruto, but instead of the power system having elements, the elemental type is one of the 6 types of the power system (im currently calling it mana because its also a term for life energy like chakra, ki and chi)
I wish you touched on Magical Index’s system, I feel like that system has a lot to learn from especially since it juggles all of the topics in this video really well.
I had a small idea for a power system. Nothing too original or elaborated, and I only have a general outer frame for it, but still an idea. Essentially, it's called Ego (placeholder name). It's a power born out of the user's personality, passions, phobias, ideals or trauma, and anyone is able to awaken it in some capacity. It has generally an unawakened form and a fully realized one, depending on the user's state of mind. The unawakened form manifests itself mostly physically and with limited capabilities, counciding with the user still not fully comprehending or accepting the power. Once the user comes to terms with themselves and fully grasps their ability's potential, it awakens and takes a more subdued, ethereal form, with the power growing exponentially but becoming more tiring and psychologically straining to use as a result. It's extremely dependent on the user's psyche, and any heavy psychological change could technically alter the Ego in unpredictable ways. Technically speaking, that's about all I could think of for now. Very rough, but hey, till an idea. But probably the most elaborate part I have in mind is the naming convention, because I LOVE the idea of a power system with a precise naming convention. Every Ego power's name is chosen through the formula [Verb] + [Linker] + [Noun] And so, you get stuff like Morph Your Wave, Dive in Darkness, Shield My Soul, Dance 'til Death, Hitch a Ride, Spin My Head, Shape The Earth, and Watch Your Back. In case you're wondering yes, this idea was actually born as a terrible idea for a Jojo fan series. They were all stands with terrible music references. I changed the entire thing around when s friend of mine made me notice that at this point I could have just done something completely different instead of writing a crappy fanfiction.
Jojo's power system is awesome and unique as long as you don't look at each Stands stats which often doesn't make sense at all, but I'd say it's more of a random gimmick. I do like tho that the power can decrease over time with aging characters.
I think the Nen System in Hunter x Hunter is a good power system, it depends on the creativity of the user and if he trains the ability, also for getting even more power you can put a condition to the ability, for me thats pretty balanced
Nen is GODLY. There’s no real plot holes, it gives a good amount of variety, allows for the best villains like tsierriednich and Meruem, and works for developing the main characters without making them feel overpowered.
Wait, Kurapika becomes a Nen Expert capable of using all categories just because of his scarlet eyes. Nen limits users' ability with percentage, but people like Netero don't need to follow this rule like everyone else, just because he is old and trained hard. Chimera ants discover Nen easily, even though it should be something super secret. Chimera ants are able to master Nen in a few days, while hunters take years to do so. Gon being the only character using the thing of exchanging life for power although several other characters could have done this when they were on the verge of death. Aren't they plot holes or script inconveniences? If Kurapika becomes an expert with his eyes, that means his clan also became an expert, right? So how was the Kurta clan massacred by Genei Ryodan when Kurapika managed to kill a member without much difficulty, being an expert? Why didn't Pokuru, Killua's butler or Kaito against Pitou use the exchange of life for power? They didn't have much to lose, they were going to die anyway. If anyone knows please answer me, it's been a while since I read Hunter But in my opinion, Kurapika mentioning in the succession to the throne arc that he had separated some chains, to use against people who were not part of the troupe, makes all the weight placed on the Yorkshin arc disappear. Because at that time, the whole thing about Kurapika having created his arsenal solely to kill spiders, placing oaths etc. showed how far he would go for revenge, how determined he was to the point of no longer caring about his life etc. I honestly feel that Togashi created the whole thing where he reserved other chains to use on other people much later in the story, as if it were an excuse to continue creating Kurapika's journey. After all, Kurapika would be vulnerable in the arc of succession to the throne if all his chains were created just to kill spiders. The author needed him available to fight in this arc, so he went back on the whole thing with the promises and oaths that Kurapika made at the beginning of the story.
The best power system for me is HxH and World trigger. I would also like to say that I disagree to your statement that an overpowered character is poorly written. They make them overpowered in purpose to make them interesting and sometimes they even look cool. If they can manage to make the story interesting with an overpowered character, then the anime/manga is written very well and not poorly like you say. You just gave the best example to contradict yourself. Saitama in OPM became OP because of some bllsht training but people still love the show/manga. Another OP character is Aizen from Bleach. He can beat almost all of the other commanders by himself with only his Shikai. Did people think he is poorly written? No. In fact Aizen is considered as one of the best anime villain of all time.
HUGE shoutouts to this video, watching this inspired me to re-vamp the power system in my story and it’s 100% better for it. Thank you for making it. Very well done and I love the use of other shows as examples.
I know there's still a war going on about whether or not this is an anime or not, but I'm surprised you didn't make Avatar TLA an example. It's my favorite for 3 reasons -1: The philosophy of "Merging different styles, cultures, and ways together makes you stronger" Yes, Aang is the only one who can use all 4 elements, but that doesn't mean you can't take the ways of the 4 elements and incorporate their ways into your one element. This is possible thanks to the fact that all you need is movement to control 1 of the 4 elements. -2: Nonbenders are still capable of kicking ass. They may have a harder time becoming a threat but put in the training and you could wope even some of the better benders. Whether it's through specific training, tactics, or a weapon of choice. Hell, even though they never state it, it's implied that most benders get so complacent with their bending abilities, they won't be much of a threat if their bending is taken away. -3: Powers Scaling: Only the Avatar is capable of the biggest scale attacks. Most benders are pretty tame in terms of scale, and when a fight does come up, it's not (just) about power. While the powers of benders vary, it's never just "The dude who can bend the biggest rock wins", there are factors to this. Skill, Experience, Tactics, Way of Moving, Build, Weapons, Techniques, Smarts. Enough variety for anyone to hop in and try something that might down the strongest dude, and other than bending, none of these are exclusive to anyone. Anyway, TLDR: I find Avatar to have 1 of the best power systems, and I want to do my best to follow its example, alongside One Piece
I like how One Piece is mentioned multiple times here but I agree, it’s power system is tightly regulated. Plus it’s important to note that in one piece, some powers are introduced and already exist in the world without the readers knowing so that when it’s given a better introduction in the future, it doesn’t make it an a** pull. For example, Enel using observation haki which gets properly introduced many arcs later.
My favorite power systems are ‘Nen’- hunterXhunter I like how unique it is, the rules are so absolute, yet there are so many loopholes that characters can exploit ‘Djinn’- magi Anyone can use a djinn, but they need to be earned by clearing a dungeon, it makes the power system a genuine sign of status, and power ‘Stands’-jojos Araki looked at hampn, and said “get tf out, you’re not bizarre enough” and than made the weirdest, crazy, bizarre power system with limitless potential
To be fair the Stands are usually the way the song is while I am a knight instead of a literal Chariot is because that's the way Master Polnareff's soul is.
@@rampagepotato4307 I agree but Araki can't be perfect which is why sometimes it misleads people the reason Araki named Stands from songs is because Araki uses the message of the songs and convert them into a power that conveys it. But again GER was a deus ex machina cause of it appearing conviniently while also it is stated that the Arrow chooses its user.
@@silverchariot1579 Whitesnake is even worse by comparison, really hated how Pucci could just pull any disc out of his ass to get away from any situation Part 6 really suffered from how broken that stand was. It was almost as if Pucci had a literal Diavolus Ex Machima of a Stand for over half of part 6, I was so glad when it evolved into something that could actually be beaten.
This is a very helpful guide (apart from the fact that you spoiled the power systems of Dragon Ball, One Piece, Bleach, and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure). I think it may also be worth pointing out how the power system can inform the audience about the characters who use the system. Such as how they use their abilities in various scenarios, how they obtained the power, or even how they feel about it. Like Shoto Todoroki from My Hero Academia, who possesses a power that literally reflects his parentage. Out of spite for his abusive father, he refuses to use or train half of his power (his father's half).
Very good points! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts! As for the spoiler thing, this is an educational channel. I try to respect spoilers if a series is currently airing or if the manga is way past the anime. I usually give stuff a year after airing before mentioning it in depth At this point, if someone hasn't seen or read Dragonball, One Piece, Bleach, or Jojo it's kind of on them. They've been out and popular for years haha
@@MonitorComics Oh I completely agree. I understand it's not your fault, but mine here. I've been procrastinating on these anime because I recently finished watching Naruto Shippuden, and it's a huge dedication to watch any of these other Shonen giants. And frankly, they're not big spoilers. I've seen a few episodes of One Piece already, so I already knew about Luffy's Gumgum fruit. And revealing a few fundamental rules to a power system to illustrate a point is hardly a spoiler especially because you only revealed one aspect of the world building these series built up. I watched these because I want to try my hand at writing a Manga. I was also thinking of using the game RPG Maker MV on my PS4 to aid with the world building and power system. I don't have any game developing experience, and very little practice with RPG Maker MV, but it will force me to add limits and a progression system. And who knows, it may give my audience (if I earn an audience), a video game adaptation of the manga I write.
@@MonitorComics Thank you for the encouragement. I don't know how I will present the manga. At this time it's just me brainstorming everything. One of the ideas I'm thinking over is an Isekai narrative, where the Protagonist starts playing the game I design only to end up trapped in the game itself, and releasing the game in its base form (what the protagonist was going to play before getting trapped). I understand it's not original but it may give some extra immersion for players. But that's just one possible option.
I have a system called 'Biji' which is basically a supernatural surging power that can materialize into something, depending on how the character trains. The power relies on life force and even a small amount of proficiency with it can allow someone to pull arms and legs off like twigs. However, upon a character unlocking Biji, there's a 15% chance he/she will encounter a grave downside, from something as insignificant as losing taste in ravioli to straight up killing you. Sometimes the side effects don't even hit you for years, while other times you'll be given something that looks great on the surface but is actually super bad and dangerous (ec. Inflation, character's strength and Biji gradually increase over time until it becomes too much and his arm explodes).
Power scaling and creeping is probably the hardest thing. I have yet to watch an anime where the main character didn't just become a massive Mary Sue due to power creep. "I can never beat this person, even though I'm half god, half devil, half ghost, half space wizard and trained in the arts of combat jutsu, spiritual manipulation and absorption of energy directly from the nearest star. Wait, I'll just train a bit harder for a weekend, then I can surely learn to suck up the entire afterlife to generate raw physical power and just punch the big bad boss to death."
Imagine if for power system limitations, you get an actual display of how much power each character has left during each fight. Like how Yu gi Oh shows Life points or an rpg shows MP. This way when characters fight you have an idea of which special techniques cost how many points, you can even try to guess which ability the characters will lose when they have X amount of points left, what they can do to start out fights and how they will be forced to strategize more often when they're in longer fights. It could add alot of depth in the reader's own interactivity though educated guesses, and keep things like Bleach and Naruto's overblown power escalation to a point where their established systems no longer matter/make sense.
That could work well in two ways if its only the user they would have to thing when to save it, but if the opponent could see it all the time a character might try to make their opponent spend all their power then attack them with all of their strength when their opponent cant block the attack with their power drained.
I am writting a manga right now and in my power system they have mana as their power source and in the universe there is a special pencil they draw a 100% on their arm then they can see how much mana they still have left which makes them use magic more strategiclly
can anyone grade my power system because i really need some feedback and i refuse to ask my family lmao, ima add more as i figure it out (i havent figured out most of it so far): The power system is called Karma (their life force) and there are 3 groups within it. 1, Healers - 2, Elementals - and 3, Karma Users. The reason why these 3 groups exist are because of 3 siblings that go deeper into my story’s lore (i need to figure that out lol) Karma can be used when the user goes through intensive mental and physical training, however physical training is less effective to Healers since their power does not require any training other than mental fortitude. In my world, physical training without mental discipline means nothing. So users must master both trainings. Also to note, if a user masters one training but not the other (mastering physical training but not mental) their Karma will become unbalanced and their health will deteriorate until they die.
I'm sorry, but if I may ask, what limits do the elemental users have? I'm not asking how many elements they can use at once, I'm asking if there is a current count of elements that elemental users have been seen using. And what abilities to karma users have? I apologize for the questions.
@@bbqsauce4796 No, no, those are great questions! Elemental users can use earth, fire, water, and air. However, it mostly depends on your genetics and ancestry of which element you can use. No one is able to use more than one element, the only person in my universe that can do this is Elemental sibling that created it. And for the Karma Users, it’s a pretty broad category and I haven’t figured out how to not make them so overpowered. I’ll get you the answer for them once I find out, thanks for the questions!
@@systemma I have a suggestion for making op characters not too op, if the character has an op power, then give them a common weakness, Example being a character that can use powerful projectiles yet is also weak and frail
Hunter x Hunter is my favorite power system. It’s incredibly intricate and original. I thought the introduction of meruem and nanika was super lame as it took away from the value of the nen system. Other than that it’s still my favorite shonen series.
nanika was deductive from the power system but meruem? not so much. meruem is a parallel to gon and is almost like an evil mirror of gon's adult self (which we see towards the end of hunter x hunter) and is therefore extremely close to the power ceiling but is still said to be unexperienced and not fully mature which gives us a very unique view on the end goal of nen. meruem's usage of nen is meant to be extremely raw but in extreme quantities. as if saying: here is what a maximum amount of nen looks like, but this guy doesn't actually know how to use it so there is still a lot of room for a character of this power to grow. if the story continued, meruem would become an integral narrative device to rationalise what would have been the dark continent and would have stopped all power creep essentially by being the strongest but not by showing that power.
@@pepsalt I guess you’re right given the fact he at least used nen. My thought process was that Meruem has barely been born and then shitstomped the unanimous strongest nen user in the series (Netero) without a nen ability of his own. And yes adult Gon is stronger then Netero but realistically any version of Meruem would still have beaten him handily. My gripe is we never saw what Meruem was actually capable of. What if he had absorbed 6/7 of Pitou as well? What if he absorbed all parts of each of his guards? What if he developed an original and creative nen ability? Meruem as a character was very well written, his arc was masterful, but his level of power threw a lot of the preexisting parts of the series out of the window for me. When I look at the phantom troupe, (which yes I know Gon and Killua had caught up with by the point in the series) I know that each of them had similar training and sacrifices to match those of Gon and Killua throughout Yorknew City and Greed Island with each possessing an ability that was unique to them that represented them as a character and represented their nen affinity. Introducing and absolute God was a problem of mine on its own. It felt like a cop out to me. Togashi is one of the greatest writers I’ve ever read, not just in shonen. So to see him use such a lame powercliff after an entire series of unmatched creativity was a little lame. And then not even allowing that God to accomplish anything he would’ve truly been capable of was also lame. Like if you’re gonna have him in there at least let him do his thing. But again, his arc as a character was beautiful. And yeah Nanika was a fucking hack. He should’ve just stayed with the “Feitan Zoldyck” plan.
Yeah man I mean it was so concised within the 6 parts of it but it all meant shit when it came to the chimera ant arc One piece imo has the best one which actually makes sense for the world it's set in
One time when my friend said nobody could beat goku, i shut them up by making a one chapter manga about “one look man” Kills everything by just looking at it, even immortals, so yes, he can beat goku
Yeah don't push yourself over that, people just think because he's strong he's the best around, When there's a billion characters with both abilities, strengths, and smarts to outwit em. So nice job good man
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My favourite power system is Bleach's. It is so diverse and out-of-the-box I love it. We got kido, shinigami powers and zanpakuto, schrifts and more
@@spicy_sauce7572 True!!
I will never stop being salty over how Naruto completely forgot about the limitations of chakra and just gave every character infinite chakra
LOL TRUE
Especially at the war arc, it was said that Kakashi couldn't use much chakra for having the Sharingan active all the time, in the war they completely ignored that
At Naruto gave everyone on his side extra Chakra to buff them because they were out of Chakra. Kakashi was fighting close to Naruto so yeah him and Guy recieved more Chakra than everyone else.
Boruto is where Chakra has no meaning the kids can spam Jutsu with no limits while Sasuke is always out of Chakra and everyone from previous generation have forgotten how to fight.
@@diogenesnascimento6433 back when chidori was introduced, Kakashi said it could only be used twice before his chakra became empty. And three times if someone wants to be borderline dead.
@@asandax6 oh man but like. He gave what thousands on ninja a full tank of chakra? Because he was born special? And this was before he got another free upgrade from his ghost dad and his 9 pets or whatever. Lmao
Damn remember when the show used to be about working hard to move up in life?
I would like to add that you can separate combat systems into 3 categories; creativity, power and strategy based systems.... also world trigger has a great systems 👍
Great points! Thank you for taking the time to share that! I really appreciate it!
Jojo is all 3
@@geodim3904 Jojo is more strategy based
@@OniBoiXD yes, but had the 3
@@Joanbueller007 most good series do...but im talking about what the series combat is centered around...Hunter x hunter has a bunch of strategy but I would say it's based on creativity
The reason why haki is a good assistant system is because ANYONE can awaken it, not “a handful”. That gives anyone a chance to stand against devil fruits toe-to-toe.
It helps too that each haki is awakened differently
Conqueror’s Is Birth
Armament Is Intensive Training
Observation Is Via Intense Battle moments
All need to be trained and mastered in their own different and unique ways
I agree, most good series has two power systems. One that the 1% has and is often due to luck, bloodline etc (devil fruits, kekkei genkai, cursed technique, Stands). These powers strength can be justified due to the rarity of them. And then the powers which 100% can learn (Haki, Chakra, Cursed energy, Hamon), comparativly this power must be trained, but can eclipse the 1% system with hard work.
There are of couse exceptions.
Good exception: Hunter x Hunter, where everyone CAN learn nen (100% power system), but only the 1% get really good at it. HxH doesnt need a secondary power system.
Bad exception: My Hero Academia, A power system using the basis of the 1% system where the quirk you get is dependant on luck/at birth but is accesible to (almost) everyone as a 100% system. MHA in my opinion desperatly needs a secondary power system so people not born with a good quirk can still be strong. For example, martial arts or technology. But it seems that wont happen, so imo MHAs power system is pretty bad.
@@FeelixW mha is a bad as a whole W
@@FeelixW MHA is supposed to have a secondary power system. It’s called Charles Atlas Superpower. It means a character can train to gain Superman levels of strength and speed. The problem with MHA hardly anyone takes advantage of it. Endeavor’s power is fire and only fire. The strength and toughness he shows is all hard work. Stain’s quirk is just licking blood. It doesn’t affect his speed yet apparently he’s faster than quirks that grant super speed.
One piece has a simple but good power system
8:44 I disagree with you on this. Naruto has never established how much chakra someone has or how much chakra different jutsus consume. In fact, characters only run out of chakra when it's a plot convenience to make the situation more dangerous.
You make some good points! Thank you for taking the time to share!
Smooth brain
@Aariz Rahman But the author forgot about that later and now all characters can make as much jutsus as the author want.
@Planet 9X if a power system is what makes naruto bad for you than you completely missed every other aspect lol
I disagree with you there. The measure of a charcater's chakra has always been pretty consistent in terms of its portrayal. It does not need a definite number for you to be able to clearly tell who has more chakra than who, which can be shown through statements, and feats, which is what they normally do.
Favorite systems:
Jojo-Stands
One Piece-Haki, and the superhuman powers of the CP9.
HunterxHunter-Nen
One piece power system doesn't make any sense
@@preetchetry3779why?
@@preetchetry3779 how
@@preetchetry3779 hes bugging
@@ariehamm241 tell me why do you think it's great.
Jojo and HXH have the best power systems in anime I have seen they are balanced, fun to watch and just works
TRUE!
One Piece is also up there it's very straightforward and anyone can learn Haki but not Conquerors since these are people born to have the ability to be rulers. And it's an amazing way of being able to counter the OP Devil Fruits
@@SoldieroftheImam313 not even close
@@IAm-zo1bo How? Haki makes so much sense it's very simple to understand
@@SoldieroftheImam313 took too long to get introduced
What I like about jojo's system is that the reader is given knowledge of what a character's stand can do and what it's boundaries are so when a character fights an enemy it's exciting to see what they will do with their stand to overcome the obstacle. A great example of this is Josuke vs Yuya
Great example! Thank you for taking the time to share!
To me, another great example would be Mista vs White Album’s Gently Weeps.
Yeah but remember that time when Killer Queen put Stray Cat in its belly thing
Some times the power is too complicated and we are given to much information on how it works and it just kills the action (dragons dream) or not enough and are left to wonder what the fuck it can actually do (golden experience/ger)
@@jinglejangle1533 I think it’s just Araki’s weird portrayals of powers. I find most Stands’ abilities simple: it does one thing, has a specific activation clause and several limits, like Gold Experience whose abilities require directly touching stuffs. But Araki loves his expositions.
Myh biggest pet peeve is when shounen has their strongest characters on-screen and present at all times. they always elevate the power level randomly, instead of establishing them early on in the series like HxH, One Piece, and JJK
True haha! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts
Yeah I clearly remember when Meruem was established early on in the series instead of coming out of a womb in the last arc being stronger than 99 percent of Hunter without any training
Haki took over 10 years to be included into OP power system so how is OP not doing just that especially with characters like big mom and kaido which are literally DBZ level villains if not stronger
@@churchhide haki was forshadowed for years before its "proper" introduction,the level of power that big mom and kaido have was established to be possible through people that are in a similar level in power like mihalk,whitebeard and the admirals (they are not as powerfull as dbz villans they can literally destroy planets you are exagerating)
@@churchhide dbz level villains? big mom kaido can beat majin buu and cell in a fight? buggin
"Naruto is a good example on limitation of power."
*cries in ninja war*
😂😂😂
Fr Kakashi and his unlimited kamuis still haunt me
Narutos chakra tho
I like the Naruto power system tbh, it’s prob my favourite. I know it’s kinda generic but I like how if you work enough you can become very strong and I like the different bloodline abilities. But there are some problems with it as you said
From strategy based to being Dragon Ball fights lmao
Jojo's power system is absolutely amazing. Its like king crimson: It just works
Personality, your own strenght, imagination and ofc science for some stands that connected to world or even universe.
It's kinda bs tho.
@@funnyV1890 That's why it's bs. A person suddenly gains power for absolutely no reason other than being stabbed by some arrow. Shit like destroying universes (does the author even know how much energy it would take to destroy a planet? let alone a universe lmao), parallel dimensions(no fking logical explanation on hows and whys except cuz the author said so),and time stopping (another bullshit,the only way for someone to stop time is if they can move at lightspeed, or if they could stop the movement of particles at quantum level) are utterly illogical. I really don't like stories that lacked logic.
@@rampagepotato4307 ...uh...ok. stick to your non-fiction documentaries, then. it's called "magic" bro lol
@@rampagepotato4307 putting science into a show were people can breathe sunlight energy
Dragon ball is like my pokemon party, only 1 character gets love
LOL
😂
💀💀
Lmao
This is EXACTLY what I needed-one of my biggest bugbears is balancing Magic and Psychic power to avoid redundancy, and working with the various types of magic power.
I'm happy to hear that! Thank you for taking the time to check this video out and leave a comment! I really appreciate it!
Psychic powers are usually tied to physics laws, as they developed in science fiction
A common differentiation is that psychic powers can use, empower, negate, or invert cause and effect in a specific physic law, while magic can break those laws
E.G.
Psychic: accelerate time to ripen a fruit
Magic: inject vitality on the fruit to ripen it
Psychic: see the future by calculating probability
Magic: see the future by prophecy
Psychic: move an object by injecting kinetic energy on it
Magic move an object by making an invisible hand to grab it
@@GinHindew110 hmmmm, maybe a series of type tier psychics, mages and different styles of sorcerer's could be fun to make
have any of y'all ever heard about the the toaru series? it's about a secret giant magic society (filled with magicians, sorcerers, witches and even some gods), entering in conflict with a scientific city (and their espers and scientists), the anime adaptation is kinda trash after season one, the spin-offs are a little better but they only approach the science side. I would recommend trying to give the light novel a chance
@@lavellelee5734 maybe a few like martial arts (the crazy cultivation chinese novel types/db), magic, science (psychic) and so on so forth. I mean just look at it from here we got the supernatural path where you got those holy/light, dark/death, life or creation manipulation etc. Maybe even supernatural creatures/beasts. We got the tech (sci fi and all that) and biological engineering or my fav changing the biochemistry (maybe a clever drug or something like the nzt). In some areas u got cyborg (bloodshot) and non organic (robotic/virtual world). A lot of stuff to it and maybe we'll create other systems outside of these (but most likely not).
Early naruto: hand seals and chakra control is important, and techniques like Haku's one handed hand seal formation is deemed impressive, since it leaves another hand free to do other things in combat.
Naruto later on: people can blow up whole villages with their eyes and make giant Stands come out of them
Don't forget when Naruto fought an alien on the moon and the Raikage wanted to blow the moon up with their giant lazer LOL
that's what is called plot progression tf?
@@D_Owo that's some shit plot progression.
@@D_Owo the thing is that we were already told what the ceiling was (For example Kakashi was supposed to be one of the most powerful jounin, and the hokage battle at the end of the chuunin tournament arc) but the author goes “well actually I lied to you” and gives everyone a dbz amp from nothing. It makes no sense considering how kakashi has been training his entire adult life, and yet a couple years from the zabuza arc to the war arc are enough for his chakra supply and power to grow exponentially
@@D_Owo no, that's what's called too much power creeping. Shippuden goes from 0 to 100 in no time when it comes to the power creeping. In one arc they're fighting with strategies and managing chakra and in the next they're throwing out atomic bombs like it's candy.
JoJo's spin is really unique
True
Can’t wait to see that in an anime adaptation soon
yeah spin is awesome
ba dum tss
The most important aspect of this is probably the limitations. I find stories more hard hitting when the characters are legitimately vulnerable and you know they can't just get out of devastating situations with some sudden power up or surprise new technics seemingly coming out of nowhere.
Great points! Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and adding onto the discussion!
Good rule of thumb:
The more the reader knows of the power and it’s limitation: the more you can use powers to solve problems.
The opposite is also true.
If your viewers don’t know the limits of a power: any problem solved with it will feel cheap.
I know Demon Slayer is bad about flashbacks but it's explained early on with it being your body trying to find a way to save itself (Tanjiro v Rui, Muichiro v Gyokko) but it's Breathing system is fairly balanced. In the end, they're still able to barely keep up with their enemies. BDAs are broken on the other hand
Do you know any anime/manga or other forms of media with this type of aspect in its storytelling you could recommend pls?
So it's the same kind of stand as star platinum
4:11 bruh this point with demon slayer is what a lot of people seem to misunderstand and I'm glad you didn't fall into this pit. the demon slayers don't actually control/make elements like producing water/generating lighting. they are just fighting in a way that sort of mimics said element and the elements showing up are just for artistic/visual representation. it's just for flair
When you bring that up, they act like the author is incorrect
@@kidcircuit1955 true but also the author is in fact just wrong
@@cavvaldiv5536 like i want to agree with the author, but they have literally drawn rengoku scorching the ground with his attacks
@@VeenanNorvius "want to agree with the author" 💀THEY MADE THE STORY. You can't tell the author what they said. If they said it's not actual elements then it is not actual elements.
@@cavvaldiv5536 The Author can't be wrong since they made the story 😭what are y'all on about? That's like the Author stating Sanemi is the 2nd strongest hashira and y'all say no he's the strongest hashira.
Jojo's power scaling is fair. It's literally based on your spiritual desire or RNG.
Like for example abbacchio! Mood blues is the embodiment of his will to reveal the truth , since he wanted nothing more when being a policeman .
It’s also deeply personal and serves as a reflection of the character’s ambitions, regrets, dreams and fears. Moody Blues is about replaying past events, comparable to obsessive thinking and rumination. Abacchio lives with the guilt of his partner’s death hanging over his head, it’s very fitting that this is his power. The power of Stands, much like Nen, can tell us a lot about the character’s personality
My stand would be overpowered then
@@Hispanocel why
Except some Stands completely shit on others. There's no way in hell Hermit Purple is defeating King Crimson or Made in Heaven.
EDIT: shit. I didn’t know RNG meant “random number generator”. Lmao. My bad
@@amuroray9115 yeah no shit sherlock
“…completely useless ability…”
*shows Nico Robin*
Excuse me… what?!?!
She can break the necks of most people near instantly
That ain't useless. but its broken
@Nasir Campbell
Didn’t she do that in thriller bark?
@@Peubescent your comment broke me
@@NoRegs30 yes, yes she did
she is so powerfull, Oda is the one not using her potencial
I like overpowered characters as long as they are well written and given justifiable reasoning.
For example, Saitama, Gojo, Gilgamesh, Kenpachi, Madara, Sung Jinwoo.
I think overpoweredness loses its charm when its reasoning is "power of the main character, or moving plot forward"
Very true!! Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts! I feel like I always see the "power of the main character" problem in isekai stories. Like the actual plot becomes irrelevant and it becomes a braindead slice of life harem usually. If that's what they wanted to write they didn't need to set it in fantasy world with powers LOL
Yea, eitherway an overpowered character like gojo dies, which is very cool and reasonable
Ya, and my god when you actually see a truly overpowered character die, that shit just hits so much harder than anything else. It goes against everything your expect and just has such a stronger impact.
"Unless they do it terribly, like in Madara's case or Fear in SoulEater.... SoulEater is not as well known but let me tell you, that is without a doubt the most dissapointing OP character to Death you'll ever experience."
@@foxiepix5164
For some reason I am fine with the fact Sung Jinwoo is strong as hell even though he is really not that different than other manhwa main characters who are more or less broken
Something about Solo Leveling feels acceptable to me, maybe the fact it actually has an ending? Maybe the fact they don't spend 100 chapters talking about a whole load of the most boring arcs that don't really do anything?
Or maybe the pacing?
I think it may be all of it, specially the pacing, manhwas these days around are boring as hell, they introduce the mc and his overpowered ability, then they start something about family lines or some whole insanely boring nonsense rather than showing more cool action
This one continues to feel like a chicken and the egg situation to me.... Are Isekai flooded with dumb OP protagonist, or are seasonal anime just flooded with so many isekais that it just becomes a lot.
Because I think a lot of Isekai MCs are actually pretty well-made and even justified in power or it works for their world... equally though, I think there's just such an abundance of isekai that it's very easy to pick out many generic craps.
Idk if it's the different though to let's say the Shōnen era of the 2010s where every Shounen was more or less the same too. "Kid, insert tragic background, insert special curse/power within, insert power system, insert mentor character, insert plot wist power justification."@@MonitorComics
Honestly, Hunter x Hunter was my favorite in sense of the power system, it was cool seeing the training Gon and Killua went through to achieve nen, and I'm glad they didn't have the power instantly at the start of the anime/manga, and they had to learn it. What hxh did amazingly was the character interactions, how most of the characters we see at the start go out in their seperate ways, and we see them again later on, and I liked the interactions with Gon and Hisoka, how he let Gon go and get stronger so he could fight him later on, while he was getting stronger as well, and the power scaling is well done, yeah it easily has the best power system I know of in anime
What is particularly impressive is that Gon and Killua are extremely talented and strong, but even with intensive training they are still not ready to be in HxH world. Just shows how high the ceiling is and how dangerous it is to be there, as even MC is not even close to being the strongest, unlike some series.
@@abylaiashken2611 Ging tho
DBZ: "How many Galaxies can you blow up?"
One Punch Man: "Are you Saitama?"
One Piece: "How stupid do I look?"
DBZ: “How many *universes* can you blow up?”
Looking stupid ===== victory
@@Yoyozlitt20 DBS
You know we have never seen anyone blow up a universe in DBZ except for Zeno but he is like Uber god. Everyone else just says that they can blow up galaxies but I think they are all capping
@@REDandBLUEandORANGE SSG Goku and Beerus nearly blew up an entire universe with just punches alone in Battle of Gods arc, and they were both holding back.
The power system of One Piece is just so good. There are devil fruit users, haki users, six powers user, Weapon users, swordsman, and cyborgs
TRUE! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts!
not rlly balanced tho is it
@@D_Owo it's pretty balanced I don't know why your hosting on it.
@@D_Owo It is.
Want to hit Logia users? Get haki.
Want to use your swords better? Use haki.
Want to beat haki? Use haki.
if it is good, explain to me how luffy won against mochi after losing 5 times to him. it is good on the surface, everthing else made up. akainu and aokiji fight for days, others settle it in minutes...hu
My power system is called
Aura and Divinity
Aura being the manifestation of obscene human ability meaning physical strength in any aspect or even pushing the spectrum of what a normal human can do. This includes all 5 senses. For example if you base the amount of aura you have in eye sight and leg muscles you can either see further or see on a different wavelength (depending on the amount of aura or control of it) and you’d be able to run faster or jump higher etc again depending on the amount or control of aura. Fully body aura exists which means you can up your physical strength completely but the best use of aura is Mastered aura which includes the 5 senses as well as full body aura so you become a being of immense physical prowess and physical knowledge.
Divinity is the powers that are borrowed from the gods. Too much divinity can kill a being that isn’t classified as a god or divine being. Demi gods can handle more divinity since it is naturally instilled but the more aura you have the more divinity you can handle. Divinity depends on the god you may be in contract with meaning if your goddess was the ice god khione you’d have some control over ice and other abilities the god may have.
Aura and divinity used in tandem and mastery over each could make a human a living catastrophe.
Aura breaking: A cursed move leading directly to death. This bolsters every physical aspect (not the 5 senses tho) to the max in exchange for the burning of the soul. Usually used as a last resort for those making a last stand.
This is all for my manga The Advent Of Thunder. If you have any questions about the story or power system please contact me on instgram dawn_platinum_
sounds interesting...
Wow.
Are going to release your Manga in web toon
My favorite power systems are jojo stands and jujutsu (from jujutsu kaisen). Stands are a very cool concept, where the stand is as strong as users mentality and will. Jujutsu is also very cool with neat things like domain expansions and random crits (black flashes)
Great choices!
Domains are basically well executed Bankais
Isn’t the Jjk power system dependent on inherent chance tho? Like gojo said it’s 80% inherent. Only leaving a small % for personal growth. And unlike hxh contracts one can not do the same with heavenly restrictions as you are born with them.
@@esseymicheal8541 you can make contracts with cursed energy and you can still become extremely strong even without a special bloodline as stated and shown by Sukuna
@@jackdesilva1391 oh how do you make contracts? Could you refer me to the chapter where that’s stated?
i wanna make a power sytem that allows characters to have unique abiliteis and be diverse but also ballenced, mha had the diversity part but not the balenced part
That's an awesome goal! Thank you for checking out this video and taking the time to share your thoughts! Best of luck!
Jojo had a pretty cool power system, you just have to be incredibly smart
MHA not being balanced is a part of its story, literally in the first page of the manga you see "not all men are created equal". It's COMPLETELY intentional and makes the story make sense in multiple ways.
it all depends, you could make gods and laws that forbid and allow certain things, or create litrpg or game system with classes and aversions (e.g. FATE's servant, elemental magic with many sub-powers, etc).
@@taterds7858 yeah, imagine, if you get character development your stand gets a power up or a new ability without the need of getting stabbed by the arrow again, i love the stand acts
"Add your own unique spin!"
Araki: Well...
He was actually the father of unique power systems with Hamon and Stands.
@@gl7029 with the well I meant the Spin tech
Jujutsu Kaisens power system is my absolute favourite. The idea of domain expansions, barriers, simple domains, reversed cursed energy and reverse techniques!?? I love it!!!
I also love how to become a strong sorcerer, one must have a open mindset, capable of change and adaptability. However, the learning curve of Jujutsu Sorcerers also relies on being able to take risk and not be afraid to put yourself in deathly situations. I absolutely love the idea of a power system that relies on the users mentality. However, we also see that some of the strongest sorcerers are also selfish like what Ryuk was talking about to Yuta after their fight.
Ones own potential is brung out by their mindset, mentality, selfishness or/and willingness to take risk.
That's how you bring out your potential as a jujutsu sorcerer. However, when it comes to actually executing your power in a battle, "the skill of a sorcerer can be judged based on their ability to use prerequisites like hand signs or incantations in order to fully activate their technique"
8:19 Dude Robin has one of the most useful DF the One Piece world lmao
If you know how to use it right
Mero mero no mi is probably one of the most useless fruits in the series luckily it found the perfect user
And law
@@ariehamm241 i wouldn't say that, you can still turn people to stone just by touching them
@@jordonmills4890 wait really? i thought they had to feel guilt or attraction towards you
Monitor Comics: Your justification doesn't have to be rooted in science.
Jojo: We don't do that here.
LOL
jojo: *proceeds to use gravity to give a massive power up to the MC so he can defeat valentine*
Power systems in anime/manga are always interesting to learn about, I used to watch anime so I could get tips on how to apply how their power systems worked to my own (I’m not writing a Shounen series anymore so…R.I.P., but I still liked them regardless). My favorite power system is from Hunter x Hunter, it’s a really well thought out and (kinda) complicated power system imo.
I’m interested in hearing it as I have a power system I have made myself as well
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment and share your thoughts! I hope you were able to enjoy the video! Best of luck with your current project!!
@@nickmccauley8009 i want to join but i don't have discord do you have telegram
@@thesplendiddevil8605 I have telegram messager if that’s what you are talking about
I found you again rekter, this is the second time I found you in random comments
JoJo, One Piece and Hunter X Hunter have by far the best fighting and power mechanics, every fight is a joy to watch.
Very true!
not op
@@D_Owo you know what, i kind of agree with you now. I think the things that make fights in one piece is great is the story behind how much the fights mean, Oda is a master story writer no doubt. And i still think Devil Fruits and Haki are a cool and original fighting systems. But regards to best fights One Piece fights arent as good as Hunter x Hunter or JoJo because there are never any clever strategies going on and is usually the most boring part of One Piece.
@@haroonp8842 i'm surprised a op fan actually listened to criticisms of op but yh thx for being civil abt it
5:43 "What DragonBall does well is establishing a power system that allows humans to keep up with aliens"
LMFAOOOOOOO
AT FIRSTTTT LOL but nah you right
i mean sayians have a lot of potential, which is why they are alot stronger than humans, but dont forget the fact that yamcha became stronger than perfect cell, who was literally solar system level. We also have to consider the fact that he is the weakest human z fighter, and the fact that krillin is the strongest human to exist in their universe. Its safe to say that the thing works out (kinda) and humans can actually rival most aliens.
@@xAdrianHGx they are only as strong as past villains, who themselfs cant hold a candle to the current main characters, no matter how much stronger yamcha or krillin are now theyl always be compared to god goku or whatever new form vegeta has, and theyl look week and phatetic in comparison, its like putting a revolver next to a nuke, yes a revolver can kill a man just as easily but itl look like nothing compared to the city busting bomb its next to
@@xAdrianHGx when did Yamcha ever get as strong as perfect cell?
@@majin_selassie2626 I'm not sure what perfect cell power level was, but in the previous manga arc yamcha was at 3 billion
I always loved Bleach's variety of not only abilities, but the power sources themselves. While all powers stem from spirtual power, each race uses it differently, making it so each race has their own unique magic system.
Soul Reapers focus on soul cultivation to develop their various abilities, chief among them being their Kido spells and Zanpakuto. Hollows essentially focus on body cultivation by eating souls to literally evolve and Quincies focus on energy cultivation so to better absorb and manipulate the spirit particles (reishi) in the air around them.
Then you have hybrids races like Fullbringers, Arrancar and Vizards who combine different aspects of the 3 races in their own ways.
It's so complex yet interwoven that it forms this fascinating and beautiful tapestry of a magic system.
Very great points! Thank you for taking the time to elaborate on all of that and adding to the discussion!!
Yep soul cultivation would be the coolest if the story didn't revolve around them.
That's similar to power system in cultivation novels, btw. For example, Martial World.
@@greenlitlleman exactly
A good example too is Agni from Fire punch. (Not shonen tho) His main power is Regeneration, seems generic and quite boring but Tatsuki Fujimoto spiced it up by adding inextinguishable flame that has been inflicted to Agni. He should've burned to death but because of his recovery speed, he was able to not die and utilize his flaming body to burn his enemies.
That is a great example! Thank you for sharing!
But it is published in shonen tho? Wdym?
@@keirarooo1377 No. Fujimoto threatened them with his flying powers to release it in Shonen Jump+
@@keirarooo1377 But seriously. I thought it was seinen because its very seinen feel to me.
The Law of Ueki if a fairly underrated anime and manga that has a very good power system - every combatant in it has the power to turn "something" into "something" - for example, turning trash into trees, towels into iron, discs into sawblades, etc, which allows for many fun and interesting fights because of the genius simplicity of the rules, while also giving birth to some very interesting and fun powers - the power to turn stupid puns into reality, the power to turn models into real objects, the power to turn 1 second into 10 seconds, etc. Its a quite short anime and manga series but its worth going through - especially the anime, since it has some godly animation - even though its quite old, its still gold. Heh.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share! I've personally never seen this anime, so I will definitely have to check it out! That sounds awesome!
oh boy, The Law of Ueki & Eyeshield 21 were one of the best power system in old titles. So glad someone bring it up
@@danielustration Eyeshield 21?
@@vassilus915 Yes, you should read it! Eyeshield21 on Manga is a masterpiece! The anime itself sadly not that amazing tho
@@danielustration I thought it was a Football Sports manga?
Make a power sealing Look at Naruto Or dragon Ball that's what happens if you don't have a power sealing
TRUEEE I forgot all about that! Thank you so much for taking the time to mention it! I really appreciate it!
I think that was intentional tho, gave the writers more room to work with. Did it lead to lazy writing, ya kinda.
What exactly is that again?
@@geschnitztekiste4111 I think he means a cap for how powerful characters can get
In some anime/manga it’s established early how powerful someone can ultimately get but in DB they just keep introducing new characters that are always stronger than the last even if the last characters were already supposed to be the strongest
@@philyoutuber7270 Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that's important
Wow, this was really helpful! I'm currently working on writing my own manga called Arizona, and this really helped me with the power system: Psychic Energy.
Basically, before the events of the story, an organization called the Marble Foundation experimented on young human children in an attempt to create a youth with the power to restore life to the dying Earth. This results in characters with psychic powers.
All people who can harness Psychic Energy have access to basic powers like limited telekinesis and mind reading, which can be trained to become more powerful and gain more powers, like inducing hallucinations or telepathy. However, characters can also gain a new psychic power that manifests through a character's Awakening, which occurs when a character experiences immense mental trauma, the kind that would break most people, and is able to regain composure. These powers can manifest as anything from conjuring fire to duplicating objects.
However, as psychic powers are tied to the character's mind, it also relies heavily on emotional strength and one's ability to remain calm under pressure. A character's Psychic Energy actually gets weaker the more stressed or insecure a character becomes.
I actually took inspiration from Stands in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure when building this. The main characters don't necessarily get stronger throughout the series, as every battle relies on finding creative uses for one's powers and exploiting weaknesses. For example, Phoenix Arizona (the main character) may use his fire powers to create an aura of blistering heat to exhaust an opponent until they collapse, or a character may use telekinesis to set up a trap to distract an opponent, only for them to attack in some completely different and unexpected way! I understand that this power system is by no means perfect, and I am open to suggestions. Either way, I hope that you enjoy seeing what can be done with Psychic Energy when I finally release Arizona!
This is incredible. You have a magnum opus on your hands for sure!!! I will definitely be reading your comic when it releases!!
Me too man
I would add that you should always try to balance physical prowess and more supernatural powers that encourage out of the box thinking. Let’s take Part 5 of JoJo for example. Giorno’s Gold Experience is a very VERY versatile power but is constantly shown as getting beat when in straight up 1v1 fist fights which forces Giorno to use Gold Experience in creative ways. This parallels the main villain who (slight spoilers btw) has an extremely physically powerful stand with an ability that is strong but extremely simple which we can see as a genuine downside since he gets outsmarted fairly often but he remains as a threat because we see just how strong his stand can be when his opponent fails to strategize effectively or when their strategies just can’t outweigh the sheer amount of force his stand can put out
Until Giorno's stand becomes "Touch me and I win" Kinda powerful like beating Goku kind of powerful
I immediately scrolled away from this comment as soon as you said "let's take part 5 of Jojo for example." There was no point of writing a long comment to summarize a part of the story and the characters powers.
Great advice! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts!
@@patricklewis9787 Yes but that was due to bucciratti 1000 iq with undoing silver chariot requiems ability thus giving girono the chance to get the requiem form of golden experience it isn’t as simple as you said.
@@patricklewis9787 People need to realize that the requiem power was earned through there teamwork and strategy, it’s like a capture the flag game and whoever captures the arrow first wins, they used there strategy and teamwork to get thay arrow and died for it. If you view it like that, it isn’t a deus ex machina at all! It was completely earned and justified in universe and was very satisfying. It’s satisfying in a way that you have to watch the full series to understand how truly great this is and how much work went into finally defeating the boss. As an isolated incident just showing it to someone it’ll look like an ass-pull and a deus ex machina, when it’s not.
Power system idea: if you conquer your greatest fear conpletly you gain a power relted to the fear. The limts and ablitys come simply from how you interpret the ablity and its limts
Woah that sounds awesome! It’s kinda similar to my power system idea, although rather from fear, it’s related to stress. And their ability is in relation to a moment in their life that caused them to feel the greatest amount of stress in their life (e.g. heartbreak/relative dying/having a panic attack etc…). The conditions and limits are also formed from how they interpret their stress too. I like the sound of your idea though, very simple and effective!
That idea is pretty good and I also recommend looking into the psychological concept of The Shadow if you want to expand on it.
@@Nght_Walkr so coool
@@ZelphTheWebmancer intreting, thanks for the advice
I had that idea for a long time. I got the idea from playing the silent Hill series
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Ah yes, my favourite Jojo....
S K U L L T R O O P E R
LOL I'm glad you noticed that!
Yea bro I saw it too💀
Thought I was the only one who noticed till I saw this comment
The elemental powers might not be real, but “It’s not magic they just breathe real good” starts to fall apart when human characters develop things like X-ray vision, turning a blade red by squeezing real hard, and manifesting spontaneous tattoos that burn lifespan for power up
That is true! When I made that point I was mostly referring to the elemental part, like I don't believe water is actually appearing
The Demons DO have powers that appear in the physical world though, same with the crests and sword color like you said
Another thing I would like to add is that power systems should be related to the themes or plot of the story. Jojo does this very well, like when Koichi gets more acts as the story progresses. Another anime that does this well is Black Clover. The utilization of grimoires allows for a unique magic system, in which training does not effect how much spells you get, only how good they are. New spells are gained by character development. For example, when Gauche starts caring for others. He uses mirror magic, and he could teleport using mirrors, shoot beams of light using mirrors, and clone himself. Once he realized that he needs to work with others, he gains a new spell that is the ability to clone other people. Power systems may be a part of the story, but if they reflect the themes of the story, that makes it even better.
Great points! Thank you for taking the time to add onto the discussion!
there is a hidden power system explored in OPM that every living being has a limit-cap Saitama is an example of breaking his limiter.
And theres another character who does the same but thats not animated yet.
One interesting note is that because of the nature for OP characters, they can actually work as villains. If your hero is super powerful and never sees the consequences, it can become frustrating and boring. If your villain is this way however, it can serve to fuel the audience's rage towards them.
Nah. I prefer power fantasies over cheap and poorly done “evil Superman” tropes.
Overlord is a great example of that, for instance.
One thing I want to say is that OPM deserves a special mention since its powers are very diverse there is no system for particular powers but a threat level to measure them all. Same for MHA but it basically just says you have superpowers since you are born. Like no radiation no special serum no experimentation you were just born with it.
Yeah just like we're just born with 2 legs or sometimes 1. It just happens and finding out how requires science.
@@asandax6 Honestly the Power System is pretty much just genetic enhancements, pure training, machinery, pure desire turning into a monster, alien biology, natural born powers and being given powers by "God". So it's very comic book like since there is no define power system and are just powers.
@@eduardopantoja9115 I think that OPM is better that way because having different powers and explanations along with a variety of colourful characters is much better than typical shounen or seinen storylines where there are last minute power ups.
But it's not completely unrelated as the disaster levels are an amazing standard to measure powers.
the power system in Mha turned to shit when Deku got multiple quirks. At first, the idea of the Younger generation's quirks being much stronger and more complex than the Older generation was so unique I loved it. But then you have Deku who is just a hero in TRAINING s beating up pro villains like Overhaul, Muscular, Stain, etc. Deku basically beat up villains without much effort and even if his arms gets torned up, the recovery girl easily heals it without any consequences. The Power System in Mha is shit and that is based on objective facts.
If one day my time comes to create a manga and hope it gets animated,( I have the skills to create a story but I can only draw stickmen) I have created the setting and my power system. Here's how it goes: everyone is normal on planet earth until God decides that humanity should make a new start and wants to make more interesting but he doesn't have anything going on for humans but suddenly he gets the striking idea to transport everyone in a new world exactly like our own while also giving everyone powers but he doesn't know what powers to assign to everyone, so he proceeds to find a good reference for powers that humans could utilize. Thus he sees videogames and decides that they have enough powers for everyone. He chooses a world that was clear of human presence for 25 years leaving everything in state of flora and fauna having covered everything and all metal structures having rust on them. The main cast has a number of interesting abilities with the protagonist having the ability to turn into metal making the user super heavy and insanely durable resisting most attacks from slashes to piercing attacks and kinetic attacks but with a weakness to electricity and magnetism. This ability of his also allows him to expand into a perfect sphere of the same height as himself but that only activates with a certain amount of speed and offers as all powers special "gifts" essentially small perks such as this ability having the sub-abilty infinite stamina giving him well, infinite stamina. He also choses two other abilities to compensate for his poor mobility those being Flash a basic teleportation ability that teleports him around in a 20m radious and Vector Arrows which allows him to place large black arrows on any surface and even below him with those arrows being able to propel anything towards the direction they point at. The thing is both of these abilities come from videogames that need stamina for them to work and that is countered by the metal ability's infinite stamina perk allowing him to spam both powers continuously and he can even put his metal and vector arrows abilities in an interesting combination by basically turning into the metal sphere form and continuously placing two arrows in front of each other basically creating an infinite railway where he can move as a giant metal sphere. Basically he is strong but not the strongest by any means easily falling under the " I'm weak as a protagonist but I can get stronger and I have plot armour" trope. He's teammates include a guy who creates soundwaves with different colours based on different musical instruments and melodies being the flashiest one around (Tengen style) and one of the strongest there are but he is limited because he is not the protagonist. There's his other teammate who has kinetic green flames and utilizes his Taekwondo skills for devastating kicks. Opinions on my power system and world??? Note that this might be something I will be focusing later on my life and I don't want anyone to copy this for their own personal gain. Thanks you.
I am thinking of trying something new - a battle shounen... Without supernatural powers.
Imagine a shounen focused on HEMA / historical fencing taking inspiration from three musketeers. The protagonist is blamed by his community for his father's dishonor, and as such embarks on a quest to restore it, with his mastery of destreza serving as the tool. He will face criminals, other diestro, crazed alchemists and occult conspiracies, but at the end of the day he is always just a man with his rapier.
Sounds awesome! Thank you for taking the time to check out the video and share your thoughts! Best of luck with your story! It sounds cool!
That sounds a fun read and i hope you go with the idea. Only thing you need to worry is the sword techniques being too grand. Power ups should be simple things like better footwork or learning how to parry a single attack not like a sword that fires laser beams that destroys mountains.
Maybe you want to watch The Duellists (1977).
A battle shonen without supernatural powers? Kengan ashura does something similar. The only supernatural power I think is the speeding of blood the protagonist does but even that comes with extreme drawbacks.
Hajame no Ippo could be a good reference
YOOOOOO, thank you so much for doing my suggestion, I really appreciate it!
Of course! I hope you enjoyed the video! Thank you for taking the time to check it out and leave a comment!
@@MonitorComics Yep np, it was a great video and extremely helpful, keep up the great work!
I think what makes nen the truly great power system is the concept of the specialist because it is basically the biggest “have your cake and eat it too”. For those who don’t know nen abilities are divided into 6 distinct types or what they can do/use it for and specialist boils down to any power that doesn’t fit into the other groups. It basically means the author has perfectly found a way to bring in a power that doesn’t align with the power systems rules without it feeling like a cheat or make no sense by giving an internal reason for it. It is honestly one of the smartest choices for a power systems because then they can create any cool or unique power that pops into their head without it breaking the in universe rules
Yeah, Specialization makes room for some of the most memorable abilities in the whole series. But you know the complexity creep is real when the best fight in the series has flow charts XD
I also wanted to add that One Piece introduces a couple of martial arts that can be used in conjunction with Devil Fruits and Haki, such as: Rokushiki, Fishman Karate, Hasshoken, and all the different sword styles. Martial arts add a lot to both realism and interest, because it makes a lot of sense that in a world where people have super powers, they'd come up with fighting styles to either compensate or enhance their power.
My all time favorite power system in any series is in One Piece. You have devil fruits which can range from being pretty useless (axolotl fruit) to being op. Even then, creativity plays a huge part in the power. Katakuri for example has a pretty mediocre fruit, turning into a rice cake, but his creativity and his Haki make it monstrous. Then you got haki. Haki is accessible to literally anyone but mastering them and making them stronger takes a lot of training and each haki has different ways to train and improve them.
Great points! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
I love Gash Bell's spell system
they have two systems: elements, and spell type:
spells that ends with -ga: beam shaped and has piercing properties
spells that start with Ganzu: rapid small projectiles
spells that start with Shirudo: shield spell
spells that end with -ruku: self-buff spell
every demon has their own element, in the case of the protagonist, lightning
all his versions of the spell type have to do with lightning, with his "ruku" (self buff) letting him move as fast as lightning
everyone's element is different, but sometimes they share spell structure, and even with said similarities, the spell casting effects can end up VERY different
example:
Gash's Ganzu spell gives him six separate barrels that shoots fat lightning orbs
Wonrei, a demon whose power is melee combat, his Ganzu spell is making his fists punch so rapidly it can fire off waves from each blow
another demon's ganzu spell is shooting rapidly from one source point
Demons dont always learn all the spell types
and then some demons are better at some than others, and some LIVE by specifically only one spell type too
example:
Ted only has "-ruku" spells, that means he only has self-buff spells, but he has like 5 versions
the fun part of the manga is to find out how many spell types are the SAME
yet how different and unique they are to to their OWN ELEMENTS.
Jujutsu Kaisen also has a good power system so far
Eh
Hell no.
@@Hallow-fn5vm Hell no? How is it not a good one?
@@hamzy1989 they're just in denial because its a new series that people use to challenge some older one that they have fond memories of
Nothing more.
True, one of the best and most creative power system of manga shonen
Jojo's is pretty sciencey with their power system and also keeps it very fictional which is why I like it
Very true! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
In my opinion JOJO has the best power systems in all of anime/manga without a doubt.
Good choice! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Nen is just in different level than the rest.
TRUE Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment! I really appreciate it!
Sorry but stands are better
If you only consider mainstream anime then yes, it's a high level.
@@patatajoe3112 Nope, Nen is in it's own league in all of anime
@@ignited8119 I don't think you've watched a lot of (non-mainstream) anime. Nen is complex for the way it works (different types do different things and you can use them in different ways) but the effects it produces are pretty standards.
Use your nen --> Produce a standard power
OR
Use your nen with restrictions --> Produce a standard power boosted up in a directly proportional way to the limit you applied.
But, for example, if you produce electricity with nen, it remains electricity even if boosted up.
If you watch some really good power system like A Certain Magical Index, electricity isn't just electricity: if you can calculate more variables, you can use that power in a more precise way.
You can manipulate electricity? Then you can produce a lightning, manipulate electric field (because it's generated by an electric charge), manipulate magnetic field (because it's generated by an electric field), manipulate every kind of magnetic force (attracting every kind of material), use magnetic field on a electrically charged item to produce a Lorentz Force and then a Railgun, manipulate every electrical signal in an electronic device to hack him or every electrical signal produced by each neuron (synapse) in your own brain to resist mental manipulation.
And the fact is that God Speed in Hxh is one of the most complex powers, while Electromaster powers in A Certain Magical Index aren't even so rare.
Vector manipulation is a power that can control every single vector quantity in the universe, so every single physical phenomenon and so a power that can work in billions of different variables.
Dark Matter can produce a substance that doesn't exist in the universe and can have every kind of feature, also characteristics that don't exist in the universe and can't be studied.
HxH is a good power system in mainstream works, but pretty bland if we consider every kind of manga.
You can't compare a manga with limited ways to use a power (HxH) to other works where there are infinite variables only limited by your imagination and calculation ability.
I thank you, despite already knowing certain information, you really help me rethink things that I can add to my series
I'm happy to hear that! Thank you so much for checking out this video and leaving a comment! I really appreciate it!
@@MonitorComics 😊
@@BigArch752 What’s your series about?
What is your series
It's about your typical teenager going on an adventure but adding my taste to it but my character goes through political problems, yokai beast which is mainly the problem, majority of them represent pure evil and humans as well.
This is a very helpful video, not planning to write any Manga. But the story I am currently brainstorming "Break of Dawn" (the title is still loose) definitely plays on Shonen themes. The general idea being that after centuries of constant warfare with vampires fairies have been dwindled down from a massive 500,000 to approximately only 2,000. In this series farries are not distinguishable from humans in any obvious way, but generally are more athletic, intellectual, and far better off.. The main conflict is that Vampires (still sticking to the original vampire archetype) want to collect enough faerie(intentionally spelled wrong)blood in order gain complete immunity from the sun. The more pure the fairie blood the better. I am still working on in what manner the blood is then utilized to give all vampires complete immunity. Another thing worthy of note I that even an ounce of fairie blood can be drank to last up to a complete 3 hours in sunlight , however a vampire can only take so much or the pure magical power would simply be too much. Essentially acting as an over dose. The power scaling comes in with the fairies themselves. Their power is drawn from the innate magic Within themselves, this being only present in faeries, this power not yet known where it originated(aka in working on that part). This allows them to manipulate their own energies similar to the ki system in dragon ball. As well as certain faerie families having specialized ways in which this power is used.
That sounds AWESOME. Thank you for taking the time to share all of that and for checking out this video! I really appreciate it! Best of luck!!
Sounds 🔥
I personally believe that Toriko had an incredible power scaling system with the Capture Levels
Thank you for taking the time to share! I definitely need to check Toriko out! I only read the first chapter MANY years ago, but looks like it's time to catch up!
@OocSNKZ It’s really simple but effective. It’s essentially like Dragon Ball Z and power levels but if they actually continued using that concept to measure power. In Toriko they have “Capture Levels” for ingredients or beasts. And depending on how difficult it is to attain the ingredients or capture the beasts the higher their capture levels. You might think that the power scaling system so far is just really basic but the manga really shows you how to tell apart low capture level beasts from those who higher capture levels. For example low capture level beasts would be something like large snakes who shoot acids with a capture level around 20-25 or so. But when we move up the scale to a beast with a capture level that’s much higher like 6,000-7,000 they are capable of some crazy ass shit. For example there was one beast so powerful that he was able to perfectly cut a giant mountain and throw it across the ocean and make it skip until it’s reduced to a mere pebble. But yea hope that helps.
I made a power system were when a person has a specific attachment or emotional bond with an object they gain an ability related to that bond.
Although there are also some people who gained abilities from bonds with other things like a mind control ability born from a fascination with factory’s that controls anyone who thinks the user can make their life better, or a powerful reality warping ability born from the user isolation with their thoughts that lets the user control reality for a certain time, but after they finish everything they made disappears but the effect remains(ex. They fire a missile and blow up a house, the missile disappears but the house is dust)
shit that's a really good idea, ok, you need to make that real fast because i'm thinking on stealing your idea, *and i'm not joking*
@@elmendelasarten8365 dont steal ideas bro not cool
@@takeid123 i tried but my pickpocket level is too low to steal his idea, i'm too lazy to save and reload 99999 times for it
@@elmendelasarten8365 heres one for free idioms are power such as
Its raining cats and dogs- summoms cats or dogs
Im feeling under the weather- can manipulate the weather on the ground
Curiousity killed the cat- can alter peoples memories and can turn into a partial cat.
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“Hunter X Hunter is praised for being arguably the best shonen power system ever created.”
Now hold on a sec-
“Ah no he has a point.” -Kronk
LOL
I’ve always liked one punch man’s power scaling system
True! One Punch Man is an exception to most things haha. It does many things well that probably shouldn't work in theory. Thank you for taking the time to check out this video and leave a comment!
use chinese grinding techniques 'till you remove your limitator so you can one-shot everyone, hell yeah i love it.
I cant really complain with the power scaling, or even the fact that saitama is just mad overpowered, because of how good it was, honestly, but true, I like it as well
I see OPM as parody show.
A goofy show, that i can meme about and have fun watching.
At least , show does not feel boring, other characrer makes show pretty interesting.
Naruto's chakra system was good until 1: inconsistent asspulls (Kakashi, battle on the bridge) and 2: when every antagonist or plot-relevant entity bypassed the system for "strongs sake". I actually still like tbe system- it just has no use anymore because of the writing
Naruto's power system is as consistent as JoJo's until the war arc. Although the explaination was because Naruto was giving out the 9 Tails Chakra like candy to everyone and the enemy was using its own tailed beast Chakra.
Now as for Boruto well let's say it's not Naruto.
@@asandax6 what is that last statement supposed to mean? Are u saying they fucked up even more or that they fixed it?
@@BondoV2 It's fucked up to death
What is wrong with kakashi's battle on the bridge....deadass nothing wrong happened with his battle against zabuza
what's wrong with his battle with zabuza r u good
Hearing this is just what I needed, I don’t draw cause I suck but I like to write about my characters but never gave them a real story, just tying them together by chance for example my minor character only gets talked about cause I needed a backstory for one of my main characters
I'm super glad this video could help! Thank you for taking the time to watch and share your thoughts!
"In One Piece the devil fruits serve as the character's source of power"
Haki:Am I a joke to you?
JoJo's power system is fuc*ing unique and terryfing
"nobody likes an overpowered character"
*Laughs in isekai*
OP MCs in isekais are a HORRIBLE guilty pleasure of mine.
Man thanks I'm writing a power system that I'm calling conquer(story is about kings quests ruins and such)
Mind saying more about it?
@@nickmccauley8009 I'm still in the very first chapter
I don't think it's the best but sure I'll share abit
So there's an ogre named Ronan who wants to rule is own landmark(landmarks are giant buildings that are villages for people to live that greatly change the surrounding area)
In the begining he has just exited a dungeon and gained a conquer weapon wich allows the user to create a weather condition for there lands to be in a eternal place. He's been in there for 5 years
There's other way of using conquer and atm I don't have a solid place for conquers to have come from but I've already got the types and such
Enhancement (you can cover yourslef or objects in any type of metal)(you need to be calm to use it)
Split(you can mess around with air particales I have not written a split user but there mainly gonna use elements)(need to be scared to use it)
Out burst ( you create explosion around any thing and the explosion can have vairing effect changing form user to user) (can only use when mad)
And that's it at the moment
I don't have all the rules written down but I know all of them
@@nickmccauley8009 I'd be very thankful for any improvements on it
Sounds awesome! Thank you so much for taking the time to check out this video and share your story's power system! Best of luck!!
@@MonitorComics thanks
With Diversity in Power, I think of Fire Force. A series where all the powers are based off of fire in some way, but each character does it in a different way making it interesting.
I love that when you talk about limitations, you show kakashi fighting in the 3rd ninja war arc, the guy was supposed to faint after using a 2 or 3 kamuis, but goes for over 10 and endlessly shoots lightning jutsus like it's nohing.
the sharengan apparently drains stamina but I don't recall that ever actually coming up in a fight and mean something
Did you actually watch the show?
@@stonalisa3729 it did, mostly before the war arc, when kakashi used kamui for the first time againt deidara, he used it 2 or 3 time and was exhausted, and even earlier in the manga, he said to Sasuke that he could only use raikiri 4 times a day or something.
Even when taking training into account he used more of both meaning his chakra reserve don't make any sense, honestly considering how poorly the war arc was made it's not surprising.
Yeah no.
Plot and spectacle > consistency
I want cool monumental fights. Not playing some crappy MOBA with CDs on abilities and anti-fun limits
@@kingol4801 No shit, sherlock.
You can have anime with cool monumental fights and still have it make sense, and it's the author's job to make it make sense, for example not making the war arc take half of fucking shippuden.
great video! you've got some good point on the power system, i'll definetly think of it all to make a proper balanced system
Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment Treecks! I really appreciate it!!
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Araki when writing part 7 : And i took that litteraly…
LOL
I've followed whytmanga for a long time, and I appreciate another Saturday comic artist. Your content is very succinct, and while some points when a little off track, your editing keeps the video engaging. Very good stuff.
Gintama has the best power system, which is not having one at all XD. Jokes aside Gintama is a good example of making battles interesting without a power system, but that comes from all the setting that is done before the battle and the choreography. A video about battle choreography in manga and comic would be pretty interesting!
Scissor seven has a really interesting power system. It kinda has multiple power systems varying between regular people with powers, assassins with much stronger powers, and the weird tech people why use technology to enhance themselves. The main characters power might be one of the coolest and must unique I’ve seen in a while, but you probably wouldn’t guess that unless you get to the end of season one
Incredible watch, I recommend it to anyone which a good sense of humor haha
Shame you didn't mention Spin, because it's one of the most brilliantly executed power systems I have ever seen in any piece of fiction
Spin? Is that an anime?
@@jameschristopher2540 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 7 has the both Spin and Stands as the MCs abiities
@@suezuccati304 Wow I stopped with the first mc. I spoiled the rest but idk after him I thought it would get bland. But stands and now spins....
@@jameschristopher2540 yeah, JoJo's is very hard to get into, part 1 was a product of it's time, but trust me when i say that part 2 is way better, and part 3... Didn't age that well, mainly the first half, but there are some really great fights there as well.
Part 4 to me is when Araki found a formula that truly works and later parts built on that further.
Part 6 is the end of the original continuity and an actually really deep look back at how much happened since part 1, and part 7 is araki having a blank slate in which he can paint on a blank canvas using all of the skills he acquired over the years and the result is nothing ahort of a work of art. The manga art, the themes, the stands, the journey the characters go through and seeing how Araki visits ideas from the old world in a completely new way is just... *Chef's kiss
The only problem that i have with Nen is that put the bar so freaking high ahahah, you can write a book about nen and if togashi brings antoher chapter, you need to write another book, is just that good and complex, it gives so much potential and uniqueness, bcs you create your own powers, and are reflections of the personality and history of every character, some are more in depth but you get the point, really good video btw, like :)
I feel like a good power system would be the ideas of jojo and one piece where you can have a ability that not many people can get and are extremely weird but can be useful while there can be a haki type power that can let characters be able to be equal to the main power system
True! That would be cool!
My power system was heavily influenced by chakra from naruto, but instead of the power system having elements, the elemental type is one of the 6 types of the power system (im currently calling it mana because its also a term for life energy like chakra, ki and chi)
I wish you touched on Magical Index’s system, I feel like that system has a lot to learn from especially since it juggles all of the topics in this video really well.
TRUE I love that franchise I am a bit disappointed in myself as well LOL
I had a small idea for a power system. Nothing too original or elaborated, and I only have a general outer frame for it, but still an idea.
Essentially, it's called Ego (placeholder name). It's a power born out of the user's personality, passions, phobias, ideals or trauma, and anyone is able to awaken it in some capacity. It has generally an unawakened form and a fully realized one, depending on the user's state of mind. The unawakened form manifests itself mostly physically and with limited capabilities, counciding with the user still not fully comprehending or accepting the power. Once the user comes to terms with themselves and fully grasps their ability's potential, it awakens and takes a more subdued, ethereal form, with the power growing exponentially but becoming more tiring and psychologically straining to use as a result.
It's extremely dependent on the user's psyche, and any heavy psychological change could technically alter the Ego in unpredictable ways.
Technically speaking, that's about all I could think of for now. Very rough, but hey, till an idea.
But probably the most elaborate part I have in mind is the naming convention, because I LOVE the idea of a power system with a precise naming convention. Every Ego power's name is chosen through the formula
[Verb] + [Linker] + [Noun]
And so, you get stuff like Morph Your Wave, Dive in Darkness, Shield My Soul, Dance 'til Death, Hitch a Ride, Spin My Head, Shape The Earth, and Watch Your Back.
In case you're wondering yes, this idea was actually born as a terrible idea for a Jojo fan series. They were all stands with terrible music references. I changed the entire thing around when s friend of mine made me notice that at this point I could have just done something completely different instead of writing a crappy fanfiction.
sounds cool 🔥🔥
Jojo's power system is awesome and unique as long as you don't look at each Stands stats which often doesn't make sense at all, but I'd say it's more of a random gimmick. I do like tho that the power can decrease over time with aging characters.
Very true! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts!
I think the Nen System in Hunter x Hunter is a good power system, it depends on the creativity of the user and if he trains the ability, also for getting even more power you can put a condition to the ability, for me thats pretty balanced
Very true! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Nen is GODLY. There’s no real plot holes, it gives a good amount of variety, allows for the best villains like tsierriednich and Meruem, and works for developing the main characters without making them feel overpowered.
IK ITS SO VERSATILE TOO
Wait, Kurapika becomes a Nen Expert capable of using all categories just because of his scarlet eyes. Nen limits users' ability with percentage, but people like Netero don't need to follow this rule like everyone else, just because he is old and trained hard. Chimera ants discover Nen easily, even though it should be something super secret. Chimera ants are able to master Nen in a few days, while hunters take years to do so. Gon being the only character using the thing of exchanging life for power although several other characters could have done this when they were on the verge of death. Aren't they plot holes or script inconveniences?
If Kurapika becomes an expert with his eyes, that means his clan also became an expert, right? So how was the Kurta clan massacred by Genei Ryodan when Kurapika managed to kill a member without much difficulty, being an expert?
Why didn't Pokuru, Killua's butler or Kaito against Pitou use the exchange of life for power? They didn't have much to lose, they were going to die anyway.
If anyone knows please answer me, it's been a while since I read Hunter
But in my opinion, Kurapika mentioning in the succession to the throne arc that he had separated some chains, to use against people who were not part of the troupe, makes all the weight placed on the Yorkshin arc disappear. Because at that time, the whole thing about Kurapika having created his arsenal solely to kill spiders, placing oaths etc. showed how far he would go for revenge, how determined he was to the point of no longer caring about his life etc. I honestly feel that Togashi created the whole thing where he reserved other chains to use on other people much later in the story, as if it were an excuse to continue creating Kurapika's journey. After all, Kurapika would be vulnerable in the arc of succession to the throne if all his chains were created just to kill spiders. The author needed him available to fight in this arc, so he went back on the whole thing with the promises and oaths that Kurapika made at the beginning of the story.
The best power system for me is HxH and World trigger.
I would also like to say that I disagree to your statement that an overpowered character is poorly written.
They make them overpowered in purpose to make them interesting and sometimes they even look cool.
If they can manage to make the story interesting with an overpowered character, then the anime/manga is written very well and not poorly like you say.
You just gave the best example to contradict yourself.
Saitama in OPM became OP because of some bllsht training but people still love the show/manga.
Another OP character is Aizen from Bleach. He can beat almost all of the other commanders by himself with only his Shikai. Did people think he is poorly written? No. In fact Aizen is considered as one of the best anime villain of all time.
HUGE shoutouts to this video, watching this inspired me to re-vamp the power system in my story and it’s 100% better for it. Thank you for making it. Very well done and I love the use of other shows as examples.
I really appreciate the feedback! Thank you for checking the video out and taking the time to share your thoughts! Best of luck with your story!
I know there's still a war going on about whether or not this is an anime or not, but I'm surprised you didn't make Avatar TLA an example. It's my favorite for 3 reasons
-1: The philosophy of "Merging different styles, cultures, and ways together makes you stronger"
Yes, Aang is the only one who can use all 4 elements, but that doesn't mean you can't take the ways of the 4 elements and incorporate their ways into your one element. This is possible thanks to the fact that all you need is movement to control 1 of the 4 elements.
-2: Nonbenders are still capable of kicking ass. They may have a harder time becoming a threat but put in the training and you could wope even some of the better benders. Whether it's through specific training, tactics, or a weapon of choice. Hell, even though they never state it, it's implied that most benders get so complacent with their bending abilities, they won't be much of a threat if their bending is taken away.
-3: Powers Scaling: Only the Avatar is capable of the biggest scale attacks. Most benders are pretty tame in terms of scale, and when a fight does come up, it's not (just) about power. While the powers of benders vary, it's never just "The dude who can bend the biggest rock wins", there are factors to this. Skill, Experience, Tactics, Way of Moving, Build, Weapons, Techniques, Smarts. Enough variety for anyone to hop in and try something that might down the strongest dude, and other than bending, none of these are exclusive to anyone.
Anyway, TLDR: I find Avatar to have 1 of the best power systems, and I want to do my best to follow its example, alongside One Piece
In terms of pure enjoyment, Stand power system is the best
Good choice!
Yeah! In Rule of cool showing off, Stands are unbeatable
I like how One Piece is mentioned multiple times here but I agree, it’s power system is tightly regulated. Plus it’s important to note that in one piece, some powers are introduced and already exist in the world without the readers knowing so that when it’s given a better introduction in the future, it doesn’t make it an a** pull. For example, Enel using observation haki which gets properly introduced many arcs later.
Very true! thank you for sharing your thoughts and adding to the discussion!
My favorite power systems are
‘Nen’- hunterXhunter
I like how unique it is, the rules are so absolute, yet there are so many loopholes that characters can exploit
‘Djinn’- magi
Anyone can use a djinn, but they need to be earned by clearing a dungeon, it makes the power system a genuine sign of status, and power
‘Stands’-jojos
Araki looked at hampn, and said “get tf out, you’re not bizarre enough” and than made the weirdest, crazy, bizarre power system with limitless potential
To be fair the Stands are usually the way the song is while I am a knight instead of a literal Chariot is because that's the way Master Polnareff's soul is.
Stands are overrated tho. Power scaling is all over the place. Not to mention how bs their powers are sometimes.
@@rampagepotato4307 I agree but Araki can't be perfect which is why sometimes it misleads people the reason Araki named Stands from songs is because Araki uses the message of the songs and convert them into a power that conveys it. But again GER was a deus ex machina cause of it appearing conviniently while also it is stated that the Arrow chooses its user.
Good choices! Thank you for taking the time to share!
@@silverchariot1579 Whitesnake is even worse by comparison, really hated how Pucci could just pull any disc out of his ass to get away from any situation Part 6 really suffered from how broken that stand was. It was almost as if Pucci had a literal Diavolus Ex Machima of a Stand for over half of part 6, I was so glad when it evolved into something that could actually be beaten.
This is a very helpful guide (apart from the fact that you spoiled the power systems of Dragon Ball, One Piece, Bleach, and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure).
I think it may also be worth pointing out how the power system can inform the audience about the characters who use the system. Such as how they use their abilities in various scenarios, how they obtained the power, or even how they feel about it. Like Shoto Todoroki from My Hero Academia, who possesses a power that literally reflects his parentage. Out of spite for his abusive father, he refuses to use or train half of his power (his father's half).
Very good points! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts!
As for the spoiler thing, this is an educational channel. I try to respect spoilers if a series is currently airing or if the manga is way past the anime. I usually give stuff a year after airing before mentioning it in depth
At this point, if someone hasn't seen or read Dragonball, One Piece, Bleach, or Jojo it's kind of on them. They've been out and popular for years haha
@@MonitorComics Oh I completely agree. I understand it's not your fault, but mine here. I've been procrastinating on these anime because I recently finished watching Naruto Shippuden, and it's a huge dedication to watch any of these other Shonen giants.
And frankly, they're not big spoilers. I've seen a few episodes of One Piece already, so I already knew about Luffy's Gumgum fruit. And revealing a few fundamental rules to a power system to illustrate a point is hardly a spoiler especially because you only revealed one aspect of the world building these series built up.
I watched these because I want to try my hand at writing a Manga. I was also thinking of using the game RPG Maker MV on my PS4 to aid with the world building and power system. I don't have any game developing experience, and very little practice with RPG Maker MV, but it will force me to add limits and a progression system. And who knows, it may give my audience (if I earn an audience), a video game adaptation of the manga I write.
@@taqresu5865 Sounds awesome! Best of luck!
@@MonitorComics Thank you for the encouragement. I don't know how I will present the manga. At this time it's just me brainstorming everything.
One of the ideas I'm thinking over is an Isekai narrative, where the Protagonist starts playing the game I design only to end up trapped in the game itself, and releasing the game in its base form (what the protagonist was going to play before getting trapped). I understand it's not original but it may give some extra immersion for players.
But that's just one possible option.
@@taqresu5865 Sounds cool! Most ideas aren't completely original, it all comes down to how you execute it! Best of luck!
I have a system called 'Biji' which is basically a supernatural surging power that can materialize into something, depending on how the character trains. The power relies on life force and even a small amount of proficiency with it can allow someone to pull arms and legs off like twigs. However, upon a character unlocking Biji, there's a 15% chance he/she will encounter a grave downside, from something as insignificant as losing taste in ravioli to straight up killing you. Sometimes the side effects don't even hit you for years, while other times you'll be given something that looks great on the surface but is actually super bad and dangerous (ec. Inflation, character's strength and Biji gradually increase over time until it becomes too much and his arm explodes).
Sounds awesome! Thank you for taking the time to share!!
Power scaling and creeping is probably the hardest thing. I have yet to watch an anime where the main character didn't just become a massive Mary Sue due to power creep.
"I can never beat this person, even though I'm half god, half devil, half ghost, half space wizard and trained in the arts of combat jutsu, spiritual manipulation and absorption of energy directly from the nearest star.
Wait, I'll just train a bit harder for a weekend, then I can surely learn to suck up the entire afterlife to generate raw physical power and just punch the big bad boss to death."
“Limitations on Powers”
Akira Toriyama: HA! Nice joke! Wait, you’re actually serious…?
Reki Kawahara: Apparently, they are…
LOL
Who's the second guy?
Imagine if for power system limitations, you get an actual display of how much power each character has left during each fight. Like how Yu gi Oh shows Life points or an rpg shows MP. This way when characters fight you have an idea of which special techniques cost how many points, you can even try to guess which ability the characters will lose when they have X amount of points left, what they can do to start out fights and how they will be forced to strategize more often when they're in longer fights. It could add alot of depth in the reader's own interactivity though educated guesses, and keep things like Bleach and Naruto's overblown power escalation to a point where their established systems no longer matter/make sense.
That could work well in two ways if its only the user they would have to thing when to save it, but if the opponent could see it all the time a character might try to make their opponent spend all their power then attack them with all of their strength when their opponent cant block the attack with their power drained.
It exists, it's called LitRPG but sadly, unheard for visual works such as manga or anime.
This is a great idea. I am going to try and use this for mine. If you don’t mind
I am writting a manga right now and in my power system they have mana as their power source and in the universe there is a special pencil they draw a 100% on their arm then they can see how much mana they still have left which makes them use magic more strategiclly
Another thing is anyone here good at drawing please i need your help
can anyone grade my power system because i really need some feedback and i refuse to ask my family lmao, ima add more as i figure it out (i havent figured out most of it so far):
The power system is called Karma (their life force) and there are 3 groups within it. 1, Healers - 2, Elementals - and 3, Karma Users. The reason why these 3 groups exist are because of 3 siblings that go deeper into my story’s lore (i need to figure that out lol) Karma can be used when the user goes through intensive mental and physical training, however physical training is less effective to Healers since their power does not require any training other than mental fortitude. In my world, physical training without mental discipline means nothing. So users must master both trainings. Also to note, if a user masters one training but not the other (mastering physical training but not mental) their Karma will become unbalanced and their health will deteriorate until they die.
I'm sorry, but if I may ask, what limits do the elemental users have? I'm not asking how many elements they can use at once, I'm asking if there is a current count of elements that elemental users have been seen using. And what abilities to karma users have? I apologize for the questions.
@@bbqsauce4796 No, no, those are great questions! Elemental users can use earth, fire, water, and air. However, it mostly depends on your genetics and ancestry of which element you can use. No one is able to use more than one element, the only person in my universe that can do this is Elemental sibling that created it. And for the Karma Users, it’s a pretty broad category and I haven’t figured out how to not make them so overpowered. I’ll get you the answer for them once I find out, thanks for the questions!
@@systemma I have a suggestion for making op characters not too op, if the character has an op power, then give them a common weakness, Example being a character that can use powerful projectiles yet is also weak and frail
Dr. Stone has a good power systems
there is a power system in Dr. Stone?
@@eriiiccccc5426 None lmao. He's prolly a troll.
@@eriiiccccc5426 in away the science is a power system but I manly just ment it as a joke
Hunter x Hunter is my favorite power system. It’s incredibly intricate and original. I thought the introduction of meruem and nanika was super lame as it took away from the value of the nen system. Other than that it’s still my favorite shonen series.
nanika was deductive from the power system but meruem? not so much. meruem is a parallel to gon and is almost like an evil mirror of gon's adult self (which we see towards the end of hunter x hunter) and is therefore extremely close to the power ceiling but is still said to be unexperienced and not fully mature which gives us a very unique view on the end goal of nen. meruem's usage of nen is meant to be extremely raw but in extreme quantities. as if saying: here is what a maximum amount of nen looks like, but this guy doesn't actually know how to use it so there is still a lot of room for a character of this power to grow.
if the story continued, meruem would become an integral narrative device to rationalise what would have been the dark continent and would have stopped all power creep essentially by being the strongest but not by showing that power.
@@pepsalt I guess you’re right given the fact he at least used nen. My thought process was that Meruem has barely been born and then shitstomped the unanimous strongest nen user in the series (Netero) without a nen ability of his own. And yes adult Gon is stronger then Netero but realistically any version of Meruem would still have beaten him handily.
My gripe is we never saw what Meruem was actually capable of. What if he had absorbed 6/7 of Pitou as well? What if he absorbed all parts of each of his guards? What if he developed an original and creative nen ability? Meruem as a character was very well written, his arc was masterful, but his level of power threw a lot of the preexisting parts of the series out of the window for me.
When I look at the phantom troupe, (which yes I know Gon and Killua had caught up with by the point in the series) I know that each of them had similar training and sacrifices to match those of Gon and Killua throughout Yorknew City and Greed Island with each possessing an ability that was unique to them that represented them as a character and represented their nen affinity. Introducing and absolute God was a problem of mine on its own. It felt like a cop out to me. Togashi is one of the greatest writers I’ve ever read, not just in shonen. So to see him use such a lame powercliff after an entire series of unmatched creativity was a little lame. And then not even allowing that God to accomplish anything he would’ve truly been capable of was also lame. Like if you’re gonna have him in there at least let him do his thing. But again, his arc as a character was beautiful. And yeah Nanika was a fucking hack. He should’ve just stayed with the “Feitan Zoldyck” plan.
Yeah man
I mean it was so concised within the 6 parts of it but it all meant shit when it came to the chimera ant arc
One piece imo has the best one which actually makes sense for the world it's set in
@@fallzero7304 Really? I’ve only watched up until they hit the grand line in ep 62ish. Should I keep watching?
@@bear9955 yeah it’s still my favorite
this helped me, i created a power system just now and it sounds like something new.
That's awesome to hear! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
@@MonitorComics anytime! :D
One time when my friend said nobody could beat goku, i shut them up by making a one chapter manga about “one look man” Kills everything by just looking at it, even immortals, so yes, he can beat goku
LMAO. you don't need to make manga honestly, there are countless characters that can beat Goku.
True Gigachad Move
Yeah don't push yourself over that, people just think because he's strong he's the best around, When there's a billion characters with both abilities, strengths, and smarts to outwit em. So nice job good man
The weakness of trash writing. DBS author would asspull a strongest Goku with violet hair and Gokutards would suck it up lmao.
Tfw he can beat goku but not a mirror.