Head cannon: Half way through the fight, Skull and Mona catch eachother complaining how strong their opponent is, and they're both like, "Please, I could kick your ass any day." At which point, the light bulb goes off, they switch opponents and fulfill their dreams of kicking eachothers asses.
What would've been neat is that you could keep your PMs, and everytime you Baton Pass to another Teammate, the shadows would do the same so that you'd fight the corresponding faker shadows depending on your team layout. What we got with Joker V Joker was still fun, but if they included the baton pass thing into it, it would've made for a neat fight
Joker: “I found you! Faker!” Shadow Joker: “Faker? I think you’re the fake Joker around here! Comparing yourself to me? Ha! You’re not even good enough to be my fake!” Joker: “I’ll make you eat those words!”
I like how since she doesn't know how they really look like,the colour pallete for the phantom thieves are the colour pallete used mainly throughout the game.Nice touch
am i the only one laughing how Zenkinchi is thinking that his daughter is dieing on his arms and everyone is chilled and not telling him, like they never told him how it was while investigating and let him think he had to fight his actual daughter
Anyone wanna talk about how Futaba had an Shadow version? Like, how does it work? Are they both taking damage at the same time and it’s whoever’s healing boosts kick in faster wins? Lol
2 things: 1) Am I the only one who wanted to face each of the Cognitive Phantom Thieves one by one until Joker's was the last one? 2) What were Wolf and Sophie doing the whole time?
They were backing up individual thieves when they needed it. Joker didn’t require any because he could handle his copy and Sophia and Zenkichi would get in the way
I wish that we could have had a request which would let you do the whole gauntlet of the main party vs. their doppelgangers in 1v1. Would've been very fun for an optional boss fight
Style Mortal Kombat Joker: I never expect see you again Shadow Joker: You suprise? Joker: Little but no much. Dialogue 2 Shadow Joker: the shadow of your past, still there Joker: And I'll live with it! Shadow Joker: Show Me Your Hate Dialog 3 Shadow Joker: justice is your only ally! Joker: You're wrong, I was never alone! Shadow Joker: Still, they won't save you! Dialog 4 Joker: I had someone else as a rival! Shadow Joker: I may not be the first after all! Joker: The first one went to Akechi, and he was more than a rival! Round 1 FIGHT!
HELL YEAH! I got some too! Joker: "Y'know I usually rely on my team to help me through." Shadow Joker: "How pathetic of you." Joker: "Oh make no mistake-I'll kick your ass with ease solo." Shadow Joker: "Anything you do, I can do better." Joker: "You can't make curry better than me." Shadow Joker: "If you're not gonna take this seriously, then go home." Joker: "You ready for a last surprise?" Shadow Joker: "Trust me, you won't see this one coming." Joker: "Hope you're ready to be outmaneuvered then~" Shadow Joker: "I'll make your death quick, and stylish." Joker: "I don't intend on dying to a fool like you." Shadow Joker: "Sorry, but I didn't ask for your opinion." Joker: "You sure look confident." Shadow Joker: "I usually do when I face people beneath me." Joker: "The only person who I'll go beneath is Sumire Yoshizawa." ...or...whatever girl you guys choose. XD Shadow Joker: "You need proper punishment." Joker: "Try me, faker." Both: "IT'S SHOWTIME!.."
The first time i saw this boss i was like "wait. Morgana said that we should take out the shadows one by one. Does this mean i need to fight each shadow replica using the originals? Good god im done for." As by this point i was very confident that as joker, haru, makoto, or ann i can easily win as they were all above level 60 equiped with the best weapons and armor i can get during that time. But the rest? They still have their default accessory much left leveled up enough to even scratch the boss. Thankfully you only needed to fight the joker replica. If you were meant to fight the entire team then im sure a lot of people would be stuck at this boss for a bit.
I honestly wouldn'd have minded a possibility of facing each phantom thieves cognitions. Maybe as a bonus, since you can redo final jail boss fight, they could have made a special one for this.
I liked fighting joker solo but it would have been more fun if we could fight one on one with each shadow not only joker. Not complaining just for fun.
Oh that one was an absolute pain! I was able to kill him on my second attempt after using literally all my items lol (I was level 43 and no buffs/debuffs)
Do buffs make that much of a difference on easier difficulties? Touchy subject, yeah, especially since buffs and debuffs have been a thing before Persona came about, but I never found a use for buffs and debuffs, especially now. Then again, I barely got pass the tutorial fight on merciless...
@@Puda nah, buffs really help, although debuffs not so much. With the defense boost and the agility boost you can pretty much do non-stop critical combos to build up showtime with 1 mores during the entire fight with a few sp recover items
@@raezor6941 buffs, debuffs, and ailments can be a god send during hard battles and boss fights. Increasing attack, defense or evasion can make a battle easier and with proper use of personas you can basically make sure your enemy never attacks or even move during the entire fight. For example i was easily able to beat the fake joker without taking a single bit of damage. How? Use fusion to get a persona with dormina (make enemies sleep) sleep boost (increases the chances of sleep) and ailment boost (increase all ailment chances). Just use dormina on him and while sleeping, boost attack. Debuff enemy defense. Then throw everything at him. Once he starts to wake up again. Just put him back to sleep. Even while being hit enemies stay asleep so that thing can be abused alot. Even against dire shadows and powerful shadows. Though it doesnt work on bosses.
I like how the Fake Thieves posed, Akane probably doesn’t know their personalities too well so she has them pose how she thinks they would Fake Panther for instance is going a cat pose probably cause her attire, Fake Queen is flexing as she thinks she’s a strong fighter (she is) and Fake Noir I actually have no idea how she came up with that pose for Noir when it’s more of a pose for Panther but whatever.
No One: Absolutely No one: Not a Single soul: Not even the tiniest Brain cell: Not even the most Micro of Micro-organisms: My Last Brain cells: I FOUND YOU, FAKER!
Another's last brain cells: Faker? I think you're the fake Joker around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha! You're not even good enough to be my shadow!
It would be cool, but it makes sense that they're not there. Akane never actually saw them. Still, it wouldve been cool to at least see a reference to Kasumi and Akechi in the game
@Michael Thomas. You aren't wrong. Zenkichi had only just gotten his Persona after all and Akechi was a bloodthirsty killer. Although the idea of Zenkichi's Fury vs Akechi's Call of Chaos is an interesting thought
I did this entire fight with only Arsene. Was it difficult? Hell yeah Was it worth it? Honestly it felt badass Matching him move for move with only Arsene and using curse skills and regen passives along with lot of healing items.
@@bubalackgaming8892 oh Christ then you had a much harder fight than I, I made it a rule in each one to make sure I always carried the protags persona, which I know kinda defeats the purpose of switching out for each situation but I always felt bad ass with them. Hell in persona 5 (the first one) when I reached yaldaboth I had Arsene at lvl 82 and I made sure to fight him with only Arsene as a testament to how strong Joker became. I experienced death many times but when I won it felt great
I still can't help but feel kinda disappointed that we couldn't fight the other fake Phantom thieves. That intro with Akane had me hyped up! But when it turned into a fight with just Shadow Joker, I felt like it was such a waste to make the other fake Phantom thieves.
I would have loved if you could still baton pass in this fight Imagine baton passing to ryuji or something, and the enemy doing the same I just think it would have been to fight ALL the copies
Joker: is that really what I look like? Shadow Joker: you bet that sweet ass of yours~ Joker: Oh I could give *you* driving lessons S Joker: I bet you could~ Ryuji: oh perfect, this is the way it all ends! Joker, flirting with himself, true love at last! Sorry about that, ladies The girls, all drooling over the sight of two Jokers Ann: absolutely no problem at all...
Instead of having an entire group of phantom thieves fighting each other, I kind of wish it was just Cognitive Joker who was the Jail Boss and the real Joker would fight one-on-one with him alone on behalf of his team. Would have been more epic. Plus Joker is the only one who can pull of that color palette. The others just look ridiculous.
This game assumes the player never played Persona 5 or 5R so having a single Cognitive makes no sense considering it's never brought up again. On top of that they still look like Shadows, if it was a proper Cognitive then it'd be a proper mirror to Joker's appearance.
RW:the odd thing about this fight is that i can easily compare it to MMPR in the episode “Mutant Rangers” where they have to fight evil counterparts of themselves or even from Power Rangers Wild Force too
I like to headcannon that our joker and akane joker are perfect equals so they’re at wits end until our jokers pulls off one big move to get akanes fake
a bit late but a good tactic is the keep your distance from fake joker and use your gun attack which shouldn't cost any bullets. Your special gun attack allows you to phantom dash up close and get some good hits in. Also anytime fake joker is not attacking is the only time he's able to be hit so you can run up to him, hit him a couple of times, and dash away. Only use your persona's for stat buff's and healing.
Now I’m confused. This is a jail right and not a palace? How could a cognitive being be made in a jail? I thought only palaces can have cognitive versions of people
@@Yurihyuga766 let’s say jails are to hold the monarch captive by making them forget their trauma it’s still the meta verse so whatever they think as the place will transform into a different jail because of their cognition
maybe Zenkichi or her phantom is supporting her team as well. She disappeared after the PT are done with their respective opponent and rain her with bullets right after.... Don't know.
I wish for this fight you got to use both sophie and zenkichi since they both don’t have a shadow to fight and would likely acknowledge shadow joker as a strong threat
Idk if you're still stuck or progressed, but I got a few tips based on my experience: 1.) Persona's may inflict ailments, but your opponent is not weak to any of the damage types, so conserve and use your Persona's wisely. 2.) Lock on to your target and watch his attacks. If he shoots, close the gap and get your hits in. If he lunges at you and starts his attack sequence (or combo), interrupt his attacks by shooting him and go ham after a follow up attack. 3.) Watch your surroundings, he can also do a phantom dash and attack from the poles, so keep your eyes on him and the poles. That's about it, hope it helps
A bit late, but I would assume it was more her Shadow itself creating the PT's and their weapons rather than the real one, since only the Shadow has seen them fighting. But that has many contradictions so I don't really know.
@@boomprower Wait what. It’s a successful launch, it didn’t flop in Japan lmao. It sold already a 162,410 copies on it’s first week in Japan. That’s already a fucking huge success on Japan standards.
Head cannon:
Half way through the fight, Skull and Mona catch eachother complaining how strong their opponent is, and they're both like, "Please, I could kick your ass any day." At which point, the light bulb goes off, they switch opponents and fulfill their dreams of kicking eachothers asses.
I’ve seen that episode of Teen Titans
bruh that’d be so awesome
It's even better when you realize Ryuji is weak to wind and Morgana is weak to electricity
If there's an anime based on Strikers hope they make that an actual scene.
Damn that good head cannon the so good
Remember when everyone thought that this was going to be Joker corrupted or his Shadow? Good times.
Imagine if ‘I’ll Face Myself’ played during this battle.
You make it in the option menu
@@nantoshirogane9383 Boss battles don't use custom music
Facts
@@Snow-dv7hx mods maybe?
@@Snow-dv7hx *floppa pain scream*
As absolutely awesome as this fight was, I really wish we could've fought the other clones as the other thieves, such a missed opportunity
Tbf it would have added a shit ton of work for the developers to do
More phantom theives to fight? Thanks, but no thanks. I had enough trouble fighting shadow joker
What would've been neat is that you could keep your PMs, and everytime you Baton Pass to another Teammate, the shadows would do the same so that you'd fight the corresponding faker shadows depending on your team layout. What we got with Joker V Joker was still fun, but if they included the baton pass thing into it, it would've made for a neat fight
What about Zenkichi and Sophie? Akane don't have cognizant forms of them, since they are newer Phantom Thieves, Zenkichi newest.
@@raezor6941 They could be fighting whatever the previous PT member was, since they are helping all of them out anyway
you almost sound like a game designer.
7:41
Gotta love how over the top those heroic poses are at the start of the fight. It's Showtime indeed.
what more could you expect from persona 5
Joker: “I found you! Faker!”
Shadow Joker: “Faker? I think you’re the fake Joker around here! Comparing yourself to me? Ha! You’re not even good enough to be my fake!”
Joker: “I’ll make you eat those words!”
I understood the reference
"Escape from the ciiiity"
That was my first thought when they were saying the fakes couldn’t stand up to the originals. Quite literally “not even good enough to be my fake.”
HEEEYYYYYAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
I like how since she doesn't know how they really look like,the colour pallete for the phantom thieves are the colour pallete used mainly throughout the game.Nice touch
Phantom thieves did zenkichi bad though. He actually thought he lost his daughter. That must have felt so bad.
Facts they just let the dude have a meltdown lmao
Revenge for almost getting them arrested
Zenkichi was probably just chilling or trying to talk no jutsu Akane
am i the only one laughing how Zenkinchi is thinking that his daughter is dieing on his arms and everyone is chilled and not telling him, like they never told him how it was while investigating and let him think he had to fight his actual daughter
Shadow Akane is just Hat Kid going through a goth phase
That’s so accurate!! 😂
My god, you're right
Man I randomly found a guy that did this battle no damage challenge how the heck do you do that 😂😂
Anyway im a silent subscriber love your content!
Mumpunl
The closest we'll get to Persona PvP
What about the P4 arena
@@garrettwilliams8273 true
@@garrettwilliams8273 hope we get a P5 Arena based on P5S's story
@@kachosuffer7 we will this Atlus
Anyone wanna talk about how Futaba had an Shadow version? Like, how does it work? Are they both taking damage at the same time and it’s whoever’s healing boosts kick in faster wins? Lol
HACKING BATTLE!!!! No really I think that's it whoever has the most hacks
They spam moral support on their teams
They should have made Shadow Futaba tell her team YOUR weaknesses
The Dark phantom thieves. I kinda wish the bosses are playable (Their human forms Only)
2 things:
1) Am I the only one who wanted to face each of the Cognitive Phantom Thieves one by one until Joker's was the last one?
2) What were Wolf and Sophie doing the whole time?
Good question
They were backing up individual thieves when they needed it. Joker didn’t require any because he could handle his copy and Sophia and Zenkichi would get in the way
I'm late, but Zenkichi and Sophie fought against Futaba's clone
As cool as a this fight was I would have loved to fight shadow akane or at least all of the cognitive phantom thieves
They probably didn’t want you to attack a child in game.
@@williamnguyen8663 Idk man Futaba is only 1 year older than Akane. Does Akane really count as a child though?
I wish that we could have had a request which would let you do the whole gauntlet of the main party vs. their doppelgangers in 1v1. Would've been very fun for an optional boss fight
Style Mortal Kombat
Joker: I never expect see you again
Shadow Joker: You suprise?
Joker: Little but no much.
Dialogue 2
Shadow Joker: the shadow of your past, still there
Joker: And I'll live with it!
Shadow Joker: Show Me Your Hate
Dialog 3
Shadow Joker: justice is your only ally!
Joker: You're wrong, I was never alone!
Shadow Joker: Still, they won't save you!
Dialog 4
Joker: I had someone else as a rival!
Shadow Joker: I may not be the first after all!
Joker: The first one went to Akechi, and he was more than a rival!
Round 1 FIGHT!
Awsome
HELL YEAH! I got some too!
Joker: "Y'know I usually rely on my team to help me through."
Shadow Joker: "How pathetic of you."
Joker: "Oh make no mistake-I'll kick your ass with ease solo."
Shadow Joker: "Anything you do, I can do better."
Joker: "You can't make curry better than me."
Shadow Joker: "If you're not gonna take this seriously, then go home."
Joker: "You ready for a last surprise?"
Shadow Joker: "Trust me, you won't see this one coming."
Joker: "Hope you're ready to be outmaneuvered then~"
Shadow Joker: "I'll make your death quick, and stylish."
Joker: "I don't intend on dying to a fool like you."
Shadow Joker: "Sorry, but I didn't ask for your opinion."
Joker: "You sure look confident."
Shadow Joker: "I usually do when I face people beneath me."
Joker: "The only person who I'll go beneath is Sumire Yoshizawa." ...or...whatever girl you guys choose. XD
Shadow Joker: "You need proper punishment."
Joker: "Try me, faker."
Both: "IT'S SHOWTIME!.."
@@AJkingwing Round 1 FIGHT!
The first time i saw this boss i was like "wait. Morgana said that we should take out the shadows one by one. Does this mean i need to fight each shadow replica using the originals? Good god im done for." As by this point i was very confident that as joker, haru, makoto, or ann i can easily win as they were all above level 60 equiped with the best weapons and armor i can get during that time. But the rest? They still have their default accessory much left leveled up enough to even scratch the boss.
Thankfully you only needed to fight the joker replica. If you were meant to fight the entire team then im sure a lot of people would be stuck at this boss for a bit.
I honestly wouldn'd have minded a possibility of facing each phantom thieves cognitions. Maybe as a bonus, since you can redo final jail boss fight, they could have made a special one for this.
Would've loved to have multiple phases beating them one at a time with each transition being that clash
1:32
Shadow Akane is giving battle instruc- Oh no. HERE THEY COME!
I liked fighting joker solo but it would have been more fun if we could fight one on one with each shadow not only joker. Not complaining just for fun.
Oh that one was an absolute pain! I was able to kill him on my second attempt after using literally all my items lol (I was level 43 and no buffs/debuffs)
Do buffs make that much of a difference on easier difficulties? Touchy subject, yeah, especially since buffs and debuffs have been a thing before Persona came about, but I never found a use for buffs and debuffs, especially now. Then again, I barely got pass the tutorial fight on merciless...
@@raezor6941 on that particular boss, probably not (too fast) but unsure about difficulty level since I was on normal.
@@Puda nah, buffs really help, although debuffs not so much. With the defense boost and the agility boost you can pretty much do non-stop critical combos to build up showtime with 1 mores during the entire fight with a few sp recover items
@@raezor6941 buffs, debuffs, and ailments can be a god send during hard battles and boss fights. Increasing attack, defense or evasion can make a battle easier and with proper use of personas you can basically make sure your enemy never attacks or even move during the entire fight.
For example i was easily able to beat the fake joker without taking a single bit of damage. How?
Use fusion to get a persona with dormina (make enemies sleep) sleep boost (increases the chances of sleep) and ailment boost (increase all ailment chances).
Just use dormina on him and while sleeping, boost attack. Debuff enemy defense. Then throw everything at him. Once he starts to wake up again. Just put him back to sleep. Even while being hit enemies stay asleep so that thing can be abused alot. Even against dire shadows and powerful shadows. Though it doesnt work on bosses.
I like how the Fake Thieves posed, Akane probably doesn’t know their personalities too well so she has them pose how she thinks they would
Fake Panther for instance is going a cat pose probably cause her attire, Fake Queen is flexing as she thinks she’s a strong fighter (she is) and Fake Noir
I actually have no idea how she came up with that pose for Noir when it’s more of a pose for Panther but whatever.
And Joker's pose is very similar to the HENSHIN pose of Kamen Rider Ichigo. Huh, neat.
I was so hyped but then it sunk because we didn't fight all the shadow phantom thieves 😞
Akane, ENOUGH!!!! STOP IT!!!!! I SAID STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Akane: MOON SHINE DOWN!
@@FloofyOneTorpheus "There was a time where I trusted you to deal with changing hearts"
this remind me of persona 3 fes facing minato
"Minato"
That's not his name but aight
I'd love to have seen Haru vs Shadow Haru just going ape crazy with the axe
No One:
Absolutely No one:
Not a Single soul:
Not even the tiniest Brain cell:
Not even the most Micro of Micro-organisms:
My Last Brain cells: I FOUND YOU, FAKER!
Another's last brain cells: Faker? I think you're the fake Joker around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha! You're not even good enough to be my shadow!
My only brain cell
last suprise with other instruments are so good its more then a banger now-
There's a Futaba?
Does that mean Futaba actually fought?
Or was she providing support for the fake phantom thieves?
They were probably seeing who could out-support the other
My guess is Wolf and Sophie took out cognitiv Oracle.
I was sorta hoping for 1v1 with everyone but thats fine
Actually, that'd be too much if you think about it
@@BitchChill or you have to choose 3 characters to fight their battle.
Or its could've been a request for each of the phantom thieves. Kinda like how you can re-fight bosses you already beat.
Honestly it would have been cool for Sophia and Zenkichi to fight Kasumi and Akechi
It would be cool, but it makes sense that they're not there. Akane never actually saw them. Still, it wouldve been cool to at least see a reference to Kasumi and Akechi in the game
@@nardopol0 yea that is a good point. Would have been rly cool to see them as cameo but oh well
As much as I love Zenkichi, Akechi would destroy him
@Michael Thomas. You aren't wrong. Zenkichi had only just gotten his Persona after all and Akechi was a bloodthirsty killer. Although the idea of Zenkichi's Fury vs Akechi's Call of Chaos is an interesting thought
The gang did zenkichi so dirty here by not telling him how beating a shadow works!...still got teary eyed though.
I wish they had held off on Last Surprise until this fight.
Fun but I hate that the other copycats are defeated offscreen.
i would happily fight a boss rush where you take on all of them back to back
I think that's what everyone wanted lol
I did this entire fight with only Arsene.
Was it difficult?
Hell yeah
Was it worth it?
Honestly it felt badass
Matching him move for move with only Arsene and using curse skills and regen passives along with lot of healing items.
Thought I wasn't the only one that did that it's so satisfying to kick your own ass like that wish they could have used personas to
I also did that but I never actually levelled up Arsene so *dear god* the fight took forever
@@bubalackgaming8892 oh Christ then you had a much harder fight than I, I made it a rule in each one to make sure I always carried the protags persona, which I know kinda defeats the purpose of switching out for each situation but I always felt bad ass with them.
Hell in persona 5 (the first one) when I reached yaldaboth I had Arsene at lvl 82 and I made sure to fight him with only Arsene as a testament to how strong Joker became. I experienced death many times but when I won it felt great
Epic
I still can't help but feel kinda disappointed that we couldn't fight the other fake Phantom thieves. That intro with Akane had me hyped up! But when it turned into a fight with just Shadow Joker, I felt like it was such a waste to make the other fake Phantom thieves.
I would have loved if you could still baton pass in this fight
Imagine baton passing to ryuji or something, and the enemy doing the same
I just think it would have been to fight ALL the copies
Okay I get that fighting the other fake thieves would have been awesome, doesnt change that this battle is the most epic battle I fought.
Joker: is that really what I look like?
Shadow Joker: you bet that sweet ass of yours~
Joker: Oh I could give *you* driving lessons
S Joker: I bet you could~
Ryuji: oh perfect, this is the way it all ends! Joker, flirting with himself, true love at last! Sorry about that, ladies
The girls, all drooling over the sight of two Jokers
Ann: absolutely no problem at all...
Instead of having an entire group of phantom thieves fighting each other, I kind of wish it was just Cognitive Joker who was the Jail Boss and the real Joker would fight one-on-one with him alone on behalf of his team. Would have been more epic.
Plus Joker is the only one who can pull of that color palette. The others just look ridiculous.
But Futaba kinda has those colors already, so her look's not jarring
Joker: *Holds shadow Joker by the collar*
Joker: I'm the one and only. Got it.
Shadow morgana best one no cap
They’re not actually shadows. They’re cognitive beings. ‘Cognitive Joker’ would be a better name for the video.
This game assumes the player never played Persona 5 or 5R so having a single Cognitive makes no sense considering it's never brought up again. On top of that they still look like Shadows, if it was a proper Cognitive then it'd be a proper mirror to Joker's appearance.
@@arachineatzeer7478 i mean the only cognition you fight in p5 is wakaba, also akane doesn't really know how exactly the phantom theives look like
@@arachineatzeer7478 0:54 Morgana literally says that they’re part of Akane’s cognition here.
@@raidev_ the robots in okumura's palace were cognition, so was Haru.
@@raidev_ If she sculpted their bodies as perfectly as the Metaverse did, then she probably does know. Don't ask me how she knows.
The first beat of I’ll face myself starts at the very beginning of the fight
To be honest I kinda avoided using Personas in this fight it just didn’t feel right
The thing is you always equip a persona and its stat but i know what you. Cognitive joker fights with no persona.
@@SylDragonia thats normal since Akane has no concept of Personas
Joker: You look familiar!
Shadow Joker: As do you!
Joker: HYAAAA!
Shadow Joker: RAAAAH!
I have to admit this fight was hard but Really awesome!
RW:the odd thing about this fight is that i can easily compare it to MMPR in the episode
“Mutant Rangers” where they have to fight evil counterparts of themselves or even from Power Rangers Wild Force too
I like to headcannon that our joker and akane joker are perfect equals so they’re at wits end until our jokers pulls off one big move to get akanes fake
Does make you wonder what their real Shadows would look like, if they were forced to confront them Persona 4 style.
Ryuji:We don't lose against phonies
Me on screen : We? You didn't do anything
They did. They took out there fakes like Joker took out his. Did you not pay attention?
why the hell did the Thieves not tell Zenkichi about shadows dissipating before he had a mental breakdown thinking his daughter is dead
How can I defeat Shadow Joker because I still kept getting my ass kicked so many times
a bit late but a good tactic is the keep your distance from fake joker and use your gun attack which shouldn't cost any bullets. Your special gun attack allows you to phantom dash up close and get some good hits in. Also anytime fake joker is not attacking is the only time he's able to be hit so you can run up to him, hit him a couple of times, and dash away. Only use your persona's for stat buff's and healing.
Alright sounds good
I'm pretty sure they were just cognitive imposters.
Now I’m confused. This is a jail right and not a palace? How could a cognitive being be made in a jail? I thought only palaces can have cognitive versions of people
@@Yurihyuga766 Well other than the layout and goal, the difference is minimal.
@@Yurihyuga766 let’s say jails are to hold the monarch captive by making them forget their trauma it’s still the meta verse so whatever they think as the place will transform into a different jail because of their cognition
@@WAyuso34 I see. That makes a lot of sense now.
sus
Okay but hear me out, if Futaba is supporting you, then who’s fighter her lookalike?
maybe Zenkichi or her phantom is supporting her team as well. She disappeared after the PT are done with their respective opponent and rain her with bullets right after.... Don't know.
I wish for this fight you got to use both sophie and zenkichi since they both don’t have a shadow to fight and would likely acknowledge shadow joker as a strong threat
The hell shadow futaba gonna do?😂
Anyone else notice the Xbox buttons?
Yea he is playing pc using an Xbox controller
@@Irish_Enderman oh, ok. I am playing on PS4, so I didn’t know that was possible. Thank you.
@@godofgames1781 Yea I play on switch
Easy win with Arahabaki.
I didn’t even think of using him… but yes! Definitely. Can’t believe I forgot that Arahabaki would literally take no damage!!!
I loved this battle the only problem was your personas are basically worthless
Eh they provide healing. That helps.
It's not shadow but it's Cognition created by Akane
Aww why didn’t they name Shadow Joker as “My Dear Joker” too like what they did in the Jp version
I’m struggling a lot with this fight any tips?
I got the shadow down to a sliver of HP but I died
Idk if you're still stuck or progressed, but I got a few tips based on my experience:
1.) Persona's may inflict ailments, but your opponent is not weak to any of the damage types, so conserve and use your Persona's wisely.
2.) Lock on to your target and watch his attacks. If he shoots, close the gap and get your hits in. If he lunges at you and starts his attack sequence (or combo), interrupt his attacks by shooting him and go ham after a follow up attack.
3.) Watch your surroundings, he can also do a phantom dash and attack from the poles, so keep your eyes on him and the poles.
That's about it, hope it helps
Change the difficulty to easy and mash all buttons. Fuck this fight.
How does Akane know they use weapons if no one has ever seen them in action?
A bit late, but I would assume it was more her Shadow itself creating the PT's and their weapons rather than the real one, since only the Shadow has seen them fighting. But that has many contradictions so I don't really know.
Clearly Akane plays a lot of Smash Bros
Hod I wish this fight was multi stage were you switch characters
The fuck were Zenkichi and Sophia doing
They did say what they where doing in the game.
@@sofaris576 wut was it?
@@Lord_Helix Those 2 backed up the other Thives in there fights against there cognitiv fakes.
How would futaba vs shadow futaba fight?
Wolf and Sophie had no cognitiv counterparts to deal with so they where free to kick the ass of cognitiv Oracle.
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Rivers in the desert shoulda played
I just saw the Xbox buttons... they could just make an Xbox port! What, is there no contract allowing it!? Details, dammit!
Steam version + Xbox controller.
@@CGrascal A port is still not out of the question if they have assets for an Xbox controller.
@@raezor6941 I mean a Persona game never released on Xbox before.
@@OmarStar803 Yet the first Persona game on Nintendo Switch? 🤔
@@raezor6941 Is Nintendo Switch an Xbox? Lol
They were BLack Lol🤣🤣
This game isn't really all that compared to hyrule warriors age of calamity it needs some improvements
Well it did come out way before Hyrule Warriors. Remember this came out back in early 2020 in Japan
Bruh, this game was an actual game that broke free from the musuo formula. Hyrule warriors AoC did NOT do that.
@@disgaealikerasapOG but strikers flopped in japan
@@boomprower
Wait what. It’s a successful launch, it didn’t flop in Japan lmao. It sold already a 162,410 copies on it’s first week in Japan. That’s already a fucking huge success on Japan standards.
@@disgaealikerasapOG man I can’t wait to play Hyrule Warriors Alexandra Ocasio Cortez