ONLY Top Down Mixing! You Won't Believe the Results!

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  • Joel Wanasek mixes and entire song with just top down mixing and faders.
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    I’m Joel Wanasek, a mixer who’s worked with artists like Machine Head, Ellise, Rain City Drive, Attila, Chad Tepper, Scott Stapp, Vinyl Theater, and so many more. I’m also a founder of Nail The Mix, the world’s best online music production school for rock & metal producers.

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  • @joelwanasekurm
    @joelwanasekurm  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LEARN TO MIX: nailthemix.com/

  • @okaight7248
    @okaight7248 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Love these 30 minute series, the track came together real quick. Helps a lot that it sounds like it was tracked really really well too

  • @samz9121
    @samz9121 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is the song that I gravitated towards when I joined Portflio Builder.
    Had some fun with this over the course of half a day's work in total over 3 days.

  • @sleepisbutadream
    @sleepisbutadream 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great tutorial, it definitely does not hurt the recording itself was so good to begin with! I don’t have this type separation and clarity where I record, not a great room though so I’m sure that doesn’t help! I’ll be trying some of this out for sure, 👌🏻 great stuff

    • @_leivo
      @_leivo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not just the recording, the arrangement is well done and that helps so much!

  • @dougleydorite
    @dougleydorite 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Looking forward to see the video on why you don’t like top down mixing. In the Will Putney NTM, he says that he doesn’t like it because everything ends up sounding the same

  • @AlexeySolovievMusic
    @AlexeySolovievMusic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wonderful video Joel! Learning much from this one. Thank you so much! Please do more of these.

  • @_thaaatguy
    @_thaaatguy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was a cool little mix, man. I'm curious as to why you stopped using top down and why you're against it now. Hope to see more videos like this on your channel.

    • @joelwanasekurm
      @joelwanasekurm  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’ll make a video about it. Too much to explain in a comment.

  • @necroticpoison
    @necroticpoison 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Inspiring seeing how good you made the depth (and song in general) with clip + 2b. And you don't need finicky (or any lmao) plugin moves on individual tracks to get it to there (that base level of good), just the skills

  • @frantiseksvarc1672
    @frantiseksvarc1672 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is super cool demonstration of the concept.

  • @chaselunatic
    @chaselunatic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video! Quick but useful and informative! Saw it just in time to get that Michelangelo EQ plugin on the last day of the sale!

    • @joelwanasekurm
      @joelwanasekurm  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love that plugin. It’s sick.

  • @machineagevoodoo2106
    @machineagevoodoo2106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's just one of those things where I'd say, it totally depends on the sources, because if they aren't properly compressed and EQ'd going in, one can forget about this approach pretty quickly haha

  • @machineagevoodoo2106
    @machineagevoodoo2106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice videos, good job. I'd be nice if you talk in a video about your path to choosing to work with Cubase, I think it would be interesting to many people. Probably unusual in your click but I totally get it as I'm a happy Cubase user myself

  • @1siriuswolf
    @1siriuswolf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clip gain is a lost art.. brilliant ear bro!

  • @LuckyPkerz
    @LuckyPkerz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joel! Love the vids, been following you for some years now. I know this isn't related to the topic, but I'm building a pc since my 10yr old one decided to die out on me recently. Mind sharing your pc specs? CPU, motherboard, ram, as much as you can?

    • @joelwanasekurm
      @joelwanasekurm  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t know much about pc specs.

    • @MartinNephilim
      @MartinNephilim 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Essentials for PC is a good CPU, more than 4 cores, so 8 or at least 6 would be decent, more is better.
      At least 16 Gigs of Ram, more is also better.
      A good power supply but the Wattage amount would depend of the other components.
      The other components are where you could go for more budget options, but be sure to choose a motherboard that would have enough inputs for your audio gear that you have. Or if you want to future proof it.
      Depending on your workflow I would also recommend any Mac or Macbook even the 13” post M1 generation. Pricey but incredible and compact.

    • @LuckyPkerz
      @LuckyPkerz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MartinNephilim Thanks dude

  • @samuelevans5405
    @samuelevans5405 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay so if your not allowed to eq and compress and such is nolly doing like hybrid mixing?

    • @Krisskruus
      @Krisskruus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That was my first question too.. I've always understood top down mixing to be where you apply a bunch of mix bus stuff first and then start mixing everything else. First time I've heard that you don't touch anything else..

    • @samuelevans5405
      @samuelevans5405 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Krisskruus that was my understanding too, like you mix into deliberately staged settings like a low freq boost and top end sheen, as well as mastering processes. And then that adjusts the way you perceive the mix from the start kinda thing...

    • @Krisskruus
      @Krisskruus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I can't imagine someone really commercially mixing only using the mix bus and faders 😅.

  • @MartinvonBargen
    @MartinvonBargen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another wonderful video Joel and that Michelangelo EQ is something else. Thanks for sharing 🤘🤘

    • @joelwanasekurm
      @joelwanasekurm  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @MartinvonBargen
      @MartinvonBargen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joelwanasekurm Cheers Joel. Gonna give that EQ a shot when I've got the funds. Is it based on unique hardware of theirs, or did they emulate an older analogue EQ?

  • @Bcwilderness
    @Bcwilderness 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    open topdown to the master is the way, pushing the bulls through the gate lol

  • @stevedoesnt
    @stevedoesnt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still blows my mind that this is all happening on ns10s. There’s so much low end information.

    • @joelwanasekurm
      @joelwanasekurm  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’m actually mixing on Amphion one 18s. My 10s are on the floor. Need to hook ‘em up! Thanks for the reminder.

  • @j-katinfusino4930
    @j-katinfusino4930 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this demo. Really awesome. I am curious why you chose to top down when you are currently against it though.

    • @joelwanasekurm
      @joelwanasekurm  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Because a lot of people love it. It’s a very valid mixing technique that works for many people.

    • @PereRevert
      @PereRevert 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      didn't know Joel was against this... as far as I know he mixes/masters with the master bus processing already in, but of course using way more plugins on the individual channels and way more sends and FX... or I'm wrong Joel?

  • @albertoluciani8705
    @albertoluciani8705 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what song is this? quite diggin it

    • @joelwanasekurm
      @joelwanasekurm  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rival - Odds. You can get the files at nailthemix.com in portfolio builder

  • @officialWWM
    @officialWWM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do top down mixing all the time!

  • @xicoamc
    @xicoamc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cubase is great!

    • @joelwanasekurm
      @joelwanasekurm  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Best daw imo

    • @snowandcoal
      @snowandcoal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Reaper is greater!

  • @madsonit
    @madsonit 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dangerous sport this mixing technique. Especially if you are at the beginning with your mixing knowledge. Mixing with such aggressive mix bus processing can lead you to doing too much and not enough at the same time. For example, if you limit everything and you have to drive your kick harder, you might need to go way harder that you would normally do just because the mix bus processing is squashing everything. It could work if you know what you are doing, but still can't see the benefits honestly. Oh, one more thing, your mix bus chain makes everything louder. Louder is always perceived as sounding better. If you really want to hear what your mix bus is doing, level match it to before the processing. Advice for beginners: individual processing is done on individual tracks, not on the mix bus. Mix bus is always the last step before mastering.

  • @kadiummusic
    @kadiummusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good, well done. Now do it bottom up, DON'T put anything on the mixbus until you've got the best mix you can without it. Then add any mixbus processing you think the track needs. Now do another video allowing us to hear the two results. Then we can all critique the results. I haven't seen anybody who advocates 'top down' do this and yet it's the only way of coming to an educated view on which way sounds best. We know top down is quicker but that's totally irrelevant. It's the sound that matters. Surely? 🤔